1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, fourteen 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Aneus Williams. What's up, everybody. 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with four national Walter Payton NFL Man 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: of the Year Award winners, and this podcast has been 6 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: so good we're gonna continue it. Listen in. Here's what 7 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: I want to transition to. How do you get to 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: the point as a man to say I need a 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: mentor because a mentor? I've heard wise men say the 10 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: mentor shows up when the pupil is ready. So how 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: did you know when? When do you know you need 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: a mentor? Jason? I think if everybody is different, but 13 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: you know we all need one, whether we admit it 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: or not. Just at what point are you gonna admit 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: that you need it, you know, and swallow your pride? 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: For me, it was easy because I, like I said, 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I was lost and didn't know you know, I had 18 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: so many empty, empty feelings, empty nights, um you know, 19 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: just laying in bed wondering like what is what is 20 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: life like? Where am I going to go from here? 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Like where you're going to have these thoughts. Yeah, all 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: the time, all the time. Did anyone know I didn't 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: have anybody to share with really, you know, I didn't 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: talk to my mom. But I've always been an introvert 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, um, you know, particularly personally so. 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: But there were you know, there would be people I 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: talked to occasionally. The guy talked about Mr Ricus, But 28 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: we all need those mentors. And you know, like Work 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: and Derek were alluding to it or touched on a 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: little bit. But the negative stuff that's what shaped me 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways is a negative stuff, you know, 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: drove me really, and that I always tell people, I'm 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: not afraid to fail. I will, i will buy off 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: more than I can chew and I'll and I'll attempt it. 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to fail like I you know, I 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: hate losing more than I love winning. But I'm not 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: afraid to fail. The only thing I'm afraid to fail 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: at is the one thing that had me so messed 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: up in my life for a long time, and that's 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: being a dad. Like if I fail at being a dad, 41 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: just just take me off the earth. Everything else. If 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: I lose a game to get involved in the business, 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: and fails whatever, it's life less thing you move on. 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: But the only thing I will never fail that in 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: his life. And I say with the utmost confidence and 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: in cockiness and arrogance, I will not fail it being 47 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: a dad. That's that is the only freaking thing on 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: this plane that matters of me. Because I had so 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: many nights where I lay in bed and I will 50 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: cry and think about, like, where's my dad. I don't 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: have a dad, you know. I'd see I'd see kids 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: in high school in college that that their dads will 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: be at the game. And I used to get tear 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: yatt seeing teammates or friends that you know, their dad 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: would come and put the arm around them and hug them, 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: and they hugg their dad. Remember my high school quarterback, 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: in my college quarterback to who I just saw you 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: months ago, he would see his dad. He would always 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: kiss his dad and the che and his DA would 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: always kis him on the cheek or in the head. 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, I would get cheers and I'm like, damn, like, 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: how do you have that relationship with somebody like I 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: just that was so foreign to me. But I have 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: a fifteen year old now and I kissed him on 65 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: ahead all time and a matter of fact true story, 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: like three or four days ago, we're at a restaurant 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: and he it was my fifteen year old son. I 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: have a fifteen year old, thirteen year old and twelve 69 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: year old, two boys and a girl. We're at a 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: restaurant and people were coming up in a restaurant and 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, asking for pictures and autographs and saying hello whatever, 72 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: waving my fifteen year old, you know, and this is 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: kids start to feel themselves. A fifteen think they're cool, 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: especially him. He thinks he you know, he's the best 75 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: things since like cheese, but you know, works at it. 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: But he's you know, he's feeling himself a little bit. 77 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: He gets done eating and you know, we're in a 78 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: big round booth. He got he got up, he was 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: on the out of the booth. He got up and 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: came over and went to sat down on So I 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: screwed it over so we can sit down next to 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: me because he's we're very close, and he's like no, 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: he stopped, pull my leg over and set on my 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: lap and leaned to my chest. Fifteen year old kid, 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: firstman in high school. And he lays his hand and 86 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: this is from everybody in the restaurant. And my my 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: other son, my thirteen year old, who was a little 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: more reserved or whatever. He tells my daughter to scoot 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: over who is sitting next to me, because now he 90 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: wants to sit next me. So they're like they fight 91 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: for the time, and I'm sitting there and I kissed 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: them both on the head, and I promised the guy. 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: We were sitting in Jay Alexander's and Plantation, Florida, and 94 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: they didn't see it, but I sat back and cried 95 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: in that restaurant because that's what I lived for. So 96 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: those negative things he talked about earlier that shaped me 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: to be the only thing that matters on this planet 98 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: is my three kids being a dado. Thank you. When 99 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: I died. They could take away the Hall of Fame, 100 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: they could take away all the records, that could take 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: away all that stuff. But as long as my kids 102 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: bury me and say that, dude, right there was that, 103 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: you know what was the best? Thank you for sharing that. Man. Man, 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: you're getting ready to get us crimes subject. I want 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: to transition into something um community. What about in the 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: community in terms of how do we impact our community 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: when they come down to mentors. You know, when you 108 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: guys were talking about the community, both of you guys 109 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: said they either use it or a village or a 110 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: community raising kids. That's probably something we as legends and 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: maybe even the league could start encouraging again. How would 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: we encourage players, a legends to date in the community, 113 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: to u be mentors now, to give back what they 114 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: have been given? LADAINI well, I think when you really 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: think about your life experiences and and like where we 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: are now, we're older men and retired, and when we 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: think about what shaped us, a lot of it obviously 118 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: is to community. But I think you have to tap 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: into how that was done, Like, what were the things 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: that helped inspire you about the community. What were the 121 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: things that helped you, you know, say, man, I want 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: to go further than anyone has ever gone. I want 123 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: to be the first graduate in my family. What made 124 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: you want to do that? And I think a lot 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: of times, I'll tell guys this all the time. Guys, 126 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: if you don't care about your community, don't expect anyone 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: else to care about it. Because we're raising those kids. 128 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: I think about coaching my son's flag football team and 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: a lot of those kids are from my community, and 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: you start to really just care about how they're being 131 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: raised and and and seeing a kid coming, you know, 132 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't have a father, but his mother brings in 133 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: the practice all the time. And so taking up on 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: myself to dig a little deeper into that kid and 135 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: put my owns around son. Where you go to school? 136 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Let like, what do you like to do? You know, 137 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: just taking the time to just get to know these 138 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: kids because they are in our community. And so I think, 139 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, we have to encourage guys to just simply 140 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: care about their community, think about those kids in the 141 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: community and how we want to affect their lives, because 142 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna be older men one day, and we want 143 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: those kids that come back and say, you know what 144 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I remember you know j T. You know when I 145 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: was a young football player, he poured into me and 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: he really changed my life. Derek, I want to come 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: to you because we have the millennial generation. We have 148 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the younger players, you know, Jason, all the guys they 149 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: got the kids that say, man, these kids are different, 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: they don't love the game, Derk, how do you connect 151 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: and mentor some of the younger generation and younger players today. 152 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: I think the first thing that these young players realized 153 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: as as Ladaniel says, one, I care and it's authentic. 154 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't judge. I only care, and I take the 155 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: time to meet them where they're at. I don't try 156 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: to compare them as when we played. I try to 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: connect with them in the game where they had now 158 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: and each player has their own connection point, and I 159 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: invest the time to spend that connection point just to 160 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: realize it is a piece of us that's old and 161 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: the old school part of it's still in these kids. 162 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: We just got to find a way to get to it. 163 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Whether it's through it Madden, whether it's through texting, whether 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: it's through face timing, whether it's through all the technology 165 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: tricks that they have now social media. I find the 166 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: connection points to get them to really see what they 167 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: care about, and some some conversations are harder than others. 168 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: And what they've come to realize is all these plays 169 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: us knows. I'm not going to give up. If it 170 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: takes me twenty Texas to get to you, I'm gonna 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: text you twenty times the same text and ended with 172 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: I care. And they sometimes want you to prove yourself 173 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: to it. You know, it's it's sort of sad, But 174 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: to me, it don't matter because I see the bigger picture. 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: It's like you gotta come in there with your resume. Hey, 176 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: this is who I am. Where most people would think 177 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: these kids should know who we are. No, I'll tell you. 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: Ask me a question, I'll tell you who I am. 179 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: And by the time we get through the conversation, they 180 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: see I've I've humbled myself where I've seen other players 181 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: in opposition to feel the young kids need to humble 182 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: themselves to us. And they do have a point when 183 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: they get to that, but I think I've earned their 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: respect and the fact that they see how go havee alone. 185 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: They want me to go to meet them what they're 186 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: at because at the end of the day, I want 187 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: them to understand that they are a gatekeeper of this game, 188 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: and this game is so much bigger than the white 189 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: lines and the green grass that they play in. And 190 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: it's a tough conversation for something, because some of it 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: is very real, talking real issues that they're dealing with. 192 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, whether it's last year in the stance that 193 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: they wanted to take without national anthem as you know, 194 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: as you've had something to say. Tough conversations to asking 195 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: them about their own team, their own hometown. You know, 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: how do you deal with family that want to support 197 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: your mission and you don't want to support their's. At times, 198 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I find myself wanting them to care as much as 199 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I do, but I gotta understand that they don't. And 200 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's not that one player can as much, but 201 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's ten players caring at ten percent versus one 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: player caning at a hundred. So I just try to 203 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: connect with them like that and this, And that's how 204 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: I say, the simple thing is that I don't judge them. 205 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: I just try to connect with them. And the ones 206 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: that I miss on, I pray to God that somebody 207 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: else grabbed a ton and could reach that player that 208 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to. You know, thank you, Derek Kid's Uh, 209 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: it's a key point. And what I'm thinking about now 210 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: the legends. We've already with the league office connected to 211 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: over six thousand legends, over six thousand, And what I'm 212 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: thinking now is what could we say that we'll get 213 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: a legend ignited because you have some legends who are 214 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: kind of bidder. It didn't go so well. A lot 215 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: of us had pretty good careers. What about the guy 216 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: who maybe didn't take advantage of what I call a 217 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Cairo's moment and they lost. They're out the league. Now 218 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: something got them distracted or they didn't get a mentor, 219 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: so they also have some negative experience they can now 220 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: share and mentor a younger player. Is there somebody or 221 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: something you would speak to that legend, let's just talk 222 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: about for you, Jason, encourage that legend to be a 223 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: good father. About that? Wow, I mean, it's it's probably 224 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: easy one for me to talk about because that's it's 225 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: a passion for it. But um, as I said earlier, 226 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: there's no greater job, there's no better honor, the greater 227 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: blessing in the world, and than having the child and 228 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: being a father. And it's our job and and really 229 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: my privilege to be able to help that help my 230 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: kids grow. And I think for every father it's you know, 231 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: there's a tremendous amount of responsibility that goes along with 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: being a father, bringing someone in this world, and we 233 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: have an obligation to try to raise them right and 234 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: and to to help them not make the mistakes we made. 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, now, with teenage boys, I realized they're going 236 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: to make mistakes. I've been a fifteen year old kids too. 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna make mistakes that you learn from those. 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: The crime I think is allowing a kid to make 239 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: a mistake and then no one being there to kind 240 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: of help him out a little bit, no one, no 241 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: one being there to pick him back up, dust them off, 242 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, you did that, here's why, here's why 243 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: it happened that way. Now move forward. Listen, just because 244 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: we made mistakes in life, or we had a failure 245 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: in life, or or we lost the situation or whatever, 246 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: if it's a you know, you played two years in 247 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: the career, that's two that's two more years, and then 248 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: the population use those two years to improve somebody else's life. 249 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, you use those two years and make an 250 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: impact on somebody else. And you know it goes. It 251 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: goes in sports, and it goes in the community, you know, 252 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and at homes. They're all intertwined, you know. And that 253 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: one one thing I always say is, you know, coach 254 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: high school football now. And you know I've said it 255 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: in the staff meeting several times. You know, I've got 256 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: guys that coach with me that are former NFL players, 257 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: and you know, kids are gonna look at a former 258 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: player and be like, if this guy made it to 259 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: the lead to the level I want to get to, 260 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: But there's still gonna be a wall there just because 261 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: we we were on that platform one. That stage four 262 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: does not mean all doors are open and all ears 263 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: are opened. The doors may open, but the ears will 264 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: still be closed. And I always say, Derek kept talking 265 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: about it. I always say to them, they don't. They 266 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: don't care what you know, until they know that you care. 267 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: When they realize that you care, they're sponges. So care, 268 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: reach out and care. It takes. I mean, it's a 269 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: it's a really cool thing we get to do. Like 270 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: we walk around, you know, through an airport or the 271 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: grocery store, want the grocery stores, but wherever, anywhere you go. 272 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, it takes ten seconds to give a kid, 273 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, kid sees you and gets wide. It takes 274 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: ten seconds and give him a high five and mess 275 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: up his hair and then you just watch him light up. 276 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: You know what takes. It might take one minute in 277 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: the airport, or maybe it's ten minutes on a flight 278 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: where the guy sitting next to you don't really feel 279 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: like talking, but he sits down once the top takes 280 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: five or ten minutes, and all of a sudden, that's 281 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: a connection. You made a connection with him. You've been 282 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: packed in his life, and who knows what works at 283 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: a community of people that come in and out of 284 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: your life for you know for a period of time 285 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: that that guy may come into your life in a 286 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: in a community, you know, community service kind of way, 287 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: in a business way, and some some kind of way. 288 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it's somebody else. Maybe I have a teammate that's 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: dealing with something and this guy happens maybe had a 290 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: teammates looking for a this guy happens to own a 291 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: car dealership, and you made that connection. It's it's about 292 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: helping people cross that bridge. And I use that a 293 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: lot because I grew up in the city that's got 294 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: a little bridge in Pittsburgh. It helps help somebody else 295 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: cross that bridge to get out because somehow, some way, 296 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: somebody took me to a bridge and pushed me across it, 297 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: and I got out and then the world became a 298 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: whole new place to me. Thank you, Jason. You know 299 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: the day what you I'm thinking about twelve I think 300 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: you said twelve years old, twelve years old, how important 301 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: is it for that legend when you just obviously he's renowned. 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: We got that part, but just as Jason said, it's 303 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: not about being renowned. One of the reasons why we 304 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: termed the legend it's because it wasn't the amount of years. 305 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: Is if you play in the National Football League, you 306 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: are the hero in your community no matter no matter 307 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: how many years and how many training camps you got, 308 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: there's some kid that wants to at least get a 309 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: shot and we'll cut off an arm. So for you, 310 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: how would you encourage the legend? Now? How would you 311 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,239 Speaker 1: get encourage them to get involved in terms of mentorship? 312 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: And now I'm talking about to just some of those 313 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: little young athletes that around them. You know, there's a 314 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: there's an obligation that we have. Um talking about that obligation. Yeah, 315 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: the obligation that we have, you know, to to give 316 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: back and to impact someone and to help you know, 317 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: the younger generation or the young kid on their journey, 318 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: you know. And and you know, I think about this, 319 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: like how do you get that obligation? Like how do 320 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: you you know, feeling in your spirit and be motivated 321 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: by the obligation you have. And I think it it's 322 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: simply it's getting out in the community. Because I've done 323 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of community work around this country and getting 324 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: out in the community and seeing different people in different 325 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: walks of life who are struggling and and but but 326 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: still have love in their heart and just trying to 327 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: get by. How can I not have this person? There 328 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: are so many people like that in this country that 329 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: are like that, And so I think that's how you 330 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: you you build the obligation within us to do that. 331 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: And like we said, you know, I think it's it's 332 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: real sad that a lot of us who have made 333 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: it to the National Football League don't don't get back 334 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: in our community because the percentage what we talked about 335 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: with less than one percentage. Why would I see a 336 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: kid climbing the mountain that I've climbed before, and I 337 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: know how hard it is to do And I said, 338 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I had on the sideline when this watching this kid 339 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: struggle up this mountain. You know, he's trying his hardest 340 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: to get there, and he's doing everything he can to 341 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: get there. Why wouldn't I want to have this kid? 342 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's someone just trying to do it the 343 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: right way. And we talked about the right way. What 344 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: is that staying focused on your task, standing focused on 345 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: your craft, you know, staying focused on the theme that 346 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: it takes to get to the next level. Yeah, at 347 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think it's it's the 348 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: obligation we have. And again I always say this, Charles 349 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Barkley said we are not role models. Charge is wrong. 350 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: We all role models. Because there's some kid wait across 351 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the country that has been waiting to meet me and 352 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: I haven't met him yet. But guess what, I can't 353 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: wait to meet him. The part I want to get 354 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: to you with you to close out work is man, 355 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: you give away these houses. And it goes back to 356 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: and we didn't hit enough for this part with our 357 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: current players, with the kneeling down and now the league 358 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: partner with the players coalition and dedicating a certain amount 359 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: of revenue in order to change our community. Is that 360 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: social activism? It's also justice reform, judicial reform. But the 361 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: other part, when I see, okay, once we do get together, 362 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: how can we really impact the community? Right? It's one 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: thing we're kneeling down, but when you now get up 364 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: and you say, okay, what's ailing our community? And what 365 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: are some things we can intentionally do to change it. 366 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: You've been doing giving these houses. Were I even heard 367 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: that I think that Shaun Watson's family lived in one 368 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: of the homes. Uh, could you talk about that? Yeah? 369 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: So you know, the Homes for Holliday's program has been 370 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: around now going on twenty years. So we're celebrating twenty 371 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: years year since I started this program in n Why 372 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: did you start this? Well? I started it because my 373 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: mom her dream was her own her own home, and 374 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: she never had that opportunity. So being challenged by Coach 375 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: Dungey at that time my rookie year, it's it's like, 376 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: if you don't live in this community, you want to 377 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: be a part of this community. And you know, I 378 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: thought about my mom and her dream of homeownership. So 379 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, let's just try to help a family, 380 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, this year and see how it goes. And 381 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: we did three homes that first year. And what the 382 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: program is is that we give five thousand dollars down 383 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: payment and we fully furnished their homes with food from 384 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: len It's guarding two TVs all the way down to 385 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: the toothbrush, right. So we've we did three homes that 386 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: first year and I can tell you I went home 387 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,239 Speaker 1: that night. I went back home and it was just 388 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: like that was pretty cool what I did. But then 389 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: when you watch the news, it's like, oh my god, 390 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: how emotional. You know, It's like, oh my, I just 391 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: I just changed someone's life. And when I when I 392 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: felt that, just watching that clip and I was in 393 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: the moment the later squeezed me and I was like 394 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: I said, I was with one sixty once, you know, 395 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: want seventy. The later squeeze mean took all the wind 396 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: out of me that day that I headed her the keys. 397 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: And it's like, why this this is truely impactful? And 398 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: um today, I mean we're up two hundred and fifty nine, 399 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen markets, nine states, so trying to grow 400 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and expand, you know, and we did a hundred and 401 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: fifty homes and twenty years. So I challenged board members 402 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: and donors and stuff, saying we want to do a 403 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifth and ten. All right, so that's doing 404 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: like fifty homes a year, just moving forward. And you know, 405 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: two experience what I experienced. I mean, my mom was 406 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: a police officer. Just thinking back growing up, I mean, 407 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: guy broken our house, people broke in the house and 408 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the police cars on the outside. I mean that's how 409 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: rough it was, right, So it didn't really matter. But 410 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I knew her dream and I knew how hard she worked, right, 411 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: I knew the commitment and the sacrifice that she made. 412 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: We try to help people that are helping themselves because 413 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't believe in handouts, right. I believe and if 414 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: you're working hard, it is my obligation, right, It's it's 415 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: my duty to continue helping you, push you down the road. 416 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: I just love helping people, right. I mean when when 417 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: I lost my mom, the city of Baton Rouge started 418 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: the fund for us. That community truly taught me what 419 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: it meant to care about your neighbor, you know, to 420 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: love one another. I know Derek talked about his grandmother. 421 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, my grandmother. I ain't dinny of people people 422 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: are actually living in the house that I had no 423 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: idea who they were. She's like, I just need to 424 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: do this, right. She had such a giving heart, and 425 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: every story that I hear, I mean, you haven't heard 426 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 1: the story of this today from a lady and said, Hey, 427 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: I knew your mama all these years. She was a 428 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: great lady. She was so awesome. I heard that today 429 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: in the airport, all right, just like she was an 430 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: amazing woman. I mean, just to hear how thoughtful she was. 431 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: You know, It's it's kind of crazy and a lot 432 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but the guy who was 433 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: convicted of killing my mom, my mom actually caught him 434 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: years before that, right and let him go. It's like 435 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: he was shoplifting and just you know, let him go. 436 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: It's like, listen, stop this nonsense, you know, move on, 437 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: and that story is surface that, you know, the guy 438 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: who actually, you know, I was convicted of killing you know, 439 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: murder my mom actually let them go years before. So 440 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: it's just just tells you how great our heart was. 441 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: That it's not about punishing individuals, is about you know, 442 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: trying to help people that that needed help. So wow. Yeah, 443 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: as we close out this podcast, I think about a 444 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: word that keeps coming to my mind. It's cairos. Cairos 445 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: is a word that says you have time. In other words, 446 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: we all have twenty four hours. The succession of time 447 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: is chronals, but cairos is when there'sn't a task that 448 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: has to be done within a certain amount of time. 449 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: It's a moment and as I've listened to every story 450 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: as a proverb that says being a person of faith, 451 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: that says, the poor and the rich meet together. God 452 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: is the maker of them both. The context of it 453 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: is the opportunities that you get. You talked about being 454 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: a dad, right, we have what chiros amount of time? 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: And then that one though is is up right. I 456 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: hear your mother as a legacy living on right, her 457 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: mentorship now now going in terms of passing. Now she's transitioned, 458 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: and hearing her her voice still is heard through every 459 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: house when someone squeeze at the hundred and sixty pounds, right, 460 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: a little guy, right, I was proud. I was. And 461 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: then you're sharing what what's happening in the community. This 462 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: is what we do with this podcast, man. This is 463 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: it goes from It starts off, okay, we legend, but 464 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: when when all boils down, it really appealed on your 465 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: back and you find out all of us needed very 466 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: similar things. What I would say is that you know, 467 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: a lot of times I think guys think that they 468 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: can do it alone, that they don't need assistance, right, 469 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: And I know what the whole social justice issues are 470 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: standing and there and so forth. It's like if we 471 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: come together, and we can do so much more buying, 472 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: banding together right and coming together to support each other 473 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: in their causes. And I just feel like, yeah, guys kneeling, 474 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: they have a right to do that. I understood the issues, 475 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: but now what are the actions that's going to follow that? Right? 476 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times we do a lot 477 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: of talking and we don't have to follow through. You know, 478 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: I think it's important that you know, we continue to 479 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: have the right direction. But you know, you live, Everyone 480 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: has experiences and and we all have different experiences in 481 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: our lives. We live from and learn from those experiences 482 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: and how those experiences impact us just moving forward and 483 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: putting the right plan together. So and just as you said, 484 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: we're going to do it together, you have to. There's 485 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: no Every story that's been told here all has to 486 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: do with a collected group of people. And I think 487 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: it's implied by God that we all do it together. 488 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Because every time, just about particularly here and Forlid, the 489 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: sun comes up, right you look up the word that 490 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: you in, it means together. We're better together. And these 491 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: stories are now going to help our legends. That's right, 492 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: legends get going, get you and learn from me, is 493 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: we don't. We're not pointing down. We're all together. We've 494 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: all been in the locker room. Now get up, use 495 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: your influence and cause change. Be someone's mentor, and even 496 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: as you're older, allow someone to mentor you. Thank you Jason, 497 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: thank you LaDainian, thank you Ward, and thank you Derek Brooks. 498 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: And we're out. This has been the NFL Legends podcast. 499 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: To provide feedback or request a topic for discussion, email 500 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: us at NFL Legends at nfl dot com.