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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully everyone is having your great day, staying staying cool

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the draft. I want to

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Speaker 1: Bay dominated and then they offered the real contract. He

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Speaker 1: easily could have stayed there, but he didn't think Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love could play. And I don't blame him because I

430
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Speaker 1: don't think anyone thought that. Hell, I don't even think

431
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Speaker 1: the Packers thought that halfway through last season when their

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Speaker 1: general manager said during the bye, yeah, these last ten

433
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Speaker 1: games are gonna determine his future. So you could argue

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Speaker 1: that a guy second half of a season, I mean,

435
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Speaker 1: might have changed the entire franchise. And it just shows

436
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: you until you get reps, like I would to call

437
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Pauly learned by doing That's the only way you could

438
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: get better is through experience. Now, just because you're doing

439
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: something doesn't mean you're gonna be good at it. Especially

440
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: in football, you need the talent. But Jordan Love sure

441
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: got good. I think he's made DeVante claims he doesn't

442
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Speaker 1: regret it. I do think if he knew that Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love was gonna be this good, he probably would have stayed,

444
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Speaker 1: and he somewhat alluded to that. The other thing is this.

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00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: We have talked about this on Fugazi Fridays, the work

446
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: life balance argument, and I say everyone's different. Right, If

447
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Speaker 1: you work a nine to five and you're making seventy

448
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: five grand, I don't expect you to give everything you

449
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Speaker 1: have for that company. But even if you are, you know,

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Speaker 1: a quote unquote W two employee, and I'm paying you

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Speaker 1: a million dollars, I probably expect a little more. I

452
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Speaker 1: expect for you to dedicate a lot to your job,

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Speaker 1: whatever that may be, So you could argue the price

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Speaker 1: of what I pay you determines your work life balance.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's fair. In the world we live in.

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Speaker 1: The more you get paid, the more is you know

457
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Speaker 1: on your plate. You're making fifty grand? Fuck right, I

458
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: can't expect that much out of you, and I don't

459
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Speaker 1: blame you if you don't put that much into you.

460
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Speaker 1: But this happens a lot during the draft season, when

461
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Speaker 1: this is something that's always bothered me. A couple things

462
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Speaker 1: have always bothered me about the draft, but this one specifically,

463
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: when coaches will crush guys like I don't think he

464
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Speaker 1: likes football that much. I don't think he has too

465
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Speaker 1: many other hobbies. I don't want you to have that

466
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Speaker 1: many hobbies. And you listen to Max Crosby, listen to

467
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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, you listen to all the great players like

468
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Speaker 1: football on their priority list. I'm not expecting you to

469
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Speaker 1: like it and have it mean more than like your

470
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Speaker 1: kid right or your faith. It's why God family. Football

471
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Speaker 1: is something that gets said in college and pro football

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Speaker 1: a lot. But it better be damn high on your

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Speaker 1: priority list, and it better be almost even more than

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Speaker 1: a burning passion deep inside you. Because when you listen

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Speaker 1: to those two guys. Max Crosby's been talking about this

476
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Speaker 1: for a while, he obviously is sober and now you know,

477
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: after years of you know, battles some stuff, and in

478
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: the off season he goes to the gym every single

479
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: day at like six am. I'm talking like February in March,

480
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: the raiders facility and works out. He says, it just

481
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Speaker 1: tries to help give him the mental edge. And you

482
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Speaker 1: listen to Davante what it means for him to work

483
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Speaker 1: on his craft and to just practice like Jerry Rice,

484
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: and I think this goes around. You just saw the

485
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: Kancity Chiefs gave Travis Kelcey a two year contract like

486
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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars guaranteed at all, which is based

487
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Speaker 1: on his production his career is the easiest money they've

488
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Speaker 1: ever spent, even if he's not quite the same guy

489
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Speaker 1: as he was three or four years ago. Never forget

490
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Speaker 1: meeting him last year at TPC Scottsdale walking. He was

491
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Speaker 1: walking to the driving range because one of his buddies

492
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: is on the corn Ferry tour and he would just

493
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Speaker 1: go there to practice. I don't think he hangs out

494
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Speaker 1: in Scottsdale as much anymore with Taylor. This is pre

495
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, well, at least publicly. I think it was

496
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: because he was spending a lot of time in Scottsdale.

497
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Speaker 1: But when I told him that I knew Andy and

498
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: Veach and we started bullshitting for a minute, it kind

499
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Speaker 1: of ended with him like I can't wait and this

500
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: was probably right around this time, maybe even in mid April,

501
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: might have been before the draft. So I can't wait

502
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: to get back to Kansas City for OTAs. I love practicing,

503
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: I love football. I can't wait to get back with

504
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Speaker 1: the boys and start working. And this knows you hear

505
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: this a lot in the draft, Like we say the

506
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: word character a lot when we're judging prospects. Characters more

507
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: than just like take your hat off when you meet

508
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: an older lady, or open the door for a grandma, right,

509
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: or shake someone's hand and look them in the eye.

510
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: A lot of character gets talked about in the NFL

511
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: about football character. How bad do you want it? How

512
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: much it means to you. We all know successful people

513
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: in some walk of life, right, And I would say

514
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: a large and I'm saying financially they're good at their job,

515
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: that have a successful company or inside of a company,

516
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: or just doing really well. Wouldn't you say most of

517
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: them work extremely hard and are very very passionate about

518
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: what they do, and what they do means a lot

519
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: to them, deep deep down, like deep in their inner beings.

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00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler said last week after he won the RBC,

521
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Speaker 1: after he had just won the Masters. How are you

522
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: doing this? He said, Guys, I love golf. I love

523
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: practicing golf, I love playing golf. I love everything about golf.

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00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Tiger said that at AUGUSTA same thing, like Tiger, Why

525
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: are you still doing this? Because I love doing this?

526
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: And when you hear Max and DeVante, you're like, God, Now, listen,

527
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: are the Raiders gonna be good? Their quarterback situation is

528
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: not ideal, but there's a reason those guys are super

529
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: high end players. Davante went in the second round. Max

530
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Crosby was a mid round pick. Travis Kelcey same thing,

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00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: third rounder. His brother was a sixth rounder. Football means

532
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: everything beside their family, and if you don't have a

533
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, and if they're not your best players,

534
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you don't really have a shot. I remember talking to

535
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Keith Williams, Davante's guy at the combine about Lamar. He

536
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: fucking loves Lamar Jackson because everyone in that building loves

537
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because of how much football means doing. And

538
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys, some guys have success

539
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL that don't really like football, no different

540
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: than all these sports, basketball, baseball, They just have the

541
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: god given talent, but big picture, they're capped and they're

542
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: the type guys that usually fall off faster, you know,

543
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: health permitting. So when I listen to that podcast, I went,

544
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: this is what teams are looking for. These are the

545
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: type guys. Now, there's a lot of other factors. Once

546
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: you get money. How do you react? There? Stuff that

547
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: you never know? You think you could have a pretty

548
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: good educated guest. You listen to Vante and Max talk

549
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: like they've been unfazed by money. Honestly, it just inspires

550
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: them to work harder, and that's ideally in this draft process,

551
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: what you're working for. Travis Kelce last year, before the

552
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: season even started, Hall of Famer, All pros, Pro Bowls,

553
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls, He's an absolutely legendary player. And in

554
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: that playoff and he kept saying, I've never wanted anything more,

555
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: and he hammered that home both weeks before the Super Bowl.

556
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: I've never wanted to win this game more than this year.

557
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: And in that that play where he shoved Andy Reid.

558
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: I remember Randy telling me at the combine, He's like, you know,

559
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't even realize that I'm taking him in and out.

560
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, keep him fresh. But that's

561
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: I love that about him, Like that's I like being

562
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: in the trenches with that. But yeah, did he lose

563
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: his emotional stability right there for a second, of course,

564
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: But this is football, this is beer league softball. There's

565
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: a lot on the line here, and he's proven and

566
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Speaker 1: shown me for a decade how bad he wants it.

567
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: So I just I think the Chiefs are a great

568
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: example of their best players. This is why they are

569
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the new Patriots, because when you listen to Devin mccordy

570
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady and Julian Edelman and that core group

571
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: of talk about football. God, these guys like this shit

572
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot. They're addicted. And usually most successful people, whether

573
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: it's healthy or not, are addicted to what they're doing.

574
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Kind of the price of success. A couple other just

575
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: NFL news and notes Fox I saw I want seven

576
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: million dollars for thirty seconds of an ad. And I've

577
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: said this for a while that when I was a kid,

578
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: I remember going to parties at my buddy's house for

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00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the nineties. I vividly remember watching

580
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: the Steelers Packers Super Bowl, or was the Packers was

581
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: the Packers, Patriots Super Bowl some of those. Maybe it

582
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: was the steel It was the Steelers against the Cowboys,

583
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: then the Patriots against the the FARV, and then FARV.

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00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: The second game was against the Broncos. Kind of that

585
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: little three year stretch. And the Super Bowl commercials were

586
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: really really big deal. All the biggest brands in America,

587
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: whether it's McDonald's, whether it was Budweiser, whether it was Chevrolet.

588
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: It was a big time for them to shine because

589
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: one hundred million people were sitting there and between the action,

590
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: we're still sitting there. Times have changed. I've noticed it

591
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: in the last couple Super Bowls, whether I've been at

592
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: a party or whether I was just watching it with Maria.

593
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: When the commercials come on, I go to my cell phone.

594
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: I was watching Tiger Woods today, who's probably my favorite athlete.

595
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: He has this new clothing brand called Sunday Red, and

596
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: he's I wouldn't wear it. I think he kind of

597
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: screwed up on the logo. It should have been more

598
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: of like an iconic picture of him, a lot like

599
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan flying through the air for the Jordan brand.

600
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: But regardless of any of that stuff, he went on

601
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: a press tour today. Here's the problem them. Tiger went

602
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: on a press tour like it was two thousand and six.

603
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: Good Morning America. It's like, Tiger, do you want my

604
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: mom who's seventy five and retired to care about your stuff?

605
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Or do you want the people that are forty fifty

606
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: years old, because his price points are really high with

607
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: a high household income to buy this stuff because they're

608
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: not watching any of this stuff. You're going on Tiger

609
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, Do you know where you should go?

610
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Go on podcasts? Go on someone's YouTube show, Go somewhere,

611
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: go on Pardon My Take, Go on Colin's I'd love

612
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: to have you, but probably make more sense to going

613
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: with Colin. Do that type stuff. That's where your audience is,

614
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: where you want to sell this. Go on No Laying

615
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: Ups podcast, going on with Carson Dally. Do you think

616
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: any of the people that would buy your stuff are

617
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: sitting down watching that stuff? But I understand it, Like

618
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: in Tiger's heyday, that stuff mattered, and the people Tigers

619
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: surrounded with that run his money have been doing it

620
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. That stuff in their head matters.

621
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: It no longer matters, and I just wonder if I

622
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: was a company, why would you spend seven million dollars

623
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: now if you're meta or what these companies with unlimited

624
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: amounts of money, like, what is it hurt? But even

625
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: if I ran Chevy or Budweiser, like, I think we

626
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: could utilize that money much differently. Now the consumer in

627
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: the world has dramatically changed. That commercial is nowhere near

628
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: as powerful. Now There's still gonna be a lot of

629
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: people surrounded the TV and see it in the backdrop.

630
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: But I think the day and age of everyone just

631
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: kind of watching it like that was a huge part

632
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: of the event because anyone that's my age year old

633
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: or the Super Bowl commercials were I would say as

634
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: big as the Super Bowl. They were massive. It was

635
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: it went hand in hand. I just don't believe it

636
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: does because I know as a thirty nine year old guy,

637
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: they don't mean shit to me anymore, and they haven't

638
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: in a long time. Why Because I'm not really paying

639
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: attention and I've seen the power of this device, which

640
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Speaker 1: is not the healthiest thing, but it is what it is,

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Speaker 1: and we go to that thing immediately. I love when coaches,

642
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: and this is a classic coach thing totally understand, like

643
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: second third rounder, if you come out and be like, listen,

644
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: I know we have openings at both guard spots, but

645
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: this our second round pick is going to have to

646
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: earn his way. I totally get it. But anytime you

647
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: take a guy really high in the draft and the

648
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: coach comes out and goes, Marvin Harrison Junior is gonna

649
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: have to earn his spot. It's like, guys, no, he's not.

650
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Obviously he can't just never show up to practice and

651
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: show up week one and play. But like, if Marvin

652
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: Harrison is in the building and practicing, we not only

653
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: know he's your starter, we know he's your leading receiver.

654
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. And you know, the Cardinals coaching staff

655
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: is really young. Gannin's like early forties, may even be

656
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: like thirty nine to forty. Both of his coordinators I

657
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: think are under forty as offensive coordinators, like thirty three.

658
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: I think his defensive coordinator is thirty five. So I'm

659
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: on them all four given millennial shots. But vic Fango,

660
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: who's definitely not that age and very old school. I

661
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: remember being around the Niners when I had a radio

662
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: show and they drafted Eric Reid, his brother Justin's on

663
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and he was a really good player coming

664
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: at LSU and they desperately needed a safety. And Fangio's like,

665
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: we don't hand jobs out here. You got to earn

666
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: that shit. All through preseason, all through training camp. Eric

667
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: Reed ran with the twos, It's like, what, Vic, I

668
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: think you're excellent, but what are we doing here? You

669
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: don't happen in a week one when they rolled out,

670
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: Eric Reeder was starting safety investments. What you put into

671
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: these guys, the draft capitol, what you're actually paying. Marvin

672
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Speaker 1: Harrison is going to sign a contract at like thirty

673
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: four million dollars, They're gonna guarantee him twenty five million dollars. Yes,

674
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: he's your starter last, but not at least the Patriots.

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00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: I think I said a couple weeks ago that they

676
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: were clearly gonna have a lot of options, that their

677
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: team sucks so bad that they should just trade back

678
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: start building up their team. I don't necessarily am gonna

679
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: pivot off that spot, but I do understand this. When

680
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: you have people interested in what you have to me,

681
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: the people interested in what you have should matter. If

682
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: the guy's an idiot, You're like this guy. Whatever, Could

683
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: we just fleece this guy? He doesn't know what he's

684
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: doing the Patriots. It was reported that the Giants offered

685
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: pick six and a twenty twenty five first round pick.

686
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: I think we all agree this Giants team is no

687
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: lock to be eight nine wins. They could, but w

688
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: it's shocking if they're six and eleven. So that that

689
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: pick Ryan Pole did it once upon a time could

690
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: be very, very valuable. Here's the problem. The Giants they

691
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: wanted Drake May. Same with the Minnesota who will get

692
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Speaker 1: into in a second. The Giants GM was the assistant

693
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: GM and Brian Dave Boll was the offensive coordinator when

694
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Speaker 1: they moved up and got a guy like Josh Allen.

695
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: So if you go, wait, these guys who were a

696
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: big part of the move up to get Josh now

697
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: really value this guy. And then Kevin O'Connell, who worked

698
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: with Stafford, who last year worked with Cousins for the

699
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: last couple years worked with Cousins, clearly has established himself

700
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: pretty good young offensive play caller slash quarterback guy former

701
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: quarterback himself, offered eleven, twenty three and a twenty five

702
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: first for Drake May. So you go Wait, these two

703
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: guys who clearly have a pretty good feel for what

704
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: works in this league at that position. Young and old

705
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: want our guy. Want the guy that we also like,

706
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: even though we have a lot of other issues. Maybe

707
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: it makes the most sense to just take this player

708
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: that are we equipped to handle right away? Probably not.

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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: Is it a great situation for him? No, it's not.

710
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: But could we ever live down if day Ball resurrects

711
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: his career or Kevin O'Connell becomes a legend because Drake

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Speaker 1: May is the next Josh Allen or Herbert, we'd have

713
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: fucking problems and all of us, even if the Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Kraft who is the GM signs off on it, we're

715
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: all getting fired because if you think they're mad in Boston, Now,

716
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Speaker 1: if we did that and then that kid's a baller,

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00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: we're all done. So I get it, you know, And

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Speaker 1: I think I heard someone say that those teams doing

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00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: that and their interest in them just validated their thoughts

720
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: on the player. I get it, and it's I mean,

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00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: it definitely is the right move in terms of you

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Speaker 1: need a quarterback, take a guy with a ton of talent. Now,

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Speaker 1: is it a great landing spot or is it gonna

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Speaker 1: look good. I would probably bet against that. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: dive into the Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms to get

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Speaker 1: your question here on the podcast, we will start with Corey.

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Speaker 1: With the draft concluded, how do you think Washington will

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00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: fare this upcoming season? Well, brand new coach obviously, a

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Speaker 1: new GM, and a brand new quarterback, which I think

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Speaker 1: is exciting. You could say, if he is a high

732
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Speaker 1: end player early on, and I'm not even talking CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's a good rookie, you should compete

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Speaker 1: to win eight ish games. I would say off the

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Speaker 1: time my head, I don't have your draft in front

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Speaker 1: of me, But you took the defensive tackle from Illinois

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people thought I could have been

738
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Speaker 1: a first rounder. Now you have a defensive tackle who's

739
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: pretty good on the team in Allen. But there were

740
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Speaker 1: some I was listen to, some things like could he

741
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: get traded? Who knows? Obviously he would definitely have value

742
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: in the open market if they traded him during training

743
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: camp or whatever. I think you also drafted a tight

744
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: end who a lot of people view was really good.

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00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: The one thing with Adam Peters is he was around.

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, with the forty nine ers, they actually missed

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00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: on a lot of high picks and hit on a

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00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: lot of like third, fourth, fifth rounders. I mean, some

749
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Speaker 1: of their better players on the team, Fred Warner third rounder,

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00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: George Kittle, fifth rounder, you know, Deebo early second. But

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00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: they've they've had a lot. Hufunga, who was All Pro

752
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, he got hurt last year.

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00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Sixth rounder. So that Leonore who's become a really good player,

754
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: I think was a third or fourth rounder, so they

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Speaker 1: I'd feel pretty good about his eye in the mid rounds.

756
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: Cj Anders, who was a running back for the Denver Broncos,

757
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: who was an undrafted free agent out a Cow when

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00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos won the Super Bowl with Peyton Manning. When

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00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: he retired, he said, if it wasn't for Adam Peters,

760
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: I might not have been in the NFL, and I

761
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't have had the success I had. So always

762
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: root for that guy's coaching right now in the East Bay,

763
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: I think in Danville. But Adam Peters is good. Obviously

764
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: your immediate success is you know, Dan Quinn changed that

765
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Dallas defense pretty quickly. I would say that Dallas defense

766
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: has a little more talent than yours. But to me,

767
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: if the quarterback can just be pretty dynamic, even if

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00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: you're not the most polished passer immediately, I mean on

769
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: college tape, he throws a beautiful deep ball and he's

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00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: really accurate. But just let's just assume going from college

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: to the pros a little bit of a work in progress.

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00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: The athleticism should buy him a bunch of plays. Now,

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00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: he's not as dynamic in the open field as Lamar.

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00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't think laterally like making guys miss, but he

775
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: is really fast. He's got to find a way to

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00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: avoid those hits. But also, let's look at your division.

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00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants are a major question mark. I

778
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: think it's fair to say the Cowboys aren't quite as talented,

779
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: and the Eagles should win the division, but they're just

780
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of pressure on him. So I

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00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: think a good I think a really good season. If

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00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: the quarterback looks good and you win eight nine, I'd

783
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about where I was at. If I

784
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: was an old Commander fan, big fan, what's your recommendation

785
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: for a course in the Scottsdale area for two hundred

786
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: dollars or less. Bachelor party in October, I would go

787
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: to Whirlwind or Raven. It's Chandler and Phoenix. I would

788
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: look at those two courses, and I don't know about

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00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 1: this price point in October, but week of pal type

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00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: in we week go ko Pa. It's like three different words.

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00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: It's like an Indian reservation. Two courses. I don't know

792
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: how expensive it is in October, but it might be

793
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: right around there. I'd highly recommend it. Helly, I'd go

794
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: all Saturday, play thirty six holes, sweet track persall. Definitely

795
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: feels like a Shanahan type player. However, I feel the

796
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: Niners are going to look back in a few years

797
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: and regret not taking Keon Coleman. Bigger, tougher, able to

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00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: get up and contest balls. Your thoughts. It's a good point,

799
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: I think, and I like both. I definitely like Keon Coleman.

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Speaker 1: I think he makes a lot more sense with an

801
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: elite drop back quarterback, and in that offense, a guy

802
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: on any given game could throw at forty to fifty

803
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Speaker 1: times a game and just throw a bunch of fifty

804
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: to fifty balls it's not really how the forty nine

805
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: ers play, you know, in a perfect world with Kyle Shanahan,

806
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: their running backs have twenty five to thirty carries, and

807
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: they have of twenty five and under pass attempts. Obviously

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: that can change on a given game, but I'm saying

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00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: that's philosophically how they think about their team. When I

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00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, I want him thrown at forty five

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: times a game. More he throws better chances. I have

812
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: to dominate Saint dak Prescott where I want to run

813
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: the game, run the ball right, because that's the way

814
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: he has success. Now Purdy is better than a lot

815
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: of people give him credit for, but his coach doesn't

816
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: scheme that way. He schemes great route runners get open,

817
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: and we're gonna hit you on six or seven times

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00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: a game. Brandon Atyuk had a breakout year he at

819
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: seventy eight catches. So in a weird way, I think

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00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: a guy like Pearsall, who is closer to an Ayuk

821
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Speaker 1: type route runner goes over the middle, is much more

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Speaker 1: what they're looking for in their offense than Keon Coleman,

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00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: who is get me a guy outside who can just

824
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: win in one on one spots, Josh will throw it

825
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: up for you. So I think ke On Coleman is

826
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. I don't think he would be

827
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Speaker 1: utilized perfectly with the forty nine ers, no different than Debo,

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Speaker 1: Like if you put Debo on a lot of teams,

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Speaker 1: if you put Deebo on the Bills. I don't want

830
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: to say he's be useless because he's a very talented player,

831
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: but he is perfectly suited to play with this guy.

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean perfectly suited some guys, you know Shane Stiken,

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00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: when he changed the offense for Jalen Hurts, it went

834
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: very seamlessly, and then he left and it started looking

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00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: a little weird. That's not an apples to apples comparison,

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00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. The scheme for a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys. Most guys are not Randy Moss or

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00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: in the peak of my powers, I could play in

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Speaker 1: any scheme anywhere, doesn't matter. Even though I heard a

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Speaker 1: famous story one time about an assistant coach who was

841
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: on the Raiders that when they traded for Randy Moss

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00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: and that that team was terrible. And I don't know

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00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: if it was a preseason game or It might have

844
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: been a September game because the Raiders shared the stadium

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Speaker 1: with the A's And when I used to go to

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00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: the Raider games that first month, and anyone that's watched

847
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: football used to see it would have the infield in

848
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: the football field. So when you'd get to I forget

849
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: the exact yard lines, but somewhere around midfield, the second

850
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: base right there would be dirt. There'd be dirt. It

851
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: feels very very archaic, hard to even that wasn't that

852
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: long ago. That was like six seven, five, six years ago.

853
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: Hell less than that, three or four years ago. They

854
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: played with the dirt. Well, I don't know if it

855
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: was Week one because I don't know if he played

856
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: in the preseason, but they called a play and Randy

857
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: was supposed to run like a deep in or something

858
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: over the dirt, and he got close to the dirt

859
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: and he just started running around it, and obviously the

860
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: quarterback either airmailed him throw a pick. I don't know

861
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: the exact result. I just know it was a disaster.

862
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: They come to the sideline and they look at Randy

863
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: and they go, what are we doing? And Randy essentially

864
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: says like I'm not running the dirt man. It don't

865
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: blame him, like, who wants to get tackled on the dirt?

866
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: Just funny little Randy Bosstor. A couple years later, he's

867
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: on the Belichick Patriots and they go, uh scores five

868
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: hundred touchdowns. Cowboys fan here love the show. I think

869
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones saying this all in means we're all in

870
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: on Dak and McCarthy and a lot of players we have.

871
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: If they can't win a couple of playoff games, they're

872
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: gone your thoughts. I think that's probably what he really

873
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: deep down meant without articulating it that way. We're all

874
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: in this year, and if we don't make our first

875
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: NFC championship game in whatever twenty five plus years, heads

876
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: are rolling, starting with the coach in the quarterback. We're

877
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: not extending the quarterback, and we're definitely not extending the

878
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: coach now. I guess they could if they extend the quarterback. Obviously,

879
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. I would not at this point

880
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: in time. I'd let it play out. It's not like

881
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: Dak signing a discount now. So if he has a

882
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: bunch of success, you feel good about giving him a

883
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: bunch of money if he wins you three playoff games

884
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: and you lose in the Super Bowl, which I don't

885
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen. Hell, I don't even they're gonna

886
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: win a plaoff game. But Jerry till those dying day

887
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: is gonna believe this is our year. How about them Cowboys.

888
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm from Modreal, Canada, big fan of the podcast. I

889
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: have a technical question for you. I'm a tutor. I

890
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: sometimes give lessons online and I find myself being inspired

891
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: by your natural talent for keeping the conversation flowing smoothly.

892
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I was wondering when you record a podcast, do you

893
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: proceed from bullet points? Do you take any notes? For

894
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: all you do is jump right in and improvise. Any

895
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: tip would be greatly appreciated. Well, everyone's different. I don't

896
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: know how other podcasters do it. I write out my show,

897
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: not like word for word. I'm just saying, like I

898
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: write out topics, and I kind of write on a notepad.

899
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna talk about with the Bears,

900
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna talking about with bo Nicks, Max and DeVante,

901
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Like just my thoughts, I just write them on paper

902
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: and then I just press or Cord and I just talk.

903
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: But I think writing it out on paper for me

904
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: everyone learns different helps me just kind of crystallize it

905
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: in my head, know what I want to say. Again,

906
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: these are like scribbled bullet notes about Caleb Williams, about

907
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Fox charging for Super Bowl commercials, whatever, and just the

908
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: general point I want to make or what I'm interested

909
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: in talking about, or you know, sometimes if I look down,

910
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: it'd be for stats and stuff that I had written

911
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: down that are trying to make my point or whatever

912
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I think that crystallizes in my head. Now.

913
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm also kind of sick. I mean, I think about

914
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: the show all day every day, So anytime that I

915
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: have a thought, oh, that would be interesting, that'd be

916
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: an interesting angle, that'd be cool to talk about. I

917
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: have a little notepad in my iPhone that I'll jot

918
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: little notes and then I'll transfer that to the paper

919
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: as I'm getting ready. But you know, I don't also

920
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: have a set time when I record this if we're

921
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: not going live, So like right now, it's five o'clock

922
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, I had a bunch of stuff to

923
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: do this morning. Didn't get into the rhythm. I realize

924
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a morning If I was a radio host,

925
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: I would be an afternoon guy, not a morning guy.

926
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: My brain works better that way. Now I will if

927
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: I get up, sometimes six in the morning or seven

928
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: in the morning, I'll just grab a couple of coffee,

929
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: come to the office, write a bunch of notes or whatever,

930
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: and then go on with my day, work out, come

931
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: back and record, usually like after lunch, because that's when

932
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: I feel for the most part. I mean sometimes my

933
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: brain never opens up, but that's when I'm the most fluid,

934
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: is from like one to five. If I'm gonna record,

935
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: it's when I feel I do my best. But yeah,

936
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't. It's just kind of natural. And again this

937
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: is a This is one of those things that like

938
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: you're either kind of a talker or not, which ironically,

939
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: I'm kind of introverted, especially in my older years. I

940
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: don't really like love spending time around other people all

941
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: the time. Like I'm not some extroverted guy. This is

942
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: kind of my extroverted moment now. I play golf with

943
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the random people, I do things. But I'm not by

944
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: any means, but I do like to talk, always have.

945
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: I was probably definitely more extroverted when I was younger,

946
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: still have it in me, get a few cocktails, but

947
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: it's just kind of blend everything about my personality and

948
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: my brain and try to isolate it here into a

949
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: microphone mail back. Question, is Joe Thuny a future Hall

950
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: of Famer? My first reaction is no, without even reading

951
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: or question. Truthfully, I have no idea what makes a

952
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame lineman. He's a four time super Bowl champion.

953
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: He hasn't had many all pro seasons, but has easily

954
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: been the best offensive lineman in the Chiefs dynasty. Let

955
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: me look up Joe Thuni's resume here. He's a four

956
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: time super Bowl champion. I guess maybe one one with

957
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: the Pats and then he's won three with the Chiefs.

958
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: Has he really won four? You're right? Uh? Is he

959
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Famer? What active lineman do you see?

960
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: Having legitimate case? Four guy? Guys won four super Bowls?

961
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: Holy shit? What a career. Guys made a lot of

962
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: money too, and the chief signed him doing an eighty

963
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. He was a third round pick in sixteen.

964
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: He's lived pretty good football life. Gets drafted in the

965
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: middle of the second dynasty, the second half of the

966
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: dynasty for the Pats, wins a super Bowl, I think

967
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure against the Rams. Probably played on another team

968
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: that lost a Super Bowl. Do you think he's been

969
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: doing a lot of super bowls now thinking about it.

970
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: What a fascinating career in New England at sixteen. So

971
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: he lost it in the he won an AMC, he

972
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: lost to the Eagles, he beat the Rams, and then

973
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: he's been the Chiefs. The thing with offensive lineman, and

974
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: he's a very very good player, you know, like a

975
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: high end, excellent career, high end starter. He's been franchised.

976
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs gave an eighty million to me in a Hall

977
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: of Fame. Offensive lineman is like the best offensive lineman,

978
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: like what Jason Kelsey was for a long time, what

979
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is now, what Jonathan Ogden was. If he

980
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: did that at quarterback or even a wide receiver. I

981
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: think the team accolades, which is ironic because it's the

982
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: ultimate team position, the offensive line. Less powerful in your case,

983
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: so I would say no, but thanks for alerting me

984
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: on he's been to two Super Bowls with the Pats,

985
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: and he's been he's been a five Super Bowls. He's

986
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: been in league nine years. I don't think we talk

987
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: enough about that. All the guy does is Win wanted

988
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: to know give the Chargers overall in their entire draft.

989
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: I don't have it up right now. I've talked about

990
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: the alt pick, no brainer. The only thing I do

991
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: wonder is offensive linemen are very particular about their feet

992
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: and some guys can you know this happens with guards

993
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: and tackles can only play left or right guard, or

994
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: can only function on the right or left side. Not

995
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: everyone can go both ways. High end players. Obviously your backups,

996
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: you need a swing guard center and you need a

997
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: swing tackle. But like you know, Lane Johnson, I think

998
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: it's fair to say is much more comfortable at right tackle.

999
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: And maybe he's talked about that before in the past,

1000
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: Trent Williams left tackle. Now, both those guys, if they

1001
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: had to, could switch. But like there's a reason you

1002
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: know the left tackle. Once you state, you never move.

1003
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: But historically, if you have a starting left tackle and

1004
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: you draft a right tackle, once that guy either phases out, retires, whatever,

1005
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: you just bump that guy over. Nowadays, because there's so

1006
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: many rushers, the right tackle is very valuable. That's why

1007
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: a lot of teams look at Chargers are putting the

1008
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: emphasis there. My question with Joe Walt is he's never

1009
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: played right tackle. I don't even think he was alignment

1010
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: in high school, so he's only been a left tackle. Slater,

1011
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: I think, has done both. Now, historically it'd be like, well,

1012
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: I want to say a left tackle because you get

1013
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: paid more. Well, look at Lane Johnson paid a premium.

1014
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: Look at Penay Sool. He's got eighty five million dollars guaranteed.

1015
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: So if you're Slater and you bumped to the right side,

1016
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: if you're an all pro elite player, worst you're still

1017
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: gonna get I don't know, one hundred million dollars. I

1018
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: don't think historically it used to mess with the money.

1019
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it does anymore. My guess would be,

1020
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: if I was taking an educated guess, Slater's the right

1021
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: tackle and also left tackle. Less about one guy's better

1022
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: than the other just because one guy is more comfortable

1023
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: at it than the other unless they try all out

1024
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: there and he feels good about it. But if I

1025
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: had to take an educated guest right now, that's what happens.

1026
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: But back to the Chargers draft, Mconkee stud route runner.

1027
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I like Brandon Rice. I think he's a fascinating player.

1028
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was a good get in the transfer

1029
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: portal last year by USC they drafted the linebacker from Michigan. Well,

1030
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: obviously Jim and his defensive coordinator know that guy. Well,

1031
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I'd imagine that guy's gonna be a plug and play player.

1032
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Wouldn't shock me if they started. Chargers kind struggled with

1033
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: the linebacker for a while. Now, to me, it's gonna

1034
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 1: come down to if the running game is good, which

1035
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: Greg Roman and Harbaugh are good run game guys. Now

1036
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 1: they have an improved offensive line and the two pass

1037
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: rushers can stay healthy, I think it's less about your

1038
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: immediate Obviously mcconkeye's gonna play. But you know, Brandon Rice, Guys,

1039
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: we see guys like that all the time in the

1040
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: practice squad. Who knows. I mean, I like the guy,

1041
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: But if you told me he's a practice squad, I'm

1042
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: not gonna be shocked. Can Mack and Bosa give you

1043
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: a ninety percent of the games? Because if they do,

1044
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: then you're be in pretty good shape because your defensive

1045
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: line would be good. Or all those guys both within

1046
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: the training room and on injury reserve I think it's

1047
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: less about your draft beside like Alton Maconkey, and more

1048
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: about those two guys. Those two guys are a big

1049
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: question marks because if they're good, shit, you could be

1050
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: a problem. Jim's is too good question. Why haven't owners

1051
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: found a way to take more of the guesswork out

1052
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: of the draft, particularly as it relates to quarterbacks for

1053
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: such an important position on the field, which can make

1054
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: or break your organization no matter how well you scout,

1055
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: they seem content to leave much of it to chance

1056
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: and circumstance, rather than knowing whether or not the player

1057
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: is even worth investing time and resources into. Take soccer,

1058
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: for example, most of the premier talent is in a

1059
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: professional setting by age sixteen. If they're good enough for

1060
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 1: show promise, they will train with the first team. If

1061
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: they show their promise, they get a chance to play

1062
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: a meaningful game. Depending on how well they do in

1063
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: the game, they'll either get a first team spot or

1064
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: they're done, and it's just a matter of time before

1065
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: they go out there without having to pay millions of

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00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: dollars for them. I don't understand why teams are content

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: with current evaluation system. It's because college acts is the

1068
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: minor league system for pro football, and it is extremely

1069
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: successful in its own right economically, right, the big ten,

1070
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: the SEC are printing cash. The NFL invests zero dollars

1071
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: into that. So all the money the league is making,

1072
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: whether you got a good quarterback or not, you're like

1073
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: the government three years ago, just printing cash. So when

1074
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: you are a team that can't lose money and you

1075
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: don't have to invest in the training of the future employees,

1076
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: college football does that, and let's face it, they give

1077
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: a ton of good players every year. It's going to

1078
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a crapshoot, but you pay

1079
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: zero into it, and what would change, Like you would

1080
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: just have the access to pull those guys Like I

1081
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: actually think the system. If I was an owner, I

1082
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: would love the system. Yeah, we miss on a quarterback

1083
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: and it sucks. I'm still having a toime. If I'm

1084
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: the owner, you're talking from the owner's perspective. I want

1085
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: to invest hundreds of millions of dollars each into a

1086
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: minor league system which will never will never make money

1087
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: off of because they'll like one of the reason college

1088
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: has a lot of success is fifty thousand people a

1089
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: year go to you know, graduate from Ohio State or

1090
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: Michigan or or I guess they're going to school there

1091
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: at one time. I don't know what the graduating classes are,

1092
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: but those Big ten and SEC schools are massive. They

1093
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: have an enormous following, like the NFL, so the business

1094
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: model for that is thriving. Now that's going to change,

1095
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess as some of this, the dynamics of the

1096
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: revenue sharing just it's it's going to evolve over the

1097
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: next I mean fast, probably five years. But if I

1098
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: was an owner, like, I don't give a fuck. I don't.

1099
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to pay my own money for something

1100
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: that one won't net me any money in two. Like,

1101
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: it's not we still have to pay all the coaches

1102
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: to develop those guys. We know they are not cheap.

1103
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good setup, and I think

1104
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: it's the setup why football is dominating. College basketball sucks

1105
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: now why Because everyone's one and done. There's no like

1106
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: brand loyalty, Like the top players leave immediately, so no

1107
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: one watches the regular season and even the NCAA tournament's

1108
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: pretty random now where and I guess it always has been.

1109
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: But you don't even know the players on the big brands.

1110
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: College football feels like must watch. I mean this year

1111
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: college football everyone was watching Oregon, Washington, Bama, LSU, Georgia,

1112
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan. It was just it felt like NFL games.

1113
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: It's only gonna be bigger this year. It might be

1114
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: a little down actually, because I don't know the crop

1115
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks is as good as last year. But that changes.

1116
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: No one thought bo Nix would be a top fifteen

1117
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 1: pick at this time last year. Nobody was saying Jade

1118
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Daniel's name, Michael Pennis on a lot of boards, probably

1119
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: a third or fourth round pick, So things change now.

1120
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: It does feel like those guys were more established than

1121
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: some of these, Like Dion's getting into it on Twitter

1122
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: with like his former players. Everyone's like trying to make

1123
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: it some big symbolic moment, Like I just find it funny.

1124
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: Who even cares? This is all? This all theater guys,

1125
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: This is all once you start paying to play, which

1126
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: is what's going on in college football, Like everything's on

1127
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: the table at A scout tell me last year, he's like,

1128
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: you go into these programs, the coach will tell you, like,

1129
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, I care a little less now about some

1130
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: of these about certain relationships because like, hey, we just

1131
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: got you three hundred and fifty grand, you better get

1132
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: us fucking seventy catches or else we're gonna have a problem.

1133
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: So it's becoming much more cutthroat. And Dion's a pro

1134
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: guy and he's treating it like the pros. When you suck,

1135
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: we talk shit in college they do too, but they

1136
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: just never publicly do it because of recruiting. Now recruiting

1137
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 1: is irrelevant. Can you pay players? So it's that makes

1138
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: college football to me a little more interesting. Now. You

1139
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: could argue last year was a unique setup. Caleb at

1140
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: transfer from Oklahoma, Bo nixut transferred from from Auburn, Jayden

1141
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: had transfer from Arizona State, Pennix, Like we had all

1142
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: these transfers. It just worked. It's like one of the greatest,

1143
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: might be one of the greatest transfer portals we ever

1144
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: see if you think about it. Pennix, Nicks, JJ didn't,

1145
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: May didn't, but Jaden. I mean four of the six

1146
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: guys all transferred, all got drafted high and dominated. I mean,

1147
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: Bo Knix and Michael Pennox were dominating the Pac twelve

1148
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: at Oregon and Washington in the country. I mean they

1149
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: were two of the better teams in the country the

1150
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: last two years, both of them. I know Washington was

1151
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game, but the difference between Oregon

1152
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: and Washington this year's a coin flip. You talk about

1153
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: two of the best five teams transfer portal guys. Caleb

1154
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: was unique because he just went with Lincoln, but Jayden's

1155
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: probably more like what we might get this year, Like

1156
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: you're not really expecting it, and all of a sudden,

1157
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: this guy from Kansas State transferred to Florida, and all

1158
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're talking about him like a top

1159
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: twenty pick. That's gonna happen because I looked at a

1160
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: way too early twenty twenty five mock draft. Don't hate it.

1161
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't help but click on it. That's

1162
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: you know where all the kids on social media say

1163
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: you're just doing this for clicks. That is definitely for clicks,

1164
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: and it fucking worked. I clicked that fast, and then

1165
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: I was reading it like I haven't heard of this guy. Oh,

1166
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: this guy's sweet. Weren't many quarterbacks. Weren't many quarterbacks. I

1167
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: know Dion's tweeting his son's a top five pick. I

1168
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: do not believe as of the day he would go

1169
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: in the top five. He definitely would have gone on

1170
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: the top five of this draft. I don't think he

1171
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: would have gone on in the top twenty. Cowboy probably

1172
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: pick him at twenty whatever they picked twenty four, that's

1173
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: where he would have gone the Cowboys. But he would

1174
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: not have been picked based off last year in the

1175
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: top twenty picks. Zero chance. I've been watching college football

1176
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: long enough. Absolutely none. Doesn't mean he can't become one,

1177
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: but he's got a long way to go. The Georgia kid,

1178
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 1: Carson Beck, I'd be lying. I feel like I didn't

1179
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: watch that much Georgia last year besides like highlights of

1180
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. But he's definitely an interesting guy. And then

1181
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: we're just gonna need some other quarterbacks to figure it

1182
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: out because last year, coming into this season, we kind

1183
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: of knew Drake May definitely Caleb Williams, and there was

1184
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: just a bunch of other names. It doesn't feel like

1185
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: there's five names, which you could also say, like, who's

1186
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna need a quarterback next year? The Giants. I mean

1187
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: a lot of teams have quarterbacks that are going to

1188
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: be on their team for a couple of years. So

1189
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: maybe it's less dependent and maybe it will be a

1190
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: defensive heavy draft. I don't know his way to get

1191
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 1: a guy that falls football to click on your article

1192
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: week after the draft twenty twenty five mock first rounder

1193
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: who click the volume