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Speaker 1: played the day, stat of the day, All to that forthcoming.

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Speaker 1: The countdown is on the final week of mclovin. Thursday

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Speaker 1: will be his last show. Let's wait until Thursday if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to call in and say goodbye to mclovin.

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Speaker 1: No need to drag this out, and you can stay

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Speaker 1: on hold if you want to until Thursday. Marvin will

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Speaker 1: take those phone calls and just leave you on hold.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to say goodbye to mclovin on Thursday. Yes, mclovin,

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Speaker 1: I have a friend who's tried to call in and

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Speaker 1: said Marvin shut him down. Wait a minute. First of all,

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Speaker 1: you said you had a friend associate. Okay, and you're

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Speaker 1: accusing Marvin. Yeah, Eddy did it very politely though. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my friend Sully. But but did Sully say that he

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Speaker 1: wanted to say something nice about you? And then Marvin

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Speaker 1: said no, not today. Basically in so many words, that's

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Speaker 1: communicated with Sully before, and I wouldn't let him on

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Speaker 1: the air either. Okay, yes, boy, tell Sully to tell

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Speaker 1: Marvin that I got something bad to say about Todd.

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Speaker 1: He'll go to the top of the list. That's all, Marvin.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I MC club, it's all. The's a

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Speaker 1: guy who came up to you in France. He wanted

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Speaker 1: to call to talk about that. Now, do you remember

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Speaker 1: he came up to you? He said, I listen to

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Speaker 1: the show all the time. I loved your segment with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf. You are in the graveyard. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate Sully. Just letting you know he's a

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Speaker 1: number one fan of the show. I mean, he's okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm on vacation. I'm I'm at the cemetery, you know,

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Speaker 1: for you know, all of the military men who died

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Speaker 1: in France. So they're doing taps. It's five o'clock and

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Speaker 1: they're lowering the flag. I'm crying. It's emotional. I got

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Speaker 1: some guy walks up and goes, he goes, hey, get

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Speaker 1: a picture when this is done. You're kidding. No, No,

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Speaker 1: they are playing to I have the video. I'm videotaping

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Speaker 1: them taking down the American flag at the cemetery. Damn,

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Speaker 1: real quick, what do you think of Kirk Cousins? Is

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Speaker 1: that the answer? Minnesota? Yeah, so I'm you know there,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a beautiful, beautiful moment. What was And uh?

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Speaker 1: I got this guy behind me and then I said

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Speaker 1: not now like no, No, I gotta ask you. It's Frits.

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Speaker 1: You really like that? Just a quick question. Yeah, So Sully, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't want Sully, Marvin, don't have Sully call in.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed to. He Sully is bar You have

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Speaker 1: to let him. He's literally the number one fan of

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Speaker 1: this show. They were playing tops, that's how big a

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Speaker 1: fan they were bringing our flag down, Dan. One thing,

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Speaker 1: my calendar had two februaries and it you get that adjusted. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not big on Sully. I'm I'm sullied

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Speaker 1: on Sully. After the ceremony, can you sign my calendar?

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Speaker 1: I actually brought it the france of my carry on bag.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we won the war? Else you want? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, damn? What happened to Christian Syracuse? Did he

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Speaker 1: still talk to him? And then my wife goes what

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Speaker 1: hundred people surrounding this flagpole at the cemetery. You're not

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Speaker 1: making this. I swear to God, Paulia, I have the

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Speaker 1: be able to hear Sully go, hey, can I get

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Speaker 1: a picture? As I'm videotaping this? They're bringing our flag

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Speaker 1: get a ding? First time? Long time? Yeah, mclovin Sully,

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Speaker 1: at least let him explain his thinking at the cemetery. Okay,

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Speaker 1: playing taps and bringing down our flag at this cemetery,

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Speaker 1: this pristine cemetery in France, those who were there on

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Speaker 1: D Day, those who were there gave their lives. It's

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Speaker 1: Sally can't do it. Today He's sitting outside Jim Rome's

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Speaker 1: welcome eight seven seven three d P show him email

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Speaker 1: program nearly four hundred cities around America and Peacock our

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Speaker 1: streaming partner. I'm discombobulator. You threw me off my game, McLeman,

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Speaker 1: dislike Selly. Yeah, I feel like Tom Brady last night Lost.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be in the middle of a really dramatic

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Speaker 1: take and I'd be like, Dad, did you want to polars?

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Speaker 1: All right? Now? Raiders, Browns today, Vikings, Bears tonight Tuesday, Seahawks, Rams, Washington,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles. NBA players are out due to COVID

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Speaker 1: their signing replacement players. It's like the NBA is out.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was wondering about this with the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know, the NFL got the most out of this

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Speaker 1: football weekend that they probably could give. Then the COVID breakouts,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need a couple more days to get through

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Speaker 1: the week fifteen schedules. I mentioned it's Raiders, Browns this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: That's at five o'clock. Washington football team in the Eagles, Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and Rams. That's Tuesday. But you know, when the games start,

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Speaker 1: there's normalcy. And I know it's a bit of an illusion,

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Speaker 1: but you did see some critical wins by you know,

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Speaker 1: potential playoff teams Steelers, Bengals, Niners, Colds, Dolphins kept their

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Speaker 1: postseason live. You got twenty eight teams who still have

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Speaker 1: a mathematical chance to make the playoffs. As the NFL

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Speaker 1: might say, that's great for business. The Packers beat the

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Speaker 1: Ravens in a thriller. They're looking for that number one

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Speaker 1: seat in the NFC. Certainly helped that Arizona lost, and

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Speaker 1: of course the Buccaneers did. The Lions beating the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: sat shutting out the Buccaneers pick one, which was more surprising.

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Speaker 1: I would say, the Saints shutting out the Bucks and

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Speaker 1: doing it in Tampa, whereas the Lions beating the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and I know the Cardinals keep saying, hey, we're not

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals of last year where we basically fell apart

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. Bubb, We'll see, but get ready for

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Speaker 1: afternoon football. I was wondering, as controversial as this would sound,

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Speaker 1: regular season. If they truly care about getting everybody healthy

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Speaker 1: for the postseason, how about you take away week seventeen

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Speaker 1: and then you could still have your Super Bowl when

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Speaker 1: you're going to have it in the playoffs. But I

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Speaker 1: be hard to field teams that actually look like NFL

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Speaker 1: teams and quarterbacks and who's going to play and who can't?

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Speaker 1: You know, the NFL is remember the NFL said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're not forfeiting games. Okay, but you're going to adjust

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Speaker 1: the schedule where you might accommodate the Washington football team

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Speaker 1: maybe more than you need to, and that will penalize

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, who then play. You know, you go from

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Speaker 1: Tuesday to Saturday. So that's not fair. Not fair to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. That Washington football team. They had one player

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Speaker 1: didn't get vaccinated and everybody you know, caught COVID from him.

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Speaker 1: So there's no punishment. Hey, we're just gonna move it. No,

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Speaker 1: no forfeiture. I have a problem with that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have to have teams held accountable. Not all right,

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Speaker 1: you guys want to play I don't know. Wednesday at

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Speaker 1: eight fifteen in the morning, Like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: You're trying to accommodate everybody. Is there a rule? Are

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Speaker 1: they going to enforce the rule? That's what I'd be

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Speaker 1: curious about. But i'd take away the last week of

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Speaker 1: the regular season. I know it's all about money and

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Speaker 1: they'll slap a team together to get out there. But

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Speaker 1: I think we're getting to that point where we're kind

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Speaker 1: of teetering on the brink. All right, phone calls are welcome. Mclovin.

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Speaker 1: What's the poll question today? Okay, we're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: a Tampa Bay Buccaneers pole. What would you bet on

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Speaker 1: if you had to bet on one of these? The

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Speaker 1: Bucks win the Super Bowl or the Bucks lose their

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Speaker 1: first playoff game? Wow? Which is more likely? U I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say that they win the Super Bowl is more likely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this just felt messy to start with.

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Speaker 1: Gronk had some drops. You had injuries to Evans and

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Speaker 1: Godwin and Fournette. The Saints have their number. They were

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Speaker 1: getting frustrated. Now, did I expect Brady to get shut out? No,

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Speaker 1: but they never got any kind of rhythm whatsoever. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the Saints were desperate team because that was

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Speaker 1: their season last night. But Tampa is going to bring

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Speaker 1: back Antonio Brown. You'll get healthier. You got three weeks

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Speaker 1: left to go. And I said this on Thursday or

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Speaker 1: Friday that all Tom Brady has to do is win

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Speaker 1: the MVP. Now, given how Aaron Rodgers played Jonathan Taylor played,

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Speaker 1: And then I put Rogers in there and Jonathan Taylor absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, You're not the coach of the year. If

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Speaker 1: who deserves consideration. It's gonna sound crazy. Dan Campbell aligned man,

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Speaker 1: that dude he is positive, he never stops. He you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear the passion that he really really cares, and

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Speaker 1: you juxtapose that to Urban Meyer, and urban Meyer came

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Speaker 1: in with status. Dan Campbell's never had status, never had

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Speaker 1: it as a player, never had it as a coach.

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Speaker 1: He was just a tough guy. But that's the guy

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Speaker 1: you want to play for, even though he hasn't proven

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Speaker 1: himself to be a good coach or great coach. You know,

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Speaker 1: Urban's one, But Dan Campbell's approach is that's what I

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Speaker 1: want to play for because it feels real. And as

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Speaker 1: far as Urban goes, Urban did an interview with Ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 1: talk to him about it because Urban seemed like he's

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Speaker 1: still shifting the blame here and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: this is a rehab tour for him. Is he going

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Speaker 1: to get paid? Jags owner Shod Khan says he's not

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Speaker 1: going to pay Urban Meyer. Okay, I'd like to know

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Speaker 1: what the cause is because if you say it's he

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Speaker 1: kicked one of our former players, Josh Lambo, that happened

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Speaker 1: in August, why didn't you fire him? Then if that

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Speaker 1: team has six wins right now? Is urban Meyer fired

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Speaker 1: for cause? So I'd like to know what cause we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, unless there's something that's hidden there where they

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Speaker 1: say we're not paying urban Meyer and urban Meyer goes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, they're not going to pay me. I get

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Speaker 1: the feeling that this story is not over with and

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Speaker 1: that you're probably going to have some kind of settlement there.

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Speaker 1: At least it feels that way. He said nice things

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Speaker 1: about Jacksonville, said nice things about Shod Khan, but then

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Speaker 1: you hear that Shod Khan doesn't want to pay urban Meyer.

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Speaker 1: But you know, urban talked really about the culture. You

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Speaker 1: know that basically everybody's soft. You know, coaches are soft

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Speaker 1: and players are soft, and not just in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you know, urban it's kind of living

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Speaker 1: in a different era. This is the way we used

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Speaker 1: before we get to Urban Meyer, I brought up something

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Speaker 1: in the first hour that I don't know if the

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Speaker 1: NFL would consider taking away the final regular season of

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Speaker 1: games to have everybody they have that opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: ready for the playoffs. Is there are there anything? Is

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Speaker 1: there anything drastic that's on the table here with COVID no.

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Speaker 1: I mean to me, it seems like what the drastic

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Speaker 1: things are over right, Like last week was pretty drastic,

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Speaker 1: and it was there was a lot of flashbacks from

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Speaker 1: last year, a lot of is this game going to

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Speaker 1: be rescheduled? What's it gonna mean? When are they going

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Speaker 1: to play? This, everyone's are on short rest, teams are unhappy.

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Speaker 1: COVID ruining everything like that felt like, you know that,

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Speaker 1: like Thursday, Friday. Last week felt like last year and

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Speaker 1: I had like hard complications. It was not fun because

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Speaker 1: last year sucked. But based on the way the NFL

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Speaker 1: has adjusted the COVID nineteen protocols based on the threshold

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Speaker 1: now where it's easier for guys to test out based

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Speaker 1: on the testing being more symptom based rather than just

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Speaker 1: testing every fully vaccinated asymptomatic person, it seems like these

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Speaker 1: will probably be the only postponements will have, So I

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Speaker 1: think the NFL is probably in a pretty decent spot.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't think it was fair to the Eagles

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Speaker 1: that the Washington football team didn't take care of business,

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Speaker 1: and now you're gonna put that on a Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna make the Eagles play on Saturday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hear you, But do we know that

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Speaker 1: the Washington football team didn't take care of business? Like

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Speaker 1: that's that's kind of my sort of my response. I

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Speaker 1: to be transmitting way faster than anyone imagined, And I

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Speaker 1: don't know that anyone did anything wrong, Like I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard that Washington didn't follow the protocols. I mean, remember

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Speaker 1: there for fully vaccined players, there are no mass in buildings.

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Speaker 1: It could literally be one guy going to see his

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Speaker 1: family or someone's wife or something testing positive bringing into

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Speaker 1: the facility and that's that. Like that's so, I don't

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Speaker 1: know they did anything wrong. I don't know that the

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Speaker 1: Browns did anything wrong. I think it's just COVID, and

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Speaker 1: COVID sucks. When did you get word that urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: wanted to or would allow to have You asked him questions?

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Speaker 1: So it was actually a little surreal, I have to say. So,

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Speaker 1: I you know, you always check in, you always call.

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Speaker 1: It's always worth it, right, So when I got the

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Speaker 1: feeling that things were going bad, um, I got the

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Speaker 1: feeling that he might get fired. I reached out, heard nothing,

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Speaker 1: and then I called on Friday morning, just doing my

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Speaker 1: due diligence. You never know, maybe he wants to talk.

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Speaker 1: So I call him nothing, no response. I texted him.

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Speaker 1: I said like, hey, I might be a long shot,

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Speaker 1: but I'd love to talk to you if you want

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Speaker 1: to talk. So he calls him back, and he says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm really disappointed. You know, it's frustrating

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Speaker 1: all of Jacksonville. And I kind of stop and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: can I interview it? Is this an interview? Because he

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Speaker 1: I'm like, can I interview you? And he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, what did you have in mind? I'm

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Speaker 1: like getting your feelings on getting fired? It was like

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Speaker 1: all right, And then I was like, can I record you?

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to screw up any of the quotes.

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Speaker 1: He's like that's fine. So then I have an app

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Speaker 1: on my phone which I haven't used in a while,

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Speaker 1: so I had to download it again while I'm on

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Speaker 1: the phone with him, while he's awkwardly waiting, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm really sorry. He's like it's okay. I'm walking on

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Speaker 1: the beach. I'm like, oh, that's nice. So then we

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Speaker 1: talked for twenty five minutes. I asked everything I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask. He commented on almost everything except the legal

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Speaker 1: situation with his contract, and then that was it. But

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Speaker 1: it was I mean, I cannot honestly say I was

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Speaker 1: expecting him to call him to him to call me back.

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Speaker 1: But here we were. Why was he fired? He actually

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Speaker 1: summed that up really well for me. So we're kind

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Speaker 1: of going through things. We're talking, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: you look, there's always a reason someone answers the phone

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Speaker 1: or someone calls back, right if there's I'm not you know,

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Speaker 1: holding him down and forcing him to talk to me.

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Speaker 1: There's clearly something he wanted to say. So it's some point.

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Speaker 1: He said, Look, here's the main point. We tried really

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Speaker 1: hard and we failed. And I was like, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is what it is. Because there are plenty of coaches

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Speaker 1: who treat people not great. They're player coaches or yellow players.

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Speaker 1: They're coaches who treat who are very hard in their assistance, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's a kind of a technique. We are really

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Speaker 1: hard in your assistant, so you don't have to be

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Speaker 1: hard on your players. Right. In the end, he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a good enough football coach because has he had he

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Speaker 1: been better, then we wouldn't be in this situation. All

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Speaker 1: the stuff would have been just kind of stuff. But

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Speaker 1: like he kind of stopped being an xs and OS

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Speaker 1: coach several years ago. He's more of a culture builder.

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Speaker 1: He's more of a CEO type coach. I don't think

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Speaker 1: in the end his assistant coaches didn't do a good

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Speaker 1: enough job. He didn't do a good enough job, and

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Speaker 1: then he got fired. But when you get fired for cause,

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Speaker 1: are you is the cause you're a bad coach? No,

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Speaker 1: although I'm not going to do anyway, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say what I was gonna say. No, he got fired

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Speaker 1: for cause because of several specific instances. There was the

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Speaker 1: incident with Josh Lambo, which he has denied. There's the

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Speaker 1: incident with a woman who was not his wife at

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Speaker 1: a bar in Columbus, which you can't deny was on video.

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Speaker 1: And then you know there were the other reports and

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Speaker 1: all that. But firing for cause is a legal move.

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Speaker 1: I guess you would say, I don't know, that's not

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Speaker 1: really the right word, but to not pay it, so

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Speaker 1: I would imagine they will go into negotiations now to

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Speaker 1: be less than he was originally scheduled to get paid.

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Speaker 1: But if you're wondering about the timing, which I think

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Speaker 1: everyone was wondering about. To me, the best way I

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Speaker 1: could sum it up was they knew they were going

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Speaker 1: to fire him. It was obviously he was gone at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season. So if you're going to

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Speaker 1: do that, just fire him now and then the stories stopped. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but with Lambeau, that's in August is you know whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it in a bar in Columbus, like,

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Speaker 1: those are those fireable offenses. And if it was that

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Speaker 1: bad in August, why not fire him? Then? If this

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Speaker 1: team has six wins ian Okay, is he fired? Probably not?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, because let's say they had six wins, that

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Speaker 1: would be an improvement. And let's say you had some

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Speaker 1: moments from Trevor Lawrence where like he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: kind of getting and being the guy you want him

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Speaker 1: to be. Probably not fired. To me, this is like

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Speaker 1: he wasn't. They did not think he was a good

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Speaker 1: enough football coach. He didn't win enough games, and then

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Speaker 1: there was all the other stuff. So it's like, let's

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Speaker 1: just do this now, we get the stories to stop.

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Speaker 1: Fire him for cause, and then you know, you almost

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Speaker 1: always in this situation you set on I mean even

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Speaker 1: John bruten settled, right, so with the Raiders, not with

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So I think that's kind of this situation

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Speaker 1: here is just do it now, make this bad stories

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Speaker 1: stop and start the process of replacing him. Gets feeling

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Speaker 1: Urban wants to coach again. I didn't get that feeling.

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Speaker 1: He said to me that, you know, he was kind

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Speaker 1: of going through it, and I could sort of see

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Speaker 1: his mind churning a little bit. He was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had the perfect life before this, and then Shod

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Speaker 1: recruited me and he meant so much to me, and

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Speaker 1: he really did up the perfect life. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: not all TV jobs are the same. Some of us

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Speaker 1: have to work every day, as you know, but he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He only worked on Saturdays, and he was on Fox,

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Speaker 1: and so like would I'd be surprised if he was

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Speaker 1: back on Fox talking about college football, Like I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprised. What is going to be interesting is, you know,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of great college football jobs filled

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Speaker 1: this year, but like, let's say next year one of

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Speaker 1: those really good jobs comes open. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's going to be tempted it is. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he ended up. I didn't think he thought he was

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Speaker 1: going to be tempted by the Jaguars, but he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I don't know and I talked to somebody at

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Speaker 1: Fox over the weekend and they're like, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: we would welcome him back. Yeah, I heard that too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious if like, it's hard to go out

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Speaker 1: this way. It's like a player doesn't want to go out,

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Speaker 1: you know, losing, you know, does he want to go

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Speaker 1: out with his reputation or legacy with this attached to it?

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Speaker 1: And that's what I always wonder if if he's and

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Speaker 1: he's not old, what is he fifty seven? He's just

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Speaker 1: been He's just been a great coach for so long,

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Speaker 1: you know. So it's like I'm a Mets fan. The

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Speaker 1: hired Buck Showalter, and I'm like, wow, he must be

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Speaker 1: like eighty, but he's but he's not. Yeah, he just

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Speaker 1: has done it. He was he was an older looking

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Speaker 1: coach for the Yankees, and he's like thirty five. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that question. I know

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Speaker 1: this didn't leave a great chaste in his mouth. And

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Speaker 1: I was surprised at how much he talked about just

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Speaker 1: failing like he was. It was a very matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes you sort of feel like during interviews,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been through this, you feel like you

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Speaker 1: sort of have to dance around some things like this

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Speaker 1: wasn't that at all. He was real upfront with getting

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Speaker 1: fired and not doing a good enough job. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wondered about that, but you know, what can you

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Speaker 1: say and how how usually you're going to know early

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Speaker 1: on in an interview and you're like, oh, okay, you

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Speaker 1: know we can go there, or I feel like I

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Speaker 1: got the green light here a little bit, and and

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Speaker 1: maybe he just wanted to explain and get it off,

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Speaker 1: you know, he wanted people to hear his side. And

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Speaker 1: I wonder about the Josh Lambo's story though, in because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's one of those where you know,

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Speaker 1: you kick him, but you're not really You're just hey,

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Speaker 1: come on, I'll make go out there and make some

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Speaker 1: damn kicks or whatever. I don't did he explain his

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Speaker 1: side of that? You know, did he kick the kicker?

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Speaker 1: He denied it. You know, the more I the more

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Speaker 1: I delve into the situation, and I think what he

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Speaker 1: denied the specific way that Josh Lambeau illustrated it in

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Speaker 1: the in the Tampa newspaper Tampa Bay Times, right in

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Times. You know, I have no doubt

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Speaker 1: that he came over and called him something, especially because

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Speaker 1: I think at that point and this is like, I

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Speaker 1: still honestly think he's trying to learn who everybody was,

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Speaker 1: So like, did he have a nickname for the kicker? Like? Probably,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's just the way he's always been. So like,

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Speaker 1: did he come over tap him on the butt with

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Speaker 1: his shoe and say, like, come on whatever, like make

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Speaker 1: some kicks? Probably did, Probably trying to build a little rapport.

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Speaker 1: Clearly did not work. Clearly Lambo was you know, didn't

636
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Speaker 1: was not feeling it, you know, And I think maybe

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Speaker 1: not everybody likes to be called names like that. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just this is not I'm not I'm not explaining

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Speaker 1: it away. This is not that. I'm just saying logistically,

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00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: if you kick a player and it's during stretching and

641
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: there's media there and there's fans there and everyone is

642
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: watching and other players, I just am there'll be some

643
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: large reaction than everyone finding out. A couple of months later,

644
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: talking to you and Ravenport and a national insider for

645
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Speaker 1: the NFL Network, any further updates under Shaun Watson. Now

646
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: he is lanquishing on the active roster. He is an

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Speaker 1: active the next legal checkpoint, I believe his depositions, which

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00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: should be in February or March unless the cases get settled.

649
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Speaker 1: And you know, he was not traded to the Dolphins

650
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Speaker 1: because he was not able to settle his twenty plus

651
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Speaker 1: cases in the off season. You know, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: he gets traded. I don't know the timing of it,

653
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Speaker 1: but there's going to be more. The whole off season

654
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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot of quarterbacks. Like last

655
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Speaker 1: off season was. This is going to be the off

656
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Speaker 1: season I think we were supposed to have because we

657
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Speaker 1: could have several big time guys on the move. I

658
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Speaker 1: think he does get on the move and a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so many teams, so many teams need quarterbacks

660
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Speaker 1: in a draft where you're gonna get some, but you're

661
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Speaker 1: not going to get all the answers. Is Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: playing today? He is not. No. I think Baker Mayfield

663
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Speaker 1: thought he was going to play. He posted on the

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Speaker 1: old Instagram that he thought he was going to play

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Speaker 1: a couple of minutes ago. I think actually right before

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Speaker 1: we started, they announced their final transactions before the game.

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Speaker 1: John Johnson, the safety, comes off the list, so he's

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Speaker 1: playing but Baker, no, case, Keenum no, so a lot

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Speaker 1: of Nick Mollens, who the last time we saw him

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Speaker 1: on a national stage was balling out. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: he can resurrect his career today. Look at you selling

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Speaker 1: it great. It is exclusive on NFL network. Now, Is

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Speaker 1: that the reason I'm selling Nick molls No, it's like

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Speaker 1: it is, and it's exclusively on the NFL Network at

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Speaker 1: five easter. Great job, Ian, Thank you appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks thanks for having so. Ian Rappaport, National

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Speaker 1: insider for the NFL Network and NFL dot Com. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon

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686
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Speaker 1: quarterback of course Heisman Trophy winner at USC Carson Palmer

687
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Speaker 1: joining us on the program. Carson, I want you to

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Speaker 1: listen to Bill Belichick this morning and tell me if

689
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Speaker 1: this sounds like the Bill Belichick that you know, look, falls,

690
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Speaker 1: I apologize. You know, I seemed like I was a

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Speaker 1: little short with you after the game. You know, obviously

692
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: a frustrating game down twenty to nothing, didn't do anything

693
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Speaker 1: well enough. I mean, there isn't only much to say

694
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Speaker 1: at that point without watching the film. Clearly we had

695
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: problems in every area, so you know, there's no simple answer,

696
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: and you know, every play could have been better, every

697
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: area of coaching could have could have been better, every

698
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: area plane could have been better, and any of that

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Speaker 1: would have helped. So Carson, who is that guy? That's

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Speaker 1: Steve Belichick? Isn't that his son apologizing to the media.

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Speaker 1: Bill doesn't apologize in the media. He doesn't even acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the media most of the time. I can't believe I've

703
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Speaker 1: just heard that. Yeah, I don't know what happened, Like,

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Speaker 1: of all the times when he's disrespectful to the media,

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Speaker 1: whatever happened when they lost to the Colts that made

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Speaker 1: him like the oh, you know, I got to apologize

707
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Speaker 1: to the media. Well, it is the first time he's

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Speaker 1: lost to the Colts in a solid two or three decades,

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Speaker 1: So maybe just something came over him, and some some

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Speaker 1: emotions came over him that he just wasn't quite sure

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Speaker 1: how to handle him, how to let out. Did you

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Speaker 1: see Brady during the game last night? Go over to

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Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, who was filling in for Sean Payton, and

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Speaker 1: he basically says, bleep you, like he has an exchange

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Speaker 1: with you. How often does that happen? It's only happened

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Speaker 1: a handful of times. The New York Giants got a

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Speaker 1: certain level of frustration out of Brady a couple different

718
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Speaker 1: times of Super Bowls and last night. I mean, they

719
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Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball unless they were throwing little, tiny

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Speaker 1: short passes, and obviously with all the injuries they had

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Speaker 1: outside with their receiving corps. But I mean, you saw

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Speaker 1: it a little bit last year in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with Tyrn Matthew when he got frustrated with Tyrant down

724
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Speaker 1: on the red zone. He saw it last night. I mean,

725
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Speaker 1: they put up zero points against a very average to

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Speaker 1: below average team in New Orleans. I know that defense

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Speaker 1: is good, but I mean that that's the kind of Brady.

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Speaker 1: You know that those exclamation points, those bleep you things

729
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Speaker 1: you just don't typically see unless you really frustrate him,

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Speaker 1: you hit him, you make him move off of his

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Speaker 1: spot in the pocket. And that's what New Orleans did

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Speaker 1: all night long. They kept him frustrated. He wasn't on

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Speaker 1: his game. They weren't on their game in Tampa, and

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Speaker 1: that defense just they just continue to eat as the

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Speaker 1: night went on and held him to zero points. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever yelled at an opposing coach during a game.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I have. I'm sure I have multiple times.

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to actually get caught where you can

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Speaker 1: actually mouth and see and see the words that you're

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Speaker 1: saying to that individual. That very rarely happens, but you

741
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: know you've seen it. It happened. I've seen it happened

742
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: during games with Brady where he's yelling and screaming at guys.

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Speaker 1: That's the intensity you want from your quarterback. That's the

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Speaker 1: intensity you want out of the guys you're lining up

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Speaker 1: in the huddle. You just don't want to get caught

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Speaker 1: on TV with the bleep you. But can you play

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Speaker 1: mad at that position? If anybody can, it's Brady. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brady's played in just about every mindset throughout the years,

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Speaker 1: throughout his career. It's a little bit harder. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: when when you're exchanging words on the sideline and just

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Speaker 1: when you're throwing out the end of that bleep, thek

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00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: of that bleep, your headset starts coming in and here

753
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: comes the next play. So you got to really quickly reload,

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00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: get whatever thoughts that are in your head out so

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00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: that you can hear that next play because now you're

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00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: on the play clock. You only have twenty five seconds

757
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: to hear that play, get to the huddle and relay it.

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: And he just that was just one of those nights.

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Speaker 1: It's it's fun. I mean, you know, unless you're a

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Speaker 1: New England fan when he was there, a Tampa Bay fan.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to see Brady get mad. It's fun to

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Speaker 1: see him get animated and see him get blanked, and

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Speaker 1: see him put up a goose egg every once in

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Speaker 1: a while because it's so rare. What did you think

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Speaker 1: of John Harball going for two going for the win

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Speaker 1: against the Packers. I loved it. I don't care what

767
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: anybody says. He's down a bunch of guys there, everybody

768
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: on defense is essentially hurt. He's down his MVP quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He knows if he kicks the extra point and goes

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Speaker 1: to extra time. The odds aren't in his favor when

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Speaker 1: you go to extra periods and overtime and you don't

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Speaker 1: have your quarterback, and you don't have six starters on defense,

773
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and you're down your left tackle on your right guard,

774
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: and so on and so on. I like trying to

775
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: go for the win and letting it ride, and it's

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00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: really a gamble at that point, But it's just as

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00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: much of a gamble going into overtime. Maybe you lose

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00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: the coin toss again, you're downstarters on defense, you're downstarters

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Speaker 1: on offense. Trying to put the game away there and

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00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: move on and get to next week. I get it.

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00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: I love it. Unfortunately it didn't work out this time.

782
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: But I have the weapon of Justin Tucker, like I can't.

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00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: I have to acknowledge that that if I get to overtime, Yes,

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Speaker 1: if they win the coin toss, there's a great chance

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00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: they might go down and score a touchdown. But if

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00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: we win the toss, I still have Justin Tucker to

787
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: put us up three points and really put some pressure

788
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. So while I love that they went

789
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: for it and John Harball gave his team, the confidence

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00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: that he believed in them. I got a backup quarterback

791
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: who had one read and he missed Hollywood Brown who

792
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: was wide open as well. I love Justin Tucker too,

793
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: But we're talking about a kicker. I mean we're talking

794
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: about going to extra periods. You got Aaron Rodgers and

795
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: a team to about eleven and three on the opposing sideline.

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00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: You've got all kinds of weapons at their disposal. You

797
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: have very few weapons. Like you just said, you're on

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Speaker 1: your backup quarterback going into extra time. I think Justin

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Speaker 1: Tucker's potentially a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest

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00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: kickers I've ever seen. But at the end of the day,

801
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: I like letting it ride and seeing if you can

802
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: get out of there with a win in one play

803
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: as opposed to having to play as an entire excuse me,

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00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: another period after that. Are you sold on the Saints

805
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: having a quarterback going into next season? No? No, The

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00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Saints will be drafting, trading something, something will happen, but

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00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: they will not move forward. I still, you know, Taysom

808
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Hill just signed a contract, and it's a great contract

809
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: to be a weapon and be kind of that utility

810
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: knife that he can play on special teams, he can

811
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Speaker 1: run down and cover kicks. He can play running back, receiver, quarterback.

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00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: He will be in that system obviously with his new contract,

813
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: but they will be looking for a new starting quarterback

814
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: for sure. It feels like the Colts are succeeding, but

815
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: not because of Carson Wentz. It feels like it's their

816
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: defense in Jonathan Taylor. So how do you what are

817
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: the eight and six their playoff caliber team? But I

818
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: just don't know how much can you rely on Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is unfortunately not the quarterback we thought he

820
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Speaker 1: was four years ago. I mean, Carson Wentz is right now.

821
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Speaker 1: What he's put on tape over the last three years

822
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Speaker 1: is he's an average quarterback. He's not in that top

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Speaker 1: tier of five or ten guys. He's not in the

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Speaker 1: bottom tier of those bottom five or ten guys. He's

825
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the pack. There's some plays

826
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: that you watch when he plays in that pick he

827
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: threw into the triple coverage kind of near the end

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Speaker 1: of the game. There's just some plays you can't make

829
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Speaker 1: if you are a top five or top ten quarterback.

830
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Speaker 1: Fortunately for Carson, they've got an unbelievable defense. I mean,

831
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Speaker 1: they have some ballhawks, they have some receivers playing corner

832
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: and safety. Love their linebacker corps. They can rush the passer,

833
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: they can stop the run. That offensive line, I just

834
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: wish that offensive line was there when Andrew Luck was there.

835
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: It was the opposite. But they are absolutely thriving with

836
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Speaker 1: and you know, at this point in his career, a

837
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: very average point in Carson Carson Wentz's career. They're thriving,

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00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: they're finding ways to win. But as this team gets

839
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: to the final stretch of the season, as they get

840
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he's he is susceptible. He is something

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00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: you almost have to protect. You need to protect his

842
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: bad play. You need to protect those arrant decisions and

843
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: throws that he's made because they're good enough everywhere else

844
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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game or maybe two with that

845
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: running back in that defense. Your Arizona Cardinals were five

846
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: and two through seven games last season. Then they go

847
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: three and six. So we've been talking about your Cardinals

848
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: and then they go cross country and they get roughed

849
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: up by the lines. Are we headed down the same

850
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: road this year? I am concerned about it. See and

851
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins on the sideline. I mean that that has

852
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: been Kyler Murray's blanket of security. I mean there is

853
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: no doubt when Kyler gets in the back of the

854
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: pocket and he can't quite see what's going on, he

855
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: just finds a way to find DeAndre somewhere else on

856
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: the He may have had him on a curl. He

857
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: needs to find him streaking across the field or taking

858
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: off down the sideline. That's been a massive security blanket.

859
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: He's thrown game winners, like the Hail Mary he threw

860
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: against Buffalo a couple of years ago at home. He's

861
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: on third down, he's consistently found him. Last week in

862
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: Chicago on fourth and two, he threw him a go

863
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: route where he threw an unbelievable ball and DeAndre made

864
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: a great catch over the shoulder for a touchdown. That

865
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: blanket is gone. DeAndre is not coming back. He will

866
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: not be on the sidelines. He will not be suited

867
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: up this year unfortunately. So that is a huge concern.

868
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, going into Detroit and losing to a very

869
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: hungry Detroit team that wants to make a statement against

870
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: one of the best teams the NFC was not ideal

871
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: and that was just a blip in the road. But unfortunately,

872
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: I think the bigger issue outside of losing Detroit as

873
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: they DeAndre Hopkins down the stretch. This is when DeAndre

874
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: makes way and this is when DeAndre makes game winning

875
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: plays in December and into January, and unfortunately, now we're

876
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: going to really see what Kyler's may have made of.

877
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's lost some guys throughout the year. They

878
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: lost Jase Edmunds, who they just got back. He lost

879
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: Larry Fitz obviously, Larry Larry Fitz retired last year. Now

880
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: without DeAndre, we're really going to see how great this

881
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: young quarterback is. And I can't wait to watch the

882
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 1: play these last couple weeks. His body language is really

883
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: bad though, Like when things go bad and you know that, Carson,

884
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: it's really hard to like, Damn, that's not my fault,

885
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: but I'm going to get blamed for it. Um he's

886
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: showing blame and I don't know if he's aware of it,

887
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: but that his body language was bad yesterday. The good

888
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: news is his body language is not Jay Cutler bad.

889
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: It's bad, but it could be worse. But no doubt.

890
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean, when when you know that that's something you

891
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: know when you look at Cutler's body language awful for

892
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: the Capitol A and the Capitol W. No doubt. I

893
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: mean it's bad. And I just look back at his

894
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: short career. He only played one year in college. He

895
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: only had one opportunity in college to really be the

896
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: guy and be the leader and be the captain and

897
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: be the guy that can't have bad language. And then

898
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: he thrust right into the NFL and started Week one.

899
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: So he hasn't had the ups and downs. He hasn't

900
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: had the peaks and valleys and the adversity that makes

901
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: you be tough, that makes you put on a winning

902
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: face and not have a losing face or have that

903
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: bad body language. He hasn't gone through that as a

904
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: player yet. But it's bad. There's no doubt about it.

905
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: You can tell his teammates and the guys around him

906
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: since that's something that Kyler definitely needs to work on.

907
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: I can't figure out the Titans and the Steelers. I

908
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: thought I figured out the Titans because they were beating

909
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: really good teams and it comes down to can Ryan

910
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: Tannehill win a game for you? I thought they had

911
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: a great game plan. Running the ball felt like they

912
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: were going to dominate the Steelers, and Pittsburgh wins that game.

913
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: How do you explain then, Yeah, I mean I feel

914
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: like they're they're pretty well figured out. Tennessee is a

915
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: one man show. It's a Derrick Henry show. And they

916
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: got away with some wins, and they found a way

917
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: to win without him those first couple of weeks. They

918
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: found a way to lose to some really bad teams

919
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: without him since he's gone down. So they are what

920
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: they are. I mean, they're a nine and seven team.

921
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the year, maybe they

922
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: make a playoff run, maybe they can squeak in, but

923
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: they're not getting passed anybody in the playoffs. Pittsburgh at

924
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Pittsburgh's just not very good.

925
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: They're just really, really well coached. And that organization is

926
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: that organization for a reason, because they do it right

927
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: year in year out. Through their history, they happen to

928
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: have you know, Ben still, you know, he's still a

929
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, He's still one of the best that

930
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: I ever played against. Personally, he's at the end of

931
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: the road. But that team is just so well coached

932
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: and and there's such a belief in Tomlin and his

933
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: system and next man mentality. We've seen that through through

934
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: his tenure. We've seen it through Coach Kowar's tenure before

935
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin got there. That organization, that coaching staff, the

936
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: way they're built, even when they're bad, that's a bad

937
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: football team. There's a couple of good players on defense

938
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: and a handful of pretty good players on offense, but

939
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: that team is so well coached, that organization is so

940
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: well run. They're gonna win games they shouldn't, and they're

941
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna beat some teams they have no business beating. And

942
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: then they're they're because they're not that great. They're gonna

943
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: lose to some bad teams. They're gonna get blown out

944
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: like they did against Cincinnati a couple of weeks ago.

945
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: But that team will find a way to be a

946
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: winning team like they have every year since Mike Tomlin's

947
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: been there. And that's why you wanted Mike Tomlin as

948
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: the next head coach at USC Maybe after maybe Lincoln

949
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Riley leaves for the NFL, then maybe we can get him.

950
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: He's one of the best I ever played against, and

951
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: I love watching his teams play, but they're just not

952
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: that good on offense or defense. Unfortunately, were you treated

953
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: worse by the fans in Pittsburgh or Cleveland? Pittsburgh for

954
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: absolutely so, there's there's just a hatred. You walk into

955
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: hines Field, there's a hatred. Doesn't matter what jersey you

956
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: got on, if it's not black and yellow, there's a

957
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: certain hatred and you feel it and you'll love it.

958
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: And it's a great, great energy. Not that the energy

959
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: in Baltimore is anything to shake a stick at, because

960
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I love playing in Baltimore. Baltimore is the most college

961
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: like atmosphere. They've got the band, they've got all these

962
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: fest festivities, they've got the pregame intro with Ray Lewis

963
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: and Trrell Suggs would do their dances. Two great, great venues.

964
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: But there's nothing like especially when you're an Inner Division

965
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: team and you're playing for the Bengals, Browns or Ravens

966
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: and you walk into hines Field, especially on a Sunday

967
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: night or a Monday night game against in that atmosphere,

968
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: against those fans, it's like having a twelfth defender on

969
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: the field sometimes because they are so tense and the

970
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: electricity in that stadium is so great. We've seen some

971
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. Kenny Pickett's not going to play in

972
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the Peach Bowl, and I'm curious when the playoff expand

973
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: to twelve schools, then you're gonna have some real hard

974
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: decisions by some of these players. I don't have any

975
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: problem if you know Kenneth Walker doesn't want to play

976
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl as a running back, any running

977
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: back you don't want to play, or pick it doesn't

978
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: want to play. But what's it going to be like though,

979
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: when we get to the playoffs and now you're going

980
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: to be playing in a playoff game as opposed to

981
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: a you know, the Peach Bowl. I think there's gonna

982
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: be far fewer players tapping out and saying they're not

983
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: going to play if they if their team is in

984
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs now, if they're in some bowl that just

985
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: got named last month that we don't know about. I

986
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: can understand a guy sitting out. But as soon as

987
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: you have a chance to play for a national championship,

988
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: and it is dependent on whether you win or lose

989
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: that week, I think a majority of those guys, if

990
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent of them, decide they're going to

991
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: play and they're going to be there for their team

992
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: and see if they can win a national championship. Always

993
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: great to talk to you, Carson, Thanks for joining us,

994
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: Talk to you next week. Thanks Dan,