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Speaker 1: was quite curious to me. Welcome everyone to the Thursday

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Speaker 1: edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal here with Alana

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Speaker 1: Rizzo and Alana I would say the sport is still

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Speaker 2: Ken, always good to be with you on this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you. It is a good time to

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Speaker 2: But to your point, Ken, let's talk about the Midsummer Classic.

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Speaker 2: What are your biggest takeaways from what you covered over

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Speaker 1: The swing off. The swing off, to me, Alana was

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Speaker 1: something that I never expected to like, and I loved it.

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Speaker 1: And I loved it in part because I saw how much.

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Speaker 1: The players loved it, and I wrote about this yesterday

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Speaker 1: It was so cool from that perspective, and that alone,

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Speaker 1: playing a little kid's game. Don't forget you're playing a

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Speaker 1: little kid's game and you're making all this money, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes fans get frustrated when they don't. And yet in

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Speaker 1: a lot of the players were saying that, no, it's

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Speaker 2: No, it would definitely less than the impact if it

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Speaker 2: and that's the second half of the season. Ken, you

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Speaker 1: We both know that President Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman built

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much can happen over the course of the

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Speaker 2: All Star Break ken is the Boston Red Sox. On

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Speaker 3: To what you had to say.

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Speaker 4: Mess if he were here right now, I'd strangle him

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Speaker 1: He's out of his mind.

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Speaker 4: So look, I mean, they've been on a nice stretch here.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't you rather have Geelito as your number four starter

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Speaker 4: Joe Ryan. Now you're talking now, you can match up

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Speaker 4: And I love Kenny Kenny. I've learned a lot.

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Speaker 4: But no, you don't stop here with the young guys,

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Speaker 4: They just took what fourteen pictures in the draft or

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Speaker 1: First of all, Tony and I are friends, and I've

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Speaker 1: And that's why I mentioned Charlie Morton as an alternative.

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Speaker 1: the Twins are going to want to trade Joe Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good call, I'll and I will make sure I

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Speaker 2: for you, Ken Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: How dare he? I'm very close to the station now.

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Speaker 1: In terms of want, I don't bind it. I don't

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Speaker 2: The first one is from armand he wants to know

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Speaker 1: Armand I would say neither, and I hope neither. Now.

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Speaker 2: It's little bit gimmicky to have the swing off or

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Speaker 1: And it could be a corner infielder, it could be

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Speaker 2: And Ken, this is a team in the Mariners that

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Speaker 2: All right, Jack Summers, who does a great job as

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Speaker 1: one of those guys I would want back on a

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Speaker 1: no amount of money is that bad For one year.

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Speaker 1: give all four qualifying offers. That's what I would do.

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Speaker 2: So for the Diamondbacks. The next question is for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: The two teams that faced off against one another not

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Speaker 2: Frye from our chat BCC group. Hey, Ken, what's the

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Speaker 3: What do they need to move the needle?

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Speaker 1: Matt, I don't know that it's one move. I would

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Speaker 1: Alvarado's coming back in August, but he's not going to

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Speaker 1: They are a team that would be in the mix

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Classe and Jax and Duran. David

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Speaker 2: Due to the week, all right, I am going to

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Speaker 2: quickly make a change here, I'm throwing a curveball. I

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Speaker 2: still believe that the Dude of the Week is Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball for bringing back the team jerseys. I love

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Speaker 2: the fact that each player is wearing their respective jersey.

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Speaker 2: And I also want to compliment Major League Baseball and

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Speaker 2: Rob Manfred for the swing off. I think that was

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Speaker 2: really fun. We talked about it at the top of

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Speaker 2: the show. Players got into it in an exhibition game,

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Speaker 2: a meaningless game actually ended with a victor.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: My other Dude of the Week is Dino Eble, the

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Speaker 2: batting practice pitcher whose arm is probably going to fall off,

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Speaker 2: not only for you know, waving guys in with the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers as their third base coach, but he

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Speaker 2: must be tired in terms of pitching and did it

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Speaker 2: really really good job for the National League. He is

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Speaker 2: my due of the week for a variety of reasons. Okay,

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Speaker 2: time now for the John Fisher dork of the week.

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Speaker 3: Who do you have? Ken?

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Speaker 1: I don't know who exactly made this decision, so I

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Speaker 1: can't identify the perpetrator in particular, but the dork of

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Speaker 1: the week is the body or the group of people,

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Speaker 1: or the single person that ruled Brent Rooker out of

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Speaker 1: the first round of the home run derby for a

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Speaker 1: home run that was point ninety six of an inch

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Speaker 1: less than Cal Raley's best shot. They tied with seventeen

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Speaker 1: home runs each in the first round, and then each

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Speaker 1: hit a four hundred and seventy foot home run, and

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Speaker 1: they determined that Raleigh's home run was zero point ninety

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Speaker 1: six less than one inch longer. I want to shore

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Speaker 1: a quote from JJ Cooper of Baseball America and he's

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Speaker 1: on our network as well. He says, m there's pretty

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Speaker 1: much a zero chance the margin of error on the

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Speaker 1: tracking system can accurately measure a difference of an inch

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Speaker 1: in distance on a pair of balls that traveled four

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy feet. JJ went on to say, if

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Speaker 1: this was the rule, if this was what was established

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Speaker 1: and agreed upon problem. That's what they decided. But then

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Speaker 1: this tweet or post or quote I should say, from

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Speaker 1: Brent Rooker to Susan Sluster of the San Francisco Chronicle.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe if they have it to the decimal point,

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Speaker 1: they should display that during the derby and not wait

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Speaker 1: till everyone's done to bring out the information that might

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Speaker 1: be helpful. And I know what Brent's saying. It sounded

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Speaker 1: like this was decided after the fact. There are a

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Speaker 1: million dollars at stake here. Now, it was only the

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Speaker 1: first round, but cal Raley went on to win and

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Speaker 1: won a million dollars. Brent Rooker, had he beaten cal

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Speaker 1: Raley in the first round, might have been the guy

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Speaker 1: to get a million. I thought this should have gotten

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Speaker 1: a lot more attention. It was quite curious to me.

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Speaker 1: So MLB, whoever made that call broke of the week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Dallas Brayden, of course, who covers the athletics,

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Speaker 2: none too pleased about how it was so so so close. Rightfully, So, okay,

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Speaker 2: mine is my friend, my former colleague, everybody's favorite lunatic,

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Speaker 2: Chris Russo.

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Speaker 1: I put Timmy on FaceTime. Timny, we have tell that

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Speaker 1: people here that the GOP clubs are yours and your.

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Speaker 5: Father who pettipon wys it taken out of the airports.

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Speaker 6: I get to your clubs the next day and I

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Speaker 6: get out of it.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't let me take the clubs out of paintball.

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Speaker 6: Here's no answer.

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Speaker 4: It's protocol, sir.

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Speaker 1: I am not interested. Did you get arrested?

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Speaker 6: Almost the cops came, I said, calm down.

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Speaker 2: I love the fact that he told the cops at

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Speaker 2: London Heathrow Airport that he's going to be okay, told

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Speaker 2: the cops to calm down. This is Russo, who I adore,

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Speaker 2: of course, having a meltdown. On ESPN's first take on

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Speaker 2: what am I mad about? He went to Europe over

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Speaker 2: the break, apparently, and I guess there was some travel snaffoos.

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Speaker 2: His clubs got lost. He was playing some of the

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Speaker 2: courses in Scotland or London or England or wherever the

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Speaker 2: heck he went, and he couldn't get the clubs off

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Speaker 2: the plane. Had an absolute meltdown.

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Speaker 3: And there you have it. And this is a man who.

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Speaker 2: Is obsessed, obsessed with travel patterns anytime I would take

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Speaker 2: a flight. He wanted to know what airport. I was

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Speaker 2: coming out of what the flight was, the size of

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Speaker 2: the plane, who was flying, what seat, window, aisle? He

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Speaker 2: has them all memorized. Oh my god, you do not

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Speaker 2: want to get on Chris Russo's bad side when it

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Speaker 2: comes to travel. All right, for those of you still

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Speaker 2: with us, hello, as we continue here on affair territory

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Speaker 2: with Ken Rosenthal. So what is this I'm hearing Ken

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Speaker 2: about Kyle Tucker to Tampa Bay. Tell me more.

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Speaker 1: It's a note I wrote in the Athletic today, my

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Speaker 1: notes column, and it wasn't the first item. It was

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Speaker 1: more speculative than anything else. But here was the logic

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Speaker 1: behind it, if you want to call it logical. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Tucker is from Tampa. The Rays are in the process

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Speaker 1: of getting sold to Jacksonville developer who is going to

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Speaker 1: buy the team from one point seven billion, and presumably

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Speaker 1: we'll have the money to run the team. Now, what

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Speaker 1: is the best move a new owner could make, presuming

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Speaker 1: he is confirmed and approved by the off season. The

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Speaker 1: best move he can make would be to bring a

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Speaker 1: guy like Kyle Tucker home. Now, Kyle Tucker is likely

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Speaker 1: to get I don't know, four hundred million, five hundred

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Speaker 1: million in free agency. The Rays offered Freddie Freeman about

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty a couple of years ago, but

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is going to get three times that. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting the Rays to be a player for

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker. I just think it would be a really

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Speaker 1: cool move if a new owner could come in and

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Speaker 1: pull something like that off. Can you imagine it would

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Speaker 1: kind of shock the baseball world. The Rays are going

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Speaker 1: back to the Trap next year, that is the expectation.

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Speaker 1: And once they're sold, the expectation as well is that

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Speaker 1: they're going to relocate, possibly to Tampa. That would be

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Speaker 1: the favorite in the clubhouse. In a new ballpark. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's your centerpiece for a new ballpark going forward. It

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Speaker 1: would take a few years, of course, but if you're

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Speaker 1: signing Kyle Tucker, you're signing him for more than a

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Speaker 1: few years. So that was my theory all on it.

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Speaker 1: It's just a theory. It's just speculation. It's not inside information.

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Speaker 1: But I'm adding up too and two and trying to

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Speaker 1: get four.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, that up two and two

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Speaker 2: and two and two and two and two and two

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Speaker 2: and keep Kyle Tucker and give him the five hundred

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Speaker 2: million that you think he's going to warrant on that

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Speaker 2: free agent market.

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Speaker 1: They need to, but I don't know that they will.

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Speaker 1: And the Cubs are a team with what they call

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Speaker 1: clean books going forward. They've only one or two players

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Speaker 1: signed even beyond twenty six if I'm not mistaken. So

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Speaker 1: they have the ability to do it. The question is

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Speaker 1: whether the Ricketts ownership has the will to do it,

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Speaker 1: and that's something that is an open question because we

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Speaker 1: have seen that they have not been willing to kind

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Speaker 1: of get into that kind of contractual situation. They were

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Speaker 1: the team that finished fourth on Alex Reregman, a player

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Speaker 1: that they really could have used, and they were a

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Speaker 1: team that, yes, they paid one hundred and seventy seven

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Speaker 1: million for Dansby Swanson, but they're not a club that

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Speaker 1: steps out and operates the way a team in its

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Speaker 1: market market size should. So my expectation, if I had

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Speaker 1: to guess right now, is that Kyle Tucker is not

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Speaker 1: a Chicago Cub next year. He's more likely to be

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Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Philly or be with some other team than

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Speaker 1: the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: Holy cow, there's a lot of folks in our chat

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Speaker 2: right now, specifically Mike G that's saying that you're breaking

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Speaker 2: his heart right before a nice weekend homestand to start

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Speaker 2: the second half. Let me ask you this, though kind

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Speaker 2: of Cubs related, Boston Red Sox are about to find

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Speaker 2: out what they're made of. Ken they have the Cubs,

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Speaker 2: they have the Phillies and the Dodgers. I mean, these

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Speaker 2: are three massive series. How do you think this plays out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out a lot. I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 1: And their schedule is the toughest of any teams going forward.

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Speaker 1: I saw a chart on that the other day. I

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Speaker 1: am in Chicago for that series this weekend Fox Game

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. But you're right, the Red Sox are

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Speaker 1: going to be tested over the next ten days or

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Speaker 1: so and we're going to see a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a clearer picture of exactly who they are now. Bregman

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Speaker 1: is back and that's a good thing for them. That

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Speaker 1: should help them. They need to keep pitching the way

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Speaker 1: they have. That's been the key to this. It's not

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Speaker 1: just Crochet right now, it's BeO and Giolito. So without

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Speaker 1: Hunter Dobbins, who's out now, they're gonna have to another starter.

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Speaker 1: We've discussed this and they're gonna have to keep pitching

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Speaker 1: well a better defense. Raphaela looks like he might be

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Speaker 1: a star, and the other kids are quite impressive as well,

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Speaker 1: so it's going to be an interesting test. They're a

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Speaker 1: talented team. They need to do some things at the deadline,

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Speaker 1: no question, but I am eager to see the Red

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Speaker 1: Sox play. That's the rest of the season, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Ken and aj Prasinski at a game together over

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Speaker 2: the course of the weekend in Chicago. God speed to you,

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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal and Ken Rosenthal will be back with the

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Speaker 2: fresh new episode of Fair Territory on Monday. We are

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Speaker 2: done for today. Foul Territory is next. Scott bron and

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Speaker 2: the boys are with you. Thanks for being here.

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