1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Late fifteen to ten touched up to welcome to Chargers 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Weekly back at the Bolt in our brand new content studio, 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and a big thank you to all of you who 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: noticed who checked us out on YouTube. If you are 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: doing the audio only portion we mentioned it last week, 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: maybe pop on over, Maybe pop on over to the 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: YouTube to Chargers dot com. Check us out and see 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: what they put together, the incredible studios that they have built, 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: and where we will be doing Chargers Weekly from week 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: in and week out. Our fancy interview set to make 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: sure the people that join us, Jilil are all comfortable. 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: As Jalila dies with me today we look back. Well, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: first of all, you know, get your reaction to our 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: sweet Chargers Weekly podcast, Diggs. 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: What do you think I mean? This thing is. Everything 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: is hyped up to be walking here and you got 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: the bells, the whistles, the lighting is perfect, you got 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: the ghats on the wall, tomurrow, the bolt up sign 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: lit up. As you said, the little studio counts for 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: our guess that join us. This place is state of the 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: art and it's second to none. 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty sweet. They did it for you. You 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: mentioned the legends on the wall behind us, that the 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: people can't see, but I know there have been some 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: social media tours of this place Antonio Gates on their 26 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: congratulations to him again. Second year should have gone in 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: as the first ballot Hall of Famer. Ridiculous that he didn't. 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I would be absolutely floored if he does not go 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: in this year. But somebody that obviously you know very 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: well and very excited for him. So hopefully that all 31 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: gets put together. 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just honored that I got to play with 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: at least two of these guys on this war, Antonio Gates, 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers obviously obvious great leaders, awesome teammates and more 35 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: than anything straight baller is man. So it's an honor 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: and it's a pleasure to be able to share to 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: feel with those guys. 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: And I do just quickly as we hop in the 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: way back machine. Sure men, mister p abouty here, that's 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: any more dated reference. I'm happy that, like, because of 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: the Eli Manning debate and he is going to be 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: such a polarizing Hall of Fame candidate, that Philip Rivers 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: name is being brought back up, and there's a lot 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: of you know, circumstance, the defense that he played with 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: what Philip Rivers numbers are how he played. You think 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: about the championship game against the Patriots and how it 47 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: all just broke the wrong way injury wise for him, 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: and what we might be talking about it. I do 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: appreciate that people are celebrating Philip and the career that 50 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: he had. 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Philly Chies State, Philly Chies state, baby, nobody like him. 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: And now the Alabama High school circuit has to deal 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: with all right to current present day Chargers seven and 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: three in a very i would say comfortable position in 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: top wild card spot. The Chiefs and Bills tangle. The 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Bills do him a favor, give him a loss. So 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: maybe that doors cracked a little bit for the division. 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Now you feel better about it. But just let's begin 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: where it ended, and that is Sunday night and what 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: you saw against the Bengals start, which just kind of 61 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: give me your initial observations and what your initial takeaways were. 62 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: Well, they came out on fire, and when you watched 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: what they were doing offense and defensive wise. Obviously Jamar Chase. 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 2: When you look at Jamar Chase, he's the best receiver 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: in the league right now. And what they did with 66 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: him in the first half was really impressive. And then 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: how the offense came out striking on all celinders in 68 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: the first half was impressive. And obviously the second half, 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: you know, the Bengals, obviously they had Joe Burrow and 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase started getting hot, the defense started picking up 71 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: some keys what the offense was doing, and then that's 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: when you see the comebacks start to mount. But what 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: I will say is that was the most impressive about 74 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: that game is that the charges were up went into 75 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: halftime almost by eighteen eighteen points. The Bengals made a 76 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: run and they did not flinch at all. Right, So 77 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: at everything that we've seen, you could go excess, you 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: can go os. The thing that was the most important 79 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: to me was that the team did not flinch. That 80 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: shows the mentality, that shows the culture, that shows Jim 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Harball all over this team. And back in the day, 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: you know how they say the Chargers would usually charge 83 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: and I used to hear that all the time, chargering. Yeah, 84 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: the chargers would charge. They're charging, right, And I heard 85 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: that growing up playing for this organization. So to see 86 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: them not chargering or chargering right on a national stage 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: two and the lights of the brightest and I can 88 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: tell you right now, being a former player playing on 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: a national stage Sunday night, Monday night, you feel a 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: little bit different energy, right, So for those guys to 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: come out and walk away with the win and the 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: fascionate they did with forty five forty eight seconds left, 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: Herbert going down, driving down, and just a total complete victory, 94 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: total complete win from the game on Sunday night. 95 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: So still keep going with that, because, look, I've been 96 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: calling games for this team since twenty seventeen. It certainly 97 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: seemed like one of the bigger issues I think during 98 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's three year tenure was some of the worst 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: losses came in primetime, came in the playoff game, came 100 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday night against the Raiders, came against the Chiefs 101 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday at that overtime game where you have it 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: and it just kept slipping away how much? And there's 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of guys on this team from that. Yeah, 104 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: I did the look, and we'll get into that. We'll 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: get into how coaching matters when you start going through 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: this roster and you see the way guys are playing 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: and who was here and who's been at it and 108 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. But is it in the 109 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: back of your mind do you have scar tissue as 110 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: a player when you have because you're on some of 111 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: those teams that have charged that you lost those games. 112 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Are you thinking about it on the sideline. 113 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: As I would say, Listen, if I wasn't with this 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: new staff and this harbor regimen, I would say. 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean during your time as a player. 116 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Right as not really, when you're in the middle of it, 117 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: all you're thinking is about, hey, look, you know what 118 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: we are, where we are at this point in the game. 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: We're trying to finish this game, and I believe that 120 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: we can finish, and I believe that we can win. 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: That was always my thought, right right. It was never 122 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: here we go again, or I can't speak for everybody, right, 123 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: I cannot speak for everybody honestly, but my perspective on 124 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: the game was, no, Jalil, you got to do your job. 125 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: You got a ball. If opportunity comes to you to 126 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: make a play to end this game or put us 127 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: in a position to end this game, you got to 128 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: do that. And it was never like here we go again, 129 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: or oh oh, this is about to happen again and 130 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: we're about to it was never like that for me 131 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: money Sea. 132 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of players think that way. 133 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: It's too much going on at the time, so. 134 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: Assignment based, and it's so I got to make sure I, 135 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, do your job. I got to do my job. 136 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: And so I think that's maybe a disconnect from the 137 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: media and the fans that they assume that that's what 138 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: players are saying to themselves. Now I will say, I'm 139 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: not gonna name names, but there were a couple players 140 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: that did acknowledge that, and you know, I don't know 141 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: what that says about their mentality or their approach, but 142 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: that's I just don't think it's common. Now that said, 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say, and it's I'm posing 144 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: this as a question to you, right, that when you 145 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: have a coaching staff like they have, when you have 146 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: the philosophy, the culture change, the belief that's been instilled 147 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: in you, I do I think you go into games 148 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: feeling different, right. I think this coaching staff has led 149 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: to a different sort of vibe going into the games 150 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: before it kicks off. 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: Right, And even though it's the coaching staffs first year 152 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 2: with this articular roster, at the end of the day, 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: you look at Jim Harball and you say he's a winner. 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: He's done it at every level. So as a player, 155 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: you go into the game, not only has he prepared us, 156 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: I don't physically mentally, we know that this man leading 157 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: us to battle has done it at every level. He's 158 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: done it at the Super Bowl, obviously he took a 159 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: loss to his brother, but he's played at the highest 160 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: of the highest and he's done it. So when you 161 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: have a captain, when you have a leader like coach 162 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: Harball is for these guys, obviously, they go into every 163 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: game feeling invincible, and they go into every game feeling like, listen, 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: we have a shot to win it. 165 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: So let's get to the nuts and bolts of this one. 166 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned it kind of the overview. Obviously, Herbo's on 167 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: a heater. He and Greg Roman are just in sync 168 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: and they tearing that Bengals team apart. Everything's working big 169 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: time throws. We'll get into some of the stats that 170 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: have led to thankfully, more and more people starting to 171 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: talk about Justin Herbert in the MVP conversation because he's 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: throwing the ball better as good, if not better than 173 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: anybody in the league. Since the bye but I want 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: to start with the secondary because I go through the 175 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: YouTube comments. I like to engage with the people that 176 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: engage with us, and obviously a lot of them are 177 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: what happened in the second half, what happened to this team. 178 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing it too, and I think their 179 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: scar tissue from years past, they believes to get going. 180 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: And when I went back and I looked through it 181 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: and I watched, you know, all the plays and from 182 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, the all twenty two from the sideline or 183 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: from the end zone, it just kind of there's a 184 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: couple of things that jumped out of me. One injuries. 185 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton's one hundred percent, so he's out there. So 186 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: you start the game with Cam Hart playing bully ball 187 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: with Jamar Chase and the rest are letting it go, 188 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: and he's being physical and he's fighting him and he's 189 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: roughing them up a little bit and there's no flags. 190 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: You got Christian Fulton on the other side, he's playing well, 191 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: and you got John at the nickel and you see 192 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: Tarheb kind of rotating a little bit. They were picking 193 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: on just here a little bit, and Tarheb comes in. 194 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Well about the second half, you got Tarheb on the outside, 195 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: just Cam's out. 196 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: With a concussion. 197 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: You got Fulton dealing with the handings, So now j 198 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: just sere is playing outside corner and they are starting 199 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: to pick on him, and you got Durwain playing nickel 200 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: right like, I think it's expected that, okay if you're 201 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: out there in the secondary, Julia like, what are how 202 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: hard is that? And now Fulton's back in, and now 203 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: jobs back to the nickel, and now tar Heeb's out 204 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: and now Durwin's back play. It just felt like, man, 205 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: these guys, they are asking so much of them in 206 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: so many different roles to try to slow down the 207 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: best passing attack in the league in. 208 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: The league, and basically some guys are playing out of position. 209 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: And that's just what happens with injuries, because now it's 210 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: a shuffling board and you gotta put guys at certain 211 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: positions that they probably wouldn't have played or have practiced 212 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: those reps in practice. A lot of times you want 213 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: to get so many reps that you can practice in 214 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: practice with a certain group. So you go into the 215 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: week practicing throughout the week with a certain group. You're 216 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: communicating with your buddy, you know, what he's thinking. I 217 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: know what you're thinking. And then you get into the game, 218 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: and then he'd the battle. Everything shuffled, right, So then 219 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: you have to think on the fly. You have to 220 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: try to communicate differently than you would with the guy 221 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: that you've been working all week with. So and listen, 222 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: when the end of the day, it's the second half 223 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: and this is the NFL, and coaches make adjustments. Jesse 224 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: did a great job. Still, the two of the touchdowns 225 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: that they scored, they were double covered, right. Jamar Chase 226 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: was covered double and he split the double right. So 227 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: you can't say, oh, well, what did they do different 228 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: in the second half. Look, the guy just made a play. 229 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: He's gonna make forty million dollars a year for a 230 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: certain reason, right, and he showed it. And I keep 231 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: going back to it. 232 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: Now. 233 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to harp on Okay, they came back 234 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 2: and they made it close. I want to harp on 235 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: the fact that, listen, even with the injuries, even with 236 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: them shuffling it around, playing against one of the best 237 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: one to two combos in the NFL, they still came 238 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: out with the victory. And when it was time to 239 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: make the play at the last minute, they Durham batted 240 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: it down for the hell Mary and they walked away 241 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: with the w That ball was. 242 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: Into Higgins's hands main way, and there are not many. 243 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: He might be the best jump ball catcher in the league. 244 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you have you been 245 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: on a field with Tea before, Yeah, you have, so 246 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: you can speak to it. He is a huge human being. Yeah, 247 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: and he is a he's tall, he's athletic, and he's thick. 248 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: I would say he's similar to Mike Williams, yes, right, 249 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: similar to Mike Williams. Obviously Mike Williams is a little 250 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: bit heavier than Tea, but frame wise the way they 251 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: go up and get the ball. So the fact that 252 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: when was and Durwin wasn't even going forward, he was 253 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: almost going backwards when he jumped right, So the fact 254 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: that he made that play was even that much more impressive. 255 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna fall backwards in the end zone. I 256 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: was gonna and Derwin broke it up, and uh, you know, 257 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: it's perfect opportunity for us to get into this because 258 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: I love the postgame h message from coach Harbaugh, and specifically, 259 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: if you're watching on YouTube, you can see it. If 260 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: you're just listening right now, I think you might be 261 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: able to pick up the audio. But if you're watching, 262 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: read Derwin's lips, and if you're listening, see if you 263 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: can pick it up. Get each other. So if I'm 264 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: as good at reading lips as I think I am, Jalil, 265 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: I feel like Derwin came up. He kind of like 266 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: you could see the emotion on his face, and he said, 267 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I believe in you. We believe in you. And it's 268 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: just in that moment, moment, your emotions do the talking. 269 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: It's not calculated. You're not thinking, Hey what am I 270 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: going to say to coach. 271 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: It's almost like you're out of your You're out of 272 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 2: your body at that point. 273 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: And it's just, hey, this is my message to you. 274 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Like you just said, all of that defense was that 275 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: their best when when their best was needed. Offense was 276 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: at their best, when their best was needed special teams 277 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: best was were at their best on their and that's 278 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: and then Derwin immediately like a missile, just comes in 279 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: and embraces coach and and kind of gives him that message. 280 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Durwin's the alpha leader. That's the thing about it, right, 281 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: He's the off leader of this team, how this team goes, 282 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: especially how he goes as defense goes. And I told 283 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: you these guys going to the game, being around these 284 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: guys in training camp and the kind of culture and 285 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,119 Speaker 2: the kind of environment that Harbo hasn't started into this organization, 286 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: they go into the game believing, like, listen, we have 287 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: the best coach in the league. And not only do 288 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: we have the best coach in the league, we have 289 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: some of the best players in the league. So who 290 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: can stop us? Only ourselves? We can only hurt ourselves. 291 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: And I think that's how you seeing them continue to play. 292 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: They're like, listen, if we play mistake free ball, we 293 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: buy into the scheme, we buy into the game plan, 294 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: and we go and execute at a high level. Nobody 295 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: can mess with us. And that's being shown right now 296 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: sitting at seven and three. 297 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the other thing, you know, and whatever people 298 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: can paint it as, is a shill and apologetic. But again, 299 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity and you subscribe to NFL 300 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: Pro or whatever and you can watch the film, you'll 301 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: see it, like the defense is not busting coverages, they're 302 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: not missing assignments. Their pressure rate in this game was 303 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: almost fifty percent. Like, I'm gonna pull up the pressures 304 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: right now. Joey Bosa had eight pressures in this game. 305 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Tully had eight pressures and one and a half sec. 306 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: They basically pressured Joe Burrow. As I pull up the 307 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: pass rushing stats. 308 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: Money, this is all without Khalil Mack. 309 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: All without Khalil Mack. Right, thirty seven pressures. Yeah, thirty 310 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: seven pressures. That's over fifty percent pressure rate on his dropbacks. 311 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: So what you're talking about, Well, I don't know exactly. 312 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: You know, obviously some of them are two people pressuring 313 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: at the same time, but I believe the pressure rate 314 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: was at like forty seven percent for this game. So 315 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: think about that. That's what Jesse Minner put together rarely blitzed, 316 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and it was I'm in your and basically it's Joe Burrow. 317 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: It's Burrow just taking those couple steps up in the 318 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: pocket and finding two of the best receivers in the league. 319 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's elite. Joe Burrow's elite. And we always would 320 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: say the rush and cover work together. So if we're 321 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: lacking in the secondary because of injuries, then the rush 322 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: has to pick it up. 323 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: Right. 324 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: If the rush isn't getting home, then the defense has 325 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: to cover a little bit longer, and that's when you 326 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: hear the term cover sack. So we always as a defense, 327 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: our mindset was that the rush and cover work together 328 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: hand in hand. If one's down, the other picks it up. 329 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: If the secondary's up, we pick up the defense my 330 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: covering a little bit longer, giving them a little bit 331 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: exch more time to get home to the quarterback. And 332 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: that's what you're seeing. These guys are playing well. It's 333 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: like a weld order machine right now. 334 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Man, I think for the other thing that I'm going to, 335 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: uh if you whatever you want to call it, apologize for. 336 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: But oh, missfield goals, you got lucky and okay, yeah 337 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: they did. Yeah Evan McPherson's But guess what. Evan McPherson 338 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: came in thirteen to seventeen. He came in fifty percent 339 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: from beyond fifty yards. He is not having a good year. 340 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: So that's where I point out that from the Chargers 341 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: thirty on a th six, Burrow throws a dart to 342 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and bang tar Heeb still breaks it up. 343 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: Yep. 344 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: So instead of a first down, and you know, churning 345 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: more clock and getting closer for your kicker. He's now 346 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: got to attempt to forty eight yard er that he 347 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: missed the very next drive when they got into field 348 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: goal range at the Charger thirty three, that's when dayone. 349 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: Henley timed that thing up perfectly, got into Burrow's lap, 350 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: forced the air and throw, and now he's got an 351 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: attempt from fifty one, like, and he missed it. So 352 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, it was an easy chip shot, 353 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: and I know we expect that from Charger and Brandon 354 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Aubrey's kicking from sixty four and Cameron Dicker's making fifty 355 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: nine and he's missed all to one field goals, so 356 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: fu yeah, Like those are the plays. I think that's 357 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: what led to the SoundBite you just heard from coach 358 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Defense played their best when their 359 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: best was needed on those third down plays. 360 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a game of inches, like if they 361 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: convert that and then the field goal is even easier 362 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: for McPherson to make, right, So every little thing matters. 363 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: And I remember there was a term speaking of Phil. 364 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: We would always be in the weight room and he 365 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: would tell us before we broke down our weight, we 366 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: broke it down and we got into lifting. He said, 367 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: everything matters. How you wreck your weights matter, how you 368 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: set your bar matters, how you tell your shoes matter. 369 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: And they say the same thing here. Everything matters. When 370 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: you're lined up running sprints, your foots needs to be 371 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: behind the white line. Right when you're out there on 372 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: the field, your shirt needs to be tucked in. Lose 373 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 2: no lose shirts. We want to look like a team. 374 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: So everything matters. Right if you don't if Tarki doesn't 375 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: break up that pass, if Haley doesn't get in and 376 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: knock off Burrow to knock off his time, and now 377 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: we're looking at a more makeable field gold and it 378 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: could be a different story. So I think the culture, 379 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: once again, I keep going back to the culture. I 380 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: keep going back to what these guys believe in. Not 381 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: only do they believe it, not only are they saying it, 382 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: they're putting that on the field. 383 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you know one of the things 384 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: that in training camp and in the hiring process when 385 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Harbaugh was hired and when he brought in Greg Roman, 386 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of the dialogue surrounded you're going to 387 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: take away your superpower of Justin Herbert. This isn't this 388 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: isn't Colin Kaepernick, this isn't Alex Smith, this isn't JJ McCarthy. 389 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: You know, lean into it. And the one thing that 390 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I brought up that I had heard, you know, at 391 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: the combine and having done the combine for twelve thirteen 392 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: years now, the people that I kind of know and 393 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: I was trying to get a read on the quarterbacks, like, 394 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: give me what you read on on McCarthy, and pretty 395 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: much everybody said the same thing. They were like, there's 396 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: not a lot of production, and that makes you nervous. 397 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: But you can see in certain games when they're in 398 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: the balance multiple times when basically he's released, he's freed, 399 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: the chains come off and he says to JJ, go win. 400 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: It's the game. And that's which he's like, that's where 401 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: you buy in because every time it was asked of him, 402 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: he delivered. And so that's what it felt like in 403 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: this game. It's that you know, look, Herbo's been out 404 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: of control. He's been the best quarterback in the league 405 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: since Week seven, but it felt like that last drive, like, hey, 406 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: we're not gonna milk clock man, We're not going to 407 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: have Cam attempt a fifty five yard and if it 408 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: doesn't go through, we're at home. It's overtime. Let's lean 409 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: into the that it was. 410 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: We're going forward. 411 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: It's your time, man, it's your time. Justin go win 412 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: the game. 413 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: And that's what was so awesome to see because not 414 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 2: only did he do it, he got to do it 415 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: on a national stage, and a lot of times people 416 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: don't give Justin Herbert his flowers for whatever reason, but 417 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: now they have to start picking those things off and 418 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: giving it to him, right because he's playing at such 419 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: a high level, and not is when you're playing at 420 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: a high level. He's playing at a high level when 421 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: most people might shield up and tank because of the pressure. 422 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: Right forty eight seconds, so many yards ago, and you 423 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: hit lad, you're balling, you're dealing, you're willing, you're dicing, 424 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: you're moving your feet, you're running, you're picking up yards, 425 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: and you need to he's playing free. And earlier on 426 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: in the season, it was a lot of talk about 427 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: g row and Herbert and his numbers and his stats, 428 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: and obviously being in this kind of market la everyone 429 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: wants to see the big flash and we want to 430 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: see the bells and the whistles, and all gro did, 431 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: all Herbert did, all gim did was keeping in house 432 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: work on what they needed to work on. And now 433 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: we're seeing it grow into something beautiful and I hope 434 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: to see it continue to continue to grow as we 435 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: go down this stretch. 436 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's look, it's a planner injury for three weeks 437 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: of training camp with you know, Lad McConkie and DJ 438 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: Shark and Will Disley and Hayden Hurst and all these 439 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: new pieces that you don't get to work and running 440 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: backs so you don't get to work with. We know 441 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: how much you love throwing to Austin Ecklers, and now 442 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: you're trying to develop that relationship with Dobbins you can't. 443 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: And then in week two it's a gnarly high ankle 444 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: stranger that you're dealing with. And now that all of 445 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: that is in the past, you're back to seeing you know, 446 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: super Justin and and like you said, it's great. And 447 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: the thing about him is he always plays well in primetime. 448 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: You know, he loves it, just like Lamar loves it. 449 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: And we'll get into that. Lamar is a heck of 450 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: a primetime quarterback, which is going to make this Monday 451 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: night a really special But do you want to point 452 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: out on those plays right twenty seven I think it's 453 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine yards and twenty seven yards. So those are 454 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: what are considered big time rows, explosive places. It's something 455 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: that PFF keeps track of. They call them basically, they 456 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: call them btt's big time throws. Since week seven, Justin 457 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: Herbert has got seventeen big time. 458 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: Throws number one right now. 459 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: And two turnover worthy plays. So they don't like their 460 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: thing is, it's not the interceptions can be lucky. You 461 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: can have an interception lucky my t to dB to drop. 462 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: To think about Mike Hilton in that game where he 463 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: jumped it probably should have had to pick six, but 464 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: he didn't. So that's a turnover worthy play. And he 465 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: had one other one since week seven to go seventeen 466 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: to two big time throw because it's and the point 467 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: of that is, you're not dinking and duncan, you're not 468 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: throwing sick. You are putting the ball in danger. 469 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's number one in the NFL with passes over 470 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 2: twenty yards. Right, and his completion rates versus his turnover 471 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: rate is what's so important, what's so impressive, Right, he's 472 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: taking care of the ball right at a high rate, 473 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: and he's not even and like you said, he's not 474 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: dinking it a lot of times when you watch Brady. 475 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: When Brady was coming up, if it wasn't if it 476 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: wasn't there, he was just check down, check down, check down. 477 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: Justin is letting this thing rip. Yeah, right, And I'm 478 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: not comparing Justin to Brady, but I'm just letting you 479 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: know that this guy is a young kid that is 480 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: a baller. It's twenty six. He's a young kid, and 481 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: we need to start giving him his respect. National media 482 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 2: needs to start giving him his respect. And I'm excited 483 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: to see him play on that. 484 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: Yet's it's the it's the Greg Roman offense. And you're 485 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: gonna put handcuffs on Herbert. Why would you do that? 486 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: It's his it's his largest average at average depth of 487 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: target that he's had in his career. So yes, Greg 488 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: Romans here. But and here's the other thing that that 489 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: I'll point out for for all of for keeping receipts 490 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: and pointing out how and I say this repeatedly because 491 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: I think it's important to remind yourself they drafted Joe 492 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: Walt for a reason. At the trade deadline. No offensive 493 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: tackles moved for a reason. Who moved? DeVante Adams, Amari Cooper, 494 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: Wide receivers move. So this is justin Herbert doing this 495 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: with that offensive line and Joe Walt, who was the 496 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: highest graded tackle not rookie, highest graded tackle in the 497 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: game last week in a game in week eleven, Joe 498 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Walt and the key there is Herbert's number in a 499 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: clean pocket are absurd. He's basically number one in the 500 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: league or tied for number one in everything, in everything 501 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: if there's no pressure. So it's clear that Joe Ortiz 502 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: and Jim Harbond, all these people knew that. It's like, 503 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: give him a line. You get this guy. Time it's over, 504 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: you're done. So draft the tackle and it'll be mconkey 505 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: and Quinton and Josh Palmer and they'll be fine. 506 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: Control all delete is what they call him, Control all Delete, 507 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: and he's doing that. He's deleting the best team's pass 508 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: rusher week in and week out. And I remember after 509 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: the draft there was so much buzz keenan Allen's gone, 510 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: like William's gone. Neighbors are sitting in there. Why wouldn't 511 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: you go neighbors, and then they go left tackle out 512 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: of Notre Dame Big Joe All, and everyone's like, yeah, 513 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: he's a really good play, but what Herbert needs weapons? Right, 514 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: And then All is doing this thing all season. Earlier 515 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: on in the season, there's not much chemistry with the 516 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: wide receivers and then here goes ok, here it goes again, Well, 517 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: we should have drafted a wide or they should go 518 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: get one at trade deadline. And ever since that, ever 519 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: since trade deadline, ish about a week or two before that, 520 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: this and these receivers must have heard what people were saying. 521 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: They must have heard the doubters, the naysayers, and they've 522 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: stepped up. Ladd Q has stepped up, Disley has stepped up. 523 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: And it's as being a former player, right, you don't 524 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: want to ever hear about the negatives, but it's in 525 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: your lap. You hear what people say, you hear what kennedy. 526 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: You can't avoid it. Right. So this is the most 527 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: competitive league, most competitive job in America. So if I'm 528 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: hearing people tell me that we're not doing good as 529 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: a group, I'm taking that personal and that brings out 530 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: the competitiveness in me. So I think that's a lot 531 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: to do with what these receivers have done. They've said, 532 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: you know what, we're gonna take that negativity. We're gonna 533 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: let it fuel us, and we're gonna show these guys. 534 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: We're gonna show the country, We're gonna show this the media. 535 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna show ourselves most importantly, that we're worthy of this, 536 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: of this job, and we can get it done with 537 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. 538 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: And again, if you're watching it, you're gonna see it 539 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: right now. If you're listening, hopefully I can do it 540 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: justice to describe. But Lad McConkey is in the conversation 541 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: as the best receiver, best rookie receiver in the league 542 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: with what he's doing right now. So just kind of 543 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: I think he was the ninth one ninth. I think 544 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: it was a ninth one taken if I remember right, 545 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: because you got worthy leg get in front of him. 546 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: Obviously the big three that went early in Harrison, Neighbors 547 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: and a Dune say maybe a seventh. I think it 548 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: was seventh. So as you watch these plays one like, 549 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: that's what's great about these back to back plays that 550 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: put them in position to win the game on the 551 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: JK touchdown first one, right, sideline. He and Herbert are like, 552 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: hey man, Hilton jumped it last time. Get him to 553 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: bite and then I'm gonna throw the out and up. 554 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: And if you aren't a good route runner, if you 555 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: can't sell that, Hilton's not biting right. So that's what 556 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: you just saw, Like he sells it and then he's 557 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: got to get up, contort his body and secure the cat. 558 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: That's the thing that's most impressive to me about Ladd 559 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: because a lot of people think he's just quick, shifty 560 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: slot guy, route option routes, slants direct. He goes up 561 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: against the ball. He did it against the Raiders and 562 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: he did against the Bengals at the times that was 563 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: needed the most. He went up, high pointed, torked, his body, 564 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: shows really good body control, and then he has a 565 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: speed to pull away. Like this kid's so impressive. Obviously, 566 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: my brother Coast had I remember watching him in Georgia 567 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: and I didn't know that it was going to transfer 568 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: over to the NFL this quickly. I knew he was 569 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: a good player. I didn't know how long it would take, 570 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: but it's it's transferred over really fast. He's humble, he's 571 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: he's respective, he's respectful, excuse me. And he's just a 572 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: kid that you pull for man undersized most people say 573 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: he's unersize and height and wait and all he does 574 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: eats in every Sunday and hopefully Monday nights. Go out 575 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: there and ball out. 576 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you you know, so that's this is 577 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: what's great about lad is oh slot guy, quick, shifty 578 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: and so this basically the game winning play, the game 579 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: winning throw that puts you into very comfortable Cameron dickerfield 580 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: goal range that then leads to the JK as you watch, 581 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: like look at the separation. Just look at this separation. 582 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, as you're watching, keep an eye 583 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: on Herbert and and what's happening to him. Because Hendrickson 584 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: is in his lap. He knows he's going to take 585 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: a shot. He takes a shot to the head, by 586 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the way, and there's no flag, which there should have been, 587 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: but that's Herbert throwing just arm. There's no legs into 588 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: it because Hendrickson's lap. He takes a shot to the head, 589 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: but he throws it because of Ladd McConkie's separation, because 590 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: of how quickly he shakes his defender gives him a massive, 591 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: wide open target and The other key with that play 592 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: is like it's there's a reason why they say it's 593 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: a game of inches, right. So Herbert hits McConkey in stride, 594 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: he runs out of bounds. They have one time out left. 595 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: If they don't have that time out, they're not running JK. 596 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Dobbins exactly. 597 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: So it all so it's Herbert's willingness to stand and 598 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: take the shot from Hendrickson, deliver the ball on time, 599 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: McConkie's ability to shake his defender and get wide open 600 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: sprint to the sideline to stop the clock. You keep 601 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: your time out, and you get to go into a 602 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: huddle and say, let's go win the game. Man, to 603 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: hell with this, let's go win the game. 604 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: I agree with you. What's even more impressive if you 605 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: look at the play, lads lineup at I think number one, 606 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: and he motions down to create a stack between the 607 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: three and two where I receiver combo right, So hats 608 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: off the gym, hats off the g row. They didn't 609 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: line up an They motioned him so he couldn't get pressed, 610 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: and then he runs. They called it a seventy seven 611 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: high two seven routes. Palmer ran the low one ladder 612 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: in the high one and there you have it. The 613 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: low defender broke on the low one and that was open. 614 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: So it was a really good play draw by Giro 615 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: and Jim harbough Man. You got to give him credit 616 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 2: in the time like that when listen, this next play 617 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: has to be your best play in that roll of 618 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: decks of playbooks that you have, and they brought it out. 619 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you it just to kind of 620 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: put a cap on it. I think that you saw 621 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the day, right, you have Justin Tucker missing 622 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: field goals cost the Ravens the game. You have Cairo 623 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Santos get a field goal block cost him the game 624 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Bears against Packers the week before. You have Forsyth get 625 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: bowled over. Block field goal from the Broncos cost him 626 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the game, and who knows down the line could end 627 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: up costing them a playoff spot. Potentially, the Chargers have 628 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: the best kicker in the game, could have just hey man, 629 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: where do you want to cam? It's gonna be a 630 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, thirty or forty three yarder. They could have 631 00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: done that. 632 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: Run the clock, That's what I thought they were doing. 633 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: Right, And instead, let's let's see if we can pop 634 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: one and credit to the Running Game, because you know 635 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: it was hard for JK to come by yards in 636 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: that game. And you wear them down, man, and as 637 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: you wear teams down, you get to impose your will. 638 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: That's what they did. There were so many good blocks 639 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: on that Mattlock has a block, I thought, if I 640 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: remember right, and I think Tray was the polar. I 641 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: think Trey was the polar and had a great seal 642 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: on the kickout, and it's just it's got to be 643 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 1: fun to have all eleven pieces kind of come together 644 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: working together to have a play like that to seal it. 645 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you compare it to a heavyweight fight, 646 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: and all day long in that fight, for twelve rounds, 647 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: you're going at the body, and you're going at the body, 648 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: and he's not falling, he won't get knocked down. And 649 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: then in the last last round, last twelve rounds, last minute, 650 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: maybe in the twelfth round, body shot, body shot, you 651 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: fake it to the body and you go to the 652 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: head and you knock down the giant. And that's what 653 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: they did all game long. That, like you said, the 654 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: Running Game wasn't really there early on. For the most 655 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: of the game. There was two yards in a cot 656 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: of dust. Right, they kept fighting, they didn't go away 657 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: with it. They believe in their run game, they believe 658 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: in their offensive line. And then we've seen him break 659 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: at the end in the twelfth round. Man, it was 660 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: awesome to see. 661 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Well, Joe Alt a big reason why it happened, comes 662 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: out with an eighty point eight grade in forty seven 663 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: pass blocks, gives up just a single pressure in that contest. 664 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: So let's get the Joe. So Joe, let's coming off 665 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Certainly go back look at the film. Heck 666 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: of a game for you. The offensive line kind of 667 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: walk us through because there was much made about what 668 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: this matchup was gonna be. Do you guys come out ahead? 669 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: What was it like getting in there and getting out 670 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: of there with a win? 671 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 672 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: No, I mean it feels amazing obviously coming into any 673 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: game and coming out the win as the goal and 674 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: being able to, you know, play like we. 675 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: Did as an offensive line. 676 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: We're just we're just trying to continue to stack each 677 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 4: and every week and just get a little bit better 678 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 4: as a whole group, working on things from the previous 679 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: week to improve on. I feel like we took a 680 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 4: step this past week and I was read to see 681 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 4: in the film. 682 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: Hey Joe, I keep watching your tape and I watch 683 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: you on Sundays, and you're doing a heck of a job. Man. 684 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: I got to give your roses early as a rookie. Man, 685 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: thank you. But I just want to I just want 686 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: to say, like coming in with a guy like Slater, 687 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: me and Money touched on it. And when I came in, 688 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: I got to be mentored by a guy by the 689 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 2: name of Eric Wetto and at the time Pro Bowl 690 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: All Pro. How much and how impactful as a young 691 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: rookie does it help your game on and off the 692 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: field and teach you to be a pro When you 693 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: have a guy like Slater you can learn from. 694 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Slater's been the biggest help for me. 695 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 4: It's just from practice to watching a rep or you know, 696 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: from a game or whatever it is, watching film. He 697 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: just he's been through it and he knows the game. 698 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: It's just high level. He plays a game such a 699 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: high level. He's like one of the best in the league. 700 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: So being able to bounce questions off of ask him, 701 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 4: you know, watch things with him, work with them after practice. 702 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: He just knows so much and such such a huge 703 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 4: help for me. It's been great, you know, being able 704 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: to build that relationship both on and off the field. 705 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: He's been a huge help. 706 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: It's a big deal made about, you know, flipping you 707 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: to the right side and what that transition was going 708 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: to be. Like, Like, where are you at now through ten games? 709 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: Is the right tackle versus where you felt you were 710 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: in week one? 711 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, you know, every single time I get in 712 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: that stance, it's just a little bit better. It just 713 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 4: continues to work. It's definitely not where I obviously wanted 714 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: to be. I'm always tasing perfection and that just it's 715 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: not there yet, but just continuing to try to improve 716 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 4: each and every week. But it feels obviously much more comfortable, 717 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: you know, being this many games, in this many practices 718 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: sets in. 719 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: It's it's getting that for sure. 720 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: You keep saying you want to keep improving, you want 721 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: your perfectionists. 722 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: Right. 723 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: So, coming into training camp being a high draft pick 724 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: and being able to go against Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa, 725 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: Toolly and Bud just speak to the people a little 726 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: bit about how much taking those reps THO was one 727 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: on one reps. I mean because on Sundays you're not 728 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: playing many guys that are better than these guys you 729 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: get to see in training camp and practice. Man speak 730 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: a little bit about that was. 731 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 4: It was like the perfect welcome to the NFL moment, 732 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: being able to go up against those guys every single day, because, 733 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 4: like you said, they're the best, some of the best 734 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: in the league. So being able to take those reps 735 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 4: early and have it being a practice setting and really 736 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: just being able to all, right, you know this didn't 737 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: go well. Why didn't it go well? And it's against 738 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 4: some of the best. So being able to improve against 739 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: the best just allows you to grow as a player 740 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: and as a person, and also you know, allows you 741 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: to build that mental you know strength to be like, hey, 742 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: I got beat today his training camp. Obviously not where 743 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: I want to be, but just being able to continue 744 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 4: to grind and then you start to you know, see 745 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: things like oh that did work today, and now how 746 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: do I just keep improving? 747 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: That? 748 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: It was It was huge and they were so helpful 749 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 4: to me, even though like you know, Pou's practice, I 750 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: open's like what did you see or why did you 751 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 4: you know, why did you use that move? And they 752 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: would tell me things I just can could always just 753 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: you know, tinker with my set, tinker with my hands, 754 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: whatever it was, to just try to keep getting little 755 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: bit better every single day through training camp. 756 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: Do you mind uh take? Because they're different, they're all different. Like, 757 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: can you, as someone who has to go against him 758 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: in practice, if we just kind of give you each 759 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: of them, how would you go? How would you describe 760 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: how they attack you? You know, bud Tu Lee, Joey 761 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: and yeah. 762 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: I would say, you know Khalil, it's it's speed to power, 763 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: and that's where you got to be, you know, most 764 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: most on your game. For he's got the speed of 765 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 4: beach on the edge, he's got the ability to go underneath. 766 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 4: But you know, when he goes to that speed of power, 767 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: you have to make sure you're fear in the ground, 768 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: you're ready to strike because there's power behind that. It's 769 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 4: if you're not ready, it's gonna you know, it's gonna 770 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 4: hit you hard. So that's the biggest thing I think 771 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 4: with with Joey's being able to understand that he has 772 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 4: ability to move latterly so well inside and outside, and 773 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: when he gets on your body, he can make moves 774 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: in really tight spaces. 775 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: You have to be able to, you. 776 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 4: Know, keep your hands out there and he's going to 777 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: take them, and being able to not be so you know, 778 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: forward heavy, know that you can replace your hands, but 779 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: it's it's speed off the ball. He has one of 780 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: the better get offs that I've seen, and being able to, 781 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: you know, really be focused in your set, being on 782 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: that snapcount getting off because if you're not off, he's 783 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 4: on that corner before you know it. So and then 784 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 4: with Tully it's the ability to have that power. But 785 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: then he doesn't only use power. He has the ability, 786 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: like I said, to spin, to hit the edge with things, 787 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 4: and then his motor he continues to rush and you're 788 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: not just gonna you know, get your hands on it 789 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: and stop. He's going to continue to work. So it's 790 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 4: a it's a battle that ball is gone for sure. 791 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: Talking about the tackle position with Money, I always say 792 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: like as a defensive player of the tackle position is 793 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: similar to be in the corner, right, one of the toughest, 794 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: if not the toughest position in the NFL. You're going 795 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: against physical guys, athletic guys, and they can use any 796 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: kind of move on you, and you're on an edge, right, 797 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: So a lot of times it's one on one. Right, 798 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: you talked about speed to power, and a lot of 799 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: times tackles who are a little bit shorter have a 800 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 2: little more center of gravity and be able to take 801 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: on speed to power a little bit more. You're a 802 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: guy six ' eight, how do you stay ready for 803 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: the outside speed move? But also they can hit you 804 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: with outside they hit you it under. But if they 805 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 2: hit you with the speed to power while you're on 806 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: your heels, how do you anchor down? 807 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was probably the biggest thing that Rashaan taught me, 808 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 4: and it was a lot to do with, you know, 809 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 4: the ability to refit your hands and really use your 810 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 4: lower half to get it into the block once you know, 811 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: once they've committed to it. You can never commit to 812 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: early because that's when you see you guys kind of 813 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: get froze. They drop their center of gravity. Then a 814 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 4: guy hits them on the edge, so you really have 815 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: to almost you know, strike them, let them set it, 816 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: and then it's all about how you can refit your hands, 817 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 4: how you can bring your hips into the block. And 818 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: that's really you know, some of that Slater taught me 819 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 4: that I'd never been coached before. You know, I've had 820 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 4: a lot of coaches in college, my dad, you know, 821 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: a lot of things. And Slater was like, try this out, 822 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: and I tried it and it was just it's been 823 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 4: a you know, a huge help for me so far 824 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 4: this season though. 825 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: Speaking of U Slay, I got to give credit to 826 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: to DJ Daniel Jeremiah who does the games with me, 827 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: and he pointed out two plays in the Tennessee game, 828 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: and they're two ridiculous plays. One from you, one from Rashawan. 829 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: You smile on it, but you know where I'm going. 830 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: The fourth down run. I have no idea how Rashaun 831 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: got inside to seal that block. I mean, he's was 832 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: it Landry? I think there was two steps inside of him. Yep, 833 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: and then yours. You're on the ground like you, I 834 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: don't know if you slipper, what's going? Yeah, you are 835 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: still engaged and you make it back up as engaged. 836 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: Like take us through those two plays because people aren't 837 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna watch offensive line play on field. Man, it was 838 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: fun to watch both those. 839 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: No, I'll start with Rashawn's. 840 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: You know, watching him be able to do that, and 841 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: it's it's almost hard to watch him do it because 842 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: you're like, I don't know if I can replicate that 843 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: in game like that. I just don't have that ability. 844 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 4: So it's like, all right, what can I take from 845 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: it that he did well here that I can replicate 846 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: to my my game? All right, getting off on the 847 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: snap count, having efficient full work, being able to use 848 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 4: your body and get in position with your hands. So 849 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 4: like can't really replicate for Sean how he did it, 850 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: but it's like, all right, what can I take from 851 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 4: it and try to like add to my game. That's 852 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: really why I watched that mine, you know, to be 853 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 4: completely honest, it's kind of one of those panic moments. 854 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: You're like, I'm on the ground. This is not you know, 855 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 4: we're running this ball down hill right behind me, Like 856 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 4: I gotta get up and go. So yeah, it was 857 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 4: one of those things where you know, I doun to 858 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: a knee and I knew I how to get back 859 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: up and just if I get any vertical push or 860 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: just allow you know, just maybe that that one extra 861 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 4: cut or that one extra you know step to get 862 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: so just get those extra yards. 863 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 3: So that was kind of what I was thinking on 864 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: that play. 865 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: I know you you know you're you're a humble guy. 866 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to get you to pack yourself 867 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: on the back, But what did your coaches say when 868 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: you get back, because I would assume that's a big 869 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: hey man, this guy wants it. This guy that's That's 870 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: kind of what it reads to me. 871 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it always starts off with the negative, like, yeah, 872 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 4: you don't want to be on the ground. You want 873 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 4: to stay on your feet for sure, and you know, 874 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 4: have efficient for work and not get yourself in that position. 875 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 4: But then it's like, hey, you know you're you know, 876 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 4: good job, you know, continue to fight through the block, 877 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: allowing that play to continue and not you know, giving 878 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: up and making a pile on the ground where you 879 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: know other guys can follow you guys and get hurt, 880 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: et cetera. 881 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: So they were they were happy with. 882 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: That, Joe, I just have to ask, coming in as 883 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: a rookie and being able to block for a guy 884 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 2: like Justin Herbert and having the success that you've had 885 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: so far, what can you really credit to your game? 886 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: Is it? 887 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: Is it film? Is it extra work in the weight room? 888 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: Does it work after practice? What has allowed you to 889 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: be so successful at a high rate? Control all delete baby? 890 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: What has allowed the control delete to be in effect. 891 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I think it always starts me in the 892 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 4: film room. I think that's where I get my my 893 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 4: confidence being able to you know, I put myself in 894 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 4: the tackles position that I'm watching on the field, if 895 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 4: it's me or if it's you know, a different opponent 896 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: who they're playing, who are gonna play that week, and 897 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 4: just kind of being able to see what they see 898 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 4: pre snap, you know, into the rush, what are they 899 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: what does that guy's you know go to. Okay, if 900 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 4: you're gonna set him like this, he's gonna do this, 901 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 4: and just kind of getting a feel so you have 902 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 4: that confidence going into the game like all right, I 903 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 4: never know what you're they're gonna do, but you have 904 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 4: an expectation where Okay, if I said them like this, 905 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: I should expect power or if you know, if I 906 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 4: get leany, he's gonna hit an inside move stuff like that. 907 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: So that's where it all kind of starts. 908 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 4: And then you know, me and Rashaan are big about 909 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 4: you know, watching the film on Mondays and Tuesdays and 910 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 4: then when it hits you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday practices, 911 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: that's all right, what moves am I gonna see the 912 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 4: most this week? What moves have I not seen the 913 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: previous weeks that I want to just get a couple 914 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 4: of ex reps at And you know, me and Rashaan 915 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 4: are the best you know d Edge, you know, giving 916 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: look giving look guys, but we give it to each 917 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: other just so you get that confidence of you know, 918 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 4: feeling it out and be like, Okay, I when you 919 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 4: get into the game, I've seen this or I've seen 920 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 4: this or I've felt this. I think that's been the 921 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: biggest thing for me. And then just continue to take 922 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 4: one thing every week. For me, it's one thing to pass, 923 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: one thing the run is what have I got to 924 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: improve on this week? And I think that's been. 925 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: You know, huge for me. 926 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: Just to continue to try to make you know, little 927 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 4: steps each and every week. 928 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: One thing to get the two big pass plays to 929 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: with forty five seconds left in that game. But when 930 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: you're in Cam Dicker field goal range, feel pretty good 931 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: about where the game's going. What what's Joe Alt thinking 932 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: When you're in the huddle and you hear power called 933 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: and you know that that play is coming and where 934 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: it might go. 935 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 4: Well, I just saw JK run over to the sideline 936 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 4: come back and I was figuring, we're, you know, figure 937 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 4: out something with like, hey, are we going to get down? 938 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 3: We gonna go score. 939 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,320 Speaker 4: Whatever, and he's like, we're going for and I'm like, 940 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: all right, So we get into power and I there 941 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 4: was a look in that huddle where it's like, all right, 942 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: it's time to you know, close this game out. We're 943 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 4: in We're in the position, and I think everybody kind 944 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 4: of felt that and it ended up clicking for all 945 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 4: of us and making that big play hit and just 946 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: celebrating on you know, power to win the game and 947 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: that kind of a game is so cool and touch 948 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 4: a fun experience for the entire group, and being able 949 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 4: to finish in the end zone is you know, the 950 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 4: best feeling. 951 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: So it was a great, great experience for us. 952 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 2: You mentioned and for a long time around here Wave 953 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: you probably were in diavers at the time. But there's 954 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: a term saying that the chargers charger. They're charging, right, 955 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: they have leads, they're winning, and then they lose at 956 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 2: as a crazy fashion, maybe a block kick, maybe a 957 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: missfield goal. And that has shifted right now. Right this 958 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: this season has been totally different. Can you I was 959 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 2: talking to Money about it, And I don't know if 960 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: it's Jim Harball, it's the coaching staff, or if it's 961 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: just the players and the leaders saying, you know what, 962 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: we're gonna change that narrative and we're gonna go out 963 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: there every Sunday and we're gonna believe that we can 964 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 2: get this done no matter what it is. What has 965 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: been the shift in the culture here when you when you. 966 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: Think about it, I think definitely coaching staff is, you know, 967 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 4: one of the most important things. I think you know, 968 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 4: a lot of us guys in training camp didn't love it, 969 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: but we'd finish. 970 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 3: Our pressure with the fourth quarter finished. 971 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: I remember I was there, yeah, and it was like, 972 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 4: that's the last thing you want to do after a hot, sweaty, 973 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: you know, practice. But it puts you in that mindset like, hey, 974 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a hot, sweaty game and you're gonna 975 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 4: get down to like just like this last week's game, 976 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: and like both teams are tired, both teams want to win. 977 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: It's right there, and it's you know, who wants it more. 978 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 4: And I think there's definitely some do a test to that, Hey, 979 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 4: we pushed ourselves past that point of just finishing practice 980 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 4: there's that extra little bump, and I think just that 981 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 4: mindset from that and the coaching staff, and we've kind 982 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 4: of taken that on now as a team and it's 983 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 4: you know, when it gets to the fourth quarter, that's 984 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 4: our time. We're gonna do whatever it takes to you know, 985 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 4: come out with that win. 986 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: What you mentioned, you guys kind of watch Monday Tuesday. 987 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you want to share, but 988 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of a lot of meat 989 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: up front on this Baltimore defense. Like, what what do 990 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: you see from from these guys? 991 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're exactly right. 992 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 4: There's a it's a great you know, front seven got 993 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 4: a lot of ability to stop the run, big guys inside, 994 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 4: skill on the outside in the past. So it's really 995 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 4: gonna be a full you know, offensive line effort to 996 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 4: allow the run game to go, all the pass game 997 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 4: to go. You know, we gotta be able to protect 998 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 4: but also be able to run the ball efficiently. So 999 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing for us is just really 1000 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 4: you know, continue to take those steps. And this is 1001 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 4: a big challenge for us as a group. We got 1002 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: bigger guys inside and being able to take what we've 1003 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: been improving on and now really put it to the test. 1004 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: This week will be a big, you know, exciting thing 1005 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 4: for us. 1006 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: So you talked about the fourth quarter, and for the 1007 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: people back at home, I don't think they really they 1008 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: might have went over the head right, And a lot 1009 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: of teams playing my nineties in the NFL, I've never 1010 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: done it, witnessed it this year. The coaching staff doing 1011 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 2: the build walls internship. Can you explain to the audience 1012 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: at home exactly what her put you guys through and 1013 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 2: what the fourth quarter is. 1014 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know, at the end of practice we'd 1015 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 4: be finishing up. We don't have our last little you know, 1016 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 4: team team breakdown. We get out and with you know, 1017 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 4: most teams or the teams I've been on, you had 1018 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 4: to locker room and we would head over to near 1019 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 4: the weight room and it'd be a variety of things 1020 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 4: to be planks, push ups. We have these things called 1021 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 4: flip sleds. We'd flip those. It'd be you know, bear crawls, 1022 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: all sorts of things. And it was thing is just 1023 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: to you know, when you're tired, when you're fatigued, to 1024 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: push your body, but more so push your mind to 1025 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 4: complete a task. When you're tired and when you don't 1026 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 4: want to go further. And I think we all just 1027 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 4: slowly kind of built through as we gone. They got 1028 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 4: harder as we went, but we were able just. 1029 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 3: To continue to push. 1030 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 4: And I think it really built up that, you know, 1031 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 4: even when we're tired, even more fatigued, we got to 1032 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: push through just wherever whatever that may be. 1033 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: Even we You know, people like skill players, they like 1034 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: statistics and stuff, but the numbers are there, like you 1035 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: could make You can make a case with numbers of 1036 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 1: how well Justin throws the ball when he's not pressure. 1037 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: He's a number one quarterback in the league's number quarterback 1038 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: in league against Blitz. If the pressure doesn't come, you've 1039 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: been if you pay attention PFF grades. I know people 1040 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: don't really get crazy about him, but Joe Walt's pictures 1041 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: popped up a number of weeks. Is the best graded 1042 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: tackle a the best certainly the best rookie tackle. Any 1043 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: thoughts You got a marketing person that can like start 1044 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: pushing the Joe Walt Rookie of the Year campaign. See 1045 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: if we can get for all the old not just 1046 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: for you. You know, it's not a selfish word. It's for 1047 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: all the alignment that come into break the barrier. 1048 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 4: Droone, No, I mean, obviously there's always goals in mind, 1049 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 4: and like I'm not gonna be one to boast myself. 1050 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 3: I'll miss kocking that guy. 1051 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: But you know, for me, it's you know, there's always 1052 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 4: that great puplusity out there, but it's fastly gonna greating 1053 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 4: me bad. 1054 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: So I just got to keep my mind. 1055 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 4: And my head down and just continue to, like I said, 1056 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 4: just kicking a little steps. And you know, I think 1057 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 4: the results always take care of themselves. You know, you 1058 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 4: can put goals out there, but if you really, in 1059 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 4: my mind, if you get two folks from the goal, 1060 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 4: you kind of lose track of what's at hand now. 1061 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 4: And that's just trying to improve a little bit by 1062 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 4: a little bit every single week and those results to 1063 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 4: take care themselves. 1064 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 2: Joe, that was an extremely humble answer. That would have 1065 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 2: been probably totally different what I would have said, Like. 1066 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: You knows for the brand, you know, for the punters, 1067 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: like I don't know what it would be for the 1068 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: is it for the beef for something? Right, Like we 1069 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: got to get something. 1070 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 4: Going alignment, ye know, it has to be something someone's 1071 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 4: got to start something. I don't know if that's going 1072 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 4: to be me, but you know I always want the 1073 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 4: old line to you know, get appreciated. 1074 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's always part of it for sure. 1075 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: Speaking of Humble, justin Herbert's the same way. Humble doesn't 1076 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: like the camera. All about team, never about me. What 1077 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: have you seen with his leadership? Right? Playing for a 1078 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 2: guy like him, usually not as vocal, not as doesn't 1079 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 2: show much emotion, but these last few games, these last 1080 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 2: few weeks, he's fired up. He's showing emotion and we'd 1081 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 2: love to see it. What can you say about his 1082 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: leadership and that step that he's taken. 1083 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know when you see that look in his 1084 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: eyes and that excitement, it just, I don't know, it 1085 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 4: makes you feel like you can run through a brick 1086 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,720 Speaker 4: wall for him, It just a builds so much confidence 1087 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 4: for the group and so much excitement, and you know 1088 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 4: that makes the game so much more fun. It makes 1089 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 4: you want to work that much harder just to see. 1090 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 4: You know, that's why I do the job. You know, 1091 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 4: you see the excitement in the running back, the quarterback, 1092 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 4: the wh or for the tight end's eyes when they 1093 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 4: have success. You know, that's what I play the game 1094 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 4: for and being able to go out there and do 1095 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: that and see guys have success and find joy in 1096 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 4: the game brings me joy. So I've always loved that 1097 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 4: part of it, being able to see, you know, this 1098 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 4: team so to kind of take on that, you know 1099 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: that I would say personality a little bit where when 1100 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 4: things are going well, we can celebrate and be it, 1101 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 4: enjoy it, but also we have to work and we 1102 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 4: have to work to get to these spots. So I 1103 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 4: think that's been really cool to see and see justin 1104 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 4: kind of take on that. You know that personality has 1105 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 4: been fun for all of us as a group, and 1106 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 4: it really just it really boosts us and makes it 1107 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 4: just want to work that much harder. 1108 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: What's the for for people that are watching on the YouTube, 1109 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: they can see the disparity and size between someone like 1110 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: me and someone like you. So it looks like Honey 1111 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: Shrunk's embarrassed, humiliating this what it is. But what is 1112 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: what's the best thing about being the size of Joe Walton. 1113 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: What's the biggest challenge of being the size of Joe. 1114 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: Walt The biggest challenge is easy. It's flying, right. I 1115 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 4: cannot stand flying. I grew up and I grew up 1116 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 4: on a Minneapolis was at South Bend and had to 1117 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 4: fly a lot of these small air planes and getting 1118 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 4: back and home from college and really tight things. So 1119 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: airplanes is easy the best I would say in crowds 1120 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 4: you can see over everybody and being able, like if 1121 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 4: you're like with a group, you gotta find your group 1122 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 4: release if you get disconnected. So that's a kind of 1123 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 4: a weird answer, but I said, that's the biggest perka 1124 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 4: being big. 1125 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm I'm a father, right, and your dad 1126 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: played in the NFL, and I coached my little kids 1127 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 2: and youth sports, and I know how much it means 1128 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: to me to watch my kids have fun and do 1129 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 2: what they love. And obviously I know your dad's super 1130 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 2: proud of you. Most people might not know that your 1131 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 2: dad was played in the NFL, did play for the Tie's. Unfortunately. 1132 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 2: What did he teach you and what point does did 1133 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 2: he give you just growing up? And how much do 1134 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: you think he impacted your game and your success to 1135 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 2: who you are now? 1136 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the thing that he taught me at 1137 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 4: a young age that has really stuck with me is 1138 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 4: just the term you always used with refusal to lose 1139 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 4: and you know you're gonna lose the life, like the 1140 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 4: things are going to go poorly, but it's just that 1141 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: mindset that you know, you got to get back up 1142 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 4: and just continue to fight for that. I think that's 1143 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 4: the biggest thing. And you know, having him coach me 1144 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 4: this entire way, you know, coach me as a quarterback, 1145 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 4: coach me as a tight end. Now he's you know, 1146 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 4: helped me as an offensive lineman in the NFL. Just 1147 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 4: having that experience of going through you know, when I 1148 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 4: was in college, he'd went through it. Now as my 1149 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 4: rookie year, transitioning from college to rookie year, and he 1150 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 4: has all that knowledge of going through at firsthand and 1151 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 4: being able to go and ask him, you know, call 1152 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 4: him after a training Campra's. 1153 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 3: Like, hey, Dad, did they didn't go great? Like what 1154 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 3: do you think? 1155 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 4: And you know, being able to have him, you know, 1156 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 4: talk through his experiences and being able to for me, 1157 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 4: being able to compare him to mine and just know 1158 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 4: that he's been through it, he's given the best advice 1159 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 4: and the advice that he has had firsthand has been 1160 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 4: huge for me and allowing me just to continue to 1161 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 4: build confidence, you know, and trust in what I'm doing 1162 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 4: you should never do all. 1163 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: Right, last thing for you, Joe, because big game this weekend. 1164 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: People may be watching this after it's already completed. Notre 1165 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: Dame Army at Yankee Stadium. So you can answer this 1166 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: however you want. But the most interesting thing to me 1167 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: is how much would you hear the defensive lineman when 1168 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: you played the service academies come to the sideline and 1169 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: be like those best there's cut me, they keep cutting me. 1170 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 4: It was I'm not gonna say that. I'm not I 1171 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 4: want to I want to keep everything I did hear. 1172 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 4: Some The worst part was actually probably in practice because 1173 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 4: we had to, like you can't go into the game 1174 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: like be getting cut for the first time, so you 1175 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 4: had to like as simulate a little bit. And guys 1176 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 4: were like, why are we getting cut in practice? Because 1177 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna get cut probably forty fifty times this game, yeah, 1178 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 4: maybe even more. 1179 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: So. 1180 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 4: You know, it's always a tough one for the d 1181 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 4: line and it was always a you know, a big 1182 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: pressure on us as an offense because these teams hold 1183 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: the ball for long time on these drives, getting you know, 1184 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 4: three yards in a cloud of dust. So it's like 1185 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 4: as an offense, we got to be efficient, we got 1186 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 4: to score and get the opportunity, and we really can't 1187 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 4: go three and now because our defense is gonna be 1188 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 4: tired at times. So it was always a big stress 1189 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,479 Speaker 4: on both of the offense and defense. But they're always 1190 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 4: such a fun game and you know, always rooting for 1191 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 4: my Irish to go out there and get the one 1192 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 4: on Saturday. 1193 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: There we go. We'll rooting for you on Monday. We 1194 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Congratulations on the early success. 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Visit on location 1208 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 5: exp dot com, backslash sblix or call eight seven seven 1209 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 5: three seven three five zero six two to secure your 1210 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 5: ticket packages today. 1211 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know they want stats, julil So, I don't 1212 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: know where he'll end up in the Rookie of the 1213 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: Year voting because you got obviously a couple quarterbacks. Bo 1214 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Nix is now in the conversation. Maybe he's the favorite 1215 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: ahead of Jayden Daniels or Caleb Williams or one of 1216 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks that's going to be in that conversation. But 1217 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: and Marvin Harrison Junior, all the receivers, you can we 1218 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: can start it, man, We can start making the case 1219 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: if his jenues, if Herbert ends up working his way 1220 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: really deep into this MVP conversation and you're talking about 1221 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: clean pockets and stuff, I think we can we can 1222 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: start waving the banner for Joe All to get some 1223 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year conversation. 1224 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: It has there ever been a left tackle Rookie of 1225 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 2: the Year, No, but there probably hasn't been a left 1226 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 2: tackle that played as well as Joe in his rookie year. 1227 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,439 Speaker 1: Exactly right, it's it's been impressive. I mean Joe having 1228 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: and I think you know you mentioned the left tackle 1229 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: Slater having him on the left side to help Joe 1230 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: out moving from the left to the right side, Like, 1231 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you can. You can't quantify it, you 1232 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: can qualify it, I think you know. I'm sure you 1233 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: can speak to it, like having a mentor someone that 1234 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: plays at the level Rashaun who is probably one of 1235 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: the three best tackles in the league. To be able 1236 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: to walk into that certainly is a benefit, and I'm 1237 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,879 Speaker 1: sure you know is one of the reasons why he's 1238 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: playing so well. 1239 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: Obviously, don want to take away what Joe does just naturally, right, Obviously, 1240 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 2: he's a top five pick for a reason. He does 1241 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: his thing. But when I came in the league, the 1242 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 2: guy for me was Eric Weddle. I came in undrafted 1243 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 2: and I didn't know how to be a pro. I 1244 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: didn't know how to take care of my body. I 1245 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 2: didn't know how to watch film. And as a rookie 1246 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 2: you come in almost with a lot going on, people 1247 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,840 Speaker 2: pulling from you from the outside. You know your agent, 1248 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: your marketing team, this, that, and then you try to 1249 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: come in and you try to find you a veteran. 1250 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 2: So the fact that I was able to come in 1251 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 2: and find me a veteran in Eric Weddle, who was 1252 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 2: an all pro pro bowler, just got paid, all world guy, 1253 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 2: right class guy, good leader, Joe gets to come into 1254 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 2: the same situation with Slater, and I can't fathom that 1255 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: that's not one of the reasons why he's playing so well. Obviously, 1256 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: he has all the physical traits, he's smart, he's physical, 1257 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 2: he's athletic. But when you have a guy that has 1258 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 2: done it at a high level, when you come in 1259 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 2: as a young guy, as a rookie me speaking from experience, 1260 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: you get to find almost kind of just pull on 1261 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 2: or follow their coattail and let them show you and 1262 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 2: lead the way. And obviously you take things that you 1263 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 2: like that they do, and you have things that you 1264 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 2: feel like works better for you. But you you're able 1265 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 2: to look at their pieces of puzzle and take a 1266 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 2: piece from it and add it to your game. So obviously, 1267 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 2: man Slater being here and being the type of tackle 1268 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 2: that he is has really really benefited Joel. 1269 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: Well, they're going to have to do it against a 1270 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: Baltimore defense that's giving up. It's weird because when I 1271 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: go back and watch it, I look at that front 1272 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, this thing is. 1273 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 2: Nasty, nasty. 1274 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: Not a bk is nasty a way, uh the linebackers 1275 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: and and ro Kwan and Simpson like. But then you 1276 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 1: look and it's just there's there's busted plays. 1277 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 2: The secondary money, right, that's what it is. 1278 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphreys like he's one of the best of the league. 1279 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: He is, but he doesn't play all four five other positions. 1280 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton one of the best safeties in the league. 1281 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: That's the that's the exact point. So you can't have 1282 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: you can't have that. 1283 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Hamilton is one of the best safeties in 1284 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: the league. Humphrey has done it for a long time. 1285 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 2: Takes the ball away at a high rate. But there's 1286 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 2: there's holes in the secondary. We obviously seen Jamar Chase 1287 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 2: the week before expose them for two hundred and forty yards. 1288 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: I can go deep on him, and Herbert has been 1289 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: throwing deep. 1290 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 2: Herbert likes deep, man, he likes to show off that arm. 1291 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: And I don't think that there's no reason why they 1292 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 2: don't test that secondary early and often. 1293 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, the I want to start with the fly now 1294 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: I went there just quickly, but I want to start 1295 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: with the flip side because you kind of get into 1296 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: two numbers. We're ten eleven eleven games in for the 1297 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: Ravens at this point, and you know, there's there's things 1298 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: you can lean on. I assume it's stuff that you 1299 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: guys would talk about in your positional meetings or in 1300 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: your you know, your defensive meetings. But Lamar has been 1301 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,359 Speaker 1: really good against the blitz. Lamar has been really good 1302 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: against zone. Should say he's been he's like that. But 1303 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: this is what's weird, right, So, like last week Pittsburgh 1304 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: blitz is a ton which they don't normally, and they 1305 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 1: play a lot of man Chargers are playing a ton 1306 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: of quarters. They're they're having six man boxes. It's like 1307 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 1: one of the highest light box rates in the league. 1308 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: They don't blit. It's the lowest blitz rate and it's 1309 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: the most productive pressure rate on the lowest blitz rate 1310 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,959 Speaker 1: if you can follow along with that in the league. 1311 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: So since do you change do you come in and say, hey, 1312 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: he's kind of eating the middle of the field, he's 1313 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: feasting on zone a little bit. He's struggling with man. 1314 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: Is that or no? You just do what you do 1315 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,879 Speaker 1: and that makes more sense, Like how do you approach that? 1316 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 2: I think you come out with the too high safety 1317 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: and you said, you know what, We've been able to 1318 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 2: get home with four all season long, and I don't 1319 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 2: think there's any reason why we shouldn't be able to 1320 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 2: do it this week. Now. With that being said, you 1321 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: may have to pressure five just every so often to 1322 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 2: mix it up with Lamar because that guy dances around 1323 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 2: the pocket. I've played him three four times, man, and 1324 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 2: he's one of the hardest guys to sack. It's one 1325 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: of the hardest guys to prepare for because you can't 1326 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: get the speed, athleticism and then playmaking ability on scout team. 1327 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: Like you almost have to put grab a receiver from 1328 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 2: scout team and be like, hey, you know what, just 1329 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: for this period, we're running RPO, we're running zone read, 1330 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 2: and you're gonna immolate and you're going to try to 1331 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: do exactly what Lamar does and that receiver still won't 1332 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: be able to show you what it's gonna feel like 1333 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 2: look like on Sundays. So I think what Jesse does 1334 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 2: is he comes out, he plays his two man look 1335 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 2: too sorry, his two safety look light box. See if 1336 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: you could defend the run. Obviously, Derrick Henry's a monster, 1337 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 2: another guy in the MVP race, right, So if it 1338 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 2: does not work, then you make adjustments. But I don't 1339 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,720 Speaker 2: think you come out and just all of a sudden 1340 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: change up everything that you've been doing all season long. 1341 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 2: And when you do blitz and the Charges do a 1342 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 2: really good job of not having man demand eyes. They 1343 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 2: have quarterback zone eyes, so you can get opportunities to 1344 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 2: make interceptions. Although Lamar has been throwing the ball and 1345 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 2: fitting that ball into tight windows all season long. Man, 1346 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 2: he's playing, he's playing observed right now. 1347 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: I think he's got what like twenty one tds to 1348 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: like four picks like he's but as has been the 1349 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: case his whole career, he likes the middle of the 1350 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: field like he is not as accurate throwing outside. He 1351 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: doesn't like really throwing outside. So what's the key there? 1352 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 1: How do you if you're playing in a too high shell, 1353 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: how are you taking away the middle of the field. 1354 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's basically if you're playing two high shell. You 1355 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 2: either playing Cover four right quarter, or you're playing Cover 1356 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 2: six quarter quarter halves maybe cloud and a receiver that 1357 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 2: you think may be a threat, or you're playing Cover 1358 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 2: two right and all those coverages have guys in the 1359 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: middle of the field. So the main thing about that 1360 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,719 Speaker 2: is this week working your past drops is Hey, look, 1361 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna work our past drops. We're gonna get depth, 1362 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna make sure we're not dropping outside of the hashes. 1363 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 2: He likes everything between the numbers and the hashes. So 1364 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 2: let's almost put markers here. And I don't want my linebackers, 1365 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't want my nickels, I don't want my safeties 1366 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 2: who are dropping underneath just for practice. I don't want 1367 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: you dropping outside of these landmarks. We're gonna give you landmarks. 1368 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 2: And this is where we want you. Ten to twelve 1369 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 2: yards two yards outside the numbers. That's where he likes 1370 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 2: his digs, you know, ten to twelve yards inside the numbers. 1371 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 2: That's where he likes his little sit down routes. So 1372 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 2: this is where we want you guys to feel and 1373 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 2: almost to know, this is where he's going with it. 1374 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 2: We'll take the outside passes, we'll take the outside shots. 1375 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 2: He has to show it to us for four quarters 1376 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: that he can continue to do it and beat us. 1377 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: What's the way to do that too, is death. Make 1378 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: sure you're getting death. But if you get death, now 1379 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,040 Speaker 1: you're opening that door for Dereck Henry. So what's the like, 1380 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: what's the it's fun to kind of you know, that's 1381 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: why it's called chess. So you're playing box safety or 1382 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 1: these linebackers are playing. You're telling them, hey, man, I 1383 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: need you to get deep, a little bit deeper, make 1384 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: those throws a little more uncomfort from but you've got yeah. 1385 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: But it's also as a player and as a defensive coordinator, 1386 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 2: you got to understand, Okay, what's the scenario. Is it 1387 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 2: first and ten or is it second and twelve or 1388 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 2: is it second and six? Right, So first and ten, 1389 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 2: we're saying, hey, look, we might show too high. We 1390 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 2: might show a too high look where they think we're 1391 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 2: gonna give what we've shown on film all day and 1392 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: at the snap we want during we want you to 1393 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 2: rotate into the box of created eight man box linebackers 1394 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 2: bump right. So now we're defending the past and we're 1395 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 2: defending the run. Now, second down, third down, Now, we 1396 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 2: can get a little more cute and do a little 1397 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 2: bit different stunts with our line. We can play a 1398 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 2: little bit more softer zones. But it's all about the scenario. 1399 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 2: It's all about the down, the distance, the time. So 1400 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,919 Speaker 2: you can't really pinpoint right now money sitting here and saying, hey, look, 1401 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 2: you're gonna do this. It all predicates on what's going 1402 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 2: on in the game at the time. 1403 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: You understand so absolutely, and it's gonna be a hell 1404 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: of a challenge. I mean, lying, Derek Henry is in 1405 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 1: the conversation for MVP. Lamar's arguably the front runner for MVP. 1406 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: I know they have the four losses and that's a 1407 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: bit of a concern, but he's playing along with you know, 1408 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,280 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert, some of the best quarterback 1409 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: in the league. So you know what that challenge is 1410 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: going to be. You always hear, oh, take away what 1411 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: they do best? What do they do best? Like, if 1412 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: you're going in, what is the first thing you want 1413 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: to take away? 1414 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: The first thing I'm taking away is the run. You 1415 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 2: got Lamar Jackson, you got Derrick Henry. It was bad 1416 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 2: enough trying to play Lamar Jackson to stop the room 1417 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: with just him. Now you have Lamar, excuse me, now 1418 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 2: you have Derick Henry. And the thing about playing Derrick 1419 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: Henry in my career, our coach will always say, listen, 1420 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 2: if you get him before those wills start turning at 1421 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, he's in it. From experience, he's 1422 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 2: not as hard to tackle. It's when he gets to 1423 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: that second level and that third level and that two 1424 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five pounds are running and running and 1425 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 2: turning and he has the momentum. Is when he's hard 1426 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,439 Speaker 2: to bring down, and that's when you see him bust 1427 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 2: his long runs. So if I'm the Chargers, I come out, 1428 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: I show too high, but then I move on the 1429 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 2: snap and I bring an extra safety in the box. 1430 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: I bump the linebackers. Now we're giving the offensive line 1431 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: different look that they've seen pre snap, and now they 1432 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 2: maybe miss a guy, maybe they overreach, and then we 1433 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 2: get We allow our line, our defensive line to penetrate 1434 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 2: and our linebackers run downhill. If you take away the 1435 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 2: run against the Ravens and now the one dimensional Yes, 1436 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has thrown the ball a lot better than 1437 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 2: when he's coming to the league. But I'll take my 1438 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 2: I'll take my chances with him throwing the ball all 1439 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 2: day long then not being able to stop the run 1440 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: with him Derrick Henry, and now you can't stop anything 1441 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 2: because now the pass is there, the run is there, 1442 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: and the playbook is at their disposal. 1443 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the key and look this is this 1444 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: has been the report on on the Ravens there since 1445 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: Lamar has been the quarterback. Jump them early. You know, 1446 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: if you force them out of a lot of that 1447 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: those runs, you know that they want that where they 1448 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,960 Speaker 1: can dictate terms they're running. If you can force them 1449 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: out of that into a their down two scores in 1450 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: the second half, This doesn't look like Joe Burrow. This 1451 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: is not Joe Burrow, Jamar Chason T. Higgins. 1452 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: It's a different off threat. 1453 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, where they can hit you on a seventy second 1454 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: drive for sixty yards in a touchdown. It just doesn't 1455 00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: work that way. 1456 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 2: And I got respect for Lamar as a pocket passer, 1457 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 2: and I think he's developed and has worked his game 1458 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 2: to be one of the better pocket passers in the 1459 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 2: league right now, But his receiver has had troubles with drops. 1460 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 2: His biggest target right now would have to be the 1461 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: tight end and Mark andrewsah right, So you're gonna say 1462 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 2: coming into this game, look, we're gonna make these guys 1463 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,919 Speaker 2: show us that they can beat us in the air, 1464 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 2: and we're gonna take away what you guys do best. 1465 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 2: And you hear it all all the time. Money. It 1466 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 2: sounds cliche, but what they do best is run that ball. 1467 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: And then when they run the ball, well, now your 1468 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 2: defense is off killed, and then that allows them a 1469 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 2: to get play action deep balls and now their offense 1470 00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: is just rolling at a high rate. 1471 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: You are you still playing a ton of nickel and dime, 1472 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: because we've seen this team plays more dime than a 1473 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: lot of teams in the league with Derwin at that dimeback, 1474 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: or do you think this is more of a nickel 1475 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: DP and Henley are out there the whole time. 1476 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 2: Once again, DP and Henley out there first and second down, right, 1477 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,439 Speaker 2: you go dime, you go dime, You go nickel maybe 1478 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 2: second down, depending on the down and distance. Once again, 1479 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 2: and then you go dim in the third down. But 1480 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you just live in dime right now. 1481 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 2: They have shown where they played during They played the 1482 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 2: big nickel package with Duran at Nickel right right, and 1483 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 2: then they bring in other safety at the top, Molin. 1484 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's tough to say right now. It's 1485 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 2: tough to say right now, but you got to really 1486 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: see how this game goes on. It's going to be 1487 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: an exciting one to see. 1488 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 3: Man. 1489 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. The one thing too, I think that's important to 1490 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: point out is when you look at the overall numbers 1491 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: and the points allowed and stuff, like you said, they're 1492 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: giving up big plays downfield, but this front's really good, 1493 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: especially on the interior when like you look at Matta 1494 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Bk and I was trying to remember, I wanted to 1495 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: get the exact size of Travis Jones when you're talking 1496 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: about six foot four, three hundred and forty pounds on 1497 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 1: the way that guy moves, like, that's a lot for 1498 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: you know what. The edges have been great, Alton Slater inside, 1499 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's getting it's gotten a lot better, 1500 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: especially that Tennessee game. I think Herbert only had two 1501 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 1: pressures and you know. 1502 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 2: And we talked about that Tennessee game, how how dominant 1503 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 2: they were in the interior. 1504 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, exactly. So with with with dev Andre and 1505 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 1: and Simmons and they again two pressures, no sacks. So 1506 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 1: when you look at kind of the plan and what 1507 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: coach Harball likes to do, the other Harball, John Harball, 1508 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 1: what they like to do up front, kind of your 1509 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,160 Speaker 1: thoughts on the old line and what the challenges may 1510 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: be with Matta b kN van Noy who's playing great 1511 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: football as well, and I mentioned some of the names. 1512 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: O way, like this is a really good front that 1513 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to contend with. 1514 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I just mentioned Money. We talked about Tennessee 1515 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 2: going into the Tennessee game, how good their front was 1516 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 2: and probably had the best front interior on the defensive line, 1517 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 2: and the Chargers handled business. I think, look the confidence 1518 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 2: that Jim Harball has in his team, the confidence that 1519 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 2: he has in his offense, his offensive line, and just 1520 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 2: his units. All three phases. You run at him, You 1521 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 2: run at him inside zone, outside zone. You give him 1522 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,479 Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. You give him play action, 1523 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 2: you mix the playbook around, you give jet sweeps, you 1524 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: get it's Monday night football. You know the atmosphere is 1525 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 2: going to be intense, it's going to be a really 1526 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: good game. But the fact that the Ravens interior defensive 1527 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 2: line is really good. I don't think you shy away 1528 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 2: from it, right if there's a bully to do it. 1529 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 2: How do you stop a bully from bullying you, You 1530 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 2: punch them back, right exactly. So I think that's what 1531 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 2: they do. 1532 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll tell you I think it was power. 1533 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 1: They ran right for the game winner. I want to say, yeah, 1534 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: it was power, down, down and around. Basically run, run 1535 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: some more power with Jak and get him back out there. 1536 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Some Gus Edwards who had a really good first half 1537 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 1: as well. It's gonna be a great one, gonna be 1538 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 1: darn exciting. We've mentioned it. Herbert's great in primetime. Lamar 1539 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Jackson is great in primetime. Jim Harbaugh is zero and 1540 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: two against his of course, one of those losses being 1541 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to be lost by three points, the 1542 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: lights out super Bowl between the forty nine ers and 1543 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens. And it's Thanksgiving a week. It's a time 1544 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: for family. I mean, you could not at the NFL 1545 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: just talk about stepping in it. Yeah, this was an 1546 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,600 Speaker 1: easy one, so very much looking forward to it. Just 1547 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: final thoughts, what you think this looks like it's. 1548 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Going to be a barn burner. Man, it's going to 1549 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 2: be exciting. It's gonna be a lot of bells, and 1550 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of whists. It's gonna be 1551 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 2: a lot of fireworks and so fine. In Los Angeles. 1552 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 2: What better place to you know, have this game you 1553 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 2: just mentioned it. Brothers playing family atmosphere Thanksgiving weekend, Lamar Jackson, 1554 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Verus Herbert. That's gonna be the store, right, It's gonna 1555 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 2: be the headline. It's gonna be the store. Which one 1556 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 2: of them to prevail? Both of them MVP conversations. Both 1557 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: of them have a really good supporting cast on offense, defense, 1558 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 2: and special teams. I think the Chargers walk away with 1559 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 2: this one by playing stingy defense, getting home with Lamar 1560 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 2: with four man pressure, taking away the looks at he 1561 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 2: wants moving post snap, and then on offense, justin Herbert 1562 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 2: and the offense getting the run game going, getting the 1563 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 2: run game going, You're gonna see Ladd and those guys 1564 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 2: stretch down field and make plays happen for him. 1565 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think i'd like, you know, if I could 1566 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: draw it up, if I had my Thanksgiving wish, I'd 1567 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: love to see Herbert play the role for the national 1568 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: audience of Lamar Jackson. Last week, he accounted for eighty 1569 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: three percent of the Chargers offense. He was the leading 1570 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: rusher and obviously through for almost three hundred yards of 1571 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: their I think it was four hundred thirty five yards. 1572 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,439 Speaker 1: He accounted for like three hundred and sixty seven of them. 1573 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 1: So Monster, do it again. You know, use those legs, run. 1574 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 2: Use those legs exactly. 1575 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Continue to use the legs, rip off some big runs, 1576 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: keep them on their heels. It's really been the difference 1577 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: in the way this offense is been operating lately, just 1578 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: the thread of him running. So I'd love to see 1579 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 1: sort of that play out. And as you said, I 1580 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: feel like it's gonna be a big I feel like 1581 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an offensive game. I just do you 1582 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: know it's. 1583 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 2: Just as gonna be fireworks. Yeah, and you know how 1584 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 2: the NFL does exactly. 1585 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're looking forward to it. We appreciate 1586 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: all of you for watching, commenting, rating, passing along what 1587 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: we're doing. We're in the Bolt, we've got our new studios. 1588 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: A big thank you to Joel for joining us as well, 1589 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: and we'll be back again next week. 1590 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Julie, Appreciate your money.