WEBVTT - #289 Packers Unscripted: Division draft roundup 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.439 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.360 I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside West Hodkoits were coming 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.440 to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:30.240 As we continue our week here of post draft analysis, 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.560 we're gonna step out of the realm of the Green 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:35.360 Bay Packers just a little bit and talk about what 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:39.040 the other teams in the NFC North did in this draft. Obviously, 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.600 six of the packers sixteen games coming up will be 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.440 against the Vikings, Lions, and Bears. So let's start with 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.360 the Vikings. They are the defending division champions. They've won 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.960 the NFC North two of the last three seasons. Um came, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.320 you know, within an eyelash, I guess you say, of 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.360 the Super Bowl, having reached the NFC title game a 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.720 year ago, and uh, a lot to eyes on that 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:04.679 first round pick for them, obviously, cornerback Mike Hughes, a 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:08.640 player that most analysts said would have been drafted much 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.360 higher than the bottom of the first round if not 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.080 for some off the field concerns. Yeah, and those off 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.880 concerns were something that I think we, you know, looked 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.360 at a little bit too, because we thought he could 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.000 potentially be a fit for the Packers. He started his 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.880 time off of North at North Carolina. Uh, some situations 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.160 happened off the field. It seems like everything I read, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.680 you know, how I understand it. You know, he was 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.880 never charged with anything, but he decided to leave Chapel 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.440 Hill and then he goes and plays one year at 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:42.200 Garden State Community College and then makes the decision to 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.240 go play for Scott Frost at UCF. So the two 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.360 sides of that is what happened at North Carolina, and 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.720 then the other fact he really only had one year 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.720 of college football that you can kind of, you know, 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.960 put some film up and really study him. So that's 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.680 sort of the aspect of him. You know, some size 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.600 concerns as well, But overall, I mean, he's a was 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:08.120 a tremendous playmaker for years with you know, going back 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.720 to what he did in high school I think coming 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.959 out of North Carolina and then what he obviously contributed 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.120 at UCF. So and then also gives him some playmaking 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.639 on potentially special teams as a returner. So a lot 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.000 of different facets there to Mike uses game. Yeah, Now, 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:26.079 safety Harrison Smith is really the quarterback of that secondary 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.240 for the Vikings and really the quarterback and that of 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.320 that entire defense. And the Vikings just made a commitment 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.640 to Trey Wayne's um first round draft pick from a 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.240 while they picked up his fifth year option, did they not? Yeah? 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.120 So um, But with Hughes now coming in as a 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.600 rookie first round pick, where do you see him maybe 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.799 fitting into this Minnesota secondary as it currently stands, he's 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:49.680 gonna have a chance to contribute right away. Um. You know, no, 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:51.840 no disrespect to Terence Newman. He's done it at a 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.440 high level for a very long time and he resigned. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.200 Resigned again, amazing career that guy's had. He did say 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.560 this will be his last year, you know, and again 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.520 that's assuming he makes the roster. But he you know, 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:04.680 he will turn forty this season and that'll be it. 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.800 But let's be honest, Mike in with all due respect 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.560 to Newman, if you're a defense and the Vikings were 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.640 one of the best in the league last year, I 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.120 don't know how much you want to rely on a 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.280 thirty nine or forty year old defensive back to be 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.040 your nickel or slock corner. Uh. They had to do 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.520 that at different intervals last season. I think bringing in 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:25.240 Hughes now gives you somebody to compliment Wayne Wayne's and 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.440 and just trying to see exactly how all those guys fit. Uh, 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.640 that was really if you look at that defense, the 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.400 wage structure right now, I think that's really was the 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.000 only weakness. Trying to find that number two complimentary piece, 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.160 and I think they feel like they accomplished that with Hughes. Yeah. Well, 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.560 and we also saw and the Vikings saw, and I 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.520 think this pick in a lot of ways was directed 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.280 towards what happened to that defense in the NFC Championship 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.400 game when Xavier Rhodes had to leave the game and 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.800 or was trying to play when he wasn't healthy, Because 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.840 that defense just wasn't the same in that game, the 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.600 one the way they had played all your long and 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.240 roads either not being on the field or not being 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.160 fully healthy at the number one cornerback spot was a 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.600 huge was a huge factor. And you mentioned Newman and 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.760 his age and everything. I think the Vikings are trying 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.800 to figure out how they can piece this together so 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.400 that if Rhods does have to miss some time, they 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.520 just don't completely fall apart. Again. Yeah, absolutely, and that's 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:21.800 that's a great point you raise, because Rhads really is 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.360 that he's the guy there waynes I think you give 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.200 him credit for the way he's developed. You know, he's 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.359 had some ups and downs, but he's been able to 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.080 be consistent enough as that number two option. It is 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.080 roads though, that ultimately is going to be your quote 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.919 unquote shutdown corner, but you need more guys to be 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.000 able to compliment that. You look at what they did 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.920 in Cincinnati the years that Mike Zimmer was there. They 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.880 you talk a lot about that defense, You talk a 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:45.440 lot about this the you know, the double a gap blitzing. 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:48.840 They had good, reliable cornerbacks. They're developing the same thing 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.200 in Minnesota. They've invested three first round picks into that 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.039 position now. But obviously that shows you the commitment that 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.279 they have to making sure that they have enough options 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.479 there if you happen to lose Roads at any you know, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.480 any time. Yeah, a couple of other picks by the 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.800 Vikings that intrigued me. In the second round, they took 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.600 Brian O'Neill, an offensive tackle prospect out of pit, and 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.400 then a couple of rounds later they took Tyler Conklin, 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.640 a tight end from Central Michigan, and the O'Neill pick 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.839 interesting to me from the standpoint that last year the 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.080 Vikings kind of fixed everything with regards to their offensive line. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.080 I think then drafting an offensive tackle and some people 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.679 thought O'Neil maybe could slip into the first round. Drafting 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.760 an offensive tackle as high as they did, I think 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.600 is is a signal that, Okay, again, we don't want 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.159 one injury with this unit that we fixed. We don't 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.520 want one injury, especially at one of the edge spots 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.880 at tackle to to to lead to a big drop off. 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.120 So they want another another big time prospect there. And 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.279 then with Conklin at tight end, I mean, Kyle Rudolph 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.720 has been so productive no matter who the quarterback has 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.560 been in Minnesota, He's been so productive as a pass 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.880 catching tight end for them. You wonder if they're trying 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.840 to find that next, potentially that next Kyle Rude. Yeah, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.479 and it is what I said before too, Mike, you 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.640 want to have some guys in the pipeline at that position. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.000 I thought Conklin was a great value pick for them 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.520 in the fifth round. And then also to look at O'Neil, 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.800 I mean you tip your cap Riley. Reef ended up 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:08.720 being one of the better signings out of free agency 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:12.120 last year, but he's not getting any younger either. It's 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:14.880 important to be able to have options at tackle. I mean, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.080 I think they're anticipating Reef being able to hold down 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.359 that spot for the next three, four or five seasons, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.720 but you never know how things can turn. The nice 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:23.960 thing about Roneil he gives you some flexibility too, if 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:25.960 you'd have to use some potentially at that right tackle spot. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.640 All right, Well, we've got some other teams in the 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.599 NFC North to talk about. We will get to that 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.520 after the breakback with more on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.880 Welcome back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, West, Hodko, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.000 it's over there, okay, West, continuing on with our NFC 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.080 North analysis here in the draft and moving on to 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.560 the Detroit Lions. They draft a center from Arkansas, Frank 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.599 rag Now, in the first round, and again, not the 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.880 sexiest pick that you throw out there to your fans 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.040 at your first round pick as an offensive lineman, but 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.080 certainly a commitment to a couple of things. Obviously wanting 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.880 to protect Matthew Stafford, but also trying to establish and 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.560 get that running game going, and that's a that's a commitment. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.040 They continued then in the second round with drafting carry 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.280 On Johnson, the running back out of Auburn. So two 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.680 picks that kind of go hand in hand at the 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.760 top of their draft, they really do. And after Billy 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.160 Price ends up having that soldier injury, I think it 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.360 really solidified right now is the top center on this board. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.720 Price could end up having a very nice career, but sure, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:43.160 I think if you're looking at trying to make a 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.120 first round investment, rag Now was the safer pick. He 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.920 was an exemplary citizen during his time at Arkansas. They 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:50.920 went through a lot of tough days, but yet he 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.119 was a consistent, reliable, real axle of that offensive line. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.560 It's some interesting personal off the field stuff. You know, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.160 he lost his father during his time at Arkansas. I 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.360 believe it was cancer. Um really, I was impressed with him. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.320 I got a chance to be in that media scrum 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.000 at the Combine holds himself and you can tell a 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.640 really respectable and mature way, and I have to imagine 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.000 there'll be a guy who fits in well. I saw 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.640 t J. Lang was giving him a little bit of 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.800 grief on Twitter already saying when reg Now was telling 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.600 him how excited he is the play next to him, 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.520 he mentioned he called him t J, and t J 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.920 immediately replied with it's Mr Lang, Mr quintessential t J Lang. 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.400 But this is this is an investment in trying to 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.000 balance that offense. The Detroit Lions have taken a lot 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.720 of swings in the second round on running backs. They're 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.719 gonna try one more big hack here with carry on 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.200 my wayward Son Johnson. How does a guy like that 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.040 and not end up in Kansas. He had to, but 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.280 he probably avoided it on purpose to go to auburna 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.280 auburner Kansas football. It's a tough call. But hey, I 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.559 mean they missed on Michael Leashore. Uh you know, a 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.040 mere ab Duela. There's been question marks there. It's just 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.800 been this on and on rotation of trying to find 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.480 buddy who can be there, and they and a handful 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.640 of years ago they might have had the right guy 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.240 in job at best, but the concussions and everything, he 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.400 just never got his career off the ground. They made 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.480 a pretty big investment in him as well. I believe 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.600 he was from cal if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, And 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.720 I mean they're still trying to find that next Jonathan 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.800 Stewart for them, or who who was the guy that 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.040 was a Jonathan store Who was the guy that filled 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.560 in after h Barry Sanders? Remember that? Who is that? 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.520 I can't even anyway, You're you're you're putting me on 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.760 the spot. And they're still trying to find an answer 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.760 at that position. And if you look at that that record, Mike, 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.880 I think it's what now, sixty games they've had without 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.240 a hundred yard rusher. Yeah, it's some incredible street. Nobody 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.720 else is like above fifteen right now. I think the 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.600 Ravens were second place, but then they accomplished it last year. Um, 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:47.320 this is this is a big move for them. They 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.200 need to find a running game. Yeah, they want to 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.840 take some of the pressure off of Matthew Stafford. They 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:56.120 want to develop a little bit more balance offensively. Another 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.360 pick for the Detroit Lions to to keep an eye 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:03.360 on in the fourth round, they drafted DeShawn Hand, defensive 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.679 lineman out of Alabama. Now, as far as that interior 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.120 of Alabama's defensive line, it was it was kind of 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.760 a one two punch. Deron Payne was the was the 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.760 much talked about guy, the first round prospect. DeShawn Hand 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.040 was sort of the sidekick, you know, the the other guy, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.440 just as big, not quite as agile, not quite as fast, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.640 you know, all all the all those other measurables and stuff. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.200 You know, he wasn't in in Paine's class, but but 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.520 you know, you talk about a guy who who sometimes 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:34.560 you just never know maybe how good a guy like 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.080 that is when he's been playing next to a first 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.719 round pick. Does he get to flourish more when he's 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.920 not in that shadow or was he making plays because 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.360 the other guy was getting so much attention. That's one 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.480 of those things from a scouting perspective, I think that 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.520 can be really hard to project. But a fourth round 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.000 pick for a guy on Alabama's defensive line, um, you 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.200 know it's definitely worth the investment. Well, and you hit 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.760 the bulls. I'm like, that's how you end up being 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.480 a fourth round pick. And by the way, just to 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.800 throw out it was James Stewart. Was James Stewart back 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.680 in the post Barry Sanders era. But yeah, Hand is 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.120 one of the guys I was really high on coming out, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.320 and I think he'll pair well with that offensive front. 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.600 Obviously a Sean Robinson's already there. Um, so there's some 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:20.120 ties to pass defense, Crimson tie defensive fronts. I'm interested 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.760 to see how they use them. And they've had a 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.280 lot of success over the years. I think you have 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:25.320 to tip your cap. Even going back to Martin Mayhew 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.560 when he was the GM with the Lions, they found 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.160 defensive lineman that has been the heart and soul of 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.240 those defenses when they were really good. I know it's 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.640 kind of lapsed a little bit in recent years, but 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.600 Hand will be a guy they'll throw into that rotation. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:41.520 Also drafted, uh, Tracy Walker from Louisiana, So um, that's 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:43.400 another guy as far as the defensive back that's going 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.960 to add to those reserves. At that position, they have 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.800 some really good pieces. Darius Slay is one of the 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.040 top cornerbacks in the league right now. Um, but they 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.679 need to find more guys to deepen that rotation. I 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.840 think both of those two guys check the boxes. For 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.800 the limitations that the Lions had in regards the draft picks. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.959 I actually thought they did a good job of being 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.280 able to find some guys that are going to help 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.240 them all, right, Well, one more team in the NFC 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.760 North to get to, and we will get to the 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:26.560 Bears after this. Back with Moron Packers unscripted. Welcome back 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.760 to Packers, unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West Hodkuit's 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.920 in that one Okay West final team here in the 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.840 NFC North, the Chicago Bears. They had the highest draft 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:40.199 pick of the division opponents, number eight overall. They select 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.320 linebacker ro Kwan Smith from Georgia, one of these guys 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.680 who has talked about in that group of the top 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.880 five or six defensive prospects in the entire draft. And 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.480 I'm sure Bears fans are hoping, as I kind of 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.880 mentioned after the first round, they're hoping that this is 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.719 the second coming of of your Brian Urlacker, a guy 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.520 who's going to be your anchor at line backer in 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.840 the middle of that defense for the next decade. So 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.400 it is Vic Fangio, that's what he's hoping for. I actually, uh, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:07.960 you know, I know, I just got done talking about 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.120 the lines drive class. I was really impressed by what 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.000 the Bears did. It started with Smith. I think they 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.840 let the board come to them We're talking so much, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.559 Mike about the Packers and in the fact that their 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.120 quarterback obviously isn't in eating Green Bay, and how that 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.760 was going to help them. The Bears, who say what 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.839 you will about their decision to move up one spot 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.920 last year to take Mitchell Robiski, they were the big 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.480 benefit of this in the long run, though. Right before 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.200 them the Bills are trading up trying to get their quarterback. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.800 That meant a lot of really talented defensive players are 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.680 going to be available for them outside of Chub and Ward. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.760 Roquan Smith is a guy that I think I don't 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.520 want to put you don't want to put that expectation 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.120 out there that the guy's the next Brian or Lacker, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.080 because I think Brian or Lackers a once in a 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.000 generation guy, a guy that moves from safety to linebacker 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.439 at a really small school and then just takes the 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.720 world by fire and becomes a Hall of Fame football player. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.240 But that being said, out of all these in side 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.680 backers that you know have been produced out of the 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.720 sec here in the last handful of years, Roquan Smith, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:08.400 in my opinion, is the best of the bunch. He 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.720 just he does so many different things. He gives you 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.079 the coverage tools that you look for. He's a playmaker 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.960 in the trenches. Yeah. This guy, by all accounts, is 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:17.640 the type of guy that you plug in there for 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.200 ten years and you forget about it. Yeah, that he's 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.400 going to be a guy that's going to be there 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.640 and be reliable. It was a good pick by them, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.720 and I think it was just just really a function 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.240 of letting the board come to you and taking the 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.280 best guy available. Yeah. And then in the second and 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.800 third rounds, the Bears focused on offense. They took James Daniels, 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.640 the center out of Iowa in the second round to 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.080 uh to provide a little bit more depth and beef 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.120 on that offensive line. And then in the third round 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.200 they took a guy I know that that you were 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.400 very interested, and that's the wide receiver Anthony Miller from Memphis. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.040 And we knew going into this draft the Bears had 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.880 to make some kind of an investment, a significant investment 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.120 at wide receiver because you've got to get Mitchell Drabinsky 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.040 some targets and arguably they're the best wide receiver that 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.240 they've had over the last couple of years. Was Cam Meredith, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.040 who was gone. You know, he he injured his knee 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.200 and basically missed the season and now he's gone. The 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.840 Bears chose not to match a contract offer that he 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.760 got elsewhere. So, um, Anthony Miller, you know this is 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.800 this is a guy who you know. And the Bears 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.320 are still hoping that Kevin White from West Virginia, their 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.840 first round pick from a handful of years ago. They're 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.440 hoping that that he can get over all this injury 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.000 stuff and become the player that they projected when they 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.360 drafted him in the top ten. But um, but Miller 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:32.120 is a big investment in a wide receiver. It's a 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:33.640 guy with a lot of upside. Yeah, and they took 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.000 out insurance policy too with Alan Robinson. But now the 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.320 question is he's coming off of an A C L 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.240 as well, So what are you going to be getting 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.680 with those two returning vets. I think that Anthony Miller 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.920 checks a big box because he can be a slot 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.760 receiver if those two guys are healthy. He's not necessarily 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.840 taking playing time away from anybody, and it gives somebody 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.600 underneath a playmaker for Mitchell Trobiski to work off of, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.920 which I think was really what they were missing the 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.400 most last year, especially after the Zach Miller injury. There 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.120 just there wasn't anybody for him to go to, you know, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.360 close in between the hashes. So Miller is a guy 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.680 that made plays all over the field for Memphis. I mean, 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.920 you want to talk about chip on his shoulder. Uh, 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.800 this guy probably is in the top ten of the 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.400 draft in terms of he was completely shunned by every 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.760 Division one college his hometown, Memphis Tigers. They end up 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.880 allowing him to come onto campus as a walk on, 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.040 and he leaves as their all time leading receiver, breaking 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.320 numerous records held by Isaac Bruce along the way. This 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.320 guy is a playmaker, and I really thought, you know, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.680 potentially the Packers could be looking at him. You know, Ultimately, 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.560 I think they made the best decision going with Josh 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.920 Jackson and being able to really fortify that cornerback spot. 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:41.120 But I think Anthony Miller is gonna be a playmaker 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.360 in this league. And I can see how Mitchell Robiskie 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.000 if I'm in his shoes right now, compared to what 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.400 I had to work with at the end of last season, 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.520 I'd have a smile on my face if him, especially 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.360 getting James Daniels too. He has a center now for 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.800 the future. Yeah. Well, and you look at and as 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.640 as you said at the beginning, the Bears kind of 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.720 let the draft come to them. They seem to get 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.880 really good value at their top picks. Some people thought 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.359 James Daniels was potentially a late first round guy if 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.040 you want an interior offensive lineman. As you mentioned, some 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.240 people projected Anthony Miller as a second rounder at wide receiver. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.399 The Bears get those guys, respectively, at the top of 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.040 the second and the top of the third, you know, 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.560 the first third of those respective rounds. So again, they 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.560 really took a value approach with with their top pick. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.080 In Miller just kept climbing and climbing and climbing. He 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.560 was a fourth or fifth, and he was a third. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.560 He ends up being a second. The one side effect 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.119 of all this, though, now Mike is there is going 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.200 to be more pre pressure on Mitchell Robisky. He has 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.720 some weapons. Now he has to go about using them. 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:37.640 All Right, With that, we'll go to a break back 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:57.080 with more on Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome back 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.240 to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford joined by Wes Hodk Wits 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.040 and West. Just to clarify something I said at the 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.400 end of the last segment about the Bears and Anthony 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.520 Miller using the pick at the top of the third round. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.240 I meant to say they traded that pick to get 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.080 back into the bottom half of the second round to 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.560 draft Miller. That was the investment that they made. I 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.280 didn't make that clear, so I apologize for that. But 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.119 moving on, we had talked after the first round excuse 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.480 me of the draft about the quarterbacks and where they went. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:27.080 Baker Mayfield to the Browns, Sam Donald to the Jets, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.800 Josh Allen to the Buffalo Bills, and Josh Rosen to 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.960 the Arizona Cardinals. Now you look at the Packers two 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:36.240 thousand and eighteen schedule, the Jets, the Bills, and the 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.440 Cardinals are all on it. How many of these rookie 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.000 quarterbacks do you think we're going to see play against 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.920 Green Bay this fall? I would say it's good chance 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.440 of seeing at least two, if not all three, depending 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.520 on which direction the Bills go. Doing this, off the 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.000 top of my head, I believe it was the Bills 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.240 that signed A. G. McCarron, right, so he'll be in 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.680 that conversations right ye with with Josh Allen. So whether 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.639 or not Allen ends up getting the call during the 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.040 first month this season, we'll have to wait and see. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.360 I wonder if they're gonna be somewhat hesitant to do 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.120 that after what happened with Nathan Peterman last year when 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.199 they put him in over Tyrod Taylor. Looking more at 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.080 the Cardinals and Jets, they were looking for a long 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.640 term answer at those and it was obvious going into 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.639 the draft they needed to do this. I mean, you 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:17.960 go back and listen to what the words come out 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.320 of Arizona. For so many years they've wanted to draft 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.000