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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Here on a Friday, as we have made

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Speaker 2: it to the end of a hectic week and we

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Speaker 2: are rewarded Matt with a lovely slate of divisional round

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Speaker 2: games this weekend. Two on Saturday, two on Sunday. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people that are in the sphere the orbit

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Speaker 2: of what you and I do. Yeah, yeah, okay, radio, TV, print, whatever,

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Speaker 2: but football media, Yeah, we'll often say that championship weekend

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Speaker 2: is the best weekend of football. I don't think anymore

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Speaker 2: because you get two great games, it's four teams. I

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Speaker 2: think this weekend might be the best weekend of football

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Speaker 2: because I think the two Okay.

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Speaker 3: Just there's so many. I mean, it actually gets a

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Speaker 3: little overwhelming.

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Speaker 2: It does.

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Speaker 3: And that may stand alone.

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Speaker 2: Game this year was an exception because most of the

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Speaker 2: wildcard games were excellent. Or I feel where the division

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Speaker 2: round is like when it starts to get thick and tight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're this far, you're good. Correct, you know

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Speaker 3: that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: Correct, So big weekend of football.

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Speaker 3: Definitely take this over Championship week, agreed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, game Saturday, two games Sunday, And obviously we'll talk

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Speaker 2: more about this Monday. But you got the national championship

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Speaker 2: game in college football Monday. It kind of I do

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're a little young for this, but it

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Speaker 3: would be like Steve Young versus Aikman, and you knew

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Speaker 3: that was like the Super Bowl. You know, those teams

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Speaker 3: were awesome. They met every year for like the NFC

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Speaker 3: Championship for so long.

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Speaker 2: You know, the AFC Championship was Brady and Manning Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 2: and the NFC Championship, you know is is Rogers and

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Speaker 2: Breeze and all these great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so hey, this year it could be like Mayver's Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Pretty crazy, Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Right, it could be that year. I think it was

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen when the Nick Foles led Eagles won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. It was Tom Brady, okay, of course, but

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Speaker 2: then the other three quarterbacks were Blake Bortles, case Keenum,

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, Nick Foles.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. We could have a lot of ways

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Speaker 3: to get there, bros.

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Speaker 2: We could. There's more than one ways to skin that cat.

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Speaker 2: That is for sure, and we will talk plenty about

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Speaker 2: those divisional round games as we roll along today. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk to our friend Missy Matthews here in

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes, get her thoughts on the conclusion of

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Speaker 2: this season and the conclusion of the Mike Tomlin era,

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Speaker 2: and we will discuss rookie classes across the National Football here,

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Speaker 2: National Football League here a little bit today on the

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Speaker 2: show too, So plenty to get to. But as I

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Speaker 2: think we'll continue to do, Matt, as we are now

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Speaker 2: in this coaching cycle, full speed ahead. Here we go

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Speaker 2: like like we haven't been in nineteen years. The news

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Speaker 2: of the day every single day, who's interviewing?

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Speaker 4: Ye've always a little something, both both people interviewing with

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Speaker 4: the Steelers and new names that they've requested to interview,

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Speaker 4: and then of course members of the Steelers' current staff

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Speaker 4: who are interviewing elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with a big one, Matt, We yesterday discussed

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Speaker 2: how at the time that you and I finished recording,

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Speaker 2: I believe it was six of seven of the names

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers had requested to interview for their vacant

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Speaker 2: head coaching position were defensive coordinators. Yes, and then Nathan

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Speaker 2: schielhass has. I like it being the lone exception to

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have submitted an interview request for forty nine

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Speaker 2: Ers offensive coordinator Clay Kubiak for their head coaching vacancy.

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Speaker 2: According to Adam Scheffer, Diana Russini, you know a lot

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Speaker 2: of credible reporters, and this to me is exciting because

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Speaker 2: I like the names. I like the background, I like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was hoping it wasn't just one guy we

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Speaker 2: When it six out of seven defensive guys, it does

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Speaker 2: here comes another offensive name.

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Speaker 3: I do think I would have to go look at

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good and fair point by you.

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Speaker 3: This year is just stronger in that side.

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Speaker 2: It almost seems like those things are cyclical, like NFL

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Speaker 2: draft classes are some years better for quarterbacks, some years

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Speaker 2: it's better for a lineman, some years it's better for

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Speaker 2: wide receivers. Last year, it felt like most of the

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Speaker 2: big name candidates available in the coaching cycle were offensive sided,

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Speaker 5: This year.

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Speaker 2: This year, the shoes a little bit on the other foot.

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Speaker 2: But Klay Kubiak certainly a name that people recognize from

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Speaker 2: that Kyle Shanahan tree where there's been a lot of success. Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is again, if they if they are going to

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Speaker 2: it's you know, it's someone that's been spending time with McVeigh.

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Speaker 2: It's someone that's been spending time with Kyle Shanahan that's

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Speaker 2: signed to start. Sign me up a very good start.

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Speaker 3: Yep. What's funny is he is from the Kyle Shanahan tree.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a little older, I think of the Mike

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Speaker 3: Shanahan tree, especially when I hear the last name Kubiak

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Speaker 3: totally because Mike coached Elway, who's back up was Kubiak,

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Speaker 3: and then Kubiak had kids, Shanty had kids, and now

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Speaker 3: they're like this network they're like the Targetarians now you know, right,

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Speaker 2: Game of Thrones d not the Starks because they're they're

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Speaker 2: still with us. Yes, and if you watch that Lway

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Speaker 2: month or so, Yes, Kubiak is interviewed and part of

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Speaker 2: that documentary Heavy and it is pretty cool kind of

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Speaker 2: their relationship and what they both became to be.

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Speaker 3: So side note, and I'm not trying to sell Will

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Speaker 3: Howard short, but I've kind of called Will Howard the

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Speaker 2: I think that's a compliment that it is the.

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Speaker 3: Jason Garrett for the Akman, the Reich for Kelly Oh.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned those three names because they all went on

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Speaker 3: to be head coaches and everyone talks about how smart

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Speaker 2: You know, he could be that guy Doug Peterson was Backparter,

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Speaker 3: Guys that last, you know, for ten years with the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. Maybe Will Howard can be a Hall

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Speaker 3: the least. But I'm hoping when they draft somebody early

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Speaker 2: You know, Roethlisberger and left witch Berger and Batch just

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Speaker 2: do it forever. I am with you. I think we

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Speaker 2: even talked about that. I can't remember if it was

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Speaker 2: a perfect scenario and one that I'm sure we'll discuss

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Speaker 3: And I think that was kind of their plan too.

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Speaker 3: You know, when they drafted Howard, have somebody in place,

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Speaker 3: so maybe you can be able to ten year back up.

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Speaker 3: And if that's what you get up a six round pick,

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Speaker 3: that is a home run. By the way, folks, That's

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Speaker 3: not what I meant.

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Speaker 2: Cayle Shanahan earlier this year, when he was asked about

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Speaker 2: Clay Kubiak a few weeks ago in a press conference

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Speaker 2: and his potential to be a head coach, he said

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Speaker 2: an eye quote, Clay doesn't get enough recognition. He's as

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Speaker 2: good as anyone I've had and is responsible for as much,

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Speaker 2: if not more than our offensive game plan as myself.

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Speaker 2: Clay's a stud end quote Wow.

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Speaker 3: So I mean all I know about him is his

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: He spells his first name with a K, not a C.

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Speaker 3: And he's coming from roots that I like a lot

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Speaker 3: him to you know, fabricate that in any way. It

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Speaker 3: brings me to another other quick conversation though that remember

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Speaker 3: how when we start having this assistant coach conversation I

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Speaker 3: But the way like Shanahan frays that, like what I mean,

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Speaker 3: like they all have their own.

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Speaker 2: First first down scenario.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, you know, or hey, break down, they're all their

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Speaker 3: whatever the every team's process is. And that's the things

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Speaker 2: That is what we'll never know. But well, I think

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Speaker 3: Of offense that the Steelers are tapping in.

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Speaker 2: When you're when you're casting a wide net, that's that

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Speaker 2: the in the drive lexicon here, but he today doing

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Speaker 2: interviews with the Browns, the Raiders, and the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Which I find hilarious. Virtual virtual because.

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Speaker 6: The Rams have a game, because the Rams do play. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're pretty big. You can't prohibit your coaches

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Speaker 6: from from interviewing. But he does three of them today.

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Speaker 6: I assume they're at least an hour long, wouldn't you guess?

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Speaker 2: And I would think this is he's interviewing for a

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Speaker 2: head coaching gig, right, This is not just like I'm

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Speaker 2: going to hop on the zoom and talk to mister

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Speaker 2: Rooney and Omar Khan for forty five minutes. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's preparing.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of homework.

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Speaker 2: He's doing homework on the ownership and the general manager

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Speaker 2: and what we talked about.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday, PowerPoint presentations.

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Speaker 2: What questions do I want to ask? Yeah, the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: He's probably like, how do you guys feel about Fernando

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Speaker 2: Mendoza with the Steelers? Where are we getting our next quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Right? Like?

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Speaker 3: Does he know a lot about the Browns?

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Speaker 2: Am I married to shad Or Sanders for this year?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Does he know a lot about the last ten

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Speaker 3: I assume that he They're not expected to know everything

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Speaker 3: in it. If him or Shuler, for example, both Rams

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Speaker 3: Every door is slam shut. I mean, you walk down

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 2: Bouncing on a Friday here on the Drive. You know

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time as always, And you know,

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I will say what today is now Friday,

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Speaker 3: Like you said, I'm excited about it, and by no

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's almost like a first day

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Speaker 3: As this was.

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Speaker 2: It certainly would. And that's the world that we're all

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Speaker 2: You've spent around the team practices, locker rooms, sidelines around

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you know any professional.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm back into hockey season, guys. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm in Delmont today, but Detroit tomorrow. Hopefully

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Speaker 5: And I think that's a testament to the culture and

438
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 5: the mindset that he built. It's why he works so

439
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 5: well with Aaron Rodgers. It is why Aaron Rodgers also

440
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 5: felt that way, and everybody bought into it clearly. So it's, uh,

441
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: it's just it really stinks. Trust me. I wish I

442
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 5: was going to New England this week and not Detroit.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt so.

444
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: Some of the folks over the years that spend time

445
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: on the sidelines like you do on the field for

446
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: the game have told me kind of just behind the scenes,

447
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: that it's not uncommon for players from the opposite team

448
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 3: to approach Tomlin and say, hey, I'd really like to

449
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 3: play for you. Have you ever run into anything like that?

450
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, ayame like just like dap them up.

451
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 5: I mean that is not uncommon. I mean I'm probably

452
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 5: so immused to it because it happens all the time. Yeah,

453
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 5: And it's it's it's like a respect thing. It's I

454
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 5: just want to, like, you know, stap you up, shake

455
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 5: your hand, or it is like hey, come get me

456
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 5: that type of thing. And I've seen that happen as well,

457
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: and I think, you know, you have to give him

458
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: credit to It's not the culture, but I guess the

459
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 5: aura that he had that when he went to a

460
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: pro day, everybody wanted to be invited to that Steeler's

461
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 5: dinner the night before. Yeah, because you wanted to talk

462
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 5: to him. Even Jalen Ramsey talked about I took the

463
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Speaker 5: dinner because I didn't have a lot of money. It

464
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 5: was a free meal. But like, I also just wanted

465
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 5: to talk to him. I knew I wasn't getting drafted

466
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Speaker 5: by them.

467
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Speaker 3: And it's I want to hijack that just for one second, Missy,

468
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: because I always found that crazy. Yeah, Dale and I

469
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 3: used to talk about once in a while, it's like

470
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Speaker 3: they went to Michigan's Pro day and like all the

471
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: first round picks went out with the Steelers. I'm like,

472
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: what the other thirty one teams think? Or you know,

473
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 3: they were at Iowas pro Day and there's Campbell and

474
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Speaker 3: there's like five other dudes, Laporta on and on, and

475
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, did they just what did the other thirty

476
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: one teams just have no say in this?

477
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Speaker 2: Go back to the hotel and he passed it right right.

478
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Speaker 5: Well, I have heard that sometimes to go to another

479
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 5: dinner or it's like maybe you'll grab dessert with them

480
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 5: or something after, because yeah, it is legitimately true that

481
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 5: it was like they of them, but it's like and

482
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 5: it's every time he would do his preamble on Tuesday

483
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 5: about the upcoming team, it was always, hey, I remember,

484
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: you know Jack Campbell was the leader of that group.

485
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 5: You were at a prodain dinner and again you knew

486
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 5: they weren't getting him. But that is just how they

487
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 5: did business, and I think why he's so well respected,

488
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 5: and it's like a broken record. Every free agent was

489
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 5: pretty much like, of course, I wanted to play for

490
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 5: coach Tomlin, I've heard great things. Why when't I want

491
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 5: to come to Pittsburgh. It's a winning culture, you know,

492
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 5: they all they all knew, and that's that was definitely

493
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 5: an allure to a lot of people, a lot of guys.

494
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Speaker 2: Missy, Do you have a favorite tomlinism? I know some

495
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes I feel bad like putting people on the spot with,

496
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: oh yeah, rack your brain over nineteen years and pick

497
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Speaker 2: out a couple examples. But I'm sure you've been asked

498
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: this in the last few days. Been thinking about this

499
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: any of those classic slogans that will stick with you

500
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.

501
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I've always had this one. It was like something

502
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 5: hit me when he said it's the first time. And

503
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 5: it's not a common popular when it's not on a

504
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 5: T shirt. But excuses are the tools of the incompetent good.

505
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 5: I feel like I have used that in parenting moment.

506
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 5: I've used that for like self talks to myself about it,

507
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 5: and I just really it applies to more than just football.

508
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 5: That's like a good life, like just kind of you know,

509
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 5: you know, bring you back down to reality and make

510
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 5: you really think twice before you start trying to make

511
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 5: an excuse. For something, So I love that one.

512
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Speaker 3: We'll let you go here in a minute. And you

513
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: got a lot on your plate, but just just curious.

514
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you interacted with coach Tomlin a lot more

515
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: than Wes and I did. I mean, how did he

516
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 3: just to affect you on a human level?

517
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Speaker 5: I mean I was I was pretty pretty beat up

518
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: on Tuesday when the news broke just because he wasn't

519
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 5: just like a good person and a good person to

520
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 5: work with professionally, but just the personal level that he

521
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 5: really wanted to know about everybody. I mean, you know,

522
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 5: I wasn't a player coach. We did his TV show,

523
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 5: I did interviews with him stuff with a preseason, but

524
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: he always asked about my boys. He wanted to know

525
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 5: what hockey games we're going, Like, you know, where are

526
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: we going? When are they playing tackle football? Come on,

527
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 5: you gotta get him into tackle there? Aren't you doing

528
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 5: hockey and lacrosse? You know? Like was always trying to

529
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 5: talk to me into different things. I'm like, we have

530
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: like a million sports already, Like I can't do this

531
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 5: right now, but I think too, just the professionalism that

532
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 5: he always showed and really really helped me grow. I

533
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 5: wasn't like fresh out of college when I came to

534
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 5: the Steelers. But man, he put me through the wringer

535
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 5: in a good way that I so appreciate of how

536
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 5: to ask the right questions, how to not ask the

537
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: yes or no question. I mean, let me tell you,

538
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: I still like during his press conference would be like

539
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: he's going to say yes or no. You can't ask

540
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 5: it that way. You have to rephrase it. It has

541
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 5: just been beaten into my head and for that, I'm

542
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 5: forever grateful And we'll definitely miss you know, hit sarcasm,

543
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: the funny moment, and just appreciate, you know, what a

544
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 5: good human and coach he was.

545
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: Well said Missy. I keep thinking back to that that

546
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: famous line of like you forget what people say and

547
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: what people do and the places you go together, but

548
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: you always remember how someone made you feel when they

549
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: were around when they were around you, And I think

550
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty apt for the nineteen years of Mike,

551
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: Tomlin and Pittsburgh. The great Queen of the sideline, Missy Matthews,

552
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: from a hockey rink in Parts unknown, be safely, be

553
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: safe up in Detroit this weekend. Missy, thank you for

554
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: taking the time for us. All year. We really appreciate it.

555
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: You got it. If you're back next week, who knows

556
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 5: what rink I'll be in on Friday.

557
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: Sounds good. We'll talk to you soon. There she goes

558
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 2: from the queen of the sideline to the queen of

559
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: the ice rink. Good stuff there from Missy Matthews. And yeah,

560
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: you're right, I mean not not many people who do

561
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: what we do that spent as much time with Mike

562
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: Tomlin as she did. Yeah, at all the decade plus

563
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: that she's been with the Steelers and training camps and

564
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: road trips and practices and all that good stuff. It's

565
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: probably her labs. They're probably the two that are that

566
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: are highest on the list of you know, in terms

567
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: of just you know, media people in the time that

568
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: they've spent around Mike Tomlin. Good stuff there from Missy Matthews.

569
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Matt when we return here on the other side, let's

570
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: talk some rookie classes. Does that work for you? Yeah,

571
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: we've kind of you know, while we'll continue to monitor

572
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: everything that's going on with the Steelers coaching situation, we

573
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 2: need to get back into some regularly scheduled programming too,

574
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: so we'll do some of that as we roll along

575
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: here and talk finality for some of these rookie classes.

576
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Who played the most minutes, who played the least minutes,

577
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: How are they all graded out. We'll get into all

578
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: that as we roll along. Euler Williamson, It's the Drive

579
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

580
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 3: You were tuned about Drive.

581
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Speaker 1: I'm on your twenty four to seven home of the

582
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

583
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here of the first hour of

584
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: the Drive on this Friday. It'll be a it'll be

585
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: a little weird. I'm not gonna lie to you, Matt.

586
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: I was. I was saying this to my wife this morning.

587
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: I was like, it's gonna be weird driving home today

588
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: because this will be the first Obviously, there's football on

589
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: the horizons. This again, very important football that we're gonna

590
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in hour number two talking

591
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: about and discussing and previewing and predicting. But it's weird

592
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: when it's not it's football that I'm just sitting back

593
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: and observing there's no Steelers game. Yeah, I'm not watching

594
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: a WVU game or you know, getting up tomorrow morning

595
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: to drive the Morgantown on a Saturday, I won't be

596
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: at Hinesfield or ford Field or Foxborough or you know,

597
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: a mile high on Sunday. It's it's always a weird

598
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: when it's that first, like, oh, I actually have my

599
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: life this weekend, you know, like I don't have I

600
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: don't have work in.

601
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: Football this week. Yeah right, yeah, so you're you probably

602
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: already have got got this, you know, but the week

603
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: after the Steelers get eliminated is always a weird week

604
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: for me too. It's kind of no man's land and

605
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: not like sure, what dos my hands?

606
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 5: You know?

607
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 3: Like y and then this one's a thousand times weirder

608
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: than any of them. But there's definitely stuff to do,

609
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: you know, way more than the other one sometimes, like

610
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: oh I can relax, but I don't because I still

611
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: am in regular season mode.

612
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I you guys will you guys will laugh

613
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: at this just a couple of days ago, Like I

614
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: I keep kind of my suitcase out throughout the football season.

615
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh you've told me that, Yeah, Like.

616
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: I just kind of keep it in the corner, like

617
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: by our dresser, because basically every other weekend I'm like,

618
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: why am I going to put this thing away? And

619
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: then get it back out. Why you're not put up

620
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: in the attic or whatever exactly. So I had left

621
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: it out leading up to Monday night because I was like,

622
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Steelers win. Monday night, we're going back on the road.

623
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: We're going to Denver, We're going to New England or

624
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: you know. And then by Monday night we knew it

625
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: was gonna be would have been Foxboro, would have been

626
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: New England. I was like, I'm leaving this out, man.

627
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm packing for Boston, I'm packing for Providence this week,

628
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: and I just just put it away. Finally, on Wednesday,

629
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well, I guess I can

630
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: put this. Probably I can put this away in my closet,

631
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: but it would be weird. Normally I go home Fridays,

632
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: like have dinner with the family, and then we put

633
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: the girls down and I packed my suitcase up for

634
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: the weekend for wherever we're going.

635
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: Even last night, it was like five thirty and I

636
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: come up from downstairs. I just finished the podcast I

637
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: do in my basement and I kind of sat in

638
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: my lazy boy and my wife was on the couch

639
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: and she's like, are you done for the night. I'm like,

640
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: I guess I am, Yeah, we could start watching something whatever,

641
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: you know, Like.

642
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife was like, so what TV shows are

643
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: we watching? This? We getting into it is it's, it's it's.

644
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: It happens around this time every year, but it's still

645
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: always abrupt and then extra extra weird, extra different this

646
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: time around, as we are in the middle of a

647
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: coaching search for the first time, it.

648
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: Was like, Hey, how you've been for the last four months?

649
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: What's your name again? Yeah, Matt, let's talk some rookie

650
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: class production. Now that obviously there are still eight teams standing,

651
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: but the majority of the league in the books. Do

652
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: you want to do you want to start at the

653
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: top of the order here? You want to start in

654
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: the back? How do you how do you want to

655
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: start with where the Steelers are ranked and discuss them specifically?

656
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: What do you think here?

657
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't think we've spent a ton of time on

658
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: fourteen verse fifteen or anything like that. Great, do you

659
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: want to talk it like maybe the top five or

660
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: six and then bottom five?

661
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: Then where the Steelers are?

662
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: And I would think the Steelers are low. I mean

663
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: they are spoiler alert, yeah, I mean their rookie class

664
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: was not super productive, just.

665
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: Wasn't didn't have a have a second round.

666
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: And it helps when you pick early in the rounds too.

667
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely, even Derek Harmon, who had a good rookie season

668
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: and we all rightfully so or high on him moving forward,

669
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: he still missed a few games and so that kind

670
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 2: of affects your production in this whole equation.

671
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: I think we all agree he was the Steelers' best

672
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: player from their rookie class.

673
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think there's much of a

674
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: debate there. No, the Saints actually come in at number

675
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: one over the Browns Matt in terms of rookie class product.

676
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: I totally get it. Starts off with shock, Yes, yeah,

677
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: you guys are starting quarterback out of the deal. And

678
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: I thought Banks was a little overdrafted. He was really

679
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 3: really good this year. So they did the Steeler move

680
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: and went back to back tackles in two consecutive seasons. Flaga,

681
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: who they stuck at left tackle even though he's a

682
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: right in college, which everyone in that class, including Troy,

683
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: had to do. And then this year they kind of

684
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: made it right by putting Flaga back to right tackle

685
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: and putting Banks at left. And I thought he was overdrafted.

686
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 3: As all o' lineman off and r and especially this

687
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: last class lineman went really quick and I think that's

688
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: why the Steelers didn't end up with one. But he

689
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: was really a good player. So they have a pair

690
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: of book ends to start around, and maybe a quarterback.

691
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, if you find, if you find your

692
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: future left tackle and your future quarterback in the same

693
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: draft class, yeah, it can't do much better than that. Yeah,

694
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: in terms of value and importance.

695
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: They had a couple of defensive backs in the draft

696
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: to it.

697
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: And they like and then I was gonna say, a

698
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: couple guys in the secondary, Jonas Sanker and Quincy Riley

699
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: really key contributors, and then the fourth round linebacker out

700
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: of home, but Danny Sutzman ended up having a pretty

701
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: solid year two. So I mean, they it's pretty good.

702
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: They had five or six guys in that class that

703
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: really contributed this.

704
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Year and they end up winning a lot of games

705
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: on the stretch when these young guys started to get

706
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: their feet under them, and first year head coach and

707
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: it's crazy, like the Saints have kind of been a

708
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: butt of the jokes for a while because they maxed

709
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: out their credit card, like crazy I always say, it's

710
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: it's always Marty Gras, New Orleans. And they don't care

711
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: about the hangover, you know, they it really is. I mean,

712
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 3: they just live for today all the time. And then

713
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: they finally after decades, kind of bottomed out on purpose,

714
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 3: knowing that they had to eventually gotta eat your vegetables,

715
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: you know, and they could get back to being not

716
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: terrible pretty quick.

717
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: You know, they might win their division next year.

718
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: They might even be the favorite to and I don't know, yeah.

719
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: That's not like saying they're gonna win the NFC norms, no,

720
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: right or you know.

721
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: But if they're in the playoffs around this time next year,

722
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be totally blown away.

723
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: Same.

724
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

725
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 2: I mean, even if they end up being like a

726
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: Lions type team, you know, it's like the next one

727
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: on the outside look at. I think they will play

728
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: important football in December twenty six.

729
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they found a coach and quarterback and

730
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: pair of tackles.

731
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: And you know, it's good to hit on another draft

732
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: class and you're really good shape. Number two is the

733
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns, who we've discussed plenty. I totally get it,

734
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: how somewhat out of necessity but somewhat just because it

735
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 2: was the smart thing to do. They played a ton

736
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 2: of rookies. Mason Graham, obviously the fifth overall pick, who

737
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: Matt and I aren't.

738
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: In love with one one of their best rookies.

739
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: But he's a fine player. I think he's ever going

740
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: to be an All Pro or anything like that, but

741
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: he's a fine player. Carson Sweessinger, who certainly could be

742
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: on his way to some All Pro years.

743
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: One of the better linebackers in the league, alright.

744
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: And he's gonna win Defensive Rookie of the Year. I

745
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 2: would imagine quin Shawn Junkins, who was outstanding at running

746
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: back before he got hurt. And then you throw in

747
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: Harold Fan into the right end out of Bowling Green,

748
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: who was unbelievable, Dylan Gabriel and shod Or Sanders who

749
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: started a few games for them, Dylan Sampan.

750
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: Even if either one of those guys ends up being

751
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: a lifetime backup, that's probably worth the pick.

752
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so, as we kind of highlighted, it's weird

753
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: to evaluate for them because they hit on a lot.

754
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Carson Swessinger feels like a home run. Quinch On Jenkins,

755
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: I mean Harold fan. But they're just not at premium positions.

756
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: And I crushed them on draft day too for not

757
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: drafting an offensive lineman. To have draft zero of them crazy,

758
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: I mean, they're top six guys. Five of them are

759
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 3: free agents, and they're on the offensive line, and they're

760
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: all old too. Right, even if they would resign in

761
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: the pair of guards, et cetera, and you're trying to

762
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: build a next for quarterback too, you know, I wouldn't

763
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 3: have gone that direction. And even when they made the pick,

764
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: I would have taken Membo. I was.

765
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, and I'm glad it worked

766
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: out this way because we obviously wish the Cleveland Browns

767
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: no success.

768
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.

769
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: Imagine if instead of Mason Graham, if they would have

770
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: drafted Membo with overall.

771
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: At least you have a piece in place, and a

772
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: real good one on your offense.

773
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: You'd be looking at this class go and you might

774
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: have gotten the best offensive line, and you got the

775
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: best linebacker, you got the best tight It would be

776
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 2: one of the best, one of the best running backs.

777
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: That switch, which is one I thought was an easy

778
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 3: one to have made it on draft day, but boy,

779
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 3: no team needed more than them. I mean, I urge

780
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: people go to draft history dot com and watch it.

781
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: Go look at the Browns three drafts before this, Like

782
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: their average first pick is like the seventieth pick. Overall.

783
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: It's the Watson thing, but it's just so debilitated.

784
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: The Rams did that for a while and we're able

785
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: to succeed with it.

786
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: Yes, the Rams are so smart. I don't know if

787
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: we've had this conversation. They went nine straight years without

788
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: a first round pick.

789
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 6: I think everybody knows that Jared Goff until twenty four

790
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 6: until yeah from Jared Jared.

791
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that? And his and versus in his

792
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: second year, and we know how long golf's been around.

793
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: But they're so smart. They were phenomenal with the comp

794
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: pick game. So I did a little study. I think

795
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 3: they averaged like a eighth or I'm gonna say even

796
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: just under ten picks per draft, although none were in

797
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: the first round during that whole stretch. So you're at

798
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: least taking bites at the apple. You know, if you

799
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: bring in nine, ten eleven rookies and they made it,

800
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: three of them are fifth rounders, you're gonna find it

801
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: starting safety in that mix or a Gold.

802
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Cup in that mix right right too. At well, I

803
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: mean one of the keys, these guys.

804
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: We'll talk about this a time, but I definitely believe

805
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: there are people that are better at drafting than others. Yeah,

806
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 3: but it's such an inexact science.

807
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Make a lot of picks, because there's not an exact

808
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: science to getting Antonio Brown and Puka Nakua in the

809
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: sixth round or else somebody would do it every.

810
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: Year exactly, exactly. Make a lot of picks, Make.

811
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: A lot of picks. Number three the Giants not surprising,

812
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: Abdul Carter Jackson, Dart cam Scatty until until that injury,

813
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: pretty strong, Darius Alexander their third round pick first. It

814
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: definitely it helps.

815
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: You make the hunter trade, and you know, and you're

816
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: they were all bad teams to begin with. It's all helpful,

817
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: but that doesn't diminish from what your rookie class is.

818
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: See if they can get old Johnny Knoxville back in

819
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: the fold here.

820
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

821
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: Number four the New England Patriots, Will Campbell, Trevion Henderson,

822
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, Craig Woodson. It's good Josh Farmer, and.

823
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: I also think that speaks to this was not a

824
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: great rookie class across the league either, you know, like

825
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: I don't know thin the Steelers missed out on this

826
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: tremendous rookie class that the rest of the league benefited from.

827
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: Will Campbell to me, still a liability. People love them,

828
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: and I don't quite get it.

829
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: I think Jared Wilson is a really good pick for

830
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: that third round center.

831
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: Yes, he's playing guard for them, but he might move

832
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: back to s.

833
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: Yes. I don't think he's going to develop into a superstar.

834
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: But to get that guy in the third round I

835
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: think is really good value.

836
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you guys are going to this conversation

837
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: and watching rookies this weekend, I bet Will Campbell gets

838
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: his lunch eating by those Texan d ns.

839
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that'll be something to keep an eye on.

840
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about that. We'll get to those games

841
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: an hour. Number two Carolina Panthers five Teed McMillan, the

842
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: two edge rushers, Trevor ETN.

843
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: McMillan itself has a lot of weight there. That's pretty good.

844
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Probably gonna win Offensive Rookie of the Year.

845
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: There's a strong case that he was the best rookie

846
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: in the league.

847
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: The surprising one to me on this list, Matt is

848
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: because is the Atlanta Falcons at number six, but because

849
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: they only made five picks.

850
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: Because they had the trade up, but two of them

851
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: were first round Two of.

852
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: Them were first rounders, and Jalen Walker and James Pearce,

853
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: and we kind of take on those. They hit on those, yeah, yeah.

854
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: And their defense for the first time in the twenty

855
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: first century feels like trending in the right direction.

856
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: The safety Watts too, has been really useful. He teams

857
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 3: with baits, so they added a lot on defense. Now

858
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: it's interesting Atlanta lost their job, I mean, a GM

859
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: head coach, everybody they went. There was two huge moves

860
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: they made in the last year or so that weren't disasters,

861
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: but still I think they would take back if you could.

862
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: I think it's that trade, you know, to move back

863
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 3: into the first to move into the first round and

864
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: forfeit this upcoming first round pick, which is like ninth overall,

865
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: even though Pierce is fine, but I mean, I think

866
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 3: that they would redo that trade. And the other huge

867
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: move they made was they signed Cousins and then they

868
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: draft Penix at nine overall, but a month later.

869
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't make much sense right.

870
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Speaker 3: I mean those are two risky moves that you bet

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Speaker 3: that better be home runs or your owner says say, sorry,

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Speaker 3: I need someone else to do this. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 3: weren't even terrible moves, but they were big bites at

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Speaker 3: the Apple.

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Speaker 2: Number seven, the Chicago Bears, I thought they might be

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Speaker 2: a little bit higher.

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Speaker 3: Loveland's a star.

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Speaker 2: Colson Loveland, Luther Burdens really come on strong, Aussie Treppelo.

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Speaker 3: And he's just starting with tackle now it.

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Speaker 2: Filled you know, had to play what seven games, I

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Speaker 2: think or eight games.

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Speaker 3: That would move them up.

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Speaker 2: You get you get Kyle Mounting guy in the seventh.

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Speaker 3: Ye right, he's they're all offense.

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Speaker 2: They get Zah Frasier, Zach's alternate cousin in the universe.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I would have had them a few spots home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah eight, next years draft would be all defense. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: totally Yeah, you do with the quarterback draft around.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, build the nest. Yeah, number eight because the

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Speaker 2: l A Chargers number.

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Speaker 3: Eight they didn't get out of hamp.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I matchine if they would

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Speaker 2: have gotten a full year out of Omari and Hamptons.

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Speaker 3: A good player, but he was part of a group

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Speaker 3: the rookie Gadson did well.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say Ronde Gadson, the tight end was

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Speaker 2: the big one here.

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Speaker 3: Jamari Cadwell, he had to play a lot because of

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Speaker 3: injuries and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Same with r J. Mickens, the sixth round safety out

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Speaker 2: of Clemson who filled in admirably.

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Speaker 3: That's on a stellar class.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all right, it's all right.

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Speaker 3: You got some starters.

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Speaker 2: Number nine, the Baltimore Ravens, Malachi Starks, Mike green Man.

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Speaker 3: That's not doing much for me.

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Speaker 2: Teddy Buchannan started thirteen games at linebacker, the fourth round

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Speaker 2: draft pick out of Cal Tyler Loop. Thanks for that.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate that. By the way.

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Speaker 3: That's I'm not doing jumping jacks over that one either.

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Speaker 2: Not either, like the Jets are at ten. I might

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Speaker 2: have the Jets a few time. Memo and Mason Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Quality player too.

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Speaker 2: But again, if you're if you're finding two decade starters

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Speaker 2: in each of your draft class, yes you're doing pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the rule of thumb is if you

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Speaker 3: can get three, you're really happy. But I'm with you, like,

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Speaker 3: if you get two that are like second contract decade

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Speaker 3: long players for you, you put together a pretty roster,

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Speaker 3: pretty good roster pretty quick.

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Speaker 2: I think Membo in a couple of years might be

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Speaker 2: talked about like we talk about Pinasol and Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 2: And I think Mason Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a good quality.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think he's going to be Kelsey or Kittle,

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Speaker 2: but I think he can be really stinking good. Matt,

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Speaker 2: that's the top ten. Let's let's break here now, okay,

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Speaker 2: and then we.

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Speaker 3: Will bottom ten, which includes the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Do We'll get into the Steelers and some others to

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Speaker 2: start our number two, and then obviously we'll spend the

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Speaker 2: back half of our number two talking all about these

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Speaker 2: big four divisional games across the National Football League this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Halfway home here on the Drive, Wes Shuler Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network