1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about something though, might as 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: well jump out the gate with this a record against 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: the top teams in the NBA. Pretty horseship. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: It would be Owen seven and six seven against the 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: top three teams Boston, Cleveland, Okay, see for a team too. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: To see that stat and to recognize it, I think 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: it could be taken two ways. It can be extremely 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: beneficial because it could put you in a position of 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: being humbled and realizing like where you're you know, we 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: we have a lot of room to go, you know, 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: if you want to compete with these guys in this team, 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: or you know, it could you know, kind of break 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: teams and you think like, oh, we're not as good 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: as these people or all these teams. I think with 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: the mental we have and the character of the team 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: that we have, I think it would be the first one. 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: I think it would be more of a a humbling 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: statistic for us and shows us that, you know, we 19 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: have good players, we have you know, great talent, but 20 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: we got to go out there and we got to 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: put forth the effort every game, in every possession and 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: not concede easy baskets or you know, start the game 23 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: off slow or anything. Like that we got to start 24 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: pushing ourselves to the limit on both ends of the court. 25 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: Which is why I'm not really panicking with that stat 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: because I think it will open our eyes to realizing 27 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 2: we have to you know, get to another level individually 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: and another team obviously, but I think would do that 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: a lot. 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: To say, but I think the main focus that we 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: should have, it's obviously use that to kind of push ourselves. 32 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: But it like sucks because like first time we play 33 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland at the Garden Rep, like thirteen or fourteen, lost 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: played Okay see at Okay See we upped double age 35 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: it's something and lost. So like we've shown that we've competed, 36 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: right Boston, we cut it to four last time whatever, 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: then obviously ship the rest of the game. But like 38 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I see where we have opportunities to where we can 39 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: like be aggressive and pounce on it in and win. 40 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: But the frustrating part about all this is that like 41 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: like we have, like we have what it takes. We 42 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: have the personnel, Like we have everything we need in 43 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: that locker room, right, we just got to put together. 44 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, the extra and o's and all that stuff, 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: like what, Yeah, that's easy, that's the easy fit. But 46 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: like the amount of times we've been like embarrassed on 47 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: national television. I mean, that's that should ring a bell. 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: That should be like a wake up call in itself, 49 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: not just for those games, just like for the rest 50 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: of the season, like we gotta away the hell up. 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: Like for me, like obviously I can't speak for anybody 52 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: but you know, but myself. But like for me, I 53 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: didn't play the Cleveland game, you know, and I didn't 54 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: travel with the team. So I'm at the house watching 55 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: it and I'm like, did you watch the whole game? 56 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: I'll turn it off after the third course. I thought 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't watch it, but it was like, okay, you know, 58 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: and obviously that was, you know, was a bad loss, 59 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: but you know, out those seven, that's that's just one. 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: So I was out there for the other six. So 61 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: now I'm looking at it from this side, looking at 62 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: how it looks on national TV getting smacked by thirty 63 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: and how embarrassing it looks. And I'm sitting there like 64 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to go out there and miss an 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: assignment on any possession. I don't want to go out 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: there and feel like I'm not playing hard on any possession. 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: Because that's what it looks like, and I'm embarrassed, you know, 68 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: being a part of it. So you know, obviously I 69 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: don't want anyone to be hurt and watching you know, 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: those games of National TV, but you know, I think 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: it should everyone should at least watch that game and 72 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: just see how it looks because like whatever else aside, Like, 73 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: you know, it was embarrassing, and that's not who we 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: are as a team. You know, starts from you know, 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: everyone starts on top with with Dolan or you know Leon, 76 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: you know, tivs us like, that's not who we are. 77 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: So that's We're not going to settle for that being 78 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: the product that we put on the court. 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: I'll say that it's okay, it's not okay, but that 80 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: is who we are right now. It's who we show. 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: But I mean, we have an opportunity to fix it. Yeah, 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say that's not who we are, 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: that's not who we want to be. It's what we 84 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: show the other night. But I've always said this, every 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: time you step on the court is a chance to 86 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: see where you are, regardless if you play right, and 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: that just shows where we are. 88 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: M h. 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: We're not ready, but we have a long way to 90 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: go to be ready. It's not playoffs yet, Like, we're 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: still in a good position where we can get better 92 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: right and be ready by the time playoffs start and 93 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: be ready by the next time our next game. But yeah, 94 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: we got a long way to go. But I'm okay. 95 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that because it's it's it'll make it 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: that much better when we're when we're able to get 97 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: over the hump and start playing well against those teams, 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: and sure we can do so, I mean, it's part 99 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: of the process. 100 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: I feel like for you in particular, one thing you 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: rarely see is people having any issue with how you 102 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: handle yourself in like a postgame conference. But but you 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: made a comment after the Boston game that I think 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: had next Twitter riled up. I don't know if you 105 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: saw that, but it was basically you were saying, like, 106 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: we're not worried about closing the gap on Boston, We're 107 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: worried about getting better as a team. And I feel 108 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: like people maybe read that the wrong way. But like, 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: I guess, talk a little bit more about about that 110 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 3: and what you're trying to get across. 111 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't focus on any other team except for or 112 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: any other player except for the one that's in the 113 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: locker room. If you're not wearing Knicks on your jersey, 114 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: I don't care. 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: There's no Knicks on jersey. It's just as New York if. 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: You don't have New York on your jersey. 117 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: I don't care. 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't care what the Boston Celtics are doing. I 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: don't care what the Cavs are doing. I don't care 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: what the okay see you doing. Like I'm not sitting 121 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: there like, oh, we have to beat these guys like 122 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: we have to. I want to be where they are. No, 123 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: I want us to be the best team we can be, 124 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: and I and that team can compete with those guys 125 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. But I'm not obsessed with the fascination 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: of we have to close a gap on the Boston Celtics. 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Let me play Doo's advocate. I agree with you, But 128 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: you're also the same person and said everyone's chasing Boston. 129 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: Did you not that I think everyone's chasing Boston in 130 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: terms of they just want to chip right. But I'll 131 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: sit there and say this, say you're so fascinated, because 132 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: I'll say if you're so fascinated on one opponent, and 133 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: that's the goal we want to We want to beat 134 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: the bosson Celtics. We want to close a gap on 135 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: the Boston Celticas and all that say. Right now, you 136 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: know how the seating or if the playoffs stop today, 137 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean it started today. You know if you know 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: we we if we win the first round, they win 139 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: the first round, we would play down where it would 140 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: be in a collision course to play down. If we're 141 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: so fascinated with the sense of beating Boston and we 142 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: beat Boston in the playoffs, there's room for complacency. There's 143 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: room for oh, this was our goal, we that we 144 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: succeeded in this goal, and then there's room for a failure, 145 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: the room for a fall off. If you're sitting there 146 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: like I want to make sure where the best team 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: we can be. I'm the best player I can be 148 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. This team is the 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: best team we can be at the end of the year. 150 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: I don't know where that is, but I know if 151 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: that's the goal, and I know this team can compete 152 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: with those teams, then the goal is a finals. But 153 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit there and be so obsessed 154 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: with playing one team or competing against one team, because 155 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: if you do that, you have so much enjoyment in 156 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: winning that it's room. I'm not saying you will, but 157 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: it's room for complacency. And I think if you don't 158 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: leave yourself room for complacency, you won't have it, and 159 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: you're just continued to strive. So that's why I'm not 160 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here saying I don't want to close the capital, boss, 161 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: and I want us to figure our identity out, figure 162 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: our vibe out so we can compete at the high 163 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: its level we can. So if people don't like that, 164 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: you know, they have their own thoughts. You know they're 165 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: not me. I have my own decision. Anyone see how 166 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: I play. I mean the proofson to put in me. 167 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: I play as hard as anybody does. You know, once 168 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: we lace up the shoes. So they don't like the 169 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: answer to. 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: It is that you mentioned obviously you have the personnel 171 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: in the locker room. I think that's probably if I 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: had to put myself in the shoes of next Twitter, 173 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: I think that's probably why people ourselves at is because 174 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: of the personnel, right, because you mentioned I think on 175 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: a prior episode the season is all about finding losing 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: at finding losing and then finding it at the right time. 177 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: I obviously at this moment in time, one could argue 178 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: that you guys lost it for a sec. But I 179 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 3: think it's because of how good the personnel is and 180 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: and the fact that you guys made all the right moves, 181 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: the fact that you have all the pieces that I think, 182 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: when come together right, it's a championship team. And I 183 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: think it's really just about hopefully hitting that's right at 184 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: the right time. 185 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Every season for every team is a roller coaster. 186 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna have peaks and you have valleys. It's like, 187 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: how do you get better from both of them? How 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: do you cone when you're hitting a peak? Like, how 189 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: do you continue to stay up there? When you value 190 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: how do you quickly get back up? Like It's a 191 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: very long season, very long season with a lot of emotion, 192 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: a lot of talk, a lot of communication, a lot 193 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: of trying to figure out what's the best way for 194 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: us to be successful. Even the best teams have. Every 195 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: team struggles with something, every team right. 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