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Speaker 2: Oh it's back, baby, It is back hatred in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, and we aren't talking about questions, asked

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Speaker 2: the head coaches. We will get to that. It is

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Speaker 2: a Wildcard Monday and there is still one game to go.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday, Carry Rhodes, how are you Is it Monday already?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: Not?

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Speaker 3: Just sit with you in this chair like two hours ago.

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Speaker 2: We were here on Sunday for a crazy afternoon on

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Speaker 2: end Zone Radio, and back at it on a Monday

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Speaker 2: where there is still as one more wild card game

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Speaker 2: to be played Texans and Steelers. But the five that

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Speaker 2: we had prior, Wow, really what a weekend. Saturday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: great game Sunday Saturday night, great game Sunday afternoon, great game,

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Speaker 2: late game on Sunday, awesome game Sunday night. Can't win

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Speaker 2: them all. Can't win them all, sorry, Chargers fans. Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 2: I know it was tough. Yeah, can't do it it.

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Speaker 2: Can't do it my military. Nope, not four out of five.

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Speaker 2: Ain't bad, Glove said two out of three ain't bad.

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Speaker 2: Four out of five ain't bad. Oh, but I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what is bad, and in a good way. The

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Speaker 2: Packers Bears rivalry is back, and it's back with a vengeance.

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's actually just talk about what happened

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Speaker 2: on Saturday night. Green Bay blows a twenty one to

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Speaker 2: three lead at the half to the Chicago Bears. Caleb

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Speaker 2: forth in the fourth quarter. Ultimately Chicago ends up getting

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Speaker 2: the victory in a game where I saw videos of

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Speaker 2: multiple Bears fans crying of having tears from winning a

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Speaker 2: wild card game, tears of joyt Now there may be

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Speaker 2: tears in Green Bay when they find out Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 2: is back for a few years, but that isn't hasn't

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Speaker 2: been confirmed. We'll get to that in a second. But

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Speaker 2: when we talk about the actual game, like, this game

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Speaker 2: meant everything to the Chicago Bears, and for a half

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Speaker 2: it looked like it was completely lost, and then Caleb

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Speaker 2: turn things around on the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's the thing about that game.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people, you know, want to praise the offense,

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Speaker 5: praise Caleb praise been obviously well deserved and they should

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Speaker 5: be praised. But the defense was horrific in the first half,

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Speaker 5: and Green Bay got whatever they wanted, and for them

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Speaker 5: to come out after halftime correct that come out and

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Speaker 3: But when you talk about the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: And you talk about why the Bears and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: was able to come back, there's a couple of factors.

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Speaker 5: Green Bay got conservative, which they've done and which is

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Speaker 5: part of their history, and with their tie with Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 5: that happened a little bit. But also, I think Caleb

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Speaker 5: Williams plays his best when it's backyard football, right when

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Speaker 5: he can go out there and be the most athletic player.

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Speaker 5: He can be the guy that can complete pass his

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Speaker 5: And so I would think moving forward now that they

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson and that offense in Caleb Williams, I would

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Speaker 5: those easy completions matter because he's not as accurate right

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Speaker 5: now when it's when defense are able to defenses are

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Speaker 2: You're saying that would maybe prevent Chicago from being in

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Speaker 2: it up to see what they did. Yeah, ultimately in

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Speaker 2: there are now so many images just from that Saturday

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Speaker 2: Is talked about the rivalry. And then we saw the

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Speaker 2: The the lack of respect in that handshake was daunting,

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Speaker 2: like there's ways to do it, there's ways to be respectful,

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Speaker 2: make this as disrespectful as possible? There was no even

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if he got the tap on

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Speaker 2: the FCC wouldn't allow us. But he said, bleep the Packers.

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Speaker 2: And this has kind of been a message with the

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Speaker 4: Like I said before, there's a rivalry that exists between

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Speaker 4: just I don't like that team. So George and I

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Speaker 2: That is amazing that the team president ownership is like,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, continue to continue to say bleep the Packers

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Speaker 2: because that's how we feel about them, and it is

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Speaker 2: actually refreshing. And we'll get to a Green Bay sort

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Speaker 2: of thing in the second. But Kerry, this is what

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Speaker 2: the NFL has been lacking for a while. Rivalry uniforms

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Speaker 2: do not make a rivalry. Just because the Seahawks are

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Speaker 2: that game means much more. What means more is winning

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Speaker 2: it and moving up in the standings, or beating your rival.

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Speaker 2: Because the forty nine ers were black against the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: York Jets, none of that means rivalry. Stuff when your

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Speaker 2: to say, bleep the Packers. That is what a rivalry is.

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Speaker 2: And that is what I thought is actually the biggest

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Speaker 2: it is back at a fever pitch. So with that

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Speaker 2: back to being the best rivalry in the National Football.

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Speaker 5: League and the only way that comes to fluition, which

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Speaker 5: it is right now at this moment, at its peak,

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Speaker 5: the Bears have to win. And now that they were

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Speaker 5: able to win this game, like all the talk, all

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Speaker 5: the chatter, that's fine, Like the we could feel the inertia,

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Speaker 5: we could feel the energy going towards it becoming what

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Speaker 5: you just eloquently stated.

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Speaker 3: But the Bears have to win games.

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Speaker 5: And so the fact that they were able to come

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Speaker 5: much more, and then you can pound that with the handshake,

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Speaker 5: the triple the double triple down after like not backing

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Speaker 5: down or let's let's get it like that part, that

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Speaker 5: the rivalries matter. And for the NFL to get back

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Speaker 5: And then the handshake between Bill Belichick and Mangini was

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Speaker 2: I think that there's there's connections and stuff that can

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Speaker 2: a Sunday night game, I'm sure, and the other one

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Speaker 2: still is a question about Lafleur. I told you yesterday

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Speaker 2: Lafleur should be done. I think the Packers reading today

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur work out some sort of contract extension, so

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty sixth season isn't a lame duck season.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Matt Lafleor has earned another contract extension.

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Speaker 2: I don't, and I think that Saturday it gave them

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Speaker 2: too much. Enough is enough. The conservative nature of how

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Speaker 2: in a contest against the forty nine ers. It's now

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Speaker 2: it provided the perfect avenue for green Bay to take

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Speaker 2: look elsewhere. I can't imagine a Packer fan, after dealing

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Speaker 2: waking up today and reading that the Packers still plan

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Speaker 2: this is a feel good Monday for them.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Dan, with all that you just said and the

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Speaker 5: intensity that has been picked up with the rivalry and

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Speaker 5: bringing it back, and you have the two head coaches,

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Speaker 5: they don't they can't stand each other, like right now,

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Speaker 5: with all that being said, why would you remove one

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Speaker 2: So you're right now, you're one hundred percent right, and

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Speaker 2: maybe there is even now today Green Bay's like, well,

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Speaker 2: we can't fire him now because that makes it look

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Speaker 2: like the Bears made us fire him. Like, you're right,

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Speaker 2: the story continues. I just look at it from a

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Speaker 2: you and I had a discussion yesterday, and I'm curious

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Speaker 2: again to hear your thoughts on John Harbaugh. But John

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh's names out there, so Packer fans may be saying, well,

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Speaker 2: if we could get John Harbaugh in here, like isn't

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Speaker 2: that an upgrade over Matt laflor Like maybe the other

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, I was honestly yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ah. Yes, one more to go Texans Steelers tonight in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot to talk about from wild Card

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Speaker 3: What are you laughing at, Dan?

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Speaker 2: Because of my hates, We're gonna do love and hate

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Speaker 2: in the second, Isaac low and Cron, Jason Stewart and

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Speaker 3: I fell in the air, I went to in the air.

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Speaker 2: I went to Starbucks this morning and I wanted to

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Speaker 2: wait for another day. Jason's computer is on the fritz.

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Speaker 2: You can find Jason Stewart at Jason Stewart, at Iowa

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Speaker 1: What did you love?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Packer fans hated seeing that Matt

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Speaker 8: Why do you say paus like it's spelled with an oh.

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Speaker 8: You don't like that boy Tony none of that stuff.

435
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Speaker 8: And it's hard to present like clips if Tony Romo

436
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Speaker 8: being bad because it's more of like a sit there

437
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Speaker 8: and feel it and hear it thing as opposed to

438
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Speaker 8: like he screwed up this call, right, you know.

439
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Speaker 5: And the whole thing about Tony Romo, he started out

440
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: as an illusions right, So at the person watching the

441
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Speaker 5: game that has no football knowledge, he was calling plays

442
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Speaker 5: right like, he was saying, they're gonna run this, and it's.

443
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Speaker 3: Like, oh, they ran it. Oh he's he's the best.

444
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Speaker 5: That gag is run out well, because obviously any one

445
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Speaker 5: of us can sit there and steady it throughout the

446
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Speaker 5: week and say they're in there for Mason Gona, they're

447
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Speaker 5: gonna run that play. The gag is up, And I

448
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Speaker 5: think that's what Tony Romo and he hasn't evolved from there.

449
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Speaker 9: God, so I was here with the game on working,

450
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Speaker 9: but I couldn't hear it, but I heard that Romo

451
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Speaker 9: was making a ton of golf references, and my buddy Dylan,

452
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Speaker 9: who loves golfing, he just said it was so annoying.

453
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Speaker 9: And so it's like, if you're making somebody golf references

454
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Speaker 9: that you're annoyed by it, and you're a fan of golfing,

455
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Speaker 9: then it must have been too much.

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Speaker 2: Dan, your thoughts, Yeah, I was gonna say, you asked

457
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Speaker 2: me this, and I told Jason today, I didn't listen

458
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Speaker 2: closely enough to be annoyed. I watched the game, I

459
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Speaker 2: had the game on. I was not paying attention really

460
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Speaker 2: to the broadcast, and maybe because of my son being

461
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Speaker 2: in the living room and a lot going on. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 2: I wasn't missing the play. I wasn't listening as much,

463
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Speaker 2: and I think that's part of it. So, like as

464
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Speaker 2: Jason was saying, like yesterday was a standalone game, and

465
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Speaker 2: I think that people when they consume football, they're usually

466
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Speaker 2: watching for the their own local teams first, and then

467
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Speaker 2: if you have stuff to do on that Sunday, maybe

468
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Speaker 2: you're not taking in the game that Romo does. Romo

469
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Speaker 2: maybe hasn't done your game, so you're not as focused

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Speaker 2: on it. I wasn't as focused. I watched the whole

471
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Speaker 2: game yesterday, but I wasn't as focused as much on

472
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Speaker 2: the stuff that Romo was saying. I do know on

473
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Speaker 2: the one Josh Allen touchdown where he scored the first time,

474
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Speaker 2: and Romo started talking about the ref running to some

475
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Speaker 2: spot and Nance was kind of like, no, they're spotting

476
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Speaker 2: it for the extra point where you could tell he

477
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Speaker 2: was kind of annoyed that he kind of ruined the

478
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Speaker 2: touchdown call then tried to distract from it, and Nance

479
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Speaker 2: had to said, like, no, that is a touchdown. So

480
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Speaker 2: like I remember that instance, but I don't remember all

481
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Speaker 2: of the Gulf sort of things. Just like to Jason's point,

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize what annoyed so many people yesterday about

483
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Speaker 2: Tony Romo.

484
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Speaker 5: And to Dan's point, with Tom, I mean Tom sought

485
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Speaker 5: it out so bad, Like his first broadcast was really bad.

486
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Speaker 5: So he was going to go up and he's going

487
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Speaker 5: to improve. That's who Tom Brady is. And so yeah,

488
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Speaker 5: the point to where he is now, and I mean

489
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Speaker 5: he's very insightful obviously, So we're getting that from Tom.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 2: Isaac Longcron at the news desk, Isaac, what did you

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Speaker 2: love from this past weekend.

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Speaker 10: Well, what I loved is actually also broadcaster related. I

494
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Speaker 10: was actually going to allude to Tom Brady, but al

495
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Speaker 10: Michaels of Prime had been really maligned during the course

496
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Speaker 10: of the regular season because fans felt that he just

497
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Speaker 10: wasn't as into the games as he should be. But

498
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Speaker 10: I thought he did an outstanding job. He was as

499
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Speaker 10: good as he's ever been for the really big moments

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Speaker 10: of the Bears Packers playoff game on Saturday night. Here's

501
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Speaker 10: a taste for the final play eating furiously.

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Speaker 11: Gets drapped loo looking one last guest, moving guys around,

503
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Speaker 11: fires to the end zone. Man, and it's crooked it

504
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Speaker 11: up the Bears, would it be?

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Speaker 10: So that was vintage al Michaels. You could hear that

506
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Speaker 10: extra oom in his voice on Saturday night.

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Speaker 8: So that was what I loved.

508
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Speaker 2: It was a great great watch snow flourish before the game.

509
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Speaker 2: It didn't dominate the game, thank goodness, because it could

510
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Speaker 2: have hampered the play that we had. You guys know

511
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Speaker 2: that I hate the snow games, the Blizzard games, because

512
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Speaker 2: I don't think you get real football. But everybody's like,

513
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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, it was cold, but they were able

514
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Speaker 2: to do their thing, Carrie, what you love from the weekend?

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Speaker 5: Man, I loved all of the NFL playoff game from

516
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Speaker 5: the weekend. I told Dan yesterday. I walked in like,

517
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Speaker 5: this is the time for me when I'm actually invested

518
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Speaker 5: because you're seeing x's and those elevated to a level

519
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Speaker 5: of when you call coaches and you call players magicians

520
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: or you call them geniuses, like those words get tossed

521
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Speaker 5: out a lot regular season. It's just not the same

522
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Speaker 5: for me because I played it. But when you get

523
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Speaker 5: to see guys come into the playoffs and have their

524
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Speaker 5: team prepared, more prepared than the other team, and have

525
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Speaker 5: the answers to the test. Me being a guy that

526
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Speaker 5: loves to stay in the space of like smart people

527
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Speaker 5: and people creating things and being imaginative like the playoffs,

528
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Speaker 5: I love that And so for me, I walked in

529
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Speaker 5: and really loved that.

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Speaker 2: Iowa, Sam your love from what was a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: In the eyes of Kerry, I'm gonna go to a

532
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Speaker 2: different sport here. This is you know.

533
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Speaker 9: My hate is definitely ready to go. My love I

534
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Speaker 9: took a little bit more time I needed to develop.

535
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Speaker 9: I mean it's really only skin deep, but I don't

536
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Speaker 9: have an NBA team, so I really root hard for

537
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Speaker 9: Iowa women's and men's basketball, and they had a mixed bag.

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Speaker 9: On Saturday, the men were playing Illinois. It was ranked

539
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Speaker 9: Iowa versusranked Illinois, and that's a rivalry game. Those two teams,

540
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Speaker 9: like the Bears and Packers, don't like each other, and

541
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Speaker 9: so that was a very frustrating watch. Iowa had their

542
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Speaker 9: chances and they ended up losing that game, and they're

543
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Speaker 9: on a bit of a skid now. So it was

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Speaker 9: great to see the Iowa women number fourteen, go on

545
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Speaker 9: the road to Indiana and a RaSE a sixteen point

546
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Speaker 9: halftime deficit, they ended up winning the game and they're

547
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Speaker 9: still undefeated in the Big Ten along with UCLA. So

548
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Speaker 9: that was a nice say. So if they had gone

549
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Speaker 9: on to yesterday along with the Packers loss, which I'll

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Speaker 9: get to, that would been a really crummy weekend.

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Speaker 3: But my hate is ready to go. Let's go.

552
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Dan, you still have yeah do what You're

553
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 2: not running the ship. I'm the captain now, I'm the captain.

554
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Speaker 2: You were the captain the whole time. And he has

555
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Speaker 2: a nice tan right now. He's he's really really tan today.

556
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Speaker 2: Really you are jeez, I hardly got any sun this weekend.

557
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Speaker 9: You were like Tony Romo after the game, hitting the

558
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Speaker 9: links outside Jacksonville because he was clearly, according to my friend,

559
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Speaker 9: he was just thinking about golfing the whole time.

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Speaker 3: No, Dani, it was a reference that that's to the

561
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Speaker 3: Somalian guy with.

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Speaker 9: The does get a good tan you know tan byer

563
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Speaker 9: over here.

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Speaker 2: I loved h this little bit on Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 2: from one Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 7: Well, none better than Kyle Shanahan and doing that a

567
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Speaker 7: brilliant play, unbelievable execution by Party and CNBC.

568
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Speaker 2: CNBC is the nickname for Christian McCaffrey. Some may call

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Speaker 2: him cm C. Jason Garrett called one more time.

570
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Speaker 7: None better than Kyle Shanahan and doing that a brilliant play,

571
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Speaker 7: Unbelievable execution by Purty and CNBC.

572
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Speaker 9: Unbelievable execution by Buddy Andrew Russ Sorkin and Jim Kramer.

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Speaker 3: Great John guys. I heard that too.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what, I'm glad, Oh my goodness, just magnificent.

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Speaker 2: The acronyms kids, the Business Channel in the running back

576
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Speaker 2: infused well squawk Box, you don't actually say you don't

577
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Speaker 2: have to say to that Bravo another network, there are

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Speaker 2: okay there, yeah, there you go. All right, Sam, you're

579
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Speaker 2: ready to go what you got from this weekend?

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get it started.

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Speaker 2: You're a non resident hatericularly start betting leadoff in the

582
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Speaker 2: hates it might be.

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Speaker 9: You know, I am a Packer fan, and you know,

584
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Speaker 9: going to this game, I totally understood the rivalry. Saturday

585
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Speaker 9: night was all right for fighting. It was a good game,

586
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Speaker 9: especially if you're a Bears fan. I expected the Bears

587
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Speaker 9: to win, but for the Packers to get up twenty

588
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Speaker 9: one to three, they turned into a pumpkin. And that

589
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 9: was the hard part. I was hard watching that. I

590
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 9: expected the Bears to win, but not to come back

591
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Speaker 9: on the Packers like that.

592
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Speaker 3: So that was tough.

593
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: That was really hard.

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Speaker 9: Whenever it goes like that and you have you know,

595
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Speaker 9: you're up by eighteen and then you just slowly let

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Speaker 9: them get back into it. That that's been the Bears

597
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 9: kind of mo the season, these late game comebacks, and

598
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Speaker 9: so yeah, it was that was really difficult to watch.

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Speaker 3: That was not fun.

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Speaker 9: And then all the stuff today with the coaches going

601
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Speaker 9: at it and all that stuff. It was and Lafleur's

602
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Speaker 9: future sort of in limbo. It's it's been rough to

603
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Speaker 9: be a Packer fan.

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Speaker 2: I am going to I'm just gonna piggyback off of

605
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Speaker 2: that because I was actually cheering for the Packers. And

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Speaker 2: I know there's the old adage be careful what you

607
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Speaker 2: wish for, but I wanted the Packers to play the

608
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Speaker 2: Seahawks in the next round. Green Bay victory would have

609
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Speaker 2: allowed that to happen. The worst case scenario for me,

610
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Speaker 2: is I foreshadowed on this show weeks ago, was that

611
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Speaker 2: if the Seahawks were going to make it to the

612
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, then they'd have to somehow go through San

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Speaker 2: Francisco and the Rams again. And that scenario is still

614
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Speaker 2: in play, and I think it's very much in play.

615
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Speaker 2: Seahawks may not get it out of Saturday. I think

616
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Speaker 2: they're gonna Rumors they're gonna play the first game. Nothing confirmed,

617
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Speaker 2: but they got the forty nine ers coming into town,

618
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Speaker 2: and you know, San Francisco smarting from that Week eighteen

619
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Speaker 2: loss now with some momentum with the game. I don't

620
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Speaker 2: love the Seahawks path. I didn't like it even when

621
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Speaker 2: they were the number one overall seed and got home field,

622
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Speaker 2: and nothing over the weekend made me feel better about it.

623
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Speaker 2: I thought maybe Carolina could do the unthinkable and knock

624
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Speaker 2: off the Rams, and then green Bay bleww well just

625
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Speaker 2: during the game, like it was like maybe they had

626
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Speaker 2: a chance, but then green Bay up twenty one to three.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, all right, good, So even if the

628
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers win, Rams and forty nine Ers can

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Speaker 2: play each other, and then that's maybe who the Seahawks

630
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Speaker 2: could play. I wanted Green Bay to win. They didn't

631
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Speaker 2: do it, and now the Seahawks have a date with

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Speaker 2: the Niners.

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Speaker 3: We'll concerned you most about the Niners.

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Speaker 2: Just well, Christian McCaffrey, specifically McCaffrey. Yeah, yeah, McCaffrey, cnbcn

635
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Speaker 2: Let's go to ma'am tucket pretty hofback. Remember they they

636
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Speaker 2: played Week one. They played a tight game and Party

637
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: threwing up in the end zone just and it was

638
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Speaker 2: caught for a touchdown that kind of ended up being

639
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Speaker 2: the ultimate game winner for San Francisco. It's you just

640
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: want to feel more comfortable, and it's not that the

641
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Speaker 2: Seahawks can't win that game. It's just much more of

642
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Speaker 2: a coin flip. I think with San Francisco because you

643
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Speaker 2: just don't know because you know so much about each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Jason.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, justin Herbert had a bad night. I don't carry

646
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Speaker 8: can give you kind of maybe the football analysis of

647
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Speaker 8: what happened, but like it was a rough go for

648
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Speaker 8: the first half, and then something happened at halftime and

649
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Speaker 8: the Patriots just like amped up the pressure and got

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Speaker 8: through the holes and did all that stuff. Like I was,

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Speaker 8: it got to the point in the fourth quarter, I'm like,

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Speaker 8: they just need to do a mercy move and get

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Speaker 8: him out of the game here.

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Speaker 2: I felt.

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Speaker 8: I felt bad, not that he was getting sacked, it's

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Speaker 8: like how he was getting sacked. I don't remember a

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Speaker 8: quarterback in the NFL taking that much of a beating.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know if it's because he's got this

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Speaker 8: big frame and easy to hit and it looks more painful.

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Speaker 2: I think he's flying all over the place.

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Speaker 9: He was like laying out, like completely stretched out.

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Speaker 3: It just looked he looked very vulnerable. Yeah, it was bad.

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Speaker 5: I didn't seen any anybody get hit like that either

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Speaker 5: at the quarterback position in a long time. So it

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Speaker 5: reminded me of old school football, where like the quarterback

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Speaker 5: foot fair game.

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Speaker 10: Y a tittle bleeding on his.

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Speaker 3: Knees exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: And as far as the football part of it, you know, Jason,

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Speaker 5: it was just he had no answer to the test.

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Speaker 5: He did not know where to go with the ball,

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Speaker 5: Like he had no release points, no checkdowns, nothing was available.

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Speaker 5: And you look at some of the reverse shots, no

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Speaker 5: receivers were opened either. Like it was bad football around.

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Speaker 2: That was one of my takeaways that when you really

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Speaker 2: look at the Chargers wide receiving corps, it's not that great.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's an understatement, like you're counting on

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Speaker 2: an aging Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Ladd mccaky can be really good. I think

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Speaker 2: that the jury is in with their verdict. Quintin Johnson

682
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Speaker 2: can make plays, but he's never gonna be your number

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Speaker 2: one wide receiver guy. And if you can get locked

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Speaker 2: up by a defense like that, he said nobody was open,

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Speaker 2: nobody could get open last night. Mccakiye, I think let

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Speaker 2: him and Isaac can confirm. Thirty two yards receiving was

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Speaker 2: that it? Yeah, Gadston was second with thirty yards.

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Speaker 9: I like him though, he I mean he was using

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Speaker 9: a rookie this past year, right, yeah, yeah, and but

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Speaker 9: he obviously just a rookie. But you know, yeah, I like,

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Speaker 9: I do think he's got a bright future.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at times, yeah, at times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it's just And also Roman, Roman's

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Speaker 5: not I don't think Roman's the guy is going to

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Speaker 5: elevate Herbert's way.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be No, but the Roman Empire maybe collapsing, Isaac.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, same.

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Speaker 10: I got the numbers here, Chargers top three receivers last night,

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Speaker 10: Lad McConkie Keenan Allen and Quentin Johnston nine catches on

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Speaker 10: eighteen targets. So that's really what my hate was all

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Speaker 10: told with the Chargers. And look, there's a number of

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Speaker 10: reasons and a number of areas where blame is justified

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Speaker 10: on the Chargers end, but you guys kind of touched

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Speaker 10: on it. I also honestly have to credit the pass

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Speaker 10: coverage of the New England Patriots because last week, in

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Speaker 10: the lead up to this game, I was following a

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Speaker 10: bunch of the Patriots reporters who covered the team, and

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Speaker 10: they were all saying, you know, our secondary Carlton Davis,

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Speaker 10: Christian Gonzalez, Marcus Jones, those guys are gonna have the

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Speaker 10: edge in coverage against the Chargers receivers, and I'm like,

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Speaker 10: come on, give me a break. But then throughout the

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Speaker 10: game last night, I'm writing notes, I'm sending text messages

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Speaker 10: to friends. The Chargers cannot get open within the first

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Speaker 10: five seconds of a play. The only time they're getting

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Speaker 10: open is after the three to five second mark, when

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Speaker 10: Herbert is extending the play. And the problem then is

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Speaker 10: he would miss the throws and and then along those lines.

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Speaker 10: This led to the following postgame comment by Patriots linebacker

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Speaker 10: Robert Splaine.

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Speaker 7: Just after the game, talking to a few of the

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Speaker 7: guys on their team, they had no clue what we

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Speaker 7: were doing. And they came up and said that we

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Speaker 7: have no clue what you guys were in all game.

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Speaker 10: So that's my hate what happened with the charters. But

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Speaker 10: at the same time, a grudging, highly respectful tip of

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Speaker 10: the cap to the Patriots defensive game plan and particularly

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Speaker 10: their defensive backs.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Greg Roman's got some spallaning to do some good,

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Speaker 2: All right, Kerry, send us off. What do you hate

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Speaker 2: from the weekend?

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Speaker 5: I hate to follow you guys after that, and I'm

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Speaker 5: going basketball. But my hate for the weekend was during

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Speaker 5: last week Anthony Davis, and I think a lot of

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Speaker 5: people have talked about him being injury prone. I think

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Speaker 5: that's pretty much public knowledge. He hurt his hand in

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Speaker 5: the game where he was just guarding a guy going

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Speaker 5: to the baseline. You know, it's a fandom like, you know,

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Speaker 5: hit his hand and it's like, oh, whatever, he's gonna

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Speaker 5: be fine, And it says might be out for the

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Speaker 5: season with the a hand ligament thing, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: all right, we know he's been mister Glass, We've heard that.

742
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Speaker 5: But you know, you want to have hope. You see

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Speaker 5: glimpses of why he is top seventy five and one

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Speaker 5: of the best players, and why you, you know whatever,

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Speaker 5: make the crazy trades you make. But he does not

746
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Speaker 5: play enough basketball, and he's gonna really hurt this team

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Speaker 5: and set this team back for years and years and

748
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Speaker 5: years after this trade.

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Speaker 3: So that's my.

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Speaker 5: Hate for the weekend. Anthony Davis. I'm sorry, brother, you

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Speaker 5: gotta get you gotta get healthy to do something.

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Speaker 2: Noted Mavericks fan. Somebody left here where. Everybody then said,

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Speaker 2: now is that the worst trade ever? Now? Is that

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Speaker 2: the worst trade ever? Now?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 2: That's love and hate.

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Speaker 2: They were fighting Shatterday Night, Shatterday Afternoon, Sunday afternoon, late

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon, and then there was Sunday Night Football. He's

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Speaker 2: carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. We expect a fight tonight

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, Texans and Steelers. Wrapping up wild Card weekend.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in about twelve minutes or so, Isaac Low

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Speaker 2: and cronell have an update of all the happenings of today,

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Speaker 2: including an update on the Matt Lafleur situation with Green Bays.

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Speaker 2: There are reports that the sides are working on a

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Speaker 2: new contract for the Packers head coach. You're giving that

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Speaker 2: a thumbs up.

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Speaker 5: No, Dan, when you said we're expecting to fight tonight,

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Speaker 5: I thought you were referencing that DK metcalf was back,

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Speaker 5: So I was.

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Speaker 2: I was, I kind of took a step back. He

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Speaker 2: is back, joining us, back for another go around, as

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Speaker 2: he does every Monday here on Fox Sports Radio. He's

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Speaker 2: the former GM of the Chargers and Raiders. Tom Telesco

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Speaker 2: joins us as we are almost through Wildcard weekend. Tom,

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Speaker 2: how's your Monday going.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing great. Good afternoon, guys.

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Speaker 3: Hi Tom.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's take us into the minds of of ed policy,

782
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Speaker 2: of Brian Gudukun stuff, maybe even Matt Lafleur. What is

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Speaker 2: what is today for a coach who doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: be a lame duck an organization that doesn't want a

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Speaker 2: lame duck head coach in twenty twenty six, but you're

786
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Speaker 2: coming off of a game you have blew a twenty

787
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Speaker 2: one to three lead at halftime to your bitter rival.

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Speaker 2: What is going through the heads of the Packers brass

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Speaker 2: and the Packers head coach on a day like today?

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Speaker 6: Well, from a from an office perspective, I'm assuming I'm

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Speaker 6: sure they were. They They've talked about the situation with

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Speaker 6: the contract with with where well before this weekend, and

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Speaker 6: you know, well before today, so I'm sure they knew

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Speaker 6: in their heads what their plan was already. You really

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Speaker 6: don't want to make big decisions based off one game.

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Speaker 6: I understand it's a playoff game. I understand it's a

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Speaker 6: game that the second half just went so poorly. But

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Speaker 6: when you're talking about extending your coach, you have to

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Speaker 6: look at the whole body at work, which I think

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Speaker 6: for Lafleur has been very very good. So they have

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Speaker 6: a good thing going there on offense and defense. Now

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Speaker 6: they may be losing their defensive coordinator. We shall see

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Speaker 6: as we go through this process, but they have a

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Speaker 6: good program there, they have talent. I really can't see

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Speaker 6: them want to start over with a new head coach,

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Speaker 6: but I guess we'll see. But I think the biggest

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Speaker 6: thing out of this is is you don't want to

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Speaker 6: make decisions just purely off one game. There's so many

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Speaker 6: emotions involved. A day after a game, and certainly a

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Speaker 6: day after a playoff team, you may want to get

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Speaker 6: a couple of days just to decompress and get away

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Speaker 6: and then come back and really have some common minds

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Speaker 6: and take care of it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe and maybe you just answered it there, but I

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Speaker 2: was just going to follow up with the fact of

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Speaker 2: how much does how Saturday night transpired affect this decision,

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Speaker 2: Like as much as you want to say we have

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Speaker 2: a plan in place, like, it was not good Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and I just don't carry that. If you're a Packer

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Speaker 2: fan today, you may not feel awful about it. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a good feeling to hear, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur is coming back, especially with what happened in

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Speaker 2: that bad taste in your mouth on Saturday night. How

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Speaker 2: does an outcome like that, a heartbreaking defeat, affect that

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Speaker 2: long term decision?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think this is a very emotional game. That's why.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's not great to make big, wide

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Speaker 6: ranging decisions the day after a game, despite how that

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Speaker 6: went yesterday. So unless that's been a huge pattern, which

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't call a huge pattern of having games like that,

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Speaker 6: I think he's day, of course, but I think it's important.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's under contract for next year, so if

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Speaker 6: he's somebody that the Packers want back, it's not like

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Speaker 6: you need to do this extension by tomorrow. You can

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Speaker 6: take a little bit of time here and then get

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Speaker 6: to the table and figure out what the right number is.

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Speaker 6: But if they feel good about him moving forward, I don't,

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Speaker 6: like I said, I don't think there's any urgency that, hey,

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Speaker 6: we have to have a contract done by Wednesday. But

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Speaker 6: I guess we'll kind of see how that plays out.

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Speaker 5: Tom Let's let's put it to the other the other

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Speaker 5: side and the other team that had that miraculous comeback

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Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter to beat Matt Lafleur and the Packers.

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Speaker 5: And I want to talk about the relationship of Ben

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Speaker 5: Johnson and the owner. They had a conversation about, you know,

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Speaker 5: the talk and the handshakes and and some of the

847
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Speaker 5: chatter coming out of Chicago as far as Ben Johnson

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Speaker 5: and kind of reigniting that rivalry, lighting the fire under

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Speaker 5: that rivalry again and the ownip and you know, GM

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Speaker 5: standing behind Ben Johnson and some of the antics that

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Speaker 5: he's had towards Lafleur and the Packers. Do you see

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00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: that as a problem moving forward or do you just

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Speaker 5: see it as competitive fire? Like, what's your take on

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Speaker 5: that situation.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely competitive fire. I mean, if I keep

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Speaker 6: saying it's an emotional business, it's football. It's competitive. You're

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Speaker 6: trying to rut and beat the other team. Now, if

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Speaker 6: you wanted to have professional respect and that that goes

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Speaker 6: to you know, post game, when you're shaking hats to

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Speaker 6: keep hands, you need to handle that a professional way.

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Speaker 6: But as far as having a rivalry with the team

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Speaker 6: and using certain things to get your team motivated, that's

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Speaker 6: been going on since George Hallis was the head coach

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Speaker 6: of the Bears, so different. I don't think it's any

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Speaker 6: different with any Bears coach has been there to say, Look,

866
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 6: I don't like the Packers. I think that's completely normal.

867
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 6: There's robberies all across this league. But you got to

868
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 6: make sure you have a professional respect for the people

869
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 6: you compete against. And that includes, you know, a post

870
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 6: game handshake to me. But as far as you know

871
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 6: rivalry and not like inner teams, that's just the nature

872
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: of sports.

873
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: He's carried road Tom dan Beyer being joined by Tom Telesco,

874
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: former general manager of the Chargers and Raiders, joining us

875
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 2: here as he does every Monday on Fox Sports Radio

876
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: throughout the NFL season. I want to turn our attention

877
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. Where would you start in assessing and starting

878
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: to assess this offseason for the Eagles? Is it at

879
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator? Is it with the head coach? Is it

880
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: with Aj Brown? Where do you start If you're a

881
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman, Well.

882
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 6: You talk about patterns and where you are and their offense.

883
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 6: Really for the whole year, you're getting the playoffs and

884
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 6: all your weaknesses are usually exposed because the games are

885
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 6: bigger that the teams are playing are better and all

886
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 6: year their passing offense just had a really hard time

887
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 6: converting on third down extending drives, and it showed up

888
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 6: in the playoffs against a forty Niners team who's playing

889
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: outstanding as a team, but man, they're decimated due to

890
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 6: injuries and the fact that the Eagles really just still

891
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: could not move the ball through the air and convert

892
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 6: on third down. So you know, they've went from having

893
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: Kellen Moore's or offensive coordinator. Kellen's outstanding and he's done

894
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 6: it for a number of years and we're proven commodity,

895
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 6: and they went to their their coordinator this year who

896
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 6: was look, he was inexperience. I've never done the job before,

897
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 6: but he saw a whole year of body of work

898
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 6: and knowing where their team is talent wise and where

899
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 6: they are, I'm sure they're having probably really hard discussions

900
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 6: today about, you know, what we do on the offensive

901
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 6: side of balls, specifically what we do with the coordinator

902
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 6: to get back to where we need to be, and

903
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 6: those conversations I can guarantee you are happening this morning

904
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: and they'll take it from there.

905
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 5: Tom, I want to talk about a team that was

906
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 5: kind of disappointed me in this in this playoff run,

907
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 5: obviously one and done, a team that's kind of been

908
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 5: you know, decimated by injury as well, but most of

909
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: these teams are at this point, and that's the Chargers.

910
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 5: And I was excited to see you know, Herbert in

911
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 5: the playoffs and you know, kind of get that monkey

912
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 5: office back and get a win. But they just they

913
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 5: looked befuddled. I mean it looked like they had no answers.

914
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 5: Herbert was confused, couldn't couldn't really decipher what New England

915
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 5: was running coverage wise, and really had their coordinators had

916
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 5: no answer to the test to get to get to him.

917
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 5: So where do you start with the Chargers and how

918
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 5: do you fix that situation out here in La.

919
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've been a resilient team this year that they've

920
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 6: i mean, everybody fights through injury, but you know, they

921
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: had probably a higher percentage than most of some some

922
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 6: very important players an offense, including both starting tackles, but

923
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: they've been able to overcovercome it. And then yesterday, I

924
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 6: mean they did not play along offense. There's no way

925
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 6: you can you can, you know, look any other way

926
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 6: than and Justin didn't play well.

927
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Either.

928
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 6: But when when the running game weren't getting less than

929
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 6: three yards of carry and then they were. They had

930
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: some clean pockets and Justine, you know, normally pretty decisive

931
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 6: with the football, but it just didn't like there wasn't

932
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 6: much open and there was just zero big plays in

933
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 6: that passing game because you look on the other side,

934
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 6: like Drake May. Like Drake May took five sacks, he

935
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 6: had an interception, put two balls on the ground, lost

936
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 6: the fumble, but he made that big threat to Hunter

937
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 6: Henry for the touchdown. And you know, everythink Stem seems

938
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 6: like it's fine. So but look at I look back.

939
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 6: I was at the Colts for a long time and

940
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 6: it took Peyton Manning six years to win his first

941
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 6: playoff game, including in year five, and I remember that specifically,

942
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 6: sitting in the press box with the Colts. We lost

943
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 6: the Jets forty one to nothing in a wildcard game

944
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 6: in year five, and everyone was saying that Peyton Manning

945
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 6: just isn't good enough to win the big game. And

946
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: obviously everything took off from there. So Justin will be

947
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 6: back next year. Hopefully it'll be a team that's a

948
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 6: little less injured. But they got to figure out. This

949
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: is you know, last year against the Texans in the playoffs,

950
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: the same thing. The offenses did that play well in

951
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 6: big games, So they got to figure out how we're

952
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: going to get around that next year.

953
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: See Dan, we want some game with the Jets.

954
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: It's the thing the way back in the day, way

955
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: back in the day, he has carried roads. I've dan

956
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: byered Tom Telesco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

957
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to just use the NFC just because all

958
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: of their games are done for wild Card weekend. But

959
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: now that we know that the NFC is down to

960
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: for who do you like? Who impresses you? Who do

961
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: you have a good feeling about of this now fourteen bracket.

962
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: We know Seattle didn't play, but the Niners, Rams, and

963
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: Bears did pick up wins this past weekend. Who do

964
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: you like in the NFC?

965
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 6: You know, I like the Rams still that And I'm

966
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 6: not just say next to live out in Los Angeles.

967
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 6: There's just you know, a veteran coach, veteran quarterback, really

968
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 6: well coached defense. I thought the Panthers played an outstanding game,

969
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 6: and I really do think that came down to that

970
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 6: the Rams had been in those situations many times before

971
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: and they and they executed when they had to. Now

972
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 6: they have their negatives, like their special teams has been

973
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 6: a problem for the Rams all year, and I showed

974
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 6: up in a playoff game and luckily they were able

975
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 6: to withstand that. But I think with their they have

976
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 6: a lot of death and offense in terms of who

977
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: they could throw the ball to, whether it's the receivers

978
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 6: where there's the backs of the backfield or the tight ends.

979
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 6: Baffer's playing outstanding and I just love what Chris Schule

980
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 6: is doing with the defense. So for me, I like

981
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 6: them on this side. We'll see how the how the

982
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 6: Seahawks end up coming out out its number one seed.

983
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 6: But the Rams are the team I've watched all year

984
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 6: and just been really impressed on them on both sides

985
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 6: of the ball.

986
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's the Rams are carry my team as well.

987
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 5: I think they're the most talent answering Tom just over

988
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 5: the fall, but no, there you go, Tom. Well let's

989
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: talk about the AFC before you get out of here

990
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 5: as well. And I know we just talked about the

991
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 5: NFC being the four teams being determined, but we got

992
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 5: a game tonight the Houston Texans versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously,

993
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh uh has one enough to get into into the

994
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 5: playoffs and have a home playoff game. But Houston comes

995
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 5: in hot, similar to Jacksonville came in hot and Jacksonville

996
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 5: lost that first game. What does Houston need to do

997
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 5: today tonight to avoid that same situation happened for them?

998
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 6: For them, just score enough points to win the game.

999
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 6: That's that's the thing. Because third defense is out standing.

1000
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 6: I mean every team has their weakness somewhere, but on

1001
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 6: their defense that you just you can't really find it.

1002
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 6: Between their secondary, to their linebackers to the front, they

1003
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 6: do everything really well. They rush the passer well, they're

1004
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 6: excellent on third down, they create turnovers at a higher rate.

1005
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 6: So to me, it's just about the Texans offense just

1006
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 6: getting enough points. I mean, this could be a seventeen

1007
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 6: fourteen to seventeen ten game. I watch you end up

1008
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 6: being a complete for her. But I just I just

1009
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: think that the Texans are defense is they're hard to

1010
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 6: score on. So he just got to get Now the

1011
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 6: Texas offense, they don't run the ball particularly well, and

1012
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 6: I like what he marks. I think he's got some

1013
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 6: really good ability, but they just haven't run at a

1014
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 6: real efficient rate, so they got to rely on their

1015
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 6: passing game. The Steelers defense has been up and down

1016
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 6: this year, but we know the Steers can rush the passer.

1017
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 6: So we'll see how this plays out. But I would

1018
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 6: expect a low scoring game, and the Texans just got

1019
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 6: to score enough, you know, between their offense and their

1020
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 6: kicking games, to come out.

1021
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: With a win. All right, I've got one last one

1022
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: and it has nothing to do with the games that

1023
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: we had. It's the games coming up schedule wise. How

1024
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: when do you hear? Like we found out last night

1025
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: the games are going to be on Saturday and the

1026
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: games that are going to be on Sunday, but we

1027
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: still don't know the times. How frustrating is that. Do

1028
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: you guys get a heads up in the front office

1029
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: on when you're gonna play where you know how that

1030
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: schedule is going to set up? Because I know Kyle

1031
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: Shanahan said, gosh, I hope you don't play on Saturday,

1032
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: but they'll probably have us play on Saturday. And well,

1033
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: and behold, they're playing on Saturday. But what are the

1034
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: emotions in dealing with an unknown playoff schedule? As you

1035
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: go through this bracket.

1036
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you try not to focus enough that it's hard

1037
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 6: not to, but you know that the team tides up

1038
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 6: is usually maybe only an hour or two before it's

1039
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: released to the public, so you don't know. Obviously, it's

1040
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 6: all TV based. I know one year with the Chargers,

1041
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 6: we had a playoff game at Baltimore. We won that game,

1042
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 6: we flew back home and then we had a short

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 6: week to play out in New England and play out

1044
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 6: New England. But honestly, once you get to the playoffs,

1045
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 6: you kind of have the mentality of it doesn't matter

1046
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 6: when it doesn't matter where we'll go now from that's

1047
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 6: the mentality that the head coach that players have to

1048
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 6: have as a GM. You can call it complain, but Dan,

1049
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 6: it doesn't do anything. It doesn't mean anything. So in

1050
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 6: the end, at this point of the year, most of

1051
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 6: the prep is mental. Most of the prep is game planning.

1052
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 6: At least for San Francisco. They've played the Seahawks already twice.

1053
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 6: They know them well and physically, you know, you're not

1054
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 6: gonna die in practice. You're gonna be a little bit lighter,

1055
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 6: You'll have one last day recovery, but hey, This is

1056
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 6: the nature of the beastis the way the playoffs are.

1057
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 6: And yeah, you may get, you know, a little bit

1058
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 6: of complaints for a little bit, but then you got

1059
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 6: to focus on that task at hand, all right.

1060
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Former gam of the Chargers and Raiders, Tom Telasco joining

1061
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 2: us on Fox Sports Radio. Tom, appreciate it, Enjoy next

1062
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: the next round of the playoffs. We'll talk to next week.

1063
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: I have a go wing Tom avery time.

1064
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: Thanks to join a game tonight.