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Speaker 1: Hello, My name is Will Sasso and I will.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. Thanks again for joining us for your

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Speaker 2: favorite podcast. I'm sure off the beat. I am your

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Speaker 2: favorite host, Brian Bombgartner. We have a favorite of mine

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Speaker 2: on the show today, the hilarious Will Sasso is with me.

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Speaker 2: Will has been gracing your screens for now over thirty years,

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Speaker 2: which is odd because he claims he's only thirty two,

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Speaker 2: but anyway. He first appeared on Canadian teen television, then

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Speaker 2: in incredible movies like Best in Show and Happy Gilmore,

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Speaker 2: and finally on the iconic comedy sketch show Mad TV.

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Speaker 2: Guess what all of that was before the year two thousand.

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Speaker 2: He certainly hasn't slowed down since then, starring on shows

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Speaker 2: like Less than Perfect, Another Period, louder Milk, and Young Sheldon.

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Speaker 2: He is also an accomplished voice actor. You've heard his

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Speaker 2: voice on animated shows like Family, Guy, Russell, Maniac, Murder Police. Also,

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Speaker 2: he stole the role of Curly in The Three Stooges

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Speaker 2: from me, so we're definitely going to discuss that. And

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Speaker 2: as you will hear, he's a hell of an impressionist.

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Speaker 2: Well at least he really makes me laugh. Let's hear

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Speaker 2: from him now, My friend and yours Will Sasso.

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Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and squeak. I know,

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Speaker 3: Bubble and squeak. I cook get every month lift over

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Speaker 3: from the ninet before.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Will?

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Speaker 1: Hello, Brian? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well?

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Chilling?

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Speaker 2: She's chilling. Where are you chilling?

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Speaker 1: I'm in Los Phelis. Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's my old neighborhood. Oh really, that is

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Speaker 2: that where you live?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, nice, nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it's very nice to meet you. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about I don't know if you've been

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Speaker 2: reading the news. You've been in the news a little

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Speaker 2: bit recently. Oh yeah, yeah, we haven't. Was it the uh,

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Speaker 2: the show the show that I'm doing? The you got shows?

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Speaker 2: You got you're you're basically everywhere. You're a man of

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Speaker 1: Right, there's a television show sometimes exactly. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: But I want to talk a little bit about how

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Speaker 2: you how you got started. You're Canadian a right, I am.

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm Canadian. I'm originally from just outside of Vancouver, Canada.

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Speaker 2: How was that culturally for you? With your parents being Italian?

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Speaker 1: ready here it is you must be Jimmy. Here I'll

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Speaker 1: You later go like smart and you know, and the

437
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: show only lasted one year, but they were in a

438
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: shitty position. They were on the CW, which is not

439
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: where the show used to be. The show was on Fox,

440
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: and they put them on. I'm pretty sure this is correct.

441
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: I know it was the middle of the week. I'm

442
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: pretty sure it was Tuesday nights at ten and it's.

443
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: The come on on the on.

444
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: The W, which means you can't do anything.

445
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: Geez.

446
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would sort of, you know, you would sort

447
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: of cover some of the old stuff, and you were

448
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: told like, no, we can't, we can't go there. And

449
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, I'm doing why are we doing.

450
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: Let's do a season twenty years later. Yeah, of a

451
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: groundbreaking show that even though networks standards and practice is

452
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,239
Speaker 2: much looser now, you're going to do less what you

453
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: did twenty years before. That doesn't sound like a great idea.

454
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: No, No, it didn't. It didn't work. And I feel

455
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: bad because the cast was fantastic, the writers were fantastic,

456
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: and a lot of the old writers came back, a

457
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: few of them to you know, really make sure that

458
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: it was mad TV. And uh, yeah, it didn't work.

459
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: You you a lot of times, I'm jumping all over

460
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: the place. I usually go chronological with people, but I

461
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: feel like you've been working for thirty years with amazing

462
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: actors and comedians. I'm kind of cherry picking here with you.

463
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: And this one is personal for me because I just

464
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: spent eleven am to eleven pm with Catherine O'Hara up

465
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: in Napa, California. We let's just say this will We

466
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: had a day. We did have an hour on that

467
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: day alone. I know you worked with her in Best

468
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: in Show? Did you know Christopher before this? Christopher Guest? No, okay, no,

469
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: so this was just an audition, no Canadian connection, okay, no, no, okay.

470
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: How was that experience like for you?

471
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, so I showed up to do Best in

472
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: Show and I was like, Christopher Guest is one of

473
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: the funniest people ever. And I was a huge, huge,

474
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: and still am a huge spinal Tap fan and see

475
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: a movie so many times this is spinal Tap. And

476
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: I loved waiting for Guffman and this was this was.

477
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: Like the third one, right there, spinal Tap, there was Guffman.

478
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: Was this his third one?

479
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, I of those of that genre, yeah, you know.

480
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: And I was such a geek for it. I was like, oh,

481
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: there's Karen Murphy, the producer of Spinal Tap, Like this

482
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: is insane. We were shooting this scene that I don't

483
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: think any of it is still in the movie where

484
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: the one fellow is explaining to me these more these

485
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: fishing lures, and and mister Guests was just like, so

486
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: you don't get it. You just don't get it. You

487
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: don't understand why we're putting fishing lures on a map.

488
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: And it's like okay, and he's like, see, you wake

489
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: up in the morning and you want to go fishing.

490
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, go go back, go back further

491
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: to the day before. Well, I don't know why you

492
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: need Okay, it's the day before and you want to

493
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: go fishing. Wait, why would you be a fisherman to

494
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: begin with? Or whatever? Playing dumb And then I keep

495
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: touching this stuff, and there was this shot overhead and

496
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: Christopher Guest keeps slapping my hand out off of the thing,

497
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: and the bit like keep slapping my hand away, and

498
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: I'm laughing. I keep cracking up, and he goes like,

499
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: just dry as hell, right, because if you laugh then

500
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: then then we can't we can't use that, and I'm like,

501
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: and I did a few years later or whatever, I

502
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: did a scene for Mighty Wind that didn't end up

503
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: in the film where I'm I'm a balloon delivery guy

504
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: and I'm delivering these balloons to to Larry Miller. And

505
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: the balloons are red white and black, so they're they're wrong.

506
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be red white and blue. And I'm like, here,

507
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: balloon's sign here. Larry Miller's like, what what what is this? What?

508
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: What kind of red white and black? What? I'm like,

509
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, sign here? And he's like, what country

510
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: is that?

511
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: You know?

512
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: We're doing the scene and he cracks me up. He's

513
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of his thing, you know, I don't

514
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: even know what Bulkan country or what. And I'm like,

515
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: I start to crack up. And Christopher Guest, who now

516
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: in a Mighty Wind, has this like, you know, bozo

517
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: hairdo you know, with this like red hair in a

518
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, in the horseshoe hairdo you know, like us here?

519
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: And he walks over, he takes the headphones down and

520
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: he walks over very serious, and he goes, I don't

521
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: know if you'll remember this, but a few years ago

522
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: we had a conversation and like just but you never

523
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: you never get he's a very sweet man. He'll write

524
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: you like a like I've gotten like a handwritten note,

525
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, like from the desk of Christopher Guest. You know,

526
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: based on whatever you'd worked on with him or whatever,

527
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: you get this nice note. Extremely wonderful giving guy and

528
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: great actor to work with. But I feel like I never,

529
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: like everyone that I talked to that has worked with

530
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: him has that sort of review of like it's intimidating,

531
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean he's it's yeah, it's very Yeah,

532
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: it's it's intimidating and and a lot of fun.

533
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: You did four seasons on Less and Perfect playing Carl.

534
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: Now this is back on network television, obviously very different

535
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: from Mad TV. How was how was that experience for you?

536
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh? That was That was a lot of fun. I

537
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: loved doing that show and it was just this Yeah,

538
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: it was a show about It was an office comedy.

539
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with that sort of genre,

540
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was an office comedy. It was a

541
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: multi camera office comedy that not as many people watched

542
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: as the one, but yeah, it was it was a blast.

543
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: You know what can I say, And I was, you know,

544
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: doing mad TV where I remember there was one day

545
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: where I was on the cast of Less Than Perfect

546
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: and I went to Mad TV to do a couple

547
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: of bits. This is a two or three years after

548
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: I had left the show, and the the you know,

549
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Mad TV got sizable budget cuts every year for the

550
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons that they did the show. So on this

551
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: particular day that I came to do a couple of

552
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: bits for the show that week, I was walking back

553
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: stage or just on the stage and there's you know,

554
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: cables everywhere and stuff, and the lights were only on

555
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: on the set that they were shooting on, so like

556
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: you almost needed like your own flashlight. You go like

557
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: where And I didn't realize this, and I just go

558
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: walking onto the stage and just completely you know, I

559
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: trip on a bunch of cables and fall over and

560
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm like fuck, they didn't even turn the lights on

561
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: anymore here. And I remember going back to Less than

562
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Perfect later that day, you know, you you know, you're

563
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be working on the sitcom. And I was,

564
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was over at you know, craft service,

565
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: eating a you know, coffee cup ful of bacon or whatever,

566
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: and the and the producers were there, the showrunners Nina

567
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: and Jean, and I remember, I very sincerely was like,

568
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, this experience is so wonderful and you guys

569
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and I somewhere in I said, you know, you're keeping

570
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: the lights on and I said, and they were looking.

571
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: At me like, what are you talking about?

572
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you talking about? And now I

573
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: can't go further and go, well, you know, so I

574
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: used to be on the Sketch Show and they're really

575
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: cheap over there, and you know, you got to be

576
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: and they keep getting their budget is you know, it's like,

577
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: why are they even doing the show anymore? And I

578
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: tripped on some cables earlier, and I just really appreciate

579
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys have devil eggs or whatever,

580
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: you know what.

581
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, there's something to say.

582
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing to say with what we do. If

583
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: you're if you can be on a network show or

584
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: any show. I'm just like, there's no work you can

585
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: do as an actor that justifies how grateful you you

586
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: should feel to be doing that sort of stuff. So

587
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: that show was an absolute Yeah, it was a gas

588
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: and I loved everyone that I worked with. Sarah Rue,

589
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd, Andy Dick, Andrea Parker, Zach Levi, Patrick Warburton,

590
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and Eric Roberts. I don't think I'm missing anybody. Yeah,

591
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: it was a fun show with a great group of people.

592
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, your guest star Roles. I'm saying all of

593
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: this really to get to the end. Your guest star Roles,

594
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: the marvelous missus masl Curb your Enthusiasm, Gray's Anatomy, Modern Family,

595
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: How I Met your Mother, Entourage two and a halfy

596
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I want to talk to you

597
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: about maybe your greatest guest role. You were on ww

598
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: e oh SmackDown a few times, so now I need

599
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: to understand. I understand it started as a cross promotion

600
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: with Mad TV or something, but then you ended up

601
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: with an arc there and you had matches talk to

602
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: you were a big wrestling fan. Yeah, I'm told so

603
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: this was your This was all you're doing. Was this

604
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: like your dream? Your total dream come true?

605
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah it's I'm I'm a huge wrestling dork and

606
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: uh okay and still am, and it's like that's my thing.

607
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: I really still love professional wrestling. So right on Mad TV,

608
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: we had Brett Hart come on. At which time he

609
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: came on, he was the world Heavyweight Champion in the

610
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: WWF back in the day. And then he comes on

611
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: the show and we did this bit and at the

612
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: end of the bit he comes back in and surprises

613
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: me legitimately and the thing and we're dorking around and

614
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: then I put him on my shoulders and I like

615
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: spun him around a bit in an airplane spin, which

616
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: is not this is the world heavyweight Champion of the WWF.

617
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, OUI you know so, But Brett's so

618
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: mellow and cool and we're talking about it, and our

619
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: producer at mad TV, Brian Hart no relation, is also

620
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: a big wrestling fan, and his gear started turning, like

621
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: what could we do with this? And it was really

622
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: his idea to have Brett back the next year and

623
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: do this thing where he attacks me in front of

624
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: the cast and in front of the audience, and only

625
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: a handful of people knew about it, and in hindsight,

626
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: that was shitty to do. But we did this sort

627
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: of fake you know, this sort of whoops, don't say fake,

628
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: but because he hit me as hard as he could

629
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: with this folding chair, he goes, do you want me

630
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: to pull back on the you want me to hit

631
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: and pull back a bit or what do you? And

632
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: I was like, because I wanted it to look good.

633
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and we're pals at this point.

634
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't worry, Brett, you can't hurt me, knowing

635
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: that he could kill me if you and he hit

636
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: me so hard I had raised welts.

637
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: On my back with a real folding chair.

638
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those folding chairs though that

639
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: isn't metal. It was you know, it's got plastic bits,

640
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: but the the the framing is metal, so it still

641
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: connected and hurt. It just weighs less. Okay, yeah, it's

642
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: still hurt, you know it. It was a terrible thing

643
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: to get hit with that hard, but it just stung

644
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: so bad. And then I was wearing like a gator

645
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: pad on my knee and I fall down. He starts

646
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: smashing my knee. Then he puts me into the sharpshooter

647
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: his hold and we go into this Andy Kaufman Jerry

648
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: Lawler arc where you know, cut two. I end up

649
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: on Monday nightro He's with w CW now and we

650
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: have a match where it's like before that, I'm like

651
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: on like a couple of entertainment magazines going, yeah, I'm

652
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: gonna sue the guy and blah blah blah, and people

653
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: are buying it. And then it's like, it's all leading

654
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: up to this match. I interfered in a match the

655
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: week before in Buffalo and helped interfere and Rowdy Roddy

656
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: Piper took the US title from Brett that night, which

657
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: that that's mind blowing. And I could go on about

658
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: all of it and.

659
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Then we have a Ye, this was a year's set

660
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: up for you guys to actually have a match. This

661
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: was all leading to this.

662
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was leading to having a match, and it

663
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: was God and Brett is, you know, the greatest and

664
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: and uh some say, you know, and I would say

665
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: the greatest in ring performer ever and they call him

666
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: the you know, the the best, you know, the best

667
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: ever was best, best there is, best there was, best

668
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: there ever will be, and the excellence of execution. For

669
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: a reason, he could have a match with you know,

670
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: a bag of flour and he did that night. He

671
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: basically he took me in there in the afternoon, you know,

672
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: just to get used to the ring and stuff. He

673
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: gives me a side Russian leg sweep boom. We both

674
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: hit the ground this thing, and I go okay, and

675
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: then he just goes, you know, you watch this stuff

676
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: for your whole life, you get it. I'm like, uh no,

677
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I don't, no, no, I don't. What do you mean?

678
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: And he says that because he's that good, and he goes,

679
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: just don't move unless I move. You you'll know what

680
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing, and I'll tell you if I have to.

681
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, and it went off without a

682
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: hitch because I just did what he said.

683
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Like are you are you getting shots off on him

684
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: or no?

685
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing that makes it very easy.

686
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: We showed up and we go backstage, you know, and

687
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: we're hanging out with some of the wrestlers and you know,

688
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: the bookers at the time, and we're talking with Brett

689
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: and Brian, our producer and Mad TV. We're flying over

690
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and he had he was like because my thing was

691
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: like and his thing too. It's like, I hate it

692
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: when you have these guests from the world of television

693
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: and film come into wrestling and then they're getting one

694
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: over on them, Like why does Jay Leno have Hulk

695
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Hogan in a headlock like that makes no sense, right,

696
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: So anyone who steps in the ring with these guys

697
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: should just immediately get the shit kicked out of him, right,

698
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: That's what would happen. And that's what you know wrestling is,

699
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: is the illusion. So we pitched that to Brett. We're like,

700
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: you know, we don't know how it starts or whatever.

701
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: Maybe Will kind of pisses you off because he's even

702
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: just in the ring. This makes no sense. You're like,

703
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: why do I have to do this? And you just

704
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: kick the shit out of him for how long is

705
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: the segment? Eight minutes? Okay? And Brett laughed, Yeah, good, good,

706
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: And that's what we did. So at the beginning, Brett's

707
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: like kind of frustrated, and he puts the hand up

708
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: for like the test of strength where they go, so

709
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: it's like, you're gonna have a test of strength with

710
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: this TV actor. You know, it's big, out of shape

711
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: dude or whatever, and so he just goes like this

712
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: and he kicks me in the gut and goes against

713
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: the ropes and clocks me and and he just beats

714
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the shit out of me the whole time, which I

715
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: thought was hilarious.

716
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: Minutes you got your ass kicked.

717
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: Well that's the uh, that's the segment time, so I

718
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: guess it was that included the intros in the outro,

719
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: so like five minutes five minutes. And he did fun

720
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: stuff like he goes and grabs a chair and it's like,

721
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: oh no, he's gonna hit him with the chair again,

722
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: but just to put the chair in the middle of

723
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: the ring and like drink a bottle of water and go, okay,

724
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? And it was the playing

725
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: out of my dreams, not just being in a wrestling ring,

726
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: but being in there with Brett Hart. It's still to

727
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: this day makes no sense. And uh, at one point

728
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: I was literally again He's like, I will pick you up,

729
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: I will do the next thing. You know, don't don't move,

730
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: and Brian Hart wanted him to do this one move

731
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: that he does, the quick leg drop, and at one

732
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: point I'm laying there on the ground. I didn't know

733
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: that he was about to do it, but like he said,

734
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: don't move, and I remember literally time slowing down and

735
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: I was looking up at the lights and I'm just

736
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: going it was unbelievable. I'm on wrestling, I'm on ww

737
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: this is crazy. That's crazy. This all happens within a

738
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: second of me thinking this, and I go anyway, I

739
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: start to get up. He's in the air when I

740
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: start to get up, so my head is now up,

741
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: you know, with the length of my shoulder to the ground,

742
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: and he's coming down with the leg drop and could

743
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: break my neck. And only Brett Hart and you know whatever,

744
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of them. They're incredible performers and athletes and actors.

745
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: And he bent his you know, he bends his leg,

746
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: bends his knee at the last second, creating this perfect

747
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: cradle from I would have broken my neck easily. And

748
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's tossing me in the corner and

749
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: stomping me in the chat and you don't feel anything.

750
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: And I remember walking outside afterwards, just like taking a

751
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: breathe and going like he's getting away from all of it,

752
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: like and just going I just had a you know,

753
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, a shitty match that everyone was like, Boo,

754
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: fuck off, for real, nobody wants this, We like this show.

755
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: You should know that nobody wants this, Will Sasso, and

756
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: you should know you're a wrestling dark Boo. And I'm

757
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: walking out there going I can't believe I just did

758
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: this and and Brett Hart, you know, tosses me around

759
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: and nothing hurt and it was unbelieving, unbelievable.

760
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: You're coming to the end. I've had the opportunity to

761
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: work with Chuck Laurie a couple of times.

762
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 1: Great.

763
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: I know you have played Jim mccowis der Mandy's dad

764
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 2: on Young Sheldon. How does it feel that it's coming

765
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: to an end.

766
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible to be a part of something that

767
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: to come in at the end of an incredible run

768
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: like that that they've had. They've been going for seven years,

769
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: and I've been playing Emily Ousman's father, myself and Rachel

770
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: bay Jones for the past couple of years, and I mean,

771
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: it's lovely to go onto a Chuck Laurie set. First

772
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: of all, everyone's very happy to be there and just

773
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: what a nice group of people. And I've been fortunate

774
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: enough to work on a couple of other of his shows,

775
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: and it's the same across the board. And to be

776
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: in this, you know, you know how it is. They

777
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: say it's a TV family, it's like family, but it

778
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: really is. I mean, it's the easiest job in the

779
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: world to come into a well oiled machine and just

780
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: hit the ground running and hopefully if there are no

781
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: snags there and it makes sense and you're an addition

782
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: to the story that makes sense. I mean, what else

783
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: what can I say? It's been It's been wonderful, and

784
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: it's also really interesting to be there at the end

785
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: of it because you know, these kids, Ian, Reagan and

786
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: Montana grew up together. They grew up together, the three

787
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: of them, and Zoe and Lance and Anti Pots. You know,

788
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: they are like the parents and grandparents are these kids

789
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: in a way that's you know, it's very interesting, you know,

790
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: like just seeing seeing them grow up must have been

791
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how those kids sort

792
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: of separate from each other and from this experience, you know,

793
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: you and I know that. It's like you work with people,

794
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: you say you'll keep in touch, you don't, you know,

795
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: we all move on to other things and there's this

796
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: high turnaround. So it's always special to be a part

797
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: of something that has its has its legacy and is

798
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: winding down, and to be there at the very end

799
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: of it is is something to observe, you know, because

800
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't I feel nothing right, I feel nothing, no,

801
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: I uh Yeah, I'm you know, I'm observing, going like

802
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: this is this is incredible?

803
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Will Ferrell, who came in right around the time

804
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: Steve Carroll left. He came in, he did four episodes

805
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: with us Steve was leaving. He was like, it's the

806
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: weirdest thing. It feels like I was invited to a

807
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: funeral of someone didn't know. Like everybody everybody's perfect, We're

808
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: making a comedy, but everybody's kind of crying. It's sad,

809
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: and it's like this weird, uh, this weird experience. But

810
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: I get, at least in one level what you're saying. Yeah,

811
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: the throwback you finished the throwback? What seventeen years ago?

812
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: I yeah, something like that.

813
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: A long time ago.

814
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: I was right before Mad TV we got on with that.

815
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: That's what I That's what I hear. No, it was

816
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: a long time ago, right.

817
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: I think we shot it a couple of years ago,

818
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: and you know, like, isn't it weird? Like we'll do

819
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: something and then what happened to that? And then it

820
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: comes out?

821
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's getting unbelievable press. My crack research team

822
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: meaning me, saw ninety six percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Everybody's

823
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: watching it, everybody is loving it after so much time.

824
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: Are you happy with the reception that the movie's getting.

825
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Do you remember it feeling good about it when you

826
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 2: shot it a few years ago?

827
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I did. It was it was Justina Machado

828
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: is starring in the movie, and I play her husband,

829
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: and she's an old friend, she's an old palace.

830
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: So it was so oh you knew okay, I knew.

831
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: Justina, and yeah, we have had the same manager for

832
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: many many years, like twenty five, twenty whatever years, and

833
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: Justina and I did something similar similar, meaning we played

834
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: husband and wife in this short that I made a

835
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: while back, and it worked. It was it was great.

836
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: It was a first time director, and you know, Mario

837
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: the director was a very sweet guy and not hiding

838
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: the fact that it was his first time directing a feature,

839
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: and so it was cool to just kind of go like, well,

840
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, we just got to play these scenes. And

841
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: I don't know until he says cut, which sometimes he

842
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: would forget to do because he's a first time director,

843
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: and then he goes he's kind of looking around. You

844
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: have to say cut, you have to say and then

845
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: we're on set going what do we do? Should we

846
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it? Can you say it?

847
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: And as we know, you have to stay in your

848
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: boxes with regard to your union. So sometimes we would

849
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: just keep rolling into the night and they would waste

850
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: a lot of money that way and go horribly over budget.

851
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: But two years later they got that. They didn't get

852
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: their money back, but they got, you know, enough money

853
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: to put it out. It was a fun movie.

854
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: You have a podcast. I don't know if you knew

855
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: that or not.

856
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the studio right now.

857
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is, Dudsy. Tell me about well, first off,

858
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: tell my listeners about Doodsy. The podcast.

859
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: Dudsy is a podcast with an AI bent to it.

860
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 1: There's an AI theme to where myself and my good

861
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: buddy Chad whom I've known for over twenty years around

862
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: that and he's a writer, producer primarily I'm an actor,

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00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: and so it's these The idea is, here's two guys

864
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: that have that have been friends for a long time.

865
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: We've worked together, we've written things together and done shit

866
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: like that. And the conceit here is that somewhat malevolent

867
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Speaker 1: AI has has procured us to do this podcast together.

868
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: And there's there's elements of it that are all too

869
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: real and there are elements of it that are not

870
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: because it is a comedy show, right, and.

871
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: The AI this Duji acts as your producer, your boss.

872
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: You're pretty much comes up with all you know, like

873
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: is feeding us segments saying do this, do that, which

874
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 1: is a fun way to come about things like if

875
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: it's like you know, in a podcast, it's kind of

876
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: one thing to go, I'm gonna do this impression and

877
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: bore the you must be Jimmy and then everyone's bummed out.

878
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: But it's another thing to go like, well, hey, you

879
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: know like podcasts about news or big business, will you

880
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: won't stop doing your hul Cogan impression? This is info

881
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: mania And it's like, well, let me tell you something

882
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: about the news, dude. We got all sorts of news

883
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: out there, brother, and I'm gonna so it's a it's

884
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: a way to get all these you know, bits going

885
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, it's a very thick, weird delivery with

886
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: it's very it's a very complex delivery. That is. Look,

887
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I love professional wrestling. I don't know if we've mentioned.

888
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, we've mentioned it.

889
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so you know the idea of k fabe

890
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: there like, well, what's real? And I don't fucking like

891
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: AI at all, and Chad digs it. Of course in

892
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: our business, we don't. I don't want to have anything

893
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: to do with it, right, And Chad really like he

894
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: digs it, but he's like a futurist and a weirdo

895
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: tech dorc and he loves that stuff. And I'm like,

896
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: I don't need any of it. I like acting with

897
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: people and I like it. And to me, art is

898
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: useless if it's not person to person, if a person

899
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: didn't come up with the art, it's useless. But the

900
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: podcast sort of comments on that and sort of like,

901
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, what is it that AI can do? And yeah,

902
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: more recently, is what is it that people will will believe?

903
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: You know? It's it's odd, It's certainly odd. It's been

904
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: an odd thing.

905
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: I read somewhere. Is this part of the lie that

906
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: dudes he has access to your text messages? Is this

907
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: a bit?

908
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: Have I mentioned how much I like professional wrestling? All right, Dudsy, Well,

909
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: the thing what you're describing is in order for Dudzy

910
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: to do the show where it is able to bring

911
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: stuff up from our past, come up with the best

912
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: concepts for us, and in its function, it promises to

913
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: make each episode better than the last episode because it

914
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: is currently it is constantly gathering data. Why wouldn't it

915
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: have all of our passwords, search histories, purchase histories, access

916
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: to all of our hard drives and clouds so that

917
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: it can make this show possible. If there's a video

918
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: that dudes he wants to show from my past, it

919
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: has access. If there's a bit of writing that dudes

920
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: he wants to highlight from Chad's you know, and then

921
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: other things happen and people go, you know, man, I

922
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: don't know. People like, uh oh, it's ai. It's like

923
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to kind of to me to be like, yeah,

924
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: but you know, isn't everything I haven't said too much?

925
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's uh.

926
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if you were going to say anything

927
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: at all. So I like it.

928
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing. Look, I I really enjoy, you know, working.

929
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: I love the illusion of what we get to do. Yes,

930
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: and to me, you know, nobody watches an episode of

931
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: their favorite show and goes, well, why is that person

932
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: being mean to that person? Or why does this It's like, well,

933
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a show it's like and it's

934
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: like professional wrestling, where it's like, well, we all know

935
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: that behind the scenes, there's a show here, there's a

936
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: show that's being produced. Chad and I are messing with

937
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: each other constantly in our lives, and some of that

938
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: can come into the show, which is a lot of fun, right,

939
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: and there can be a lot of surprising ourselves and

940
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: one another. You know, I guess it's so, I guess

941
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: it's uh, I guess if I don't know. Do you

942
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: have a question past that? I don't know how much

943
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: I really don't you know? To me, it's clear, you know,

944
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is that I love

945
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Speaker 1: doing the damn show.

946
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 2: You love doing the show, ye, And you know there

947
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: has been some conversation about the show, which, by the way,

948
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: may not be terrible for the show that you guys

949
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: have used AI with. I don't even know how you

950
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: say it, Tom Brady and George Carlin over the last

951
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: year or so. Are you surprised by the flack that

952
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: you have gotten from that? Is it totally understandable to you?

953
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 2: And are you planning to AI me anytime in the

954
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Speaker 2: next year.

955
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by the flack but it does make sense.

956
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense to me. You know. I read

957
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: this one article that was from Ours Technica that I

958
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: thought was very good, and it pointed out it kind

959
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: of went through some of the stuff that has come

960
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: out of the show, and this is a person who

961
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: clearly understands AI and what the parlor trick is. Because

962
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: I always say, like, AI is not AI can't really do.

963
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: It is not sentient. It's just zeros and ones and

964
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: it mimics and it predicts, and it is capable of

965
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: so many things artistically that we are capable of, and

966
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: that to me is hopefully it just sort of settles

967
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: into being a tool. I think that my brain right

968
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: now can't understand. I am the guy screaming at the

969
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: horseless carriage right now going no, we don't want this.

970
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: You know, my Palchad will say, it's not like that.

971
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: It's just going to settle into being a tool.

972
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: You know.

973
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: Think think of the the film camera and how people

974
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: rebelled against that, the radio, the printing press, whatever, anything calculator.

975
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: So we're in this bizarre time in AI where it

976
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: is growing exponentially. You know, it's interesting. We used to

977
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: do mad TV. There are parent impression that yeah, you're

978
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: doing impressions and it's like I never heard anything. But

979
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: first of all, I have reverence for pretty much everyone

980
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: that I ever impersonated. It came from a real love

981
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: of you know, talking like them or doing their stick

982
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, or having them on my mind and wanting

983
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: to do and impressions. But certainly at mad TV, we

984
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't get shit for doing an impression of someone because

985
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: it's understood that it is. It's just ease, apparently, I

986
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 1: guess when you when you put a different paint job

987
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: on it and and put it out there, but all

988
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: you really have is is jokes that you know Chad wrote,

989
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and there is no there's no it's an open secret,

990
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, like people who enjoy the show are like

991
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: very to the whole delivery of it. Oh and on

992
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: that note, I should say that I am currently the

993
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: The Dude's Undisputed Episode Champion. Recently I got a hold

994
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: of there I am right there, there you are. And

995
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: so if you need any more of a clue as

996
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: to what is happening over here, you know, you do

997
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: something and you kind of go like, well, here's this bit,

998
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: and the fella at ours technica what he had written

999
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: in this pieces, like, am I to believe that these

1000
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: two dudes got a hold of an AI that is

1001
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: way way more advanced than anything that anyone at MI

1002
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: T even could get their hands on. At this point,

1003
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: that is me saying too much because to me, all

1004
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: I want to do is, you know, make some people

1005
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: laugh and stuff. So when there's a reaction, I'm like, oh,

1006
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: oh fuck, h oh okay, well, m I don't know,

1007
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: but we got to try stuff. To me, it is,

1008
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, it is. It's it's understandable because we don't

1009
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: know what the uh, what the future holds, you know, right,

1010
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: even with the stuff that is total nonsense.

1011
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fascinating. I think it's a discussion,

1012
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: as is everything in art, a discussion at least worth

1013
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: having and sussing it out. But I appreciate you being

1014
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: so candid about it, and I hope that people will

1015
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: check it out.

1016
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: You know what, can I tell you this? Yeah, let

1017
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: me tell you this, Brian, real quick. Sorry. I kind

1018
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 1: of feel like, so long as you know, when people

1019
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: tune into Dudsy, which is you know, YouTube and all

1020
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: your podcast platforms, by the way, when people watch Dudzy.

1021
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: So long as they are enjoying that hour of dudesy

1022
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: and the weirdness that happens. To me, that's what it is.

1023
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: And I say everything that I've said here with in

1024
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: my I'm keeping in mind. You know, our beloved pods

1025
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: as we like to call them, the pals of Dudsy,

1026
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: people who are very engaged in the show and really

1027
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: love it, and you know, they're lighting up our discord

1028
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: and keeping this community alive. And what I've found is

1029
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of other comedy nerds that really dig being

1030
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: a part of this weird thing. And I tell them

1031
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: all the time when we do the show where we

1032
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: do this dudeesy after Dudsy where things kind of chill

1033
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: out and we talk a little more real, and I

1034
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: go like, I just love that experience of it. And

1035
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: it's the same for me coming in here and doing

1036
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: doing this dumb stuff. And that's what I want people

1037
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: to understand, that that it's a silly goose time and

1038
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: we're we're doing silly shit. Certainly, this is nothing new.

1039
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: People are going to have their own reactions. I have.

1040
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: I really don't have anything to say about that.

1041
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: I really am well, that is art and that is

1042
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: comedy and that is a good thing.

1043
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: You can take that. Yeah, it's it's it's it's yours

1044
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: to interpret, of course.

1045
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: That's right. Well, it's been so great chatting with you

1046
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: and getting to know you a little bit. I've been

1047
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 2: such a fan of yours for such a long time.

1048
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: Oh, cheers.

1049
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: Likewise, everybody check it out the throwback Young Sheldon finishing

1050
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: next month and of course available wherever you get your

1051
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: podcasts and on YouTube. Dudesy Will, thank you so much

1052
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: for joining me.

1053
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1054
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm disputed episode champion of the world of or at

1055
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: least of dudes. It's only it's only you were chat

1056
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: congratulations man, maybe my dog.

1057
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: Remember that time you almost won?

1058
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: Thanks Will, Thank you so much.

1059
00:58:51,560 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: Cheers, Brian, thank you, Thank you, Will.

1060
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun and no, I will

1061
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: never get in the ring with you. Listeners, check out

1062
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: Dudsy podcast. It is an interesting watch and listen to

1063
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: be sure wherever you get your podcasts. Also you can

1064
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: see will Well Finishing up is run on Young Sheldon

1065
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 2: and of course on Netflix the throwback check that out

1066
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: as well. Come back next week for another, well, another

1067
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: exciting episode with a very exciting guest. Until then, everybody

1068
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: have a great week off. The Beat is hosted and

1069
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, alongside our executive producer

1070
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: Ling Our senior producer is Diego Tapia. Our producers are

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01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris and Emily Carr. Our talent producer

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Speaker 2: is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is Ali Amir Sahim.

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Speaker 2: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak, performed by the one

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Speaker 2: and only Creed Bratton.