Speaker 1: Today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we're talking the art
Speaker 1: of the offense. What is the next evolution of this
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury offense.
Speaker 2: We talked about that today.
Speaker 1: What is the role for Jayden and Debo and how
Speaker 1: do they help the offense grow? And can we still
Speaker 1: be the best team on fourth down in NFL history?
Speaker 3: You bet? We can't bet you.
Speaker 2: Right then, we got the Great American Bakeoff? Whom round
Speaker 2: to be an American? After this bakeoff, I'll tell you
Speaker 2: that right now? It all starts right now. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Santana Moss and Fred Smoot
Speaker 1: and Happy fourth of July. A couple of days on
Speaker 1: the road, but we're not going to see it till after,
Speaker 1: So happy fourth of July.
Speaker 3: Fred.
Speaker 1: I am ass Tannah, but I think I think Tanna's
Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit more subdued. Let's
Speaker 1: start with Fred. Fourth of July plans. Yes, anything on
Speaker 1: the dock end.
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to head down to New Oilers
Speaker 4: and enjoy the Essence Festival as always. N What I'm
Speaker 4: saying is on the fourth of July. You know it's
Speaker 4: no better place to be the new Oil. Last year,
Speaker 4: I did go last So this why I got to
Speaker 4: go this year. With the heat going on. New Orleans
Speaker 4: got the best food in America. Dare anybody that challenged
Speaker 4: me on that one?
Speaker 2: Right there?
Speaker 3: Then I get to go to all the concerts that
Speaker 3: I want to go to. I might be in there
Speaker 3: parts of the bees and it no matter what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna be it.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is I'm gonna be in New Orleans.
Speaker 4: What about you, Logan, where are you gonna be?
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be up up in Cape Cod. I've
Speaker 2: been sam Tucket.
Speaker 3: Take Cod's vacation to you. It's so it's so funny
Speaker 3: to me how you like I'm going to vacation. But
Speaker 3: I'm going north.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some nice beaches up there. Now, nice
Speaker 1: run It's time here, right, big sharks. Sure, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you nice beaches, Big Sharks.
Speaker 5: Tell what about you for? I probably be in Miami
Speaker 5: with the kids. You know, I normally we used to
Speaker 5: do it big when I was playing big for the
Speaker 5: July party. I'm always doing I always buy like five
Speaker 5: thousand worth of fireworks and like to block.
Speaker 4: Up just say five thousand just a Toyota for the fireworks.
Speaker 3: So, I mean yeah, so, I mean my kids look
Speaker 3: forward to.
Speaker 2: So is that like a truck full of fireworks.
Speaker 5: Your whole You might not even con fit in the car? Yeah,
Speaker 5: like it normally be just like riding on the wheelwell,
Speaker 5: coming home. What it's like about.
Speaker 3: I can see twna with a light in his hands.
Speaker 2: You got someone else?
Speaker 5: Well before I used to do it because it was
Speaker 5: fun for me. Now I'm the older guy, like, huh,
Speaker 5: save you.
Speaker 3: I don't like that. Make sure you run back quick.
Speaker 3: I can see him lighting and taking out taking.
Speaker 2: Out running a fireworks not illegal in Florida, I mean yeah,
Speaker 2: guess Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say, like that sound fireworks?
Speaker 2: Illgal.
Speaker 3: So that's when I grew up.
Speaker 2: I grew up in l A. So fireworks because there's
Speaker 2: some worry about wildfires, oh.
Speaker 5: Man, because it's so dry, y'all never have fireworks.
Speaker 2: I mean, people will do it, but like they are
Speaker 2: very like they have helicopters.
Speaker 3: Out they do it on the water and stuff.
Speaker 5: They will, but like probably best to do it on
Speaker 5: the water, getting it away from.
Speaker 1: But they get so freaked out about the fires helicopters patrolling,
Speaker 1: they'll come.
Speaker 3: To that, yeah, because I never thought talk about it
Speaker 3: about those.
Speaker 1: Fires just happened, man like, like that's like one little
Speaker 1: spark the whole, you know what I mean. Like it's
Speaker 1: crazy out there, Like I remember.
Speaker 3: Going that everywhere in California, or is just in California
Speaker 3: winter it is.
Speaker 1: It is more damp usually, but again they've had a
Speaker 1: couple of dry seasons and big fires up there too,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's time. I remember doing this is
Speaker 1: a little side here, but I remember having practice in
Speaker 1: high school and being outside and it's like it looks
Speaker 1: like it's raining outside. It's perfectly blacked out, but and
Speaker 1: it's raining ash Like you'd be outside and it looks
Speaker 1: like it's snowing, it would be ash yeah, from fire
Speaker 1: from a fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See that's why I chose not to ever live in California.
Speaker 4: I like green states, Like I like my water to
Speaker 4: be in abundance. By the way, congratulations of California and Nevada,
Speaker 4: like meat is fool like had Yeah, I had a
Speaker 4: record rainfall down there.
Speaker 3: Congratulations like this, dude, No, I like normal. I like
Speaker 3: water to be abundant.
Speaker 2: Like it like it is like it's raining all.
Speaker 4: Just like I went to wind Chester the other day,
Speaker 4: and when you look at the mountains on the East coast,
Speaker 4: they are green mounts.
Speaker 3: They are covered with trees, covered with vegetation.
Speaker 4: You look at West Coast mountains, they got pure rock,
Speaker 4: dry without greenery.
Speaker 3: So I'm about the greenery.
Speaker 1: I wants to get more elevation. Anyway, that we're getting sidetracked.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so fourth of July, be safe, have fun.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good time friends obviously time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, barbecue it works, man, listen, I love some good barbecue.
Speaker 3: Do you cook her?
Speaker 2: Do you have some else? Cook?
Speaker 3: No? I cook? Come on, man, I get down and dirty.
Speaker 2: And the speaking of cook rd, we've got to I
Speaker 2: cannot wait.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got Anna coming back to defend her
Speaker 1: crown and the bakeoff, the American.
Speaker 3: Bakeoff, and I take you down twice, that's all.
Speaker 4: This would be the third time you lost her consecutive.
Speaker 4: The second time I lost to her. I told you
Speaker 4: what happened. It was because of Jack Dans.
Speaker 2: But you lost I mean Jack, I I respect because
Speaker 2: that's why I'm said her.
Speaker 3: Give Jack Dames a big up. But now you now
Speaker 3: you blame me. I got to blame he took me down.
Speaker 3: No I have. I have set up some dishes today
Speaker 3: to take Anna down.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well she she was very confident.
Speaker 4: You ready guess what confidence is needed by all people.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, like the animosity, like I always think
Speaker 1: of baking as this wholesome thing. When the kids, your
Speaker 1: grandmother and I come in and Zach, Shelby and Anna
Speaker 1: are at Fred's head talking about this bakeup.
Speaker 5: You know Fred Fred called that because Fred doesn't let
Speaker 5: it day go by without getting on them about something.
Speaker 5: We don't even see Zach no more because of what
Speaker 5: him and Zach Donna went through the bakeoffs. So you
Speaker 5: heard like at one point I got to the point like,
Speaker 5: hey that work.
Speaker 3: Did you just say screw this?
Speaker 1: I will say the Zach's credit that he came in
Speaker 1: today and was like, hey, I want to do banana pudding,
Speaker 1: which is Fred's signature dish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hell, hey, hi, you know what?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: He was like big Zach Salby, he's been working out
Speaker 4: in shape.
Speaker 3: But you remind me of Vanda holy Field when Tyson bid.
Speaker 5: So you mean he actually won, but he lost.
Speaker 3: I speach your out right on the draft. This out
Speaker 3: this one all right, Zach Sam.
Speaker 2: So that's coming up in a little bit, so let's
Speaker 2: make sure we stay tuned for that. Now.
Speaker 1: I gotta do a little bit of administrative working. We
Speaker 1: got our mekea mail bag coming up right. If you've
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Speaker 3: I think they need to do air of tales about me.
Speaker 3: You said it every time. Well, why won't they do one? Dan?
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 3: I guess?
Speaker 1: I mean, but Hannah, do one about Fred? Jason is
Speaker 1: not Jason just said, what will we do it about?
Speaker 3: We can do about his draft. We can do it
Speaker 3: while he failed in it.
Speaker 4: You're doing about just pieces and bits of information about
Speaker 4: the pah. Yeah, you're doing about all the players I'm
Speaker 4: connected to doing about the teammates.
Speaker 3: And how about you doing to the fact that I
Speaker 3: called coach gils Back. I knew I knew that was
Speaker 3: gonna knew it.
Speaker 6: I knew it Fred has Okay for those of you, yeah,
Speaker 6: it should be it should be about calling them give
Speaker 6: us a comeback, and also called and gifts so you
Speaker 6: could come back.
Speaker 4: I don't like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jason, you have to like.
Speaker 5: We can do a perfect Hall's Tale. We can go
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Speaker 4: The last.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, spilling water.
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Speaker 2: All right, now let's get into something that I'm excited
Speaker 2: to talk about. Talk about the defense last episode whatever it's.
Speaker 4: That sounds about right with these officsive GUIDs, listen, outfits.
Speaker 4: Is needed, appreciated and it's sexy defense.
Speaker 2: It's it's appreciated. It's the thing.
Speaker 3: We can win a game and we go out there.
Speaker 3: Now we can score it too.
Speaker 5: It's not we're not it's not likely you can stop
Speaker 5: a few school it's not likely.
Speaker 1: So we're talking the art of offense. And so I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna start just kind of explaining Cliff Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's man. I got a little Fred going on Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's system and like his philosophy on the offense, and
Speaker 1: so I guess I'll like get up here and start
Speaker 1: it out real quick.
Speaker 2: So everyone thinks, oh, Cliff's an arraid guy. Nice. I
Speaker 2: will tell you right now.
Speaker 3: I know he's that.
Speaker 1: There are elements of air raid. But there are elements
Speaker 1: of air raid in every offense, in the.
Speaker 3: Least say elements of everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I would say is like, so think
Speaker 1: of air raids like, oh, we're gonna spread you out,
Speaker 1: We're going to try and find matchups. We're going to
Speaker 1: try and get your worst coverage player on a good
Speaker 1: route runner. To me, that's just good football. That's just
Speaker 1: good football philosophy. And so he has now applied that principle,
Speaker 1: which is just good offense to the entire thing. So
Speaker 1: they were in twelve personnel bunch last year, which is
Speaker 1: two tight ends, which is not a thing in the
Speaker 1: air raid. They were in thirteen a bunch last that year.
Speaker 1: They were in twenty one, which is two backs a
Speaker 1: lot last year. So I know people say air raid,
Speaker 1: I see a guy. Honestly, quite frankly, that is more
Speaker 1: similar to what Kyle does to what Sean does in
Speaker 1: terms of offensive philosophy. So it's like, we're going to
Speaker 1: try to find ways based on formation to present similar
Speaker 1: looks and run similar plays off those looks. We're gonna
Speaker 1: mess with our spacing and our splits to make it
Speaker 1: hard for you to cover the horizontal grass on the
Speaker 1: field and create good throwing windows just based on alignment,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna have a very diverse, creative run
Speaker 1: game where we're gonna have one or two runs that
Speaker 1: we really like, and then we're gonna have a bunch
Speaker 1: of things to insulate those runs.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think at its basis, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: it is. It's just a good offensive football.
Speaker 3: I think it's similar to this.
Speaker 4: If I'm free from Toyota and I say a Toyota's
Speaker 4: and I moved to another company and say a cars,
Speaker 4: You're still gonna look at me as free from Toyota.
Speaker 3: You'll never just say I'm a car sales This.
Speaker 2: This is a weird analogy, but I like what you're
Speaker 2: going with. Keep going.
Speaker 4: You won't generally just say I say a car. You're
Speaker 4: gonna say I say a Pacific car. But I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: I work for Dodge. Now you won't just say no,
Speaker 4: you got no. And I think that's what he gets, right,
Speaker 4: because I've been known as this this air raid guy
Speaker 4: my whole life. Like when I do say I'm gonna
Speaker 4: miss these things together, y'all still just say.
Speaker 3: I work for Toyota.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when people are like, oh, like
Speaker 2: Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, and Mike McDaniels are all West
Speaker 2: Coast guys. That's true, but they all they all got
Speaker 2: their own it looks different. Right, It's like they've created
Speaker 2: their own vein.
Speaker 4: Because McDaniels is more motion to me, where McVeigh likes
Speaker 4: to run, he is out of the formation that exists, right,
Speaker 4: He likes to run downhill a little bit more. McDaniel's
Speaker 4: more perimeter. Kyle again, was the guy looks more.
Speaker 3: Like McConnell and in Minnesota to me is more spread.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but there are principles that you can see.
Speaker 1: And I think like that's why I say like there
Speaker 1: are spread principles here. There are principles. Yeah, but I'd
Speaker 1: say on the whole, you're looking at offense, that's an
Speaker 1: NFL office.
Speaker 3: You're looking at a guy too.
Speaker 5: Also, you know, Fred pointed it out well by talking
Speaker 5: about just what they gonna always know you as from
Speaker 5: where you come from. You look at his offense, he
Speaker 5: still has some of those similarities of an a ra,
Speaker 5: but he has more of a bat He has more
Speaker 5: of a balance approach, like he runs the ball way
Speaker 5: more than people give him, you see. And we talked
Speaker 5: about that at NASEN when we brought him in last year.
Speaker 5: That's all we talked about before we watched these guys play.
Speaker 5: I don't forget about what he did over there in
Speaker 5: Arizona run game, he stood out. So I think he
Speaker 5: has some of the similarities of what we saw. But
Speaker 5: I think also when you look at the difference down
Speaker 5: of play from quarterback, it changes he had. He knows
Speaker 5: how to doubt, he knows how to adapt to who
Speaker 5: he has as QB. And that's what stands out the
Speaker 5: most about him. He's he has adaptability to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what I have at quarterback and we could do.
Speaker 3: More of this. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think, Tanna, I'm so glad you brought that
Speaker 1: up because, like the next question on here is like
Speaker 1: strength and weaknesses of this style, right of his style,
Speaker 1: and Tanna, you hit the nail on the head, like
Speaker 1: his style is reflective of the personnel who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: And so last year, quarterback was a big factor. Offensive
Speaker 1: line was a big factory. Skips and guys were a
Speaker 1: big factor. So if you look at last year's offense,
Speaker 1: to me, I think you saw an offense that ran
Speaker 1: the ball, ran the ball with the quarterback very effectively
Speaker 1: and as a way to insulate their runs, had a
Speaker 1: lot of RPO so run pass option, and a lot
Speaker 1: of quick game that was kind of the foundational skeleton
Speaker 1: of the offense until you push you downfield, until you
Speaker 1: push it down the field right, And so that that
Speaker 1: was the backbone of it. And when you look at
Speaker 1: those that style of offense, it's very low average death
Speaker 1: of target, can't get the ball vertically. It kind of
Speaker 1: puts a ceiling on what you can be and I
Speaker 1: think that's that is a weakness, but they did it
Speaker 1: so well it became a strength. And I do think
Speaker 1: that's something that when we get into things that have
Speaker 1: to change, that'll have to change. But to me, that's
Speaker 1: not reflective of King of Cliff's system. That's a reflection
Speaker 1: of who they had available personnel. This was all personnel base.
Speaker 4: Like he go to think about a coordinator, I am
Speaker 4: no matter what my vision is and what my type
Speaker 4: of scheme is, I am a prisoner to the talent
Speaker 4: that I have. I have to do things accordingly. And
Speaker 4: if you look at this offense, we reinforced the offensive life,
Speaker 4: We added to the backfield, we added to the wide
Speaker 4: receiving corps. The quarterback is a year older, he won't
Speaker 4: have those deficiencies that he had last year. He will
Speaker 4: be able to call this year, to me, we gonna
Speaker 4: really see what his offense he wants it.
Speaker 3: To look like.
Speaker 4: Like I think this year he gonna say I got
Speaker 4: to lift tackle that I don't need to keep a
Speaker 4: tighty for. I got this, I got this, I understand now.
Speaker 4: Now I can call whatever play I want in a situation.
Speaker 4: He didn't have that last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think even if you go back to
Speaker 1: air raid, like one of the things that you want
Speaker 1: to do an air raid is get as many eligibles
Speaker 1: out as you can.
Speaker 2: You want to get him out. You want to stress
Speaker 2: the defense, you want to find matchups.
Speaker 1: Last year he couldn't do that right, And I think
Speaker 1: he was acutely aware, and I think really quite honestly
Speaker 1: a masterclass. And now to inslet your offensive line, yeah,
Speaker 1: like we're going to run the football when we aren't
Speaker 1: drop back situations. We're going to have chip plans, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have slide plans to make sure that they're not
Speaker 1: having to.
Speaker 2: Do all that thing, which again limits the offensive scope.
Speaker 1: So if I was going to be critical, I'd say, oh,
Speaker 1: I wish he would have got more eligibles into the route.
Speaker 2: But that's not that's him.
Speaker 1: Coaching around talent, Yeah, a talent right like, and I
Speaker 1: think that offensive line last year played well.
Speaker 2: I think they were helped by the way he called games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so this year I expect that to be
Speaker 1: different because I think you can put those guys in
Speaker 1: more of an island type situation, yeah, and find better matchups.
Speaker 4: No, And I think he's going to take him to
Speaker 4: the peak of his play call. And it also takes
Speaker 4: JD five to a whole another level because now where
Speaker 4: we was hesitant to pass the ball last year, now
Speaker 4: we're gonna be full fledgs. Just go get it done.
Speaker 5: And especially to being a year two of it, I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody gets the chance to now come in with a
Speaker 5: little more seasoning when it comes offense. You know, you
Speaker 5: got guys not thinking thinking less, and then you have
Speaker 5: you have you have guys that's familiar with what you
Speaker 5: have at QB and knowing that. Okay, offensive line wise, well,
Speaker 5: I mean they did a tremendous job at it last year,
Speaker 5: but they just know how to protect them.
Speaker 3: How long I need to be with it.
Speaker 5: He's getting the bough at his hand quicker than some
Speaker 5: of the best thumb in this league. So you know,
Speaker 5: I mean this guy getting this thing out. So we
Speaker 5: just got to do our job because the ball gonna
Speaker 5: get he get rid of the football fast and so like.
Speaker 1: Again, even like with some of these restrictions, like they
Speaker 1: were excellent. There were seventh in the NFL in total offense.
Speaker 1: They are three and sixty nine yards per game. They
Speaker 1: were third in the NFL in rushing with one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty four yards per game. Again, a lot of
Speaker 1: that's driven by Jaydon Davis or what he does, but
Speaker 1: I think that's it shows it's fat of a team,
Speaker 1: shows a reflection. Right fifth in the NFL. And points
Speaker 1: per game. Again, you got to score points as an
Speaker 1: offense and first the NFL on fourth down. So I
Speaker 1: look at those metrics and I say, man, a lot
Speaker 1: of that seems repeatable. But like much like we talked
Speaker 1: about with the defense, one of the things that I
Speaker 1: think is excellent about this is that they have taken
Speaker 1: steps to ensure against the regression. And so I know,
Speaker 1: I say regression a lot. So think about go back
Speaker 1: to your stats class. You got all these data points
Speaker 1: clustered up. You know, we're like a belch, a belt
Speaker 1: bell or what does that think with the parabola inverted
Speaker 1: bell or whatever that's called belt. Right, you get all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in the middle, right, and then
Speaker 1: you get the outliers, right, and so right now, a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff in the offense is outlier.
Speaker 2: They were really good. They were third, they were fourth,
Speaker 2: they were first and fourth down conversion. So a lot
Speaker 2: of that stuff is going to regress to the mean,
Speaker 2: regress to the average. So how do we protect that stuff?
Speaker 1: Shoot, we go get better on the offensive line, right,
Speaker 1: and so we make sure that we do remain third
Speaker 1: in rushing rushing yards for name, right, because now instead
Speaker 1: of having to run the football a ton, get super
Speaker 1: creative with the scheme. Now we got a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that can win.
Speaker 4: One on once and we don't have to lean on
Speaker 4: a quarterback for the rush of yours. Now you reinforce
Speaker 4: the line to running back and take that out of him.
Speaker 4: And that's more effective when you run with the running
Speaker 4: back instead of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And again, one of the things last year I thought
Speaker 1: Cliff did a like quite literally a masterful job of
Speaker 1: was making sure they were not in third long. So, hey,
Speaker 1: if it's first, and if it's second and ten, like,
Speaker 1: what's my call to get me to and four, and
Speaker 1: Jane did a great job making decisions, but Cliff did
Speaker 1: an excellent job managing that. And so not only does
Speaker 1: that help you on third down conversion percentage, which they
Speaker 1: were third in the NFL, but also helps you on
Speaker 1: fourth down conversion percentage. Right, So I look at this
Speaker 1: and I say, like, he did a great job calling that,
Speaker 1: But if we can be better rushing the ball on
Speaker 1: first down and we're in third and seven, now that
Speaker 1: third and seven or that second and seven can be
Speaker 1: a shot play, you'll be a down the field extension, right,
Speaker 1: and we can rely on Jane Danis makeup. But that
Speaker 1: all stems from making good additions on the offensive line.
Speaker 4: I think the only person they might take a regression back.
Speaker 3: And this has nothing to do with talent.
Speaker 4: It has to do with opportunity and the fact that
Speaker 4: we got a better officers line and we might run
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit more. We depended on Zach
Speaker 4: kertz Oh last year. You know how many times he
Speaker 4: built us out of trouble.
Speaker 2: We looked at this up a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: He for twenty four in the postseason, but other sixty
Speaker 1: six catches in the season. So the postseason were different animals.
Speaker 1: Of his sixty six catches, forty three of them were
Speaker 1: for first hours down. That's what I'm telling that's crazy.
Speaker 3: But you catch half of those balls, he's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got the thing too, I mean, and I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm talking to a tight end former tight end. You
Speaker 5: guys are known to be the safety net for any quarterback,
Speaker 5: whether he's a young quarterback or old. So when Jayden
Speaker 5: realized what he had in him, because it took time,
Speaker 5: and Jayden felled everybody out, he was giving the ball
Speaker 5: around to any and everybody. And then so you give
Speaker 5: a lot of credit to Cliff because he made things
Speaker 5: easier with the slip screens and.
Speaker 3: Just putting guys and situations where I ain't got him.
Speaker 5: Act jating to go out there and stretch the ball
Speaker 5: or get rid of this ball downfield when I can't,
Speaker 5: just put it in the playmaker's hand and let him,
Speaker 5: you know, do things with it. When you notice that, man,
Speaker 5: I got a guy that's still capable of getting open,
Speaker 5: putting his foot in the ground and having separation, that's
Speaker 5: when everything took off. And it was round week two
Speaker 5: when you saw, you know, Earth's go out there and
Speaker 5: do what he did against the Giants and all that stuff,
Speaker 5: and just have a phenomenal, you know game. And I
Speaker 5: think one of those passes we talked about the last week,
Speaker 5: when he took the ball back from the guy like
Speaker 5: he showed then like I'm a reliable target still at
Speaker 5: this age, so went in doubt, throw it to me.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie. It's a defensive player.
Speaker 2: I just was.
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to keep up with it. I was
Speaker 4: just watching the games, and I'm like back louding in
Speaker 4: my head, like hu I was on defense. I just
Speaker 4: try to stop Zach Erg like that'll be my number
Speaker 4: one thing, not Terry and I love Tyrany to deal.
Speaker 5: But when we had those two tight end sets, having
Speaker 5: a young senate in the game, knowing what he had
Speaker 5: his potential, I guess teams too kind of look at
Speaker 5: it like, well, he's out here for a reason. So
Speaker 5: that's how you get a guy like exact erth's open
Speaker 5: knowing that, okay, this guy along in the two let's
Speaker 5: think about this young guy. But then I also you
Speaker 5: saw he had a different kind of role. He wasn't
Speaker 5: until a lot of those pass routes. But I think
Speaker 5: that's how you can hire guys like that.
Speaker 3: That's a lot. Sixty six catches in forty five of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, first downs, I touchdown Like it's crazy I had.
Speaker 5: I had a similar production two out and twelve. I
Speaker 5: was only coming in on third down and if not
Speaker 5: all it's a huge My catches was first down. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I had eight tugs that year.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's a defensive player, Like I am
Speaker 4: watching this.
Speaker 5: I told you, I told you he was playing. I
Speaker 5: don't want to get off topic, but I'm gonna be
Speaker 5: quick with it. And Trail Road we played cars together
Speaker 5: and down in Miami. He say, Tana, We told him, you, dudes,
Speaker 5: when eighty nine come in the game on third down
Speaker 5: the ball, don't think likely he getting the ball?
Speaker 3: And he say, we blinking you scoring on us? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's when you're playing with the Giants.
Speaker 3: So that's how Earth was for us.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: When every time I saw Arth's line up in one
Speaker 5: of those critical down situations, I'm like, man, throw the
Speaker 5: ball to Earth.
Speaker 3: He was getting open man.
Speaker 1: But I think that's a great example tan of the
Speaker 1: next point, which is that we talked about the offensive
Speaker 1: line their ability to be official on first time, but
Speaker 1: on third down one of the things that stuck out
Speaker 1: to me is they only had like one dude, two dudes,
Speaker 1: maybe Terry that could.
Speaker 2: Win versus Manda Man coverage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love the idea of them going out
Speaker 1: and getting some playmate in the.
Speaker 2: Samuels in the risk and getting Debo and get and again.
Speaker 1: Debo is a and I think Teddy did a great
Speaker 1: job of characterizing this. He's not like your prettiest wide receiver,
Speaker 1: but if you know how to use him, like run
Speaker 1: him on a slant or a choice or play bubble
Speaker 1: or a screen like, he can be pretty devastating. And
Speaker 1: I do think in the slot he can win in
Speaker 1: mand Man situations. So what you're doing is you're saying
Speaker 1: Terry can win, Zach can win. Here's Debo now that
Speaker 1: can win in Mandon Man coverage situations. And now who's
Speaker 1: that fourth.
Speaker 3: Shot with icing on the top.
Speaker 4: Because it's different between beating me and kitching a ball
Speaker 4: and beating me in kitching a ball and running.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a kitchen a runner or I can go
Speaker 5: a little further with it, And I'm glad you brought
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 3: You say, Okay, I got all these receivers.
Speaker 5: Why limit myself of keeping de boy at receiving when
Speaker 5: I can line him up as the other tight.
Speaker 3: End or tail back or tailback.
Speaker 2: Just find a good match and.
Speaker 3: Keep the matchups. Like I mean, we have in this.
Speaker 2: Way gonna beat you.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. So that's what he brings.
Speaker 5: He's we talk about swissarmon and I even know he's
Speaker 5: beyond that because he's one of those matchup guys where
Speaker 5: that you.
Speaker 3: Can't match him up with nobody.
Speaker 5: He can beat your corner, he can beat your line back,
Speaker 5: he can beat your safety, he can beat anybody on
Speaker 5: the field, and then he can run the ball.
Speaker 3: So you know what you think we've been doing it
Speaker 3: put in his belly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So I just feel like he's one of those guys
Speaker 5: that he gets open, he gets everybody else open because
Speaker 5: he's on the field.
Speaker 1: But I was just thinking about it, like it's such
Speaker 1: a good point. But I remember, you can go like
Speaker 1: eleven debo, So put eleven debot running back. For example,
Speaker 1: you got Zach, Why, ye got Terry's exorcy, right, you
Speaker 1: got whoever you want to slot, who you want to
Speaker 1: slot you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Who let go someone.
Speaker 1: On the perimeter right and all of a sudden, it's like, oh, shoot,
Speaker 1: there's three receivers out here for counting debo.
Speaker 2: But he's lined up at the back.
Speaker 1: So do we put a safety in the box to
Speaker 1: cover him because that's a mismatch him.
Speaker 2: Do we put a Do we put a linebacker on him?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Shoot that we don't like that either. How about we
Speaker 2: put a quarter on him? Then the linebacker's got to cover. No, No,
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 1: So I do think like one of the one of
Speaker 1: the things that another criticism had about this offense is
Speaker 1: like there weren't a lot of guys who could win
Speaker 1: in manae man coverage on dart down, and now you've
Speaker 1: got this piece when utilized correctly, and Cliff is so
Speaker 1: smart man. Already in OTA's and mini camp, we've seen
Speaker 1: them utilize them that way. We can't talk about it
Speaker 1: because like we can't keep the seekers round here, but
Speaker 1: I think that that is really exciting and cool. The
Speaker 1: other thing I want to just point out too, is
Speaker 1: like last year they were twenty fourth in explosive pass
Speaker 1: place right, which is not great. Yeah, And so when
Speaker 1: you say oh man, they're going on eighteen play drives,
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen play drives. Like that's again talk about
Speaker 1: regressing to the mean. Eventually, that's going to come back
Speaker 1: to average. But if we can find a way to
Speaker 1: become more efficient with our bost of pass plays, that
Speaker 1: means we don't have to go on these long drives,
Speaker 1: right we can. So I think a couple of things. One,
Speaker 1: they've got better on the offensive line, which I think
Speaker 1: increases the likelihood of an explosive run. Two, we've gotten
Speaker 1: more explosive playmakers in the past game, so that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, and again I watched every Debo cut
Speaker 1: up from twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. That
Speaker 1: dude will take a five yard end, Yeah, sixty to
Speaker 1: the house in the house, so bump me going on
Speaker 1: a sixty play or eleven play drive? Fifteen play drive?
Speaker 1: How about we go five players and I hit him
Speaker 1: on a little second.
Speaker 3: And five I receive. We got faster with Lane, we
Speaker 3: got big and stronger with Debo.
Speaker 4: We added to a group that needed reinforcement to hit.
Speaker 4: Let Terry have some help, and that's a group that
Speaker 4: can beat you. However, we need to beat you we
Speaker 4: have a guy for that. You got a guy for
Speaker 4: every situation.
Speaker 1: And it was and it was uh, you know, and
Speaker 1: obviously we don't know Noah Brown situation, but he was
Speaker 1: looking like a dude in yamp Mans.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's healthy. But again, like the.
Speaker 3: Amount of pass interferences got colls like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what skill you need? Be big? Yeah, Like no, I
Speaker 3: think you need people to doubt you, but you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. But also to be big.
Speaker 5: I mean, like far as from from your standpoint of
Speaker 5: being a corner, you got a guy you're facing that
Speaker 5: he's he's he's quietly fashioning what you imagine he asks.
Speaker 3: He had the side over the size over you.
Speaker 5: When y'all get in that situation where the ball in,
Speaker 5: you're gonna panic. You're gonna try to knock the ball
Speaker 5: down and grab his arms. So that's why he was
Speaker 5: getting all the flags. Yeah, yeah, So I mean, I
Speaker 5: just think.
Speaker 1: One way to combat or counteract some of the issues
Speaker 1: they were having offensively in terms of like not finding
Speaker 1: exposive plays. You bring in people, you bringing off, bring
Speaker 1: just bringing offensive lineman, and you get more eligibles out,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find more exposed to players, right, bringing more explosive,
Speaker 1: dynamic playmakers like Merit for example, Like in camp and
Speaker 1: he's a seventh round pick. I don't know what he's
Speaker 1: gonna be, man, but he's explosive.
Speaker 2: Is all out doors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ran a one five oh ten yard split.
Speaker 1: That dude is getting up and running out there.
Speaker 4: I don't care what ron you get draft to the end,
Speaker 4: sometimes you could just see talent. Sometimes you just see
Speaker 4: talent and you can see it all over this kid,
Speaker 4: Like this kid is going to be a good pro.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so and again that kind of again we're
Speaker 1: kind of leading slowly from what they offense did well
Speaker 1: and the things that they could improve on. Like last
Speaker 1: year there were seventeenth in the NFL and passing game
Speaker 1: and I think that's probably yards if I'm going to
Speaker 1: yards per game. So again that goes back to the
Speaker 1: explosive player. I mean, think about all the quick game
Speaker 1: they had to do last year, right.
Speaker 3: And it goes back to the fifteen fourteen seventeen play drives.
Speaker 4: You can't have four yards a num four hundred yards
Speaker 4: passing the game if we're literally taking.
Speaker 3: Up But in defense to that, it was actually the
Speaker 3: way the way they needed to win. That's the way
Speaker 3: we had to win.
Speaker 1: And I think about that, and in some ways it's
Speaker 1: a criticism that we're talking about it, but it's a
Speaker 1: strength that you were coached that well to be that efficient.
Speaker 3: And do it over and over again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like we did it over was We was waiting
Speaker 5: for that damn slipper to fall off, you know. I mean,
Speaker 5: this can't be real, Like you're going to continue to
Speaker 5: win like this weekend and week out and they kept
Speaker 5: doing it.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Kyle when he was here and
Speaker 1: he was like, man, we are not this is in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. It's like we're not built to go on
Speaker 1: a fifteen play drive. Like we just the quarterback. We
Speaker 1: didn't need to handle it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We need explosive chunks and so to have a quarterback
Speaker 1: that could sit there and just do me thoughtically the
Speaker 1: borings over and over again, to see the quickness of
Speaker 1: his release to get the ball out when he needs to,
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: And then when that all fails, I'm gonna run on.
Speaker 2: And so I think about like we're being critical of that,
Speaker 2: but I do think you could make the offense more
Speaker 2: efficient and more variance proof if you can find ways
Speaker 2: to get more exposed.
Speaker 3: Especially if you get him exposed to plays in the
Speaker 3: run game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, most definitely in the run game and pushing
Speaker 4: it down the field.
Speaker 3: Like you got guy that can push you down the field.
Speaker 4: Now I got a guy that can I can call
Speaker 4: a hitch fum first down.
Speaker 3: He can break a tack and take you sixty. Like,
Speaker 3: it's just so many more choices than it.
Speaker 2: Was last year.
Speaker 1: And so I've had a lot of people ask me like, well,
Speaker 1: how does Cliff get the offense better? And so I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of stuff the Clif's going to
Speaker 1: do in terms of getting in the lab, maximizing talent,
Speaker 1: putting people in good positions, like he's just a mad scientist.
Speaker 1: Like when you watch the way he uses formations, and
Speaker 1: again people say, oh, well Terry always lines up on
Speaker 1: the left, Like look at what he does with people
Speaker 1: in the slot. Luka, we does with spacing, Luky, what
Speaker 1: he does with four receiver overloads, Like he does a
Speaker 1: lot of really clever stuff in that regard.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you who loves Cliffs ze Keys Yeah,
Speaker 4: dim Brown, Yeah, you know what's going putting.
Speaker 1: Him in play where they can flourish, right, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: I say to myself, like, but the other great thing
Speaker 1: about some of these personnel moves, specifically the Deebo Samuel one, right,
Speaker 1: is that he doesn't really need to change anything he's done.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: No, you can still run a slant to Debo. He
Speaker 2: didn't run a slant. He can catch you slant and
Speaker 2: he can turn that thing into twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: We like bubble screens, Like we're in a little prestap rpo.
Speaker 1: They've got two over three. We're just gonn nail that
Speaker 1: to Debo, like watch him go for forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So even like we've taken the quick game element and
Speaker 1: now made it lethally effective.
Speaker 3: And you got alert guy. He's such an alert guy.
Speaker 3: I'm a defensive guy.
Speaker 4: So when we yell alert, that mean it's some tomfoolery
Speaker 4: in the game.
Speaker 3: Like they got a guy in there that we we
Speaker 3: call a joker.
Speaker 4: Well, Debo is a joker when he is alert, I
Speaker 4: mean alert one one is in the game.
Speaker 3: Where is one is in the back feeling the slought?
Speaker 3: Is he outside? Where is one?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: He in motion? Now we really alert? He in motion?
Speaker 4: Like do you know simply devot in motion dictates so
Speaker 4: much of a defense that one thing when when when
Speaker 4: JD five lift their foot up and de Bo come
Speaker 4: in motion, he just changed our whole defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the other one that's to talk about too
Speaker 1: is like Lane. And again he's a rookie, right fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. Like, so what is his impact actually going
Speaker 1: to be? Probably not too tremendous, but to have that
Speaker 1: vertical space to open up some windows, I can give
Speaker 1: him a reverse like him on a screen, like him
Speaker 1: on a bubble, and like Tanny, you know how important
Speaker 1: that is. You've been around, like Aldrick Robinson who was
Speaker 1: not an over the nuanced route runner, but that just
Speaker 1: give him in speed is.
Speaker 3: The threat of him.
Speaker 5: You bring a lane in the game and say, man,
Speaker 5: guess what, I'm finished scaled of boat Jesus out of
Speaker 5: these guys by putting them on the outside, and it's
Speaker 5: let them run a go right now, the run and
Speaker 5: go right now, and don't even throw them the ball,
Speaker 5: just to let you know better, you better not try me.
Speaker 5: Don't don't bring that safety yet. Don't I'm gonna run
Speaker 5: this go route with this guy one time. Let me
Speaker 5: see the coverage that I want and I'm gonna run
Speaker 5: them again. And that's what that's what. That's what the
Speaker 5: smart ocs do. They go out there and they fish
Speaker 5: for players like, let me see what happened in the
Speaker 5: first quarter when I run this, when I show this
Speaker 5: formation with this guy in the game, what they get me?
Speaker 5: So in the second half of I might need that
Speaker 5: big play and I run that and I'll see different.
Speaker 5: I'm going to them. So that's what you have at
Speaker 5: your disposal right now. Offensively, when you have so many weapons,
Speaker 5: you have the speed, when you have the threats of
Speaker 5: a tarry out there along with the other names. Man,
Speaker 5: you got guys now that you can really go out
Speaker 5: there and say you talk about this all the time.
Speaker 3: We dictating what's going on.
Speaker 5: Don't care what you got going on your defense, what
Speaker 5: down it is, what yards, how much we need.
Speaker 3: We're gonna dictate by how we who we put on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 5: And you got to change because if you don't change,
Speaker 5: we can throw that ship screen and be off to
Speaker 5: the races.
Speaker 3: I like Jayleen Lane because of what me and you
Speaker 3: always talk about.
Speaker 4: I love receivers. This good that showed me you was
Speaker 4: good with a bad quarterback.
Speaker 3: All because then I don't know what you can be.
Speaker 3: I don't got a clue how good you are.
Speaker 4: And I think what jayman Lane is, he's a dude
Speaker 4: that just he's avive bad quarterback and still got a
Speaker 4: chance to showcase his talent.
Speaker 3: I think that goes. That tells me you can be
Speaker 3: as good as your quarterback is.
Speaker 4: And if you got a quarterback like Jedi five, the
Speaker 4: roof is the ceiling, like Michael Jordan's say, the roof
Speaker 4: is the ceiling.
Speaker 3: And then you got to think about it too.
Speaker 5: I think when you get a guy like him, I
Speaker 5: think when when when you when you ask yourself that question?
Speaker 5: And how was he able to still be productive with
Speaker 5: that quarterback play? He's a pump return yeah, at nature,
Speaker 5: So it's like guys as pump returners be Mitchell always
Speaker 5: said that you gotta be wire a little different to
Speaker 5: play special teams, especially at those two positions kick returning,
Speaker 5: pump return.
Speaker 3: That's all you don't get me wrong.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of the other guys doing a lot
Speaker 5: of things to help you, but half of the time
Speaker 5: you making a man miss while that ball in the
Speaker 5: air is you. So when you put me in a
Speaker 5: situation where how to survive out here with nobody God
Speaker 5: throwing me bad balls. It's being a pump returner all
Speaker 5: over again. You see what I'm saying. So that's why
Speaker 5: he's able to go out there and be productive because
Speaker 5: he's doing it already at a high capacity as a
Speaker 5: pump return and it's like the same thing as a receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting talking to coaches about ways to get
Speaker 1: guys confident. A lot of times if they can do
Speaker 1: it on teams, it gives them a little bit of
Speaker 1: juice leg room to be like, hey.
Speaker 2: I can do something more here, be more devastating. So
Speaker 2: I think the other thing is that comes up in
Speaker 2: this question shot here is like, is there an evolution
Speaker 2: of the offense? And to me, the evolution.
Speaker 1: And I hate to sound redundant, it's can you find
Speaker 1: explosive opportunities? And I know that's easy for me to say,
Speaker 1: but can you find explosive opportunities in the same way
Speaker 1: that like Kyle Shanahan and the San Francisco forty unders
Speaker 1: hit a couple of years ago, where the average of
Speaker 1: target is not crazy high, so the likelihood of completion
Speaker 1: is very high, but the separation is there.
Speaker 2: It is there, and then the guy can work after
Speaker 2: the catch.
Speaker 1: So think about a good example of this is, hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to take a fifteen yard dig, but we've
Speaker 1: cleared it out in a way so the receiver can
Speaker 1: catch it running, you can attack, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, instead of a instead of a fifteen yard.
Speaker 2: Game, we've got a twenty five thirty yard gain, right, And.
Speaker 1: I think that's where schematically, I'm not saying they need
Speaker 1: to be hitting fifty yard bombs all the time, but
Speaker 1: can we increase the can we get out of the
Speaker 1: quick game a little bit? And I'm not saying don't
Speaker 1: leave it, keep it where it is, because it's so
Speaker 1: important the RPO stuff that suff's important, but can we
Speaker 1: kind of because again this is a crazy statistic. So
Speaker 1: they were twenty fourth in passing explosive place, but they
Speaker 1: were third in passing explosive plays over fifty yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because so it was like basically they were hitting
Speaker 2: it quick or they're hitting a home run home run.
Speaker 1: So to me, there's a whole middle of the field
Speaker 1: there that we need that in terms of average up
Speaker 1: the target that we can work on.
Speaker 2: So to me, that's where if I'm if Clifford asked me,
Speaker 2: we would never do this.
Speaker 3: The evolution for me, the Office of Line.
Speaker 5: You unlock it up theren because you get a better
Speaker 5: run game of it than now.
Speaker 3: Everything is run better pass I think.
Speaker 1: But I think my point is that all of it
Speaker 1: seems to be swirling around. Can we open up the
Speaker 1: middle of the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but that.
Speaker 5: When that run game started hitting and they see a
Speaker 5: little more speed, they play and see a little more
Speaker 5: you know, a guy who really has that what you
Speaker 5: call it, that vision that know how to hit those holes,
Speaker 5: know how to bounce.
Speaker 3: Now we're coming up.
Speaker 5: Now we now that now we're gonna leave this over
Speaker 5: this field. We're wide open because we got to bring
Speaker 5: these guys up the show. You got to slow them
Speaker 5: down the front because as good as.
Speaker 4: Sat kwon Barkley Woods last year, he was not getting
Speaker 4: touched to five yards down there for you.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, crazy, let's be on.
Speaker 4: The offensive line opens up everything, man, I think it
Speaker 4: changes everything Like this.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifteen yards passing the game. That ain't
Speaker 3: what it's gonna be. Not with the Office of Live.
Speaker 1: Well, think about Larry Tunswell's superpower is passing passpro He's
Speaker 1: an excellent pass protector, right, you know, if you can
Speaker 1: put him on an island work some slides, you get
Speaker 1: an upgrade from Brandon Coleman on the interior.
Speaker 3: But then he and that's so funny.
Speaker 4: We upgraded Brandon cole and he moved to guard and
Speaker 4: he upgraded the guard position.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what that's You're you're hoping for that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think that's I think that's a great point.
Speaker 2: Fred Tayna. Where do you see the evolution? You have
Speaker 2: an idea on that?
Speaker 3: I was I.
Speaker 5: Was going to speak on the run game. I think
Speaker 5: the run game unlocks the officer line, and the run
Speaker 5: game unlocks all that.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: I think last year at times, you know, even because
Speaker 5: he ran good at times, but it was at times
Speaker 5: where if we had a better run game in certain
Speaker 5: games we could have dictated, We could have dictated a
Speaker 5: lot more offensively, and we had to fight and claw
Speaker 5: and bite. Just the j was the run game, just
Speaker 5: to get what we wanted offensively because the lack of
Speaker 5: that run game. So if we start off with that
Speaker 5: thing humming the way I think we can with the
Speaker 5: office and line upgrades with the running back upgrades.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think the you know this guy's.
Speaker 2: A yeah, I mean the sky the sky is the ceiling.
Speaker 3: With this guy.
Speaker 1: And then I think we've talked about this a little
Speaker 1: bit already, but I think it's important to kind of
Speaker 1: just double clicks of the fans we're thinking about. Obviously
Speaker 1: we're excited about the offensive line. Yea in house guys
Speaker 1: that have been here. Who are the guys that are
Speaker 1: gonna take that next step to help this transition for
Speaker 1: Cliff and this offense to be easier?
Speaker 3: Like what I got to say them that we you're
Speaker 3: gonna like the two guys.
Speaker 5: When I go before you, then you say, who the
Speaker 5: guy is gonna help this offense? Yeah, take the next step. Well,
Speaker 5: we just talked about two of them, J C J
Speaker 5: and Tunsen. That's that's what we will. So we'll lead
Speaker 5: them out of there. And I think I also throw
Speaker 5: a cover in there too. But I think they're running
Speaker 5: back room. I honestly think that what about it's gonna
Speaker 5: be this and I'm going to give it to you.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a fire down there that's been lit.
Speaker 5: Either somebody gonna get burnt and get up out of
Speaker 5: the get up out of their own way. Why somebody
Speaker 5: knew gonna be back there doing it. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 5: saying it. Don't don't take my I just I love
Speaker 5: when you when you bring competition to any room, because
Speaker 5: you know why, it's going to bring the best out
Speaker 5: of you.
Speaker 3: The guy looking at old school.
Speaker 2: Looking at you.
Speaker 3: I am trying to make this thing sound no better.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get to my.
Speaker 2: Point it but because it's like what it is though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just feel like that room, to me,
Speaker 5: we've already seen it, you know, flashes of it out there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: Look you bring something in my room, boy, you better,
Speaker 5: you better bring everything you got every day because I'm
Speaker 5: finn I'm fin to compete.
Speaker 3: And I feel like that that room just got upgraded
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: And then you get a you get an Austin Eckler,
Speaker 5: who I still think highly.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I don't even talk about it, man, he was so
Speaker 3: phenomenal last year.
Speaker 5: For I remember that at one point we missed him
Speaker 5: for four weeks, four five weeks.
Speaker 3: We didn't know what to do, and when he got
Speaker 3: in there, he didn't missed a beat. Just one of
Speaker 3: those guys. He moved the change man.
Speaker 2: Talk about another mismatch weapon like that's like you put
Speaker 2: him wherever you.
Speaker 3: Want, bring him in, debo in the game.
Speaker 4: At the same time, Trouble, you don't know what I'm doing. Trouble,
Speaker 4: you ain't got a clue. Now, my two guys, you're
Speaker 4: gonna like this one bringing back doing it for the you.
Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey, Okay, he talk about the guy that good
Speaker 2: o Minni.
Speaker 4: Yes, he showed up McCaffrey and being said it, look
Speaker 4: at you, look at this guy, those two guys. Because
Speaker 4: I'm looking for Ben and I know people are gonna
Speaker 4: be like, oh, that ain't gonna happen. I'm looking for
Speaker 4: Ben by mid season to start stealing half the reps
Speaker 4: from Arth and I know he ain't gotta steal it.
Speaker 3: You're stealing.
Speaker 2: But I mean another bespatch would be great. But I
Speaker 2: mean if he's grown that road, if he's.
Speaker 5: Growing, if he deserves the reps, just think Ben, what
Speaker 5: did being do well in college?
Speaker 3: Catch and run?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: But what did he do besides that? No, I'm talking
Speaker 5: about what He stretched the field a lot too. He
Speaker 5: rant better than the average guy his side as a
Speaker 5: tight end. So just imagine that that opens up in
Speaker 5: our with him being able to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here you get twelve or personnel they match him base.
Speaker 1: Then you've got these two guys that can win one
Speaker 1: on ones. Like that's all what you're trying to do.
Speaker 5: So that is like, that's scary to know that we
Speaker 5: can have that production or that kind of play from
Speaker 5: a guy with that size and with that capability.
Speaker 4: And Obie Kanobi and Luke Skywalk That's where I'm going
Speaker 4: being Obi Kobi.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go off the beaten path because we
Speaker 2: talked about Coleman, who I really think that's talk with
Speaker 2: the offensive line, you talked.
Speaker 1: About Luke and Ben. You talked about the running back room.
Speaker 1: You didn't say my name, but but Merritt, I think
Speaker 1: is going to be an interesting edition to that room.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go sneaky here. I'm gonna go Josh Johnson.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is Josh Johnson is
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. He's played for every team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: all thirty two.
Speaker 2: But I think about the infrastructure that this team and
Speaker 2: this staff is put around Jayden, and who better to
Speaker 2: help kind of take take that to the next day.
Speaker 3: I have the same bodybild they throw the same Like
Speaker 3: I was starting crazy. I was watching them throw the
Speaker 3: other day. I'm like, I can't tell the different between
Speaker 3: him and Jane. They're the same.
Speaker 1: And so what I love about this is that, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are we going to get Jaden better?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: He had he was like six in the NFL and
Speaker 1: completion percentage. Man, they were first and four. It down
Speaker 1: like a big time throwing blah blah blah. Man, Let's
Speaker 1: get somebody in there who's seen it, done it, consitting
Speaker 1: the relative Christmas pay washington Field with you. We got
Speaker 1: Marcus back. Yeah right, So I think an addition like
Speaker 1: that because again, ultimately that we talked about all these
Speaker 1: different tangential things. That guy's going to drive it is five, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So if I can support five even more, yeah, with
Speaker 1: a guy like that or resource like that. We talked
Speaker 1: about the when we did the Defensive Pod, we talked
Speaker 1: about the experience those guys brain trust and talk about
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about a guy who's literally
Speaker 1: played in fifteen offenses.
Speaker 3: He's played in twenty offenses.
Speaker 2: We didn't see it. The CFL play the U USF.
Speaker 3: It ain't no football he hasn't seen.
Speaker 1: He's played in. He's played in San Francisco with Harball.
Speaker 1: With Harball was running that crazy triple check offense that
Speaker 1: they ran. So, Man, I think that to me, that's
Speaker 1: a guy that I think is gonna help this offense
Speaker 1: take the next step. You might never see him take
Speaker 1: a snap on the field. You might not even make
Speaker 1: the team. I don't even know. But to have him
Speaker 1: in the building at this time plus push that along,
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty fantastic.
Speaker 4: That's a that's a good one. I wouldn't have thought
Speaker 4: of that. They want to hit my mind, but when
Speaker 4: you said it.
Speaker 5: I thought about it, and just knowing what they had
Speaker 5: out of Mariota too last year, I mean along with that,
Speaker 5: I mean that that's gonna light a fire five five lit.
Speaker 5: You know I'm gonna want He's one of them fights
Speaker 5: you don't put out. He want them fires you don't
Speaker 5: put out. It's just something special by the kid.
Speaker 3: No, for sure.
Speaker 1: Man, really excited. I'm really excited about the offense. But
Speaker 1: the thing I may be most excited about is this bakeoff.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You this is America's bakeoff aera This ain't.
Speaker 3: Just a bake It is my time, my snack. Let
Speaker 3: me see, this is.
Speaker 4: America's bakeoff, and I refuse to lose.
Speaker 2: All right, Freddie said, you won't lose. Will our little
Speaker 2: trays here for our bakeoff?
Speaker 4: Yes, it's America's ba a ju lapful of situation. So
Speaker 4: we was told to bring things, and I need it
Speaker 4: in excess because that's America.
Speaker 3: I broke three items and I brought one.
Speaker 2: Okay, Anda's here. Thank you for coming in, and thank
Speaker 2: you for participating in the bakeoff. And as always, the
Speaker 2: rules and parameters have been corrupted by fred Yes, but
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens here. Do you have anything you
Speaker 2: like to say?
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm going to start with well, I'll explain what
Speaker 10: I made.
Speaker 11: So if you guys want to hold up your little
Speaker 11: it's just blind tasted.
Speaker 7: It's a camera no no, because they like to say.
Speaker 11: We just need to Let's all right, this is an
Speaker 11: it's super cute.
Speaker 10: We'll say, we're talking presentation here. We take all things
Speaker 10: into considering it.
Speaker 11: Okay, it's a it's a vanilla cupcake with fruit in
Speaker 11: the middle, so like raspberry and blueberries in the middle,
Speaker 11: and then.
Speaker 10: It's decorated with.
Speaker 11: Like a whipped frosting with blackberries, raspberries, blueberries, red white,
Speaker 11: and blue. And they're a homemade I'm like some of
Speaker 11: the other homemaid suspiciously evenly shaped cookies.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, those those cookies are okay, real quick. Because
Speaker 2: you guys are watching, this is a cookie fread. It couldname.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a cookie come out of mind and looking.
Speaker 4: Like that because one cooking at the temperature that they
Speaker 4: say it three fifty. I cooked mind it three twenty five. Actually,
Speaker 4: I stinted the cooking time extra ten minutes. And I
Speaker 4: also borned the bottom of this come out of a package. No,
Speaker 4: it is cut with sisters food. No, I didn't now
Speaker 4: me myself.
Speaker 3: I made American CAFFETEO.
Speaker 11: We're not too yet, all right, try, I'm gonna be
Speaker 11: honest after you guys try.
Speaker 10: I do have to tell you a little story that.
Speaker 3: She didn't make.
Speaker 2: It is her fingernail here or something?
Speaker 10: The yeah Sandi, No, my oven broke.
Speaker 3: This was be a cupcake in hope it ain't a
Speaker 3: raccoon tail in it.
Speaker 2: This is pretty dense.
Speaker 10: It's it's supposed to be more dense. Some type of
Speaker 10: cake that it is.
Speaker 3: Take like somebody died in here.
Speaker 10: What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Say that frosting is awesome?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 2: You made this from drug?
Speaker 10: Yeah, every every single part pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'll give you a props.
Speaker 2: That is good.
Speaker 3: Pretty good. I'm eating and I'm not saying the jelly
Speaker 3: in hero I ain't got no hate.
Speaker 10: That's fresh Frashberris.
Speaker 2: It's a little dense, but the frosting is really good.
Speaker 4: And here's the taste. Buds dances a little bit, then
Speaker 4: lays down.
Speaker 2: Is that good or bad?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Get to do that's your boy right there? All right, right,
Speaker 2: well done, Okay, here we go. So what do we got?
Speaker 2: So fred?
Speaker 5: Fred made a bunch of don't know. We got to
Speaker 5: exclude the cookie. The cookie is so good. I know
Speaker 5: that people them wegmans. I can see them on the
Speaker 5: container that he rubbed out.
Speaker 3: Check it out.
Speaker 4: I made the blue confetti cake in the corner of
Speaker 4: the fourth and inside of the blue confetti cake and
Speaker 4: got red right and blue in the inside. You're gonna
Speaker 4: hear there. You're gonna sit there, it's gonna hit the
Speaker 4: taste buzz right there and.
Speaker 3: Start to do the mc hammer. All you need to
Speaker 3: do is relax when it happens. Okay, relaxed down. You
Speaker 3: see how south that is. Sugar is stuck right there
Speaker 3: at the top of the mouth.
Speaker 4: Right, I got the devil strawberries. You know what a
Speaker 4: devil the egg is, but most people don't know what
Speaker 4: the devil strawberry is. A devil strawberry is basically cheesecake
Speaker 4: filling on top of a strawberry and crumbled crumbles on the.
Speaker 3: Top of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so we're gonna try this. This is
Speaker 1: the strawberry right here. Devil just popped thing right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is very yummy, and it's very yummy.
Speaker 2: What's gonna talk about.
Speaker 3: Cheesecake feeling? Right? I made from scratch, from Jesus stitching.
Speaker 2: I got two questions. Did you make the frosting for
Speaker 2: the confetti cake? Yes?
Speaker 4: I did, no scratch, heavy whipping cream, blue colored dye.
Speaker 2: It don't take long, No thingk long, and don't take long.
Speaker 2: Look like it's from a package.
Speaker 3: Like everything from a package with me.
Speaker 4: I mean no, I made this and I did it
Speaker 4: on Father's Day for you.
Speaker 3: Come on now, stop this.
Speaker 2: When did you start making?
Speaker 4: I started well, I started baking when I was like
Speaker 4: twelve years old, and I earned the name Freddy Crocker.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Okay, did you make this? Make these cooking? I know
Speaker 3: he made the fruit. Let me try to real quick.
Speaker 10: The strawberries do lo comade. They're not baked, but they
Speaker 10: do look comine.
Speaker 2: What how do you what? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Is not baked?
Speaker 10: They're not baked.
Speaker 2: Oh I see, yeah, yeah, I got you. I was like,
Speaker 2: you can't, but.
Speaker 10: They were good. I will give you.
Speaker 2: Fred This cookie is super suspect right here.
Speaker 3: Wow, because I know how to not.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you if you are watching on YouTube, here's
Speaker 2: the bottom of the cookie.
Speaker 12: Here's what I cooked. The top of the cook I cooked.
Speaker 12: Shape minutes longer. Notice the shape minutes longer. Notice the
Speaker 12: shape of the cookie. I don't know how you make cookies.
Speaker 12: My wife makes awesome.
Speaker 3: Could you be looking like looking like I love my pick,
Speaker 3: will be looking my cookie? Be looking straight? You don't
Speaker 3: even look round. So you're saying my cake? You know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Jason's on the mic, but so Jason so perfect?
Speaker 3: No, you made that cookie? That's do you do you know?
Speaker 3: Do you know how to knock burn a cookie? Cookie?
Speaker 4: It's wex cake. So because the one got wax paper,
Speaker 4: another one doesn't. I didn't cook the cake, and wex.
Speaker 10: Bad the cookie.
Speaker 4: If you want them not to stick, cook them at
Speaker 4: a lower temperature and cook them on wax paper for
Speaker 4: you no cookers.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know what's wrong.
Speaker 3: See this is the problem. We can't never really have
Speaker 3: a regular cook.
Speaker 10: I believe that you baked the cake. I'm not saying
Speaker 10: you didn't bake the cake. I just been skeptical of
Speaker 10: the ingredients.
Speaker 3: What what ingredients?
Speaker 5: I just kept the cub I'm just gonna put it
Speaker 5: that there. I like the Sam's cake.
Speaker 2: Check.
Speaker 3: Y'all need to get that hang out of your host sounds.
Speaker 3: It's really Sam.
Speaker 11: Everyone is really excited in the office about the fun
Speaker 11: fatty cake.
Speaker 3: The cake.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's strawberries amazing.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any taste.
Speaker 3: You can't taste I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: But hey, my snack bags.
Speaker 2: It is a big Listen, dude, I actually look, he
Speaker 2: liked the stupcake a lot.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I think you just like Ann. I didn't want to
Speaker 3: be on her side and a cookcake.
Speaker 5: It's good, discover. It's something about that damn icing on
Speaker 5: that Sam's cake.
Speaker 3: That ain't no Sam. I don't I know it's Sam
Speaker 3: calling me Sam.
Speaker 2: Actually don't. I like the cake is good, like too
Speaker 2: sweet for me. But that's how I like.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that I got a sweet too.
Speaker 5: No, Tamn, I got a sweet too. What about the
Speaker 5: cake itself? Both of them good? I like any k too,
Speaker 5: But well yourk like, I go get some money for
Speaker 5: it right now.
Speaker 3: I can go sell it that you bought it.
Speaker 4: You know I bought it. I bet that cake last night.
Speaker 4: I could go sell that cake. I mated that cake
Speaker 4: last night. It was great and great fight.
Speaker 3: I thought, I rely so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So just just walking made your icing real quick? Just
Speaker 2: walk me through it, just the steps, real quick.
Speaker 4: Icing is nothing but heavy cream sugar. Alright, you put
Speaker 4: a little milk in there, You put your food coloring
Speaker 4: in that whatever color you want.
Speaker 2: You whipped a boy him.
Speaker 3: No, you whipping with a machine, okay, just making sure
Speaker 3: I looked like damn you boom.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying you literally icing ain't number sugar. Let's
Speaker 4: be honest, that sugar.
Speaker 2: Put your eggs and icy.
Speaker 10: I if you do like a whipped like whip, and if.
Speaker 3: You want to be liar.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're not in the what.
Speaker 3: You got over that cale? What you're coming up with?
Speaker 2: Hm, let's vote, I know, so who's so we vote?
Speaker 10: I just feel like it was a little out numbered
Speaker 10: three to one.
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna tell you what do you think?
Speaker 2: So this one was?
Speaker 3: That's America, that's America. Why why do you eat your
Speaker 3: your cooking waiting to see y'all?
Speaker 2: I just want to get taste.
Speaker 3: I'm talking him, talking abou him over it. I want
Speaker 3: to see. I want y'all. I'm trying to win. I
Speaker 3: smashed it smashed, and it's the only person I ain't
Speaker 3: beat it. I gotta win.
Speaker 5: I like a cake too, but I just feel like
Speaker 5: that blue can so so voting Jason, somebody that blue cake?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was actually gonna say, of the things
Speaker 1: on the plate, no bs, I like that this cupcake
Speaker 1: the best. The cake's a little dense, but I like
Speaker 1: the frosting a lot. But again, I'm not like, uh,
Speaker 1: I don't like that harsh wheat frosted. That's more of
Speaker 1: a preference for me.
Speaker 5: And I'm a sweet guy. I like Anna's cake, but
Speaker 5: I gotta go to blue cast. I think he bought it.
Speaker 5: I think, and it feels betrayed. So who's gonna so Jason.
Speaker 1: I really want to know what Jason got to say,
Speaker 1: because Jason is the getting that mic.
Speaker 2: Jason, go get on that mic. You can't see Jason Strawberry.
Speaker 9: I loved, but it's not bag big, So punt that
Speaker 9: out of you, not even going to count.
Speaker 3: It that you did not make.
Speaker 4: That cook as my cookie to ever maked.
Speaker 9: You have never made anything perfect that looks like it
Speaker 9: came out of.
Speaker 3: I knew how to me the box I went.
Speaker 4: I went about wex paper, make Duncan hounds, I went
Speaker 4: about chocolate chips to make that.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to stop doing your proof. You're gonna
Speaker 5: stop taking your video just now.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying all every single one is noffect way
Speaker 9: perfect size, perfect, perfect.
Speaker 3: I don't want to catch all these, but like, how
Speaker 3: did you scoop them out of the ball and put
Speaker 3: them on? Because they're perfect?
Speaker 4: And of all, I don't let my milk at even
Speaker 4: having the feel the field and the store boars. If
Speaker 4: you want to be perfect, all you have to do
Speaker 4: is smash them. Don't let them milk on the tray.
Speaker 4: Smashed them, so now they just rise. Now, idiots, I'm
Speaker 4: not counting the cookie. So now it comes down.
Speaker 1: To the caked this there's nothing home made about it.
Speaker 2: It's just it feels like you just.
Speaker 3: You like cook Look at me. I've had plenty of
Speaker 3: store boll cookies. I know.
Speaker 2: That is not a store energy experts.
Speaker 3: Do you want me to bring the same cookies tom Off?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 8: Do you want me to just go to the store
Speaker 8: and biden We're good?
Speaker 3: There's so many a feel myself doing. I would do
Speaker 3: a video, all right, it ain't that hard not to
Speaker 3: burn cookies.
Speaker 2: We'll post that video if you bring it up.
Speaker 9: So it comes down to the cupcake in the cake.
Speaker 9: That's really what this comes down to for me.
Speaker 2: I don't think the.
Speaker 9: Cupcake was a little dense, but I loved the fruit
Speaker 9: in it as like adding the sweetness your sugar. You
Speaker 9: did a great job balancing unlike the light sweetness of
Speaker 9: the icy and but that I see that icing the
Speaker 9: add on his store bought fun fetty box cake really
Speaker 9: made fetty game. It wins for me.
Speaker 3: So Fred, you do take the win if that's real.
Speaker 2: If that's not, I actually think the cake's real, though, because.
Speaker 9: I'm saying, like, if you didn't buy the box that
Speaker 9: like you just add eggs and butter box.
Speaker 3: If you actually did it, I believe you did it
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 5: Because can Bay and we questioned every WEE fact check
Speaker 5: Fred for everything.
Speaker 3: But I got that because because you last so damn much.
Speaker 5: But but honestly, Bro that good.
Speaker 3: You know, like I'm sure I was making money off
Speaker 3: the cake.
Speaker 8: This this part of the case, good sponging partner is
Speaker 8: it is good?
Speaker 3: And then and then the icy, then the ice just
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna like that kind of ice.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I need to see the wrapper of the
Speaker 5: iceing that you you.
Speaker 3: Did that and spreading on your cake in the morning because.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, you get the strawberries and then you're like,
Speaker 9: oh crap, I need to make a third thing.
Speaker 3: And just walking, I've been blamed. We eliminated the cookies.
Speaker 3: The cookies are gone.
Speaker 2: Cookies are gone.
Speaker 3: You can't video to Fred like this.
Speaker 2: This feels a store about cookie in my hand.
Speaker 3: That mean I could cook, Kaylen, that mean not good.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a real Get on that mic
Speaker 1: and tell you right now when do you think this
Speaker 1: is real?
Speaker 2: Get over?
Speaker 3: There was good.
Speaker 11: Okay, I will say at least if I lost, at
Speaker 11: least I lost was good.
Speaker 10: That I baked, baked straight up.
Speaker 5: And that's how you got to feel because because you
Speaker 5: know you did it the right way.
Speaker 2: Again, I really like the icing was that you did
Speaker 2: the right way.
Speaker 10: I know the cupcake was definitely When in a while,
Speaker 10: it means.
Speaker 1: We all thought producer Kaka, I saw you nodding that
Speaker 1: Fred baked this.
Speaker 2: Is there a reason you think that Fred baked this?
Speaker 10: Going to hear him, Kayle feel like he did bake that.
Speaker 2: Youkay Cal, I thought you were smart, and here you are.
Speaker 3: I don't even swing.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that is on smooth side because I.
Speaker 4: Tell her my preparation for telling me, and I said,
Speaker 4: I'm going to go out my waiting not to burn
Speaker 4: these cookies. I'm gonna use wax weight. I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: the small thing. I'm ana smash them before they even
Speaker 4: get baked. I'm gonna do a small thing.
Speaker 3: So guess what we we we were tripping. We should be.
Speaker 5: Making some money off your baking, cause, Brandy Crocker, we
Speaker 5: need to we need to be having a baked a
Speaker 5: base seller for the damn commands in the podcast you.
Speaker 3: Get them tickets in the cover with a free came wait.
Speaker 2: Trip we trip.
Speaker 1: If you did, I don't believe it. I can't even
Speaker 1: I can't the cake, I can I just said the
Speaker 1: cake part.
Speaker 4: Of the want to give me, I gave you to kick,
Speaker 4: I gave you the cake from cooking was so fine.
Speaker 3: I'm just eliminating them myself, cause them things was famous. Amos.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you that Freddy Krock has delivered. I
Speaker 4: have beating everybody in the building his fourth Anna, you
Speaker 4: know only.
Speaker 2: So technically it's beating you twice.
Speaker 8: What was the technicality because Red, No, it's two to one,
Speaker 8: one to the one. Actually one one one one. It's
Speaker 8: all about the last win. Never the land is all
Speaker 8: about the last win. Thank you, Anna, I think you
Speaker 8: put up a great fight.
Speaker 3: Uh, he was right. Your cake was dense. The lift tart,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you made it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: She obviously made that.
Speaker 10: Not really, I'm calling this.
Speaker 2: We'll say that the two cakes and has done. They've
Speaker 2: both been dense, they've both been done. Scared.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I struggle struggle.
Speaker 3: Zach has a style about Zach puts it in. It's
Speaker 3: just over the top. Yeah, he brings a lion and everything.
Speaker 2: Anna likes dense cakes.
Speaker 4: I think it's because of the altitude in Colorado. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and low attitude up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a little you're out of practice, you know it,
Speaker 10: can I I wanted you to win so bad, I
Speaker 10: know it.
Speaker 3: That is why I actually tried to say the cookies different.
Speaker 2: Friend. I couldn't even taste the fruit. But that's my
Speaker 2: personal problem.
Speaker 9: So before we go, I just want to mention Fred
Speaker 9: to make this victory a little sweeter, like the icing
Speaker 9: on your cake. She was texting me nervously about this
Speaker 9: coming up, like she was like, should we change the topic?
Speaker 3: Should it be this?
Speaker 9: She was like texting Tanna right and making sure she
Speaker 9: didn't and you could tell in thee and she was
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