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Speaker 1: Live from the Winter Trust STUDIOSCFM Chicago KIM and our

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Speaker 1: radio station. Here's Fred and Angie. Good morning everybody. It's Monday,

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Speaker 1: June first. Fred and Anti are here. Good morning, Auntie, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Good morning Hello. Um. Lots to get to today, of course, Um,

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Speaker 1: sort of a somber tone today, kind of tough to

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Speaker 1: But obviously lots to talk about this morning, Yes, events

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Speaker 1: over the weekend and more. We also have trending stories

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Speaker 1: in the Entertainment upport in the next half an hour,

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Speaker 1: So Ane, what you have in there? Oh, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know we were doing the entertainment for today. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: we can. Okay, well, well you can work on that.

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Speaker 1: Well here I'll tell you. I'll tell you something that

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Speaker 1: we can talk about in the entertainment report is Okay,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift making an amazing statement it's her most like

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Speaker 1: to say. Okay, and what else do I have here? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I got a local business to plug. Gotta do that

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Speaker 1: because obviously coronavirus on top of everything, that's still a thing,

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Speaker 1: and some local business is trying to stay open. We

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Speaker 1: want to tell you about them each morning, tell us

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Speaker 1: about you as well. Fred Angie dot com will do

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Speaker 1: that after Doza cat It's one h three five Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Glad you have us on all right, Josah Cats on

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Speaker 1: one three five Kiss FM, Chicago's number one heat music station.

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Speaker 1: Fred and Angie, Good morning. Local business to tell you

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Speaker 1: about today is still open during the Rona. The Botanical

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Speaker 1: Cafe on North Lincoln Avenue in Chicago. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: A Delaney. It's Chicago's. This is a combination. It's the

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Speaker 1: first plant shop and cafe hybrid. I guess the only

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Speaker 1: roasters from Crystal Lake. So you could buy a plant

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Speaker 1: This is interesting, that's awesome, right, um. They have a

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Speaker 1: special house Macha latte made from electric blue macha from

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Speaker 1: They're currently opened Wednesday through Sunday from nine to five.

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Speaker 1: That's not serious. Yeah, um electric blue macha from rare Tea.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Okay, that's that's way cooler than

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Speaker 1: I am. I think whatever that drink about, that's what

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Speaker 1: I Yeah, honestly, I don't think I can grow my

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Speaker 1: Rufio can't grow his mustache. Probably that electric blue will

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Speaker 1: add life to the darkness of the pandemic. And this

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Speaker 1: shout out to you Botanical Cafe on the North Lincoln

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Speaker 1: got him right now eight five, five, nine, one one

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Speaker 1: so this dialogue should be both ways. We want to

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Speaker 1: sure that these things don't keep happening. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: Fred and Nanjy, I'm gonna have to have a tremendous

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Speaker 1: upsetting what happened at the police and but you have

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Speaker 1: good police, you have bad police. Got good doctors, get

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Speaker 1: bad back. You got great radio hosts, you get horrible

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Speaker 1: radio hosts. This is the way it is, you know.

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Speaker 1: But so I don't know, we have to figure something

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Speaker 1: as a society as Americans to maybe not to destroy

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Speaker 1: property and damage and let's do something different peacefully. Are

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Speaker 1: you noticing the same thing that they're reporting in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the protesters that you've had to

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Speaker 1: arrest for violence, Are you noticing that the majority of

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Speaker 1: them are not Chicagoan. That's definitely true. And you know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of cars on the surrounding area. Let's

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Speaker 1: just use the gold Coasters say that are parking two

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Speaker 1: three miles away to have different state plates that are

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Speaker 1: coming here, that they're not residents of Chicago or Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and there's you know, a lot of them Arety's young

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to use the term millennial kids that

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Speaker 1: think this is the way it has to be done.

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Speaker 1: Paid protesters probably well, you know what, that's funny. That

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Speaker 1: has happened in the past too, But you know, and

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Speaker 1: policing has changed too. You know, my father was a

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Speaker 1: policeman and in the sixties this didn't happen. And the

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Speaker 1: seventies this didn't happen. Sure there was there was rioting,

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Speaker 1: and there was and there was you know, democratic convention,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't. Today at this extent, this is we've

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Speaker 1: lost control of this. And to see multiple cities go

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Speaker 1: through the same thing Chicago's going to, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: really so. And listen, I understand what happened was horrible.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying the police officer was right.

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Speaker 1: He was probably in the wrong. Probably he wasn't well,

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Speaker 1: he murdered. He murdered a man on video, so you

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Speaker 1: know what, he was in the wrong. You know what, yes, three,

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Speaker 1: you know we are trained. We are trained to do

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Speaker 1: that with the knee and the back. You know, a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of playing. I don't know nine minutes, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. No, I don't, I h we don't. We

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Speaker 1: don't have to debate that. You know you should. But

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Speaker 1: that's a different story. And you know what, but not

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Speaker 1: every policeman, a policewoman should be crucified because of that. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's an important point. Jaken. Look, I

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Speaker 1: know you're in the you're right there doing this every

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Speaker 1: single day, and you're tired, and I know you're trying

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Speaker 1: to protect our city, UM. And I know that I

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Speaker 1: hear the the the larger point that you're making here,

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Speaker 1: which is that you know you have the best intentions

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Speaker 1: and many of your fellow police officers in Chicago do.

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, because of of these isolated incidents of really bad,

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Speaker 1: bad people with badges, UM, I think everybody, probably many

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Speaker 1: people approach you, UM with a mentality, with a vigor,

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Speaker 1: with a with an aggression or a or a disdain

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Speaker 1: that that you don't. You're not after that, that's not

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Speaker 1: that's not who you are about what right? Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you and I know you live downtown too, and like

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Speaker 1: you said, with your your windows being boarded up, you

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Speaker 1: know you have the right to go out and get

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Speaker 1: some fresh air, walk your dog, whatever, walk with your girlfriend, wife, whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know. And but tell you what, at two to

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Speaker 1: three in the morning, if you called me because some

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Speaker 1: babulo is breaking your door down, me being five eight,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy pounds, I'd come and fight him

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Speaker 1: to the to my last breath, because I'm here to

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Speaker 1: support you. I am here to protect you and your

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Speaker 1: family from criminals. And the problem is, you know, the

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Speaker 1: police are starting to feel differently now. You know we're needed.

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Speaker 1: No matter what, when I retire, I'm going to need

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Speaker 1: the police. You're absolutely needed. And you're you're right. Not

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Speaker 1: all police are bad, not not all people are racist,

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Speaker 1: not all police are bad. We can't just use one

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Speaker 1: large brushstroke for a whole society or a whole group

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Speaker 1: of people. Racism is individual, you know, it's it's each

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Speaker 1: person should be judged by their character and you know,

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Speaker 1: not their color or not their badge. And matter. A

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Speaker 1: lot great people down there over the week, you know,

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Speaker 1: over the last few day. Some people that don't want

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Speaker 1: to smash windows and stuff, they want to be down

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Speaker 1: there just just you know, because they're upset. And I

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Speaker 1: get that. But then I've meant a lot of bad people.

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Speaker 1: It's just they don't even care about this Floyd Gay all.

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Speaker 1: They care about his breaking stuff and they just kind

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Speaker 1: of want to destroy stuff. And those are people that

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Speaker 1: are ones that are bad. You know. I almost wish

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Speaker 1: we can everyone could just shut all these lights off,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, rayson would go away if we

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Speaker 1: just all lived in a dark weren't really matter what,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it won't. But I don't know who knows.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, We appreciate your calling. I'll be

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Speaker 1: safe out there, and thanks thanks for calling your public

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Speaker 1: form and just let us let people know that we're

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Speaker 1: just because we're on your side and one blue helmets

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Speaker 1: and sticks, that doesn't mean we're a bad guy because

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Speaker 1: behind that shield, I got kids and family and wife

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Speaker 1: and I respect you, you know, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no, and I'm not I'm not here to combat him.

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Speaker 1: But he basically he got to the point in talking

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Speaker 1: talking it out that it almost I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say that he contract he did contradict himself in the beginning,

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Speaker 1: because I didn't. I really believe that there are there

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Speaker 1: might be some overlap. And again, I'm not there, I'm

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Speaker 1: not doing this. I don't and I'm not. I can't

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Speaker 1: possibly relate directly. I can't say that enough, right, I

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Speaker 1: get it. But the people who are looting and breaking things,

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Speaker 1: they may also be part of the cause. But I

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Speaker 1: think what we're finding is that the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: people who want to be heard are not doing those things.

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Speaker 1: And I don't believe that by standing there and protesting

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Speaker 1: and seeking justice for George Floyd, that you are endorsing

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Speaker 1: in any way the bad behavior. The problem is the

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Speaker 1: bad behavior. It's detracting from it's detracting from the peaceful protesting.

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Speaker 1: I would see it the other way than the way

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Speaker 1: that he presented it. But you know, he's allowed to

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Speaker 1: his opinions because well, he's there in the middle of it, all, right,

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Speaker 1: he is. And then it's just it's hard. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to listen to some of these conversations and not lose

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Speaker 1: my damn mind and keep my professionalism but I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my best. Um. Yeah, and again we said this from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. We're gonna take calls for the next couple

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Speaker 1: of hours. And people are going to agree with some

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Speaker 1: of them. People are are not going to agree with

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Speaker 1: some of them. Some of these people are are most

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Speaker 1: of these people are not professional speakers. And this is

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Speaker 1: raw and emotional and and people are sharing, and they're

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Speaker 1: telling you what's on their mind. And and you know, look,

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting exercise for result to hear um

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Speaker 1: from a from a cross section of Chicagoans. What's going

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Speaker 1: through everyone's mind? What do we do next? Um, I

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Speaker 1: want to take a break from this, play a song.

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Speaker 1: We'll do an entertainment story, and then we'll come back

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Speaker 1: and do some trending stories and then we'll get back

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Speaker 1: to some more phone calls in a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: we'll just take a breath. We'll come back in a second.

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Speaker 1: Fred and Angie one on three five. This is Angie's

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Speaker 1: Entertainment Reports with Fred and Angie one three five Kiss

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Speaker 1: up to You by comed Um. You know, with entertainment

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Speaker 1: right now, that's got a lot to do with what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the world. So, um, that's where we'll

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Speaker 1: go Chrissy Teagan is donating two hundred thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: bail out protesters. After President Trump declared Saturday night Maganite

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Speaker 1: at the White House, she tweeted in celebration of Maganite,

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Speaker 1: she decided to donate one hundred thousand dollars to bailing

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Speaker 1: out protesters across the country. Then, fifteen minutes later, after

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Speaker 1: a Twitter user called the protesters rioters and criminals, she tweeted, up,

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Speaker 1: let's make that two hundred thousand dollars. John Cusack was

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Speaker 1: pepper sprayed had his bike smash in by cops, he says,

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Speaker 1: in Chicago during the protests over the killing of George Floyd.

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Speaker 1: The star tweeted videos of cops coming at me with

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Speaker 1: batons and hitting his bicycle for filming a burning car

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night. That tweet came hours after he tweeted

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Speaker 1: he was hit with pepper spray, but defended the law

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Speaker 1: enforcement for not escalating violence compared to what he had

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Speaker 1: seen happening in other cities. After President Trump's tweet about

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Speaker 1: protesters for George Floyd, where he called the demonstrators thugs

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Speaker 1: and proclaimed, with the looting starts, the shooting starts. Taylor

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Speaker 1: Swift respond did herself on Twitter and a very amazing tweet.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, she said, I gotta say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: making me like you, Taylor Swift, Am I hearing what

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Speaker 1: I think I'm hearing? You know what? Yes, after stoking

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Speaker 1: the fires of white supremacy and race them in your

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Speaker 1: entire presidency, you have the nerve to feign moral superiority

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Speaker 1: before threatening violence. When the looting starts, the shooting starts.

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Speaker 1: Taylor then issued a warning saying we will vote you

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Speaker 1: out in November. Taylor gotta like from me, first time

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Speaker 1: I ever liked a Taylor Swift treat. I gotta say it.

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Speaker 1: More to check out online, including all the images from

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Speaker 1: the weekends m A lot of celebrities also posting social

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Speaker 1: media messages, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift. As I just said,

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Speaker 1: all at Fred Andree dot com. Thanks for having us

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Speaker 1: on this morning. I know, not the normal format now,

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Speaker 1: but we normally do um, you know, trying trying to

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Speaker 1: this morning with some of the lighter stuff, and then

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Speaker 1: also obviously there's just no way that that we can't

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Speaker 1: get on the air this morning and talk about the

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Speaker 1: events of the weekend and take phone calls and be

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Speaker 1: a forum. UM, so we'll come back, but I think

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Speaker 1: everybody knows what's going on. We'll come back and I'll

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Speaker 1: update you on the impact of the protesting and the

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Speaker 1: violence and all the rest of it from over the

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Speaker 1: weekend and how that's affected the city this morning and

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Speaker 1: what's trending next after Harry Styles on what oh three

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Speaker 1: five Fred and Angie Glad you're here. What's trending in

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Speaker 1: Chicago with Fred and Angie? I'm one O three five

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Speaker 1: Kiss FM. So, of course, in Chicago, over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: peaceful protests following the death of George Floyd turned into looting, violence,

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Speaker 1: and riots. The unrest spread to multiple city suburbs and

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Speaker 1: continues into today. I'm getting my news this morning from

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Speaker 1: our WGNTVUM As of this morning, police in west suburban

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Speaker 1: Aurora they were battling on rests throughout the city last

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Speaker 1: night into this morning. UM, let's see here. Kim Fox

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Speaker 1: says she's working with the FBI to identify outside agitators

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Speaker 1: and she's viewing various sources of video to hold burglars

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Speaker 1: accountable for their looting. Many of the Illinois based COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen testing sites will be closed today. I will post

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Speaker 1: a link to this blog that keeps continually updating from

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Speaker 1: WGN the different things that are happening this morning. There's

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Speaker 1: a link to the ones that will be closing. Let

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Speaker 1: me see what else here. Illinois d m vs were

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Speaker 1: told WGN that many Chicago branches will not open, at

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Speaker 1: least three of them, one on Lexington, one on Elston,

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Speaker 1: and one on Martin Luther King Drive if you're interested

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Speaker 1: in that. And then there's just a mess of different

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Speaker 1: traffic and road closures and metros outshore. No service today.

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Speaker 1: Pay service resumes at six am, except for the Paratransit

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Speaker 1: Downtown fifty five Express service. Nile's free bus CTA resumes

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Speaker 1: at six am, so it would have been already but

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Speaker 1: not in or near downtown Bus service Western Lakefront four

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Speaker 1: ten to forty seventh bunch of train interruptions to this

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Speaker 1: morning as well, and then across the country, at least

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Speaker 1: thirty cities were hit with massive demonstrations over the weekend

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Speaker 1: over the police custody death of George Floyd. More than

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Speaker 1: two dozen ordering curfews and at least sixteen calling in

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Speaker 1: the National Guard, including Illinois and the City of Chicago.

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Speaker 1: classes between demonstrators and police saw hundreds in custody and

637
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: dozens injured the night before. In Texas, there's a statewide

638
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: disaster declaration. Mayor lour Lefoot was among the latest to

639
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: summon the National Guard, more than five thousand now deployed nationwide,

640
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: LA four hundred arrests on Saturday, one police officers suffering

641
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: a broken jaw after being hit with a brick in Arizona,

642
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: and an emergency declaration and curfew yesterday. In Minneapolis, where

643
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Floyd died on Memorial Day while being pinned down by

644
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: a white officer, they were racked with violence for a

645
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: sixth and seventh day. It goes on and on. I mean, fortunately,

646
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's just so, it's so, I mean, I

647
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: don't even have the words. That don't have the words today,

648
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, Well, how about why I got one story

649
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: that's not this and it's good news. And to be honest,

650
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: it couldn't have happened. Maybe it was just that one

651
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: bright spot over the weekend. But it was very cool

652
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: to watch two astronauts flifts it off from Kennedy Space

653
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Center on Saturday for the first time in nearly a decade,

654
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: courtesy of Elon Musk and space X. It's the first

655
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: time that a commercial company has successfully launched a crew

656
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: into space. It was cool. The good news continued yesterday

657
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: when space X made a smooth docking with the International

658
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Space Station nineteen hours after takeoff. So the pilots Doug

659
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Hurley and Bob is it Beneican? Hopefully Beneican? I said

660
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: it right, the guys in space. He deserves for me

661
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: to say his name. Man. They were ready to take

662
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: over manual control if necessary. It's space X Dragon capsule

663
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: pulled up to the station, docked automatically, no assistance was needed,

664
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: so they could be there anywhere for one to four

665
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: months in space. But it was a cool thing to see.

666
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: I didn't see that at all, but um, yeah, I

667
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: could tell on Twitter that was really cool. Yeah. I

668
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: don't know, there's a yeah, I'm pretty jealous a little

669
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: guys right now too. All the technology and then the

670
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, it's all I can think

671
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: of the whole time. I'm watching that is how freaking

672
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: smart must you have to be to design that thing

673
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: and think of all those details. I can't. I'm not

674
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: smart enough to even begin to think about it. And

675
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: then the rocket comes back, It lands on its own

676
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 1: landswer perfectly. Yeah, yeah, so cool, it's crazy. It's really cool. Um.

677
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: So we're supposed to take a break. We have our

678
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: friend Leon Rodgers here, so we're gonna kind of yes,

679
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna do our own thing this morning. We're gonna,

680
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna do what we're not that we

681
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: don't normally do what we want, but uh, Leon Rogers,

682
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: good morning, Welcome to friend and Angie. What's up? Brother?

683
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: How you doing? What's up Angie? How are you doing?

684
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: The whole fam over there? Rufio Hello, So Leon is

685
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: um he's across the hall. I just just set this

686
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: up for the I don't know how you couldn't know,

687
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: but he's out of there on WGCI in the morning.

688
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: He's our on our sister station. Uh. He and he

689
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: does many things. It's a television show. He's a comedian,

690
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: he's an activist, he's a leader in our community. And

691
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: we couldn't think of anyone else better to talk to

692
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: this morning, to sort of tell us, I mean, where

693
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: do we begin? What are you thinking? Yeah, you guys

694
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: are on the air all day yesterday, Yes we were, yeah,

695
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, what are you thinking? Man? Uh, my, my homies,

696
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: my friends. As I said, and speak to you to

697
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: days with a heavy heart and to be quite honest

698
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: with you, uh, nineties percent of me is filled with

699
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: anger and just to be one hunted um to watch

700
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: that man be executed like that on camera, and have

701
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: seen many other black man executed on Canada Filando Castile,

702
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: Eric Garner, when you hear about treyvon Martin, when you

703
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: hear about samde Bland, and nothing comes from these things.

704
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I want people to understand, I'm not promoting violence or

705
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: condoning violence against anybody or any person. But there's only

706
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: so much or so so so much you can do.

707
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: There's only so much you can keep boiling a situation

708
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: until it blows over. And George Floyd is a boil

709
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: over Like there's a breaking point to the stuff that's

710
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: going on in Chicago. These young men and women are angry.

711
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Now I'm not talking about the people. There are two

712
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: types of people. First of all, let's explain this. There

713
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: are people that want to expose racism in the police force,

714
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: expose what's happening to African American men and women out

715
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: here in the streets, and then there's people that want

716
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: to exploit it. I'm not talking about the people that

717
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: are exploiting George Floyd death and just running into the

718
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Gucci store to go steal some dulse. Those are not

719
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: the people I'm talking about. I'm about talking about the

720
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: people that are actually out here hurting, and we can't

721
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: get a fair answer anywhere we turn. You try to

722
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: do the peaceful thing, you try to sit down and talk,

723
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen. So for me to sit up

724
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: here and not be honest with you all, who I

725
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: love and respect dearly with co workers, you know what

726
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I respect the hell out of everybody over there.

727
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I can't honestly sit up here and tell you I'm

728
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: happy with the state of affairs, and and and and

729
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: quite frankly, people of non color won't fully understand what

730
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: we go through because you don't have to go through

731
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: it like Fred. Like I could go somewhere with Fred

732
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: and be treated differently than if I go to the

733
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: same spot without Fred. And that's a problem, and that's yeah,

734
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: that's the first step. And Leah Rodgers is on with us.

735
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: And I've been saying it all morning because I think

736
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: it's so important and because I've been asking for guidance too,

737
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: for people like you and other friends of mine in

738
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: the community. You know, what, what do I say? What's

739
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: the right thing to say? Because I can never I

740
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: could never understand what it's like to be you. I

741
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: can empathize, I can hurt, I can want for a change,

742
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: but I don't know what it's like to be you,

743
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: So so I don't know always what to say, what

744
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: the right thing is, what to do except for be

745
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: supportive and be a listener, now, you know, and that

746
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: and I think one that's the best thing. That's the

747
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: first start, being able to listen. See, a lot of

748
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: people are not able to listen, and they want to

749
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: impose how they still it should be handled on a

750
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: situation that's it's just not happening today. This is four

751
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: hundred years of systemic oppression and how people are being

752
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: treated as less than a third of a person. This

753
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: is in the constitution. This is not anything I'm making up.

754
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: This is not conjecture. At one point in time. I

755
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know if they amended it, but in the Constitution

756
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: we were considered as a third of a person. You

757
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,

758
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: Fred and Angie, you know, it starts with listening. It

759
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: starts to just sitting in the room and absorbing what's

760
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: going on. And it's you. You didn't grow up. We

761
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: didn't grow up the same way. None of us did.

762
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: That's what it all makes us unique people. But when

763
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: you say, what can you say to make it right,

764
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: there's really nothing you can say. Your actions have to

765
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: speak because we've heard the talk. We've heard we're gonna

766
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: do this, We're heard we're gonna do that. And then

767
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: you turned around and a guy stands over a black

768
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: man like he's a big game hunter. And then you

769
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: wonder why some people are enraged. And then man same

770
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: way when King died, same way when Malcolm X was

771
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: killed and executed. So you know, it's just a tough time.

772
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: And all I would say is, you know, if you

773
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: have friends, be receptive, sit and listen, Just sit in

774
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: the room and absorb and soak up what's happening. You'll

775
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: never feel the pain that they feel. I mean, it's

776
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: a shame. I have to talk to my daughters, my

777
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: nephew to beets about how to survive a confrontation with

778
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the police. It is we don't have to get You

779
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to do that. We don't have to do that.

780
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: As parents, you have to do that and you had

781
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: to grow up that way. And it's so important I

782
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: think as well for people that you know, don't understand,

783
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: for all those of us that are not in the

784
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: black community too. Check people in our lives that are

785
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: saying things or doing things that they shouldn't be doing.

786
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: That the jokes that they tell that you know, we got.

787
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: We gotta check people and tell them why what they're

788
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: doing is wrong. And I don't think you know, you're

789
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: sitting at there's always that you know, that racist uncle

790
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: at Thanks Being that's talking about all his racist things.

791
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: You gotta check people and not just sit there and

792
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: let people, you know, spread these views and these messages

793
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: that are completely racist and wrong. And Angie and Fred,

794
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, then I don't want to come

795
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: back to me saying we down for the cause. We

796
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: in this with You know, you can't sit up here

797
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: and tell me you're not in this with me, because

798
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: when it's setting done, you're gonna go back to your

799
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: peaceful area where you live. And I have to deal

800
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: with this over here. Like I said, I shouldn't have

801
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: to talk to my kids about if you get pulled

802
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: over driving my car. I should try you got to

803
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: deal with the police. I should not have to do

804
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: that as a father because now not only am I

805
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: worried about them just being out in the world as

806
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: teens or whatever, but now I got to worry about

807
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: the people that are paid to protect them looking at

808
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: them crazy and doing some wrong to them. And you know, um,

809
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: it just comes down to understanding. Listen, be quiet, sit

810
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: in the room, Listen to your friends. See what they're

811
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: going see what they're going through. Because you can't tell

812
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 1: them what they're You can't tell them what they're going through.

813
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: You have to listen, You have to watch. You have

814
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: to be receptive. You have to be receptive. And like

815
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: you said, when you see somebody acting up and saying

816
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: something that's a little off color, check them. Yeah, yeah them.

817
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: You have a voice. We do have a voice, by

818
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: the way, and this isn't I don't intend to make

819
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: a political statement. Uh you know, do what you will.

820
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: But but you know, watch what's happening with our community leaders,

821
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: watch what's happening on the national level, and and cast

822
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: your vote. Do what it is that you have to do.

823
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, check. We're talking about prosecutors, we're talking about judges,

824
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about um um, you know who whomever. I mean,

825
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: we have to we have to look at this from

826
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: every level. And I know you have to go Lee

827
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: and Rogers from w GC. I as our good friend

828
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and obviously well he's our competitor, but you know whatever, Yeah,

829
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and I do. I want to say one last thing

830
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: before I leave. Uh you know, y'all fan man, you

831
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: know I rock with your and I and I don't

832
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: want people to think this is Fred and Angie reaching

833
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: out to their black friend. Lian. Know. We we talked,

834
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: we sit out, we drink together, we kick it. You

835
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I understand where they're coming from.

836
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: It's a it's a good nature thing. And I want

837
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: I want people to understand where I'm coming from. Is

838
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: I want you to really see what's going on. I

839
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: want you to see the pain. I want you to

840
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: see the hurt. But Angie, I got to give a

841
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: special shout out to your husband Jason. He text me

842
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: a two thirty in the morning and it was crazy.

843
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: God had me up and woke. It was over the weekend.

844
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: I was up and woke because I was so angry.

845
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I could not sleep and Jason's words to me like,

846
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Speaker 1: calm me down. So that's when my man A hundred grand.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I ain't trying to post

848
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Speaker 1: you post just because that's your guy. It's important for us.

849
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: It's important for us to, you know, reach out to

850
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Speaker 1: you and let you know that that we see you

851
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: and that you matter and that we're with you. Yeah.

852
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Speaker 1: But Andre it was when I say it was a

853
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Speaker 1: blessing because it hit me at two thirty in the morning.

854
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, out of all people was hitting me before.

855
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Speaker 1: And the message that he's saying, I'm not gonna share

856
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Speaker 1: it because that's between me and him was powerful and

857
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, just so you know, and I let

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Speaker 1: him know that, and I'm letting you know that, and

859
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm letting y'all know. ILL appreciate y'all for giving me

860
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: the platform to talk to your listeners. Well, thank you

861
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: agen to come on, and we appreciate you, We love you,

862
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I got a busy day, but

863
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: you have a loud voice and a respected voice, and

864
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: that's what we wanted you on with us. And I

865
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna share that with the world

866
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: as as we move forward. Let's continue to be great Chicago.

867
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get through this to COVID nineteen and this

868
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: George Floyd thing. I just want you to recognize what's

869
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: going on. I just want you to recognize. That's all

870
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I want you to listen. I want you to learn

871
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: from your African American and people of color, and I

872
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: want you to get in the game. If you're gonna

873
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: get in the game, get in the game. But you

874
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: gotta be in it with both feet. You can't put

875
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: one foot in the boat and one foot out. That

876
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: was why it was so important to have you on

877
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: our show this morning. Our listeners needed to hear you

878
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: say that. They did. Yeah, Rogers man, thank you, appreciate you.

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00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: Have a great day, Yes, sir, it'd be great. Do

880
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: your best. All right, let's take a break. We'll be

881
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: back in just a second. Friend Nani Nanie post alone

882
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: nine oh four. It's one h three five Kiss FM,

883
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Chicago's number one hit music station. Friend Nangie, good morning,

884
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: doing the best weekend today, talking about the events of

885
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: the weekend in Chicago, trying to get you some information.

886
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to a bunch of phone calls. Next,

887
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: we'll do some entertainment. We'll do a couple of other

888
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: little things here to make you smile. But today it's

889
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: not really a day for the smiling and the laughing

890
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: and and being goofy. We want to hear from you.

891
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: I think the best thing that we can do is

892
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: listen to our audience, to the people in our community

893
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: and hear what you guys are feeling and saying from

894
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: everything that's happened in the past three or four days

895
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: in Chicago. So we'll come back in a couple of minutes.

896
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Speaker 1: We'll take some more phone calls. Thanks for being with us.

897
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: Is Fred Nagio one O three five Angie Live from

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Speaker 1: the Winterest Studios WKSCFM Chicago and I Heart Radio Station.

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Speaker 1: Here's Fred and Angie. Good morning, everybody, idiots, Monday, June first,

900
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Fred Nangi are here at nine o nine. Hello Angie Taylor,

901
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: good morning, Hello Rufio, Paulina, Kayla, and everybody's here and

902
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: a little bit different show this morning today. How can

903
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: we not after the events of the weekend in Chicago

904
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Speaker 1: and around the country, peaceful protests following the death of

905
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Speaker 1: George Floyd, and then of course there was looting, violence

906
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: and riots and closures and all kinds of different things,

907
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Speaker 1: And we're dealing with that this morning, and we're talking

908
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: to people about it because I feel like that's the

909
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: most important thing that we can do right now, is

910
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: have a dialogue. And um, someone said on Twitter, so well,

911
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: because I've been saying all morning, Look, this isn't going

912
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: to be the most polished a couple of hours of

913
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: radio that you've ever heard, and some of it's going

914
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: to be raw, and much of it's going to be

915
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: just as people are. The things that people are feeling

916
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: and talking, you know, people who are calling us this morning,

917
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: and even us as professional speakers and supposedly, UM, don't

918
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: always know the right thing to say and don't always

919
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: say it right. But but we're here with benign intent,

920
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: We're here with ernest we're here in support of the

921
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: peaceful protests and that's going on, and to denounce the

922
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Speaker 1: violence and the destruction that's happening in our city. And

923
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Speaker 1: many people are But UM, where's this tweet? And said UM,

924
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I hope that those listening give grace to all parties

925
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: who call in. Not everyone will be able to articulate

926
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Speaker 1: how they feel without letting emotion take over. And I

927
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: think that's true. UM. So I want people to keep

928
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Speaker 1: that in mind as we take phone calls this morning.

929
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Not that you should agree with or support anything that

930
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: someone says that you don't like or don't agree with,

931
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: but um, at the same time, I know that you know,

932
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: well intentioned people as as they talk about things that

933
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Speaker 1: that are emotional and raw for them, Uh, it can

934
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Speaker 1: be a difficult thing. Yeah, that's there's a lot of emotion,

935
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Speaker 1: and there should be a lot of emotion, you know,

936
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Speaker 1: But the conversations need to happen and we need to

937
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: be here to listen. And we have this you know,

938
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Speaker 1: we have this platform here. You know, we have this

939
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: opportunity and we joke about it, UM and our thirteen

940
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: listeners and we are thirteen strong, but we have this

941
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: opportunity to have a discussion. Uh, And you know, as

942
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: I've been saying over and over again to everyone I

943
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: talk to and on Twitter and and even this morning,

944
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, I have empathy. We all have empathy. But

945
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: I'll speak for myself. You know I have empathy. I'm

946
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: sad um but I can't directly relate to what's happening

947
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Speaker 1: to people of color in our country, in Chicagoland or anywhere,

948
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Speaker 1: because it's not happening to me. And so I can

949
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: I can offer the utmost support and and say that

950
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever that it, whatever it takes, and try

951
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: and continue to live my life in a way that

952
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: that promotes um, you know, positivity and inclusiveness. But but

953
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Speaker 1: I cannot tell you that I can relate. I cannot

954
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: tell you that my pain is the same as yours

955
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Speaker 1: or as much. And all I can do, and I've

956
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: been asking for guidance in this is be someone who's

957
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Speaker 1: willing to listen. I'm a guy of privilege, I know,

958
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Speaker 1: I know, but it doesn't mean that I don't care,

959
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that I don't want to listen

960
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: and be part of positive change. Right and you're an

961
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: ally as well. I mean you are here to listen,

962
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: but we also want everybody to know that we support

963
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: you all, and you know, the black community needs to

964
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: be supported. They need to be heard, and that's what

965
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: we're here for. And the killing needs to stop. And

966
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: we just need to educate ourselves on how we can

967
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Speaker 1: be the best allies and be peaceful and bring some

968
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: change because we need change. Yeah. Yeah. We had Leon

969
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers on from alec I just a second ago, and

970
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: he's so eloquently he said, he made a lot of

971
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: great points, including the division between those who are are

972
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Speaker 1: protesting peacefully protesting and the death of George Floyd and

973
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: supporting those who want justice for George Floyd and are

974
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: denouncing the behavior of certain police officers and then the

975
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: people who are exploiting George Floyd. And there is a difference,

976
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: and it is so important I believe that we make

977
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Speaker 1: that distinction because because it's not one and the same,

978
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: it's and if I hear one more time, well, those

979
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: those people who are robbing targets and those people it's

980
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: and somehow associating that with the message, that's not the message,

981
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: and that's not in my heart, in my mind, that

982
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: is not with the vast majority of people out here

983
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: taking a stand in our city. That's not what they want,

984
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: that's not what they're saying, it's not what they're doing.

985
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right. I could not have said that better.

986
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, we're here. We're here for the people that

987
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: want the change, and we're here to be open and listen.

988
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: And yes we do denounce those people that are coming

989
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: in from other states are rooting our city, destroying our city.

990
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it needs to be loud. Yes we

991
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: need to have change. But I know those are not

992
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: the sequins, you know. I know. And the police officer

993
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: we had on earlier this morning confirmed that as well,

994
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: saying that a lot of this are people that are

995
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: just opportunists taking advantage from other places, coming into our

996
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: beautiful city and destroying it. That's hard. Yeah, So I

997
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: want to hear how people are around the city are feeling. Um,

998
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, what you're doing, what you're what's sort of

999
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: happening in your mind, in your heart? Eight five five

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Speaker 1: nine one h three five. And again we're not fat

1001
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: checking these calls, we're screening them, but um, you know

1002
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Speaker 1: this is these are the emotions as they come to us.

1003
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Speaker 1: We mayrm and then I agree with all of them

1004
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: or all of the stances. But we're listening, and um,

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00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: and understand that you know that there are I think

1006
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: most of us are united in this, but surprisingly, you know, again,

1007
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Speaker 1: this is one of those areas where I just can't relate.

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Speaker 1: But here in my mind I think, well, I don't

1009
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I this is awful, what is happen? And I immediately

1010
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: want to take a stand, And so does everyone I know,

1011
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: so so and most people are good, right, well, um, no,

1012
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean most people, yes, But then there are these

1013
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: other folks out there who they don't get it. And

1014
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: I think even well intentioned people sometimes don't know how

1015
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: to say the right thing or think that they're doing

1016
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: the right thing, but then aren't actually taking actions. So

1017
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Speaker 1: let's get to some calls. And there've been people waiting

1018
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: over forty five minutes to get on with us, So

1019
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: we'll get to those next eight, five, five, five, nine, one,

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Speaker 1: one h three five. It's Fred Nangie on one h

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Speaker 1: three five Black Eyed Peas one h three five Kiss FM,

1022
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Speaker 1: Chicago's number one hit music station, Fred Nangie, Good morning,

1023
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: Glad you're here. Angie's here, Klein, Paulina Rufio obviously still

1024
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, sort of decompressing from over the weekend and

1025
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Speaker 1: what continues to be a tumultuous, uncertain time in Chicago

1026
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: and around the country, with the peaceful protests following the

1027
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Speaker 1: death of George Floyd and then of course devolving into

1028
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Speaker 1: looting and violence and riots and all of these things.

1029
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Speaker 1: And I know they're a lot of scared earned people,

1030
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Speaker 1: as we should be. And I know that many of us, um,

1031
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: many of us feel helpless. Many of us wonder what

1032
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: can we do? You know what? What? And you know what. Look,

1033
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: there are probably people listening now screaming, well, where have

1034
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: you been? Uh? You know what? Do you mean? What

1035
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: can you do? Now? Well? Guess what if if if

1036
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: if people are asking that question and we can give

1037
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Speaker 1: them answers, then maybe this is the beginning, you know.

1038
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Speaker 1: I that's all I can hope. But we want to

1039
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Speaker 1: have an open forum because ultimately, yeah, we're here to

1040
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: make you laugh, and we'll get back to that, and

1041
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: we're here to make you smile. And typically we're a

1042
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: distraction from um, you know, major news stories and politics

1043
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: and things, and we'll mention them and we'll get into them,

1044
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: but we don't don't normally dedicate a whole show to

1045
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: talking about one thing, but ultimately we're here to serve

1046
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Speaker 1: the people. And I don't mean to you know, I

1047
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Speaker 1: don't mean to sound cheesy, but that's that's the purpose

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Speaker 1: of the radio station and these public airwaves, and that's

1049
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Speaker 1: what we're here to do. And and we were proud

1050
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Speaker 1: and fortunate and grateful to have built this audience, this

1051
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Speaker 1: multicultural audience of a lot of different people, genders, ethnicities, UM,

1052
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Speaker 1: sexual orientation. We have so many different people who listen

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Speaker 1: to us, and we have an opportunity when it comes

1054
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: to times like this too, to use the platform to

1055
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: hear all these different voices, UM. And so we want

1056
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: to hear from from everybody. And this is raw, and

1057
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: this is unedited and unscreened and uncut. So UM, you know,

1058
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And understand that as we

1059
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: take as we go through these calls. Justin, Hey, justin,

1060
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: thank you for holding for so long. We appreciate you. Hi,

1061
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: good morning, how are you. I know you've been on

1062
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: hold for a very long time, and I know it

1063
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: was important for you to get on, So share with us.

1064
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: What do you want to say? I know I'm a

1065
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: man of teller UM and I live in the downtown

1066
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: area and what I unfolding outside of my door, Um,

1067
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: the past few nights with people looting and breaking, brending,

1068
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: the break of the windows to the building and come

1069
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: in and still the computers, um, you know, Dunkin Donuts

1070
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: and and and just everything else. It was very I'm

1071
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: just very upset that um, the message that we're trying

1072
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: to saying can't be done peacefully and in a way

1073
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: that that UM doesn't destruct and hurt up more. Because

1074
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: when you when we do things like burn down building

1075
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: and the store, the people that've been out of jobs

1076
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: for two months now have to wait even longer. So fadum.

1077
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: And it's just it's sad to see that. And I

1078
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: wanted to and I mean, look, as a man of color,

1079
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: I was listening to the way how Rocks is earlier

1080
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: and when he said about going somewhere, you're at somewhere

1081
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: with you know a white person or something, you do

1082
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: get treated you know better, UM, And I can say,

1083
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, personally, go to the Paul University and all that,

1084
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: and I walk in by myself. I've been questioned several

1085
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 1: times do you go here or do you do this?

1086
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: And just as a black person or even walking in

1087
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: my own apartment building as a black person, sometimes you

1088
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: just feel you just had enough and it has to

1089
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: it just has to stop. And I mean and and

1090
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: like you said, not everyone's sad adsum, but they're definitely

1091
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: need to be some deep conversations that go on in

1092
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: terms of the police, but just in terms of being

1093
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: black in general. And I understand people's frustration. M but

1094
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: but you know, going in department stores being followed, but

1095
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: burning them down, it's not the way it happen. And Jesse,

1096
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: you know what's amazing. And I got to find the video.

1097
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: I've sent a bunch of stuff Paulatter to put up

1098
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: on the website at Frenantie dot com. I know we

1099
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: all have, but I saw a clip last night of

1100
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: a number of black protesters, peaceful protesters, actually blocking the

1101
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: entrance to a target from other people of all ethnicities

1102
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: trying to loot the place. I mean, they were aggressively

1103
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: defending the front of the target, saying no, you can't

1104
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: do this, like this is taking away from what we're

1105
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. We have to keep our eye on the ball,

1106
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: the message. It's about racism and George Floyd, I mean,

1107
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: let's keep the focus there instead of the rioting in

1108
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: the loop. And let's and let's be honest. People are weak,

1109
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: people are fragile, people are looking for ways to, uh,

1110
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: to not have to deal with the hard issue here,

1111
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,720
Speaker 1: which is that racism is still prevalent in our country

1112
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: in a major way. And people, I think, um, I

1113
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: hate to say white people, but I think many white

1114
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: people are people who who are not of color are

1115
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: not willing to look in the mirror and acknowledge that

1116
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: their life is different in many ways. And we may

1117
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: have come a long way, but we haven't come far enough,

1118
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: and we have to face the fact that I believe

1119
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: that and I've said this a thousand times at nauseam

1120
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: this morning, I believe that this message is predominantly a

1121
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: message of of of of the evolution that needs to

1122
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: take place. And it is not to be Um, the

1123
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: violence and the burning and the looting. It can't attract

1124
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: from that. It is, but it just can't. Yeah, Oh absolutely,

1125
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's it definitely is very sad to see.

1126
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: And I mean, and now I was, you know, trying

1127
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: to go to the store, but I'm essentially trapped where

1128
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: I am. I mean, you can't go anywhere or do anything, um,

1129
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: candle to the store, can't you know, restaurants or clothes

1130
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Um, but you know, as far

1131
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: as the whole racis thing goes, I mean, it definitely

1132
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: has to start with us as well. Yeah, I believe

1133
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: that we you know, as black people, we also need

1134
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: to help ourselves see an opportunity by building each other

1135
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: up instead of playing ourselves down too, instead of plane

1136
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: to banks on one particularly you know, right, we all

1137
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: have to do it together. Yea. And the only way

1138
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: things are we all do. It's not a white versus

1139
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: black as a lot of people have been saying, it's

1140
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: it's everyone versus racism, right, It's it's we all have

1141
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: to have the message, and we all have to have

1142
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: conversations and we all have to listen. Justin we gotta

1143
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: move on. Please be safe, Thanks for sharing, Thanks for holding.

1144
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: I have a good morning as well. Thank you. I'm

1145
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm coming off preachy. I didn't mean to come off preaching.

1146
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: That was what that was my That was my one

1147
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: goal this morning was I wasn't going to be preachy,

1148
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: But then here I am. Um, PJ, good morning, welcome

1149
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 1: to the show. How are you, How are you thanks

1150
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: for holy I know you held for a long time,

1151
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: but what did you want to say? You know, Um,

1152
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm just so full of emotion and while

1153
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 1: being on hold, I've been listening to other people and

1154
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: it's to with so many thoughts and other people that

1155
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: are just talking about the looting and the storm being

1156
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: broken into human they're more I always feel like people

1157
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: are more upset about their target being closed, or their

1158
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: wombart being closed, or them not leaving their house, or

1159
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: we need to stop and think of human life. This

1160
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: is what it comes down to, like when I saw

1161
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: that life leave that body? Oh no, yes, okay, video, yeah,

1162
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: the video of your charge. I mean, how will we

1163
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: ever get that image burned out of our brains? And

1164
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: maybe and we probably shouldn't. We should we should never

1165
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: forget that and keep that image in our and be

1166
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: angry about it and make sure it doesn't happen again.

1167
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: And it's just a lot. She held for like an hour.

1168
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Please go back, We'll get you back on Jessica. Welcome

1169
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: to friend Nangie. How are you? Good morning? Good morning?

1170
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: Hi Jessica. What do you want to say? You know?

1171
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: I just you know how happy heart? How to teach

1172
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: our children. No, try being through the subside of Chicago. Yesterday,

1173
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: my eight year old asking, what's coin? Yeah, how do

1174
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: I explain it to him? How do I explain some him?

1175
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: But his black friends are treated difference. My friend's fathers

1176
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: are treated his black friends brothers are treated different. Why

1177
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: I can't understand it? Yeah, it's it's that's a whole other.

1178
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many layers here. And you know,

1179
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: when you're a parent and it is you know, my

1180
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: child is looking around terrified. She knows why it's happening. Um,

1181
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, But I guess I would just say, you know,

1182
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: you just keep talking to your son about it. And

1183
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and I don't have the answer

1184
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: that kids, but I would I would imagine as painful

1185
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: as this is. And I'm asking because I don't know, Jessica,

1186
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: is it an opportunity to have that dialogue? Is this

1187
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: is something like this from this rise? Is something hopefully positive? Right?

1188
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: We care keep you. Yeah, you got to share the good,

1189
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, and this is very ugly, but

1190
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: it's they need. Yeah, it's a teachable time with our children. Yeah, Jessica,

1191
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: thanks for calling. Thanks for Sherry. I know it's hard

1192
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: than take care of a good morning. Um, Lisa's what's nothing? Well,

1193
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: PJ was there and then she dropped again. So oh

1194
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: so here's Lisa. We gotta get PJA verising phone man.

1195
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Lisa, Hi, Lisa, welcome to the show.

1196
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding all right, thank you, thank you you too.

1197
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: You know what I've been listening to to you guys

1198
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: for like twenty years. You're my on my way home

1199
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: from work. That considering we've been on for ten But look,

1200
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm driving home and I'm like sixty one, so I

1201
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: can't do it in multitask and then don't even try. Yeah,

1202
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to say, you know, when the

1203
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 1: Carvin nineteen broke down and and ever came home, even

1204
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: the movie stars, I was like, well, good, this is

1205
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: good time to raise your children, to be with your children,

1206
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: to understand and teach them. And like the girl said,

1207
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: uh in front of me about it's scary, but this

1208
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: is the time tell the truth. I remember a time.

1209
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,479
Speaker 1: You know, you don't talk about that, don't say that. No,

1210
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: let's these children know what is going on and this time,

1211
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: in this age and what we're going through and all

1212
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: these examples. You know, I fear that it might be

1213
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: even more killings. But this is the time for parents

1214
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: and guarranting the first step in the children. You're home

1215
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: with my single bike. Like I said, I want to

1216
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: go back to the movie stars who nanny's and race

1217
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: their children. Well, I'm where I came from. It was

1218
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: the neighborhood that we're killed. And you know, if my

1219
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: neighbors and my neighbors, the mother, my neighbors, my friends,

1220
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: my mother's friends saw me doing something bad, I'm gonna

1221
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: get spanked by her, and you know, not sa discipline,

1222
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, say, and I feel to these young kids

1223
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: or these parents, the younger parents, these parents that are

1224
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: at home with their children, and we have wholesome less

1225
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: whole things, get back better and settember. Uh talk to

1226
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: you like you said, we're having conversation over the radio,

1227
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: and I think, Uh, it's the best thing you ought

1228
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: to be doing. Guys, I appreciate you, like I say,

1229
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: I've been a listener for twenty years. But for the

1230
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: youngest parenting business is time even to talk to your children,

1231
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: let them know what's going make them understand that the

1232
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: color of your skin does not make a difference of

1233
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 1: who you are in your head, you know. And yeah,

1234
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: well Lisa, thank you for that, and thank you for

1235
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: holding and thanks for listening. For sure. We appreciate you

1236
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: all right, thank you, joy talking to you all. Thank you. Yeah,

1237
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: thank you, Oh Lisa, thank you. We love you. Have

1238
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: a good day. Twenty years that's dedication. Um, PJ. Pj's back. Hi, PJ.

1239
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm back and I'm not going to touch my phone

1240
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: just time. Thank you. Better, Hey, say what you want

1241
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: to say. P hurry up before it hangs up again.

1242
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: You know. I just want to say, like, you can

1243
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: build your Target again. Gucci will have its stores again,

1244
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: Louis Vtan will be back in business again, your aunts

1245
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: and your uncle's paper shop. I know I feel bad

1246
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: for small businesses and people of minority and color that

1247
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: have businesses. But I've lost people post to me for

1248
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: different reasons, obviously, and I sit here years from that loss.

1249
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: And if I could have saved up and put pieces

1250
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: of their body together and just hug them one day,

1251
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: I would. George Floyd's mom cannot do that. She can't

1252
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: save up for twenty years and bring him back. And

1253
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't care take everything from Target, you want to

1254
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: come into my house and take everything and just spare

1255
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: me my life and my loved ones. That's fine, Ludo,

1256
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: you want this, and I don't. Violence is not the answer.

1257
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: But at some point, and unfortunately with many people, you

1258
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: have to affect their pockets to get an answer. When

1259
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: we have become so selfish that the only way to

1260
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Speaker 1: get attention is to reach into someone's pockets, that's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: I hate saying it, and I don't condone this at all.

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Speaker 1: If what I'm saying, but I'm saying, you can't bring

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Speaker 1: a life back. If that was your son, your brother,

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Speaker 1: your husband, you can't bring them back. You can bring

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Speaker 1: the stores back. A life is very fragile. Let's go

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Speaker 1: back to that. You know, like that man's life will

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01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: never come back. Your stores will open one day, six

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Speaker 1: months from now. And my other point is to the

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Speaker 1: police officer that called, and I know, Angie, you held

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Speaker 1: your breath on this. I think I tried. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, in a very respectful way, I do

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Speaker 1: believe that not all officers are bad, obviously, and I'm

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: sorry that he feels like all officers are being treated

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: badly and that he's afraid to go out. But guess what,

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01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: that's your job. That's not the color of your skin.

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: All black people sometimes are looked at as bad people

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: that you can change your job, they can't change their

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: skin color. So if you're afraid that your job is

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: going to make people look at you're differently, I'm sorry

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01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: for get a different job. These you know, like this

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: black kid, he can't do anything about the color of

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Speaker 1: his skin, and that's happening to him from the moment

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: he was born. So we just like just try a

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: little bit to have compassion. Just think about your own

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01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: family members. You don't want to lose them to something

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01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: so dumb. So I don't know, I just it's just

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: so many emotions. But that's all I can say. And

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Speaker 1: I'm also Indian, and I just want to make a

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: point to what Leon Rogers was saying is we do

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: have to make everyone aware, you know, of all racists,

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01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: not just white people. You know, we all make jokes.

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: I know people have any different cultures. I have funds

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01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: that are of all different races and colors and our

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: family members, Joe, but you know, we have to change that.

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01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: Just guess what the civil rights movement was by Martin

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: Luther King, who was a black man. That was all

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Speaker 1: done by people of color. And we as individuals sitting

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01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: in this country now that our immigrants have all of

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01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: our rights, most of our rights, some of our rights

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: because of that movement. So jowing forces and be thankful

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01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: because your kids will have more rights because of this. PJA,

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: thank you so much for all of that. I know

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: it's emotional, and I know I know it's raw, and

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01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: we were grateful that you called. And thanks for thanks

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01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: for getting back with us after losing connection. Have a

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: great deal. Okay, thanks, Okay, Hey, Rufe, you'll pick up

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01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: on that last line. That's that's our that's our boy.

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Steve. Uh, Lieutenant Steve, good morning, Good morning, Lieutenant Steve.

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01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: Now hold on. Lieutenant Steve is our buddy from the

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: ham And Police Department. Now he has he has knighted

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01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: me and made me a fellow lieutenant of the Hammond

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01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: Police Department. I haven't gotten my badge yet, though we're

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: working on it. Yeah, I'm sure. But you you know,

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01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: I've gotten to know you over the past few weeks

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: and this is obviously a very sensitive topic, especially I

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01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: would imagine for a law enforcement official, because unfortunately, this

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01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: particular example is of a very very bad law enforcement official,

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Speaker 1: and I can't help but think that it and his

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Speaker 1: actions affect all of you, including those who I believe

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Speaker 1: are good like you. No, that is, you couldn't be.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't be more of an accurate statement. You know,

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: our job is to protect people. And you know we

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: watched in you know, police officers cross the country watch

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: that video too, you know, an absolute horror, you know,

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 1: screaming at the screen, get off of the neck. You

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01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: know it's we we agree, and that's the thing you

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01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: had a collar earlier, talk about um. You know that

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: that we need to talk with each other. We need

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01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: to communicate more. And that's why you know, we really,

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01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, a law enforcement really does need to do

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01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: a better job of reaching out and talking with people

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01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: as well and letting people know that we we we

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Speaker 1: we work on relations all the time. We train incessantly

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Speaker 1: on these topics, and we've talked and we when when

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Speaker 1: law enforcement you know, sees that kind of video and

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: we see uh, the you know, outside of the racial

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: undertones that are there. Okay, we know we know that

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Speaker 1: their their racial device is there. UM, and we those

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: are the things we need to work on, and we

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: also need to work on the law enforcement side beside those.

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: We need to we need to say, hey, we have

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01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: we have bad examples. Okay, your gentleman was talking earlier

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01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: the difference between protesters and people who are causing the

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: civil unrest and looting, and that's the difference that we

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01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: have to realize too. Is is that we want everybody

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: to realize, is that the majority of the police officers

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: are the same. That's the kind of the difference. You know,

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: You've got police officers that are great, which is most

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01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: of them, and then you've got the police officers who

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: don't follow tactics and don't follow policies and and and

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01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 1: we're just as upset about, you know, the situation as anybody.

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 1: It's just that, um, you know, it's a fine it's

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: a fine line. We also have to protect people. And yeah,

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01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, what are your last callers was talking about

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: teachable moments, and this is just something we use all

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01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: of these things as teachable moments and law enforcement as well,

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01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: and just you know, we keep trying to build on this,

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01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: but those communications are vital. Yeah, things like this obviously

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: make it more difficult. Lieutenant Steve Ham and police Department.

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01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: This might be a stupid question, and just pardon mine.

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01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: I have a say, but I think a lot of

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: people you know that they hear well. Most cops are

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: good and they're just some of these bad apples. Is

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01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: there anything in your department or in larger departments, is

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01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: there any active pursuit of these quote unquote bad apples?

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01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a press? I don't know. Maybe

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 1: you can't just obviously you can't just look at somebody

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01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: and say, well they're racist or whatever. But is there

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: is there a way to see a pattern coming so

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Speaker 1: that we can begin to eliminate or at least attempts

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Speaker 1: to eliminate what's going on. Absolutely, I can't tell you.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for every police department. I can speak

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Speaker 1: for what we do, and uh, we personally have Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, we have body cameras, right, and then

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: every use support that we do, so we monitor, We

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: monitor body cameras, uh, and then whatever you support that

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01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: is used has to be recorded and documented. Then all

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01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: of those are all reviewed. Anytime a weapon is used,

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: any time of taser is used, anything like that, all

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: those things are reviewed. The video is reviewed. Um if

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: there are any policy violations anything at all, those are

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01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: all chalked up and we have early warning systems in

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: place so that if an officer, um, you know, it's

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01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: flagged for doing something, that those actions are watched and

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01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: then we are we follow up on that so we

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: don't let those things occur. We retrain our officers. If

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01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: we see a policy violation, that officer gets called in

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01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: to the office and there is a conversation and retraining

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: that happens all the time. And that's on our police department.

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01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: If ever, if every police department you know, does that

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: or can do that, that would drastically help some of

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: the things that that that that we've been seeing. We've

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01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure everybody everybody has seen the videos

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01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: of some of the police officers during some of the

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01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: marches and things like, you know, jumping in with a

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01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: crowd and marching with a crowd and showing solidarity. And

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: there's been some beautiful videos and beautiful moments like that,

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: officers taking a knee, things that are showing solidarity between

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01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: the police officers in the black community. Are you do

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: you feel or do do you feel like that needs

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: to continue? I feel like you all should be maybe

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01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: in the community, talking with the community. So the fear

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: of police becomes a dialogue between the police department and

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: these communities of color. And not just not just when

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01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 1: you're adjudicating or not just when you're you're there for

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: a call. You know, you're there now, you're there on

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01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: your own. You're there because you want to get to

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: know people, not just because you're rolling up with the

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01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: sirens on. Throw somebody in jail, correct right now? Absolutely,

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01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: we those we have to we have to be better

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01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: at that. Um. You know, we we do our like

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: we had. We had a protest in front of our

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Speaker 1: police department on Saturday, and the first like the gentleman

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Speaker 1: said earlier, the first two hours it was a peaceful protest.

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01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: We we we realize that First Amendment rights and peaceful protests,

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: UM can and do happen and um And once the

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Speaker 1: once the peaceful resolution, you know, once once that those

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Speaker 1: voices are heard, then they usually leave and move on

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: and those are great, um. And then you know people

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: that are trying to take you know, that want to

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01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: take advantage of the system at that point, like the

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: gentleman said earlier, you know are sometimes left, and that's

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: it causes a big distinction because the people that are

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: that are blocking uh, you know, the protesters that are

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: blocking an expressway or are looting or something like that.

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes unfortunately they get confused with a legal protest

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01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: right and it's to enforced the law. At some point,

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: we can't let complete antargrate go and so we have

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: to keep everyone safe. You know, we have to keep people.

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Speaker 1: We don't want people to go on the expressway and

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: get hit by cars, and we don't want people to

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: break into businesses where they can get hurt and the

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: businesses that could be damaged and looted. So it's a

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: really tough position to be and to try and to

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: have a voice to say, hey, we're here with you,

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01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: we're we're listening to you, and at the same time

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: enforce the law and we try, you know about the

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: Our mayor was out there talking with the groups and

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01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 1: we did a good job on Saturday. But in math numbers,

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to have those conversations. We need to

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: do them when when there's not right a situation you're

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: going on, we need to do exactly exactly so that

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: the fear between you know, the community, but the fear

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: of the police turns into something else, a dialogue, you know,

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: the Tennessee If it's our buddy from the hem And

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Speaker 1: Police Department, we appreciate your hospitality and it's great talking

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01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 1: with you, and thanks for sharing all of this from

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01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: the perspective of a respected law enforcement officer. We appreciate

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: him absolutely. Thank you. Yeah, take care, I have a

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: good one. Let's take a break where like I said,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of I don't know, I'm completely out of

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: format today, so so we'll take a break. We'll come

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: back in just a second. If you're holding We'll try

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: and get to the calls. So many calls, so many

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: people want to talk, and we just we're trying to

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01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: get to everybody and let everybody have their time, but

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01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: there's not going to be time for everyone today. We

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: do have some good news stories. Let's do some good

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: news in a minute, shall we? Yeah, something happy for

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: a moment on Fred and Nangie said, yeah, it feels

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01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: good with Brett and Angie on one or three five

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01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: kiss I believe it or not, there are some good

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01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: things happening in the world, some good news, positive stories,

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: and we'd love to share him with you right now.

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: We do it five times a day on Kiss what

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Speaker 1: you find a A community has stepped into help literally

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Speaker 1: after Sean dromgoul, a black man, posted on the next

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Speaker 1: door app that he was scared to walk outside because

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Speaker 1: he was afraid he wouldn't make it home alive at

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Speaker 1: his palast. He explains that his family has lived in

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Speaker 1: the same Nashville neighborhood for fifty four years, but recent

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Speaker 1: events have left him shaken. The fear of not returning

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Speaker 1: home to my family alive kept me on my front porch,

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Speaker 1: he writes, and his neighbors heard him. Around fifty community

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01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: members from his area of Nashville came together to go

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: out with Sean, he said. My neighbors said, we'll walk

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: with you, one after one. The event was a success. Now,

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: he says, him and his neighbors are planning to do

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Speaker 1: another community walk this week. I was scared to walk alone.

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Speaker 1: And now look who is behind me, Look who has

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: my back? Wow? I love that story. Yeah yeah, So

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: the video that goes along with us has been all

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01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: over the place this weekend and everyone has to watch it.

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01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Pauline has had a chance to

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01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 1: get it up yet at fred Angie dot com because

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: we've all been busy doing taking phone calls and all

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: that stuff this morning. But a white Michigan sheriff, along

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01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: with several of his officers, ditched all their ride gear

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01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 1: to march alongside black protesters in Flint Township. Over the weekends,

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01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: protesters gathered to march for George Floyd, the unarmed black

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Speaker 1: man who died last Monday in police custody in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 1: The caitlin, how do you say it? Is it? Genesee? Yeah,

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01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: Genesee County Sheriff Chris Swanson moved in to join them.

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 1: He says, I want to make this a parade, not

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01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: a protest, he announced, as he explained to the crowd

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Speaker 1: that he and his officers did not have any interest

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: in fighting them. I took the helmet off, laid the

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Speaker 1: batons down, He said. The cops love you. That cop

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: over there, he hugs people. So you tell us what

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Speaker 1: you need to do. The crowd began cheering, of course,

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01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: and slow the chant grew louder and louder. Walk with us,

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01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Walk with us. And he wasn't the only law enforcement

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01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: officer to try a tactic. It also happened in Camden County.

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: That does in New Jersey, the chief there took off

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01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,879
Speaker 1: his all of his gear and walk with the protesters

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01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: as well. Also in Miami it happened police officers kneeling

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: with the protesters. So there are a lot of examples

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01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: of law enforcement in various parts of the country who

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: stand alongside the peaceful protesters and great examples to watch.

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01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: And you can see him up at Fred Angie dot com.

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01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: We'll take some more phone calls in a minute. It's

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01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: you updated on everything happening in Chicago Land with the protests.

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01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: Lots of closures and things to be aware of as well.

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: That's a few minutes away as well. On one h

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: three five, Good morning, glad you're here. Garry Styles ten

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Speaker 1: O two one three five Kiss FM, Chicago number one

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: hit music station, Fred Nangie, good morning, Thanks for having

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01:18:54,320 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: us on. It's really been an enlightening, thought provoking first

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: couple of hours of our show today, not because of

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: anything we said, but because of all of your contributions

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: and if you miss any of it. We had Leon

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: Rodgers on from w GC. I will have him back

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01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: on after eleven o'clock this morning and then a lot

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01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: of phone calls and and you know, it's this is

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: raw for so many people talking about what's going on

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01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: in Chicago and across the country, and it's not easy.

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's brave and courageous of people to

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01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: call up and share what they're thinking off the top

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01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: of their minds. They're not radio personalities, they don't talk

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01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: for a living, and they're doing the best they can.

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: And you can go back and listen to it. We'll

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: have it up a little bit later on on the

1533
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or on your smart speaker, and if you

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01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: miss the first couple of hours, I would encourage you

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01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: to listen, because you know, a lot of people are

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01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: wondering what to think and how to act and what

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: to do. And I think you'll find that that you know,

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01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: there are people who are just like you, who are

1539
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: struggling with the same things and sad about the same things,

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: and want the same kind of change. And hopefully all

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01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: of those people will put their money where their mouths

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: are and we will too, and you will too. And

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01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I feel like we do this

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: all the time. We have to talk all the time.

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: You know, now's the time for change. Now it's gonna happen,

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01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: well hopefully now it's gonna happen. And how many times

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 1: can I say that? How many times can we say

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: that and hope that it's true? Yeah, we just have

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01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: to make sure that we follow through on all of

1550
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: those things. Um yeah, yeah. Lots of phone calls. Ariel,

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01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: welcome to fred Nazi. Thanks for holding on for so long.

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01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: How are you? How are you there? Was Ario? Yes?

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: Ao a oh okay, Ariel, okay, good, good morning. What

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01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: did you want to say? Welcome to the show. Thank you. Um.

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, um, for those people

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: who you know, not really quite understand what's going on. UM,

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01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of you know, cops coming

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: online and you know, staying saying their piece. And I

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: just think that, you know, I know that there are

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01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: good cops, you know, and as well as you know

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: there are you know, some cops. You know, I'm not

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01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. I can do any jobs. How

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01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: we think one of the to add the insult the

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: injury is that when those bad confidence cop that does

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01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: do wrong things they don't get penalized. That what really

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01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,759
Speaker 1: driving the insanity. It's like, okay, hey, this is what happens. Okay,

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: so now let's go, let's follow soon with the protocols. Hey,

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01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: what's the law? Say? It just has to okay, you know,

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01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: do the rest of CIS and you kill somebody or

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01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: something like that, and then we send over and over

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 1: again when you know, cop kill or you know, you know,

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: does you know? Um just react not normally forwards black.

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01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, what's the justice? No justice? And

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01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: I think we're driving does um the ford? Yeah? I

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: think we're all asking that same question. I think we're

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: all wondering. I mean, look, I was talking to a

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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: bunch of friends over the weekend. Uh, how on earth

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01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 1: is that just third degree murder? And and and then

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,839
Speaker 1: and I'm not a lawyer, and I don't understand the strategy.

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. But and then how are the other officers?

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01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,520
Speaker 1: How have they not been charging exactly? I don't understand.

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01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: Why did it take so long for them to just

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01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: charge one or to arrest to one? Why not the

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01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: other three? Because they were complicit they were standing there watching.

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01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, and the third way murder saying what a joke?

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you know, But and again I'm not

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: a lawyer. I'm not a prosecutor. I don't know what

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01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: their strategy is or I don't know, but to me,

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01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: it makes no sense, no sense, and there should have

1590
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: been swifter action, and there needs to be swifter action

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01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: moving forward. And I'm with you. I understand what you're

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01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: saying correctly and real, real quick um. And the reason

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: why I'm famous because I'm a teacher and you know,

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: I deal with students and everything and most you know,

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01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: we have good teachers and we have to they not

1596
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, they don't do so will you know they

1597
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: get on a love What's that happens to these kids?

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: Those teachers They disappoints, they get just they you know,

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 1: they go to jail, they you know, whatever happens. So

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01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, even if you do have this, you know, uh,

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01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: this title or this type of job is don't do

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: something wrong. The lead the league system should be design

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01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: and just to give an example, thank you so much.

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01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: I have a great day. Thanks for sharing. Glad you

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01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: called Dana. Welcome to our show, Fred Nangie, how are you, Dana?

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01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: Hi there? How are you? I think I don't even

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01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: know where to start because everything your your callers have

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01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: said is heart wrenching and thought provoking. And um, I

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01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: come from a different perspective. Um, my nephew was shot

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01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: and killed by a police officer in Alabama, Baldwin County, Alabama.

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: He was in a single car accident. He um was

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01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: bleeding and unconscious. He had no weapons, no drugs, no alcohol,

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: no criminal history, no crime committed. Fifteen cops showed up

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 1: to a single car accident and one cop shot him

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 1: with an assault rifle within six feet away from him.

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01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: When he finally woke up to everybody yelling, he had

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01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: to walk through marshland bleeding and still to this day.

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01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: It happened on May twelfth, two seventeen, and it was

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend. And Jonathan's dad is an X. His

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01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: name was Jonathan Victor. His dad is an XNPD shot

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: and fire arms instructor. So I come from I have

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01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: a different perspect that law enforcement is needed for looting.

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01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: The destruction is just heartbreaking. It's ripping communities apart. People

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: have businesses that they have invested their you know, life

1625
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: savings in. It's you know, it is so rampant. And

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01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: the problem why these officers are never held accountable is

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: because of something that is actually being brought up in

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01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court just last month in May, and it's

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01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: called qualified immunity. They have absolute shields if they are

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01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: in fear for their life, or they believe that they

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01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: are in fear, they believe that there's something that's going

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01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: to cause fear. So out of fifteen cups that were

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: there for Jonathan's car accidents, one of them shot him

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01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: six times with an assault rifle. I watched. They denied

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01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: all of our foyer requests. It is a constant battle

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:47,839
Speaker 1: to find representation to because of this qualified immunity. Everyone

1637
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: needs to learn about qualified immunity, all right. It's an

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01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: absolute shield to to kill anybody for any reason, and

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01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: it's so unfortunate. So the laws need to be changed.

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01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 1: Police policy needs to be reformed. Training needs to happen

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01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: with your lieutenant said, there's so many and I never

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01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: call and I never get involved, and I haven't. You know,

1643
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: there's so many mothers that we have walked with, you know,

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01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: on Washington, DC, every color, Native Americans, you know, Blacks, right, Hispanics, Asians.

1645
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: There's so many of us that are being shot down

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01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 1: and there we're all protected. The cops are protected. There's

1647
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: good cops and there's bad cops. There's good teachers and

1648
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: there's bad teachers. We can't hold everybody, all right, what's

1649
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: happened will shine a light. And my heart breaks for

1650
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: the Floyd family. Anytime anybody, any one of us is killed,

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01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 1: we have PTSD, and we think about the time that

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01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: my nephews walked in and saw the doctors massaging my

1653
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: nephew's heart trying to keep from a w I mean,

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01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: it is heartbreaking. We feel for the Floyd's family. It

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01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: is just I don't even know what to say. I'm

1656
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: so emotional. You said very sorry for for your experience,

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01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: and uh, it's raw and courageous for you to call

1658
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: and share that with everybody, and and we're grateful for

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01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: you and we appreciate you. Okay, I'm sorry for your loss.

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01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 1: You know what, look up qualified immunity, Have your callers,

1661
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 1: your listeners learn about it. That's the only way change

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01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: is going to happen. Yeah, thank you, Okay, thank you,

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01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: thank you. Um wow, yeah, I got to leave it there.

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01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest. You know, Rich as a police

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01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 1: officer and he's holding and he wants to what. I

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01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: don't what I don't want is this to become any

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: sort of and I don't know what. I don't want

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01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: anyone to discredit her story and it's her opinion and

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01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 1: her feeling and it's hard not to. I mean, it

1670
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 1: really pulls at everybody what I don't And I'm gonna

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01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: take rich Um the police officer, but I just let

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01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: me get rich on the phone. Rufio. Rich you've been

1673
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: holding for a long time, and I want you to talk,

1674
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 1: but I if you don't mind, officer, I'd prefer that

1675
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 1: you not present any sort of, you know, strong counterpoint

1676
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: to that very emotional story that she just told. If

1677
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you if your point is sort of maybe about something else,

1678
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: that would be because I don't want some sort of

1679
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: political conversation to begin here. And if people want to

1680
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: look that up in research independently, then by all means, Um,

1681
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, but we're really focused right now on on

1682
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: our city and on you know, trying to uh find

1683
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: find some resolution to the violence and the destruction. Rich Yeah, right,

1684
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: that definite me not what I came on a radio for.

1685
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: I really want to give my condulces to a big

1686
01:28:54,080 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: lady that was shot had or the son Nephi am

1687
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: marcodovisis to her and fred, I hear you on a

1688
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: radio saying that, you know, just compor change and I'm

1689
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: just giving my opinion on on my side. I'm not

1690
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: here to give a political debate, no, And I appreciate that.

1691
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: And I know it's not that it's not that we

1692
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't have that conversation, because maybe we should. But that

1693
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 1: was a very raw and emotional story for her and

1694
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: I for everybody everybody who heard it, and obviously, you know,

1695
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: we take her at her word and it's an awful

1696
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: thing that happened. I and as a police officer hearing

1697
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: is I'm assuming a good police officer, you're hearing this

1698
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 1: and you're saying, I, well, that's not who we all are,

1699
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and I want to believe that too. But I guess

1700
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate that we're sort of that your your point

1701
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: is potentially different from from from what she just said.

1702
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Let me start by saying this, When I saw that video,

1703
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: it was very disturbing. Like most police officers in the

1704
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: United States, they watched that video, so watching man's light

1705
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 1: slip from slip from them in a matter of minutes,

1706
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, And that's the reason why we have any

1707
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: state statute, especially particularly here in Illinois, have the word

1708
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: reasonable in the state statue. What is reasonable force? Clearly

1709
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 1: that was not reasonable force. That was actually to the audio.

1710
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: And I heard the officer, you know, saying, I'm not

1711
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna get into that, but he was saying a lot

1712
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: of negative things, which left me to believe like there

1713
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: was no reason for this conversation. The guy already secured

1714
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 1: prior to them getting over to the vehicle. There was

1715
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 1: no reason to use any type of force. And the

1716
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: simple fact of the matter is it's there's no test

1717
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: on this planet thing can weed out. A hole is

1718
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna be an a hole no matter what. And you

1719
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: can give this guy training over every single day that

1720
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: he comes in, he's still gonna go out there and

1721
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 1: be an a hole. And this one officer casts a

1722
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: whole shadow on all police across the nation look entirely bad. No,

1723
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Everybody has different views and have

1724
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: different you know, type of interaction with police. So he

1725
01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: have the different pains, which is completely understandable. It's completely understandable,

1726
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: and we should be accountable health accountables, just like everybody

1727
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: else should. I agree with her, Like I said, I'm

1728
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: not here to debate anything with that. It was horrible.

1729
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: It was horrific when I watched it. And but the

1730
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: fact is, we can't make change if you're coming out

1731
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: here hurting other people that have nothing to do with this,

1732
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 1: you're hurting businesses who have nothing to do with it,

1733
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 1: You're destroying it. You're making the economy worse by destroying

1734
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: other people's businesses, other people's property. How is this moving forward?

1735
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: And then I believe it's a lot of kids that

1736
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 1: don't understand, really understand, like I understand, believe me that

1737
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 1: you know, what happened was really bad, But as far

1738
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 1: as like what they're trying to prove that, it's almost

1739
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: like they're trying to use Malcolmexus way of going about

1740
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 1: things to you know, to justify what they're doing. And

1741
01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: it's like you don't even like know what malcolmmexic was

1742
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,480
Speaker 1: out what really what he was pushing forward, like malcolmex

1743
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 1: was about fighting back, fighting was somebody trying to hurt you.

1744
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: There's no speech that malcolmex ever said that he was

1745
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and destroy other people's properties. And

1746
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: it's true people Black people are really fed up. It's

1747
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: the simple Black people are fed up. We're treated definitely

1748
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: because I'm a personal color. Like I go walk into

1749
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: a store like literally, like last month, I was at

1750
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: home good and I'm in I'm off duty. I have

1751
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: a jacket on, police boots and cargo pants and let

1752
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: he asked me do I work there? And can I

1753
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: help her? And she clearly sees my badge and everything

1754
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: on me. But you're doing it just to be ignorant.

1755
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: So I understand because just like the young man I

1756
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: heard earlier that went to the part, he can't even

1757
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: walk to his own apartment building without somebody asked him

1758
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: does he live there? You know? THEO believe me, I agree,

1759
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: was half the people that came on here, and you

1760
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:55,560
Speaker 1: know they're voicing their you know, just they're they're frustrating

1761
01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: with everything, you know, and it's really frustrating for us

1762
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: as well. Like I'm at watching the video, particularly here

1763
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: in Chicago, We're I'm staying three police officers getting beat

1764
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: on in the street because their fear if they try

1765
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: to defend themselves, they're going to be on Tannel seven

1766
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 1: being persecuted because they were trying to defend themselves. That's

1767
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: a very difficult area. Rich. I feel for you as

1768
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: a police officer because you I mean, there are incidents

1769
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: like the one that we just heard about that seems

1770
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: it seems like an abuse. Obviously that George Floyd, that's

1771
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 1: that's I mean, I don't think there's any debate that

1772
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: was an abuse of power. But then there are other

1773
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: situations where it's your life or a criminals life, and

1774
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: if between the two, it shouldn't be yours. Because you're

1775
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: out here as a public servant trying to keep our

1776
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: communities safe. That's that's where it gets so difficult. And

1777
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,839
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about George Floyd, not even a relative

1778
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: example of this, But you're right, I gotta think as

1779
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 1: a police officer when when you're walking up on a

1780
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, you pull somebody over, you're walking up on

1781
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: a traffic stop and you have no idea what's in

1782
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: that car, and you wonder, am I going to have

1783
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: to defend myself? And what's that going to mean? Yeah,

1784
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: it's true, it's it's a really it's a gray area.

1785
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: There's it's really a difficult thing to deal with. But

1786
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it as like I've read, I've heard

1787
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you said this multiple times like now, it's time for change.

1788
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I feel like as long as there

1789
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 1: are people that are different, people that have different religions,

1790
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: there's rich and poor people live in different areas, people

1791
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,600
Speaker 1: that believe in different things, we're gonna continue to have

1792
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: this problem. And if you look at history, we always

1793
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 1: have this problem. It's it's I don't understand, like how

1794
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna gonna change like we've been but are

1795
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: your father has been through this, the father before that

1796
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: being through this, and so on and so forth. We

1797
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: are just a destructor. It's a human. It's the destructive humans,

1798
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 1: a destructive and I don't see anywhere we're just gonna

1799
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 1: be some type of change. Like and understand what I

1800
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: heard the lietendant on here earlier speaking like these types

1801
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: of reforms and police departments. Um, that's a that's a

1802
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: step in the right direction. Um, But to feel like

1803
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: people are gonna be who they are like that you

1804
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: can't weed out bad people in the world, Like it's

1805
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: unfortunate that you're gonna have bad apples to step through

1806
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,879
Speaker 1: the crack and they get hired on the police department

1807
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: and we work with them, you know what I mean?

1808
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 1: And then and then there's some other departments that are

1809
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:23,440
Speaker 1: particularly big, like LAPD, Chicago PDNYPD, where you have officers

1810
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 1: of colors who are scared to speak out in fear

1811
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: of backlash, you know, or their personal safety, you know.

1812
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 1: And it's a lot deeper fred than what people think.

1813
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: But it's it's really hard and it's really difficult being

1814
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 1: in this position as a police officer to you know,

1815
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: you want to speak out about different things. And that's

1816
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 1: why you know, I think of speaking with Pauling earlier.

1817
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's also so much I can stay on

1818
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 1: the airplane. Um, I really believe in condocence to the

1819
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 1: the lady who had or Matthew shot by police, and

1820
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: everybody else who's had harm done by police. And you know,

1821
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that deep things occur, and you know, I

1822
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: don't really know what's to say. You know, it's really heartbreaking.

1823
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 1: And that was the worst thing I've ever seen. It

1824
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: was to watch somebody like the Slip watching it on TV,

1825
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: you know, and he's just a guy's still on top

1826
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: of him after he's unconscious already, you know, and you know,

1827
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: if you know, I'm sorry, I'm just no, no, don't

1828
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: rich you know, no, you don't have to apologize. And

1829
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: and look, is a forum like this is people hearing

1830
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: you talk right now, you know, is it is it

1831
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna make a difference. I it can help, but make

1832
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: anyone who is listening right this second think about all

1833
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: of this. And you're doing a good thing by you know,

1834
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 1: calling up here as a police officer. I think it's

1835
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: very brave of you to share your story, um, and

1836
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: and to share your experience as a police officer of color.

1837
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: And I guess that's all I can hope. All I

1838
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: can hope is that if everyone does something like this

1839
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 1: and we continue to put it out there, we continue

1840
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 1: to give the information and hopefully peacefully, you know, bring

1841
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: more and more awareness to this injustice. I can only

1842
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: hope that slowly we'll see some change, hopefully, And and

1843
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: people need to put their money where their mouth is too.

1844
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: If you say you want to change, cast your vote.

1845
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: You know, prosecutors, local politicians, the president, the senators. And

1846
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make a political statement here, but

1847
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: if you know, um, judges, I mean this is you know,

1848
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: be aware of what's happening in our in our community,

1849
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 1: in our society, and we do have a chance to

1850
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: do something about this, right, Yeah, we really do. And

1851
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: it really takes people who cares. True, you have to care, yes,

1852
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: and it's our it's our civic responsibility. We have to

1853
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: check those in power, you know, that's that's our job.

1854
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 1: And voting does that. And like you know, Fred said,

1855
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 1: get in there and put your money where your mouth is. Yeah,

1856
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: it's it's been it's long bend time for action, but

1857
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: it's it's let's say it again, it's time for action now.

1858
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 1: Rich thanks for holding, thanks for calling, and be safe.

1859
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Best best to you. Thank you, I love you. Yeah,

1860
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 1: I love me too. Thank you for your service to

1861
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: our community as well. So look a lot, there's so

1862
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: many different perspectives and angles here, and it's it's tough.

1863
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: It's tough. But one thing that I think we all

1864
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: agree on is is that we we stand. You know,

1865
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: we're lockstep with with the protesters, with the peaceful protesters,

1866
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,639
Speaker 1: and do what it takes to to continue to make

1867
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: this issue u you know, to put this issue in

1868
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 1: the forefront. What happened to George Floyd is not right,

1869
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: It is not okay, and it cannot continue. And I

1870
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 1: guess all we can continue to encourage is to do

1871
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 1: this in a peaceful way, um, in a non violent way,

1872
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 1: because well, I under well, I can't relate to and

1873
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 1: I could never fully understand. Well I can well, I

1874
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: feel the people who are just so tired of not

1875
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 1: being heard. It unfortunately detracts from the larger message. And

1876
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the most important part, right, is to be

1877
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: heard in a positive way and hopefully to wake people

1878
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: up to the fact that we got to do something

1879
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 1: about this and we have to keep talking about it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we do. All right, let's take a break. We'll come

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Speaker 1: back in just a second. Leon Rodgers on this show

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on, got some trending stories, some

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Speaker 1: entertainment stuff. To stay here, Angie,