1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: All right, here we. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: Go spreading in the corn. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 4: Ten seconds of aining, he just goes, show me up 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 4: to the basket. 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 5: Under the basket, it's the truth for the wind. God 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 5: make a miracle. 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: I just up the water. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Hit that one from the parking lot. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 6: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 6: Bett MGM. This is the early week college basketball betting preview. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 6: I'm stucky, and joining me as they always will earlier 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 6: in the week are Mike Calberys. 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: Greg. Wow, we have a lot to get to today, gentlemen. 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 6: We last week we were on Tuesday, not the greatest late 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 6: again Monday, we will touch If you have a game 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 6: or two that you want to touch on tonight, more 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 6: than welcome to do so. But we'll also hit some 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 6: games on Tuesday. Little better card. Overall, we'll recap the weekend, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 6: get some rants in, and we'll also talk a little 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 6: buy sell in the sec But let me eat. I 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 6: guess let's start with just something you took away, one 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 6: or two things from the weekend. 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Greg, hope you enjoyed the weekend and what do you got? 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? First off, I did enjoy the weekend. 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate you asking that I was in Detroit for 28 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: my Lions victory last night, and I'm honestly afraid for 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: my opposition these days. It's just turning up me for 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: the first time in a very long time in the 31 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: last seven days, which I'm hoping translates to the college 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: basketball bets this week. One thing I learned this weekend, 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: I don't trust Arizona. They're like every analytics site's top 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: two favorite team in the country. Still right now, I 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: have some serious concerns about how this team performs on 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: the road, and I think this is becoming a thing 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: in the Tommy Lloyd era. Going back to last year. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: Last season, great basketball team, they were three four on 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: the road outright against top one hundred opponents. This year 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: that Duke win was carrying a lot of weight early. 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: But now they're one and two outright against top one 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: hundred ops. They're just four and four outright in their 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: last eight games. And if you watch this team, they 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: don't really have much of a backup plan. 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: If they can't just hang. 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: One hundred on you, it's very difficult to do that 47 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: in conference play, in true road situations. I thought Washington 48 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: State did not even really play particularly well, and they 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: just controlled that game by dictating tempo. Arizona was extremely 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: frustrated Kyle and Boswell. Zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: from a star point guard. That can't happen. So while 52 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: Ken Palm and everybody tells me this is the second 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: best team in the country, I'm fading Arizona on the 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: road for the foreseeable future. 55 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 5: Anytime we can catch a good number of points. 56 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So my question, I sort of agree with you. 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 6: I mean, look, they're gonna be powerrated the top five team, 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 6: but I have similar questions. But my and then my 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 6: main concern is as we get closer to March, how 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 6: much are we really going to learn? Because the PAC 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: twelve is so down. I mean, I remember I was 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 6: tweeting about this over the weekend twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen eight. 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 6: You would get eight PAC twelve teams in the tournament, 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 6: five or six top five seeds. And now we're I 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 6: mean fast forward five seasons. We're talking three is what 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 6: you're last year. Three probably this year if Colorado. 67 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: Doesn't pick it up. So how much are we gonna learn? 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: I mean, UCLA is, so I don't know how much 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 6: we're actually gonna know, and we're gonna have to make 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: some like you you're gonna say, look, I'm still selling 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 6: Arizona not a buyer, because I don't think we're gonna 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 6: have a ton of great data points because of what 73 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 6: the PAC twelve looks like. 74 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Do you agree with that? 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 5: One hundred percent? 76 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: You're right. 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I think it's one of those teams I think you're 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: gonna have to pick your spots with because when they win, 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: they're going to win big. They're very good at home, 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: like it's not going to be a surprise to see 81 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: them beat any team in this conference, like one hundred 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: to fifty seven, when they're. 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 6: Gonna have some crazy blogs that keep their analytical probile 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 6: so high all year. 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, I just to me, it feels like 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: there's enough data going back, including last season, which I 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: get it, it's a totally different team. A couple of these 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: guys were on the team. They'll Ballow and Larsen especially 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: key pieces. But I just think the way they play 90 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: opens them up to some dangerous, dangerous spots on the road, 91 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: and that's something I'm circling. 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: Yep and staying out West. We talked about this before. 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 6: I've just mentioned I mean Santa Clara finally beating Gonzaga. 94 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: Kazaga is not it's they are not scary. 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 6: Uh So, some of the West Coast teams that were 96 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 6: used to seeing are way down this year. 97 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Calvary's how was your weekend? It was good. 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed, you know, some college basketball games. The 99 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: NFL games. I have to bristle a little bit because 100 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: NFL fans love to poke shots at you know, college 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: football where it's like this bowl game is awful, everybody 102 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: opts out. There was some awful football being thrown around 103 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: in some of the blowouts, but it just in general, 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: I think that this is the time of year really 105 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: where people start to open up a little bit of 106 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: extra time for college basketball. So we're, you know, one 107 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: by one, we're bringing people in as we move, you know, 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: closer to February. And for that reason, I think it's 109 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 4: okay that we're at this confusion point in the season 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: because everything that you're saying, I think also extends beyond 111 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: that to really the rest of the top ten. It's 112 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 4: like there's so many teams that you can't say are 113 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: reliably great at this point. Really there's Yukon and Purdue, 114 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: particularly when Yukon gets cleaning back, and then everybody else 115 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 4: more or less like North Carolina, I think you can 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: make a compelling argument should be the third best team 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: in the country. 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 7: I don't feel great saying that. 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: I think there's lots of debates that you can have 120 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: back and forth, but I'll save that a little bit 121 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: for the rant. The one part that I want to 122 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 4: get into in terms of just overall confusion for me 123 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 4: is the Big Twelve. I think we can all agree 124 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: that the Big Twelve has the potential to be the 125 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: best conference top to bottom. But you have Texas losing 126 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: on the road to West Virginia. They turn them over 127 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: twenty two times. They finally get that breakout game from 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: ASMIS and they hold battle to blow fifteen points and 129 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: they lose. That's really troubling. Houston now losing back to 130 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 4: back games. I know it was close against TCU, but 131 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: I think that starts to bring into, you know, a 132 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 4: question in terms of their potential and the reliability on 133 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: the offensive end, and the last piece of it of 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 4: it is because everyone else is losing in the Big 135 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 4: Twelve now, we have to just artificially inflate Kansas. 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 7: I'm still not ready. 137 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: To do it. 138 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: I know the Oklahoma will win was impressive. They know 139 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: in terms of game control, they were always in control 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: of that game. But it's still the same narrative on them. 141 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 7: Going into the game. 142 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: Mccullor and Dickinson accounted for forty nine percent of the 143 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: Jayhawks scoring and forty six percent of their shots from 144 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: the field, and then they score forty five. 145 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 7: Of seventy eight points on Saturday. 146 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: So I still think this is the exact same team 147 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: in terms of my perception of them that I came in, 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: despite them getting a quality win. 149 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I agree. 150 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 6: I late last week I tweeted, if you have to 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 6: take three teams for your life to win the national title, 152 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: who were you taking? 153 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of. 154 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: You could you could throw Kentucky some teams for the 155 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 6: upside if you want to have like an upside team, 156 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 6: and then I think Purdue Yukon, you would take a 157 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 6: lot of Kansas, which I was floored by. So I 158 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 6: think that they're over just by their just you know, 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 6: there the perception of who Kansas usually is in full self. 160 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 6: But where's the secondary scoring. There's no depth. I mean, 161 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 6: there's one injury. They are white. So I think if 162 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 6: Kansas has played like a you know, they've had a 163 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 6: lot of close wins that have just really got that, 164 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 6: they could have a couple more losses and people will 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 6: be like, oh wait, let me look deeper into this 166 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 6: Kansas team. 167 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, I see this candas team at the top 168 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty team. 169 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: But they're not a team I would even remotely consider 170 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 6: for one of the three teams that I think can 171 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 6: win the title. 172 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: Greg, would you agree with that? 173 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 174 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: They got four players, and that's if those four players 175 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: show up that night, right, like any even night, they 176 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: have two players, And look, don't even me wrong the 177 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: top and how. 178 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Gess they're gonna be by March, Like what they're gonna 179 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: fatigue too? 180 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: Right, It's like the ask of Hunter Dickinson and Kevin 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: mccullor is just so large on this team. And I've 182 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: been really disappointed in Dwan Harris because he's a guy 183 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: preseason I thought could take a huge step forward as 184 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: a scorer. 185 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: Clearly that's not the case. 186 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: He's just not wired that way, and this team really 187 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: needs it from him, Like no disrespect to the guys 188 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: that step in in that fit spot. But Johnny Furfey 189 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: and Almarco Jackson are not guys that I think would 190 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: even crack the rotation on a team like Kentucky when 191 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: you what you mentioned for upside right, and look, it's 192 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: a different situation. And honestly, Dickinson and mccullor have been 193 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: that good that they've sort of survived to this point 194 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: despite these issues. But I think you guys are right, 195 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: it's going to come crashing down at some point. And 196 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: I think you know their schedule is still there on 197 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: the road three in the next four, but two of 198 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: those are against Oklahoma State West Virginia. You would think 199 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: they're going to be favorites by a sizeable amount in 200 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 3: those games. We might not see this crash until we 201 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: get to February, late February where the fatigue really doesn't it. 202 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 203 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I also say two of my main takeaways from 204 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 6: the we can involve the same game Kentucky lost. And 205 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 6: by the way, I'll get my rent out. 206 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: Of the way. 207 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: Remember this is a safe space. 208 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: You know what pisses me off most of all. 209 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: Okay, you're ranting now, baby, I'm ran Why not you 210 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: gotta let it out somehow. 211 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 6: That call at the end of the game, I had 212 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 6: text A and M. Luckily it wanted over time. You 213 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 6: can't make that. You cannot blow that whistle. Maybe if 214 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 6: it's in rough like you cannot make that call. Anyway, 215 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 6: I thought that's an absolute must win. It's not a 216 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 6: must win, but just the spot of all spots for 217 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 6: text AM at home. And you know, that's that's what 218 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 6: Wade Taylor could do. That he could get the text 219 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 6: A and drag them to the Final four with performances 220 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 6: like that. 221 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: But that's a great spot for text A and M. 222 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 6: Young Kentucky team still, I thought they've handled themselves really well. 223 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 6: I mean that game was if they had Elite eight 224 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: Sweet sixteen vibes. So this young Kentucky team going on 225 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 6: the road and like getting this experience and they're I'm 226 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: more impressed with them each and every week, and they're 227 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 6: like talking about upside. They're just gonna keep getting better 228 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 6: and you know, if they're peeking towards March, they're in 229 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 6: that three to four teams I think that you would 230 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 6: take if you wanted to, you know, with your life 231 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 6: dependent on it. 232 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: Who could win the national title? 233 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: Stuck just to hop in, Where would you say this 234 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: ranks in terms of coach Cal's coaching performances purely, you know, 235 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: on the floor, putting aside the recruiting, because it seems 236 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: to me not only is he getting the most out 237 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: of them, and I agree that I think they're best 238 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: basketball maybe ahead of them, but also he's doing a 239 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: great job in terms of the rotations and figuring out 240 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 4: who needs to be on the court. Went like, where 241 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: do you rank this in terms of his performances in Lexington? 242 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 6: It's why up there and it's early, it's still we're talking, 243 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 6: you know, it's January, so we'll see. But they can 244 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 6: shoot too, Like, and they're actually shooting threes. I mean, 245 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 6: the last couple of years, it just was a non 246 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 6: existent part of the team. This has the potential to 247 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: be by far his best job given what he came 248 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 6: into the season with. 249 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, this team has national title. I would consider them. 250 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 6: If I had to take three teams right now, who 251 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 6: I would probably put them in it just because of 252 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 6: the upside, Like if my life depended on it, or 253 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 6: I get one hundred million dollars, if I picked the 254 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 6: right team, I might go like Purdue, you know, UKN 255 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 6: and then take okay, who has the upside and it 256 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 6: might be probably Kentucky right now from what I've seen, 257 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: would you agree, gregs. 258 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 5: A hundred percent? 259 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think upside Kentucky's at the very very top 260 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: of my list. Like I don't even think they're in 261 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: the top three. I think it's just clearly them. They 262 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: those freshmen, especially Shepherd and Dillingham, like those guys are 263 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: serial killers, man like, they're just they're wired, like pure maniacs. 264 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: And to have those guys coming off the bench is 265 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: just nonsensical. I can't remember really any team, especially even 266 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: through Calswan and done Era, where there's been two. 267 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 5: Guys like that. 268 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Normally these guys would be like facing the team type guys, 269 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: and they have so many different ways that can beat you, 270 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 3: and I think it is really notable. The things that 271 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: are best at are things that don't look like Kentucky 272 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 3: teams the last few years, and Oscar sheet Wave was 273 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 3: a big part of that, and it's a. 274 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 5: Totally different style. 275 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: The one thing I would note that just has me 276 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: a little scared, I guess is after the game, if 277 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: you listen to cal they really got back in the 278 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: game in the final three minutes by just letting Rob 279 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: Dillingham rock right get out of the way, and this 280 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: kid's gonna hero ball us to overtime and it was 281 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: incredible to watch. After the game, Cal was very pointed 282 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: that he regrets how that went down. He said he 283 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: thought that hurt them in overtime. And look, I don't 284 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: think there's ever gonna be a way to put a 285 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: leash on a guy like Bob Dillingham, But I am 286 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 3: curious when we get to March, is Cal gonna try 287 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: and sort of fit these guys into boxes in ways 288 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: that he hasn't up until this point in the season. 289 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: Just something to think about. But yeah, on paper, this 290 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: team is so loaded. The upside's there, and everybody's gonna 291 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: pick them to their final four at least. 292 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 293 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well hopefully just for me Lexington, my wife's sake, 294 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 6: they can at least get by. 295 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's in the first on this year. 296 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, there's still some defensive issues that they'll have 297 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: to clean up, I think, but they're only going to 298 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 6: get better. And that text saying empty and like I 299 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 6: talked about, great Spot, those are all upperclassmen do like 300 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 6: men and Kentucky wouldn't go away like they couldn't put 301 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 6: a kill shot in them. So yeah, I thought that 302 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 6: was a really impressive game for both teams. But I 303 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 6: guess it's a good transition into the SEC. Last week 304 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: I did the Big Ten. Let's talk a little who 305 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: are you buying? Who are you selling? It could be 306 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 6: from a value perspective, maybe you're looking to bet them 307 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: a conference future, national title future, or just something in general. 308 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 6: We just talked about Kentucky. But Greg, where do you 309 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 6: want to go? You can go buy, sell one or both. 310 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: What do you got for the SEC? 311 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll hit both of mine real quick. I'm going 312 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 3: to stay in that Kentucky Texas A and M game. 313 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to buy Texas A and M, and I'm 314 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 3: buying after a win. So I was scooping them up 315 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: before this for the record, but I'll keep buying where 316 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: they're at. Look, this is a team that this same 317 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: core of guys won fifteen games in this conference last 318 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: year fifteen and three, and non conference was about as 319 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: disastrous as it could have gone for this team. They 320 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 3: had serious injury issues. They were without Radford and Coleman 321 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: both for weeks at a time. 322 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 5: Now they're finally healthy. 323 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: And in the week before this Kentucky game, guys, Wade 324 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: Taylor was just horrendous. He was two for sixteen against Auburn. 325 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: The game before that, he was three for twelve from 326 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: three against LSU. And they are at their best when 327 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: he is making shots, clearly like he did in the 328 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: Kentucky game. But even in the Kentucky game, guys, he 329 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: was one for eleven from inside the arc. I don't 330 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: think wayde Taylor's playing his best ball. I'm very confident 331 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: that that is going to turn around at some point. 332 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: He is one of the most talented guards in the country. 333 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: And I just love how tough this team is. They 334 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: get after you. On the board's best offensive rebounding team 335 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: in the country, and that's me, Like, that's how they 336 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: won this game against Kentucky despite the heroics, was just 337 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: relentless twenty five offensive rebounds against a guy who's gonna 338 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: be a pro in Aaron Bradshaw. And then on yes 339 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: so too, when Bradshaw was just four foulsand six minutes 340 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: in this game. So I think they're gonna overwhelm a 341 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: lot of the teams in the middle of the pack. 342 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: In the SEC, and that's started with this win over 343 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Kentucky and then on the cell side, for me, I 344 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: am going to sell high. Finally, I'm doing it the 345 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: right way here. Alabama is so I'm gonna sell. I'm 346 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: very afraid of the personnel on this Alabama team. And 347 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: Mark Sears has been phenomenal, maybe an All American with 348 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: the way he's played this year. It's crazy, but they're 349 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 3: two big transfer ads. Aaron Estrada and Grant Nelson are 350 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: very very streaky at best. Nelson, I don't even know 351 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: if we can call him streaky at this point. 352 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 5: He might just not be good enough for the SEC. 353 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: He's gone nine points, zero points, nine points in his 354 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: last three games to start off conference play. He was 355 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: really really shaky at times in some of their biggest 356 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: non conference games as well. If you remember that Arizona game, 357 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: he was three for fifteen from three. I think teams 358 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: will live with him stepping out in the nato ITS 359 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: offense and just trying to bomb you. He's not a 360 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: shooter like that. And Estrada, he's had crazy scoring games, 361 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: but to me, just the collective talent level is not 362 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: as high as it has been with previous Natoates offenses. 363 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: So I think they've had a little bit of a 364 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: scheduled boost to this point if you go through. 365 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: What they've done in SEC play. 366 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the win at Mississippi State was impressive, but they 367 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: opened with Vanderbilt on the road in South Carolina at home. 368 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: They've got Tennessee and Auburn in the next week and 369 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: a half. I think there's gonna be some wake up 370 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: calls for a team that was zero to five in 371 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: the non conference against top fifty opponents on Kempom. 372 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: It's dicey. 373 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: Indiana State's worked their way up into there now to 374 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: give them one good win on the resume, But I 375 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: think when they play the best teams in this conference, 376 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: they're going to lose a lot of these games. 377 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 6: Speaking of selling all, but we might get a little 378 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 6: bit of an inflated number against Missouri, a team that 379 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 6: I mean they lost. Missouri lost again in over time, 380 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 6: but they've had a super tough schedule. 381 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: If you look at it, they. 382 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 6: Probably should have won that South con the game a 383 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 6: little bit of a meltdown late. So in this Alabama team, 384 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 6: I don't I have no issues fading. If you're going 385 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 6: to get like overinflated double digit spread at home against 386 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 6: Missouri the spot eet circle. So I would agree with 387 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 6: you there and go back to text A and M 388 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 6: on a couple of things. This is a team that's 389 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 6: not so they're not they're not three point reliant, right, 390 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 6: So it's not a team that they have an off 391 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 6: shooting night in the tournament. They're going to get upset 392 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 6: because they couldn't hit a three. And you know, it 393 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 6: doesn't matter what they're what their percentage, because they're gonna 394 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 6: get forty five percent of their misses. But they're also 395 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 6: shooting twenty seven percent. If you look at Synergy, they're 396 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 6: in the first percent tile in wide open jumpers. 397 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: And let you look at last year. It's a team 398 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: that's not a good shooting team. 399 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 6: So don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that, but 400 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 6: it's a team that would should should finish around thirty 401 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 6: one thirty two percent from three, which isn't great. But 402 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 6: they're at twenty seventh and they're not that bad. And 403 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 6: you mentioned it, Taylor generally one of the best finishers 404 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 6: in the country too. I do think and Buzz said this, 405 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 6: he said, the single most impactful rule change in my 406 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 6: coaching career was the block charge rule, and they are 407 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 6: like a healter skelter defense. They're like hurt by this. 408 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 6: There's something there that they're still adjusting to. But you're right, 409 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 6: injuries early in the season. One of those teams that 410 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: looks like that's a win that can like all right, 411 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 6: you know if they lost that. 412 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: Game, and. 413 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: But I think them getting that win is getting healthier. 414 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: I agree. I think it's a team that I'm going 415 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: to continue to. 416 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 6: Look to buy on. Now, I will say, not all 417 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 6: spots to create people. You want to know what's a 418 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 6: great spot text and gets that win. Arkansas loses, I 419 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 6: know you cannot. I need to see a pulse from 420 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 6: Arkansas before I even look. Yeah, don't. I don't want 421 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 6: any part of them. They look jed zombie status. I 422 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 6: want no part of Arkansas. They could wake up and 423 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 6: beat jaxas A and M, but they're not getting my money. Mike, 424 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 6: that's on SEC. 425 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and sell on Georgia. You know, 426 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: Mike White hasn't playing really solid defense. They're top fifty 427 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: and Ken Palm and Torviick. But when you look at 428 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: the schedule, I own one against Quad one three and 429 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: three against Quad two and nine to zero against everybody else. 430 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: And I think some people would look at that six 431 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 4: point loss to Tennessee, a game that they covered, as 432 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: a great sign. But in my eyes, that's as good 433 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: as it's going to get for them. Offensively, they knocked 434 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: down fourteen triples, they turn it over less than ten times, 435 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: but they couldn't get a single stop on Dalton connect 436 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: when he had the ball down the stretch. And I 437 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: think for that reason, when you look at their record 438 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: twelve and four overall, two and one an SEC play, 439 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 4: I think you still may get some good numbers with 440 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: these matchups coming up. They travel to Columbia to play 441 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: South Carolina, Kentucky and Florida. 442 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 7: You know, with the home game with. 443 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: LSU in the mix, I think they're going to be 444 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: exposed given that slate. And I'll push back a little 445 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 4: bit on Alabama. This is actually a team here for 446 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: the BISEL side. 447 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna say Arkansas, and I was not gonna 448 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: let you push back. Yeah, no, I agree. 449 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 4: I think Arkansas I need to be put in time 450 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 4: out there on gambling probation for the foreseeable future. But Bama, 451 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: what's interesting to me you look at and you mentioned 452 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 4: it in terms of the earlier schedule, losing those games 453 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: to the top fifty teams. They lose four out of five. 454 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: Those were at Clemson, Purdue, Creighton, Arizona. They're competitive in 455 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: most of those games. But since then, the thing that 456 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 4: I focus in on the most and where I really 457 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 4: view their overall ceiling is their defense. Their defense is 458 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: playing better. I understand that the schedule got a lot 459 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: more manageable, but their top sixty and Ken Palm Mentorvik 460 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 4: and they did it against Toulouse. Smith in the Mississippi 461 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 4: State game, even with Pringle, I think he played six minutes. 462 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: He fouled out in six minutes of action, which was ridiculous, 463 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: and that put a lot of pressure on Nelson. 464 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 7: They still coax a five. 465 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: For fifteen game out of them, and that's really why 466 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 4: Mississippi State was drawing dead in that game. They need 467 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 4: Smith to be a dominant player on the offensive end. 468 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: I agree with the assessment on Estrata play a lot 469 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: at Hofstra. He could be a streaky player. I think 470 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: he can help them, you know, play above themselves in 471 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 4: some games, but he definitely needs to bring them more 472 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: on the offensive ends seers being this you know, stabilizing factor. 473 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 7: I get it. 474 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 4: But overall, I think right now on Bama because the 475 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 4: defense has figured something out where early in the year 476 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: it looks like they were going to be outside the 477 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: top one hundred defensively to do some things. I don't 478 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: know if it's full scheme, I don't know if it's 479 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: you know, personnel, whatever it is, They're at least competitive 480 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 4: to the point where I'm interested to see what the 481 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: number is on Saturday at Rocky Top against Tennessee because 482 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 4: this Miszoo game, I think is really going to swing 483 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: it if they cover a huge number. I think this 484 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 4: number is probably going to be closer against the volunteers 485 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: and it may be a pass. But if they don't 486 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 4: cover against Miszoo and I can get I don't know. 487 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: You stuck you telling me what do you think the 488 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: spread should be on Alabama Tennessee in Knoxville? 489 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: What is that game Saturday? 490 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 7: That's Saturday? 491 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I make it Tennessee minus three and a half. 492 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, So I ad my you know number in my head. 493 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 7: Five is my bet. 494 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 6: I bet it probably goes. I bet it probably opens 495 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 6: four and a half or yeah. 496 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: So if I can get in there in that range 497 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: kind of on the cusp of you know, certainly above 498 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: one possession. I'm interested in Alabama. I think that's that's 499 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: gonna be the game for me for the rest of 500 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: the year. That's gonna tell me what I need to 501 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: know about this team. Is it smoking mirrors with their 502 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: improved defensive play or is it for real? And you know, 503 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 4: to what El's point, is there anything going on with 504 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: their front court that they can get any consistent scoring? 505 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 7: Because if they can't, I just don't see. 506 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: Sears being able to play hero bawl and to carry 507 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 4: them despite how well he's playing. 508 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 7: So that's why I'm buying on Obama. A bit of 509 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 7: a disagree here. 510 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: I'm I'd be like four point two for what it's worth. Now, 511 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: got going back to Arkansas? 512 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Just is there? 513 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: I don't like, is there any hope? So there's gonna 514 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 6: be some Arkansas spots, right, So it's gonna be like muscling. 515 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: They're gonna be at home. It's still is there any case? 516 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 6: Like Mitchell shouldn't be starting that. I feel like I'm 517 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 6: you shouldn't be starting to see Davis. I mean, I 518 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 6: don't know what's going on there. A guy who I mean, 519 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 6: you were one of the best moments just from sports, 520 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 6: Like they beat Kansas, Muscleman comes over there crying. He's 521 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 6: crying talking about all the work he put in, and 522 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 6: I mean he went for I think he dropped like 523 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 6: twenty four in the second half. And then you know 524 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 6: Muscleman saying how much of a leader he is, he's 525 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 6: late to things not starting because of it, and the 526 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 6: whole operation, Like, is there any case that you can 527 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 6: see where all right, look, it's this is the low 528 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 6: point we have to start buying Arkansas or is there 529 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 6: just no put him on the burner until you see something. 530 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: So the case would be Eric Musselman, and I would 531 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: listen to anybody making that case because go through what 532 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: must has done in his career, He's essentially always had 533 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: good teams. I mean he's had teams finished below five 534 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: hundred and conference play. At Arkansas, they were seven to 535 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 3: eleven his first year, they were eight and ten last year. 536 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 3: But overall, like he's won twenty games or more all 537 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 3: eight years of his careers ahead coach, So this would 538 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: be shocking if they just like completely spiral and finished 539 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: below five hundred on the season. With that said, if 540 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: you've watched this team at all in the last three games, 541 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: which I know both of you and I have, it's 542 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 3: it's a disaster, right, And I don't think it's the 543 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 3: roster that's the problem. 544 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: Right. 545 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 3: He's the biggest transfer portal guy and that's boom or bust. 546 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: We've seen it work for teams. We've also seen it 547 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: completely derailed seasons. 548 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: And sometimes you can survive one, maybe two problematic guys 549 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: right now, like Keon Minifield was added midseason, and then 550 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: he immediately led the team in minutes and shot attempts 551 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: for like three games, and then he comes out in 552 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: the Florida game plays three minutes, Like what is he 553 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: supposed to expect? 554 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: And what does everybody else expect from that? 555 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: Ellis another guy who has been in and out of 556 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: a thirty minute role and then he plays three minutes 557 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: in this game. Devo Davis is a disaster. And like 558 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: you said, he was the best player on the floor 559 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: in the Kansas game. And all three of those guys 560 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 3: have for lack of a better word, just emotional concerns. 561 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 3: Like you can survive maybe one of them having ups 562 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: and downs. You can't survive three guys that play the 563 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: same position that are all frustrated with each other needing 564 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 3: to compete for a spot. So I think this is 565 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: just a disastrous roster build. I don't think this is changing, 566 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: and it's kind of shocking to see because I expect 567 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: higher and just a higher floor at least. 568 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: From an Eric Musselman program. 569 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I looked like it's not even the losses, it's 570 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 6: to how they're losing and how they look and it's 571 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 6: just you know, thirty to forty point blowouts back to back. 572 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: It's like where is the pulse? 573 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 6: Like I don't see And yeah, the roster, the offense, 574 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 6: it's just not there from a consistency perspective. 575 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: And now quick word from our sponsor, Hello Fresh. 576 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 6: With Hello Fresh, you get farm fresh, pre portioned ingredients 577 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 6: and seasonal recipes a little bit right to your door. 578 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 6: Are you too sad from betting wild Card Weekend underdogs 579 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 6: to leave your house? 580 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: No problem. 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If you want to mention a game tonight, 610 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: anything tomorrow, even if you want to throw out something 611 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 6: for Wednesday, feel free to do so. I will say 612 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 6: that I had this spot for New Mexico. Utah State 613 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 6: survived again, survived by one not the same team on 614 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 6: the road. They basically ended New Mexico's season last year. 615 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: But I've been saying, you know, New Mexico's close, right, 616 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 6: and they had the injury that all their guards have 617 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 6: played together. Once they figure it out, and then you 618 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 6: watched it early in the San Diego State game, it 619 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 6: was like, all right, are they're going to figure it out? 620 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: And then something clicked in that game. 621 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 6: So I'm looking to still buy New Mexico while I can, 622 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 6: And like we talked about in our Kickoff Kickoff episode, 623 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 6: I think New Mexico their a team that could be 624 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 6: an fau with their guards, and if they just keep 625 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 6: getting better and stay healthy, their a. 626 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: Team that you just you just won't want to see 627 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: come March. So I'll be. 628 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 6: Looking to see what we get a cheap price at 629 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 6: home on New Mexico against Utah State. But that was 630 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 6: what I've been waiting to see that, And I know 631 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 6: it's only one game, but there was reason to believe, Like, look, 632 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 6: them played together at all, pretty much their entire backcourt, 633 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: got a couple of games under their belt, and then 634 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 6: it looked like everything clicked. So I think New Mexico 635 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 6: could be super scary uh moving forward. 636 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: So that's a. 637 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 6: Spot and a team in general that I have circled. 638 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 6: Greg anything you want to mention on New Mexico indoor 639 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: for tonight or tomorrow. 640 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 5: I love the New Mexico play. 641 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: That was one of my two that I had circled, 642 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: and just to add a no on it, they're seven 643 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 3: and one against the spread at home this year. 644 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: I just love the team. 645 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: I absolutely love the team now that they are fully healthy, 646 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: and that backcourt is one of the best back courts 647 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: in the country. I'm very curious to see what that 648 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: opens at. Do you do you have a number on 649 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: that stock about what you expect. 650 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: I think that. So I'm with. 651 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 7: Doorviick has it in New Mexico minus five. 652 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm praying. I would loved it. If it 653 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: opens two and a half, I would get that. 654 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 6: But yeah, I would like anything under five, Uh, would 655 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 6: be amazing if like how much does the market caught on? 656 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: Maybe because you I'm hoping that, like, hey, Utah State, 657 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 6: they escaped by one, can we get like a cheap 658 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: three on the open? 659 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: Would love that. 660 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 6: But anything under five and it's the pit then that 661 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 6: you just watch them at home too. They're just a 662 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 6: different team at home Utah State. It's not the same 663 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 6: team on there, another team with an amazing home court advantage. 664 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 665 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a set the alerts. One for me for 666 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: sure to try to jump on it if it's. 667 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 5: Three right away. The other one I have circle for Tuesday. 668 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: I've got my eye on Indiana to cover at home 669 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: against Purdue. And this feels gross. It feels disgusting to 670 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: say that out loud if you've watched Indiana this season. 671 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: But I have a theory, guys, and I love this 672 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: Purdue team. I'm probably gonna pick them to go to 673 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: the Final four. I love betting them, I don't like 674 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: fading them. But their season script has essentially followed word 675 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: for word exactly what happens fast year up to this point. 676 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 3: A loss at Northwestern, struggling in Big Ten play on 677 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: the road, undefeated non conference where they look untouchable, like 678 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: they're playing all the hits thus far should be notable. 679 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: Last year Indiana swept Purdue to and oh now, Tray 680 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: Jackson Davis was one of the best players in the country. 681 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: They simply don't have that type of talent. They don't 682 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: have shooting around him like they did with Jalen Hudhafino. 683 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: It's a totally different roster with a lot more problems. 684 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: They've still been really awesome at home this year. Indiana 685 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: is six and one against the spread in their last 686 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: seven games at home. Purdue's one and four against the 687 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: spread in their last five games. 688 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 5: Overall, I kind of think they're hitting a little bit 689 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 5: of a roadblock here. 690 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: It's going to be an emotional game as always at 691 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: Assembly Hall, depending. 692 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 5: On the number I can get. 693 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: I'm interested in Indiana and now if it opens at 694 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 3: like seven or something, I'm jumping off of that. 695 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 5: But Ken Palm's got this as an eleven point Perdue favorite. 696 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: If I could possibly get ten, I feel really really 697 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: great about that. 698 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 6: I'll have to see where the number lands, yeah, they 699 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 6: and where the home court can because obviously it's going 700 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 6: to be electric there. I mean Assembly all for a 701 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 6: big game always, but especially Indiana Purdue and this Purdue. 702 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: Team, and Eadie is so difficult to officiate. 703 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 6: Mainly he gets found way more than they actually call 704 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 6: and then they, you know, the rest want to even 705 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 6: it out, especially on the road, right, So then you're like, 706 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 6: game's become a little more for outfest. But with with 707 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 6: all the uncertainty and how you are calling fouls on 708 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 6: Edie in Assembly Hall with the crowd, it's going to 709 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 6: be like f you if things are like eighties not 710 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: getting calls like Indiana, you could see Edie getting like, 711 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: you know, a second cheap foul with you know, fourteen 712 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 6: minutes ago in the first half. You might just see 713 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 6: way more fouls on Purdue on the other end. So 714 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: that's where the home court advantge can comitted, because there's 715 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 6: just a lot of variants with how whatever crew that night, 716 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 6: how they decide to call it based on Eadie, who's 717 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: getting fouled all the time, and then there's this out 718 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 6: It's it's just human nature, right, you don't want to 719 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 6: have the other teams, you know. Edie gets fouled six 720 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 6: times in the first eight minutes, producing the double bonus. 721 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: But they only have one foul. 722 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 6: And then the coach is the coach, the crowd's yelling 723 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 6: and human nature grass will you know, start giving you 724 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 6: fouls the other way. A lot of airans that that's 725 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 6: where the home crowd could come into it. So yeah, 726 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 6: that's a spotive circle. I'm super curious to see where 727 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: that opens and how sharp it is. Because I agree 728 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 6: at seven, I would win a little more like I 729 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 6: love to look at double digits if we. 730 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: Can get it, Mike, get anything that you want to 731 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: mention for tonight or tomorrow, so. 732 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 4: We're a clean sweep on New Mexico. I love him 733 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: minus five. You guys mentioned just about all of it. 734 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: The only thing I would add is JT Topp and 735 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 4: Nellie Junior Joseph. They are the right mix to be 736 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: able to bang with great Acidbor in this game because 737 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 4: he's been playing out of his mind. Yet despite a 738 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: twenty four and fourteen game, they only beat you NLV 739 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 4: by one. And in the two games that he's been 740 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: held a single digits this year, they beat Santa Clara 741 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: by two, they beat San Francisco by one. So they're 742 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: certainly mortal when he's not playing out of his mind, 743 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 4: and not many teams in the Mountain West have multiple 744 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: bodies that they can throw at him with the kind 745 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 4: of athleticism. Toppins coming off a seventeen sixteen game against 746 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: San Diego State, So I think New Mexico is still 747 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: ascending at this point, and I agree. You know, they 748 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 4: have four superstars. Dent didn't even play all that well 749 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: against San Diego State and they ran them off the floor. 750 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 4: So you know, help anybody if all three of them 751 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: get going at the same time. Mash Spurn in the 752 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 4: mid range and you know Dent being able to bury 753 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: some shots from distance. 754 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 6: Freshman, That's that's a guy that looks like he's still 755 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 6: getting better, you know. So come March, you have your 756 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 6: you have your experienced backcourt, you you know, and they 757 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 6: look like current. 758 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: Let's figure out how we share the ball, who's. 759 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 6: Going to take what distribution the shots, and then you 760 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 6: have I like some of their death pieces that they 761 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: added but a guy like top and keeps getting better. 762 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the formula for uh, definitely a Cinderella run. 763 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: Uh if you want to call it that. 764 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: Back ahead, I'm going to stay in the Mindwest im 765 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: going to lay a huge number with Colorado State. I 766 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: think this is a get right game for Niko Medved's team. 767 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 4: You know, they've lost two in a row, but since 768 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: he's come to four Collins, he's eight and two against 769 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 4: the spread. When facing air Force and this particular Falcons team, 770 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: they're challenged on the offensive end. They mask it by 771 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 4: playing as slow as just about anybody in America. 772 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 7: But unlike a lot of. 773 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 4: Ken Palm Top twenty five offenses, Colorado State's fine playing slow. 774 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: They'll do it in the half court. They don't need 775 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: that transition game to be running and you know, up 776 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: and down the floor. So I don't think that's a 777 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 4: huge differentiator for the Falcons in this one. 778 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 7: And Colorado State's biggest trouble is on the glass. 779 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 4: Air Force can't rebound. They' three hundred and fifteenth in 780 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 4: offensive rebounding percentage. And you know, in terms of their 781 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 4: skill position, who they go to as their go to 782 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 4: score Petritus is really their only option, and I like 783 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: the matchup against Cardia. Cardier fouls out against Utah State 784 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: and Acidbor and really that that was when the game swung. 785 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 4: I think he's going to have a better performance here, 786 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 4: so I don't mind laying a huge number. Colorado State 787 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 4: has covered really big numbers under Medved against air Force before, 788 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 4: so I'd played all the way up to twenty. 789 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 6: Like the look, Greg, curious to get your thoughts before 790 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 6: we get out of here. On in staying in the 791 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 6: Mountain West cal out of state couple losses in a row, 792 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: you know, they haven't been fully healthy off season either. 793 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 6: I do still think that the defensive issues, especially in 794 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 6: the post, which might trouble them. I know against Boise 795 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 6: what Meadows hit like some crazy threes in the second half. 796 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: But is are we should we be worried about Colorido 797 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 6: State or they'll be fine? It's Stevens, it's Medda. Don't 798 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 6: get healthier. And then Boise State like should we be 799 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 6: taking Boise State more serious? You know, get the Colorado 800 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 6: State win following up with the road win at Nevada, 801 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 6: which then I was like, okay, well I don't have 802 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 6: to look and I didn't. I wasn't a believer in 803 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 6: this Boise State team. Point guard play very questionable. But 804 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 6: any thoughts on either Colorado State or Boise, I'll. 805 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 5: Start with Boise. 806 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 3: I don't have too many polarizing thoughts on cal Heraudo State, 807 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 3: to be honest with you. 808 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 5: Isaiah Stevens is awesome. 809 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 3: I love the spot against air Force, just they've lost 810 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 3: too straight. You expect them to be on their a game. 811 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: The history is there, the profiles there. Air Force not 812 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: good at guarding the three point line as well. I 813 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 3: like that spot for sure. I just there's something missing 814 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 3: when I watch Colorado State. On the Boise State side, 815 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: they have a couple guys, actually Degenhart though, who just 816 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 3: like any given night, it's like he's the best player 817 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 3: on the floor. And I think that really matters in 818 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 3: a conference like this where you know there's a lot 819 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: of good teams here, Like the depth of talent in 820 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 3: the Mountain West is really really high this season. 821 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: But if you have a. 822 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: Superstar, like I think Ladie from San Diego State is 823 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 3: the other guy that jumps out at me like he 824 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: can just win you a game. Deagenheard to me, is 825 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: one of those dudes. I think he kind of did 826 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: that against Nevada. Like to me, Black Year really got 827 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: going early and Degenhart just kind of put an end 828 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 3: to it, responding and slowly methodically backing his way down 829 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: into the post people playing off of him. 830 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 5: He finished with twenty nine. 831 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 3: To four, Like he's a superstar, but I like the 832 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: way the guys around him play well as well. Max Rice, 833 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 3: to me, is the guy that I don't think has 834 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 3: played near his ceiling this year. If you look at 835 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 3: his numbers compared to what they've been historically. At least 836 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 3: last year he was forty one percent from three. This 837 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: year only thirty one percent. Looks more like the year 838 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: before when he was twenty seven percent. So at this point, 839 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, is he a good shooter? 840 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 5: Is he not? 841 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: When he hits them, it unlocks a lot of things 842 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: for this Boise State offense that sometimes can feel very 843 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: one dimensional depending on daggonheart. But it's hard not to 844 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: be impressed with what they've done thus far. I mean, 845 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 3: they're sitting here three and oh with the road win 846 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: over Nevada, Like all of a sudden, you're circling this 847 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: team like maybe they could win this conference. 848 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'll end on this. 849 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 6: We just talked about the PAC twelve, which you know 850 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 6: could be a three big league again. 851 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 2: Mountain West. 852 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 6: Pull up the mount West standings if you want to 853 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 6: look at them, if you had now, there's gonna be 854 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 6: some cannibalization, right would you have to remember? 855 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: But if you've got to. 856 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 6: Say how many Mountain West teams end up making the dance, 857 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 6: because you can make a case it could be, you know, 858 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 6: if everything goes right, you can make a case now 859 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 6: at six, right at the ceiling, I assume, I mean, 860 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 6: I guess seven if someone else would like to steal it. 861 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 6: But uh, you know, like air Force wins the conference tournament. 862 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 6: But realistically, how many? How many would you say right 863 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 6: now if you had a guess, are gating and Michael 864 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 6: throw to you first, I'm. 865 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 4: Gonna say five, And I feel really confident in that, 866 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: you know, with San Diego State, Utah State, New Mexico, 867 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 4: Colorado State as the I would say, argue the secure 868 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 4: for there and Boise. At this point, I agree with 869 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 4: you know, Greg's assessment when you go down their wins, 870 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 4: how they're playing lately, and the fact that they can 871 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 4: rely on a superstar. This is still the facto mid 872 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 4: major conference. If you have the best player on the floor, 873 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: that usually is enough to swing things in your favor 874 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 4: on any given night. 875 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 7: So I think they get to five. I agree. 876 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 4: Outside of that, I don't really see any Cinderell run 877 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: coming out of anyone, you know, UNLV or San Jose State, 878 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 4: anyone like that coming from way. 879 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 7: In the back of the pack. 880 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 4: But I feel good about five and certainly more. If 881 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 4: you gave me a market right now, who sends more 882 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: to the Dance the Pac. 883 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 7: Twelve or the Mountain West. 884 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 2: I'll take the Midwest all day. I would day, Greg, 885 00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 2: what are you saying? 886 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 3: I would jump on the bark at the moment that 887 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: it was available of good. So I think, uh, I'm 888 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 3: gonna be a little bit of a contrarian here. I 889 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: think I'll go with four for the number that ends 890 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: up getting there. That's the number they've gotten in the 891 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 3: tournament the last two seasons. Now where I'm gonna be 892 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 3: creative on this is I think it's gonna be an 893 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: unconventional four. It's not the four you would expect, right 894 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: we said, Utah State, San Diego State, New Mexico, Colorado 895 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 3: State feel like the obvious four I. 896 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 2: Think, how are we getting air force in the dance? 897 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 3: So not air force, but I think one we saw 898 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 3: it with New Mexico last year, right they were the 899 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: last team to lose a game in the country and 900 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: then they end up just kind of just plummeting through 901 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: conference play. 902 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: They missed the tournament. 903 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who that's gonna be, and it's gonna 904 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 3: hurt my heart if it's Colorado State because I love 905 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 3: watching that team play, but they're in a dicey little 906 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 3: spot right now situation wise one and two. Nico Medven 907 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 3: has not exactly been the greatest results guy in his 908 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: conference play history, So I don't know. I think there's 909 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 3: gonna be a surprise. If I had to put my 910 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 3: finger on it, it would be either New Mexico or 911 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: Colorado State and who ends up disappointing and missing it 912 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 3: and then give me Boise State as the fourth team 913 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 3: that will find a way. 914 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 5: I just love watching Tech and her right now. I 915 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 5: think he's that good. 916 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say that the Colorado State depending what 917 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 6: Creighton does the rest of the year. They dismantled creating 918 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 6: on a neutral court, which you know, like if it's 919 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 6: if they're close that win in particular. 920 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: Could hold a lot of weight. 921 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 6: But I can't wait for the Mountain WES Conference tournament 922 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 6: and I'll say, yeah, I'm gonna go four. I'm very 923 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 6: confident will be four. I could see five. I'd probably 924 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 6: set the line at four and a half. But there's 925 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 6: gonna be some cannibalization, probably too, you might have. There's 926 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 6: gonna be some potential injuries. But you definitely could make 927 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 6: the case for six teams getting there, and I would 928 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,240 Speaker 6: listen to all of them. 929 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: But that'll do it for us. Thanks to Greg. 930 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 6: And Mike for joining me, as always, thanks to our 931 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 6: producer David on the back end. Most importantly, thanks to 932 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 6: all of you for tuning in. We will be back 933 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 6: with the three man week on Wednesday, and then Calibre's 934 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 6: myself and Mike Randall will be back later in the 935 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 6: week for the weekend adding preview, So we will see 936 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 6: you later this week. 937 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 2: Good luck on all of your wagers, and we'll catch 938 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: you all soon. 939 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: Cheers. 940 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 4: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or 941 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: someone you care about has a gambling problem, help is 942 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 4: available twenty four to seven at one eight hundred Gambler