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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of What in the Winkler. Today,

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Speaker 1: I have two very special guests who together created a

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Speaker 1: company called The Home Edit. Joanna Teplin is an American entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: co founder of the home organization company The Home Edit,

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Speaker 1: co host of the Netflix series Get Organized with the

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Speaker 1: Home Edit, and co host of ABC's Extreme Makeover Home Edition.

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Speaker 1: She's also a best selling author. Clia Sharer is an

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Speaker 1: American entrepreneur, co founder of the home organization company The

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Speaker 1: Home Edit, co host of the Netflix series Get Organized

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Speaker 1: with the Home Edit, and co host of ABC's Extreme

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Speaker 1: Makeover Home Edition. Cleia is also a New York Times

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Speaker 1: best selling author and a breast cancer survivor. The Home

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Speaker 1: Edit was founded in twenty fifteen by Joanna and Clia,

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Speaker 1: and their goal was to reinvent traditional organizing and merge

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Speaker 1: it with design, and it is become the biggest global

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Speaker 1: home and lifestyle company with a social media following of

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Speaker 1: over nine point eight million people. Well, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Of course, this is so fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful, and you know, I remember when you

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Speaker 1: guys first started, and you guys are like the og

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Speaker 1: chic organizers and you made it a thing like it

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Speaker 1: didn't exist. It really didn't. It's really amazing.

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Speaker 2: Joanna and I have been reflecting a lot because this

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Speaker 2: is our ten year anniversary. So the home edit was

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Speaker 2: we started the home at in August of two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five andine and a half years almost of the day.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, twenty fifteen, I said, two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, the math is not mathing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, but like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Five, no, no, twenty fifteen, I meant to say, and

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Speaker 2: you know, when we first started, their organizing has been

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Speaker 2: around forever. You know, Yeah, organizing is like something that

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Speaker 2: I'm sure cave men did and like it's a very

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Speaker 2: old important Yeah, yeah it is. But the way things

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Speaker 2: were being organized was super. First of all, I didn't

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Speaker 2: because it felt very like tape together, glued together, you know,

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Speaker 2: like sometimes people would use bin, sometimes they wouldn't, or

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Speaker 2: was all over the place, absolutely all over the place.

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Speaker 2: But one thing I realized for sure is that no

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Speaker 2: one was attempting to make organizing pinterest worthy instagram worthy.

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Speaker 2: It was definitely about utility and function, which is fair

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Speaker 2: that that is the purpose of organization. But I really

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Speaker 2: felt like we had an opportunity. I went to Parsons

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Speaker 2: School Design in New York. I have a long marketing

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Speaker 2: and social media background, and I was like, this is

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Speaker 2: our chance to actually do something different and bring a

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Speaker 2: new lens to the organizing world, make something really aesthetically pleasing,

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Speaker 2: you know, and kind of have a signature, Like why

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Speaker 2: don't we be why don't we do projects that really

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Speaker 2: are so clearly the home edit that when people see

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Speaker 2: them they automatically know you know them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like now it's like the pantry is somewhere you

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Speaker 2: It's valination. Yeah, it's destination. And you know, I really

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Speaker 2: wanted like a signature. Look. I wanted a signature. Look.

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Speaker 2: no one else was doing it, and I wanted Joanna

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Speaker 2: system that wasn't just like the p touch you know.

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Speaker 2: So those those were kind of our ideas going into it.

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Speaker 2: And of course everything had to be rooted in very

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Speaker 2: very very smart solutions and systems. But we always believe

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Speaker 2: and you can make anything beautiful, and we really did.

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Speaker 2: That was our hallmark. And I think that because of that,

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Speaker 2: I think that people see so much opportunity in organizing

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Speaker 1: Of one hundred. Yeah, it's become like it's kind of

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Speaker 1: I know, do you guys, So how did you meet?

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Speaker 1: Like how did this? I didn't realize that you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I didn't realize that. So I moved from

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Speaker 2: started thinking about all the things that I have done previously.

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Speaker 2: I used to edit out consigners clothes for a top

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Speaker 2: consignment website and I did that for years before moving here.

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Speaker 2: I kind of helped start the company and before moving here,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, what I really loved

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Speaker 2: is working with clients and editing things with them, like

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Speaker 2: I've always been a psychopath. I mean, like I you know,

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Speaker 3: My husband would like always walk into the living room

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Speaker 3: you know, and people are like what And people have

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Speaker 2: I just I've always worked for a company, and I've

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Speaker 2: So we're in Nashville and I meet a friend on

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Speaker 2: But my other really good friend, Joanna, who also moved

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Speaker 2: anything's ever been meant to be, this is it. So

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Speaker 2: Leah pitched the same thing to Joanna, and Joanna was like, no,

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Speaker 2: I am not interested at all. I don't need a friend.

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Speaker 2: I definitely don't need a business partner and I'm good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I was like okay. So I literally had to

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Speaker 2: about business partner. I was like, literally, I was like this.

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Speaker 2: We both moved to Nashville for our husband's job. We

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Speaker 2: And I even was like I have a Stella and Sutton,

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Speaker 2: And when I tell you this, I am not joking.

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Speaker 2: Instantly instantly sat down. We did not bother with like,

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Speaker 2: so what'd you do last week? We were like, what

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Speaker 2: With not one minute wasted, not one minute, And we

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Speaker 2: as business partners. And we never asked, by the way,

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Speaker 1: And now you guys like, are like family basically?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, not even basically, right. I think I think

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Speaker 2: there's something about like, you know, like when you live

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Speaker 2: of common interest that even though it's not legal, what

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Speaker 2: is that called common law? Common law?

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Speaker 1: Commond?

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Speaker 2: I feel like Joanna and I just the amount of

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Speaker 2: us common law married. Like I think that that's I

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Speaker 2: think in some countries that is possible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we talk a billion times a day.

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Speaker 3: and if we're not together, we're on we're communicating some

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Speaker 1: But that's so rare that you guys are business partners

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Speaker 2: And you know, it started as famously on the Today

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Speaker 3: This is so big news to me. But we've just

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Speaker 2: But Joanna meant that when we met and went into business,

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Speaker 2: that and that grew because of our you know, shared

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Speaker 1: So you were your business was always kind of in

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. They grew the same speed, which was crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was a fast speed for both things, but they

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Speaker 1: I don't have the same you know, crazy successful company,

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Speaker 1: but we do have a nonprofit and else. And she

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Speaker 1: she's an important person in my life. But when you're

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Speaker 2: And I think the reason why it worked is, well,

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Speaker 2: reason why it worked is because Joanna and I got

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Speaker 2: We were so well partnered that to this day people

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Speaker 2: ask us if we fight. To be honest, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We've had like literally two actual fights in ten years,

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Speaker 2: and fights over the business, I want to say almost zero. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we just right when it comes to something small one time.

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Speaker 3: Ziplock Storage, but like we were like, your idea is

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Speaker 2: Like but never anything of consequence, like like do you

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Speaker 2: is this the right buyer? One hundred percent? Yes. We

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Speaker 2: We've never had a different opinion about which is crazy,

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Speaker 2: Like it it's like you guys were meant to meet.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm obsessed with your new show.

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Speaker 1: what happens in there?

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00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: Screaming?

436
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: Like windows breaking, But like she's the only person that

437
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: I can just be with uninterrupted for you know, days

438
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: or hours, and like we can just it's like we

439
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: can read each what we're each needing in that moment.

440
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: And it sounds like that's what you guys have. And

441
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: she's been my friend since we were thirteen years old

442
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: and we're forty four, So that's amazing that you guys.

443
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: It's like whenever you find it, it's just the best

444
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: thing in the world, you know.

445
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: I was just about saying I said it best.

446
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: She was like one time she was like I just

447
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 3: need like like I need a minute to like decompress,

448
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: like we were in New York or something.

449
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: She's like, I just like I can't do it. And

450
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, so do am I supposed to

451
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: be around? Or am I not supposed to be around?

452
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: She was like, you don't count and I was like, amazing,

453
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: and not counting is like the best compliment. It's the

454
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: best comment. Basically, Basically we've never been friends and I

455
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: don't count. Are the two things that the two things

456
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: that mean the most.

457
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to have friends that don't count

458
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 3: because it's basically like being alone, but in the.

459
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: In the best way.

460
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's the coziest.

461
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: I think it's nice to have a friend around that.

462
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: Like if you wanted to read a book, like you

463
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: actually could, like you don't have to talk. No, but

464
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 2: I've tried that before. I never read the book.

465
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: I always.

466
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: Is it hard to on your phone or something? You

467
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like you don't have to just

468
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: be entertaining someone totally.

469
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: And do you guys? You guys have to travel a

470
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: lot for work. Is that hard?

471
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: It's just part of our life for the last tie years.

472
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, I like the balance. Let

473
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: me say that. I think that, you know, being home

474
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 2: is such an amazing thing to be able to obviously

475
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: be with the kids and like have that normalcy.

476
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, but it.

477
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: Needs to be peppered in for me with travel and

478
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: exciting things. That's just like who I am as a person.

479
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm not like a home body who can just you know,

480
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: be within my four walls. Yeah, so you know, I

481
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 2: I like to say, you know after you know, obviously

482
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,719
Speaker 2: I was born and raised in LA, but I went

483
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: to college in New York City, and I feel like

484
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: I was crate trained in New York, which was like

485
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: maybe like a hazard for me because now I'm just

486
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: like I, you know, I need to I need activity,

487
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: I need to be able to do things. I need

488
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: to like get out. Even just going back to La

489
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: is enough for me. You know, I don't need to

490
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: travel the world all the time, but it's like I

491
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: just I need that I need.

492
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: Do you guys miss La at all?

493
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: Uh? I mean La is like my absolute heart and soul.

494
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: I miss it so much. I'm so fortunate though that

495
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: we have a house there so that I can actually

496
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: be there alone. I my dream, and I think it's

497
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: actually maybe coming to fruition. This summer is to spend

498
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: like most of the summer in La. Last summer we

499
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: were filming, so we weren't able to do that, and

500
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: things have always come up that we weren't able to

501
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: do this or weren't able to do that. And so

502
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: this year, I think in July we're going to be

503
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: in La. And then I just talked John into like

504
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: a week trip to Tahoe, which I'm so excited about.

505
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: Amazing summer.

506
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 2: I used to go as a kid all the time,

507
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: and I just had that I don't know, like longing

508
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: for it, like I haven't been in so long, and

509
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: I just feel like California in the summer. That's why

510
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: I love the summer. Like Joanna hates the summer because

511
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: she grew up in the South where the summers are.

512
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: It's horrendous.

513
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: Commodity and the humidity.

514
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: Summer LA and the summer is amazing.

515
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah it's hot, but like it's a dry heat and

516
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 3: in the shape's lovelier when the night goes down and

517
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 3: that's like so hot all day.

518
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: Right, it's so.

519
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: Different in La.

520
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: I've never been to Nashville.

521
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: Oh you shoulda come, but you know, if you're gonna come,

522
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: you need to tell us when it has to be

523
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: during the fall or spring, and I create a visit

524
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: for you.

525
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I want to eat all the food there.

526
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: I feel like the food is great as long as

527
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: you don't need sushi. But you are you live in La,

528
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: so you don't need to worry about sushi. Actually, we

529
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: have a couple incredible there's an omakase sushi place that

530
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: opened up here called Sushi Bar.

531
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have been.

532
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: They have one in like Monacito and what like. They're

533
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: amazing and it's like a two hour omakase experience and

534
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 2: it's the best sushi I've ever had in my entire life.

535
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: So we do have those places, but not like a hey,

536
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: you want to like pop to the corner and get.

537
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Right right right, And I think that like a lot

538
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: of people, a lot of families from La moved there

539
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: after COVID, so you guys see like it must be it's.

540
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: In La light.

541
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it is so much of Californa. Honestly, half

542
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: of my friends are from Lay, California. So really funny,

543
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people moved here.

544
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: What are What's next for you guys, Like what would

545
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: be like the ultimate dream? Now? I mean, you guys

546
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: are already best on the New York Times bestsellers list.

547
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: You have shows three times, not the three times?

548
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: What would be next? Like, what would be your dream ideal?

549
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Next chapter? Well, we're next adventure.

550
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: We're doing a few things right now that I'm really loving.

551
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: I think first of all, we have started putting out

552
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: kids books It's one of the most asked about things,

553
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: is like, is it even worth getting organized if I

554
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: have kids? And so we have put out everything from

555
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: board books. We have another board book coming out so

556
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: that right when they're in their infancy they can be

557
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: learning about color sorting and the illustrations are it's so cute.

558
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: The kids books are so I need to get some.

559
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: I mean that's like exactly, we'll send them to you.

560
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: They are and then so cute. And then there's younger.

561
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: There's a picture book kind of like a Berenstein Bears

562
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: style book, you know, with like the pictures and the text,

563
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: but it's like more to read along. And that's called

564
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: The Rainbow Cleanup. And it's a little Baby Cleia and

565
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: baby Joanna having a slumber party and Joanna's a slob

566
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: and Clia little baby Cleia, she's name I think Mia

567
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: in this yeah, little little Baby Mia is like the

568
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: first few pages we just were laughing because MIA's face

569
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: is like like horrified, horrified, horrified by Joanna's room handa. Hannah,

570
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just saying for the purposes, so everyone Hannah, Yeahana.

571
00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: And then but it's so cute. Character comes to life

572
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: and it's like very magical and so cute and the

573
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: pictures are amazing. And then we have a teen book

574
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: and that's where you should start handing these things up

575
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 2: to your kids, because the team book is really all

576
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: about now. It's what we're all dealing with.

577
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: And I can't. I walk by my son's room and

578
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm literally like, who's going to pick that up for you?

579
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: Like what is that?

580
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Like what is happening?

581
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: They all of like raccoons. It is so unbelievable, just unbelievable.

582
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 1: Right.

583
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: The other the other thing that we're right now working

584
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: on is we just launched an app last week called

585
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: The Organizing Society and it is a place for.

586
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: Organizers called the Home edit. The community is the Organizing Society,

587
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: that's right, okay, And it's.

588
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: A place for professional organizers or organizing enthusiasts to come

589
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: together and have a community take. We have little like

590
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: motivation Mondays and Tip Tuesdays and all.

591
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: These content hub. It's a content hub of videos, every

592
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: day tutorials, folding tutorials, things like that. There's like a

593
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: theme every week. There's Q and as with us, there's

594
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, everyone can get on there. And there's something

595
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: called a helpline where organizers can get on there and

596
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: talk to them each other, talk to our professional organizers,

597
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: ask questions things like, hey, I'm working on a pantry

598
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: this week, and these are the measurements. It really is

599
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: being tough to figure things out. And it's it's a

600
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: hub really for organizers who are organizing enthusiasts to really

601
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: have community, have connection, learn a lot, you know, kind

602
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: of all our all of our tips and tricks they

603
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: can get access to and access to us and access

604
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: to our organizers. And I think that at this point,

605
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, we've we've organized for a million people and

606
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: when our Netflix show came out, it launched ten million

607
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: organizing companies, truly, and so now we're like, you know what,

608
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: We're all this. There's a huge community out there, and

609
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: let's try and like, you know, bring things together. We're

610
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: still I think, you know, I don't say this in

611
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: a braggadocious way. I really believe it. I think we're

612
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: still considered the gold standard of organizing. And I think

613
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: that we can create a community of like minded people

614
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: who can.

615
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: Take our learnings and tips and tricks and go out

616
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: and really like build their own businesses.

617
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, is it ever hard seeing somebody sort of

618
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: like take your idea or you're just.

619
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: Like are because you know, we launched books and shows

620
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: and we literally showed everyone how to do it and

621
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: right you know in the beginning of yeah, because you're like, wow,

622
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: we put so much thought and effort into that.

623
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like something you're so I mean, it's it's

624
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: like you're it's like another child.

625
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: People would literally take our photos and just try and

627
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: absolute copy them.

628
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that people would. You know, my handwriting was

629
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: and still is our labeling font. Yeah, and we turned

630
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: it into a font. But forever, for years, I hand

631
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: labeled everything, myself everything, and you know, people trying to

632
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: even copy my handwriting. I was like, gosh, you know,

633
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: this took a lot of thought for us.

634
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: To come out with, and you worked really hard on

635
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: being friends for this.

636
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but but you know what, Joanne is exactly right,

637
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Like as the years went by, once Netflix came.

638
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: Out, right, you guys were like, it's it's it is and.

639
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: You know, we've written books about how to do it

640
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: at this.

641
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: Point, so it's flattering, I'm sure, you know, because it's.

642
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: Great and honestly, if we can help all these it's

643
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: usually women that start these businesses, these successful you know,

644
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: be successful entrepreneurs in their own area. Amazing, Like that's amazing.

645
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: So I was so happy to contribute to the future

646
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: of all these other businesses.

647
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Is there one organization trend that you're like, we're over it?

648
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: Chalkboard labels? Okay, too fast, say that too fast? Say

649
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: that that trend? To me is what, like it's like

650
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: that was like nine years ago, Like, let's not do

651
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: chalkboard anymore.

652
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: Right, But Joanna, would you have one that you know,

653
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Speaker 3: I would say that wasn't even on my radar because

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Speaker 3: we'd moved on from it so fast, but long ago, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think. And just making sure that the systems are

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Speaker 3: going to work, you know, a trend like not organizing

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Speaker 3: for the here and now, for like a snapshot in time,

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Speaker 3: but like making sure that the systems that you set

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Speaker 3: into place actually are at long lasting systems. Right.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm actually I'm so proud of our systems

661
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Speaker 2: and so proud of what we create because I could

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Speaker 2: go back to the earliest project, like one of the

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Speaker 2: first projects ever and be really proud of it, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't think we dabbled in trends.

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Speaker 1: You know you guys right, well you honestly you made

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Speaker 1: the trends.

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Speaker 2: Well, we tried to forge our own part, right, you know,

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Speaker 2: and so we still stand by and believe. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I could flip my phone back ten years and I'd

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Speaker 2: be like that, okay, girl, like that project look good.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think that we really got into that.

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Speaker 3: But chalkboard labels specifically, yeah, we're done with the chalk

673
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Speaker 3: bread They were just so like and.

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Speaker 2: No offensive hobby lobby, but like they were so you

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Speaker 2: know with like the little shape, the little clothes pin,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I was just like, we're moving on,

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Speaker 2: We're moving on, We're moving.

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Speaker 1: There's like now there's like all these like TikTok accounts

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Speaker 1: where they like it's almost like the most relaxing thing

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Speaker 1: where they'll just like organize their.

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Speaker 2: Fridge ASMR yes have you. Oh, we we have a

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Speaker 2: whole channel built on our our TikTok is like ASMR

683
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Speaker 2: fridge Central. So it's crazy do like re stalking videos

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Speaker 2: where it's just like even just putting things in a bin.

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Speaker 2: It's like yeah, yeah, everyone is gets very very it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like it's the most it's like you'd sometimes like

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Speaker 1: I just started to figure out TikTok, but I'll be

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Speaker 1: like I'll come to offway through and be like, why

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Speaker 1: am I watching this crock pot recipe in the middle

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Speaker 1: of like Florida, Like what where where? Where's where's the

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Speaker 1: day gone? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That is TikTok though, I mean, yeah, tikcock. So when

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Speaker 2: it got banned for twenty four hours, my daughter, who

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Speaker 2: is obviously obsessed with TikTok, yeah, she was like and

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Speaker 2: then it got reinstated so fast, and she was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I thought I'd be so sad when TikTok

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Speaker 2: went down, but now it's back, and I was just

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Speaker 2: kind of like looking forward to doing something with my life,

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Speaker 2: like could we still work on that? Yeah, let's still

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Speaker 2: let's how to do something.

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Speaker 1: With our lives.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yez said, that's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, thank you so much for talking with me.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful. This was so great and I'm so.

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Speaker 2: Excited for this app. So it just launched last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just if you send me the home edit, it's there.

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Speaker 2: I think the Organizing Society it might also be there too.

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Speaker 1: I'll be getting my my my teenager.

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Speaker 2: You're book, we will send one to you.

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Speaker 1: We will say it is Yeah, I mean I it's

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Speaker 1: like that part of that brain, the executive functioning part

712
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Speaker 1: is just like for all kids. I think it's such

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Speaker 1: an important and to that have agency over their room.

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Speaker 2: Totally, you know, and the stuff we talk about, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fun with it. You know, like we have stuff in

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Speaker 2: the book for like creating a content corner or do

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: you know. It's like things that you know, sports and

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00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff that needs so much organization.

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Speaker 2: You know, it runs the gamut, but it allows them

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Speaker 2: to tap into the areas of their life that are

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Speaker 2: important to them and then make it fun. And if

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Speaker 2: they're really proud of something, if they love it, they're

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Speaker 2: going to keep it up. Yeah, or well you're not true,

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Or I'll just like you take away whatever, yeah exactly,

726
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Speaker 1: or we'll just put a system in place where they get.

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Speaker 2: Something taken away and I'm just kidding exactly.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, so much, Thank you, Thank you. When

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Speaker 1: you come to LA please, let's get to say we

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Speaker 1: need to get lunch.

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Speaker 2: We go with like, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will not be dinner. It will be lunch,

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Speaker 1: don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's okay, that's okay. I make exceptions for dinner.

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Speaker 2: She's also okay for five pm dinner, Like, yeah, is

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Speaker 2: usually okay to listen.

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Speaker 1: Rob and I are going on a date on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, please make it at six pm

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Speaker 1: and we will sit at the bar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it could be bye. Yeah, it is, yeah,

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Speaker 2: late six, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is, but Jules has a game, so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss it, so I'll do six. But if

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Speaker 1: someone's like, let's have dinner at nine, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Eight eight also like seven also is upsetting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be back in my bed, yes,

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Speaker 2: Like why are we delaying? Like hanging out? You know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, why are we I'm on the

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Speaker 2: couch to watch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just like to sit down. Then I'll have to

751
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Speaker 1: like I can't get back up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly under five five or bust.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll see you at five in l at

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Speaker 1: a sushi.

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Speaker 2: Got it? Thank you guys so much. A good one bye.

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