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Speaker 1: Yeah, wrap it up podcast, Li Wilson, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Talk to him? Talk to him. Season two is going

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Speaker 2: pretty nicely. No man looking on the up and up. Man,

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Speaker 2: I can't complain.

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Speaker 3: Was you just woman? Man?

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Speaker 1: Ari Melburgh talking about the Tyler I missed that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you missed that. The cameras man, what got this shot?

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Speaker 2: The PJ didn't have an MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Shout to Ari Melburgh. I returned on his show The

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Speaker 2: Beat and you know, talked about all things rap Radar

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Speaker 3: I get some clips out there, man, I ain't see

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Speaker 3: no clips yet.

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Speaker 2: It's coming up. It's coming up. But he liked the

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Speaker 2: taler joint. Yeah, he really enjoyed the taler Uh create

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Speaker 2: a conversation and he was, uh, he was really impressed

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Speaker 2: by it. And the fact that he says that, you know,

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Speaker 2: you get all the guys that we want on the

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Speaker 2: beat list talent the beat, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You gotta get them down with that Rap Raidar podcast.

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Speaker 1: But a shout out to Ari for sure. He always

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Speaker 1: a big supporter.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You think you think we said the bar to high

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Speaker 1: with that talent thing? Is the whole season going to

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Speaker 1: be us having to live up to the hype of Taler, right.

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Speaker 2: I think we're doing pretty all right. Man. This guy

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Speaker 2: is doing his he's doing his own numbers as well.

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Speaker 1: Man, Conway man his first time Grizelda Conway himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not not with his brothers BA. This is his

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Speaker 2: Won't he do it? Do it?

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Speaker 1: It's funny. After we had a conversation, he fucking broke

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Speaker 1: his leg. That's his body fell apart. Man, it's a

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Speaker 1: six million dollars man, he's working too odd out here, Conway, damn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he seems like he's recovering now. I seen him

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And of course the show must go on because

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Speaker 2: you know, I think initially he canceled the tour dates,

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Speaker 2: pushed it back a little bit, right, So he's gonna,

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Speaker 2: you know, hit the road. It looks like maybe this fall,

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Speaker 1: So and Knway wants to make sure and his albums

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Speaker 1: down in that end of the year conversation, man, do it.

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Speaker 1: It's a tough year, man, competitive right now with these

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Speaker 1: rap albums. I think so, man, But you know, Conway

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Speaker 1: got a chance. You know, we'll see in December. And

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Speaker 1: you know every time we get with the Grizzla, any

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Speaker 3: This magic.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you should you should expect no less though.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely he gave a really good conversation talk about things

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Speaker 2: that he's never heard or talked about in the previous conversations,

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Speaker 2: about Kanye West and his relationship with Westside Gun and

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Speaker 1: A lot of clarity, moment of clarity, a lot of

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Speaker 1: clarity in this in this episode, for sure, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he had the hoigh Street continues, Man,

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Speaker 1: we got one of the hottest podcasts and movements right now.

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Speaker 1: You got to understand, you got to stand we're not

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Speaker 1: playing the season two is special, yes, sir. That for like,

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Speaker 1: the whole first season we did was like kind of

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Speaker 2: Holy feel that was our demo.

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Speaker 2: So you know, consistency, man, that's all we need. And

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Speaker 1: Here we are, man, We're gonna stay consistent. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: stay give me these quality conversations.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know we always made magic with these guys.

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Speaker 1: One of the big forces from the Grisel the movement,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need my Rosetta Stone.

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Speaker 1: And he got that drum Wark compilation coming to you know,

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Speaker 1: Man, we had a full studio, man, everybody for Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the stylists too. I forget the young

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Speaker 2: Type to cover the album. Yeah, I saw it. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we're getting dollars. Two were getting conversation for

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Speaker 1: our conversations.

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Speaker 2: Beat us.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, man, Yes, Sir Conway, and to

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Speaker 1: rap rate all podcasts. Yeah, you have to rap rate

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Speaker 1: all podcasts. My name is beat out, Elliott Wilson, Ellie.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good Man, seeing this man Man successful.

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Speaker 3: This guy Conway, the machine.

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Speaker 1: The machine is economist today mainally a solo Conway episode podcasts.

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Speaker 4: Man, thank y'all Man first and for most Man, I've

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Speaker 4: been waiting to get my soul, my shine for real,

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it well deserved me.

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Speaker 2: Got the new project out, won't he do it? Ah?

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Speaker 3: You know, don't marginalize me.

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Speaker 4: Don't marginalize me till I'm out of my moment, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this shit, don't stop.

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Speaker 4: This ship don't stop, man, because you know, I think

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. And it's like that for me, Wes

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Speaker 1: Say, like who else could give me six projects like

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, it's you know, I mean, it speaks for itself,

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Speaker 4: even I feel like it's another chance to do something good.

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Speaker 4: Conway Cares Charity and the Drum Work Fast and stuff

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Speaker 4: Won't he do it?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like are you a man of faith?

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Speaker 2: Because on a cow you said you're not religious, right,

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Speaker 2: Like is that your intention?

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, all the Tanner talks, all the you know,

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Speaker 2: You'll know.

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Speaker 4: I'm the motherfuckering nigga that made this shit attractive again.

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Speaker 4: that's getting to prayer, y'all. Niggas be putting on y'all

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Speaker 3: Niggas is the niggas is niggas.

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Speaker 3: He made this ship look good again. Man, because you.

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Speaker 1: Were saying like you felt like you was like everybody's

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Speaker 3: And if you ain't inspiring this, then who who are you?

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Speaker 4: them niggas type beats and going in they niggas. They

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like, yo, I'm gonna take because

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I had one leg up niggas, some wallabes, two toned

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Speaker 4: we I look at it like a plus for I

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Speaker 4: of where like on some like Steph Curry ship, like

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Speaker 4: he didn't invent the three point shot, but he made

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Speaker 3: And now everybody, you know.

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Speaker 4: At every level of basketballs chucking threes from the logo.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool at quarters, like you wear

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Speaker 1: clips of like combat jacket niggas that was say earlier

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Speaker 1: about you guys, Like why was it important to include that.

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Speaker 3: For the song?

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Speaker 4: Because I wanted you know, these is the the type

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Speaker 3: You get hecklers. Shit, even Lebron James get hecklers, you

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Speaker 4: So you get people you know, Oh man, it ain't

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Speaker 4: you know this album we that this that like, you know,

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Speaker 4: I really don't care when nobody think. But certain people

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Speaker 4: tell the home He's like, man, these niggas ain't so

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Speaker 4: cracking the nineties. They ain't gonna My music ain't for them,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, they ain't gonna relate

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Speaker 4: to me. But somebody like you know, Clark Kent. You

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Speaker 3: Out of Buffalo is crazy.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Combat Jack Rep, my man

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Speaker 4: rag A King Resting, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: There's several other people.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, recipes ho Vein, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Recipes my brother Hovein. Man, there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of people. It's like people like that O payon

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Speaker 3: That to Y'ALLT them niggas. Y'allt them niggas.

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Speaker 1: Then a comment on a Gram from a fake page

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Speaker 1: So it was important to highlight that and just to

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Speaker 1: giving them they flowers too. Clark Can't and my man

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Speaker 1: redg Like you know, it was the first two that

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Speaker 1: like I remember being that wave. I remember vividly being

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Speaker 1: I think we got to show it like s OB's

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Speaker 3: Was twenty fifty and some shit like that.

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Speaker 4: So I just wanted to give flowers to them two dudes,

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Speaker 2: But you definitely wrestle with credit, right Like even on

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Speaker 2: brick Fair you talk about like how you hate you

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Speaker 2: So it's like, do you feel like you struggle with

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Speaker 3: I do. I do, because it's really, you know, both

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Speaker 4: I look at it like a nigga, like like like

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Speaker 4: you know, Shaq was upset he didn't get an MVP

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Speaker 4: I don't love Steve Nash, or I don't love you know,

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Speaker 4: where I'm ready to like just then fucking I can't

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Speaker 3: Like it ain't that.

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Speaker 4: But of course, because you work so hard at your craft,

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Speaker 3: To be the best, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So like if I'm not mentioned up there, like I

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Speaker 3: It's like what a nigga got to strive for? You

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Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, I be needing little challenges

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I just I just.

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Speaker 3: All have that, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And we just want to be the best, you know

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Speaker 4: I wanted to I just wanted to be the best.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to win the talent shows. I wanted to win.

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Speaker 3: That's why I won every battle I've ever been in

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Speaker 4: That type stuff. It's like, I just want to win.

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Speaker 4: I want to be the I don't want to just win.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I really want that.

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Speaker 4: As a kid everything, I just was a young knucklehead

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Speaker 4: like without my potential.

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00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,199
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's why I'm thankful for

439
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 3: some of.

440
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 4: The OG's in the hood that I had, you know

441
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that kind of like yo, bro, you know,

442
00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 4: show me and assure me, like man, you you bro,

443
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,439
Speaker 4: you got something here, bro, if you really you know,

444
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 4: get in your bag, like shot out my bro spoons.

445
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 4: You know, I'm always getting my bro spoons his flowers

446
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 4: in the hood because you know, he.

447
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 3: Was, you know, in the streets doing his thing.

448
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 4: But he'll take his street money and shit and go

449
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 4: be buying like studio equipment and shit, and didn't know

450
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 4: nothing about recording or how to play an instrument or

451
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: make a beat or anything.

452
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 3: And really like went.

453
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 1: To school and classes and bought all that stuff just

454
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: for me, like for us the homies in the hood.

455
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 3: That was, you know, getting busy.

456
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 4: He didn't have to do that, but he was just

457
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 4: showing us, like, yo, bro y'all, it's a lot of y'all,

458
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 4: can man take it there?

459
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: You feel me?

460
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 4: So it always been in me like that, man, Like

461
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 4: I just I just I just want to be the

462
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 4: best dog. I just want to be talked about it

463
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 4: that in that laying in that bracket because I feel

464
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 4: like I put enough for the work in. Man, I

465
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 4: feel like I'm a hard worker. I'm serious about my craft,

466
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 4: and I'm nice, Like I feel like I'm nicer than niggas.

467
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 4: There's so many people out there, dog that can fuck

468
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 4: with me. I was just joking with whole, like sending

469
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 4: them some ship, like niggas can't fuck with me besides you.

470
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 3: The second text, I was like, nah, man, don't leave me.

471
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

472
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: But I'm just like that, just my spirit man, fuck that.

473
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that nigga. I want to

474
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 1: be that top dog man.

475
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: You talk about jay Z on Monogram, one of the

476
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: highlights on the album, and there's a part I Liverpally.

477
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: You say, like you ask he asked you about Drum

478
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: Drum Work Fest, And yeah, I asked you do you

479
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 2: own it?

480
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 3: Right?

481
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: Did you do you understand what he meant by that question? Initially?

482
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did.

483
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 4: I definitely did, like and you know, I appreciate that

484
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: that It just honestly, it really just showed me like

485
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: why he is what he is and he you know,

486
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 4: like at the level he ad because that's really how

487
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: you need to be thinking when you starting something and

488
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: doing something and creating something.

489
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: No matter what it.

490
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 4: Is, you should you should own it or at least

491
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 4: the biggest piece of it type, you know what I'm saying.

492
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 4: So the fact that the first thing that was the

493
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: first question, like, yo, man, I'm trying to you know,

494
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: I got this, I'm about to do year two.

495
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You own it? You know

496
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's kind of you know what was

497
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: your response?

498
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I'm making quiet noise out here, man, but

499
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: it's got to bug you out because you guys are

500
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: build a solid connection now, like a solid friendship. Remember

501
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: that first clip of when you did the show in

502
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 1: LA and you had an emotional moment and you could

503
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: to see you know, you guys connected, and now you've

504
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: built this swing a port.

505
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: With him man whole.

506
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's you know, I just appreciate

507
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: good people, you know what I'm saying. And you know

508
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 4: what I man, I just try to get people. They

509
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 4: flowers and they respect and acknowledge them for being great,

510
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 4: a great person, you know what I'm saying. And I

511
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: mean I have no no business with Hoole like we

512
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: ain't got no nothing. There's no incentive for the love

513
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 4: he been showing me, you know what I'm saying. That

514
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 4: just tell me a lot. And you know, I just

515
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: I just fuck with Bro like you know, you know

516
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 4: I got love for Bro.

517
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: Another person from that camp too. You get flowers to

518
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: is uh Kanye West on the app? Right, you even

519
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: have a song dedicated to Kanye. Why did you do that?

520
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 3: Same reason?

521
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: You know, just acknowledging you know what I'm saying, Like,

522
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: you know, there's no it was no incenter for the

523
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: love the type of love. Them dudes showed me, Bro,

524
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm just one of them type of dudes. Man, We're like,

525
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 4: you know, my brothers is all in here. They'll tell you,

526
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: like the type of person I am, Dog, I try

527
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 4: to reciprocate the love as much as possible. And I

528
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: don't like asking for favors and shit like that. We

529
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 4: don't talk every day and shit like that. But I

530
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 4: just want to make it clear, you know what I

531
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 4: mean to to the to the world, to everybody whoever listening, Like,

532
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 4: that's my man, straight up.

533
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: What was it like going from backing up work to

534
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: the college dropout to recording at his wrench? Was that

535
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 2: experience like.

536
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: Dream come true? The dream come true?

537
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 4: Man?

538
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: And you know, just no, damn man, won't he do it.

539
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: Like life?

540
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's funny like that. Man, You go full circle. Man,

541
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

542
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: You go from like I said, like bagging up in

543
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 1: the spot to listening to college drop out to you know,

544
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: working on music and ship at his house.

545
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, God is God is the greatest man.

546
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: What's he like in person? I never I don't think

547
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: I've met Kanye, but like, what are the conversations like

548
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: with him, h.

549
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: Man, it's a good dude. He's very uh outspoken.

550
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: You know what I say.

551
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

552
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 4: Like now what you see in the media ain't ship

553
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 4: right like Nigga in the room. He he you know,

554
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 4: he just he got so much idea. I've never seen

555
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 4: nobody with this many like ideas and ship.

556
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: And it ain't like it's not influenced by nothing, no

557
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: drugs and none of that.

558
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 3: Ship. It's like he just be silk ya.

559
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: Well yo, we should just be like he just real

560
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: real with those ideas he just gifted, man, and you

561
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: get a lot of jewels and ship just kicking it

562
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: and being around around yeah, and just watching him create.

563
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: It's just like it's a real treat. Like, damn dog,

564
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: this dude is a genius for me, a genius man.

565
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna tell you, like I'm gonna be honest,

566
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: like I don't know if he want me to.

567
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it ain't no no big deal.

568
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: So I was at the ranch one time and I

569
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 4: was playing him, God don't make mistakes. Before I had

570
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 4: dropped it, before it came out of shit. I was

571
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 4: just like the records I collected for it and the

572
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: record Stress came on.

573
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know that third verse

574
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: I talk about how you know how how I was.

575
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: On that bottle. You know what I mean, I was

576
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: drinking mark, you know, shipping. I'm getting nice, you know what,

577
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 4: I man A day and ship and how to you know,

578
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm just giving my perspective of what I'm dealing with

579
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: with that.

580
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 3: And he heard that ship and he didn't say nothing.

581
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: You know, he just got up and walked out the rule.

582
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: I'm like.

583
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: Feeling that ship, you know what I man, Nigga came

584
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: back and gave me like an autographed alcohol anonymous book.

585
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah read that. I love that record.

586
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: That shit I felt that da you know what I man.

587
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 4: And we had a whole different conversation that I don't

588
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: want to share. But it's just stuff like that and

589
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: just be like, bro, we ain't have to you know

590
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, I'm just different, man, I guess

591
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: cause I'm older, and you know, I never had nothing.

592
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So to just to be

593
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: the guy to receive it's just you know, like, man,

594
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: why are you doing that.

595
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: While you're showing me that love? Like while you have

596
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: me coming out here to be on an album.

597
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I barely got you know

598
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: what I'm saying a hundred thousand followers like I ain't.

599
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: I ain't even I'm not. I ain't on a radio

600
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: or club or none of that. Like you saw that

601
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 3: in me.

602
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, and not just reciprocate

603
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: the love. You know what I mean to answer right

604
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: that question, it's.

605
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: The gratitude exactly.

606
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: I'm big on that, you know what I'm saying.

607
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think about like those moments in your life

608
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: and going back to like God don't make mistakes. You

609
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: said that the story of your life got wild chapters right,

610
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: like would have been some of the most memorable.

611
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: Ship like that, you know what I mean, going to

612
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 4: the ranch, you know, performing my Ship in front of

613
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: you know, at that time, was the biggest crowd at

614
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: the novel in LA and you know, breaking down on

615
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: and having that moment you know where I just broke

616
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: down thinking about Shanegun, you know, performing the car is

617
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: it always been a It was a tough record recording it.

618
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: I cry recording it, you know what I'm saying. At

619
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 4: Darren your house, I cry every time out there and

620
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 4: I perform it and having that moment and then looking

621
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: up and just meeting whole for the first time at

622
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: that moment, and shit is like, No, that's one another moment,

623
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 4: you know what I'm.

624
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: Saying, Uh, having that shit on in Paris and that's beautiful.

625
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: You know, that's another moment.

626
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: What's she familiar with you? Maybe?

627
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: I think she when she smoked that cologne I had,

628
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: she know I was somebody.

629
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 2: It was that moment at the Rock Nation brunch we

630
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: met Beyonce.

631
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, now Rihanna too, right, that was the one

632
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 4: that right there too. Yeah, that was that was That

633
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 4: was a moment right there. And I had that ship

634
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 4: on again. Yeah, that's dressed at the rock brunch.

635
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 2: You know who would have thought?

636
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Man, So you got so that we said you don't

637
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: put the drip on the grammar anymore because Castle tried to.

638
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: I had to stop that ship, Elliott man, you know

639
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: what I man?

640
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: That was why I was caught a few of these

641
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: rap niggas like yeah with the fire emojis, Yeah, you

642
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: got that ship on twin you know, I say these

643
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: niggas with the you know, with with the same ship

644
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: on another color or some of these niggas mold would

645
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: be the same color, sneaker everything.

646
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Like damn, man, I am.

647
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm the guy from Buffalo wrapping

648
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: over saying drummless sample you want to I don't want

649
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: to bother.

650
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Me, dressed like Conway whever thought you know, man, i'd

651
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: be taking pictures with Rihanna and them and having that

652
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: ship on.

653
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Man.

654
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: I never was a bomb, you know, illustrious career in

655
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: the streets. I never I never looked chips that fact.

656
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: Man, this ain't no big ships.

657
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a real accurate depiction of Buffalo in

658
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: that documentary for Rick James. I was surprised to see

659
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: you there too when you saw that, of course I did.

660
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: I say, wait, that's Conway and he was talking about Buffalo.

661
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: And that was dope for me too, man, even because

662
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: you know, I'm so inspired by Rick James. You know,

663
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: Rick James is to me one of the like, you know,

664
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: the greatest you know musicians to ever live and create

665
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: these just an innovator, a trailblazer and icons and he's

666
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: from Buffalo, you know what I mean. So right, you

667
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, he reped it. You definitely repped

668
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: the bigtime. He buried and he got buried buried in

669
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Buffalo and all that.

670
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: It's a ghettle for real.

671
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: So somebody said that that Buffalo is like the most

672
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: second most segregated city in America.

673
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 3: It is. It is.

674
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: It is like you know, everybody stay where they be,

675
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like white people stay over there,

676
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: Black people stay over there, Spanish, different ethnicity, so on,

677
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 4: so forth. Like it's crazy that the racial dynamic and

678
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: everything is like it it's so profound in Buffalo. It's

679
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: just like you know, you'll be amazed, you know what

680
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: I man, You know, to be it to come from

681
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: Buffalo and no matter what it is you do and

682
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: you into if you may take it out of there. Man,

683
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 4: you know, that's applaudable in itself, you know what I mean.

684
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: I think that's why so many people from the city

685
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: is proud of us and how we made it and

686
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: did it, because you know, it's tough, man, you know

687
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, just you know, a lack of support

688
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: the segregate, not the racist bullshit and all that shit, man,

689
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: you know, and it's it's difficult racism because you know,

690
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: they ain't about to just uh, you know, walk past

691
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 4: you and be like, get.

692
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: Out of my way, nigger. You know what I mean.

693
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: They gonna smiling if you think we was good. But

694
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: these you know, they're gonna get caught in a text

695
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: message or something with the racial slurs, you know what

696
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean.

697
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: It's like, damn, I know you felt like that.

698
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: It's like hidden racism but blatant, if that makes sense,

699
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's I feel like

700
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: that's kind of a little more difficult to deal with

701
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: because I'd rather motherfucker tell me he don't like me.

702
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: At least I know, I'm just stay away from that

703
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: nigga you feel me rather than you know, thinking that

704
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 4: you fuck with me and you and you really the

705
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: whole time think the worst of me, you know what

706
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: I mean. That's tough to deal with. And just you know,

707
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: being poor. We also like the second or third poorest

708
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: city in America, so you got God on top of that,

709
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you know, it's tough

710
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: to create an environment in the streets. That's that's crazy,

711
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: like you know, with the streets ship.

712
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: But you love the city though you gave back two

713
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: hundred thousand during COVID giving out backpacks and things like

714
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: that for the for the residents.

715
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know all that.

716
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: The drummer Fest this year is dedicated and you know

717
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: we're doing it and paying homage and dedicating it to

718
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: the you know, the victims of the mass shooting at

719
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: the at the supermarket that happened last year. Some more

720
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 4: racist bullshit, That's what I'm saying. Like, you know, this

721
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: type of city where a white guy could just you know,

722
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: pull up to the only supermarket in the black, you know,

723
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 4: predominantly black neighborhood. It's the only supermarket in a around

724
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: in that area. You know what I'm saying, Uh it

725
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: full camouflage and body armor and just go in here

726
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: and just shoot a bunch of you know people, mothers

727
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 4: and grandmothers and fathers and shit. It just it devastated

728
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: the city, and you know, we still were still fucked

729
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 4: up about.

730
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: It, you know what I mean.

731
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: So you know, the drum work Fest is just you know,

732
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to just put a smile on faces

733
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: and just like you know, remote that black cloud and

734
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: that that stigma of like, yo, man, we can't make

735
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: it out.

736
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: Man. This shit is it's it's ugly is and now

737
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's because it's a beautiful

738
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: city with beautiful people, right, you know what I mean.

739
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: I just I just love the city and I just

740
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: always want to highlight it and represent it to the fullest.

741
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 3: Right, I'm proud to be from Buffalo.

742
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: Right. You mentioned your homie Spoon, right, like how you

743
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: supp which you growing up and things like that. And

744
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 2: on the Kanye track you said like your dreams are

745
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: very lofty and now your friends didn't believe in you. Right,

746
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: So what were some of those dreams that you thought

747
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: that you wanted to aspire? What do those look like?

748
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: The shit I'm doing now? You know what I'm saying,

749
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: I ain't had the belief and the outpouring of support

750
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: that I got now early on coming up doing this shit.

751
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: You know, Like I said in the next line, like

752
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: even like some family or project the fears on you

753
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: in superstitions, that's profound.

754
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: I feel like in the you know, in the hugs

755
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: and the you know, the black communities, like too often

756
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: we uh we talked somebody off a ledge with our

757
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: own fear of flying. You know what I'm saying, Just

758
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: because you don't think I can do it. Don't mean

759
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: I can't do it, you know what I'm saying. And

760
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 4: I've experienced that. I'm sure I'm not the only person

761
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: that's that experience that, and you know, had to just

762
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: keep you gotta just keep a pushing and just not care.

763
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: Nobody think. Man, give them something to talk about. They

764
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: even talked about Jesus.

765
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: But you just want to sell cocaine, man, That's why.

766
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: That's why I just wanted to sell cocaine forever. Nobody

767
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 2: criticized me for that, except for you know, the nosy

768
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: old ladies and Moucker, Jimmy Walker, Jimmy Reese and them niggas,

769
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: Johnny Walker and Jimmy reesing them niggas. But outside of Griselda,

770
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: you mentioned like drum Work Fest, right, you got drum Works.

771
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: That's the actual label. Can't explain music there you go,

772
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: drum work music. Can you talk about that label and

773
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: the artist that you spearheaded on it.

774
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm just it's a drum work. When I

775
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: did that and.

776
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: Started that for me, like I was, you know saying earlier,

777
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: I was, you know, partly kidding around about it, but

778
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: it's true. I was getting bored, you know what I'm saying,

779
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: And I was just dealing with I was bored and

780
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: I was dealing with a lot of I don't know

781
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 4: word for I'm gonna just say, like just negative bullshiting mentally.

782
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: And stuff, you know. And it just came from like.

783
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: A lot of different dysfunctions you know, in among in

784
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: the inner circle that you know, I already kind of

785
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: got in trouble for speaking on talking about and ship

786
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, And it just put

787
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: me in a place of depression and just like solitude

788
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: where IUD is there when you want to be bothered.

789
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to shut down everything, you know.

790
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I feel like I just

791
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 4: needed a new challenge. So I just you know, with

792
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 4: the drum Work label for me, I look at it

793
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 4: as just a new another challenge.

794
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Now.

795
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: That's why I got this new energy, is to prove

796
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: that you know, you know what I mean, this drum

797
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: Work ship can you know, can be can be a

798
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 4: giant in and this ship like a like a CMG,

799
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: like like a q see like you know, shit like that,

800
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like like a Griselda, you know,

801
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: what I mean, like, and it's the challenge for me

802
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: to see if I can just take you know, Jay

803
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 4: Skis Goose by the way shots ask you know what

804
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: I mean, unique in them niggas like I want to take.

805
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: I want to you know, I'm proven of myself that

806
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: I can do it.

807
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: So it's like it's just a challenge, you know what

808
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean that Like I was saying earlier, like on

809
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: some jor and shit, like you know what I mean.

810
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: His challenge was to come back and three Pete again,

811
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 4: like can I do that shit again? And that's what

812
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: made him come back out of that first you know, retirement.

813
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: That was his challenge, you know, Phil Jackson challenged him.

814
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: That's my challenge. That's what kind of made me come back.

815
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: And you know, because I already had the obligation to

816
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: drop the God Don't Make Mistakes the Shady album. But

817
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: had it not been for that, it would have been

818
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 4: a longer hiatus between my last album and this album.

819
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: Because I was in a fucked up space. Man.

820
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 4: I was in the after came to a guard and

821
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 4: you know that was around when I'm you know that

822
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 4: whole Ellen Lenovo and I'm working with Yay I'm working

823
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: with Diddy. I'm man, I'm having a you know, enjoying myself.

824
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 4: That's kind of when Ship kind of start going, start

825
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 4: spiraling downhill, and you know, I just realized that, you know,

826
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: I got some healing to do and some finding myself

827
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: to do, and you know, I'm finally getting there now

828
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: and getting to a place of peace and ship. A

829
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: lot of that is working with you know, having these

830
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: boys around. Man, they inspire you know that new wave,

831
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 4: like watching Skis you know, cook up, you know album

832
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: at the album so quick and spit like how he's

833
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: spitting and and doing what they doing, and you know

834
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 4: how these boys just you know look up to me

835
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: and count count on me to like, you know, man, bro,

836
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: now you that dude, you t.

837
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: Like, get out of that page. Bro, you gotta get out.

838
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: That's why I'm even here doing these interviews and ship.

839
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: I hate interviews. I hate shoot videos. I hate all

840
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: that ship like I hate kind of the camera and

841
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: like I think that came with after I got shot.

842
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: I just was always wanted to be the guy that

843
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: was in a cut in the room, like you know,

844
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 4: I'll be in the corner or something back there.

845
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: Like yo, shit, were machine or why are you good?

846
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: Bro?

847
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 4: Like I was always on that and I think that's

848
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: just a resulta you know, when I got shot.

849
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: Even with the Denver the clear I had process.

850
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you pick them through? Both places?

851
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: When we was on that tour, that was the one

852
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 4: that we met whole. I'm not sure if it was

853
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: that tour or another tour before that we did, but

854
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 4: both times we did Denver my manager Chad, you know,

855
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: like I said, I'm always I'm always trying to work

856
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: and get shipped, you know, get in the studio, even

857
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: in other cities. Shit, I like going to eat different

858
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: restaurants and foods in these cities, and I like to

859
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: record in different city because it's a different energy. And

860
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, find me a studio. I didn't want

861
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 4: to go cook And he found this lab. It's actually

862
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: called the lab, the studio.

863
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 3: It's like a.

864
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 4: Like an old like mechanic's garage and some shit that

865
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: they renovated and turned into a studio. It was like

866
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: in a cut behind like a gas station, and you

867
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't even know it's.

868
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: There if you you were right.

869
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: We rolled past it ten times looking at the navigation.

870
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: You know what I mean it's a cut like that,

871
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: and I liked that part of it, and you know,

872
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: the engineer was fired. Shout out my boy Rocky. I

873
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: just was for some reason. It was in a good space.

874
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: Dog.

875
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 4: I was knocking out five six songs, eight nine song like,

876
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: I was just going crazy.

877
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: We did a tape, Me and Goos did a tape.

878
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: In a day out there, like and I just recorded

879
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: so much music out there, and that's what kind of

880
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: gave birth to the won He Doer shit.

881
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: Just me getting back my peace of mind.

882
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: Like I was out there by myself, man, just you know, well,

883
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: you know, me and my pistol.

884
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: Girlfriend. I was, you know, I was out there.

885
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: I was going to the studio from ship sun up

886
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: the sundown. You feel me just locked in and I

887
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: just found like a space that I hadn't been there

888
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: since I was like recording at Darren jer house before,

889
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: you know, working on you know, Hitler tool, hit reject

890
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: tool and shit like that. Like I got back in

891
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: that bag and ship. That's how they Won't He Do

892
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: It birthed. I just kind of took like some of

893
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: the joints that made the most sense that the fourteen

894
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: ships that made the most sense.

895
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: And you know, painted that picture.

896
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: You don't write anything down neither right, some of the.

897
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: Stuff I wrote down.

898
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: You know, I got back into that, you know what

899
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And you know I credit that honestly to

900
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: going out there and watching how Yay work and watching

901
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 4: Diddy work.

902
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: And seeing how important it is to kind of like

903
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: take your time and just make make make music. Were

904
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: just making music.

905
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 4: So it's like I'm in a room watching doctor Dre

906
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: work and I I'm just in a room with.

907
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Just creatives, you know what I'm saying.

908
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: Of course, nobody's writing for me or none of that shit,

909
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 4: but we just bouncing around ideas.

910
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: And you know, you got the dude on a piano.

911
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: That's how like uh the Kanye record, Ate the dude

912
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: on the organ, man ride on the organ, Drea singing

913
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 4: shit like that is just I wanted to tap into

914
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: that bad just make music and not just get a

915
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 4: batch of beats email to me and go to booth.

916
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: And you know, already showed that I can make, you know.

917
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: What people would call fans would make saying it's a

918
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: classic in a day, like we done did that, We

919
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 4: did Haul and Nash in a day.

920
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We did?

921
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: You know we did some of them Hitler's in a day?

922
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: Wells went lying about that ship like we recorded them

923
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: ship is in a day? What was Shane gonna do?

924
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 4: I want to say it was maybe two days.

925
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about made the beat from scratch Darren Ja

926
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: and while we writing.

927
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: Or crafting, like we're still writing, wed just think of

928
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: it in our head until we rememberize it. Didn't go

929
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: on the booth and say it. You know what I'm saying.

930
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: But to answer your question, some of this ship, I

931
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 4: definitely picked up my phone because I was I wanted to.

932
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: I was inspired by.

933
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 4: How watching them, how they cooked, and it was like,

934
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: let me just let me think these bars out a

935
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 4: little more instead of just saying whatever the first ship

936
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: come to my head?

937
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite verse off the album?

938
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: The Kanye verse and the Won't He Do It? The

939
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 4: title the title track verse and that Twin Cross Twain

940
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: is different the Twin Cross Twins. I impressed myself.

941
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: On there, like God damn, I'm in that bag.

942
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 4: But you know that ship, I was saying the first

943
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: couple of bars of that uh, that Won't He Do It?

944
00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: Song?

945
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: Got the and got a bunch of shit on my mind.

946
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: Lady got so much good in my heart? Is like

947
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: why I hate me go out my way for these niggas.

948
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: They still violate me. Then going on the internet sneak

949
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: dish ince suf tweeting entitlement and jealousy when they see

950
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: my funds increasing, Man, because they fucked up. They bag

951
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: when they was eating, taking their frustrations out on me.

952
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, what's the reason?

953
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: Like Ship? Like that is just it's.

954
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: When I'm really spelling my heart in that both like

955
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 4: I'm really it's church.

956
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that stuff in the writing. I just

957
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: just care out of me. You feel me?

958
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: But uh that Kanye, I definitely wrote like the you

959
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying when you dyed? What you gonna

960
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: leave your kids? Some sneakers and bells? Acho, you wilding

961
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 4: like mar Sellers.

962
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

963
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 4: You know I'm on my sports show Ship and you

964
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: know you speak for yourself. You know they had to

965
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: show man Acho and you know my sellers, Wiley, you

966
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like Acho, you wilding like my sellers,

967
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: You speak for yourself and all that I can only

968
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 4: I can only get in that.

969
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 3: Bag when I take my time with right. You know,

970
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm getting too old for this.

971
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 2: You know, man, another sports figure that made the album,

972
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: shar Sharp, he's on the chosen.

973
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, shout out un man. You know I had

974
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 4: to have uncle part of this ship.

975
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know if you heard the record yet

976
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: or I doubt it it'll get too.

977
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully it gets to him.

978
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: I was down in Florida, actually, I was working on

979
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 4: so I'm doing the album, a full album.

980
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: With Justice League. It's already done.

981
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: It's just they putting the sprinkles and the cherries and

982
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: ship on.

983
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 3: Top of it.

984
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: But it's it's already done, already wrapped on it, and

985
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 4: you know, we're just getting some features sent there and

986
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 4: you know they doing the last minute little ship to it.

987
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: But anyway, I.

988
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: Recorded that song was supposed to be what's gonna be

989
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: on the Justice League tape, but I just made a

990
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 4: little adjustment like nah, this ship too fine.

991
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Executive decision.

992
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: So we recorded that in Miami and with Justice again,

993
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 4: Like I'm on that type of time now, the way

994
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: I want to be in the studio with the producer,

995
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: all of them and create and bounce ideas. Let's add

996
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: this at the end of that song. You know what

997
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: Conway think of? Think of something apart right here. You

998
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like some ship I might not

999
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: have thought of. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm

1000
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 4: big on like letting people get the ship off. Like

1001
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know everything. I don't want

1002
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: to be in the room. If I'm the smartest dude

1003
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: in the room, or I'm the richest.

1004
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 3: Dude in the room.

1005
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: Let's all eat, let's all create, and let's all have input.

1006
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: Because I might have missed something, you know what I'm saying,

1007
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 4: Like I would have missed uh the water the wine

1008
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: record had I not had Goose with me in Denver.

1009
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I was a batch of

1010
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: beasts my homie and E Jones sent you know Goose.

1011
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 4: Uh he he found.

1012
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: The beat, like he I fell asleep. You know what

1013
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm on shrooms and on.

1014
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: Type of shit and doze up. This nigga go I

1015
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: wake up and Ghost got his first and hook and

1016
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: everything to that beat. But he went in you see

1017
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and like.

1018
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: Helped guide me to with my verse, like gave me

1019
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: a direction. You know what I'm saying.

1020
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 4: And he wasn't there, I wouldn't have had that that

1021
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 4: raw ass record.

1022
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: You feel me.

1023
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: And you're also working with thirty eight, specially her. You

1024
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: guys got an album on the way, special Machinery.

1025
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah we did.

1026
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 4: Uh so I recorded some you know a bunch of

1027
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 4: verses and ship over that special spot.

1028
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: This is you know, a while ago or whatever. But yeah,

1029
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: we you know, we got some ship together.

1030
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: That's coming to this see it two, he said, like the

1031
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: summer maybe.

1032
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, it's up to them ship.

1033
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 4: I guess this summer, then it's up the dog. But special,

1034
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: ill nigga, you know what I'm saying. And got my

1035
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: full support right, and it's gonna be special, you know

1036
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: what I mean? No pun intended. It was up here

1037
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: in Ransom the joint exactly like I wanted to me

1038
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: and Ransom, you know, we have been kind of like

1039
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: chopped it up and shipped. I ran into him a

1040
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: couple of times, and you know, we both had acknowledgement

1041
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 4: for you know, you know what we what we both

1042
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 4: do well, you know.

1043
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

1044
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 4: And it just was love and shinning. We always just

1045
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: had playing yo.

1046
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1047
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: We gotta knock, we gotta do something like nah facts,

1048
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: Well I got into that that space, you know what I.

1049
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Man, and and then even had writer's blocks and ship too.

1050
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: So once I got out of there and I recorded

1051
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: that stab I recorded that stabbed Doll ship my part

1052
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: in Denver, and I'm like, yo, I got sign ran

1053
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: what you know, Nigga sent that ship back like the

1054
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: next morning. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, stabbed out

1055
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: and fleshing. My flesh is meant to be like a

1056
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: connect like one song connected and same thing with like

1057
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: quarters and bruis a fixed you know, but just like

1058
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: late minute late game adjustments.

1059
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1060
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 2: I feel like when you in your bag, everybody knows

1061
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: it because there's this adet that I love to talk

1062
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: to him like what did that become this signature phrase?

1063
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: Like how did you know that that was gonna be

1064
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: a thing.

1065
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, when it was when I first

1066
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: did that ship, but I just you know, I just

1067
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: liked it, and I seen how people talk to like

1068
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 4: it was enjoying us. So I'm like, yo, I found something.

1069
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1070
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: Jada Kiss got to laugh. You got to talk to him.

1071
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.

1072
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: Hopefully my my shit be as iconic as you know,

1073
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: Kiss ad Lib and you know, Gucci, Mane Bird and

1074
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: all that. I also got the look look, yeah, that's

1075
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 4: what niggas know. I'm about to walk on water. Look,

1076
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 4: you know you already know, like, yeah, yeah, it's a

1077
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: missile coming. Yeah, I started the verse. I would look,

1078
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: it's a missile coming. It's a missile in a way.

1079
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: Dips used to do that a lot too, like look yeah, yeah,

1080
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 2: you know with all this stuff that you got going

1081
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: on though, Conway, I know the labels is knocking on

1082
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: your door.

1083
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: Man.

1084
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 2: You said that you you got off of the contract.

1085
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: You spit on it. Which label was it from? I

1086
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: don't know, man, you don't remember.

1087
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: No, the whole entire you know, music industry, you know,

1088
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 4: wants to fuck with the with the drum right now, man, fella,

1089
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 4: you know we're in a good space.

1090
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1091
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: You said thirty million, that's is that the magic number?

1092
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: Whatever makes sense?

1093
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Whatever makes sense, man, as long as long as long

1094
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: as the team is situated. Man, you know, but there's

1095
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: still good business with the great folks over the empire.

1096
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, good business, good bitiness. You know, should we

1097
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 4: just dropped that thing? You know what I'm saying. You know,

1098
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: we gotta we got cy B coming, a drum work

1099
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 4: compilation coming, We got still you know, a lot of

1100
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: business done, good business, you know, Shout out the Empire.

1101
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Shit, shout out to Shady.

1102
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say

1103
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: it enough. You know, I'm thankful for you know, for

1104
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 4: that opportunity, for them even taking a chance and fucking

1105
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 4: with us and giving us a shot. You know what

1106
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Shit, I have nothing bad to say, and

1107
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: Shito with the same with Griselda, with Wes Ain't nobody

1108
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 4: got nothing bad to say about Conway and the offices,

1109
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: you know, thankfully, you know what I mean. You know,

1110
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 4: I try to treat everybody with fairness and treat every

1111
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 4: situation with fairness. And I always like to finish what

1112
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: I start, you know what I'm saying. So and I

1113
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: want the best results too. So it's like my goal

1114
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: is the same as you know, whoever I'm doing to

1115
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: deal with and doing business with. So you know, I'm

1116
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 4: just I'm a good dude, and you know I'm thankful

1117
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: that people see that. And regardless of what should be

1118
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 4: looking like, you know, on the internet and stuff, or

1119
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 4: what I might get drunken. You know what I'm saying,

1120
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: Get on, get on live.

1121
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1122
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 4: Hey, you know I'm tough to deal with sometime. You know,

1123
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: even I'm flawed.

1124
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: You're a good dude. And you're also a good son,

1125
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: because you know, you talk about your mom a lot

1126
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: throughout your music. How she doing health wise?

1127
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: She's good man, She's good man.

1128
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 4: She you know, she had the heart to open heart

1129
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: surgery and stuff, but you know she patched up and

1130
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: you know she's doing good man, ladies around grandkids, you know,

1131
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: holding it down right.

1132
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: And she even made the album for God to make mistakes.

1133
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think be that like that got a mistakes album. Man,

1134
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: I got to make mistakes.

1135
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: I think God didn't know that, you know when I

1136
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: saw the listen, that's another we're talking about that later.

1137
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming home.

1138
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Nah, But yeah, I was dope having my mom on

1139
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: on that. I wanted her on on this album too.

1140
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: You know, Uh, the feet was too high.

1141
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday's price was not today's price.

1142
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Well, but she didn't she just didn't fit the sound

1143
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: of the album.

1144
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: No, you know, her health stuff, you know, man, she

1145
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: was dealing with that, and you know, we just didn't

1146
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: really have time to you know, so we worked one

1147
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: of them.

1148
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: I wanted her on funny enough to Kanye record, like

1149
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 4: just but the other side of it, like, you know,

1150
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: on God to make mistakes. It was like she was

1151
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: crying over my hospital bed when I got shot. This

1152
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: one was like, look at you now, man, God, Man,

1153
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: thank you man, look at you boy.

1154
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: You did it? You made it? Man, won't he do it?

1155
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: No?

1156
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 4: No, No, that was my idea for like the praise

1157
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 4: and get a glory, you know, because she's big on

1158
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: you know, religion and all that spirit. She's very spiritual,

1159
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: so I thought that would have been a dope moment

1160
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 4: for the album. But you know, she was dealing with

1161
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 4: the you know, the heart surgery and shit, and we

1162
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 4: just didn't We couldn't get it done in enough time.

1163
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: Right, And at the bottom of twenty twenty two, I

1164
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: know you your nephew passed away. I know that was

1165
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: a dark time for you as well. Yeah, how'd you

1166
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: put yourself out of that? That rut?

1167
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Man?

1168
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: Honestly be that man, I'm not sure if I have.

1169
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: You know, I just try not to think of it

1170
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 4: and just trying to just bury myself in the work.

1171
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: And it's fucked up, man. You know, I think you

1172
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 4: know I had. It's maybe like three three dudes. Man,

1173
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: that's like, you know, its just super super close to me.

1174
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: And you know I known them for a very very

1175
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: long time. Man, So I was you know, I was

1176
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 4: a little teenager saying ten eleven, twelve years old, seventh

1177
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: grade and shit, you know what I'm saying, My broke,

1178
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 4: my broke, we call him prick, my bro Chris James.

1179
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 4: You know he got he lost his life, you know

1180
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Uh, last year during all that. Then

1181
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: right after that, uh you know Chef Dre. You know,

1182
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 4: this is one of my best friends in the world,

1183
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Uh, his son lost his life.

1184
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: You know, my that's my nephew. Like and then you

1185
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 3: know another guy.

1186
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: Who's kind of like Spoones, who you know, was very

1187
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: instrumental and uh making sure you know, seeing this ship through,

1188
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: making sure like man, you know, keeping my mom head in

1189
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: the game, like bro, no, you.

1190
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: Need to be doing this funk all the streets. Shit

1191
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: and dumb shit me man Monee.

1192
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: He lost his son on New Year's this year, like uh,

1193
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: like a drunk driver, like he was driving on the

1194
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: expressway down the wrong wrong, wrong way and head on

1195
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: collision and and took took my other nephew life. So

1196
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 4: you know, recipe peace Josh, rest in peace with League,

1197
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 4: Rest in peace, Prick. You know what I mean that

1198
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 4: that all this was going on while I was still

1199
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 4: dealing with all that, then my mom having an open

1200
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 4: heart surgery. You know, it's a lot, you know, the

1201
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 4: you know, the DJ Shay even before like the Breakfast

1202
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 4: Club interview, I probably you know, and it's just being

1203
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 4: me being.

1204
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 3: Real, real moment right now.

1205
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: You know I probably said and some things and did

1206
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 4: some ship dog that you know, kind of probably rubbed

1207
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,720
Speaker 4: West wrong. I shouldn't have said. So dealing with that

1208
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: kind of dysfunction with me and West and then all

1209
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 4: this and then you know, my mom and my mental

1210
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 4: stuff and you know, it just it was a fucked

1211
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 4: up time for me in between from king to a

1212
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 4: god and won't he do it?

1213
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1214
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: And so something Rolling Stones is about you had a therapist?

1215
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: Did you did that help people?

1216
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1217
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 4: Showed me how to say, fuck these niggas and do

1218
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: you and Ball get your money these don't let these

1219
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: niggas get you out your off your squaremen, fuck these niggas.

1220
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 3: Get your money in Ball. You look good, you feel

1221
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: how you look? You look good, you feel good. You

1222
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. That's how I took it. That's

1223
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: how I take that, man.

1224
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 4: And now as you need that push, you need that,

1225
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 4: you know that reinsurance like man, you know? So all right,

1226
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 4: you know, but like I said, the most important thing

1227
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: is I was able to find kind of I guess,

1228
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: a peace of mind and just maturing and growing as

1229
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: an artist, as a as a man, as a father,

1230
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: as a son, all that shit. You know, y'all remember

1231
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: the first couple of times we came and did the

1232
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: rap radar interview. You know, I ain't really wasn't no

1233
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 4: talker or none of that ship.

1234
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm just I rap and I go home, you know

1235
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1236
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: And you know I've been on the press runs and

1237
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 4: doing all this stuff and you know what I mean,

1238
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: and going overseas just showed me, like you know, I

1239
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: owe it more to my fans, and I owe more

1240
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: to my people that believed in me before all of

1241
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 4: this shit, to really be active and you know, put

1242
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: all the stuff aside and stop overthinking things and just

1243
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 4: go crazy, man, getting that booth, go crazy.

1244
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: You the Ellis Khan, go dumb.

1245
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 4: And I just tell myself that in the mirror every month,

1246
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: like you that nigga go eat.

1247
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: You and West are back in a good place.

1248
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we always been.

1249
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: And that's what you know the great thing about Wes

1250
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: and Man, I love that man so much because he

1251
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: never really took it, you know on some like where

1252
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: we man, fuck you, bro, you violated me type shit.

1253
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like we was good, you

1254
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 4: know every little thing. I still had his blessings with

1255
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: h We're still was doing the shows, rock and stage,

1256
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 4: just hugging like I love his kids.

1257
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 3: His kids love me to death.

1258
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 4: They uncle Uncle Knwall, Uncle Dumont. You know, I'm Uncle

1259
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: Dumont to them. You know what I'm saying, Like his

1260
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: kids loved me to death. You know, his wife, you know,

1261
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: my grandmother, everybody like you know what I mean. And

1262
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: mister our bullshit, you know we lost you know, Auntie Shell,

1263
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: granddad and it's just.

1264
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: Like, man, what we what the fuck is we doing? Man?

1265
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 4: Like I'm tripping, brom, I'm a step up and I'm

1266
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: a you know what I'm saying, yo, Bro, I'm tripping,

1267
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: bro because in reality, shit, you ain't never took nothing

1268
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: from me or not gave me nothing. I wasn't suposed

1269
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: to get none of that. It's never no shady business,

1270
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: no funny style shit, or no nothing. And I think

1271
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: that's where it kind of got confused when I was saying,

1272
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 4: because I said where I didn't read the contract, but

1273
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't from a place of me just being an

1274
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: idiot or just like you know, he manipulated me or.

1275
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: Nothing like shit, that's my brother. I don't got to

1276
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: read that shit.

1277
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 4: Shit we good, man, We good? I say less. And

1278
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I just just owe it

1279
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 4: to him to, you know, speak on that now. And

1280
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: because we never really had a conversation about it. Man,

1281
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: he just took that shit like I think he knew

1282
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 4: what it was and knew I was just acting out

1283
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 4: of my my feelings and my emotions and shit.

1284
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: And you know, the love never changed.

1285
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: And that's why it was important for me, like to

1286
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: do the Bruce Affix video with him and the song

1287
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: and everything and do it on a Darringer beat in

1288
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: one of those crazy like left fields kind of what

1289
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: the fuck is this beat? Because it reminds us of

1290
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: the hauling Nash days, the fly Guy days, the Hitler two,

1291
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: Hitler one, hit Looked three days. You know, I wanted

1292
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: to give our fans that treat, like, Yo, this what

1293
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: we've been missing. And I love seeing them dudes together

1294
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: Conway Conway, west Side Darringer because that's how we started.

1295
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: That's how we're gonna finish, you know what I mean.

1296
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 4: And that's how we're gonna finish Nigga. That's why we're

1297
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: doing that haul of Nash too. We're doing that well

1298
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 4: was sine Gun do too? And probably more work, you

1299
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like hopefully you know West be

1300
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: talking our retirement ship every year. Yeah yeah, no, West,

1301
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 4: w ain't going.

1302
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: Let me out though.

1303
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Speaker 3: The Gela forever man or.

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Speaker 1: They can't get rid of us. Man stuck together and

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Speaker 1: stopped this ship. We can only stop ourselves. That's why

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Speaker 1: I had to get my ship together. And you know,

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Speaker 1: honor my brothers man. You know what I'm saying, west

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Speaker 1: Side Gun, Benny the Butcher Man, I love y'all, niggas, Darren, y'all,

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Speaker 1: Love y'all, Griselda forever, drum work forever, b set forever, Nigga,

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Speaker 1: we built out whatever I'm special, beat ours list forever.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's has some great less in the last two years

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Speaker 4: since I've been on it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not taking nothing less than top twogregious, egregious.

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Speaker 4: When he closed his locker or all his door, I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be standing by like the benship born Jus by

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Speaker 4: the locker looking at you.

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Speaker 3: What's up.

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: You know? Way baby? Podcast?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank y'all. Man.

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Speaker 2: Real rap Radar is The Interval presents original production from Hyperhouse,

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Speaker 2: produced by Laura Wasser Holsts and producers Elliott Wilson and

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Speaker 2: Brian B. Dot Miller. Promittival Presents executive producers Alan Coy

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Speaker 2: and Jake Kleinberg Executive producer Paul Rosenberg. Editing is sound

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Speaker 2: designed by Dylan Alexander Freeman, recording engineer Mike Urban, visual

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Speaker 2: director Josh Perez, Operations lead Sarah Yu, Business development Lead

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Speaker 2: Cheffie Allen Swig, and Marketing lead Samara Still. Make sure

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