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Speaker 1: Doctor Todd Frish is an author and speaker working in

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Speaker 1: the art of face reading. Over the last four decades,

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Speaker 1: doctor Todd has encouraged, motivated, and inspired hundreds of practitioners

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Speaker 1: in the healing arts, from medical doctors to energy healers,

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Speaker 1: chiropractors to nurses. Attendees of his workshops walk away with

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Speaker 1: new information they can start using Monday morning. Hi doctor Todd,

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Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I've already read your face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what, you know my face probably more

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Speaker 1: than I do.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. I'll take a good

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Speaker 2: swing at it.

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Speaker 1: So I actually found you on Instagram. I was telling

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Speaker 1: you before the podcast, and I found your page so

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Speaker 1: fascinating because you read, you read people's faces. So you

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Speaker 1: will do these breakdowns of celebrity and you'll tell us

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Speaker 1: what certain lines mean, maybe what their life is going

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Speaker 1: to look like, what their life did look like in

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Speaker 1: the past. And it's just such an interesting way to

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Speaker 1: get someone's history or break down of their inside their

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Speaker 1: personality through just looking at their face. So I had

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Speaker 1: to have you do mine, which we talked about, and

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Speaker 1: you did, and I was telling you it was so

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Speaker 1: spot on, so much of it really describe my personality.

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Speaker 1: You even mentioned maybe some areas that I might struggle with,

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Speaker 1: like certain illnesses or certain things to look out for,

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Speaker 1: and all of that was just really helpful and interesting.

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Speaker 1: So now we're here, and I guess we should start

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Speaker 1: by telling people what is face reading?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of comes in the wool category for

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Speaker 2: a lot of right, and I get that, but really,

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Speaker 2: do we not all read faces? When you see someone,

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Speaker 2: you go, Okay, something bothering you?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: What did you see that day? You didn't see the

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Speaker 2: last time you saw them, So basically you just did

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Speaker 2: face reading. Putting legs to that. I think it was

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Speaker 2: important for me as a physician. We are trained to

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Speaker 2: ask what's wrong? And I get that. What I struggled

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Speaker 2: with was I had patients come to me, and any

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Speaker 2: doctor that listens to this is going to agree with this.

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Speaker 2: We knew they were sick, They knew they were sick,

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Speaker 2: and all their tests were a textbook midline normal. So

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Speaker 2: the obviously answer is twenty milligrams of prosaic FA. Oh honey,

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Speaker 2: you're depressed. Any doctor calls you honey, you can kick

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Speaker 2: him in anothers explain to whom he was wrong. So

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Speaker 2: my motivation started with a paradigm shift, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling because I know something's going on and yet

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Speaker 2: nothing is showing. And just to throw something at him

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Speaker 2: to try to help symptoms didn't seem totally correct. That

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Speaker 2: there's a time and place for that too. So I

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Speaker 2: had this paradigm shift, and I thought, what if I asked?

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Speaker 2: What's not right? So I want not pursuit. I'm a

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Speaker 2: bucket face. You have some bucket qualities. So we bucket faces.

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Speaker 2: We love to put things in our bucket. We have

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Speaker 2: a thirst for knowledge. We just love to learn that.

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Speaker 2: We're intellectually persistent. We're analytical or strategists or list makers,

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Speaker 2: and we never finish our list, do we.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to make them. You're right, yeah, we.

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Speaker 2: Do love to make that. If we finish them, God

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Speaker 2: will take us home. So we can't. We have to

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Speaker 2: hit things, Okay, So I hit the books. I studied

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Speaker 2: iervetic medicine. I studied galiens for humors. I studied human psychology.

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Speaker 2: I took a swing at astrology. Didn't I didn't find

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Speaker 2: the value I was looking. I was looking for physiological support.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some value to astrology, and then some

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Speaker 2: astrologists out there that are incredibly gifted. I just couldn't

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Speaker 2: connect it to what I wanted to. I had a

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Speaker 2: lot of books on traditional Chinese medicine and and there

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Speaker 2: was a little sliver in that something they referred to

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Speaker 2: as mien hung in Japan, it's boshin, which means facial diagnosis,

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Speaker 2: and I was I bought a book probably the early

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Speaker 2: eighties called Secrets of the Face. There were these nine

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Speaker 2: phase shapes. And if you look behind me, I have

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Speaker 2: over eighty books on facial diagnosis, most of them about personality.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. I wanted physiology. I wanted to know this

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Speaker 2: person's got a subclinical lowthira, this person's got some but

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Speaker 2: this person's got whatever, whatever, whatever. So my motivation was

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Speaker 2: just grew into to the point where we just signed

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Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar contract with the VA, specifically the Wounded

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Speaker 2: Warrior Program for early detection of PTSD postpritic stress disorder,

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Speaker 2: dramatic brain injury, depression and despair. What sole the deal was?

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Speaker 2: We separated depression and despair psychologist, and the dictionary puts

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Speaker 2: those as synonymous. So when a soul sure is suicidal.

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Speaker 2: Depression certainly could nurture some suicidal tendencies. But when you

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Speaker 2: have depression, I'm depressed. And this is the reason why despair,

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Speaker 2: there's a hopelessness that comes in suicidal ideation will be

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Speaker 2: increased one thousandfold. That's the soldier that's going to end

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Speaker 2: his life. And that's the soldier we can pick up

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Speaker 2: with our facial diagnosis. We know what it looks like

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Speaker 2: on the face, and I think we can make such

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Speaker 2: a difference, so much so that the government signed a

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Speaker 2: contract with us. I've blown away. I'm watching it being signed,

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Speaker 2: and I'm in tears. I've been doing this for four

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Speaker 2: plus decades and it's just part of my DNA, and

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Speaker 2: to have that moment happened in my life was surreal

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Speaker 2: and unbelievable and spiritually uplifting. Let me say it that way. Look,

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Speaker 2: if I say one soldier with this technology, it'll be

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Speaker 2: a good day.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you how do you turn it off?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: And I want to get into the breakdowns of what

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Speaker 1: actually it involves or what kind of things you can read.

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Speaker 1: But when you're looking at me right now, how are

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Speaker 1: you not my face? Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: How do you walk around the world and not just

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Speaker 1: read everyone's face all the time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't turn it off. Yeah, the face shape

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Speaker 2: that we are is a gift and from our creator.

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Speaker 2: Now it comes with a caveat. You must use that

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Speaker 2: gift to honor your creator, but you also must use

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Speaker 2: it to honor mankind and help mankind. So your sensitivity,

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Speaker 2: your ability to spread your branches and protect, and your intellect.

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Speaker 2: You've got three gifts. This is a rare commodity. So

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Speaker 2: these are gifts that you have. And when you put

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Speaker 2: that it is in fact a gift. It just puts

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Speaker 2: a whole new layer on it. So again, I can't

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Speaker 2: turn it off. Now I'm respectful, and I don't bust

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Speaker 2: and bring up a conversation. It's hard to keep my moushut,

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Speaker 2: especially when I see something that I know is off.

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Speaker 2: That is a very simple fix, but you have to

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Speaker 2: be respectful of where people are. And I always sam,

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Speaker 2: I've got a marketing company. They'll send me pictures. Do

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Speaker 2: you know this person? I will now, well you have

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Speaker 2: them on that TikTok and YouTube and over. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just like to do it and then let it

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Speaker 2: happen and whatever comes out of it is good to bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay with my wife will reading me comments that

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Speaker 2: people will make that it's bogus, and somebody else will

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Speaker 2: say is the most incredible thing I've ever seen, you

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Speaker 2: know whatever. You know, everybody's got an opinion. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk a little bit about we said what

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Speaker 1: face reading is, but can you talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about some of the things that you can find by

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Speaker 1: looking at people's faces and like maybe certain signifiers just

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, the body will be marked and

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Speaker 2: what that means. If you have an event that is

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Speaker 2: joyful or traumatic, it can show up in your face.

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Speaker 2: Does every event show up in your face? Unlikely, but

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Speaker 2: enough of do that they become valuable from a diagnostic standpoint. Again,

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Speaker 2: we're starting with the what's not right category and B sickly.

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Speaker 2: You have to be two thirds sigmatically for medicine to

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Speaker 2: show any abnormalities. That's a bit far down the road,

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Speaker 2: you know. And so the cheeks, for instance, represent your

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Speaker 2: lungs in traditional Chinese medicine. So if you see some

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Speaker 2: be sunken because they're lacking oxygen. It's in oxygen debt.

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Speaker 2: They're not getting oxygen because they've destroyed the little things

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Speaker 2: the damaging effect of smoking. It is very diagnostic. Color

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Speaker 2: on the face. We think of this way. The health

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Speaker 2: get that is we have black earth, and we grow

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Speaker 2: plants in that black earth, the green plants, and then

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Speaker 2: we eat that green plant, or we eat the animal

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Speaker 2: rosy healthy look. So the colors on the face, red

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Speaker 2: much red is too much heat. There's some flammatory things,

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Speaker 2: then the gray and if you get black. Now we

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Speaker 2: all know, we've all read the signs of cancer. If

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Speaker 2: So these gray and black cheeks with it, with the

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Speaker 2: large pores that are actually black, they look like black heads,

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Speaker 2: but nothing comes out of them. This person is a

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Speaker 2: degenerative change in their lungs. Wow, yeah, pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Actually, So how is I mean? We talked about this

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I had a body language

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Speaker 1: expert on the podcast and she was talking about how

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Speaker 1: much botox and plastic surgery are impacting how we can

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Speaker 1: read people's faces through that perspective of just like how

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Speaker 1: we trust people essentially, So how is this impacting maybe

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Speaker 1: even what you're seeing? And I'm saying this because in

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Speaker 1: my reading these lines, I think is what you were

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Speaker 1: talking about. But you said specifically never fill those because

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Speaker 1: that was like my wisdom lines.

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Speaker 2: Or well, they're called falling it's okay. I tried to

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Speaker 2: take the terms in traditional Chinese medicine TCM and kind

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Speaker 2: of westernize them or americanize them back. If I tell

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Speaker 1: Yeah they're going to go what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? What does that mean? So what I did was

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Speaker 2: just kind of make it more Western friendly and these

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Speaker 2: falling means purpose and spiritual strength. These lines tell us

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Speaker 2: not only have you found your purpose, you're living it

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Speaker 2: and you have deep spiritual strength. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: make those go away? I don't think so well, and

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Speaker 2: just to hitchhike on that point, there's this classic line

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Speaker 2: he cut off his nose despite his face. So the

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Speaker 2: nose represents power, drive, ego, and leadership. Okay, you have

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Speaker 2: a very balanced nose. It's actually perfect for your face.

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Speaker 2: And we can see your nostrils, which means you're very

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Speaker 2: approachable and very friendly. Your eyebrows are very low. This

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Speaker 2: is why you're standing in the line at the grocery

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Speaker 1: Always approachable, sheese friendly.

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Speaker 2: They see that they don't know what they're seeing, but

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Speaker 2: energetically they see it. So if the nose represents power, drive, ego,

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Speaker 2: five twenty eight. And that's the hurts of the word love.

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00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: I said, what's very significant is other words have a

432
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: vibration rate. Hate and anger have a vibrational rate of

433
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: one hundred. Fear is about one twenty five. And I said,

434
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: what even makes that more significant? Diseases have a vibrational rate.

435
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with cancer. The vibration rate of cancer,

436
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: depending on the cancer is forty about forty two one hundred.

437
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: So if hate and anger are a big part of

438
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: your life, you're bringing your body's energy down to a

439
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: place where cancer can say, hey, I can grow here

440
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: and nobody's gonna bug me. And she bursts into tears

441
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: on the table. I why should I should have listened

442
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: to that? Checked my spirit? And she said you did

443
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: not know my husband, did you? And I said no,

444
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: I didn't. She said, I loved him, but he was

445
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: a hateful man. Everybody hated him. He was mean, he

446
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,239
Speaker 2: just he was just not a nice human being. And

447
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: he died of state for pancreatic cancer.

448
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

449
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: And she says, doctor Tidd, you have to share this

450
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: with the world. That was one of those moments in

451
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: my life that I went okay, I must change from

452
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: this point forward, and I began sharing with people what

453
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: I was doing. I'll never forget one day it was

454
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: this gallant. I just loved her. She was just the

455
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 2: sweetest thing. Her name was Mary, and she was out

456
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: my waiting room. I was very busy, and at the

457
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: end of the day I realized I didn't see Mary,

458
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: and I said to my staff, Oh, was I so

459
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: far behind that Mary had to leave? I could, Oh, no,

460
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: I go. Can I ask why she was here? Was

461
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: she buying someone or something? She goes, No, she just

462
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: comes and sits here. She likes the energy of the office.

463
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: So I would treat fifty to sixty people in the day.

464
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: Fifty to sixty people went into a state of five

465
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: twenty eight. Nobody stays there, I don't. I think Christ did,

466
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: probably Gandhi did. I Buddha probably did. But I think

467
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: my paint and my walls to the energy of five

468
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: point twenty eight. And my staff said, she's not the

469
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: only one. I'm thinking Googos just sits in the doctor's

470
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: office because they feel better. You do You do you

471
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: think that improved my success right with patients? I think

472
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: very much.

473
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

474
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: So you know, when it comes to hate. The answer

475
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: and the answer always is love, and it's math. We

476
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: can knock out five haters by loving. So the path

477
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: has always been math in life. Yeah again, I'm a

478
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: buck to face, so math it's a big thing. So

479
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: I have these people that, oh, I hate Trump, I

480
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 2: hate the comment. Really, how's that working for you? What

481
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: disease are you inviting into your body?

482
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

483
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: I had some gal with a lot of left sided indicators,

484
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: and I said this, you got some issues. There's some

485
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: anger with a male, there's some stress with a male.

486
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: Well it's Trump, really, and I just share it. I said,

487
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: I hate him, and I go, okay, I respect that.

488
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean he's look, he's not a likable guy. No

489
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: one's gonna look at him and say, boy, he's arm

490
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 2: and fuzzy. But I said, your hatred for him, and

491
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: I explained the five, twenty eight and the hundred kind

492
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: of thing, and she was kind of quiet on death.

493
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: On the other end. I was doing a facial diagnosis

494
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: on her end, and I said, you know, just some thoughts.

495
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: You can take from it what you wish. But I

496
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: guess I hate hate. It's an interesting thing, and I

497
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: just I think we can just try to put love

498
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: wherever we can, try to make a difference in this

499
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: life and see what happens from there.

500
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: Well, I love that you touched on the fact of

501
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: how hate is impacting us physically though, too, because I

502
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: mean I've always talked a little bit about stored emotions

503
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: and what they're doing to our bodies.

504
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: But they're damaging. They damaging, profoundy damaging.

505
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's interesting that you're treating patients by

506
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: actually just putting them more in the love frequency, so

507
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: then their own bodies can heal themselves.

508
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: Is that what you're removing the obstacle to the care

509
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: and what's not allowing them to get wrong?

510
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: Mentioned that you do teachings for just the regular folks

511
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: like us that aren't doctors. What would be the benefit

512
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: of us understanding people's faces?

513
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Know thyself? But really, when you know more, you can

514
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: be a difference. I had a patient, I had seen her,

515
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: worked with her, and she did well, and she came

516
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: back two years later, and she had aged twenty five

517
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: years in three years. In two years. I mean, she

518
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: just looked nothing, and she had all kinds of health issues,

519
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: immune problems, pains with like no fibermality, chronic fatigue syndrome,

520
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: which are terms that we don't know what it is,

521
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: but you're in a lot of pain and you're tired.

522
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: We just give it names so we could develop a drug.

523
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: And I said to her, you know what happened? She

524
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: said she was Mormon and her husband was a bishop,

525
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: which is top in that geographical area. Top guy ran

526
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: the show. My husband left me for his secretary, and

527
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: my life just and then collapsed. And so I'm looking

528
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: at her and her pupils were on level. Okay, okay,

529
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: And that's a sign that's been a traumatic brain injury.

530
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: That's one of the key indicators of a TBI traumatic

531
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: brain injury, concussion. I said to her, you've had a

532
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: traumatic brain injury. I said to her, you had an

533
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: emotional concussion. And she said what I And I remember thinking,

534
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: what just came out of my much?

535
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: You didn't even know.

536
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: I know I both of those words, and it's the

537
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: first time I ever used those words. A matter of fact,

538
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: I'm being encouraged to write another book called The Emotional Concussion. Yeah,

539
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: I'll be a hard pass on that, but I would

540
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: read it. Yeah, Well, I think the title of itself

541
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: I said, you've had trauma to your brain and you've

542
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: injured your brain, just as if you hit your hand

543
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: on the concrete, but it was an emotional concussion. And

544
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: I said, you've been diagnosed as depressed, right, and she's

545
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: I have. I said drugs didn't work, that they made

546
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: me feel worse. I said, you're not depressed, and she said, well,

547
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: doctor Todd, there you're wrong. Yeah, I get your comment.

548
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: But the D word that describes you as despair, there's hopelessness.

549
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: And I watched her eyes change in front of me,

550
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: and she got better that day in a consultation.

551
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Because it was acknowledged.

552
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Because she her brain understood I am not depressed. This

553
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: is despair. There's hopeless and the body said hopeless. Okay,

554
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: let me do some things. So I said, look, we'll

555
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: do a work up on you. I'll recommend some thing,

556
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: but I'm going to ask you. She was crying fatigue.

557
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: I said, IM want to ask you to walk ten

558
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: minutes a day, walk five minutes away from the house

559
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: and five minutes back. And I said, the moment you

560
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: feel you can walk ten minutes and then fifty, well,

561
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: it was like a miracle. And she reversed aging. Within

562
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: three months, she was a totally different person. She became

563
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: a very successful real estate ancient and choice was at home.

564
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: You know, she raised the kids a good Mormon wife

565
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: than she was. Yeah, that's not a slam. Motherhood is

566
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: the toughest profession in the world with no pay. So

567
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: how many guys would sign up for that? Not one?

568
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: I mean if men had babies, we'd have one. And

569
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: that I'm not doing that again, just like thanks for

570
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: no thing right. The female has a different take on that.

571
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: It was amazing to watch her heel. I did very

572
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: little for her other than made her brain aware that

573
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: an event that changed her. And it's just the power

574
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: of words are phenomenal and we just we don't respect

575
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: them enough both sides. We say hateful things in a

576
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: text that we would not say to someone's face, and

577
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: we say incredibly positive things one it's very important, so

578
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: we need to work on both ends that spectrum.

579
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Well, I always say on this podcast, I think one

580
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: of the biggest human needs is being seen, and so

581
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: that totally ties into that. Her brain, even our brains

582
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: are so fascinating how they are constantly trying to keep

583
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: us safe, absolutely.

584
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: And knowing face reading allowed me to be a better doctor,

585
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: because sure, you have some fire energy. I have very

586
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: narrowness to your face, which makes you very sensitive. So

587
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't do when you come in. Look, you've got

588
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: four things in trouble. You've got to jump on this

589
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, you'll stand there, but you're never

590
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: coming back. What I would say to you is, look,

591
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: you've got four things going on, but with your sensitivity,

592
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: we can't attack four things. We'll work in one area.

593
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: Normally I support this with two or three things, but

594
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: let's start with one thing, and let's let's do a

595
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: half dose just to respect your sensitivity. I'm always using

596
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: that word and a little tear comes out of the

597
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: corner and you think, oh my god, somebody finally understands

598
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: me and your bucket quality. I would go, look, i'm

599
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: giving you this, this fish oil, but you'll know that.

600
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: You got to know why I'm giving it to you. Yeah,

601
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: But the whole time, I'm patting your other back, because

602
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: we like a pad in the back. We right, I'll say, look,

603
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: there's two many things in fishial. One it's called EPA,

604
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: which is very cardio protected, and then there's DHA, which

605
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: is very cognitively protective as the bucket. I'm going to say, look,

606
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: this is higher in Dha because this is going to

607
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: help your brain think and work better. Well, you're all

608
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: in because now, of course, and if I'm talking to

609
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: your tree quality, which is your third face, tree face

610
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: is deeply rooting. You take the winds of life better

611
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 2: than any other. Face. Like to grow on your old

612
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: don't like to be trimmed back. But your gift to

613
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: mankind is ability to spread your branches and protect. You

614
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: make the best bosses, You make the best parent. I

615
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: wish every child had a tree face parent in their life. Now.

616
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 2: The problem I have with my female tree faces, they

617
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: were so into taking care of others they forgot to

618
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: take care of themselves. I would speak to you, I'd say, look,

619
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: you love helping others, don't you, Oh, doctor Todd, I do.

620
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: And I'd just quietly say, well what if you couldn't

621
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: do that? And then the tear comes out of the corner.

622
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: Well I have to cry right now, So I said.

623
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: How about we spend little time working on you. She

624
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: can do what God put you on this earth to

625
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: do with your intellect and your sensitivity. Isn't you so

626
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: you would be a tough patient to talk to because

627
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: I'd have to figure out which person I should talk to. Yeah,

628
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: three different faces that you.

629
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you mentioned that at the beginning of

630
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: the podcast you were talking about me, I thought that

631
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: is a general thing.

632
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, okay, you have three different faces?

633
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Fascinating. So most people have how many?

634
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: Like two?

635
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Okay? So is that why I have a hard time

636
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: understanding myself sometimes?

637
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, absolutely?

638
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

639
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: But really, in the perfect world, you'd have nine faces

640
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: one ninth of everything. Okay, nobody has that.

641
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Nobody has that.

642
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: Well.

643
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: So you also mentioned like the right and left side

644
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: being very different, right, and so one is masculine and

645
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: one is feminine.

646
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Speaker 2: Right, and how do you remember what's what? His mom's

647
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Speaker 2: always right. That's so the right side is because let's

648
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Speaker 2: face the moms are right, and it's really the right eye.

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Speaker 2: When I do this diagnosis, if you're watched any of

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Speaker 2: my videos, I'm always about what phase shape you are

651
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: and what your right eye left eye tell us about you.

652
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: So your right eye is what you show to the world,

653
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: is your public persona, it's what you want. The rule

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Speaker 2: is see energetic, you're throwing so much any out there.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can see the left side, and it's your mother's influence.

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Speaker 2: The left side is your true, inner, private self, and

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Speaker 2: it's your father's influence. The number of females that I

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00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: see that have a deep line underneath their left eye

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Speaker 2: and it just crosses their cheekbone. That's in adrenaline. It's

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: stressed for me. And they got puffiness in their upper eyelid,

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Speaker 2: only not in the right, only in the that's the

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00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: gallbletder gall better. They don't digest fats their products. But

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00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: the emotion of the gall buttter's anger. It's internalized anger

664
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Speaker 2: and has to do with the male. It's uncomfortable and unnerving.

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Speaker 2: How often I see that on a female?

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Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest lesson you've learned from

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Speaker 1: reading faces is we all have a story.

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Speaker 2: You got a story, I get a story. My story

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Speaker 2: is my first two children ied. Little girl named Katie

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Speaker 2: lived about twenty minutes, didn't breathe and didn't survive. My

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00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: son Brady was born. I was in my medical training,

672
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: also didn't breathe lived five months of your brain damage

673
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Speaker 2: and died in their arms. So brutal, you know. I

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Speaker 2: had three children after that. Casey, my beautiful daughter, my

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Speaker 2: son Toby Casey. For sure we would have had Toby

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Speaker 2: odds are yes. But my co author of the book,

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Speaker 2: my beautiful daughter Abby, she wouldn't have been on this earth. Now.

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Speaker 2: In our book, we have vertical life lessons and lifeless

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Speaker 2: Number eight is facial diagnosis changes how you see people.

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Speaker 2: This is the answer to your question. We've been I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna read it's very short. We've been reading faces for

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Speaker 2: total of nearly forty years and we have studied hundreds

683
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: of face while writing this book, trying to find the

684
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: perfect example of each face, a shape, and feature. We

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00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: can't even count the number of times we uttered one

686
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: a wonderful face. And these are the words that would

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Speaker 2: have never come out of this earth. And something fantastic

688
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: about learning to read faces as you stop looking at

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Speaker 2: people as more or less pretty. When you learn to

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00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: read faces, every person becomes a beautiful, unique individual. To

691
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: see strength is inspiring and motivating. Seeing weaknesses increases awareness

692
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: and empathy and helps you become more kind. Facial diagnosis

693
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Speaker 2: doesn't help you to become a better doctor. It helps

694
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Speaker 2: me become a better person. So those words would have

695
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: never ended up on the pages of a book. I

696
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: had my first two children not had the and they lived.

697
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: So you know, we all got a story, and everybody's

698
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Speaker 2: story would just make us all shake our heads like,

699
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Speaker 2: well I could not have handled that. And yet we

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Speaker 2: all do, you know, and we make choices. And I

701
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 2: remember having my acupuncture mentor a brilliant man, just doctor

702
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Speaker 2: Richard Yanny. I love this man. I was a young doctor.

703
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: I was young and brilliant. Let me say it that way,

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Speaker 2: only one of those adjectives. He said, looking, you go

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: through three phases in your career. And he said the

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Speaker 2: first phase is survival, and I go, yeah, I can

707
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: read it that. You know, this was the Mercedes eighties,

708
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: by the way, everybody was into how much you made

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Speaker 2: in what cars you were driving. And the first face

710
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: is survival, and I thought, yeah, I'm in that survival.

711
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: You don't come out of the shoot successful as a position.

712
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: You've got to own your trade. You got to get people,

713
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: you got to make a difference in their life, and

714
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 2: then they refer and you build a practice. And he said,

715
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: now the second phase is going to go through his success.

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Speaker 2: This is during the Mercedes eighties. What's better than success?

717
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: To which I thought that exact thought that I was

718
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Speaker 2: probably twenty eight years old at the time. I'm seventy

719
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Speaker 2: two now. And he just let this pregnant pause lay

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Speaker 2: there and he says, you're all wondering what is better

721
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: than success? And he says and then the word is significance.

722
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Speaker 2: I've been successful, and I've known many very successful people.

723
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Speaker 2: I've known many successful people that were miserable, sobs, that

724
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Speaker 2: were disgusting, hateful future humans. I've never met anyone of

725
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: significance that didn't have a depth of joy that was palpable.

726
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: And so, look, I've been successful. It's nice, got more things,

727
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: but I'd rather be significant. I love that that is that.

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Speaker 1: To me, I can't say anything to even top that.

729
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: So I'm going to end the podcast on that because

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Speaker 1: that this got way more spiritual than I even anticipated.

731
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Speaker 1: But this was exactly what this I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what this podcast is about. So I

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Speaker 1: really I just so appreciate you sharing your knowledge with

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Speaker 1: us but also your heart, because that was that's so

735
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Speaker 1: in line with what we do here on this podcast,

736
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Speaker 1: and I just wish more of us could connect this way,

737
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Speaker 1: because that's why we're all here in my opinion. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to put the link to this book that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned. It's called WTF Why the Face? A Practical

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00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: Guide to Understanding health and personality through facial Diagnosis, and

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Speaker 1: also the link to where people can come have a

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00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: reading with you if they want to do that. And you, guys,

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Speaker 1: it is fascinating. You know that I love stuff like this,

744
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: but I really did learn a lot about myself and

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00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: even just some of the things I need to look

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Speaker 1: out for in my life. So I'll put all of

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Speaker 1: that in a scription of this podcast for you, guys,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Todd, thank you so much for.

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Speaker 2: Being for us, absolutely lovely. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was an Thank you guys so much for listening.

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