1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented Danny Polumbo. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: That's some fun with it. It's me Danny Polumbo a K. 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: A Pecorino Marino, a K. Tony Rickett TONI here is 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: I got pastises. I know those are great, man, Let 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: them know. What do you this one for far Fall? 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Well we can name another one. Yeah, bow tie pasta? 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, right, anyway, listen new Man, that 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: man just chilling, just doing all the call the credits 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: that y'all mentioned. That's the first time somebody mentioned every 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: single thing I've done before. That was it. I was like, 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I was impressed by all of them. I don't normally 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: do the whole list, but those are all dope. Well 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I needed it because I don't have the one knockout. 18 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: That's like you've seen him on Conan, you know what 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, All of those to come together to make 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: a mighty fist Daniel I knockout blow, yeah, if you will, 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: A check swing that gets called strike. Yeah. I just 22 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: I feel for the Giants fans. It was like a 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: magical season. They were the it came out of nowhere 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: to have the best record in baseball. And then yeah, 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was during the game. I was turning 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: to my dad is in town, so it was fun 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: watching watching baseball with the old man, and I just 28 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: kept turning to him, being like, you believe we're getting 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are getting some calls here, and then they 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: got the ultimate call that that put them on through 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: to the next round and a check swing that wasn't 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: a they called it. Yeah. I felt for everyone, even 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: like when whether we were at bad or the Giants 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: were at bat, You're like, fun, dude, every single throws 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: like mattering right now and like a fucking like a 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: strike three called. Just was just like felt like, oh 37 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: my god, how are you going to come back from everything? 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: The stakes? But that's what I love about this time 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: of year in baseball, that the stakes are at their highest. 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Mostly I felt for forty Yeah you mean Corey Booker, 41 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Yes, most recently 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I searched how soon can I start packing before a move? 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: And this this tells you a few major things about me. One, 44 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: most obviously, he tells you that I'm I'm moving in 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: the future. It is at the time of recording, it's 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: October eighteen. I'm not moving until December thirty one. It's 47 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: it's very far out there. And so this also tells 48 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: you I'm not planning on anything resembling like an in 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: home social life for the next several months. I've written 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: on my future like it's gonna be just boxes and 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: nowhere to sit for a while. And most tellingly, I 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: think it's it reminds everyone that I'm even in my 53 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: mid thirties, I'm still very focused on, like what is 54 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: the normal way to go about doing things? I want 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: to make sure, even if I don't follow it, I 56 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: want to be aware of what it is. So that's 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: like Google is is my non judgmental friend, where I 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: could just go like, what's a normal way for a 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: human to move? And then it tells me like, okay, good, 60 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: it's good to know. It's a Google suggests, by the way, 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: two to three weeks before the move, which is not 62 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: what I'm I'm in sufficient Google now, Yeah, I'm getting Yeah, 63 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting severe. Doesn't sleep the night before a flighty 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: vibes from you, like just kind of pack some repacks. Yeah, 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: that's smart. It's better than the alternative which I have 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: engaged in many times, which is just kind of throwing 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: everything into a garbage back. Yeah. Yeah, and then throw 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: that in the back of the U haul. Yeah. Those 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: first moves in or right after college is when you're 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: like just packing up the construction bags. You're like boxes. No, man, 71 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I'll put all these books and pans in a garbage 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: bag and throw them into trunk. Yeah, and the amount 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: of things when I left l A for New York, 74 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it was a very quick move, and there are so 75 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: many things that I'm like, then I'll just go without 76 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: a calendar and I throw it out, like things that 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I would sooner get rid of than like bother finding 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: a new box for it. And then as soon as 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: I am in my new place and I'm boiling water, 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: ship out a calendar. Yeah. Did you try the thing 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: where you just like break the cap or the lid 82 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: of the thing very slightly and then dump still dump 83 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: half the pasta out. That's the head. Yeah, cracking the lid, 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: but it's completely insufficient. Team creeps out and burns the 85 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: part of your hand and then you let go and 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: it's on the sink, and like god, just the fucking failure. 87 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Fortunately there are sweatshirts for that. Just today is we 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: forgot to mention up top National Seafood bisk Day, just 89 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: to let everybody. Oh, and that's what we're celebrating today. 90 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: Is that October eighteenth or nine? You know we're recording 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: it then, but it's look a little peek behind the curtain. Sorry, 92 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: as we celebrate this, it will be National Seafood bisk Day. Uh. 93 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: And you did mention it was October? Is that? Is 94 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: that a do you do you celebrate? Are you an 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: observer of October? I I don't really care for Halloween. 96 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: It's not like a big holiday for me. But anytime 97 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: someone says October very academically correcting them to October is 98 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: very fun to me. I really enjoy that October. Wait, 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: is there something? Is that a real thing or that's 100 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: just a colloquialism for just because it's spooky October we 101 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: call it October or is there like an actual phenomenon 102 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: of missing out? Not that I know. If I think 103 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that was like October at 104 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: not not very Farm whatever, which they really funked up 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: with the naming of that because it just sounds like 106 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: it's any other day at not Sparry Farm, which is 107 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: not scary, yes, but it sounds like bass. What is 108 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Okay, controversial? I feel like 109 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: going out in your twenties like that, who all of 110 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the going out in your twenties is overrated, Like you 111 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have an awesome night, and then and 112 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: then like as I get older and now I don't 113 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: go out like go out anymore, you know, like go 114 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: to clubs and bars anymore? Really, and I like I realized, 115 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: like how over it is. I wait in line, I 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: get dressed, especially if you're single, you go with a 117 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: bunch of guys, you get embarrassed by the bounce before 118 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: you get in. You spend on the beer. Yeah, and 119 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: then like you spend eighteen dollars on a beer, You 120 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: try to talk to one girl, she says there's no 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: Then you're embarrassed talk to the rest of the rest 122 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: of the night, and then you sit listen a lot 123 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: of music. You can't talk the booth sucks, you don't 124 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: have a table, It just sucks. Like you go home 125 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: and then you're like, that was dope, right. That was 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: a wild night, you know. It wasn't why we stood 127 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: around in a corner. Nobody danced. There was just and 128 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: if you guys, I'm getting tired, Can you go home 129 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: so I could put on some joker makeup and record 130 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: some TikTok's right up? So what I like to do. 131 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I can shut down at the bar, I get on 132 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: my joker at home. It's I just feel like I 133 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: look back now, and I was reminded of this when 134 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I saw the movie Sorry to Bother You, and like, 135 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: if remember that he goes to like this back like 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: v I p Entrance and he has no fun and 137 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: like he's sitting in the shitty booth and the drink 138 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: sucks and the people are is no fun at all. 139 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: And then he comes out and there like how was it? 140 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: And he was like it was dope, right, And it's 141 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: like that's what we're I feel like that's what we're 142 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: supposed to say because we spent so much money and 143 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: so much time, is so much ever doing this thing, 144 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: But I feel like all that going on in your 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: twenties when you're in your thirties is like overrated. Wow, 146 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: we gotta acknowledge you gotta you gotta cat in the background, 147 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry the cat is going crazy because it's good. No, 148 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I have cats too, And I'm like, it's because and 149 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: I know why, because I came out the room and 150 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: came right upstairs to do this podcast. So I have 151 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: completely ignored her. And so she is downstairs knocking everything 152 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: down off the table, liked and ship, She's batting pats around, 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: she's knocking computer chargers off, She's just knocking everything she 154 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: can do. You think that in the in that time though, 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: right Like, I'm trying to think of what the value 156 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: is because I certainly didn't learn much when I was 157 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: going out. I learned what were of like my physical 158 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: ability to consume like alcohol and drugs, but I wasn't like, man, 159 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: I learned a lesson tonight at the club, y'all. Yeah, 160 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: I feel like just the loud music in particular makes 161 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: it impossible to come municate. And then it's just a 162 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: weird It's like a weird psychological psychological experiment because you 163 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: just like are purely like you can't even really think 164 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: you can't talk to other people. I think the the 165 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: loud music is designed to make you just drink more. 166 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, I always after a while, 167 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: I just started finding places that didn't play loud music 168 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: between yeah, yeah, more fun house parties with places they'll 169 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: play on music. I like that stuff now even. You know. 170 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: What's also interesting is like I'm not a tall guy, right, 171 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: and so most men are taller than me, and then 172 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: most women when they go out where heels that make 173 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: them taller than me. So when I go into a 174 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: place and I'm like, damn, I'm the shortest person in here, 175 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Like that's also a weird It's not, it's not, it's 176 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: not a great feeling. It's just like I'm like, man, like, 177 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: but you have more to offer than your hype aside, 178 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, I know, but like I don't look at 179 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: you and go look at that man who's a short 180 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: The world of of people in their twenties don't often 181 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: care about Oh no, absolutely toxic. That's why. Like the 182 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: thing about the club is like when I go, when 183 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I look back and think about what my whole vibe 184 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: was in there is so performative. It was like, yeah, 185 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: I put me I'm up being here. Yeah, I'm in 186 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: this section. Okay, yeah, exactly, sending the last three dollars 187 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: on my debit card exactly like ball out and maybe overdraft, 188 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna tell nobody in here. Remember in 189 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: my twenties in Chicago, worked at a club and he 190 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: was like, he was like, do you know how many 191 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: rental car keys there are in the back, like like 192 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: the valet. He was like, people are renting cars for 193 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: the weeks to pull up, just to like pull up 194 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: and like their He's like, you know, they rent a car, 195 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: they go pick up, pick up their their lady. They 196 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: put on the thing. When it's like it's all fake. 197 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: They're like, why do you have that big old chunky 198 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Hurts navigation system both into your dashboards? You're like, I 199 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think somebody trying to thank me. 200 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: I see my my cat has been quiet now that 201 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm and giving her attention. Yeah, what's your cat's name? 202 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: This is Gianna gig Bryant, named after Kobe's daughter, who 203 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: passed the same week that she passed. Yeah. Yeah, I 204 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: feel like it's just you know, you have the thoughts 205 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: stopping with the music, you have, Like everybody's just trying 206 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: to behave like other people, so they're blending in. It's 207 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: like it's like military training in there. Everyone's just trying 208 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to Actually, I don't mean to say and learn anything, 209 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: because I learned very quickly that performative swag, vibes and 210 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: ship was not for me and was actually like so 211 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: empty because it kind of takes that thing where like 212 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: when you're younger and you you sort of you covet 213 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: the club. I wanna be there. I want to be 214 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: exactly and I can't wait to be up in it. 215 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this ship my way. Then you go 216 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, this is fucking not for me. Kind 217 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: of very quickly begin to learn. So yeah, I learned 218 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: who I was thanks to its privilege. It's amazing to like, 219 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: it's amazing to like think about what I enjoy that 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I look forward to now, Like I look forward to 221 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: coming home, cooking the meal, watching the Netflix show that 222 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking for, you know what I mean, Like I 223 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: look forward to it that I would have in my twenties. 224 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I can't wait to go to this 225 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: club that I'm gonna wait in line for forty five 226 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: minutes in the cold before the dude left me in 227 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: so that so that so I can stand in a 228 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: corner and not talk to anybody, Right, what is something 229 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: you think is underrated? The national parks of this beautiful country. 230 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I think I've probably gone on about this on this 231 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: show before, but we just had a friend get married 232 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: in Yosemite, and Dude, as easy as it is to 233 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: like hate America right now and what it stands for, 234 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: just go look at it, dude. It's so beautiful and honestly, like, 235 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: I know, fans of this show are probably fans of 236 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: progressive politics, or you just listen to get really angry 237 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: about progressive politics. But national parks are progressive politics done well. 238 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: It's perfect, man and like and honestly just fuels my soul. Dude, 239 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I've been like going and it got me through the 240 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: pandemic and um yeah, we were in Yosemite and we 241 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: went on the hetch Hetchi Hike, which is the reservoir 242 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: that gives San Francisco all its drinking water, and it 243 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: was just dope, man, like, just learning about the attitudes 244 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: of this country and how they've shifted. So like hege 245 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Hetchi was used to be a valley and then they 246 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: flooded it after the San Francisco fires. None of this 247 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: I knew before this wedding, by the way. So San Francisco, 248 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: there was like a huge public debate, and at the 249 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: Times early nine hundreds, the prevailing public opinion was that 250 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: the wilderness is something to be conquered, very like manifest 251 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: destiny sort of attitude, like it's us versus nature, Right, 252 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: we gotta go conquer that ship and show who's the boss, 253 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: who's the king of the fucking world, and right up 254 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: all the rivers and lakes, and then turn the things 255 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: that aren't rivers and lakes into rivers and lakes. That's right, 256 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: just just because we came because like man, yeah, we 257 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta gentrify the woods and you know, make 258 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,599 Speaker 1: the deer go find somewhere else to live, exactly. And 259 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: so but then there was this guy JOm wir m 260 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: u I R And I just read it, yeah, and 261 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: he like he was all about it, early preservationist, you 262 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And like they kind of reached 263 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: this compromise with because San Francisco burned down and they 264 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: were like, bro, we need water, and so they kind 265 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: of like work together to create this situation that worked 266 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: well for nature and for people. And I was just 267 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: so fascinated, man. And by the end, I was like, 268 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: I honestly needed to hear about a time where people 269 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: like came together and solved a problem. And you know 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, So I just had National parks. You 271 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: gotta take advantage, man, everyone. We we did so much 272 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: work in the like New New Deal era, like the 273 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: one time that America was able to like consolidate behind 274 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: progressive and you know, socialist ideals, and we're just coasting 275 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: off of that ship like ever since and like slowly 276 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: undoing that aggress Yeah, man, And it's just like it's 277 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: the ship that like it should be bipartisan, you know 278 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I've been in national parks and 279 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: seeing dudes and maga hats walking around, and I'm just like, so, 280 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I know you love this, but you know that the 281 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: guy he wants to drill this for or you know 282 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: that right that's not here. Be well, that's also a 283 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: national park in money, man, play drilling spots. That's what 284 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: they're doing there. Yeah. Yeah, I love the idea of 285 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: a Republican who goes to Sedona to heal on the 286 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: vortexas like, who's that guy? Who is this cross section 287 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: of humanity Kirsten Cinema. Yeah, yeah, libertarians you have? Have 288 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: you been in the Mirrorwoods in Mill Valley? No? But 289 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: now and out of obviously is named after him. Right. 290 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Where is the Daddy John your Mill Valley up in 291 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: the Bay Area? No, okay, I gotta do that. That 292 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: will be next to I love it up there, man, Yeah, 293 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: they area. Yeah, you're overrated and underrated or sort of 294 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: a cross purposes because I feel like a lot of 295 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: the good park space in a lot of the cities 296 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: around the country are golf course right that we need 297 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: to invade and just claim as as parks that we 298 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: can use. This is I bring it up a lot. 299 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: It's from Malcolm Gladwell podcast, but it's like the one 300 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Gladwell idea that I was like, fuck, yeah, man, how 301 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: how many tax breaks are we giving these plays? What 302 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: we're playing them to keep a part like a bunch 303 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: of the best land in the middle of the city 304 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: as a private thing that we're not allowed to go into, 305 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Like that's that's the deal that we got. So yeah, 306 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: but I won't I won't tell your golf course buddies 307 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: that he said that ship because I mean, I'll be honest, 308 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: look at me, dude. They know they know, they know, 309 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: they know I'm a mole. I can tell the way 310 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: I look out at the green. I'm like, you know, 311 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: we could really plant some beautiful acorn bearing oak trees. 312 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: What if we rewilded this space? Yeah, I look like 313 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: a guy who lived where they built the golf course. 314 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: And I'm coming out this is right right. You can't 315 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: put on pants goofy enough to make them trust you. 316 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: But like, oh, those are cool golf spikes. Can you 317 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: what do you call those stocks? Pretty? I call them 318 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: yuffy stompers called? Do you even know whose ancestral land? 319 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: This is me a white man emphasis on the age 320 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: and white. All right, let's take a quick break and 321 00:17:51,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. And we're back, and we're riding 322 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: the roller coaster of Danielle's relationship with her cats. Apparently 323 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: they're they're causing all sorts of havoc. My guests, they 324 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: know that it's national Make a Dog's Day Day. But 325 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: taking back to power, Yeah, taking back the power. They're 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: like fun this. Alright, let's let's get into the the 327 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: third announcement from Donald Trump about how he's going to 328 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: change the landscape of media. He has announced Trump Media 329 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: Technology Group because he believes he can take down big 330 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: tech by creating a worse product that can't compete at 331 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: all with Netflix, Twitter, and even a company called I 332 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Heart Media. He's coming for us, coming for us media. 333 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: I haven't, but somehow this man has. And yeah, he 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: also thinks he can go after Amazon's cloud service and 335 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: like Stripe for like payments and stuff. This is all 336 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: because he thinks that he can create like essentially an 337 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: uncancellable Internet infrastructure. So if no matter how racist or 338 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: vile you are, they can't say, like, well, we're gonna 339 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: take this hosting service away from him, or we're gonna 340 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: take this way of processing payments away from you, because 341 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: he'll have his own versions and that will shield them 342 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: from any kind of real scrutiny or criticism. But the 343 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: big one I think that was announced today was the 344 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: Truth social platform. So get ready, let's just give a 345 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: real quick background on like his So this is the 346 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: third in a series. First, it was from the desk 347 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: of where he would be issuing communications to publish, straight 348 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: from the desk of Donald Trump, and it was a blog, 349 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: and like he just didn't maybe he hadn't heard of 350 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: those and he thought he was inventing them, but that 351 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: that barely got any attention, and so that went away. 352 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: In July, this is what I didn't even know about. 353 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: He quietly launched a new social media platform called get term, 354 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: which really should be the name of Larry the cable 355 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Guy platform, but he went for it G E T 356 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: t R and that apparently fell apart, which you know, 357 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: he's taking a lot of swings. He's just letting, letting loose. 358 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: And now he's announced his third an app dubbed Truth 359 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: because yeah, that the he he wants. He thinks that 360 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: the truth is. I don't know. This is pretty in 361 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: line with his overall strategy of like naming things the 362 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: exact opposite of what they are. Yeah, right, like saying 363 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: he's a president rather than a despotic fucking in Is 364 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump the president? It depends on which news channel 365 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: you watch, because there seemed to be competing narratives. But 366 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: like with the truth thing, predictably right posting to the 367 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: site will be called true thing, and fucking each end 368 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: visual post will be known as a truth. So I 369 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: get that they're fully trying to take any meaning out 370 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: of that word truth by being like, yeah, I read 371 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: truth to that truth from earlier. Who's your favorite truth? 372 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Or oh yeah, let me some good accounts for some 373 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: funny truths to follow On truth Social, he has trademarked 374 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: the term truth thing and re truth, which is pretty cool. Uh, 375 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: you'd you'd hope that it would be something a little 376 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: bit more interesting than that. But of course this this 377 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: makes sense because you say absolutely lie and you call 378 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: it your truth. Yeah, shockingly, I know this is gonna 379 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: hold unto your butts everyone. The project launched a beta 380 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: and people took a look a little behind the curtains, 381 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: and it was seemingly done as cheaply and lazily as possible. 382 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: The site's code is a quote mostly unmodified version of Mastodon, 383 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: which is an open source software launched in twice sixteen 384 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: and also a bad that's very cool, yes, but anyone 385 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: can use this like I could use this to launch 386 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: my own social networking site. That's basically what they did. 387 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: They just took that open source software, didn't even make 388 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: any modifications to it, so it was extremely easy for 389 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: people to immediately hack into although you didn't really need 390 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: to hack into it. They launched the beta and people 391 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: could immediately just sign up for accounts with the handles 392 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: at Donald Trump and at Mike Pence and at Donald J. Trump. 393 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: So somebody got that one and immediately posted a photo 394 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: of a pig defecating on its testicles. Yep, that old 395 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: that old twitters. I, um, I kind of hate that, 396 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: but I love it, but I hate it. Well, it's 397 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: just kind of they've nailed the perfect visual metaphor for 398 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: what is happening here. Yeah, and it's been a common 399 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: sort of troll reply on Twitter too for just like 400 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: just spamming threads with that image because people like don't 401 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: want to get it off here. But yeah, the it's 402 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: clear that like everything just not much stop put into it. 403 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: It's really about the I guess the optics of saying 404 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: like this is what I'm gonna do, and this is 405 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: when it's coming out. There might be a beta open 406 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: for some people like at the like sort of end 407 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: of the year, but the plans are that this thing 408 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: is launching in But there's also like really weird guidelines 409 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: within the website to like the slides about like the 410 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: sort of presentation of the website, Like it's a big tent. 411 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: It's for everyone. Liberals, conservatives, independence can all come through. 412 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: But then there's like this fine print that's like truth 413 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: can like revoke and deactivate your account for any reason 414 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: without you knowing, without you have, without even us having 415 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: to explain. So I don't talk shit on here. You're 416 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: going you're literally prohibited from disparaging the site or and 417 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: this is a quote annoying the site's employees. Yeah, there 418 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: was a tune on S and L that they took 419 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: down that was basically like about how Disney owned everything. 420 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: Like this graphic reminds me of that cartoon. Yeah, just 421 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: with all the other brands there. Yeah, and just taking 422 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: everything over. The graphicing question has t MTG with like 423 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: a line to truth social verses, and then it's like Twitter, Facebook, 424 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: and then in a separate like media content production section, 425 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: it's tmt G Plus, which competes with Netflix and Disney Plus. 426 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how they get the plus is brilliant, 427 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: like Disney Plus, Oh ship come on to go along 428 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: with fucking Trump flicks, you know, an HBO maga. Yeah, 429 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: that's pretty good at they should have done that. TMTG 430 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: News is the one that's coming for our ass for 431 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: I heeart and CNN. That's kind of a flex shadow. 432 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I think because purely all this, all of 433 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: these things are just pointing out or like sort of 434 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: superlatives like within a given industry. So it's like, if 435 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: it's streaming, you're gonna put the streaming people there. And 436 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: if it's radio or podcasting, then if they're they're mentioning 437 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: this bigheamoth company. So yeah, it's a we look forward 438 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: to your network, although I feel like they're already out there. 439 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: The long term Opportunity t MTG tech stack, which just 440 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: sounds like some words they made up and put in 441 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: front of him that He was like, nice, I love 442 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: a text. Yeah. Yeah, like you said, they're coming for 443 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: Amazon Cloud computing, uh in Google Cloud, so you know 444 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: they got big big pet code for your platform. No, no, 445 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: I just ripped off masted on. Okay, so some real 446 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: pioneering type should happening over here. Good to know. Yeah, alright, 447 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk about just a little bit of 448 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: news around the green energy possibilities how we could possibly 449 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: fight climate change make the world a little bit more sustainable. 450 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: So you know, as Congress debated last week whether to 451 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: pair down the Biden administration's climate proposals UH and spoiler alert, 452 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: they did. New research has suggested doing so would create 453 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: far fewer jobs if you if you paired it down 454 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: and just kept going with fossil fuel, kept doubling down. 455 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: For every million dollars the US government invests, solar produces 456 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 1: over two point seven times more jobs than fossil fuels. 457 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: We're doing an analysis from to environmental think tanks and 458 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: labor unions. Wind energy spurs over two point eight times 459 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: more jobs than the investments in oil, gas and coal. 460 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: Retro Filling buildings to be more energy efficient creates demand 461 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: for nearly three times as many jobs. So these are 462 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not a issue of well, you know, fossil 463 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: fuels is like the thing that's good for the economy. 464 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: The only excuse that they have for continuing to double 465 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: down on fossil fuels is that fossil fuels have the 466 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: money and therefore the inertia to um keep them moving 467 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: in the same direction they've been moving in for Essentially, 468 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: it's just wild that this analysis just negates any argument 469 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: that would come out of this lobbying side of being like, well, 470 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: then what happens all these people's jobs? Man, if you 471 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: get rid of coal, then what happens? And you're like, yeah, 472 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: there's actually there. Even if those people fucking cleaved themselves 473 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: like a cell and turned into two people, that person 474 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: would also have a job. That's how lucrative and how 475 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: much opportunity is there because we have a massive undertaking 476 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: to change the energy mix. Yeah, and we actually have 477 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: a like specific example of you know, a way, a 478 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: way that we could be changing things and helping the 479 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 1: environment and helping economies. But before we get to that, uh, 480 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Danielle's Internet just went out unfortunately, and you know, we're 481 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: hoping that she is able to get back in here, 482 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: but always wonderful having Danielle. Hopefully it comes back. She's 483 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: working on getting back on as we speak. Were momentarily 484 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: if all, we're hoping to be rejoined. But this is 485 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: the miles and I are full of enough hot air 486 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: to uh push this thing through to the real wind bag, 487 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: am I? Right? All right? Let's let's talk really briefly 488 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: about the dependency ratio, just because I think it continues 489 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: to be one of the most underrated kind of forces 490 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: or explanations in kind of macro economics in the modern world. 491 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: There's a story in the New York Times about how 492 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: China's economy has continued to slow, and it like focuses 493 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: on steel mills facing our cuts and computer chip shortages 494 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: and you know, troubled property companies. There's like a big 495 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: real estate kind of meltdown happening in China. But it 496 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: doesn't mention anywhere. This thing that I always I come 497 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: back to, like this is on par with the British 498 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: cold gas study and Tom Hanks peeing in every movie 499 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: is like a thing I I just bring up at 500 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: every opportunity that I get. But yeah, and Havana syndrome 501 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: as well. But it's basically like you put working age 502 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: people on one side of a scale, you put people 503 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: who are too young or too old to work on 504 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: the other side. And the more that the working age 505 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: people outweigh the other people the dependence which is called 506 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: what it's called the dependency ratio, the stronger the economy 507 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: like tends to perform over over a long period of time. 508 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: And if you like, this basically explains the twentieth century, 509 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: Like the US is like unprecedented baby boom was working 510 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: its way through working age during when America's like economy 511 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: really took off, and now that they're all hitting retirement age, 512 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: it's starting to slow down. And China like is a 513 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: really interesting example of this, because they did the one 514 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: child experiment, Like their one child policy was basically a 515 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: way to kind of force a really favorable dependency ratio 516 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: by sort of artificially shrinking the number of dependents. And 517 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: so they had this huge population of people who are 518 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: going through working age and then much smaller dependent and 519 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: can be seen as fueling their massive economic growth. But 520 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: now that big like chunk of working age people is 521 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: hitting retirement. So it's like, as I'm trying to explain it, 522 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see why it's not raised that much 523 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: because it's kind of boring. But I think it's also 524 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: like it takes some of the agents and like heroism 525 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: and like the sort of like deserving out of America's 526 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: economic success, and particularly the economic success of the baby boomers. 527 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Like the idea that they're just like a lucky demographic 528 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: cohort is probably like something that baby boomers are allergic to, 529 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: and they're you know, still even though the medium population 530 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: of America's thirty eight. I think if you like look 531 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: at the median population of powerful people in the country, 532 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: it's probably squarely in the heart of like the baby 533 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: boomer set. And I just feel like that generation's entire 534 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: worldview wants to believe that they are special and better 535 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: than everyone and earned their financial success broadly, yeah, just 536 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: broadly speaking, because we know we don't. I love when 537 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: the boomers again come in they're like, I'm not like 538 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: the other boomers are like, I mean a terrible show 539 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: right way, but yeah, I mean. And then I also think, 540 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: like just the one child policy is a very like 541 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, it is one of the strangest or 542 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: like most kind of inexplicable policies. If you just totally 543 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: take the dependency ratio out of the equation, it's just 544 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: and and I feel like we never really think about 545 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: like why they did that or how it relates to 546 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: their financial success. It just means that. So what one 547 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: detail that kind of jumped out at me other than 548 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: like I think it like there's a relationship between like 549 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: America's like white supremacy and their ability to just be 550 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: like a China doing the one child policy. That's weird. 551 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: They're weird. Just like not think about it any further. 552 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: It also relates to immigration policy because US, like, one 553 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: of the main forces that is keeping the US media 554 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: age like and dependency ratio in a good place is 555 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: the you know, massive immigration or you know, the urge 556 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: for immigration that the GOP like wants to wants to 557 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: fight against. And it just seems coincidental or not coincidental 558 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: that the people who are like the most like baby 559 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: boomer as the pop party, the GOP wants to like 560 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: fight against immigration, and they're also the ones who would 561 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: like most want to ignore the financial realities of like 562 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: the dependency ratio being the reason that they have their success. 563 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: But that's kind of one of the reasons that people 564 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: think that the dependency ratio is going to hit China 565 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: harder than the US is by fifty Like the US 566 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: is population is supposed to you know, grow by quite 567 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: a bit because of the dependency ratio, and China is 568 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: supposed to shrink because of people are more likely to 569 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: leave the country than want to come there. So that's 570 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: that story, m hm. And that's all I have to 571 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: say about that. And one child policy base level we 572 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: agree is a bad idea, yes, okay, alright, yes, yes, yes, yes, 573 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: because where you're like and there's one one child policy 574 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: and then there was a long pause and then you 575 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: landed on so strange. It's like, yeah, it's strange. Keep 576 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: going though, Yeah, very quirky. Yeah they were, but I 577 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: don't want to say authoritarian. Uh just just four things 578 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,479 Speaker 1: like what were they Yeah, yeah, they were really looking 579 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: at that though, huh give it up. No, yeah, it's 580 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: I think it's funny too, because there's for all, immigration 581 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: is such the one of these issues in the country 582 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: where there's there's it's like it's it's looked at, it's 583 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: like it's it's the end of the country. But no 584 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: one acknowledges that so many of the great things about 585 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: about this place is that it's because of people coming 586 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: here from different place is whether that's just the opportunity 587 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: it provides or you know, cuisine. I think a lot 588 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: of people, I think for a lot of people are 589 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: like man fulk immigrants realized a lot of the food 590 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: you're eating that you even think as American is because 591 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: of this melting pot that the United States became. And 592 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: then also on top of it, the everyone I think 593 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: that's the other part they don't talk about is the 594 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: financial aspect for people who are so focused on like 595 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: the economy of it all, Like if you were just 596 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: actually playing with facts and figures, like, no, okay, yeah 597 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: this we can handle more people being here. But it's 598 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: also this fear of a brown or not so alabashed 599 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: or white America that fears a lot of it drives 600 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: a lot of the fear around it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. 601 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: And just in relation to World War Two, like I think, Miles, 602 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: cover your ears. Yeah, that spoiler alert. The fact that 603 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: the US had this massive population boom and generation you know, 604 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: the baby boom that drove their financial success. Well, and 605 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: we were just like and we took credit for winning 606 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: World War Two, while Russia, who actually like you know, 607 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: all their working age people like died in World War 608 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Two while actually doing a lot of the you know, 609 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: horrible work that was required to win. That is also 610 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: a pretty big, you know reason that the US ended 611 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: up winning the Cold War or at least like outlasting 612 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: the USS are. But again, not not the sort of 613 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: thing that people in the US want to acknowledge, especially 614 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: in like the mainstream media. Yeah, Miles, you can start listening. 615 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: I guess, all right, what happened. I'm just watching that 616 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: movie Enemy at the Gates with Jude Law. I hope 617 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't spoil anything. I feel like it was only 618 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: like recently, like in the last couple of years, or 619 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: like someone on TV was like, no, we only won 620 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,359 Speaker 1: the war, becausn't Russia? You know that, right, and people 621 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: exactly like it was. It was as if people like 622 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: it was anathema to everyone's like, oh my god, what 623 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: does this person say that is a historian that is 624 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: acknowledging what happened on the Eastern Front. Okay, but yeah, 625 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's it's still built. It's part of 626 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: our idea that uh, yeah, we dropped bomb, people gave up, 627 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: we'll beat Hitler good night. Yeah, m hm. Yeah. It's 628 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: crazy that all those boomers helps Russia win the war. 629 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: Russia never would have done it if the boomers hadn't 630 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: just told them, go ahead and do it please, right, 631 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: hit after hit from that generation. All right, let's take 632 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back to talk 633 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: about Jesus Ween and we're back and let's talk Netflix. 634 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: The CEO Ted Serrandos has been in a bit of 635 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: a ship storm since last week, as he just like 636 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: kind of continues to completely fumble the backlash against Dave 637 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: Chappelle's just horribly transphobic BS special The Closer. So Surrandos 638 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: kick things off by essentially saying that Netflix pushes boundaries 639 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: and the comedy does. Man. Yeah, ended up like they 640 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 1: had a conflict with a trans employee who was unhappy 641 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: with their employer's actions and suspended and then unsuspended that employee. 642 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, I had nothing to do with that. 643 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: We just suspend people. It was because they were vocal about, like, 644 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, criticizing the companies like this whole other thing, 645 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's getting worse now, Like you put out 646 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: a letter two employees trying to explain the mess away 647 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: and how it's really not that bad because Netflix also 648 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: has like stuff with like gay people too, so that's chill. 649 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: And he said this is in this letter quote. Adults 650 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: can watch violence, assault in abuse, or enjoy shocking stand 651 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: up comedy without it causing them to harm others. We 652 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: are working hard to ensure marginalized communities aren't defined by 653 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: a single story. So he had sex education oranges into 654 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: a black control z. Hannah Gadsby and Dave Chappelle all 655 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: on Netflix. Key to this is increasing diversity on the 656 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: on the content team itself. Hannah Gatsby did not appreciate 657 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: being deployed as a defense token in this fucking lame 658 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: or argument and posted quote Ted Surranda's just a quick 659 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: note to let you know that I would prefer if 660 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: you didn't drag my name into your mess. Now I 661 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: have to deal with even more of the hate and 662 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: anger that Dave Chappelle's fans like to unleash on me 663 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: every time Dave gets twenty million dollars to process his 664 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: emotionally stunted partial worldview. You didn't pay me nearly enough 665 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: to deal with the real world consequences of the hate 666 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: speech dog whistling you refuse to acknowledge, Ted, fuck you, 667 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: and you're a moral algorithm cold. I do ships with 668 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: more backbone than you. That's just a Joe. I definitely 669 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 1: didn't cross the line because you just told the world 670 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: there isn't one Wow. Damn, that was good. That was 671 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: a good tweet. Now, as a I think it's a 672 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: be a m I g like I post, but the 673 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: referencing of like, I'd like that, you know, Hannah's calling 674 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: out this just tired as defensive. These things don't lead 675 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: a real world harm, okay, and having a very limited 676 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: definition of what harm is. You know, as he says, 677 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: this is another this is his further you know defense 678 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: of like this harm argument quote. The strongest evidence to 679 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: support this is that violence on screens has grown hugely 680 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: over the last thirty years, especially with first party shooter 681 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: games the first party, and yet violent crime has fallen 682 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: significantly in many countries. Adults can watch violence blah blah 683 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah without harming others. So that was like 684 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: the first part. You know, you can still get Birth 685 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: of a Nation or Triumph of the Will through their 686 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: disc based rental service, just so you know. But also, 687 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of people are pointing out, is like 688 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: have you seen this own documentary that's on Netflix that 689 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: you put out called Disclosure, which the sub heading is 690 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: in this documentary leading transcreatives and thinkers share heartfelt perspectives 691 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: and analysis about Hollywood's impact on the trans community. I 692 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: think that's just like your opinion, man, and it's like 693 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: your opinion man on my own platform. Yeah, oh man, 694 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation with a friend over 695 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: dinner about this last night, but who's also a comedian. 696 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: It's so like comedians, a lot of them can't make 697 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: the connection between like the thing they're saying and then 698 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: also violence. Like to them, there's just not the straight 699 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: line at all, and it's like really fucking infuriating. Also 700 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: the people that, really, I would say, would you say, 701 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: there's like a vent diagram of people that hated Hannah 702 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: gas By special and then also people that like like 703 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: defend Defense Chapelle, And it's like, if you didn't think 704 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: that was comedy, why what do you think that is? Like? 705 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: And I watched the whole thing too, and it was 706 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: like long, point point making pauses, diatribes is like what 707 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: it reads like, Yeah, it's like super hypical. Granted, you 708 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: know the whole thing wasn't just a screed against the 709 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, but what it was was it didn't it's 710 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: it was not a comedy special. When you look at 711 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: his other specials, it's a completely different person and a 712 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: different kind of performance, and it's truly just someone, as 713 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: Gatsby says, it's just sort of like trying to process 714 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: their limited worldview on stage for a couple of million bucks. 715 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: Yea and a lot of people said, look, if for 716 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: all the people who want to make the content doesn't 717 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: cause horm nonsense, a lot of them just gestured at 718 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: thirteen reasons why you know. Many child development experts and 719 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: psychologists criticized the show for its depiction of a teenager 720 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: taking their own life, and they said it could possibly 721 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: very well and most likely would lead to copycat incidents. 722 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: And then a damning study was released. According to the 723 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry 724 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: in March seventeen, which was a month after the show debut, 725 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: there's a twenty eight point nine percent increase in suicide 726 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: among Americans ages ten to seventeen. And it completely was 727 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: like an out are based on statistical trends and things 728 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: like that, and obviously, again correlation isn't causation, but it 729 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: was definitely enough for Netflix to say, Okay, let's reconsider something, 730 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: and they just did the minimum by adding a warning card, um, 731 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: oh too too rich, not enough people telling them to 732 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 1: shut the funk up. I think is often what happens, right, Yeah, 733 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a bummer, man. Harm isn't just 734 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: about walking up to someone and committing a violent hate crime, 735 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think that's how 736 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: people excuse that this isn't bad, that this doesn't arrive 737 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: to that level of what the hate speech or something 738 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: like that. And I would say anything that is contributing 739 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: to the slowing of progress is in and of itself 740 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: a violent outcome for somebody, because normalizing the other ing 741 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: of trans people through edgy comedy specials directly contributes to 742 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: people not seeing the humanity of these people. And it's 743 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: just a punchline. And I'm curious which Chappelle defend a 744 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 1: white comics use of minstrelsy tropes or doing black face 745 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: because people laughed at that ship. But it's the same thing. 746 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: Black Face was used to dehumanize Black Americans, and at 747 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: the time people called that comedy entertainment. But the insidious 748 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: part is what it does is it creates a baseline 749 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: for a level of being able to perceive someone as 750 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: a human who's deserving his dignity or not. And if 751 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: you're fucking with that, and you're trying to pump the 752 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: brakes on that by saying ship like I'm team Turf 753 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: and all this other ship and trying to make your 754 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: point about how like trying to deny someone the agency 755 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: of fucking gender expression, you're directly opposed to progress to 756 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,479 Speaker 1: liberation for people. So in that sense, you're not fucking 757 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: saying anything clever. You're not speaking truth to power or 758 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: anything like that. And if you're talking about you know, 759 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: like good comedy that's edgy and causes conversation is typically 760 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: pointing out an absurdity of our society or culture, right 761 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: that people, damn, that is an absurd thing that is 762 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: going on that we're not really looking at critically. At best, 763 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: Chappelle is saying that it's absurd that trans women think 764 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: they are women. That's it, and that's only I don't 765 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,479 Speaker 1: that would only appear as an absurd notion to someone 766 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: that wants to deny a person the agency of gender expression. 767 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: That's not saying anything larger about this. So that's I'm like, 768 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm failing to see where where you understand the like 769 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: the hegemonic dimensions of all this and where power lies 770 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: in what direction you're trying to to skew the like 771 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,320 Speaker 1: make a point, right, I mean there and there is 772 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 1: no He's just making the same point over and over again, 773 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: and it's just him gesturing at his anxiety around something 774 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: that deep down he knows is wrong and fucked up 775 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: and he hasn't dealt with it. But like in the 776 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: same way that you know, you look back at you know, 777 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: minstrel shows and you're like, how is this comedy? Like 778 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense now, but it was because it 779 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: addressed like some deep anxiety of people realizing like what 780 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: they were, like their worldview was incredibly fucked up. I 781 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: think that it's the same thing. It's like I don't 782 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: really even see how this is a joke, but it's 783 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: like basically like touching on a thing that I think 784 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: culturally he like we realize as fucked up, and that 785 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: like he's struggling with like five levels deep in his 786 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: consciousness and like can't can't process, and that's why he 787 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 1: keeps fucking coming back to it and just being wrong 788 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: and strong on on that Man's There's like almost no 789 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: in between with like comedy anymore. It's like people are 790 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: either tripping on a banana pele or they're like trying 791 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 1: to start a cult or something. There's like no in between, 792 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: like at all I missed people tripping on a banana peal. 793 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: What happened to prat falls. Yeah, that's what prat falls. 794 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: Let's yoursietal analyzes from your perspective as assists hett and 795 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: male telling people who is and is not a woman, 796 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: like Okay, it's like when Joe Biden was like, if 797 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: you don't vote for me, you ain't black? Right? The 798 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: funk up full? We got something for your ask too, 799 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: all I do you know, I can't stand to It's 800 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: like a lot of these contexts too, will say things 801 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: like why would you listen to us? Like we're comedians, 802 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: and it's like you keep, you know, positioning yourself as 803 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: someone that knows what the funk they're talking about, like 804 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: your you know, like your your point making, like that's 805 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: why people are listening to you. Yeah, and I and 806 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: I think it's I. I really challenge people for people 807 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: who are Dave Chappelle fans, and I've had a few 808 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: of them reach out to me because of our perspective 809 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: on this whole incident is to really consider what you 810 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: are casually just laughing off as not harmful because maybe 811 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: you are in a position socio economically, racially or whatever 812 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: to not understand that ship like that is is what 813 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: keeps pull down is what keeps things from progressing forward 814 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: and having a better outcome or life like when you know, 815 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: I think most people can look at racial stereotypes and 816 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: understand that they're harmful, but you have to begin to 817 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: evolve your thinking of it to understand how large this 818 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: world is and how varied people's experiences and identities are, 819 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 1: and like, why the funk are you caping for somebody 820 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: who's making someone feel bad? That doesn't that's not that 821 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: doesn't track. And I'm if people in the trans community 822 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: is saying this is violence, this is offensive. I think 823 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to have to be 824 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: subjected to this. Why the funk are other people be like, no, no, 825 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: they don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, that's not 826 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: your place to determine that. This actually brings us to 827 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: a story that I've been teasing for a month now 828 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: but that we keep not getting too because I was 829 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: waiting for the perfect time to bring it up. It's 830 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 1: the story that super producer Dramas put in the dock 831 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: about a study that shows that two point six percent 832 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: of people have athantasia, meaning they don't possess the ability 833 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: to create pictures in their minds on and oftentimes they 834 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: don't realize this. They just think that people are being 835 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: poetic when they talk about like being able to envision things. 836 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 1: But this Vice article consists of an interview with somebody 837 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: who has this, and the reason that I think it 838 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 1: relates to what you're talking about with the Chappelle thing 839 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: is they mentioned that people get like, really defensive and 840 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of aggressive when they explained that they have this. 841 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: So the Vice reporters, have you always known the way 842 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: you thought was significantly different to other people? And then 843 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: the person with affiant Asia says a friend said that 844 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: a friend of theirs was Greek but had lived in 845 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: England for ten years, and they were wondering whether he 846 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: thought in English or in Greek. And until that moment, 847 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,359 Speaker 1: I had no idea that anyone thought in languages at all. 848 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: The same goes for mental images. When people said a 849 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: mental picture, I didn't realize they were being literally. I 850 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,280 Speaker 1: thought it was poetic. When I found out it wasn't. 851 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: A bit of poetry of the world disappeared. I've only 852 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: known for a few years, so it's taken some time 853 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: to get used to the notion that not everyone thinks 854 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: the same way. And then they talk about how people 855 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: get agro about them and the vice reports like why 856 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: would that bother people? And they say it strikes me 857 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: that by mentioning that I don't think in pictures or 858 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: in words, I'm somehow attacking their approach. The fact that 859 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: there's another way makes people uncomfortable. Everyone is always asking 860 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: me questions like can't you tell me what your dad 861 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: looks like? And the reporters like, can't you tell me 862 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: what your dad looks like? And they're like, no, I 863 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: know what my dad looks like. I know what my 864 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: entire family looks like. But the only reason I could 865 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: tell you what color my dad's eyes are is because 866 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: I checked once when someone asked me. And you know, 867 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: I think this ties back to people's like inability to 868 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: process the violence that trans people feel around the Dave 869 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: Chappelle Special. I think it ties back to even the 870 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: Havana syndrome story and the fact that like people are 871 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: so first of all aggressive and like certain, oh they 872 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: must be making it up. Or then when the people 873 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: themselves are accused of like you know, not having had 874 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: the actual attack, gets super defensive. Is because we just 875 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 1: we are super aggressive and like kind of counterintuitively and 876 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: illogically aggressive when it comes to the idea that other 877 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: human beings don't think and process the world in the 878 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,359 Speaker 1: same way that we did. It's like really troubling two 879 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: people in a way that I just I feel like 880 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: I see it everywhere. Once I read this article, I 881 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's we are like so uncomfortable with 882 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: that idea. And yeah, insecurity is like directly tied to 883 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: anchor about things, right, It's obvious, like you well, I 884 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: feel like once I started realizing that I could see it, 885 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: and other people too, Like when I see you know 886 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm like, oh, you're incredibly insecure about something, 887 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, that's how it comes out. Yeah, And yeah, 888 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: it's just like like we kind of built a world 889 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: that relies on the illusion that we have control over 890 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: like all our faculties and that we all think the 891 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: same and like if somebody commits a crime, they have 892 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,800 Speaker 1: done that on purpose, like thinking the same thoughts that 893 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: we're thinking as we imagine them committing that crime, and 894 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: you know that therefore blame them for their actions. And yeah, 895 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: there's just it's so much of the world relies on 896 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: this illusion and this like misconception. And then you know, 897 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: any time like somebody explains that their brain doesn't want 898 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: exactly the same as somebody else, or you know that 899 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: their experience has led them to see something completely differently 900 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: than you. It just causes people like two freak out 901 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: when you read that. Uh that study? Did it sunk 902 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: with you a little bit? Also? But you were like, 903 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: can I think of images? I was like, for a second, 904 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: I read it this morning. I was like, oh God, 905 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: picture a candle. I got it, I got it right. Yeah, 906 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: I don't know what a candle looks like. Yeah, there's 907 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: I think. You know, it's just the same way like 908 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: with especially we saw it with the uprisings last summer 909 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: around you know all the police killings that were happening, 910 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: is that suddenly white people were caught in them all 911 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: and be like, what do you like? He was like, wait, 912 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: there's another way to look at this rather than being 913 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: less empathetic or understanding of like how oppression works. And 914 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: then suddenly it's to get defensive about it and defend 915 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 1: your because it's for many people it's hard to look 916 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: at your belief system and say, Yo, that's fucking that. 917 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 1: Actually I need to throw that piece out that's actually 918 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: not helping me, it's actually gonna hold me back, and 919 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: it's actually it's running counter to where the where the 920 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,959 Speaker 1: rest of the world is. Yeah, I had very many 921 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,360 Speaker 1: points of evolution in my own understanding of race, of 922 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: gender identity and things like that, and it truly took me. 923 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: You have to really you have to arrive at a 924 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: place where you have to think, a am I a 925 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: flawed person? Or do I have things that I'm insecure 926 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 1: about are different about me that I would hope I'm 927 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,879 Speaker 1: living in a world where those things don't matter, where 928 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: those are not those are not vectors to terrorize me emotionally. 929 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: And can I be around people that are understanding? And 930 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: if I do believe that's the world that I want 931 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: to live in, then it is incumbent on me to 932 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: also treat every other person in situation like that, because 933 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,320 Speaker 1: if you get selective, then it's only gonna it doesn't 934 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: lead to increased understanding. Buddy, dude, I even thinking about 935 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: like comedy, like I've been doing it for ten years. 936 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: I started in Pittsburgh, like I had grow up in 937 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: like the most like culturally diverse town, and like going 938 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: to Austin it's like a very liberal place. I remember 939 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 1: getting there and like doing jokes and like other like 940 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: a a great friend of mine, Cas Barbara Doro other 941 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: another comedian came up to me after a show one time. 942 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,879 Speaker 1: It was like like, you're super funny, but that one 943 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: joke is like super misogynist, and I was like really, 944 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: I was like I don't know if I read it 945 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: that way, and she was like like yeah, like the 946 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: laughs you're getting on it like they're like kind of 947 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: like mean last and do It's stuck with me so much, 948 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: and I remember just having a moment where I was like, oh, 949 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't want that at all, right, as like I 950 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: always felt like but I always felt like open to 951 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 1: like evolving past those things and thankful for the people 952 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: in my life too, and then we're just totally like hey, 953 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: like let's talk about it real quick, and you know, oh, yeah, 954 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah, And that's that's I think, like, 955 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: so at that moment, you were able to imagine the 956 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 1: world from a different perspective than your own and evolve 957 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: your perspective to include that perspective. And I feel like 958 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: the you know, all out of these comedians who now 959 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: are just like trying to start a cult are are 960 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: like they get told of a different perspective and they 961 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: just kind of clamped down and choose to not let 962 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: that in and instead to fight against it and try 963 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: to like get people to see the the world through 964 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: their eyes, I guess, And yeah, in a very culti 965 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: way that seems damaging. Well yeah, And a lot of 966 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: people are stuck on the fact that they were probably 967 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,320 Speaker 1: getting a lot of laughs when they were kids in 968 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: the nineties by being the meanest motherfucker who was able 969 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 1: to rephrase bullying shit in funny ways. M Yeah, because 970 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Man. I used to get so 971 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: many laughs, like just going off on somebody's looks or 972 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: like your mom, you know, like just just mean ship. 973 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: But people are more like, oh ship, he went there 974 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: in a creative way, and and then you realize, sh it, man, 975 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm just really good at being mean in a way 976 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: that isn't traditionally mean, and it's a way that I 977 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: can make people laugh because we all of us are 978 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: stunted kids and not like not able to extend empathy 979 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: or sympathy in a direction. And then you have to 980 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: have a reckoning with that where I was like fun man, 981 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: like I'm not really funny if the only thing I 982 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: can do is just being like kind of mean, like 983 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: just describe some ship about someone being different or ugly 984 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: or something like that. That's not a joke, And there's 985 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: a I think that's why a lot of people too, 986 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: who have a lot of like jokes or material that 987 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: are sort of come from that philosophy of like, yo, 988 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm just teasing, man, I'm just capt you know, just 989 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: sucking poking fun man, it's not that it's comedy. Those 990 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: are people who really go, what the fuss is happening? Man, 991 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: Like this is all this is like everything is completely changed. 992 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: It's like, well know, like people get older, and as 993 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: people get older, we have more access to experiences and 994 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: ways to process our experience to be like, oh that 995 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: all that ship I used to laugh at that was 996 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: actually really foul. That was actually contributing as someone else 997 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: being feeling like absolute shit about themselves, and that's not 998 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: the spirit of what comedy is. Yeah, And they are 999 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: the ones who are like, I'm just joking, Like what, 1000 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: it's just a joke, I'm just a comedian, don't pay 1001 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: attention to me. Are the ones who when that premise 1002 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: is challenged, they're like they get very serious. Yeah, suddenly, 1003 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: what's premisy a massogyn free speech conversation? Yeah, yeah, exactly 1004 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: if and again, if your material isn't actually pointing out 1005 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: the absurdity of something like and there's a you have 1006 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: actually from a position of like you're morally correctly pointing 1007 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: out an absurd power imbalance, which is what great comedy 1008 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, you know, you have to ask yourself 1009 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: like what is it really saying? Well, but I feel 1010 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: like to them and a lot of these people too, 1011 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: they are pointing out that absurdity. It's it's for them. 1012 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: It's like they are thinking critics, but it's because they're 1013 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: so threatened, and then they don't want it to change. 1014 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: And like I just know, dude, I know these fuckers 1015 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: like a lot, like a lot of them, And it's like, yeah, 1016 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: they think that they're the the ones thinking critically and 1017 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: we're all we're all like cheap about it, and I 1018 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: think and what and what like you couldn't ask for 1019 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: a worse laboratory to extract your data from. Oh my god, 1020 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: being on a stage with a microphone saying something and 1021 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: people laugh, people who already like are are you going 1022 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: to move past that. No you're not. No, it's it's yeah, 1023 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: the thing that makes you feel like a god, you know, 1024 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: like like, yeah, you're just gonna be enabled the whole 1025 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: time exactly saying those things here and that's what it's 1026 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: all about. It was like, well, I'm getting positive feedback 1027 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,480 Speaker 1: from this, guessing all then that's the same thing Dave 1028 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: Chappelle said at the Hollywood Bowl when he did premiered 1029 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: his documentary there. He went up there and he was like, Oh, 1030 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad, y'all love me, and people like and he's like, 1031 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: if this is what being canceled feels like, then I 1032 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: fucking love it. But you are in a bro that's 1033 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: that's that's only a couple of thousand people there. Yeah, 1034 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: you have a lot of other people and I think 1035 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people also trying to it's this noisy 1036 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: minority of people. Well, that may be true that maybe 1037 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: mathematically people that are offended by homophobia or trans phobia 1038 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: may not be at a global majority. Yeah, but it's 1039 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: not an insignificant amount of people. And I think that's 1040 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: what's also very dismissive about the whole thing, a very 1041 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: literal bubble that he was in like people paying to 1042 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: see you with no cell phone, right right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1043 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: that sounds everything is above board. Yeah, you know you're 1044 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: on the right side when you're espousing views that Vladimir 1045 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Putin would agree with. Yeah, you're you're crushing it man, Putins, 1046 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: like he was there in the audience of the Hollywood 1047 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: They cut to them real quick. That imbalanced the power 1048 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: thing is so true, and it's why to talk about 1049 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: something we mentioned earlier, why slipping on a banana peel 1050 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: is the best joke because it's the ultimate imbalance of 1051 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: power between human beings and grand you know, well, put 1052 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: me think about it. Yeah, we're all we're all just 1053 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: slipping on peels. Man, we're all just sleeping on peels. Dude, 1054 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: it's about It's all about sticking the landing and getting 1055 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: back up. Oh my god, you guy should teach a 1056 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: comedy class. I like it comedy philosophy. Well, I mean, 1057 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: because it's true. And you look at Chappelle's early ship. 1058 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: He was able to people be like, oh, these jokes 1059 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: are racist. Well, he was actually able to use racism 1060 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to put broadening, like to bring up a larger point 1061 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: about the racist dynamics within the United States and when 1062 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: that and I think he's completely just I don't know, 1063 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: maybe that's no longer important to him, but I feel 1064 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: like if he for someone again who says like he 1065 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: really cares about trans people, then listen to them. Yes, 1066 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: listen to them, and don't be dismissive. And just because 1067 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 1: you have one person's family and another trans comedian that 1068 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: has your back, that doesn't negate the feelings of many 1069 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: other people. And if you're truly there, if like any 1070 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: person who wants to claim their ally of anything, you know, 1071 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: liberation movement for people, then you have to really be 1072 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: aware of this kind of ship and know what you 1073 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: are fighting for and fighting against and what progress looks 1074 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: like and what the slowing of progress looks like. Yeah, 1075 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 1: it's just weird because Chappelle has never said something that 1076 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: age poorly before, Like when he told us that we 1077 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 1: should give Donald Trump a chance. That dude, he pulled 1078 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: back on that one, what like a couple of months 1079 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: later or something. That's what I'm hoping that that happens. 1080 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't think so three specials in our round now. 1081 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean at the end of that special he did 1082 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: say something like he said he's done doing the jokes 1083 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: until you know whatever he said, until I know that 1084 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 1: we're both laughing together, and it's like, that's not gonna happen. 1085 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: So you're just done doing the jokes now, tool and 1086 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was the joke? Yeah? Sorry, all right, 1087 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:55,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeys, please 1088 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,439 Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show, 1089 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,440 Speaker 1: uh means world of Miles. He needs your validation, folks. 1090 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1091 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By