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Speaker 4: We like to welcome everyone to the Gangst Chronicles podcast

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Speaker 4: where Gangst the Rap lives. I'm your host Big Steal

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Speaker 4: with my guy Man. Today we have a first time

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Speaker 4: ever only on the Gangst the Chronicles. Only on the

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Speaker 4: Gangst the Chronicles. When you see Big Gift Cam, I

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Speaker 4: gotta say West Coast Cam because I don't want them

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Speaker 4: confusion the dude that used to wear pink, and that's

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Speaker 4: no dis against him, but they're two totally different guys

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Speaker 4: and my blood.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: And it's about to just get real in the here

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Speaker 4: today man, because you know eight, I'm gonna talk about

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Speaker 4: all that ship that you don't like to talk about.

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Speaker 5: I ain't talking my ship. I'm just gonna sit here

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Speaker 5: and listen. So you just want them serve you all

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Speaker 5: my ship today. I'm explicit today. They don'et slap the

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Speaker 5: sticker on my mouth today, so I'm quiet. I'm just

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Speaker 5: here so I can get paid.

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Speaker 6: The beautiful it was gonna pinions you about to hear

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Speaker 5: Reflect the sticker on this episod saw when you started out.

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna go to too much the conspiracy lane.

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Speaker 4: But what I do want to talk about though, and

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Speaker 4: of the conversations we have every day as far as

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Speaker 4: gangster rap goes, right. I was telling someone the other

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Speaker 4: in rap music, but with people that have done they

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Speaker 4: calling the trap in some cases crump, you know because

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Speaker 4: Three six Mafia to me is gangster totally. That was

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Speaker 4: talking about elementary, the streets, poverty, crime, you know, in

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Three six Mafia was some wild boys.

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Speaker 1: Man and they was in the devil and that was

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Speaker 5: satan is? Yeah, but why yeah, why would you think

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Speaker 6: Why because we was the worst of the worst, meaning

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm saying they first the first place in Chicago, right,

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Speaker 3: Uh crazy nigga to go there far west. Yeah. Long.

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Speaker 5: And it was three females that came. It wasn't no,

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Speaker 6: It was understood like nigger and cracker, like you know

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Speaker 3: I can I can understand that exactly. You know what

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Speaker 6: I don't want to mix with y'all, and y'all don't

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Speaker 4: Up North style to ask like your friends.

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Speaker 5: It's just because, like I said, it's crazy that we've

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Speaker 5: Low Nigga, young Godga Caul.

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Speaker 7: When God died, I still thought I was crazy. And

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Speaker 7: remember I was explaining to steal the movie, like, but

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Speaker 7: you can't call the nigga God.

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Speaker 4: Another nigga.

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Speaker 3: We call that, but it's not to do it.

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Speaker 4: But in every neighborhood, we have someone that almost holds

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Speaker 4: We normal. They got him in every neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's something that really we didn't do that.

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Speaker 5: We didn't Yeah, yah, y'all didn't do that. We didn't

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Speaker 4: I see it off there in l A. No, that

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Speaker 3: But it's not really like that. It's it's.

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Speaker 7: The thing they make California like there is like Jay

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: Certain places it probably if you the nigga, you probably.

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Speaker 7: Gonna meet the fucked up the minds, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean, like you want because it's always a nigga

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Speaker 4: That's I think if people fear.

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Speaker 5: You, picking give a fuck him out who nigga jack

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Speaker 4: I really think fear if you if you really scared

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Speaker 3: That's the whole game.

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Speaker 6: I mean, not no disrespect, but my large majority of

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that though. Like growing up, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: I didn't really want to be from the set, like

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Speaker 3: Well you didn't want to bang this. You was always

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Speaker 6: But that wasn't about it like you you realized later

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Speaker 6: that said, I've said, all of this is what your

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to chill them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: It was different for me, like uh, in Atlanta, we

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Speaker 4: I didn't run into the gang coaches.

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Speaker 1: I got to Colorado, my brother, my cousin and all

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Speaker 4: What did somebody? Somebody migrated. They really banged down. I

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Speaker 3: And you know talk to the Yeah it's up there. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: A lot of hardship was migrating from Cali. When you

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Speaker 4: Tell you those guys because they got crips, some bloods

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Speaker 3: The ones in But that's because they at the beginning

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Speaker 6: If they want to match when you first you strike it,

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Speaker 3: It's gonna go up, then it's gonna level out.

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Speaker 5: Kid said, niggas. It was bad I saw in the

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Speaker 5: Let me ask your question. I'm talking about going to school,

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Speaker 5: you's from?

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Speaker 7: It was kid was kids, But you change from fighting shooting.

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Speaker 3: This is something I never asked.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all really know about when the sisters and nature?

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Speaker 7: Was that a conversation amongst your age group or was

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Speaker 3: Yeah? That was sectional.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember the first time I didn't come outside

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Speaker 7: So do you remember when when? When when Crip started beefing?

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Speaker 3: Could remember, we was always beefing with ye.

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Speaker 5: Like, yes, I said, I never came from the time

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Speaker 4: It might be another blood hood like I'm cool with,

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Speaker 4: but we don't get along with them for sure. Them

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Speaker 1: Hey does the does the beef that stays with between

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Speaker 5: Because it's like some of the like some of our

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Speaker 5: So that was our click. Now if we happen to

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Speaker 5: they gonna dump. They not asking, Oh hold up before

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Speaker 5: we start shooting. Where you from? Oh you from so

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Speaker 5: They didn't do that, nigga. We're just coming through on

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Speaker 5: one of those nights, and a lot of our ships

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Speaker 5: the other neighborhood. They enemy coming through, they dumping on everybody.

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Speaker 5: We get caught. Now our beef is their beef too.

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Speaker 5: That's how I go because I don't want straight too

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Speaker 3: Would you remember when the gracious and the PJ shit

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Speaker 6: Well, like I said, from my point of view, and

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Speaker 6: I you know, I gotta keep it because on some

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Speaker 3: Leaves of of the you know the effects.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I try to stay on the cause the foundation

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Speaker 6: cointeil pro thing like all.

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Speaker 3: Some some of our.

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Speaker 6: Most active riders was INFORMEDT was was working for them, folks.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: If y'all know anything about the Black Panthers, the Nation

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Speaker 6: of Is Flying, any any organization you had Asian provocateurs

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Speaker 6: that was that was flipped, that was turned, And these

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, even you see it out

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Speaker 3: The snitches is the is the niggas that.

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Speaker 6: So how you go, how you gonna you know, d Peter,

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Speaker 6: this nigga the gun from y'all hood like, but he'll

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Speaker 6: snitched like you can't tell him that niggas is scared

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Speaker 6: of the you know what I'm saying. So this was

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Speaker 3: We're gang banging.

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Speaker 6: So I tried not to get on it, mentioning hoods

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Speaker 6: and all of that. But you know that's what Gangs

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Speaker 6: the Chronicles is about. But my take is the real gangster,

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Speaker 6: the real endemy.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. Rap music had a profound effect on every community

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Speaker 4: across the nation, across the country. I don't care here

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Speaker 4: to New York, right, And I would be remiss to say, man,

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Speaker 4: that between the dope the dope trade, you know, between

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Speaker 4: I like to call it, you know, the when the

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: They came with a certain attitude and it was different,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So some of it stuck.

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Speaker 4: Most plays most places are stuck, right, You got to

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Speaker 4: think about it. The Crips and Bloods came to Cleveland eighty.

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Speaker 3: Eight, eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: That yeah, that that lake Dog. It came with a dope,

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Speaker 4: to even though what that was. I know it was

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Speaker 4: it wasn't around like it was. They wasn't full on

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Speaker 4: hitting the pipe. It came in the form of a

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Speaker 4: primo first. That's why it's almost like it was planet

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Speaker 4: the way they just but but if you look back

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Speaker 4: on it, it's like everybody started on it. Because my

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Speaker 3: The smoke weed right.

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Speaker 4: They was partying and one night they were sitting at

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Speaker 4: said he never will forget it. He said that he

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Speaker 4: felt like that's when his whole life changed. He said

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Speaker 4: they were sitting there looking fireworks and he said, it's

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Speaker 4: home boy, somebody trust she do said, man, try this,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna make this feel better. When he put when

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Speaker 4: he hit that man with that primo with the rocks

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Speaker 4: in there, dude, he said it was like an explosions.

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Speaker 4: He said, man, I had he said, he said, I

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Speaker 4: had an orgasthm in my brain. I said, no, they.

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Speaker 3: Say it was great.

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Speaker 7: I want to ask you a question. But plug and

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Speaker 7: knowing him, so my older humies told me, like, you

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Speaker 7: know that it was just the thing, and you just

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Speaker 7: tried it right, just like the thing, And he said

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Speaker 7: he tried it right. They tried to. He was like, man,

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Speaker 7: it was too crazy. I ain't even messing with this

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Speaker 7: no more. But then certain people couldn't get.

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Speaker 3: Away from it.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't because we all geared, man, an attic, don't

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Speaker 4: just become an attict. Bro when he tried to think

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Speaker 4: the first time, he's already an addict. But it hasn't

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Speaker 4: been activated.

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Speaker 3: Ship.

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Speaker 7: This is the thought I was gonna say that to

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Speaker 7: your point with gangster, this is a good question for

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Speaker 7: all of y'all. Do you remember the first time you

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Speaker 7: heard about the interap song crack? Yeahs paid for y'all?

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Speaker 7: Remember the first time you heard it?

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Speaker 4: Man, I think it might have been you know what

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Speaker 4: this was between two t and and Carris, one of

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Speaker 4: the girl he's all free, but the crack costs money.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the first time you heard about it in

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Speaker 4: I just thought that was powerful, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like that, You remember he was like, can what are

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Speaker 4: Probably? Yeah, probably Quo.

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Speaker 5: Todd and Spade had all of us sold up with

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Speaker 5: with with drug tails.

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Speaker 6: And we wasn't even calling it crack. That was the

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Speaker 6: white man turned for It was rocks. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 6: it was rock. It was rotten. White people called the crack.

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Speaker 3: And they always come up with these two.

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Speaker 4: Right, like against the real turned against red. Then we

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Speaker 4: like it was the white people whe rock man, rock man,

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Speaker 6: White people call it crack because they heard a slang

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Speaker 6: a little piece off the rock. And then when they

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Speaker 6: called call it cracked, we never noticed when they hear

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Speaker 6: you hear a little crack on like like embers burning,

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Speaker 4: Saying, definitely sound like it be crackling because that was

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Speaker 4: rock like crack, like crack a little like you cracked

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the dope term was what we were slanging. We

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Speaker 4: If you had a fifty piece, we had a boulder,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: We had a fifty piece, we had to double up

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Speaker 5: what was called the double up spend fifty make you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we was doing that all day in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 7: I was temp them stories itself so yeah, So so

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Speaker 4: I know that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that record, that's that's crazy. So everybody got introduced

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody got introduced to Yeah, because we wasn't mean

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Speaker 3: It wasn't. Yeah, we were.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you this, not to cut you off,

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Speaker 4: but do you remember at one time snorting coke with

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Speaker 5: And why they really didn't press it hard when it

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Speaker 4: Because nobody could afford it. And and really you had

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Speaker 3: A ring that he had. They had a little secret

441
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: compartment and that was like the.

442
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 5: Players you know in the club, big dog you know, yeah,

443
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 5: the big dog. Yeah, then you take the little a

444
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 5: little broad head and put it up to her doll

445
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 5: to get her little head and then kissed the ring.

446
00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 5: What happened was we got it. They introduced it to

447
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 5: us and the gang and niggas started getting rich and

448
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 5: just niggas, And that's when they started coming down hard.

449
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: Because when it was just the white people in the

450
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 5: club in the studio fifty fours and shit was cracking.

451
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 5: Everybody was doing it.

452
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 3: You're all the stories. You never heard nobody getting all

453
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 3: his time for selling no door.

454
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,959
Speaker 5: They didn't trip off of that ship. Soon this niggas

455
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 5: started naked money.

456
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: Boy, gee, I'm gonna tell you the difference between that.

457
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 4: Contrary to popular belief, most of those people were based

458
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: in other countries. They had people over the deal work,

459
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 4: like you had Roselle the Blanco over here that was

460
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: doing her thing and whatever. You had whoever else down there.

461
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: But most part Pablo was over there. Papla was doing

462
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: with hell he wanted to. He owned the gup and

463
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: he built his own jail and everything. So yeah, couldn't

464
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: nobody get to him. But he you know, his u

465
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: brisk was the cause of his demise though, you know,

466
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: he was just if he'd have just did that little

467
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: time in next jail he built, he probably became president

468
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 4: of that motherfucker and just chill.

469
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 6: He didn't have to he about science though, like oh

470
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 6: so so no, no disrespect.

471
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: Niggas ain't scientists and we ain't eve important.

472
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 6: Like so so so so Rocks.

473
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 3: Rocks is way more addictive Rochester.

474
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 6: Rocks is way According to users, Rocks is way affect

475
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 6: you way more than powder, like like Nigga's gonna destroy

476
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 6: their life trying to get that same feeling, that that

477
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 6: orgasm whatever, that extra bomb feeling of rocks.

478
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: That that don't you don't get that from powder.

479
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, powder don't geek. Powder is a whole different

480
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: high I believe. So who was the scientist talk powder?

481
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: By accident?

482
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: One time?

483
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 4: And I was pissed off? Listen to me and I

484
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: tried to no listen to me.

485
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: Listen.

486
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: You know she hadn't started smoking weed till I was

487
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 4: in my fifties. You ain't never know me to smoke

488
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: no whed prior to I did. I didn't notice you

489
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: to smoke ship until I start hanging around. You're not

490
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: being a back to show. Start going stick over here?

491
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah because what no?

492
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 4: Because what it was, bro I found a remedy for

493
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: my need, right, you know, I write his football entries right,

494
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 4: So I found something that was a cool alternative that

495
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I was constipated and that and see,

496
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this, bro, and I'm being one hundred.

497
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: At one time, my doctor was giving me a nine

498
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 4: day supply of Viking. Come on my shoulder, it's just time.

499
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: Come on.

500
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 4: Well, I had a cousin. I ain't gonna put his name. No,

501
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that. No it's not okay, No,

502
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: it's not a fool.

503
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: Still right.

504
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: He was the one that was known for really getting

505
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: down like this nigga. When we was thirteen, he was

506
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: taking fifths of a wild hours rolls for the head and the

507
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 4: gonna play football and get busy. So he had some

508
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 4: leaed one day and I was trying.

509
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: To be cool.

510
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 4: We were saying and that was some brogs and I

511
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: remember they was playing this Shuve rock song. Were in

512
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: the projects, Yeah, we we, we were in the projects.

513
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: And he said and he said, gone hit the joint.

514
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: So I hit.

515
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 6: It, Oh, Primo, So you got it?

516
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: And I'm trying. No, it wasn't rocks. It wasn't like

517
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, it was powdered. No, that free base explaining

518
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: to real quick. Freebasing is when you got the powder.

519
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: If they're doing the same thing, that rocks, but it's

520
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: a way more expensive fire because you burned up a

521
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: lot of cocaine, you burning up a lot of dope.

522
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Right.

523
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: So when I tried it, I didn't really know it.

524
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 4: Actually I didn't even know, Like I didn't know how

525
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: to smoke weed back then. I was just like this

526
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: got me. I was on my way home and I

527
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: just felt like a numbness come over my whole face.

528
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: And it's like my face was froze.

529
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Man.

530
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 4: I didn't like it, bro because I wouldn't gotta remember

531
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 4: I wasn't I wasn't used to get. I wasn't used

532
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 4: to get because I didn't get high. But I was

533
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: just like Crump. Was just like Crump.

534
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: Just imagine, just imagine you can't.

535
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 4: Feel your face, man, and you just up. I stayed

536
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: up for like two days and I didn't.

537
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: Care what was wrong with me?

538
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: I said, And wasn't nowhere near going to sleep. And

539
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: I asked him. I said, man, I don't want to

540
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: smoke no more. He said, nigga, that was that powder.

541
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: I wanted to but big dogs because.

542
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 3: I was mad.

543
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 4: I was upset because to me, that was like being

544
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 4: a smoker back then, and I didn't you know. I

545
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: was like, sure, I was an athlete. I had to

546
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 4: test the drugs because it was embarrassing. How do you feel.

547
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 7: About people blaming rather hip hop for spreading the messages?

548
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: Well, hip hop asked, being like, like, let me be

549
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 4: real right here, I'm gonna say something that's real and

550
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 4: it's gonna sound hypocritical as hell. I really believe that

551
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: hip hop definitely played the part. And I don't think

552
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: it's our fault, right, we was telling the story right.

553
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: But gangsterism is intriguing. Bro selling dope as hell of intriguing.

554
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: I never felt more alive than when I sold dope.

555
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: Dog.

556
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, and I'm just and I'm

557
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 4: just because I'm.

558
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: Serious and it was game. I'm talking about me.

559
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: I was a fog as I am now, man, I was,

560
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: I was young, dog, I was a baby.

561
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: You had them bills in your pockets fold.

562
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Up, and it's like and it's just quick because you

563
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: go from and it's not like I was getting like

564
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: fifty sixty sevut there five hundred. I just remember I

565
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: went from a dude trying to borrow two dollars from

566
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: the hommie in the locker room. Now I got thirty

567
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: five hundred in my pocket, man, just like that quick,

568
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: and I'm going to Tommy Berger and I'm the nigga

569
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 4: that the thing right, And le Bron is looking at

570
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: me like I'm the ball.

571
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Tap into your man.

572
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 4: Like, nigga, I got money.

573
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: I can buy these bitches of a couple of value facts.

574
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 7: Again, you know what I mean, like that little chili

575
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 7: cheese frog for everybody?

576
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 4: Was you?

577
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: Were you successful?

578
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can be successful in that

579
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: trade because I think about it now and it's one

580
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 4: of my life's biggest regrets because I think about her

581
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 4: now as a grown man. I think about some of

582
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: the people I encountered when I was doing that, because

583
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: contrary with people say people always, you had different people,

584
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Like I had homies that would beat the smokers up.

585
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: I would never liked that though, because they you got

586
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: a lot of all smoker wasn't just raggedy people, it'd

587
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: be people. But I saw them deteriorating that. I remember

588
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: there was this girl she used to just coming. She

589
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: was older, but she used to just come just on weekends,

590
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: on like Friday, and she was like, hey, you got this,

591
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: and she would get it. She would be with her

592
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: little friends. And I saw go one. I saw Finby

593
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: driving her car. That's when I knew she was gone.

594
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: Some cluck calls down, bro, and she can't DUBU till

595
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 5: tomorrow and she can't one day dog, and you know,

596
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 5: the hair started getting telled and stuff, and she got

597
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: a little shake and she was trying to keep her

598
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 5: composure because we used to have conversations and I said,

599
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: I said you already.

600
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: She was like that minute society burger and we asked you,

601
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: she got you. I feel contempt at my heart for her.

602
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: And that's when I realized, Man, I don't think I

603
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: had the conscious to be a good I could have been,

604
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: because the thing is, you don't have to have no

605
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: hell of traits.

606
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: To be no conscious, but you don't have to have

607
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: a conscious.

608
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: Dog. We come with a thing. You have to be

609
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: a heartless dude. Because I would see homies. Man, I

610
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: would see homies. I'm gonna tell you that I've seen

611
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: some dudes do some cold ship.

612
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 7: No, no, listen, before I get to that, did you

613
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 7: ever make a rabbit boy selling dope?

614
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah you did.

615
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: What was your best rabbit bou selling dope? What was

616
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: your best rabba by selling dope? That you remember?

617
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Ship?

618
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: Man?

619
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 4: It was so many of them. See, I was more

620
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: over the reality of a dog.

621
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't like no nigga. See every rapper, you hear.

622
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: Everybody, everybody wouldn't selling no four thirty forty keys.

623
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: Dog.

624
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: I never made the past the motherfucker zone.

625
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: You know. He was one of those You was just

626
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: getting that money.

627
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: I'm just a normal functional drug dealer. I just need

628
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: to get what I need to get for to day.

629
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: And I don't even know if I had no interest,

630
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 4: because you got to think about it. I was a dude.

631
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: Was just supplementing my income because I wasn't out there

632
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: to be doing that ship. I was out there just

633
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: caught up in the wrong. Get you get you, You

634
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying, Because you get some money, you

635
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: want to get some money. And my stuff was survival.

636
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: I didn't come from a background to where other niggas

637
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: in the apartment had parents send them one thousand dollars

638
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: a month or whatever. Man, I was lucky if I

639
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: got fifty dollars through Western Union. You, my people just

640
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: didn't have it, so I ain't even ask.

641
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: I just knew.

642
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 4: I said, I'm a thuget out here and eat these

643
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 4: rhyma noodles and hommies rock. Because my first hustle was weed.

644
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: I would get red hair says for forty dollars an ounce,

645
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: forty dollars an ounce. I would bag that shit up

646
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: dog and I'm gonna tell you ain't nothing like that

647
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 4: Reggie dog. Because it was an apartment for the long

648
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: beats for twenty five dollars, man, and they.

649
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: Would come over.

650
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: I got this deal for you for when I was

651
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: taking money, But then what happened with that? I had

652
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: roommates to smoke weed, so they started stealing my shit,

653
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: and so I was whooping them niggas, asked everything. And

654
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: then that money is a little bit slower because yeah,

655
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a couple hundred dollars on a weekend.

656
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: But it's you gotta think about it. Dudes on the

657
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: team that drove I'm talking about kill it out. We

658
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 4: was them trucks. They used to el caminos. They had

659
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: el caminos. Sam Rici's zokies with the beat. I started

660
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: looking at that. I said, man, I had I'm out here,

661
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: I'm sad to sell a whole bunch of reading your

662
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: syls do something like that. And then your boy fined me.

663
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 4: But fine B said, you know far because that's why

664
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: I talked, Cuz.

665
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: You a big nigga. Ain't nobody gonna fuck with us?

666
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: You know? Because Fami was kind of spoke and fire b.

667
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: C far Be is a warmonger and.

668
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 7: He got at you like how dash like how the

669
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 7: nigga got that dash on? I don't like to dream

670
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 7: about getting paid.

671
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: And he was like, mann't nobody's fucking with us? We

672
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: go go take this corner. So me and Farnby really

673
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: went to go take Ohio and Ana hind I'm talking

674
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: about from some niggas that was older than us. Now

675
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 4: we didn't have to do much. Farre beas coached me up.

676
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: He said, still big, he said, still don't be smiling

677
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: and just staying out there and just goon and that

678
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 4: nigga And I was it up on the corner that

679
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: nigga came out there. You could tell they was coming

680
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 4: and they watched it come to the corner and look

681
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 4: and then Pete and then I did like this, you know,

682
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: finly gave him a strap. Let them know, like like

683
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: like I'm holding right down to it. Next thing, next thing,

684
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 4: you know, I had the homie other homie out there.

685
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: It's about three of us, so finally put homie in

686
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: one corner right here. Then at the end, a little

687
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: system Warren get you.

688
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 5: Some dudes get in the game because they want to

689
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 5: make fast money or the imagery or whatever. That was

690
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 5: just the aspect, like I just need to get some bread.

691
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: Man. I was hungry, dog. I didn't have no money.

692
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go to school. That's why most people.

693
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: I was hungry, and it wasn't about greens there, and

694
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 4: I wanted to eat dog.

695
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want I want to know, like on this side,

696
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: like how you know what was what was the introduction

697
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 6: of I guess frankle Rocks. You know what I'm saying,

698
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: Like who was the first person or people that you

699
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 6: see that. It's just the same that dividus niggas making

700
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: money like this.

701
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: It's always been there. It's always been there. It's just

702
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: that in the South it stayed in the dope man

703
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: hands longer than it did everywhere else. See it stayed

704
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: in the grown people hands, like they didn't give it

705
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: the kids that like everybody else was probably balling in

706
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: New York, it was like here, you know, it's still

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: had them old men in the neighborhood like nah.

708
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: You can't do certain things.

709
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: So that's where it didn't really get off the chain

710
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: for us selling crack to after like mere eighties, you

711
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

712
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: So really I'm looking at the Miami niggas.

713
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: Was really what had this shit on our thing? It

714
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: was Miami started out like ten nine. They knew what

715
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: crack was way before Georgia, did you know, Like, so

716
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: Miami was fast. Yeah, they had to work. They was coming.

717
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: They were taking over George. They took over every project

718
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: back then. They took every project.

719
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: That's kind of how they did in Cleveland. Man. But

720
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: it wasn't a hostile takeover, was it.

721
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: No, Because at the same time project money. Yeah, everybody

722
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: in the project eating. And we also had the influx

723
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: of la at that time. See I know yellow ice

724
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: from from Compton, Like yellow.

725
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: Ice been here since the eighties, like it's.

726
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: Been shoreline crips been here since the eighties, you know

727
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's it's Crip's been here and

728
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: and Blood's been here. But they moved with they certain

729
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Atlanta dude and they got money. They didn't they didn't

730
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: bring the hood. They just say yeah. They they came

731
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: in like ice team, Like I'm here as an la

732
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: nigga talked to me.

733
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: That's it.

734
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 4: That's probably why the banging never got bad here, because

735
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 4: them dudes came out here with money.

736
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: Nah.

737
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: They would just come out here and late, they would

738
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: come out here to the West Side and they're laying

739
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: the project and they just la and we respect that.

740
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it was so much money

741
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: the actual banging thing. It was about money more what

742
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: they was about banging.

743
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't come away out here though, bang. You

744
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 3: come here to get some money.

745
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: So that's what everybody was on.

746
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 7: We always had that conversation, like I know, like in

747
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 7: summer vacation, that's the conversation.

748
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: It's like a hostile takeover.

749
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 7: But I would imagine most of the things that happened

750
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: wasn't really hostile. You come to somebody with an opportunity

751
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 7: for them, especially in Atlanta or Georgia, probably in the

752
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 7: eighties when the property was still like Georgia, I remember Atlanta.

753
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 7: I remember somebody was like, when I got something that's

754
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 7: gonna get you five hundred a day, that's life altering money,

755
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 7: so you ain't got to fight.

756
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Nobody was like all ten of us because Georgia tech

757
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: was really tech Wood.

758
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 3: That was the project, that whole all the way.

759
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: From the middle of downtown all the way back to

760
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: this side, that was the project.

761
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: So you talk about tech Wood, that's interesting. I've been

762
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: watching the BMF, you know, the whole little meets Ning

763
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 4: with his son and everything, and they mentioned tech Wood

764
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 4: in there.

765
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: Because tech Wood was like four cities inside of one place.

766
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: For it was like for Atlanta's, but it was all project.

767
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: Was there really one dude from Atlanta to try to

768
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: hold them dudes out for the longest, Yeah, because they

769
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: said it was.

770
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: It was a dude named Terry White used to run that.

771
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 4: That's probably who they talking about.

772
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: That's one of to do. He was even the first.

773
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: He was the first dope.

774
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: But that they caught in Atlanta that had a million

775
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: dollars in the wall like he he had been doing.

776
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 4: You know, you know what he was real man. Back

777
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: at home, my cousin j T, you know, j T

778
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 4: was j T was a ball like like my cousin,

779
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: so he really got busy. But I knew enough real

780
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: drug dealers all that. Like you know, no, this ain't

781
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: no distant ross. But you know we talked about all

782
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 4: the stuff he do. How new dudes that really was balling.

783
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: They didn't carry theyself like that.

784
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: They was very low key.

785
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: Who was walking around their motherfucking work suits and ship

786
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: driving bucket pull.

787
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: Up at the crib.

788
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: Nigga got the cleanest low wider in the garage and

789
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 5: all kind of ship.

790
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: But when you see that nigga on the street, you'll

791
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: be like this niggas thinking about me and Jay and

792
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: all them. I don't That's.

793
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 5: I think niggas got the game fucked up because because

794
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: of hip hop, hip popp is black flamboyant jip Poppas

795
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 5: is in your face.

796
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: You know, look at me, look at my chains, look

797
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: at my shoes. Streets is like that l A Streets.

798
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: That's what I learned when I got to l A

799
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: the first time we got to l A Street, I just.

800
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 3: Want to see somebody in the two extra.

801
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: He probably figured coping.

802
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: Up to my son.

803
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: He got those rules from Mike Casseiff Jonah. As soon

804
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: as we got to l A, they brought us to

805
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: Mike casseff Jong house and he told us the rule,

806
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: no jewelry, no colors, and stay with stay with Scottie Spencer.

807
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: That was That was the three things he told us.

808
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, your school never had a problem, got to spend

809
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: some Scotty moved us around l A like we went everywhere.

810
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: And you y'all still got that past the day in

811
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: that way because l A love goodie man, that ain't

812
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: even a past. That ain't a past. Nigga citizen.

813
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: Like you would like the citizen.

814
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you was citizen. Give us. I'm part of im,

815
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: part of I'm part of all.

816
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 5: As soon as you jump off the plane, boat or whatever,

817
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: nigga's gonna stick you up.

818
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 3: Niggas. And but he look like you got some money.

819
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: We just want some if you.

820
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean the flash the flashes, l A, dude, that

821
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I meant back then, ship Mac ten Mac Tim he

822
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: was flashy l A out here, hear him because coming

823
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: out here, you know, he was coming out here doing

824
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: the t B thing.

825
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: So I knew about that. My nigga, nigga, my nigga,

826
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 4: my nigga, Mac you know he was doing something I

827
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: think about I think they was out there doing something.

828
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: Who knows whatever.

829
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: Nigga, my nigga Mac, he gonna pull up today in

830
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 5: the rolls, they're gonna jump out that motherfucking tomorrow he

831
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 5: gonna pull up to the same spot in the and

832
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 5: then the next day he's gonna pull up to the

833
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: same spot in the jag or he on the Harley.

834
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't.

835
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 6: Know, man, never know that you could like you can't

836
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 6: do that in there. Like so like we're gonna carry

837
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: the l A. We're gonna think that niggas is just

838
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 6: as it is dangerous, you know, wherever you go as

839
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 6: as you niggas in l A, I'm not gonna try.

840
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: To do it.

841
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 7: So where you So Mac wasn't socializing where it was

842
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 7: a bunch of poor people that okay, in the city,

843
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 7: Mac is gonna were gonna see that the lake when

844
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 7: everybody used to go to lake with them. But it's

845
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 7: a lot of rich you know people that there definitely

846
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 7: you know, you talk about some money, so you know

847
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 7: what I mean, it's different if he if you the

848
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 7: first he did the boulevard was deal. That was the

849
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 7: first person I saw.

850
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 6: Do that something t like so mac he had to

851
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 6: already have done some Reconnaissanse of Scout, and he did

852
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 6: his homework to know.

853
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: Where he could do that or not do that at

854
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: because I can't. I can't.

855
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: I wouldn't try to do that nowhere. No, like just

856
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 6: for where we're from, like I just know what that.

857
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: Now we had I heart in the middle of Atlanta,

858
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: and I'm not finna come up here. I know.

859
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you the ice tea was the

860
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: only one I saw like that when I first hear La,

861
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: like the first person I saw on sunset in the

862
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: drop Top Point that was just.

863
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: Like that when we didn't go to sunset first.

864
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: Want to tell you he knew where to do everything.

865
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to let y'all know,

866
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 6: like that where we just just this gangster chronicles, like

867
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 6: not that it's gang banging, but it's it's it's like

868
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 6: we just we just knew like we we like like

869
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 6: hey said, like niggas doesn't leave their neighborhood, like their

870
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: whole life, their whole world, Like he won't even go

871
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 6: to the beach. The beach is eight minutes of work

872
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 6: from anywhere, like like y'all go to the beach, like

873
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 6: no know, Like that's that's the show lines of it

874
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 6: that insane, like say, like where you going exactly? Yes,

875
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 6: so so as far as having money and all that

876
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 6: inflexing and floss and that's like you.

877
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: You you teasing niggas, like you teasing wolves and that.

878
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 6: But you do it the way we do it, and

879
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 6: then the place you do that is on the bottom. Yeah,

880
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 6: where everybody is doing it.

881
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: I got those rules from from niggas before me. It's

882
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 5: like you, we're not flossy. We're not flossy.

883
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: We don't talk.

884
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: I don't like to be exposed when I'm in the

885
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 5: business of trying to make money illegally.

886
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 4: Everything was quiet on you one as much quieter.

887
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 3: Do you think this is a question because I always

888
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: asked still this.

889
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 7: Do you think that mentality kind of made it a

890
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 7: much more challenge for you and cam like in the

891
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 7: business because you like, if you look at art, because

892
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 7: I have the same problem you all have, right everybody.

893
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: I knew that I knew about three or four people

894
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 7: with a million dollars personally, but I can't none of

895
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 7: them wore jury. None of them wore nothing. They just

896
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 7: had the money. They had some cars. It's gonna have

897
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 7: like being hommy gonna have the rag. Sixty one got that,

898
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 7: he got the cabriole cut you want. You know, he

899
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 7: had it right, And I helped some of them. Count

900
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 7: Pluck had trade, you know what I mean. And the

901
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 7: Berdman that was a little too new.

902
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 3: Why are you in this? It's kind of new, you

903
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

904
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 7: So like the guys, I knew that had the money,

905
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 7: but do you think it made it more of a

906
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 7: challenge coming in hip hop because hip hop is built.

907
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: On that New York premise of flossiness.

908
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 6: So that's it exactly what A said, like West Coast

909
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 6: do even with scrapping, a beefing or whatever, like we're

910
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 6: not gonna talk about We're not gonna tell you about it.

911
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 6: But hip hop, especially East Coast, basis is talk talk talk.

912
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 6: Everything is the gift the gap and I'm gonna popping.

913
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 6: I'm popping my verbals like la niggas is the opposite

914
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 6: of that, like you're gonna do it? Oh, like oh

915
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 6: he gotta get mad, don't say you know what I'm saying.

916
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 6: It's feeling like surprise nigga. You know, I did an

917
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 6: interview and they was asking Glass show. You know, they

918
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 6: was asked me about dot right.

919
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: You know they know boy, They like yeah, you know

920
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 7: if he got you in it. I said, well, I'm

921
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 7: a dis nigga and get this out shute and well

922
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 7: you don't just keep it hip hop. That is hip

923
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 7: hop here. Yeah, you know what I mean.

924
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: I think you said disrespectful things about my mother. We're

925
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: supposed to pull up.

926
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 7: I don't know any other way this is supposed to happen. Yeah,

927
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 7: so all that.

928
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 6: Let me say something in the trio l A hip

929
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: hop well.

930
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 7: For business, business people scared to invest. But but pop

931
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 7: that was the worst thing in the world.

932
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 3: Biggie and Pop.

933
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 7: That was the worst thing world to happened to West Coast,

934
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: West coast hip for the South because they was like,

935
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 7: we got to go find somebody else.

936
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: These niggas is tripping.

937
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 5: And it was great for the It was great for

938
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 5: the what I call the sing songy era at in

939
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 5: that era to where they were frightened to deal with

940
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: l A niggas because we already had the bad reputation

941
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 5: from the gate gang bangers. You did me that's that

942
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: just we saw a lot of people up because of

943
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: the fact that niggas was gang bangs.

944
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying, so, yeah, you played the rowing and.

945
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 5: Biggie's death fucked us up because it made the label

946
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: dudes go, we don't wanna fuck with them anymore, right,

947
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: But then it introduced.

948
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: That that era.

949
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 5: You know, girl, I love you and hey, let's go

950
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: and have let's go, let's.

951
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 3: Go pop Champagnes and Platinum rolelegs.

952
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 4: That's how I felt when I seen Q Dude I'm clubbing.

953
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, exactly, Like it started affecting everybody to

954
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: the fact that niggas.

955
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: Like I say, like, yeah, but I seen you sit

956
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: during that Era's great.

957
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't that I didn't want to, but this

958
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: ship ain't working. They're afraid of us right now if

959
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 5: you consist that at that time, oh, they didn't want

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: fuck with us at all. That ship, the labels did

961
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 5: not want to fuck with us at all. Nigga who

962
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: portrayed themselves coming from Cali on some neighborhood ship, nigga,

963
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 5: they started killing everything. Death Rock Gone Ruthless couldn't get shipped.

964
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 5: Any nigga who was speaking street Ship when I fucking.

965
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,479
Speaker 3: Game was probably the last one.

966
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: Niggas was nothing each other, you know, party and they

967
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: was jewelry cut in and you know there was the

968
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 5: it was the flash era. You know, cash money came out,

969
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 5: was bling bling.

970
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: Each other, was kind of holding the baby. And I

971
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: hated that man before death Row like, you know, everybody

972
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: used to be the Montros.

973
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: But as as far as we win, you know what

974
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: I mean.

975
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: But when they start going to the Beverly Hills Hotel and.

976
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: All that other stuff, it was like, I never been there.

977
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: I ain't never pass with them.

978
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: Bro.

979
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 3: He like, ain't come up to the hotel. I like where.

980
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm like what, that's out of town. That's

981
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: out of town, you know, like come here, Like, hey,

982
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna cross. I'm gonna cross one team, talk about it.

983
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: Guess come up there.

984
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, you got to send a plane. I don't know,

985
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 5: you know, a helicomists. Yeah, I say, young nigga, I

986
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 5: can go nowhere here This question forget?

987
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 4: Can we getting older?

988
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: Right?

989
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: You know, as long as you live, you get older.

990
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: This generation the kids really scared me because I be

991
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: studying music, I making my business to know who everybody is,

992
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: and you know, study what they're talking about. There seems

993
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 4: to be and I think this all started with Wayne,

994
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: you know, with the whole lean movement and you know,

995
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: and he picked it up, you know, from the boys

996
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 4: in Texas.

997
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: Right.

998
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: So there's a massive opiate epidemic right now and hip

999
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: hop dog and nobody is paying attention to it. What

1000
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: nobody but but listen, but listen to me. I'm listening

1001
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: to what these kids are doing. And I counted the references.

1002
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 4: You know, remember I was listening to Detroit stuff you used,

1003
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: like all the music. It's like everything is murder. It's like,

1004
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 4: you know, don't get me wrong. We talked about killing

1005
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: up some shit. You know, I'm talking about the you know,

1006
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: you know, so you know that, but you can tell

1007
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: it was more just in a boastfoot way, right like

1008
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: we're talking about we holding some shit down these kids

1009
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: right here. Man, it's a sense of authenticity dog to

1010
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 4: where it's like I believe these little niggas is doing.

1011
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 4: And then you see the stuff that happened with like

1012
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: the little kid of King Vaughn down here, but that

1013
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: wasn't really.

1014
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: Hold I would I would just say this, I would

1015
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: just say that a lot of them are killers, A

1016
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: lot of them, A lot of them, A lot of

1017
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: them are killers.

1018
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: Like play with them and you want today are killers?

1019
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. That's what you had to

1020
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 4: have on the street here, you know what I mean.

1021
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: And the labels started paying for that. That's the labels

1022
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: just start paying for that, you know what I mean.

1023
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Once they understood that kids reacted to that, then that's

1024
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: what they start paying for. Because when you you you

1025
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: got to understand, like Kodak, that is a pop star.

1026
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: That's a gangst rapper. So is it?

1027
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: Is it because he wanted to be that? Or they

1028
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: started giving him records. It might not be the records

1029
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: he make it, but they started giving him the records. See,

1030
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that makes us different than all

1031
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: the other people. That was probably most successful to us.

1032
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: We never accepted them people records and their ideas. That's

1033
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: why I think we lived in the greatest era. We

1034
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: did it all our own, you know what I mean.

1035
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: And I think most of these kids now they manufactured

1036
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: at least five five five of those records are manufactured.

1037
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: And if the if the fixing, then shid the money playing,

1038
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: So it don't matter about the rest of the stuff.

1039
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 4: You're talking about, and there's no silence, and there's no

1040
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 4: and there's no element of silence to it, and it

1041
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: makes me think it like, I go back to the

1042
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: sixties when I think about that, right, I say, damn,

1043
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: we in the sixties all over again with the heroin

1044
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 4: academic because I remember it. I remember growing up in Cleveland.

1045
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: I can remember back to when I was seven years old.

1046
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 4: I would walk to the back of our building and

1047
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: it was all needles on the ground, a bunch of needles.

1048
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 4: And my mama pupped my ass one day as I

1049
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: went outside with no shoes on, and she saw me

1050
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 4: and it was like a panic. She had them saying

1051
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: those on them them and whooped my ass because you

1052
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 4: know it was heroin, you know heroin. It was needles

1053
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: all up and down the street near needles all in

1054
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: the gutter and everything else. And I see that right now, man,

1055
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: And I think about, like how addictive that stuff feels,

1056
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 4: and it's almost impossible to get off of it once

1057
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: you it's really got you, bro, It's hard. It's like

1058
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: they keep reintroducing the same drugs to us all over

1059
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: again in our community. But it's always in a different form,

1060
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: and now they dress it up to where it's fashionable.

1061
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 4: Because I remember when UGK and the cast in Texas

1062
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: was doing it, it was cool. But when Lil Wayne

1063
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: became a pop star. I told Glasses this, I noticed

1064
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: an increasing the niggas. They had dreads and here the

1065
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 4: niggas walking down the street with styrophone cups, even if

1066
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: they didn't know what the hell he had. And the

1067
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: niggas had Hennessy and everything else in there. But it

1068
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: became almost like a culture within itself. It's like a

1069
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 4: drug coature.

1070
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: Now, like I heard of the biggest drug culture is

1071
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 6: doctor Fauci in there, that f d A.

1072
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 3: We just.

1073
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: Well, the Faucy situation right there just should let everybody

1074
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: know that the drug game is the biggest game in America.

1075
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: Trill. You you know, Trill, as long that we not

1076
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: in on it? Are we in on it?

1077
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 4: Slide a bike and.

1078
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 7: Right, and you niggas got going on and they all

1079
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 7: in and they gonna have to worry about the police.

1080
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: Get and it's it's a different and it's a difference.

1081
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: It's a difference. It's like it's like that's why everything

1082
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: you understand me.

1083
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be in mind to Roger, you

1084
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: better do some coke, bitch. Get that's what's going on,

1085
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: real talk, that's what's going on. It's even you likeing

1086
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: frit you.

1087
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: Like thet tell you the pop a fucking po right

1088
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 5: now and and and sniff something right now.

1089
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 6: So yeah, but when it was really weed back in

1090
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 6: the days, I'm saying, was it you remember it?

1091
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1092
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 6: I remember when Purple first first got orange and Purple first.

1093
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 7: Y'all remember the spot they had on NORDR Chronic spot

1094
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 7: three for fifty barrel three back when we was.

1095
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: We so what?

1096
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: So tell me what was that week? Because I remember

1097
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: the first time we bought some Chronic and it was

1098
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: them little Christmas trees in the bag.

1099
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: We never had anything like that, never had.

1100
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 3: In the beginning. It was done.

1101
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 5: But stress you might have you a little indough maybe

1102
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 5: some time. The only ones that really pocket hoods had

1103
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 5: the end dog they home me on the ninety six

1104
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 5: in Normandy Nail Long Drive Don't fucking Around Man ninety

1105
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: six and Normandy Nigga I was.

1106
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 4: They had the fire. I ate don't like stuff like this,

1107
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 4: but I think we should at least touched on it

1108
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 4: because it's news and was crazy that this whole thing

1109
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: that just happened to dubad dog, that was crazy. No,

1110
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 4: that's not a current talk dog. Yeah, while they were

1111
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: seating them clouds and shouldn't caused the instruction. Yeah, they

1112
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 4: was over the Seaton. Did you year about that? They

1113
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: was over the Seaton?

1114
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: Who said that.

1115
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: They was over the seating the reporters white people? M hmm,

1116
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they was. People said that, so that

1117
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 4: wasn't they hold on? The white media rebuked that. They

1118
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 4: said they didn't have nothing to do with them seating

1119
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: the clouds. All had everything to do with them with

1120
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 4: them clouds. There were alternative news sources to say that,

1121
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: and the news try to rebuke it.

1122
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 6: Like I had a real issue with especially us, like

1123
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 6: giving white folks to credit like they're the super.

1124
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: Scientists god, like they the gods and the weather Like

1125
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: now all of a.

1126
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 6: Sudden, anything that happened is hard or it's this to

1127
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 6: see cloud Like why why Nigga can't say it's the

1128
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 6: original man, the black man that's doing that. You know

1129
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Why is the white man got the

1130
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 6: power to fuck up the weather and control the weather

1131
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 6: and shit, and we giving them God power. But we're

1132
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 6: the ones that's on the pyramids, were the ones that

1133
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 6: God couldn't make it to the moon, you know what

1134
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So why we can't say, like, no, that's

1135
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 6: that's black people doing that. That's why people doing that,

1136
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

1137
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: Why So why you think that you know what the clouds?

1138
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a science, but you can't contruct like

1139
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 6: how you gotta have clouds to see them?

1140
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers?

1141
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 6: Like if it's not no clouds in Dubai, what you whatever?

1142
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: You come to the ground. Have you been in the

1143
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 6: Baie before? I've been over there, Bro, Do you see

1144
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 6: when you go over there and see it, Bro, you

1145
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 6: would just know that that's like an anomaly that was very strange.

1146
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 6: But this was because the way they weather, of the

1147
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 6: way they climb. It was like you would think it

1148
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 6: would be the last thing you would have maggined you Rode.

1149
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 6: You read the Bible before, right, so it's gonna say

1150
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 6: earthquakes and diverse places and weather all kind of shit

1151
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 6: right in New York, right.

1152
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: So so that's what I'm getting to.

1153
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 6: So I'm saying, So, so somebody seen that ship thousands

1154
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 6: of years ago. So do that mean they seen white

1155
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 6: people developing the technology to make that happen? Or is

1156
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 6: the same people like Heart only got came online in

1157
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety eight or some shit ninety three or some shit.

1158
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 6: So what what was what was causing all this shit

1159
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 6: before Heart?

1160
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: You know what I think, man, and I'm being honest

1161
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: with you. I think that we get access to certain

1162
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 4: technology that we steal and we try to and we

1163
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 4: we we you know, other people.

1164
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 8: I'm trying always, I'm always I'm always sitting that there,

1165
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 8: you know American.

1166
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 4: But you know, because I'm talking about it, right, I

1167
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: think they messing with stuff they have no clue on.

1168
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying. It's like a little four

1169
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 4: year old coming in there finding your ev YO three

1170
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: and now he got it, and everybody in the room

1171
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: go get killed because he as soon as he pulled

1172
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: that thing to get the bad and every Mike's gonna

1173
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 4: be dead.

1174
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying to me, I have zero favorite.

1175
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 7: I'm probably the greatest syneg in the way. I don't

1176
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 7: think they went to the moon yet because they would

1177
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 7: have went back. I've been watching that. Uh, the boy,

1178
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 7: the white man in South Africa, all that money, he

1179
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 7: ain't got to the moon.

1180
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: Still, you know what, I think it's a lot of

1181
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 4: hoax out there. I also think it's a lot of

1182
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 4: stuff that's that's definitely real too. Like and with the

1183
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 4: thing I don't see, I think that's just that's just

1184
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 4: a very small symptom. Whatever it was, it was out

1185
00:56:58,800 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 4: of control.

1186
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 6: Because they be able to do that level.

1187
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Because do you know how much? And I'm gonna tell

1188
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: you something, and this all coincide with something else too,

1189
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: I think it's a bigger player at hand. America just

1190
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: pulled the most games to move every dog. And they

1191
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: pretty much told TikTok, y'all gotta sell his mother, y'all

1192
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: get the fuck out the country.

1193
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean that ain't really gangs of China, but doing

1194
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: it to this motherfucker. Ever, you can't use Google, you

1195
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: can't use a up three four different things in China.

1196
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 3: China own the motherfucking infrastructure of America.

1197
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, they owned a lot of this.

1198
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 7: So what I'm saying, So I'm saying now they just

1199
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 7: actually tired of getting punked every day out the whole time.

1200
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 4: What is it?

1201
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 3: Google? Google is over there.

1202
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 7: All kinds of Facebook ship, but they do their thing.

1203
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 7: But that that's the concept of freedom, you know. I

1204
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 7: mean that that.

1205
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: So what y'all think happened over there, because I don't

1206
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: want to get away from that over in Dubai.

1207
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: I just think that man right now is changing the

1208
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Earth's natural being. I just think that man is just

1209
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: changing Earth's natural being, and that's God's reaction to it.

1210
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 6: I think that God is in man and man is God.

1211
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: So you know, that's you know, me coming from you

1212
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 6: know why the powers that we give credit to some

1213
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 6: invisible entity, that's really the power of the original man

1214
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 6: and woman, you know. And when I say original, we're

1215
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 6: not talking about you know, we're talking about the people

1216
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 6: with the melan and you know what I'm saying. So

1217
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 6: we got them natural abilities, just the fact that mind

1218
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 6: over matter exists. The fact you can think about a

1219
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 6: female and you can see in blood rushing to your

1220
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 6: private parts. That's mind manipulating matter. That's moving matter, you

1221
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. And we got that outside of

1222
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 6: We got that ability outside of us. But if we poison,

1223
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 6: if somebody didn't fed us the wrong food food and

1224
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: calcified our pioneal gland and keep us distracted with poisons

1225
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 6: and all of that, then we're not gonna be able

1226
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 6: to tap into that outside ability. But some of us

1227
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 6: have always never lost our outside of a buildy. The

1228
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 6: original people that built the pyramids and high sciences and

1229
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: all of that, the Dogon tribes them as are people.

1230
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 6: They never failed for the poison and the devices and

1231
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: all of that.

1232
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 3: That that we didn't fail for.

1233
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 6: So they've been keeping that secret, secret society knowledge that

1234
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 6: high righteous gods sign you know, not no God, ain't

1235
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 6: no mystery, got spook fantasy, fairy tale. God is the

1236
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 6: original black man. I mean, you know, I got to

1237
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 6: say what it is black people, original indigenous people. All

1238
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: people are gods. But you could be a wicked god.

1239
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 6: You can be a righteous guy. Yeah, So so we

1240
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 6: don't get it. We know harp exists. They can they

1241
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 6: can cause earthquakes, they can cause storms.

1242
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: And all that.

1243
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 6: Okay, well that just started in nineteen ninety something. Who

1244
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 6: was doing all the storms before that?

1245
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Us?

1246
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 6: You know, our people, I ain't talking about the slaves

1247
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 6: and mentally dead with nasses and but our answers, you know,

1248
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 6: are are scientists, our holy white scientists. That's where they

1249
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 6: got secret societies from that's that whole blueprint was was

1250
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 6: off of righteous God original circles of scientists, and they yeah,

1251
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 6: they just perverted and they got their wicked scientists called

1252
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 6: Illuminati or Satan or Synagogue or Satan and all of that.

1253
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: So don't don't be.

1254
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 6: Quick to give the credit to all this stuff that's

1255
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 6: going on to some some pink people.

1256
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's just a lot of madnes's going on

1257
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: in the world now, and I'd like to touch some

1258
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 4: stuff his are once in a while, you know what

1259
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1260
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's my problem, mate, That's what I'm saying.

1261
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 7: Like, it made it hard for me come in in

1262
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 7: a business because the people that I thought was the

1263
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 7: ship was a representation of the people that I lived with,

1264
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 7: thought my older homies to this day.

1265
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: So it makes it a challenge, you know what I mean.

1266
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,959
Speaker 7: And I always knew it would be a challenge coming

1267
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 7: into rap still because of the people, Like people do

1268
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 7: want to see you gouts. But that's why I have

1269
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 7: faith in a lot of the early West Coast pioneers

1270
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 7: and all of the stuff that happened, because they showed that.

1271
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: That's why hip hop on the West was so successful

1272
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: because it was for the everyday person at to be.

1273
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 6: It represented the rebellion against the mainstream machine like MTVS

1274
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 6: or whatever music and whatever entertainment was. West Coast rap,

1275
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 6: gangster rap represented the.

1276
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 5: Rebellion exactly because they hated us and West Coast to

1277
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 5: play us. They didn't want to play us. Coachyros didn't

1278
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 5: want to play our songs. They really hated West Coast music.

1279
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 5: And we was making a gang of you know, we

1280
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 5: were trying to stabilize us ourselves off that ship.

1281
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 3: You give me.

1282
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 5: I started rapping because I wanted to get about the hood.

1283
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 5: I want to get up out of poverty. You get

1284
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 5: me straight up.

1285
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: You can make money back there. Did you see it

1286
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 3: like that?

1287
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: But it makes money. I didn't make money off of around,

1288
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: you know.

1289
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 7: I'm saying when you first start rapping, I can't believe

1290
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 7: y'all really saw it as an economic ploy. I was

1291
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 7: rich from rapping. Maybe the closest person would have been easy.

1292
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 7: I never like who was rich.

1293
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: Ice Tea is the only person and he and you

1294
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: had I'm sure he had heard stories about him. I

1295
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: heard stories for sure.

1296
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 6: Y'all heard, yeah, Ice Tea And then Tone Low like

1297
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 6: shouts out tone, like was the one that kind of

1298
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 6: like I seen on MPV and stuff like that. But

1299
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 6: on some hood level, like like A said, we wasn't

1300
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 6: doing it for money. We was doing it for females,

1301
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 6: like female like if you know, you know females is

1302
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 6: liking your ship, you know what I'm saying. So when

1303
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 6: you was, we was riding around like like his first

1304
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 6: album with One Time gapping them up and late night

1305
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 6: hype and all that, like that was a hood east

1306
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 6: side and classic God.

1307
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what what whether he made no money off.

1308
01:02:53,640 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 5: Of Honestly, I got I started rapping because cause I

1309
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 5: looked at it as a way to keep me out

1310
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 5: of jail or not getting killed because we were seriously

1311
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood. I didn't know if I was gonna

1312
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 5: make no money off of this ship because I didn't

1313
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 5: know shit off of I ain't no shit about it.

1314
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 5: I didn't know shit about technicals and fucking royal tees

1315
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 5: and shin and all that.

1316
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 4: Sh All I wanted to do was put a record.

1317
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: How let niggas know.

1318
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 6: About count staying out of jail by doing doing shows?

1319
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 6: Like how was you getting money? How did you see it. No, No,

1320
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 6: not that.

1321
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 7: How did you because that's what I'm trying to figure out,

1322
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 7: y'all didn't grow.

1323
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 3: The closest person that.

1324
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 7: Would have had to have some money that y'all could

1325
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 7: have saw would have been probably.

1326
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: Like iced tea, you know what I mean?

1327
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 5: Or easy maybe easy when they come to when it

1328
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 5: came to financials. If I looked at it, I didn't

1329
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 5: look at nobody on the West Coast. I looked at

1330
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 5: them East Coast niggas. I looked at niggas like run

1331
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 5: DMC and them. Niggas was nigga. They had Houdini and

1332
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 5: fucking run them. Niggas had tours going through them. Now

1333
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 5: didn't Did I think I could make some money?

1334
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. But my my.

1335
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: Quest to really become conscious, most wanted was to let

1336
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: people know about what's going.

1337
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: On over here. You get me over there.

1338
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: They fun with it.

1339
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: Nigga.

1340
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: We got shot at last night, Nigga, last night three

1341
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 5: of us went to the holding.

1342
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: Take me. They act like they didn't get shot at.

1343
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 3: That's the truth.

1344
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they. I think they figured out it

1345
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 5: was something about them figuring out the formula to We're

1346
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 5: not gonna talk about that ship.

1347
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 6: But that's what it was. It was more it was

1348
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 6: more g rated radio f c C. Like you wasn't

1349
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 6: saying certain stuff. You wasn't saying like West Coast broke

1350
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 6: that mold he was talking about.

1351
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: My point was they was getting shot into.

1352
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 5: They fobably. They just knew they couldn't talk about it. Yeah,

1353
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: they like you get me listening to run DMC and

1354
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 5: you heard my d this. You listen to LLL and

1355
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 5: you heard I Need Love on my radio. You listen

1356
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 5: to Whudini, you heard five minutes of funking friends.

1357
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: You get me.

1358
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 5: It was all fun and games. It wasn't. It wasn't

1359
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 5: funny games. Even though yeah niggas rapping and Wootie won't nigga.

1360
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 5: I still got to go home tonight when I leave,

1361
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 5: really got to drive through Compton. I get on MARDIQ.

1362
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: Was the closest thing on from New York ship to

1363
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: l A. To me, that was that was like gangs,

1364
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: the shook one.

1365
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 5: That that was kind of like didn't look at never

1366
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 5: looked at New York rappers.

1367
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 4: And like you said, of course they had to cool.

1368
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 5: G raps and there they had to justice and ship.

1369
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 5: You know, they had to grind me, niggas all that ship.

1370
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 5: But to me, New York was success. You get me,

1371
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 5: because that's what that's what. That was the mecca of

1372
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 5: the music industry. So you have to go there to

1373
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 5: get your record, your damn right, shouts out to King T.

1374
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 6: So King T to me kind of broke the mold

1375
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 6: like Ice Tea did it in a certain way. But

1376
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 6: then King T brought it to King T kept it home. Yeah,

1377
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 6: he kept it home because he's he knew how to

1378
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 6: speak that lingo. He sounded like people too. Yeah yeah,

1379
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 6: so so shouts south King T. He the one you

1380
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 6: know for me on some street grimy ship it was.

1381
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 6: It was Toddy T, mixed Master Spade, uh, mixed Master

1382
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 6: King DJ story, it was all that mixed man.

1383
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 3: Crazy.

1384
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 7: But this is a real question still you would get

1385
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 7: in on this. Actually he wasn't in LA when at

1386
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 7: this time, this is early eighties. How did y'all feel

1387
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 7: about the rappers rap disco company?

1388
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 3: Right? That's so, that's that's the cubs. Uh what's the

1389
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: brother's name? He's all the real hard times as what.

1390
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 7: But they were like the first I don't call it

1391
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 7: West Coast hip hop.

1392
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: I call it hip hop.

1393
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 7: On the West Coach, right, that's the song bad Times

1394
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 7: that was What's.

1395
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 3: Crazy is the boys from Minneapolis. That was one of

1396
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: the first productions Jimmy Jame Terry. They did that.

1397
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 4: Then Clidan s Anderson released that record Bad Times Done.

1398
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 4: It's that record that.

1399
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 7: Making all the answers to the East Coast Records. So

1400
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 7: when they had Rappers Delight, they came out with that song.

1401
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 7: It was a song where it was rapping over the

1402
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 7: disco sample and uh, bad Times was a response to

1403
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 7: the message.

1404
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: It was kind of their version of they were talking

1405
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: about game banging in La.

1406
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 4: Let me land on something real quick too, you know

1407
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: v I P Records. Of course on Big give Y

1408
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: with vf P Records, Calvin is h not Calvin, Cleatans

1409
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: is Clouds big brother and the rapper Appsode was grandfather,

1410
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 4: you know, like record retail royalty pretty much in l A.

1411
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: They had stories everywhere at the time when black retail

1412
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 4: was really cracking across the country. You know, he released

1413
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 4: a lot of those records. I just found that out.

1414
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: I was talking to Calvin maybe a month ago and

1415
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: they was releasing a lot of those records.

1416
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 7: What's the dude Snoop got that line from Blood.

1417
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: What's his name?

1418
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking about the radio activities there you go.

1419
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, well, how did how did Joe Cooley

1420
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: and Rode Neil fall in all of that in l

1421
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: A because they was one of them, the one that

1422
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: met l Yeah.

1423
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 5: That was like that was like in the beginning of

1424
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 5: us trying to find our identity as West Coast.

1425
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: Yes, because they had finger Ways.

1426
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 4: Makes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, drinks, but they had finger

1427
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 4: Ways like Coolie came in that they messed with.

1428
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: And all them.

1429
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:04,480
Speaker 5: That's when they you know, because we were trying to

1430
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 5: to me, I think we were trying to change our identity.

1431
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: As far as music.

1432
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 5: We had Wrecking Crew, like you said, we had l

1433
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 5: A Dream Team, We had Egypt and then Unknown had

1434
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 5: Techno hop. A lot of our music wasn't It wasn't

1435
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 5: even East Coast, you get me.

1436
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 3: Because the Egyptian lovel record.

1437
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 5: That's to me that that was like, that was like

1438
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 5: the that was like the hardest record to me. Emma

1439
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 5: beat Goose Booms.

1440
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 9: Like that was that was that was I'm gonna tell

1441
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 9: you a record that influenced the East, South and West

1442
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 9: Coast every everything early on was the derivative of Planet Rock.

1443
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 3: Well, I think Egyptian Lover for surets Planet.

1444
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 4: Rock, you know, came like the whole thing, the whole vibe.

1445
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 4: Everything was like that. Planet Rock was a big ass

1446
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: record the South of Miami through a land of the

1447
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 4: whole Miami Base. And I tell you all this, Frosty,

1448
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you you might not this. You knew

1449
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 4: what they call Miami Base now, Magic Mike tell you

1450
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 4: Mike J.

1451
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: Mike used to beat Man, Yeah, mister Mix always, but

1452
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: Magic might be something.

1453
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 5: I could never understand how a motherfucker sold so many records.

1454
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 5: We was just a fucking PRODUCERO or whatever. I used

1455
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 5: to be like this nigga selling triple flat. Wonder what

1456
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 5: you're the Magic Mic.

1457
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: He was before mister Mix because he's before two Live Group.

1458
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Magic Mike was all through the South. Man, I'm

1459
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 5: telling you. I used to get them reports and because

1460
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 5: it was team on them reports back then, I used

1461
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 5: to be how.

1462
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: The fuck is a dude doing beats.

1463
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 5: Just and and and fucking hip hop eight O eight

1464
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 5: party beat That nigga was selling that.

1465
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 3: Because how people wanted to dance?

1466
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 7: It all go to people wanting to dance, and then

1467
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 7: we start evolving. All the staffs right, all other staffs

1468
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 7: came from it. But that's why hammer did so good,

1469
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 7: That's why heavy.

1470
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 3: D did so good. When you could dance to the music.

1471
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,759
Speaker 7: That's almost kind of the greatest part of music like that,

1472
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 7: that pays a life.

1473
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 10: And that's and and and that's what's so hard that

1474
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 10: I didn't get I didn't get it, but never I

1475
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 10: never envisioned myself for writing let's get it started, or

1476
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 10: writing a motherfucking.

1477
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 3: Everyone knows pay It's the tempo of the beat.

1478
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 4: It's the closest I ain't got to. It was grills, yeah,

1479
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 4: because I'm gonna tell you though, broke sitting off the

1480
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: closest I got through it. Element that the South due

1481
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 4: got dog that we got away from it. It is

1482
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 4: that either way dog, that that that.

1483
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 7: Boom, Well, it's it's just a lot more lower. You

1484
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 7: were pioneering, or I would take Nigga slipped Love at

1485
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 7: eight o eight.

1486
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 3: It's crazy, didn't give.

1487
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 7: A fuck pioneer in the version of hip hop that

1488
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 7: wasn't about this. Oh yeah, you didn't really chill about

1489
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 7: Consolos won. But who do you remember in the eighties

1490
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 7: that didn't have music that you party to.

1491
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: This is gonna suck you up. Who do you remember

1492
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: in the n W you party to? W A oh,

1493
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: definitely something dance to and.

1494
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 4: Those are dance records. Express yourself on that.

1495
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: So think about right too? Is dance wow thing making

1496
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 3: all that shit young gim Young Gim seed.

1497
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 4: They didn't make no dance music, but you just have

1498
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 4: no hooks like you really need.

1499
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 3: Quick is dance music.

1500
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 7: Even the first Doggie style chronic there was dance songs

1501
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 7: all that Leon Demi songs that you party two y'all

1502
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 7: kind of pioneered the rap that you're talking about.

1503
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 3: You never really chipped off of.

1504
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 5: No, I didn't I but what I did is I

1505
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 5: heard those dudes I don't want to do that type of.

1506
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 6: Shit since we want to do that. So what made

1507
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 6: you on that tip? Like what made you feel comfortable

1508
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 6: when they're doing that? Like because I know that's something

1509
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 6: that we grew up listening to. That's like nigga got

1510
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 6: to clean up the house on Saturday morning whatever mine's

1511
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 6: or grandmama or whatever. But what made you feel comfortable

1512
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 6: rapping to that type of beat like them Slow Gangster

1513
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 6: beats because that's hard, that's hard to do.

1514
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 5: I felt that I could be more descriptive with people.

1515
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 5: I wanted people to understand what I was talking about.

1516
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 5: You know, some rappers, you know, you get on you

1517
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,440
Speaker 5: hear them, it take you about three or four listens

1518
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 5: to like, what do you say on that part?

1519
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 3: What do you say on it?

1520
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 5: I really wanted to explain to you what was the

1521
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 5: struggles being in the neighborhood. So I would only pick

1522
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 5: sinisters type slow beats because I said I could explain

1523
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: myself and I could get it could hit home to you.

1524
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 3: So I think I think more.

1525
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 6: It's like how you naturally speak, Like on West Coast,

1526
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 6: we speak slow, you know what I'm saying. So you're

1527
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 6: gonna pick a tempo and a vibe like you say sinister, dark, whatever.

1528
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 6: But it's gonna be a tempo where I can naturally

1529
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 6: speak my natural cadence, like I'm not trying to so fast.

1530
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1531
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 6: I'm talking about this, how I really this, I ate

1532
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 6: really talk. It's how Chill really talks. You know what

1533
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Let the beat breathe.

1534
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 5: I plattered myself for niggas like us I didn't really

1535
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 5: look for like I need that song to wear, I'm

1536
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 5: gonna give me a couple of bitches freaking in the club,

1537
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 5: or I need to get that radio hit.

1538
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: So I never thought like that. Man, did you let

1539
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 4: me ask you this? We was in Atlanta, dog, I

1540
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 4: want to get some Atlanta into right now?

1541
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 3: Still is a day it's in rope on the opposite

1542
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 3: the end.

1543
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: Everything down this way is driven by the club, or

1544
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 4: is it still that way?

1545
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: Always?

1546
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna always be the strip club. That's the strip

1547
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: It'll always be the strip club. Because the strip club.

1548
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: You can go in the strip club and instantly get

1549
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: a reaction for your music when you can't get that

1550
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: in nowhere else in the country.

1551
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: Who you're gonna get it from the way the girls

1552
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 3: vibe to it because.

1553
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,480
Speaker 4: It's the girls.

1554
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: It's like, at the end of the day, like every

1555
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: big record that come out of Atlanta is because it

1556
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: came out of.

1557
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 3: The strip club because of how the girls dance. Yeah.

1558
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 1: And another thing is because every time they feel like

1559
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: they control in one area of Atlanta, then another strip

1560
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: club to find another hit from the street. So that's

1561
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: why I say, as long as Atlanta got a strip club.

1562
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: They'll never be able to stop the music that we

1563
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: create here because you don't.

1564
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 4: Even have to come in and that's why it's soft.

1565
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 4: Like I think that's an advantage because we used to

1566
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 4: have a cold club scene in l at the strip

1567
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 4: club scene.

1568
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 3: To take me to the.

1569
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: First first person strip club, What's corrupt. Cor Corrupt was

1570
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: the first one to take me to a strip club

1571
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: in l A.

1572
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 3: I was.

1573
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, yo, this is different. It's

1574
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: not lame.

1575
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 3: It's just it will remind me more of a cheetah downtown,

1576
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, like I was, I.

1577
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: Was kind of like, okay, And then when they put

1578
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: the one in Hollywood that was kind of like more black.

1579
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: They were trying to you know, Cavity was over there,

1580
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: like that was more black.

1581
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 7: But I talked so bad about strip clubs and prostitutes

1582
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 7: because I never saw good ship.

1583
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 3: I mean still, I went to mind me. I was

1584
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: shout out to eat class, right.

1585
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 7: I was with the class, and the motherfucker took me

1586
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 7: to what's the one that's like a gym. It's like

1587
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 7: a basketball gym full of bitch.

1588
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 3: That's that's the that's the that's the big one. That's

1589
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 3: uh that's a man. I seen these girls coming down,

1590
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 3: it's like a wet house.

1591
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 7: Ninety miles an hour eight and stopping on the showmanship.

1592
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 3: They had that showmanship.

1593
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 4: Me.

1594
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 7: I was like, Oh, this is what this ship is about.

1595
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 7: Then motherfuckers was doing flips on top of flips.

1596
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 3: Flips over people, over people. It was like, oh this

1597
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 3: is what Oh I get it, I throw somebody.

1598
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you go to the bar because you're not. Yeah,

1599
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 4: strip club scene was like the barb.

1600
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 3: It was. It was just to get on for.

1601
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 4: Going one going to strip clubs, like.

1602
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 5: That's that's what strepsed. So I never got into the

1603
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 5: strip club scene.

1604
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 4: You to the first King and see how you want you.

1605
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 5: I want you a good I want you a good

1606
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 5: neighborhood rat nigga. That's just just can't hear me, man,

1607
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 5: please king hear they come off first kid.

1608
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: That key hearing nigga was even.

1609
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 7: But even prostitutes like at home, I'm like, how could

1610
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 7: you buy because I guess growing up, you know on

1611
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 7: Long Beach or on fig you only seen strawberry. You

1612
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 7: didn't see regular girl.

1613
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 3: So I remember when I first started seeing real prostitute

1614
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,799
Speaker 3: going on, I was like, oh, this is what people

1615
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: pay for.

1616
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 7: Because my whole life I grew up understanding what sugar freedom,

1617
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 7: ire can't pay for this.

1618
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: And Uncle Luke made that made it look so good

1619
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: back then, like he he really made it look great.

1620
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: Uncle Luke was a traveling six show.

1621
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: That was Yeah, that was that was pooring. That was porn.

1622
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 4: Yo was out already when the well was the thing

1623
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 4: still going on down there?

1624
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 3: Freament? Yeah, man, see them with some Did you ever

1625
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 3: go to freemik m you never.

1626
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 4: Want to free? Oh?

1627
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I that's man, that's what too

1628
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 1: short cocaine.

1629
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I watched the ship. That's a great

1630
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: marketing tool. It was great.

1631
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 5: It was great for them breaking out casts and all

1632
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 5: the groups down here because like he said, everything was

1633
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 5: the strip clubs and short nick and ship like that.

1634
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 5: Now you start promoting them records and ship won't want

1635
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 5: everybody jump on. It was a great it was. It

1636
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 5: was a great atmosphere to It changed his life.

1637
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: He said, that's why he moved down here. Freaking He said, man,

1638
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 3: this is something my.

1639
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 5: Homebreak things and ship like thirty years ago, and he

1640
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,440
Speaker 5: talked about it to this day.

1641
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 4: Swear to god, man, they could talk about.

1642
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: We were just talking about and he said, Man, did

1643
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 3: you see the Freak Nick movie? He said, oh my god, Man,

1644
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 3: I remember, Man, we could jump.

1645
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 5: Out the car and walk to Blotch and be beating

1646
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 5: because it's just women everywhere and that all.

1647
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 4: Man, I had such a great time. Man, I hate

1648
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: that I never got back down there, I said, fucking

1649
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 4: fifty years old.

1650
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: It was a lovely point about hip hop, like how

1651
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: we break records, right, they break records.

1652
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 7: Through the strip club, and when people can't have a

1653
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 7: Freak Nick, they could leave without cast a goodie mob.

1654
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 7: We had our we had the party scenes where that's

1655
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 7: where we was breaking all the records, right, So that's

1656
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 7: why all the records did well. But if you look

1657
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 7: at like right now, they still have the strip club

1658
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 7: and at home obviously, as were losing more urban and scenery,

1659
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 7: you don't have urban clubs or even the clubs in

1660
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 7: Hollywood that was being urbanized.

1661
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: There aren't.

1662
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 7: They ain't are as urbanized anymore, so you don't have

1663
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 7: a way to break records and some of the that's

1664
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 7: why you started.

1665
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: Guess what social media did they fire fella fil I was,

1666
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: that's so sad, you know, his mama, stay in college, Paul,

1667
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: he didn't come home. Yeah, Phillips Field because I messed

1668
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: with Philip Fair. He was the first one to really

1669
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: put us on.

1670
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 3: Like he was a real good dude.

1671
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 4: So Philly Field was from Atlanta.

1672
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 3: His mother here that he ended up going to test.

1673
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he was in Texas. Mama, stay here,

1674
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 4: stay in color Park.

1675
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1676
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 4: Let me ask it's Philly Field white or black? A Mixican?

1677
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 4: It was Spanish probably and some Filipino in there. Probably.

1678
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 4: Philly Field was my boy man. Philly felt a good catch.

1679
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: They don't have nobody that could replace Scottie Spencer. I

1680
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,959
Speaker 1: just think La never gave Scotty Spencer his roses. He

1681
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: he really broke a lot of acts in the nineties. Yeah,

1682
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 1: like like like he like he walked us through all

1683
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: the projects and I tell people the time, like the

1684
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: first time he took us to watch the first time

1685
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: he took us and our members walking in the courtyard

1686
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: and everybody had their doze open their apartments and they

1687
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 1: had guns and they and they waist pad and everybody

1688
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: was tripping and we were kind of like and you know,

1689
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, Grake came down there and they said, you know,

1690
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,600
Speaker 1: y'all are the only ones outside the pop that we

1691
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,839
Speaker 1: play over here. Everything it is gonna get knocked down.

1692
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 3: And watch this good money.

1693
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 4: I remember there were two promo tours that people went

1694
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 4: on when they came on the West Coast because I

1695
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 4: had a record store. I remember when Cash Money first

1696
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,520
Speaker 4: came out, Big A had me come up to the

1697
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 4: Big Game Underworld Records because Cash Money. I go up

1698
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 4: in there and that's when they really not popping like that.

1699
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 4: They could the High record.

1700
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: This is Big Timers, Yeah yeah, no.

1701
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 4: But higher record that just start floating around Juvenile record.

1702
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 7: But I think they was torn off Big Ball because

1703
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 7: the Big Timers record came out before Yeah record.

1704
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you they

1705
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: were coming out of that BG.

1706
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 4: It was the Big Timers first and the Juvenile that

1707
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: they had the samplers, and I was tripping off of

1708
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 4: that High record because I got like a box of

1709
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 4: them from cassettes. Remember the Consetts. They used to have

1710
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 4: a thirty second snippet of the single on there, and

1711
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 4: I was like, this is a crazy ass sound on

1712
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 4: the record. I didn't understand the groove. I was like

1713
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 4: time huh, you know, and it was life And I said,

1714
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 4: you see it's dope though, but I remember that.

1715
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 3: Did you really think it was?

1716
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: I did. I thought it was very unique. I appreciate it.

1717
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 4: I thought it was dope for really. I thought it

1718
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 4: was dope for real. Man, I ain't gonna lie.

1719
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 3: I got a live it happened, It had the it

1720
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 3: did that flow had it was. It was different and

1721
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: you know it was different because Jay jumped on it.

1722
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 4: That's how.

1723
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 3: That's how you know.

1724
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 4: It was just hell enough. And I think that was

1725
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 4: a genius marketing scheme back then because they would put

1726
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: the thirty seconds on the tape right. It had me

1727
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 4: intrigued to where I was looking for that record. I said,

1728
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 4: what is this ship coming out? Because I'm not gonna lie.

1729
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 4: Baby in them was cool, but I wouldn't. I didn't

1730
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 4: think they could wrap.

1731
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 3: But Baby was never he never, he never really wanted

1732
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 3: to be wrapped. There.

1733
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 4: They're they're they're down south. It's not goodie mob. Yeah

1734
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:14,520
Speaker 4: they counts.

1735
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 3: Not what he's saying. If the first thing you heard

1736
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: from cash Money is maney, just because I just thought

1737
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 3: it was just your gone hand over the top. You

1738
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: heard kind of the producer and there.

1739
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: But I but I thought at that time when I

1740
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: was seeing that, I thought that they was following Fordy

1741
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: and and be legit.

1742
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 3: When I was looking at them do that, I was like,

1743
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,520
Speaker 3: you you're doing Fordy.

1744
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Because it was just so

1745
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: over the you know, just imagine the first round. Here

1746
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 4: I got tiger skin, leopard seats across my seat, you

1747
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1748
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 5: They got money to spend when he got limits limousine

1749
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 5: out TT cruiser and you.

1750
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 3: Got too much bundy to spin. You know what I

1751
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: liked about them, see, because you're right, they was kind

1752
01:24:59,479 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 3: of shiny.

1753
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 7: But they used to treat the cards like they was

1754
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 7: hood cards, like they didn't have no First off, they

1755
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 7: didn't dress European.

1756
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 3: They didn't have no European fashion.

1757
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 4: Shirt, big ass steel T shirt had.

1758
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 3: And then they whipping a Ferrari like it's a regal.

1759
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 3: Like these niggas gratisation why they mistreat me.

1760
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 4: But I didn't feel about them. Once I started seeing

1761
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 4: the visuals, I started appreciating them more and I started

1762
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 4: really paying attention to the beasts. Because I always thought

1763
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 4: Manny Fresh was a monster. I wouldn't I wouldn't I

1764
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 4: wouldn't in love with the reps. But I'm a big

1765
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 4: sound I'm a I'm a big sonist guy, and I

1766
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 4: was like, these beats is hard the motherfucker because they

1767
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: were so different.

1768
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 3: Dog, I was like, damn yea, they was different. Yeah,

1769
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 3: all he was a great he's a good boom.

1770
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 4: To tell you all right now, I'm gonna tell you

1771
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 4: all the cat I heard from New Orleans and he

1772
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 4: DJ quicks cuz, you know, shout out the recipes to Jackie.

1773
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: I don't know for if anybody knew Jackie she passed away. Yeah, yeah,

1774
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: you know Jackie man, he heard that made me sad.

1775
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 4: She was cool because her her dude Darrel at the time,

1776
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: he was the one that got me the little situation

1777
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 4: up that that you know, I ain't.

1778
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 3: Cut him off something.

1779
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 4: Did you see checks with me on the side, And

1780
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: that's gonna do with the record deal. But you know, well,

1781
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: y'all cool, She was cool.

1782
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 3: People.

1783
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 4: We had a cousin from New Orleans that was probab

1784
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 4: to get on. He was a producer. He had them

1785
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: different kind of beats like they had that was kind

1786
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 4: of like like that bounced to him. And he had

1787
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 4: this one where the bombs wrapping like that.

1788
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:00,600
Speaker 1: It was hard to me.

1789
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 4: I had a song called and the Heat of the

1790
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 4: Night on that dog I can't find that tap nowhere.

1791
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 4: Quick's family got a lot of talent. Dog mm hmm.

1792
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 4: Well Quick is definitely a different monster. All for the

1793
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 4: Money was a big record with't no hook.

1794
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 5: Because all what All for the Money? I gotta get

1795
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 5: my mind, so I'm gonna take yours. That was the

1796
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 5: first hook I started writing.

1797
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take your But that record just feel good.

1798
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 4: That record felt like cool as ill you know the music.

1799
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 7: We keep talking somewhere along the line, I can't get

1800
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 7: this through to anybody hip hop. We don't care about you.

1801
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 7: You don't care about the MC. See I get it

1802
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 7: that because it's the MC moment to matter at one

1803
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 7: thing about one of the music was always top tier.

1804
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 4: Hold on one thing, we tripping man. When we talk

1805
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,760
Speaker 4: about all music, we have to talk about the man

1806
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 4: that was responsible for just some of the greatest music.

1807
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 4: Fucked us off because some of the greatest music coming

1808
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 4: out ever, the Dungeon fam Weak Away. When I first

1809
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 4: heard the music, every great movement we talk about that

1810
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 4: has been driven by a producer comas most wanted DJ slip.

1811
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, moretown cash money, many fresh

1812
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: the Dungeon famly Rico.

1813
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: Give us some words.

1814
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: I've been seeing him since we was in middle school.

1815
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: Man the man, the man been everybody's father since middle school.

1816
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: Like man driving his own car in middle school, you

1817
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 1: know what I man Like, He's always been a leader,

1818
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: and it was always just him, his mother and his

1819
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: two sisters. And when Ray from Organized Noise, when him

1820
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 1: and Rik met, that completed Organized Noise because Sleepy was.

1821
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 4: Already with Rico and.

1822
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Rico man like, but he was getting his like even

1823
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 1: in the nineties before people knew us, Rico always was

1824
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 1: getting his own clothes made, like, he had his own cars, like,

1825
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: he was getting his cars done special. Like he was

1826
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: doing everything that only kids that was more advanced was doing,

1827
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like when we

1828
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: moved from the projects to the house in Lakewood, he

1829
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: didn't lead a project till we found our cast. When

1830
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: he found our cast, he moved us into a house.

1831
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: And when every night dog at this man house, you

1832
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: would have cars all the way down the street every night,

1833
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: and his mom and his sister was in the house

1834
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 1: while we was creating all these records. It's you know,

1835
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: so we we've never seen nobody as selfless as them.

1836
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 4: That's dope. So let me pickure this because you know what,

1837
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 4: I always thought Rikaway was older than y'all, and it

1838
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 4: makes sense because it just seemed like he carried himself

1839
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 4: like that way. So he was a little kid pretty

1840
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 4: much and took y'all in and said we go create

1841
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 4: this movement. Yeah, all of us are the same age.

1842
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 4: That's crazy, man.

1843
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: The only one that the leaders that the elder is

1844
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: like Ray Ray Murray him is sleepy. They're the oldest,

1845
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:33,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, out of organized me Reek. Yeah,

1846
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: the rest of us probably Kujo Timo. All of us

1847
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: the same age. The babies are ce Low three thousand

1848
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: and big boy, those are the babies, you know, I

1849
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 1: get on the Future was the baby baby under them,

1850
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1851
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 3: Future wasn't even rapping your meat head then.

1852
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: So you know, like he actually coached us. Bro and

1853
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 1: I had the conversations yesterday. I said, brother, you understand

1854
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, they did exactly

1855
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 1: what they said they were gonna do for us because

1856
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 1: we was peers even though once they success came, he

1857
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: never turned around and said we're under y'all or y'all

1858
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 1: under us.

1859
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: He lost.

1860
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 1: They deal at the face because he wouldn't put our

1861
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: cares in Goodie.

1862
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 3: Marb and slave papers.

1863
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 1: So what he said, he said, check this out, we family,

1864
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: before we put you in slave places, slave papers.

1865
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 3: I'll let y'all go.

1866
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: He let us go, He let our cares go, and

1867
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: he let Goodie Marb go. He never owned our publisher,

1868
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: He never owned our name for us to come to

1869
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 1: the end of this for our kids. Our kids eat

1870
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: off our music. He never did what them people wanted

1871
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: him to do. He never That's the reason why they

1872
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: didn't like Rico. Carico would not be into what all

1873
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: everybody did to their groups. They didn't do Shure, they

1874
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't do Puffy. They wouldn't do none of that. Before

1875
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I do that to my to my family, I'll let

1876
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: you go. And that's why they hated Reek because they said, Bro,

1877
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: you could have been like doctor Dre. You could have

1878
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 1: been like Puff. You could have owned the outcare right now,

1879
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: own three thousand, owned Sea Lord. But if he had

1880
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 1: owned us, it wouldn't have been on nass barklay it

1881
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been none of that. It wouldn't have been

1882
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: no gift with Nelly, you know what I mean. So

1883
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: even though he let us go, he also gave us

1884
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: the freedom to always be able to come back home.

1885
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 4: We never got into it over this business. And that's

1886
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 4: why he can die.

1887
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: And have a statue.

1888
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: Man. Man, man he did, he did. He did, Man,

1889
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:02,480
Speaker 4: he did, he did. He unthinkable, He did the unthinkable.

1890
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 4: Brother he did.

1891
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: He want the music, he never he never did it,

1892
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he never did what they wanted

1893
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: to wanted him to do, and that's why they were

1894
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: They would hated so much because New York wanted them

1895
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: to crucify. You know that, Jimmy Ivins wanted them to.

1896
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 5: That's the intent they have. You give me fuck your

1897
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 5: brother over so you could be successful. And then they

1898
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 5: don't understand that that riff last so fucking long you

1899
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 5: can never get it.

1900
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 3: Still got my puff.

1901
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 4: He walked away, He walked the way he walked, he walked,

1902
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 4: and it.

1903
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: Makes it to where you don't even enjoy. That's when

1904
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 3: he stopped. Because I heard you talk about it, and

1905
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 3: I remember you're thinking about finish.

1906
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying that that's what he That's what

1907
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: made him walk away, Like you know, you walked away

1908
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: from Jimmy Ivian twenty million dollars on the table.

1909
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 4: He walked away.

1910
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: Before as slave.

1911
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 4: My partner is man I walk away.

1912
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: So that's what people don't understand about them, is that

1913
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 1: organized noise did what we said when we were eating

1914
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: chicking out the box to when we got him start

1915
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,520
Speaker 1: going to five star restaurants.

1916
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 4: Now think about it. His cousin DJ, he was a producer.

1917
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: That's who did Black Ice, That's who did a lot

1918
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 1: of the outcasts U storytellers with Slick Ricked. That was DJ.

1919
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: That on ain't cousin, come on there, get you something,

1920
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: do it? You do it, you get your money. You

1921
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean? He never did. He never took

1922
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: He never took man. And that's what make Rico who

1923
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: he is. And that's the reason why I feel like

1924
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 1: even now, it's like we have to learn how to

1925
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: deal with each other the same way.

1926
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 4: We do it when we broke.

1927
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 3: When we get rich man, that's our problem.

1928
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: We get rog and then we start cutting all the

1929
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: folk act like we act like.

1930
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 4: Them, and we can't do that.

1931
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Bro I know this man.

1932
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 4: Every executive puts that bug in your ear, and ironically

1933
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 4: that's how I lost my job of mind the music.

1934
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't put too much under

1935
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 4: one of those things. After the ice cream things, I record.

1936
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 4: He was up for a new deal and they wanted

1937
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 4: to do something like a fifty year deal man a code,

1938
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 4: But I said, that's a legal.

1939
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 3: You can't do that.

1940
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing the legal in the music business. I say,

1941
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 4: I said, how can you do that this man and

1942
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 4: never get his music back? Like he'd never get his

1943
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 4: stuff back care.

1944
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 7: We talked about that, and that's what I was saying

1945
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 7: to you. I remember telling me about that, and I

1946
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 7: wouldn't listen. I was like, damn, that shit is crashy.

1947
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 4: Well, he let me run down the list Man Unknown

1948
01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 4: got as published. What's the boy that was down here?

1949
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 4: That had it was up under hip Boy, not hip Boy.

1950
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 4: The hip Boy was under the Kanye not before Kanye, Polo,

1951
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 4: the Don Paulo, the Don. This state has the percentage

1952
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 4: of Hip Boy's publishing. Hip Boy said that on the show.

1953
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 4: He said, and I said, you mean the records that

1954
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 4: you made back then? He said no, now because and

1955
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 4: he said that Polo had told him. He said, Man,

1956
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 4: I was young at the time, and that's what they

1957
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: wanted me to do. They actually made the paperwork, and

1958
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 4: he said, and he said that if I can go

1959
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 4: back in there and change it, I can't even go

1960
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: do nothing about it because they all get nothing one.

1961
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 4: It ain't him, it ain't hip boy. But see what

1962
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,640
Speaker 4: happened is they have them do that deals and they

1963
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 4: give them the fifteen twenty million dollars or whatever. Man,

1964
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 4: they give it to them. They got the money, they gone.

1965
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 4: They're not really getting that much of that publishing. But

1966
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 4: when it's all said and down in history, it looks

1967
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 4: like the brother was robbing the brother. Oh yeah, he

1968
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 4: took all my shit. And it might have been the

1969
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 4: motherfucker up in the office to put the paperwork together.

1970
01:36:56,200 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: And I think that's why we as black people, dog

1971
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 4: we seldom get opportunities. So when we get one, it's

1972
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 4: almost like even if we see something that's kind of found,

1973
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 4: we say, well, man, that's better than the alternative. What

1974
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 4: are my options out here? You feel what I mean?

1975
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go ahead and sign this and kind

1976
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 4: of thug through it. An good question cut to the.

1977
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 6: Chase, Who who created Hollywood, who created the music industry,

1978
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 6: and who created the US dollar? Who controls the Federal Reserve?

1979
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 6: So that's really what the ship comes down to. Money

1980
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 6: and media.

1981
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 4: Who owns and.

1982
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 3: Controls US dollar and US media. You know what I'm saying,

1983
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna.

1984
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 4: Get you.

1985
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying.

1986
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 1: And they said that right now, right now, the music business,

1987
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 1: they are taking all the money overseas.

1988
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: They're putting all the money in Africa, They're putting all

1989
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 3: the money in Japan.

1990
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: They're taking all our beats, all our styles, and all

1991
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: our ways to the other country.

1992
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 4: And they said, come on, they're coming out of for

1993
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 4: so right now. Yeah, they're not investing in the music. Yeah,

1994
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 4: only in the live shown.

1995
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 3: Johonna wants to take all your publishing.

1996
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: That's why they don't care about the three sixty is

1997
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: going on right now. They only care about the live show.

1998
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: The live show makes the most money right now. So really,

1999
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: if you get back to we're getting back to the

2000
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 1: live slavery because it's about your work now, it's not

2001
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: even about the music.

2002
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 3: Is it true that Lee or Horn originated three sixty

2003
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 3: deal or something that was created that was created at

2004
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 3: the time, right before ce Low.

2005
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 1: After the first Nose Bark album, And I remember we

2006
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: went and met Loope down on Fairfax and he came

2007
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 1: in and talked to the law. He said, have you

2008
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: heard about this new deal that Atlantic wants all the

2009
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: artists to sign three sixty deals? And that was the

2010
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: first time I ever heard of a three sixty deal,

2011
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:07,600
Speaker 1: And he let us know. They was like, if you

2012
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: don't sign these deals, your career is over.

2013
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 3: And where has been?

2014
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: Where has Loupe been since those deals were started? He

2015
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: was a big artist during that time, but that was

2016
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: what they was cutting. So you know when they did

2017
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: go to Young Thug and those new artists, that's the

2018
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: reason why I went. They went to those new artists.

2019
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: The three sixty was created to kill the relationship between

2020
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,080
Speaker 1: the older artists and the new artists. How they was

2021
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it. You're gonna sign this paperwork, but I'm

2022
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: gonna give you money that your og can't say he got.

2023
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: So if Young Thug's sitting in the club and I

2024
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: tell him, yo, bro, you shouldn't sign that third three

2025
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: sixty deal. But then Leo said, but shit, I got

2026
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: six million dollars for you to sign that deal. The

2027
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: young kid gonna say, shit, give.

2028
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 3: Me that sick.

2029
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. It's like that.

2030
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 5: You can't convinced about the fucking and wait on the

2031
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 5: back end for all your ship where the nigga got

2032
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 5: six million in your face and you are the man.

2033
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,640
Speaker 6: Come on, well who printing the six men who got

2034
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 6: the unlimited resources? I can go grab, I can go

2035
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 6: throw big big ms at these young niggas.

2036
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 3: It's only one. It's only one that they put in place,

2037
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 3: the one that got the change, right.

2038
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: It's only one brother that can walk around here and

2039
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 1: take people artists, pay them more money than the people

2040
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: they with and you can still put our records.

2041
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 3: It's only one black man that can do that. So

2042
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 3: instead of instead of saying you know, no no Ditty Clive,

2043
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,799
Speaker 3: no Lucien or no degree.

2044
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Well, I think, like I said, man,

2045
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 7: when we see white people being evil, you know we

2046
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 7: can see it when black people it bothers me.

2047
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, one thing.

2048
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 3: That's your name. One thing.

2049
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 4: Better fucking want to treat me.

2050
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 3: You didn't bring us slaves like they come from the

2051
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,759
Speaker 3: same ship I killed. You wanna because.

2052
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 4: You know what the event like, you know, with streaming

2053
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 4: the way it is them physical CDs man was something

2054
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 4: else back in the day, and they.

2055
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: Were the best because you got the actually you actually

2056
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: fell in love with the artists, like like like you

2057
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,639
Speaker 1: actually fell in love with eight you you you fell

2058
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: in love with him because of y'all style and Kelly

2059
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 1: like that wasn't our style, you know what I mean.

2060
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: Our style was wearing polo izard and ship like that.

2061
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Like we started getting into that once y'all came.

2062
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Out because you was.

2063
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like y'all showed us like you can

2064
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 1: still get money and still you know, dressed like your

2065
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like.

2066
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 4: Right here, this AI shit, I ain't even gonn get

2067
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 4: into the whole drake and play it out and I'm

2068
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 4: tired of that shit now. But this shit with the AI,

2069
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 4: they can take get Goodie's voice, they can take Cam's voice,

2070
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 4: they can take your voice. Ah, that was created to

2071
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 4: Rob Somemore. That was it.

2072
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: It's just created a Rob And you know they.

2073
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 4: Giving deals off of that right now. And I heard

2074
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 4: what they're doing. It's depending on who you are. They

2075
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 4: come to trying to shoot you some ms and say hey,

2076
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,680
Speaker 4: this is for when your career is done, when you're

2077
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 4: no longer rapping. Just imagine mc A got a record

2078
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 4: coming out fifty years from now and it ain't nobody

2079
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: in your blood line benefited all from it.

2080
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: That was the last thing Tina Turner did was she

2081
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: did a deal to on her She saw her lightness,

2082
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 1: her face and her voice for fifty men before she died.

2083
01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 4: That was the way she left her family some money.

2084
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 3: M hm h.

2085
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the new way. That's the only way.

2086
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: That's the way that we can leave our kids something.

2087
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,040
Speaker 1: It's just sell our likeness and our voice.

2088
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,759
Speaker 3: They come, he got this seven million, leave my things,

2089
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 3: leave with me. Like man.

2090
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 1: They changing the deals up where it's making it hard.

2091
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Like you're saying, it's making you know what this is

2092
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: the thing you think about that we just think about

2093
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: we just we got.

2094
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 4: Two millions, give it up right now.

2095
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 3: The death bed about ninety.

2096
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 4: The glasses said, but that that's what it say you

2097
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 4: The main thing about that you live a good life.

2098
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 3: They come to you on the side they still need.

2099
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: But the but the but the crazy part about this

2100
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: era that we're in. Whatever they offer you, they're making

2101
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 1: three to four times.

2102
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 3: That that's what I be about. When they be selling

2103
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 3: the masks, I'm like, what is y'all I keep I'll

2104
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 3: be seeing these numbers, and I know most of these numbers. Line.

2105
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 3: I know Nigga's line.

2106
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 4: You know that's what hip hop is.

2107
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 3: You got to exaggeration. What if it's fifty is five? Right?

2108
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 5: But I'm saying, going with this ship, nigg I'm finna

2109
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 5: put your shirt on. I'm finna put your shirt on

2110
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 5: a sausage commercial or some ship.

2111
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 4: Check with what First he called me and said he

2112
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 4: was in the rest of buying eights because you know

2113
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 4: about people getting their catalog now it's about that time.

2114
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 4: It's past the twenty years whatever, the people getting their

2115
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 4: catalogs back. He said, well, I figure that it's a

2116
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 4: win win because we gonna take all for the money,

2117
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 4: all your hit records. They was gonna skip through it.

2118
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 4: They were gonna give him some nice money. They said,

2119
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 4: maybe he wants to go buy a car and put

2120
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 4: some rims on it. And you were dead serious. You

2121
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 4: call my man a coon. You tell me that's all

2122
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 4: you cared about is getting to new car. Like he

2123
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 4: he's sad of something like ship like I don't want

2124
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 4: to buy your news and that that's why you said

2125
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 4: dump and that's the why. That's why the game and

2126
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 4: you look up the mother flush that's.

2127
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 5: Why the game is why you know that the commercial

2128
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 5: And I'm like, they use my ship for so far, bigga.

2129
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:21,719
Speaker 3: All for the money.

2130
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 4: It was all for exciting. It's all for the money.

2131
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 4: Gonna look that up. Okay, so buddy naked, all for

2132
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 4: the buddy. Check this out though, dog. I told him,

2133
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 4: I said, you don't see nothing wrong, no disrespectful what

2134
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 4: you just said. I said, this man is still a

2135
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 4: six figure a year man. That's why he's not no

2136
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 4: bomb like this.

2137
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: It's not all no may you said either chomping it up.

2138
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 3: That's we do, bro.

2139
01:45:55,439 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 4: But hi, niggas, when you think about it, broke, that's

2140
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 4: what they think about us. They think about, oh, he's

2141
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 4: squamming all his resources by now let's go here.

2142
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 3: But check it out.

2143
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: Soon as soon as we start telling the young kids

2144
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: that going by land, then they stopped the decl that.

2145
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 4: They stopped the deals.

2146
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 1: See when you as soon as you smarten up the

2147
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 1: dude with the money, they want you to do that

2148
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: with the money. But as soon as you say I'm

2149
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: gonna go and buy twenty acres, then you can't get

2150
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 1: that deal no more.

2151
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 3: That's crazy. You mean you me telling me you're gonna

2152
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 3: buy some property.

2153
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they got a clause.

2154
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 5: They got the clause to say what you're gonna do

2155
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 5: with this money before I give it to you. First,

2156
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give me a copy of Cubans. I'm gonna

2157
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 5: go get bill till I'm finna go invest in some land,

2158
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 5: invest send my son to college and stuff. Like they

2159
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 5: be like stiff and.

2160
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Just say, just seeing the money that they just a

2161
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 1: loted for Nipsey Hustle. Just see like five million dollars

2162
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,600
Speaker 1: like that. Let you know how much money in with

2163
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: with his stuff like to have five men and I

2164
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 1: mean everybody else.

2165
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 3: And got a good joke exactly about fifty.

2166
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 1: Like so when I saw that, I was like, wow,

2167
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: Like Atlantic, that's the strength, that's the skinnamand away and

2168
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: they like Nigga w man.

2169
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 4: You know what, We've been here for a while. Before

2170
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 4: we go, I want to go back to something we

2171
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 4: talked about, these people giving these people these songs. Pretty

2172
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 4: much a dead rapper is more profitable. King Vaughn saw

2173
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:43,760
Speaker 4: a gang of records. That's the first.

2174
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that Jimmy Iveen told of one night.

2175
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: He said, he sat down, he said, he asked us. Yeah,

2176
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: he was talking to Sea Loo. He said, what's bigger

2177
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 1: than the superstuff? See?

2178
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 3: Lord, I don't know, he said, A dead one. Mm hmm.

2179
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 5: Ocauseous because yeah, the way they're gonna set that up

2180
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 5: and market it, you're gonna sell quadrupal times of what

2181
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 5: you would if the motherfucker was still walking around.

2182
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 7: You think about why that is because people who would

2183
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 7: have never talked about you is now talking about. Yeah,

2184
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 7: like everybody loves and dead niggas hated Muhammad Ali.

2185
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 3: We like people hated Mama.

2186
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,559
Speaker 4: Definitely look at him right now, bigger than ever.

2187
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: Like you would think, like sometimes you date the way

2188
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 3: they celebrate morning.

2189
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 4: The king, you would you would not think that the enemy, Yeah.

2190
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 3: Every day his birthday. You know how they you don't

2191
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 3: go to work? Why kill the mother?

2192
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: Definitely? Well, you know that's a good. That's that's I'd

2193
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 1: rather celebrate you. When you can't say nothing.

2194
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,679
Speaker 3: You can't put on demands all my life.

2195
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 6: You can't, you can't in real time, in present time,

2196
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 6: say yeah, I ain't gonna hold you accountable for that.

2197
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 3: Think about that day.

2198
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 5: Knock a motherfucker off. And theydn't want to give a

2199
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:09,160
Speaker 5: nigga holidays street the Street School. We're gonna play all

2200
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 5: debt to you. Don't trip's don't have to kill you.

2201
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 5: But in the long run, it's gonna be good.

2202
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be all right. Wife, don't be good. You're

2203
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 3: gonna be kids go be, but you you got to

2204
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 3: that's your life. Life. Yeah, programs, that's fucked up.

2205
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,080
Speaker 7: Ship man a white man to well, like the great

2206
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 7: Nancy Hustle said, I was looking at this white man

2207
01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 7: like you motherfucker.

2208
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah he great.

2209
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:40,639
Speaker 5: Now they exploit you. One thing is good is exploit

2210
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 5: you know we've always been exploited. Yeah, that ship, that

2211
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 5: ship though it ain't gonna stop. It started way back

2212
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 5: then and it ain't gonna stop with the next dead

2213
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 5: rappers and that.

2214
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,599
Speaker 4: This is you just can't let them celebrate you. Well,

2215
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 4: you know, live insurance.

2216
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,480
Speaker 3: Will be telling this nigga.

2217
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 5: Stop going around saying I'm a legend and all that

2218
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 5: ship for these motherfuckers do something to it.

2219
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: Like well, you know they only just they only start

2220
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: giving insurance once they start giving the millions.

2221
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:11,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

2222
01:50:12,360 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 4: Sure, that's normal.

2223
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, but once it was out in the public,

2224
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,679
Speaker 1: I could just see a real fast drawback from hip hop.

2225
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,440
Speaker 1: Soon as soon as French said it on the interviews,

2226
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 1: kind of like okay, we heard somebody say, but now

2227
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 1: that New Yorker said, now we need to follow back,

2228
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: they stopped. They stopped really kind of signing the youngsters for.

2229
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 3: Sure, putting in shorts.

2230
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 7: If I signed what these nigga the nineteen I got

2231
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 7: insurance on your life because you don't know when it stopped.

2232
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,439
Speaker 3: Up. Remember so many things righting up man, for sure,

2233
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 3: getting this you yeah, last calling made me slip, definitely.

2234
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 3: I just realized that after se Loo.

2235
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: I just realized that, like all the big executives started

2236
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,240
Speaker 1: leaving the record companies, and he was like, what's going on.

2237
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: So that's when he started three hundred. It was like

2238
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: what's going on? They was like, Yo, they just going

2239
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: outside of the record coming. Now all they want is

2240
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: publishing there. So now they already knew that they the

2241
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 1: money source for the game, So now let's just go

2242
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:19,040
Speaker 1: outside the outside of the actual structure of it. Create

2243
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: these three hundred companies and all the whole main thing

2244
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: is just to go after young publisher. That's that's that's like,

2245
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: that's that's premeditated robbery.

2246
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 5: Because he's not smart enough to think as a young

2247
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 5: nigga that nigga just get me paid, you get what

2248
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:37,839
Speaker 5: you got a million time.

2249
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 3: Everything.

2250
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 7: Well, I think that's why it was more pure when

2251
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 7: I grew up listening to y'all ship right, because y'all

2252
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 7: didn't think y'all can get rich. No, because you didn't

2253
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 7: really think of it like that, my Rocane, you knew

2254
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 7: you could get ready.

2255
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 4: You we.

2256
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Was like, I just want to be on I just

2257
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 1: want to be on put. I'm gonna tell you all

2258
01:52:04,479 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: that you want to be the first. The first rap group,

2259
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: the first that I thought was facing right on.

2260
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 4: The first rap group that I thought really getting big

2261
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 4: money was really.

2262
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:17,879
Speaker 1: Cyprus Hell because the ship was so big, that Smoking

2263
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 1: Gruse ship was so big then like we were we

2264
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: were looking at that ship like yo, like because the outcasts,

2265
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 1: the outcasts who went on that Smoking Gruse to it like.

2266
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 3: They didn't have no money. We did the first album,

2267
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 3: they only did it on per Diem, so we were

2268
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 3: kind of broke.

2269
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 1: But that second Alm Drop and and Be realedom took

2270
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: them on the smoking gruse to it with Ericaba, and

2271
01:52:38,640 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 1: that's when.

2272
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 4: They came back up.

2273
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they came back, they came home. I was kind

2274
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 3: of like that was the.

2275
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 4: First time I was like, damn, yeah, I don't think

2276
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,759
Speaker 4: nobody to look at you crazy saying that all the time, says.

2277
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:54,600
Speaker 3: Not like.

2278
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 4: This.

2279
01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 5: The hip hop they ca them niggas was successful's right,

2280
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 5: that's right to be to be uh Mexican orientated. Serv Yes,

2281
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 5: they were big. They they were big. They were bigger

2282
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 5: than a lot of black artists.

2283
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:13,719
Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.

2284
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: So they take, Yeah, they took. That's when they came back.

2285
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:24,719
Speaker 1: They made a hundreds down to night like like hudging

2286
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: them Like wait a minute.

2287
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah they be real in them. Be real got

2288
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 5: his own bill, be real, got the couple of dispensaries.

2289
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 3: And ship's l a caf.

2290
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 4: Be real up right now, just as normal.

2291
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: What's up? Why are you down real quick?

2292
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah.

2293
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's my people's man all day. But yes, AAPIs

2294
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 5: Hill was like like one of them groups like damn,

2295
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 5: I'm looking at looking at I'm looking at them, like

2296
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 5: what the they rapping about killing a man?

2297
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 3: And smoking. What what am I what on? Right? Like

2298
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 3: niggas sold two million records, like.

2299
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 4: Because they one thing that helped them is they created

2300
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 4: anthems dog.

2301
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:24,879
Speaker 3: They did no, Well, it's it's a combination. It's a combination,

2302
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 3: I agree.

2303
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 4: But they had they had.

2304
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Nothing, taking nothing from mugs or be A.

2305
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying that that's truth to what you said. But

2306
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 6: let me let me just let me say that that

2307
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 6: that that's true, that's true.

2308
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 3: Not it's not the complete truth because they songs was

2309
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: the ships. It's not against us. But I'm just saying,

2310
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 3: but ten million records better than jay Z, it's not

2311
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 3: and million records they're not.

2312
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 4: They're not.

2313
01:54:58,760 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 6: I think they got bigger songs. But once there, what's

2314
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 6: the definition of a bigger song? It's about what the

2315
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 6: machine is gonna get behind exactly. So it's like like

2316
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 6: Glass is saying, like it's not be really and muggsing

2317
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 6: and fault that that the machine got behind them the

2318
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 6: way they did.

2319
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 3: They make smash records.

2320
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 6: But they also was at the right place at the

2321
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 6: right time as far as the vices, as far as

2322
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 6: the wee thing that was always proponents and out front

2323
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 6: on that.

2324
01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 3: Subject, countercature that is the first.

2325
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 6: And even though be Real ain't you know, ain't Mexican,

2326
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 6: but he still represents Latino exactly. So he was tapped

2327
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 6: into that that large population of you know, his Spanish

2328
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 6: or Latinos whatever.

2329
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 3: They didn't look like the rest of y'all.

2330
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 4: They didn't cause send Off looked like.

2331
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 3: Y'all, but like mugs and and and Be didn't look

2332
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 3: like y'all. So think about it.

2333
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 7: This is not a disservice to anybody that's not a brother.

2334
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 7: I'm saying Eminem is a.

2335
01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 3: Rap as good as rocking out.

2336
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 7: There's a few rappers that rap as great as I'm

2337
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 7: talking about formulating the hooks for making for his for

2338
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 7: his reality.

2339
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:09,720
Speaker 6: I just said as far as making a good record

2340
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 6: I'm talking about, but good record for a white boy,

2341
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 6: for a white man, sure, based off what his I.

2342
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 3: Never I never bought it, No, no, but that's not

2343
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 3: what I'm I'm saying, just making something that you know,

2344
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 3: I've never bought an Eminem record either A hell of a.

2345
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, But again, you gotta be honest, especially on

2346
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 7: gastic chronicles.

2347
01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 3: Here's the reason he's so fifteen or twelve because he's

2348
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 3: twelve million.

2349
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:46,720
Speaker 4: Well specific is go always get people to probably don't

2350
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 4: even listen to Rep Norm.

2351
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 7: Because you can look at him and I mean, listen,

2352
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 7: let's be out to Complexion for the somebody that could

2353
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 7: be me.

2354
01:56:56,320 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: I didn't get into him until he did stand like

2355
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: the first you know what I mean, Like I didn't

2356
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 1: get it because I was like, Okay, that took that's

2357
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 1: hip hop. You sit down and you you did that.

2358
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: But the first single, like the first one him and

2359
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: d Driver kind of like that's weird.

2360
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the But honestly, that's the only record I played.

2361
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 5: I didn't play anything after that of MS.

2362
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 4: And not the son. Only song I played was my

2363
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 4: Name Is Said, and only played it because Dre did

2364
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 4: the beat.

2365
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 3: That's it. That was it, you know that.

2366
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 5: I looked at the rap as as it's comical he's

2367
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 5: but didn't listen to him because I think of this

2368
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 5: one fucking like nigga.

2369
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 4: That was it.

2370
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, the relatability to discuss talent right like you could

2371
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 7: hear this motherfucker rap. Definitely the song not about our topics,

2372
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 7: but about his personal.

2373
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 3: When I first saw him.

2374
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 7: This is how we was no lock were selling dope

2375
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 7: in the spot, you know, right telling doping spot, chopping rock.

2376
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 7: And it came on a bunx and it was this

2377
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 7: little white kid drinking his grandmother drink. The grandmother comes

2378
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 7: smacking up side of him and he starts choking.

2379
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 3: Some real white people that everything we thought of poor

2380
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 3: white people exactly get it. This is like I did it.

2381
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 3: I get that, I get the angle one I'm accepting.

2382
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 7: But what I was saying still is you gotta accept

2383
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 7: that it's going to work better if it looks like them.

2384
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 4: Because well, he wasn't the only white rabbit. You gotta remember,

2385
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 4: he had the perfect storm. He had doctor dre at

2386
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 4: the time, too, dog, all that stuff was, all that

2387
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 4: stuff mattered that because the snoop had doctor drink. FID

2388
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 4: had doctor doctor d would say without.

2389
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 7: Them songs even then wouldn't have been as big as

2390
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,320
Speaker 7: he was. It's not even close. That's obviously you still

2391
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:59,839
Speaker 7: about the complexion of certain people. This is about obviously

2392
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 7: that left. You gotta have good records. You niggas all

2393
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 7: know that. I gotta tell you more definitely when you

2394
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 7: pel her with good records, like a deal can sing,

2395
01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 7: she don't sing no better than probably I don't know.

2396
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 7: It's so Jill Scott's I keep telling people Jill Scott's

2397
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 7: sing as good as a dead If you didn't make

2398
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 7: Beyonce dance at the same time and sing, she was

2399
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 7: singing everybody under her table probably, but she got a

2400
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 7: dance and ship and do a thousand flips kind of money.

2401
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 7: But you gotta understand when pale people give me for

2402
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 7: using this time, but when pale people have talent, people

2403
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 7: be like, if a pale person can dance, you'd be like,

2404
01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 7: look at that motherfucker.

2405
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 3: You're proud of it. Pro you're fascinating.

2406
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 4: And another thing.

2407
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 1: And another thing that gave me that he was cool,

2408
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 1: like he picked fifty.

2409
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 3: Like that was like I said, you changed into the street.

2410
01:59:58,480 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 3: Like I was like, you pick.

2411
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 4: Like that's what made him kind of cool.

2412
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 11: On the other end, still an't like you got TV

2413
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 11: they love hip hop though, you feel me.

2414
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,440
Speaker 5: You have to love hip hop to be able to

2415
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 5: feel that, to be able to try to craft a

2416
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:28,560
Speaker 5: good song. You ain't gotta necessarily go for that, you know,

2417
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 5: number one top forty hit, but just you have to

2418
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 5: be a fan favorite of good hip hop to try.

2419
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 6: To generate I had an issue recently with with Dre

2420
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 6: Doctor J shouts out, Dre.

2421
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that he one of the godfathers.

2422
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:46,920
Speaker 6: But he said Eminem was the best to ever pick

2423
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:48,920
Speaker 6: up a mic, that he ever heard something like that.

2424
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 3: That's blasphemy.

2425
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel that last for that's that's you, that's

2426
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 4: me promoting my product. You get me.

2427
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm still but but so so you got too much

2428
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 3: influence and you from us. This is our thing here.

2429
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying for you to get on

2430
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 6: a major platform and use your platform to say that

2431
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 6: about these people you work who controlling this paycheck?

2432
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 12: Well where you there, you go say I'm on you,

2433
02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 12: I'm on you, I'm on you people, I'm on your

2434
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 12: control of that dollar, to control the billions that a

2435
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 12: motherfucking handed them.

2436
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 3: To be like this motherfucker this one, you know, to

2437
02:01:31,120 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 3: out what's the crazy.

2438
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 4: Before it ever heard like that? If you ever noticed

2439
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,640
Speaker 4: the theme with Jimmy, think about it. He had should

2440
02:01:41,920 --> 02:01:54,520
Speaker 4: check this out, this step off from plans. Jim He

2441
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 4: had should get first right head death room, removed sugar

2442
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:00,520
Speaker 4: out the way. You know Trey was a believe and

2443
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 4: just go him right, not remove it. But I get you,

2444
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 4: But everybody always wanted to back with Jimmy because he

2445
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 4: got the I got the body. Where's that steal? At

2446
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 4: this new deal? Where where you got his new company?

2447
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 3: At any with Larry any Gamma?

2448
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 4: Who the hell is Gamma? The dudes Apple, Yeah, it

2449
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 4: is through a Gamma.

2450
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:23,120
Speaker 3: I think.

2451
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:29,200
Speaker 7: Ship you start where he was, Like, I get what

2452
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 7: made it so hard for me? Because I was looking

2453
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:33,160
Speaker 7: like this Nick's crazy. To this day, I see them

2454
02:02:33,200 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 7: may be like, man, this nigga Glass is a fool.

2455
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 3: But that's why you podcasting that because you got personality.

2456
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 3: You might not know how to podcast.

2457
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 6: You might not know how to dance through the politics.

2458
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:44,920
Speaker 6: Same with like and me, Like you know what I'm

2459
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 6: saying that, I think this is where we shine at

2460
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 6: thanks to steal rather than like was his.

2461
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:57,040
Speaker 3: Idea, Steve lost your talking these niggas, you folks came on.

2462
02:02:57,240 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 5: I used to sit there like, there the fun is

2463
02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 5: these niggas talking about. I used to just sit up

2464
02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:06,840
Speaker 5: there and tell myself, Hey, like all we keep talking

2465
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:10,440
Speaker 5: about is death, row that it put about nothing else

2466
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 5: but death. Those conversations I couldn't even get in because

2467
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, they're on that subject. So so when we

2468
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 5: started doing like like we do now like, we're gonna

2469
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 5: talk to them. We're gonna talk to them, We're gonna

2470
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 5: talk about this subject. We're gonna talk about this, We're

2471
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:30,640
Speaker 5: gonna talk about now. Now, ship nigga, let's go. I

2472
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 5: talked to you for three I talked to you for

2473
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 5: thirty hours.

2474
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all, man that that one y'all dial

2475
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 1: with crypt I was laughing.

2476
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 3: Send me something I like.

2477
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:48,520
Speaker 4: I was like, shut the stuff, man, what's coming on?

2478
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 4: I was like, really, I'm like, man, what the fuck

2479
02:03:51,560 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 4: we got to talk to about?

2480
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:53,440
Speaker 3: Man?

2481
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:00,920
Speaker 4: But when he came, I could see why people like

2482
02:04:01,400 --> 02:04:01,720
Speaker 4: the home.

2483
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 5: One of my homies, the homie Rich called me, was like, man,

2484
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 5: what the fuck y'all got that dude on?

2485
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 3: Man? That dude corny Man. Somebody gonna dump on that dude. Man.

2486
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 3: Two days later that and they called me back. I

2487
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 3: think gonna fuddy And I said, this is what I

2488
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 3: was unstellable.

2489
02:04:21,560 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 7: So in about two years, right, hip hop is gonna

2490
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:26,120
Speaker 7: be dead the way we remember right, because it's already

2491
02:04:26,160 --> 02:04:27,800
Speaker 7: passed the space to where we heard like I had

2492
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 7: to hear it, gim first, that's what I heard authenticity.

2493
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 7: I had to hear a for I didn't see you,

2494
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 7: heard your Kim heard you, and then heard about you.

2495
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 7: Heard you was on the boulevard and Trey, I heard

2496
02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 7: about you. I heard about you, right, and we passed

2497
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 7: the words. We're a lot more serious with the message

2498
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 7: we passed to each other because of certain type of people,

2499
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 7: because they are becoming caricatures of culture.

2500
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 3: Caricatures right now, not of the culture. You know this.

2501
02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 7: He's not a kid that grew up where we grew up.

2502
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 7: And no disrespect to good dudes. I like him, but

2503
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:04,360
Speaker 7: he didn't grow up where we grew up to understand it.

2504
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:08,000
Speaker 7: So he already was somebody coming in based off an

2505
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 7: outside perception of what he thinks this is about, and

2506
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 7: he's broadcasting it to a bunch of other people, so

2507
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 7: they start thinking that we think that this is what

2508
02:05:17,440 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 7: it's about. So when you have the power, this is

2509
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 7: why I was on your ass about him and Sammy

2510
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 7: the boy, I'm like you are I know, big brothers.

2511
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, come on, when you do that, you start

2512
02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 3: to tell people we verifying the caricatures for the mascots

2513
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 3: of the culture.

2514
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 7: And no matter how much you don't feel like you

2515
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 7: are a gang member or you not a what you

2516
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 7: are an authority figure when it comes to gangster rap music.

2517
02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, I look at it too.

2518
02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 4: I hold people accountable. When I have those people on

2519
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:53,080
Speaker 4: the show, I asked them. I didn't pull no punches

2520
02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:58,040
Speaker 4: on Rip, I asked him. I said, a dude, right,

2521
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 4: is this whole act? Are you acting a clown? Is

2522
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 4: that for real?

2523
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 3: Would you interview Satan?

2524
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 1: No?

2525
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 4: I wouldn't.

2526
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 3: But listen to what I'm saying, bro hold him acountable

2527
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 3: the way you did.

2528
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:09,480
Speaker 4: See, we gotta talk about We got to talk about

2529
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:13,720
Speaker 4: the business too, right, my whole soul job, Me and

2530
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 4: eight may be talking to somebody like I wouldn't go.

2531
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,680
Speaker 4: We wouldn't go hang out with Quickmac personally. God bless

2532
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:23,080
Speaker 4: that dude. So but he's an interesting person. People want

2533
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 4: to people want to know what's going on, know but

2534
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 4: everything sometimes Man, it's that we gotta take ourselves out

2535
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 4: the equation. You don't say, because you can't take the

2536
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 4: streets like we're not out here selling do we're doing

2537
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 4: the show.

2538
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 3: See. The thing is still is an executive. Still is

2539
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:41,800
Speaker 3: an executive.

2540
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 4: He's he's he's not not that, but he's the No,

2541
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:51,120
Speaker 4: he knows we gotta do this type of ship. We

2542
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 4: gotta do it if you want to say, because.

2543
02:06:57,680 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 3: The words man would be the same like man, I

2544
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 3: will give you. I'm gonna tell you this.

2545
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 4: The number one we mistake we make is black people

2546
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 4: a black businessman. Is we want to drag the streets

2547
02:07:13,680 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 4: into everything. Yeah it was, but still all of this

2548
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 4: stuff has its Sami snitches are as much a part

2549
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 4: of the street as as on riders and dope bills

2550
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 4: and everything else. This was one of the biggest snitches

2551
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 4: of mess murders in history.

2552
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:28,840
Speaker 3: Why would we not talk to him? Because what do

2553
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 3: you mean you can't give a platform to people?

2554
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 4: He already got his own. His platform is bigger than

2555
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 4: any of his platform is damn there's big as Joe

2556
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 4: Rogan's who Samiti Bull Snapper SEMy Bull gotta be platform.

2557
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:42,560
Speaker 1: You.

2558
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 4: But people are interested in them, That's what I'm saying.

2559
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 4: People are.

2560
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,320
Speaker 3: My job is matter to not give a platform to

2561
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 3: people who you.

2562
02:07:49,160 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 4: Know, whether I talk to him or not, he's gonna

2563
02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 4: be doing what he do anyway.

2564
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 5: Something still feel like he's gonna talk to somebody. He'll

2565
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 5: talk Why why not us?

2566
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,440
Speaker 3: So why not us? Somebody? In order for you to

2567
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 3: be who you are.

2568
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:04,560
Speaker 4: But my thing is this, I'm not a robber, motherfuckers.

2569
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 4: I just know how to understand who am I robbing?

2570
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 3: That's not robbing. Is all based off premise.

2571
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 7: It's fair, right, we can say it's robbing, right, But

2572
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:14,440
Speaker 7: these dudes are signing the contract. That's where they can

2573
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 7: always stand behind, right. So they said they took the

2574
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:18,680
Speaker 7: chance and made the decision they slf see.

2575
02:08:18,720 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 4: The thing is though, and I don't even know see

2576
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 4: g come on, she's to always go.

2577
02:08:27,880 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 3: Watch them.

2578
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 4: It's like this, bro, you have to entertain the masses.

2579
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 4: If people are sending me emails telling me they want

2580
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:40,040
Speaker 4: to see specific people, I'm gonna go get them because

2581
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 4: if that if Joe blow, because I'm gonna tell you this, y'all,

2582
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 4: don't say nothing to mister white man. The two white

2583
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:47,760
Speaker 4: people around the corner that that interviewed, everybody, check this

2584
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 4: out right here, but check this out. They have successful platforms.

2585
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 4: If we really want to put this thing back in

2586
02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:56,480
Speaker 4: our hands, we can't have we can't let them be

2587
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 4: the victors and them read writing history and our grandkids

2588
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,400
Speaker 4: look back at and they say DJ Vlad was the

2589
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:04,840
Speaker 4: most knowledgeable motherfucker about hip hop in this period. I

2590
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,000
Speaker 4: have to be able to get this show. My job

2591
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,600
Speaker 4: is to be able to get gangster chronicles, no ceilings

2592
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:12,920
Speaker 4: up to hear to where we are the true authorities.

2593
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 4: When our pro when our platform is bigger than theirs,

2594
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 4: then that's when we can start being more selected. Like, no,

2595
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,040
Speaker 4: we don't have to. So it's a means to end.

2596
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 4: I made new people crawling their back and get up

2597
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 4: to where we need to be. Here's a question, and

2598
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:29,560
Speaker 4: that's not about crypt Mac. That was the responsible I

2599
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 4: really wanted to interview Cryp macats him being a young

2600
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 4: black man, and I was worried about him. I thought

2601
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 4: he maybe have some mental health problems going on because

2602
02:09:38,200 --> 02:09:39,360
Speaker 4: this is by gangs.

2603
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:46,840
Speaker 3: Because I'm a man at which place, at which place?

2604
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 3: See you one of them niggas of the telegone record

2605
02:09:54,320 --> 02:10:02,640
Speaker 3: and even talking around the city. He is truth.

2606
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:05,160
Speaker 4: I'm not that nigga that you forget. So you know

2607
02:10:05,280 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna tell you something. You know why I

2608
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 4: love my brother Cam. He's already decided in his life

2609
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 4: he was gonna make that ultimate sacrifice and hold a

2610
02:10:14,080 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 4: certain line like I'm not doing that ship and now

2611
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 4: applaud that I like that.

2612
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:20,440
Speaker 3: That's how you follow suit.

2613
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 4: I gotta make sure somebody making some income around.

2614
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 3: His mother show to.

2615
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 11: Show.

2616
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 3: So I gotta make sure somebody got some mother money.

2617
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 4: Keep and Chloyd.

2618
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 3: This is my only thought. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm

2619
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:39,920
Speaker 3: end it with this. I me in your pocket. I'm

2620
02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:48,280
Speaker 3: in your pocket, ship talking, let me, I'm in the ship.

2621
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 4: We got that was our show is lovely.

2622
02:10:56,320 --> 02:11:04,000
Speaker 3: That's lovely to be like crazy. Final thought, final thought.

2623
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:20,960
Speaker 7: Then we're supposed to be as big as white people

2624
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 7: in the mire when it comes to certain things, when

2625
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:24,800
Speaker 7: it comes to just.

2626
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 3: Popularity, because why the fun will we be? We're black? Now,

2627
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 3: there are those moments when we get a nigga that's

2628
02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:35,760
Speaker 3: pretty popular, if you could be doing final moments to

2629
02:11:35,800 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 3: the money.

2630
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 7: Okay, so there is gonna be some brothers that's popular,

2631
02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 7: but rest is sure for everyone that's popular, we probably

2632
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 7: gonna look at him and be like, what the fuck

2633
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:46,440
Speaker 7: is going on?

2634
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 3: Right? Like Michael Jackson?

2635
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 7: Right, Michael Jackson started getting popular, but then you start

2636
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 7: looking and you was like, what happened to your faith?

2637
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 3: What happened to your skin? Is the soul? And came out?

2638
02:11:58,720 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 3: Where is the soul in your.

2639
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 7: Music, right, because it's a pursuit to impress them, right,

2640
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 7: that's my point. Wouldn't that be the ultimate sacrifice? Or

2641
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:10,800
Speaker 7: forgive me because I know this word gonna irritate you,

2642
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:14,080
Speaker 7: but I don't mean it like that, the ultimate sellout because.

2643
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 4: If you start pursuing our thing, is we truly the coature?

2644
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

2645
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 7: Eight is really a tract new part from Confident. That's

2646
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 7: a platinum gangster rapper. He can Eminem wants to be him.

2647
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:32,280
Speaker 7: I know that sound crazy because Eminem SOALWD twenty million

2648
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 7: hours rest assured. He wants to be MC eight or

2649
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,760
Speaker 7: Redman or Gift. This is why he does this now

2650
02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:43,720
Speaker 7: obviously because it's more white people in America, right, they're

2651
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:46,760
Speaker 7: spending a bunch of money. He may have more success

2652
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 7: with selling records because they gonna look at me like, hey.

2653
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 3: I can be that guy. But our job is to

2654
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 3: hold the line truly with culture. Now, maybe it don't pay.

2655
02:12:57,560 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 7: Would Eminem get paid, Probably, it's probably not making with

2656
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 7: Eminem getting the show, I'm sure it's maybe a couple

2657
02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:05,360
Speaker 7: of million dollar different.

2658
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 5: For sure, but I'm sure Like if I get a

2659
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 5: photy out to cigarettes, I do draw a line somewhere?

2660
02:13:19,400 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 3: Where's the line?

2661
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:20,640
Speaker 4: The line?

2662
02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:24,520
Speaker 3: I would never listen to a conversation who want to do?

2663
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 3: Who wants you? There's been plenty of dudes. He's asked

2664
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 3: me and I told him no.

2665
02:13:29,880 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 4: Because he asking you, that means he told them. That's

2666
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 4: because I'm on the fensive bottle.

2667
02:13:33,880 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, are you not on about you? Like,

2668
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,960
Speaker 7: I am not sitting down talking to that person.

2669
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:41,360
Speaker 3: I am never sitting down with a klansman.

2670
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:42,320
Speaker 4: I am never.

2671
02:13:42,480 --> 02:13:46,280
Speaker 3: I would love but listen, oh listen, this is what

2672
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:46,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

2673
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 4: When I say klansman, I mean somebody like, let's say

2674
02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,240
Speaker 4: one of these ad agencies come to me and they say, hey,

2675
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 4: we Donald Trump wants you to push this agenda. We're

2676
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:01,840
Speaker 4: gonna give you five minutes that was doing. But that's

2677
02:14:02,120 --> 02:14:03,600
Speaker 4: why you got I mean, I don't want to give

2678
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:03,840
Speaker 4: it away.

2679
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:06,040
Speaker 6: We can edit this part up, but that's why you

2680
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:11,120
Speaker 6: got future shows like like, well that's what that's what

2681
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 6: That's what I would do.

2682
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:16,960
Speaker 3: So I'm definitely playing example dog for something exactly from

2683
02:14:17,000 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 3: which Donald I think I would love it.

2684
02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:22,920
Speaker 1: I think that to hear h Andre Tait on this

2685
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,640
Speaker 1: and I would learn to hear him on on the

2686
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:28,840
Speaker 1: just to hear because because he a gangster in his

2687
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,200
Speaker 1: own way here gangst in his own way.

2688
02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,000
Speaker 3: So something that was this is me and I agreed.

2689
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 3: I was like that that's true.

2690
02:14:34,080 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 7: Like he's like, if you having sex to not make

2691
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,840
Speaker 7: kids ship, I was like, I ain't got no kids,

2692
02:14:38,840 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 7: but that is true. It is pretty gay to not

2693
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:41,160
Speaker 7: be using your.

2694
02:14:41,120 --> 02:14:45,120
Speaker 3: Tea to make kids. That's not I don't know gay,

2695
02:14:46,480 --> 02:14:49,280
Speaker 3: said what is it? He pushed it, he pushed it,

2696
02:14:49,400 --> 02:14:52,880
Speaker 3: but he was He's right, like this, this is the purpose.

2697
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:55,040
Speaker 4: But what is full ship?

2698
02:14:55,160 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 13: Like that.

2699
02:14:57,680 --> 02:15:01,800
Speaker 1: I said, talking about me, make get attention. He knew

2700
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:04,360
Speaker 1: get attention. I think I think, I think I would.

2701
02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 1: Another person, Rock Kim can be great. I was a

2702
02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:08,840
Speaker 1: lot of talk to Rock Kim.

2703
02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:12,480
Speaker 4: I don't appreciate what my boy king said. He said,

2704
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 4: rock Kim fell off his last few that was crazy,

2705
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 4: he said, rock Kim fell off. And that's York Cats

2706
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:23,360
Speaker 4: whole they hip hop to such regard to August, almost

2707
02:15:23,480 --> 02:15:25,800
Speaker 4: like you can't win with the motherfuckers if.

2708
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 3: You're not from Queens, if you're from the art.

2709
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:31,080
Speaker 6: Though, like I said earlier, it's the machine and the

2710
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 6: machines don't like what rock Kim talking about. If Rock

2711
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:37,960
Speaker 6: Kim is getting too evolved and too advanced and too wise.

2712
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:40,040
Speaker 3: And having you know, and that's what happened, They're gonna

2713
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:41,280
Speaker 3: make it look like he fell.

2714
02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:44,040
Speaker 5: Off, Like he took you from uh, he took you

2715
02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:48,360
Speaker 5: from Eric be as president to you know, social social

2716
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 5: social issues.

2717
02:15:51,080 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 3: And that that makes people.

2718
02:15:54,520 --> 02:16:00,080
Speaker 5: I just knew talking holiness and spirituality and being you

2719
02:16:00,200 --> 02:16:01,360
Speaker 5: put yourself and all that.

2720
02:16:01,640 --> 02:16:04,920
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that. Yeah, I don't want

2721
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,840
Speaker 4: to hear that. I did draw a line. We all

2722
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:10,200
Speaker 4: made it, you know, we talked about it. We made

2723
02:16:10,200 --> 02:16:12,200
Speaker 4: a decision when we had my man that was on

2724
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 4: the show. Oh yeah, and he got you know, he

2725
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:18,360
Speaker 4: had the situation he had without going into it, HM,

2726
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:23,520
Speaker 4: me having a people, me having people in my family

2727
02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:27,160
Speaker 4: who have done many years and gay they lines man

2728
02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:30,600
Speaker 4: because somebody want to go deciding to drop the damn,

2729
02:16:30,640 --> 02:16:33,360
Speaker 4: whether right or wrong, I can't in good conscience call

2730
02:16:33,480 --> 02:16:35,320
Speaker 4: him on the phone and be with them. And I'm

2731
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:39,840
Speaker 4: coroborating with somebody. You asked Sammy on the show, But listen,

2732
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 4: Sammy's not a part of this show. But he I'm

2733
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:45,320
Speaker 4: asking him questions about what he did and why. That's

2734
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:47,480
Speaker 4: a big difference. Though It's not like he was gonna

2735
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:49,600
Speaker 4: come here and be the third member. You know what

2736
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, That wouldn't happen.

2737
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't want ever, I don't.

2738
02:16:52,440 --> 02:16:54,360
Speaker 7: So let me say this as a gangst chronicles as

2739
02:16:54,360 --> 02:16:56,720
Speaker 7: the first gang of practice, because I'm the first.

2740
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:01,000
Speaker 3: Don't never put a snitch up here again. I don't

2741
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:02,160
Speaker 3: want to never hear snitch.

2742
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:05,320
Speaker 4: And I understand why you feel that way, broke, and

2743
02:17:05,400 --> 02:17:08,040
Speaker 4: you should feel that way. If my mama, you know,

2744
02:17:08,160 --> 02:17:10,240
Speaker 4: if my mama was locked up and you know what

2745
02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:13,720
Speaker 4: I you know what, I got you, bro that's the

2746
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:17,039
Speaker 4: end of the show. He got you, and that's the Jackson.

2747
02:17:18,760 --> 02:17:24,200
Speaker 1: Because well, but at least have Mike conception on one time,

2748
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:26,600
Speaker 1: because I was, I was, I was to hear him

2749
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:30,199
Speaker 1: speak one emergency back on you ain't.

2750
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:36,440
Speaker 3: Stop the worst effect. Keep that quick.

2751
02:17:40,400 --> 02:17:43,120
Speaker 4: Get goodies, man. I've been looking online and I'll be

2752
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:43,600
Speaker 4: seeing you.

2753
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:43,959
Speaker 3: Man.

2754
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:45,920
Speaker 4: I am so proud of you. Dog. Let's give my

2755
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:52,120
Speaker 4: boys a man. You know a lot of times I

2756
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:56,160
Speaker 4: noticed when we open up businesses, instead of doing everything

2757
02:17:56,200 --> 02:17:59,600
Speaker 4: in excellence, we may try to cut corners. Your packaging

2758
02:17:59,800 --> 02:18:03,200
Speaker 4: is a one I saw your retail locations, bro, that

2759
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:04,960
Speaker 4: looked like a place I would want to visit, I

2760
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:05,840
Speaker 4: would want to frequent.

2761
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:10,800
Speaker 1: It was all driven by Dad. Bruh, my father. Man,

2762
02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:13,000
Speaker 1: he left me in eighteen, but you know, he told me.

2763
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:16,440
Speaker 1: I was living in l Ad, I was living in

2764
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:18,800
Speaker 1: the valley, and he told me he had cancer. So

2765
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:20,920
Speaker 1: I just started bringing him some of the products home

2766
02:18:20,959 --> 02:18:26,080
Speaker 1: from California and it started half the uh, the pandemic

2767
02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:27,600
Speaker 1: head And then.

2768
02:18:27,720 --> 02:18:29,480
Speaker 7: The first time they gave excuse me not to cut

2769
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 7: you off. It's the first time they ever gave instruction.

2770
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:33,879
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, because people, you know, when they start

2771
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:34,879
Speaker 7: messing with edibles, they.

2772
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 3: Just go crazy. Yeah, two of them starting with half

2773
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 3: of a gummy. Yeah yeah, it's eighty two.

2774
02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:48,360
Speaker 4: When I feel good, Now restructure.

2775
02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:50,119
Speaker 3: You feel good?

2776
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:50,320
Speaker 4: Right?

2777
02:18:50,680 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 1: But yah, But no, it's just about really just educating

2778
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:03,920
Speaker 1: our people in another way instead of messing with the opiates.

2779
02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:06,000
Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff that I'm always messing with

2780
02:19:06,200 --> 02:19:09,280
Speaker 1: is healing. And like I just created like a non

2781
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:13,440
Speaker 1: alcoholic line of everything that we like to drink, Bourbon

2782
02:19:13,440 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 1: and everything you could think about. I mock telled that

2783
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:19,240
Speaker 1: it took the alcohol out of put cannabis in it.

2784
02:19:19,720 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: So really, I'm really teaching you that, hey, take the

2785
02:19:22,560 --> 02:19:26,080
Speaker 1: alcohol out, put cannabis in it, and we create You know,

2786
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:28,880
Speaker 1: it's all the way because you're healthy, you know what

2787
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean.

2788
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:33,440
Speaker 3: It really helps your body instead of destroying your body,

2789
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:33,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

2790
02:19:34,400 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm giving the young kids an

2791
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:41,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to open up your own bar, a liquor store.

2792
02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,760
Speaker 1: You could take my line and have your own bar,

2793
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:46,680
Speaker 1: and you ain't got to worry about the liquor license.

2794
02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:52,039
Speaker 1: The new world is gonna be sober bars. This shit

2795
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 1: is taken off in Atlanta. It's gonna take off in

2796
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:57,200
Speaker 1: California too. That's the next place that they gonna go

2797
02:19:57,320 --> 02:20:01,879
Speaker 1: in the big the big alcohol the big alcohol companies

2798
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: have already done studies.

2799
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:06,080
Speaker 3: The z all all our kids.

2800
02:20:06,160 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 1: They don't drink alcohol like we did, so they already know. Yeah,

2801
02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:13,040
Speaker 1: they their whole thing is gonna be infused drinks. So

2802
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:16,120
Speaker 1: that's the future and that's where the actual you know,

2803
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:19,520
Speaker 1: liquor companies are going next. So all of my products

2804
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:21,360
Speaker 1: is something that's gonna be able to help you. And

2805
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:24,440
Speaker 1: I just do I do this because I never sold

2806
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:26,959
Speaker 1: death in music, and I ain't gonna sell death this way.

2807
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,280
Speaker 4: So it's it's just the way I could take. You

2808
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:34,000
Speaker 4: gotta applaud that, man. And I've noticed it because I've

2809
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,760
Speaker 4: been checking it out, and I've been checking you out

2810
02:20:35,800 --> 02:20:38,280
Speaker 4: for a few years with it. And I said, man,

2811
02:20:38,480 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 4: because you know, I thought, you know, being in California,

2812
02:20:41,240 --> 02:20:42,960
Speaker 4: I thought they was legal. You know, I'm kind of

2813
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:47,640
Speaker 4: new to just consuming weed. No, I'm new, you know,

2814
02:20:48,160 --> 02:20:50,040
Speaker 4: I'm new to consuming weed and ship like that.

2815
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:50,400
Speaker 3: Right.

2816
02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:52,959
Speaker 4: So last time I was in Atlanta Christmas, down there

2817
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 4: visiting QC and I get, I said, get, but I

2818
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:56,720
Speaker 4: want to get some. Me said, get me. I don't

2819
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 4: say what we I got. You know, this is good stuff, man,

2820
02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 4: It's clean, you know what. Yeah, And the thing I

2821
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:07,920
Speaker 4: like about it, the thing I like about it is

2822
02:21:07,959 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 4: a comedy thing you don't feel high like because I'm

2823
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 4: gonna tell you, I fucked around and got some of that,

2824
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,039
Speaker 4: just because I'm a type of muffucker, like the expiritment,

2825
02:21:16,080 --> 02:21:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm always doing some dumb shit. I got some of that.

2826
02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:19,879
Speaker 4: What's that ship?

2827
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:20,560
Speaker 1: That that ate?

2828
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:23,320
Speaker 4: What's that ship? The ship they selling in the stores? Now,

2829
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:28,400
Speaker 4: what's that the Delta eight? Yeah, I got some Delta eight, right,

2830
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:31,160
Speaker 4: and I ate, you know, I'm always over because they

2831
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:34,879
Speaker 4: taste good too. I had some lemonade gummies, so I'm eating.

2832
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 4: I'm eight about four, the motherfucker's driving. I get home.

2833
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm talking to my mom and her sister, and I'm

2834
02:21:40,600 --> 02:21:42,960
Speaker 4: already gets cool. Then it hit me like I hit

2835
02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:45,240
Speaker 4: two different levels. When I'm sitting there talking to them,

2836
02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:48,119
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, please don't say nothing stupid. Please don't

2837
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:52,840
Speaker 4: let them know I'm high, you know. And I was high, man,

2838
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:55,360
Speaker 4: I was high as a motherfucker. And I was like,

2839
02:21:55,520 --> 02:21:56,400
Speaker 4: what is delta eight?

2840
02:21:57,000 --> 02:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Deltail is just another derivative of the other plant, you know,

2841
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean they keep Delta eight is like a point

2842
02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:06,520
Speaker 1: three percentage. So you know, most of the most of

2843
02:22:06,560 --> 02:22:09,640
Speaker 1: the people that they got corporate jobs, they want stuff

2844
02:22:09,720 --> 02:22:12,040
Speaker 1: at that level because like once you start going into

2845
02:22:12,640 --> 02:22:15,120
Speaker 1: the you know, gorilla glues and everything that that really

2846
02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:18,199
Speaker 1: kills the average smoker. So like a lot of people

2847
02:22:18,280 --> 02:22:20,920
Speaker 1: right now they're making money off the the th a

2848
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:24,160
Speaker 1: c A th A c A is point three when

2849
02:22:24,200 --> 02:22:26,480
Speaker 1: it's not lit, but once you light it, it turns

2850
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 1: into into regular marijuana. So it's just and see we

2851
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 1: don't want We don't want the UH the buy the

2852
02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:40,000
Speaker 1: open market here. They talk about it, but we don't

2853
02:22:40,040 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 1: want it because true Leave True Live keeps trying to

2854
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:46,440
Speaker 1: shut down the actual market. See, if you shut down

2855
02:22:46,480 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 1: the actual market, you're gonna take vapes away, You're gonna

2856
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:52,160
Speaker 1: take anything healthy away. And they're trying to take all

2857
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:56,840
Speaker 1: holistic UH supplements away. So they trying to put all

2858
02:22:57,120 --> 02:22:59,560
Speaker 1: that stuff into one package and take it away. And

2859
02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:02,240
Speaker 1: that's really what we're fighting. It gets you never want

2860
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,520
Speaker 1: your weed to go recreation. You always want to stay

2861
02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:07,320
Speaker 1: at medical because it gives you more options than you

2862
02:23:07,440 --> 02:23:08,320
Speaker 1: get better product.

2863
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,199
Speaker 4: I think they don't school.

2864
02:23:14,040 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 6: Another note too, when we're talking about it, my website

2865
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:22,160
Speaker 6: West Coast dot com. I got it's not cannabis, but

2866
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:26,440
Speaker 6: it's ionic coloidal silver. So that ship and you know

2867
02:23:26,560 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 6: you can research it for yourself.

2868
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 3: Just take my word for your work. Yeah, it was

2869
02:23:34,240 --> 02:23:34,959
Speaker 3: like crazy.

2870
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:36,800
Speaker 4: Minded me a castro, Well, my grandmama.

2871
02:23:37,400 --> 02:23:44,160
Speaker 13: Take the West Coast Campus Coast camp do coloidal silver's

2872
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:47,640
Speaker 13: peer review published literature on there.

2873
02:23:47,959 --> 02:23:49,400
Speaker 3: You know it's not snake oil.

2874
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,720
Speaker 6: You know it's something that been suppressed by the the

2875
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:55,760
Speaker 6: f d A because you know it's natural mineral. Silver

2876
02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:58,480
Speaker 6: is a natural mineral, so you you know, anything in nature,

2877
02:23:58,520 --> 02:24:01,080
Speaker 6: you can't patent it, so you know, the FDAT or

2878
02:24:01,160 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 6: drug you know, companies can't really make no money off of.

2879
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,879
Speaker 3: It, so you know, researching for yourself.

2880
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:10,800
Speaker 6: You know, silver has been proven over centuries and millennia

2881
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:15,119
Speaker 6: to be the number one natural anti viral, anti fungal,

2882
02:24:15,240 --> 02:24:17,879
Speaker 6: anti microbial, anti bacterial.

2883
02:24:18,080 --> 02:24:19,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. What if you wear silver

2884
02:24:19,480 --> 02:24:19,879
Speaker 3: in your skin?

2885
02:24:20,760 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, helps your skin if you got any kind

2886
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:24,800
Speaker 6: of legions or rashes or whatever. So, like I said,

2887
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:27,240
Speaker 6: don't don't don't take my work of research it for yourself.

2888
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:29,440
Speaker 3: Take work, you know what I'm saying. But but you

2889
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 3: can go to West Coast Cam also and coastcam dot.

2890
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:37,320
Speaker 4: Com, gotam and make sure you'll visit gainst the chronicles.

2891
02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:41,840
Speaker 3: But the most important yeah, yeah for sure.

2892
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 4: How is this is the male man? Can people order

2893
02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:46,039
Speaker 4: this through the mail?

2894
02:24:46,360 --> 02:24:48,120
Speaker 3: You can? Yeah, you can do it through the mail.

2895
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 3: You can do it through the mail. Uh, goodies, just here,

2896
02:24:52,800 --> 02:24:53,440
Speaker 3: give good.

2897
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:57,760
Speaker 5: Just help give gid check your Instagram facebo. Stop being

2898
02:24:57,879 --> 02:25:00,480
Speaker 5: lazy man, get out there, research out here.

2899
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:02,080
Speaker 4: And you know what, shout out to the homey a

2900
02:25:02,280 --> 02:25:07,360
Speaker 4: keen holding it down, holding it down. Yeah, I thought

2901
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:09,200
Speaker 4: that was him. Text me, man, get your ass over.

2902
02:25:10,000 --> 02:25:13,640
Speaker 4: There were time to go and we out well. That

2903
02:25:13,720 --> 02:25:16,560
Speaker 4: concludes another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be

2904
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:18,840
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02:25:18,920 --> 02:25:22,320
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2907
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:27,080
Speaker 4: leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangst

2908
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:29,360
Speaker 4: the Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron M.

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02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 3: C a Tyler.

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02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:33,040
Speaker 4: Our visual media director is Brian Watt, and the audio

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02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:35,520
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