1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: As a guide an hunter. I've spent thousands of days 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics. They'll get you closer 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren. 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: This is cutting the distance. Welcome back to the podcast everybody. Um, 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna start off with a little 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: bit of podcast news for those of you that haven't 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: heard yet. This is going to be the last podcast. Um. 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: The government's gonna be shutting us down because there's reports 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: of people listening to the podcast and being too successful outdoors, 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: too successful hunting, so they want those success numbers to 12 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: go down. Um, so we're just gonna have to close 13 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the podcast up. April fools. That is I think of 14 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: a few hopefully your heart drops if your heart didn't 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: d up and come on, man, that's happy April fools everyone. 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: I had to just throw that out there. That would 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: be funny though, right, get shut down like state agency 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: calling me up. Hey, Um, you know, in our models 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 1: of success, we don't factor in that that many people 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: are successful. We need those success rates to stay around 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: five to ten percent. Max. You know you're doing too 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: good of a job teaching people how to be successful. 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: But that's the goal here, That's that's what I'm all 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: about sharing in that success. On this week's podcast, Uh, 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the rest will not be April Fools jokes. I will 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: answer things seriously and be truthful and honest in my 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: opinion as I head to the mail sack where your 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: burning questions are answered. This is the part where I 29 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: get interact with you guys, where you send me the 30 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: things that you want. I I try to say it 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: nearly every time, but I really want this podcast to 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: be about helping everybody be successful and also kind of 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: make it a thing where, um, it's focused on the 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: things that you guys to learn. So all the input 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that I get, um goes into kind of helping me 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: build out what I talk about. And then also I 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: like these kind of once once a month check ins 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: with the listener questions because you know, there's a few 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: things maybe in podcasts in the past, or kind of 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: a sharing of success, things that people are interested in, 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: and it allows me to kind of really tailored to 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: those of you that listen. So I appreciate everybody that 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: has sent in their questions. Let's right now just dive 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: into the questions and start with UM, got a little 45 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: bit of a testimonial here, so let's jump into it. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: First letter, actually, UH is more of a testimonial, and 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I think this is pretty cool. It comes from Justin Jensen. 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: He says, my wife teaches a pe archery class for 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: the University of Idaho and she has used your Archery 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: one O one and Archery one on two podcasts as 51 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: part of her lessons for new students. Just thought i'd 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: let you know we both enjoy listening to your podcast. Thanks. 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: That is awesome to hear. UM. I really enjoyed doing 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: those archery podcasts. If getting into bow hunting something that 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: you're thinking about, go back check those out. I know 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: those have been some of the ones that have gotten 57 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: a ton of response on and the reason I get 58 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: a ton of responses because I had a ton of 59 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: questions come in about that, and so I made the 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: podcast for those of you that wanted that, and so 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the feedback on that. That's awesome to 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: UM see people getting into archery, and kudos to your 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: wife for that archery class. UM. It's it's awesome to 64 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: see people out in their community doing things to bring 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: people into the sport of archery, whether it's and that's 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the cool thing about archery too. I can be a 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: bow hunter, but there's a lot of other people out 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: there that could just be getting into archery for the 69 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: sake of archery. And that's what I love about it 70 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: because it's so fun to shoot your bow. And as 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: we go into spring, as we go into summer, that's 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: the time. I mean, there's no better time. Right now, 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking out at a beautiful day and you better 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: believe that on my list is going to be shooting 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: that bow. I like to shoot rain in snow, sleet, shine, 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: but it's just a lot more fun when the sun 77 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: shining and it's just that like nice weather. So thanks 78 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: for that feedback, and I'm pretty stoked on it. And 79 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: for those of you that haven't caught those episodes, feel 80 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: free to go back through a little library here. Nice 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: thing about cutting the distances. There's no such thing as 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: an old episode. There's just episodes that we've posted. Um, 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: go back and find stuff that's topical to to what 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: you're looking for, what you want to get into you 85 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: because we're building out a pretty extensive library. This next 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: one comes from Eric Inness. It says pronghorn one oh one. Hi, Remy. 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: I absolutely love the podcast and because of your tips, 88 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: I had several close encounters of the elk kind last year. 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: After spending multiple years wandering around cluelessly in the woods, 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: I decided to spend my pronghorn preference points this year 91 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: and go hunting only. I have no idea how to 92 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: hunt pronghorn, what should I look for? When the Scouting 93 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: one oh one episode would be awesome? I really like that. 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: I think, UM definitely see a full pronghorn one o 95 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: one episode in the future, but I think that it's 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: it would be cool to just jump on and answer 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of this right now as well. Um, 98 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: when I think about any kind of scouting, doesn't matter 99 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: what whether it's elk, whether it's meal, they or whatever, 100 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: the first thing I think about is the type of 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: habitat and terrain that those animals need and what makes 102 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: that animal very specific to that hunting style. So when 103 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: it comes to pronghorn, their main major defense is their eyesight. Uh, 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: they have incredible eyesight. It's like I've heard it compared 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: to looking through a pair of eight power binoculars. So 106 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: when you think of that. If your main defense mechanism 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: is your eyes, well, what kind of habitats you need 108 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: for that? The answer is open country. Now you can 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: find open country based on a map, like pronghorn country 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: is relatively flat because in the flat stuff they can 111 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: see further and open without a lot of timber, because 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: then they can also see further. Um. The way that 113 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: they rut, the way that they interact, the way that 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: they survive is using their eyes and their speed. There 115 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: are the fastest undulant land mammal in the world, second 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: fastest land animal only to a cheetah, and I actually 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: think that their endurance would far surpass a cheetah. So 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: I bet you if you put a race over a 119 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: certain amount of distance, um, I would I would be 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: willing to bet that the prong horn antelope would actually 121 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: outpace that cheetah. I've seen cheetah's hunt. I've seen them 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: their massive bursts of speed, but I've also seen them 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: right after that burst of speed, they just lay down 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: like panting and trying to catch their breath, which, of 125 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: course they've been running at the speed of most automobiles. 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: So of course it makes sense that they build up 127 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: lactic acid and need to cool down and take a break. 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: But prong horn man, I have seen them run for 129 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: miles at like a truck pace, just cruising across the flats. 130 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: So one thing you want to think about is like 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: looking on whatever you're e scouting with, uh, looking for 132 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: that that flat terrain. So what I'll do, like I 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: can look at the different topo lines and then I 134 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: can switch between like a view of like a Google 135 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: Earth style image, a three D image, and just see like, Okay, 136 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: what's the vegetation look like? Mostly through aerial images, you're 137 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna be looking for that brown, that grass, that stuff 138 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: that antelope like planes type stuff, and most antalope areas 139 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: have that. And then you know you're gonna want to 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: cross reference that with public land unless you've got a 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: place where you can hunt private. So depending on where 142 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: you cast your points in, you're gonna now say, okay, 143 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: where in this area has this antelope habitat because there's 144 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot of areas that don't hold antalope habitat. I mean, um, 145 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: I look at a lot of the areas that I've 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: hunted antelope, and there's mountains, but you know those antelope 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be at that bottom end of the mountain, 148 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: in the flat in the valleys, and then you might 149 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: find some antalope up in the hills too. Like it's 150 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: not that they avoid those places, um, but it's got 151 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: to be like less timbered, more open, and you should 152 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: be right there zooming in and finding some solid places 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: to check out when you get into there. And then 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the other thing is like, when you get into antelope country, 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: do it smart. Check out as many places you can 156 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: on the first day you get in there, drive around 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: and look around. You should see antelope all day long. 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: The cool thing about antelope is they live out in 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: the open. They don't necessarily go down into like thick 160 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: cover to bed, so you can find antelope all day long. 161 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: Now they will bed down and be out of sight, 162 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: but they do move around a lot during the day. 163 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: And it's probably one of the in my opinion, one 164 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: of the most fun hunts out west because you're seeing 165 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: stuff all day, You've got multiple opportunities. Um. It's just 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: if you if you aren't having a lot of fun 167 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: antelope hunting, your antelope hunting wrong. And that's that's just 168 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: the best way to put it. So give that a try. 169 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Check that out. And that should gets you started, and 170 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: we'll go into some more antelope tips and tactics a 171 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: little later on in the season as it gets a 172 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: little closer. So thanks for your question, Eric. Alright, this 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: next question comes from Alec Alec Robbie. He says, I 174 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: listened to your thoughts and situations on calling out, most 175 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: of which take place during the rut September me through October. 176 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: My question is, have you had success calling in the 177 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: later season November through December, when the behavior has changed 178 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: from rhet to post red. How would you go about 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: calling during those later months compared to traditional rep months. 180 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: Um And he says, if you've talked about this in 181 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: the past episodes of your podcast, I'd love to track 182 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: it down and listen to it. Thanks. Um, that's a 183 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: that's a great question. Now. I actually have answered this 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: question multiple times on the Q and A S. But 185 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I honestly think it like bears repeating, because it's maybe 186 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I probably should just do a whole podcast on it. 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: To be honest, elk or not super receptive to calls 188 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: later in the season. What I mean is like calling 189 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: an ELK in may not be it's it's not really 190 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: going to happen in those November December time frames, but 191 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: it depends on the area. I'm not out there in 192 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: November December ripping bugles. Um. However, there I say that, 193 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: and I've actually called like only once in all my 194 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: time of hunting. I think that I can remember I 195 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: had a bowl like bugle at me Um November. I 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: hear a bugle up on the hill and I'm like, 197 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: that's weird, so I just like bugle back. He bug 198 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: goes back. I'm like, Okay, this is weird. And then 199 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a few seconds later like it's getting closer, and I'm like, 200 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: what is going on? Hebu goes like throughout some cow calls, 201 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: and ended up calling this bull right into like thirty 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: yards and shot it with my rifle in November. But 203 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: that's happened one time out of I don't even know 204 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: how many probably days of elk hunting, so it's like 205 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: one in a thousand chances. You know, It's it's pretty low. UM. 206 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: I will say though that I still always have a 207 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: call throughout the end of the season, but what I'm 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: using it for is cow calls, UM, And I use 209 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: it in three ways. So the first, the number one 210 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: reason that I use a cow call all times a 211 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: year is to stop an animal. Um if I if 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: say I spook something where they didn't win to me, 213 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: or I shoot it an elk and either hit it 214 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: or need a follow up shot. It doesn't matter when 215 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: I get into elk, I hit that cow call, like 216 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: if they're starting to spook or start to get easy. 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: It puts them back at ease, It makes them curious, 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: it makes them stick around, and that could be the 219 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: difference between getting a shot and not. The next way 220 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: that I use a cow call is as I'm like 221 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: hunting or still hunting through timber to possibly locate cows, 222 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: like as a locator. UM, I'll use that cow call 223 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: as like throwing up like cow chatter where they think, oh, 224 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: it's just another elk talking. I have in some instances 225 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: had cows call back, especially later on in the season 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: when it's like maybe they're grouping up from migration. The 227 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: elk will start piling in areas and start creating these 228 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: big groups. It's like a safety and numbers thing, and 229 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: new elk keep moving in. You will hear elk talking 230 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: later in the season, mostly cows, but it's a good 231 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: way to maybe identify elk in an area that's like 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: thicker timber. And then the third way I use it 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: is just kind of the same thing when I'm still hunting. 234 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: But if I am making noise, like let's say I 235 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: crash and crack a stick and I'm going into an 236 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: area that I think might be a betting area, it's 237 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: just to put animals at ease. Now I won't necessarily 238 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: expect to hear something called back, but maybe things will 239 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: come in and investigate, or it's just giving like them 240 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: an idea that that noise that they hear walking around 241 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: is another elk and not a hunter. So kind of 242 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: the same as the last one, but I use it 243 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: that way a lot um now, depending on the area, 244 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: if you're hunting an area that has a lot of 245 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: hunting pressure, I try to lay off the elk calls 246 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: later in the rifle season, I don't really want other 247 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: hunters knowing where I'm at, so pretty much for me, 248 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: like when I'm hunting general areas, that cow calls just 249 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: to stop or slow down or calm down elk that 250 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: I've already encountered, And that's a good way to think 251 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: about it. Alright, this next question, I actually uh a 252 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: lot of these questions will actually pull from multiple places, 253 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: uh ones Remy at the meat Eater dot com. But 254 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I would say that probably the more popular one that 255 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I pull from is just my at remy war on 256 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Instagram page. So if you don't follow me on Instagram, 257 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: if you got Instagram, UH, please over there, check it out, 258 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: give it a follow. Um you'll see a lot of 259 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: cool Like you know, I try to share most of 260 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: my hunts on there. A lot of the stuff I 261 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: talked about on the podcast is on there. You know. 262 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: People send in questions through that, and I just I 263 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: screenshot the ones, Like if a question comes in, I 264 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: screenshot it and then just kind of go through and 265 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: pick some that are like other ones or or ones 266 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: that I like. This one came from Instagram. Actually don't 267 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: have the person's name on here, but rough country restoration. 268 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: He says, Hey, Remy, looking for some advice. You may 269 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: be able to help me with myself and three buddies 270 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: are looking to go on in a complete d I 271 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: y in the back was l hunt this fall with 272 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: our bows. But we are in a pent on An area. 273 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: We should try to put ourselves into uh to do 274 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: it as we all live in Maryland and West Virginia. 275 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: Any advice at all or suggestions is much appreciated now. 276 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean in many ways that could be just a 277 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: question of hey, where should I go? But I think 278 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: you know right now, first you gotta say, okay, well, 279 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: what what's even available? Um, at this point in the game, 280 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: your best it's gonna be Colorado. Uh, You're there's gonna 281 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: be some over the counter tags and that's pretty much 282 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: where you're gonna be focused. If you want to just go, 283 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: make sure that you got a tag and can hunt. Now, 284 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I would definitely go back and check out the tag 285 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: application series that I did recently and kind of give 286 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: you an idea of Okay, maybe some states to think 287 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: about in the future. Wyoming is another great state that 288 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: you can kind of build preference points to and plan 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: two or three years out. If you want to go 290 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: this year, anybody listening, I think Colorado is going to 291 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: be your best bet, maybe your only bet, because pretty 292 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: much all the other draws are ending Montana's deadlines today 293 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: the first um, everything else kind of wrapping up now, 294 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: that's just you know, if you want to guarantee that 295 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: you can make a plan and the other thing. The 296 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: cool thing about that is finding an area where you 297 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: know I would look at it like this, how many 298 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: times do you think you guys could go? I really 299 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: suggest if you're gonna do it, do it with a 300 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: couple of buddies where you can kind of share expenses 301 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: of going out getting yourself out there, and then um, 302 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, think of us bought. Maybe you could do 303 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: it two years, three years, whatever and find a place 304 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: that you could reasonably get that tag multiple times. Because 305 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: just like anything, that first year is gonna be a 306 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: major learning curve. You should kind of think of it 307 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: like this. The first year you do it, Yeah, you 308 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: want to be successful, but it's really gonna be like 309 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: figuring things out. And I guarantee you that the second 310 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: time you do it is going to be a lot 311 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: more successful. But you kind of look at that first 312 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: trip is like, hey, where can I go where I 313 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: could do this maybe twice or three times or like 314 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: reasonably within a five year period, do it again because 315 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna learn so much on that first trip that 316 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: your second trip is gonna be a lot more successful. 317 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: And hopefully you know in there you guys will have 318 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: found some success. I mean that does happen, but just knowing, 319 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: like if it was me and I'm like, hey, it's 320 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: a long way to go, I'm gonna pick somewhere that 321 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I think I could go. Maybe if I planned out 322 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: within five years, Let's do this twice kind of thought. 323 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: And I know that is a big ask, but it's 324 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: gonna be probably the best for success. So finding an 325 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: area that's easy to get into a couple of times 326 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: would be my suggestion. In Okay, this question, I got 327 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: a lot of these questions right here. This is a 328 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: good question. Comes from Griffin Uh. He says, Remy, love 329 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. It really helped me last archery elk season. 330 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: My question is about side arms to carry while hunting. 331 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: I carry bear spray, but I'm looking to buy a 332 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: side arm as well. Any advice on why handguns, what 333 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: to get and what caliber has enough stopping power but 334 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: isn't going to add unnecessary bulk. That's a that's a 335 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: good question. I actually literally the very next question that 336 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: came up after this was from Ryan uh. He says, Remy, 337 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: just curious if you carry a backup handgun when hunting 338 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: in bear country and if so, what is your preferred caliber. 339 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I know people have their opinions forty four mag, ten 340 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: millimeter three fifty seven, whatever you train with, et cetera. 341 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: He says, I live in California, but planned to hunt 342 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: as many Western states as I can. Any information is 343 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. So that was two of probably like more 344 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: than a dozen questions that I got since the last 345 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: Q and A about handguns. I mean, I've I've tried 346 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: a little bit everything and had to use very little, 347 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: which is good. When I'm in big bear country. I 348 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: personally like to carry uh forty four mag. So one 349 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: one of my favorite bear protection side arms is the 350 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: Model three p D Smith and Wesson. It's like an 351 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: air light super light frame forty four mag. I like 352 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: it because it's light. I also like it because it's 353 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: a revolver. I will say this it came with a 354 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 1: wood grip handle. First thing I did was get rid 355 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: of that because the wood started to swell with water 356 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: and everything like that. The other thing I did have 357 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: a major problem with it after one trip. They actually 358 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: have a lock on the cylinder of the gun. Is 359 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: like a safety feature that's in there. I didn't know that. 360 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: I had no clue that that happened. On a trip 361 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: in Alaska, Luckily it happened right after I unloaded it, 362 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: so I was in the field. I had it loaded 363 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: up everything, I unload it, I close the revolver, and 364 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: then I can not get it open again, and I'm like, 365 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: what the heck. Thankfully I had happened to unload it 366 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: was leaving and I had to actually take it to 367 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: a gunsmith. I'm like, yeah, there's a lock on here. 368 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: I didn't there's no key that I knew of um 369 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: to open it up, and so I actually had a 370 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: gunsmith just removed that safety mechanism because I thought, man, 371 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: if if they like completely in operates the firearm and 372 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: if it's something that I need to pull out and 373 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: shoot a bear with and it's locked up for whatever reason, 374 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: that would suck. I don't know if anybody else has 375 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: had that problem with it, but if that would be 376 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: my suggestions first thing, to like take it to smith 377 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: and have them removed that, because I don't know if 378 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: it's something that's commonly goes wrong. But I did have 379 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: it that happened to me, and then I thought, man, 380 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: what if I wasn't able to open it and it 381 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: was still loaded, I wouldn't be able to fly with 382 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: it or anything like that. But I have I have 383 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: really enjoyed that pistol. I shoot it really well as well. Um, 384 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: it's got a little bit of kick. And some people 385 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: like the more semi automatic pistols for bear defense because 386 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: they're quite accurate, but also you can fire off a 387 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: few more rounds and get a few more rounds down range. 388 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: I can fletely understand that as well. So I've got 389 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: a lot of friends that started carrying ten millimeters. There's 390 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: been many trips in big bear country where I also 391 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: carried a ten millimeter. Unfortunately, I think I got the 392 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: The ten millimeter I have isn't as light as my 393 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: forty four, so I don't carry it as often, but 394 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: I would. I'm kind of looking at I think the 395 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: next gun that I would get would be a maybe 396 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: a glock ten millimeter. Um. I think that ten millimeter 397 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: would work on big bears. Um, there's a lot of 398 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: evidence that says it suggests that it does. Plus you 399 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: can put a few more rounds into a tight area 400 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: pretty quick. I think, like Ryan said, you know, anything 401 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: that you're trained with, anything that you can shoot well, 402 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: is going to be key. Um that the larger ten 403 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: millimeter have. It's a sig Hunter ten. It's pretty dang heavy, 404 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: but man, do I shoot that really well? Um, it's 405 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: like a full frame, big pistol. It's heavy, but I 406 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: mean I can put every round into where I want 407 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: real fast without having to think, and that I've got 408 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: to ACTU like a fiber optic site on my which 409 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: is nice. Like it's got a little bit of high 410 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: high visibility and you just kind of intuitively throw up 411 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: and and go. Um. You can definitely empty a clip 412 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: pretty fast, and in some ways that's good. Some ways 413 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: that's bad. Um, But in in most situations, you know, 414 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: you you want to have it the gun ready. I 415 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: think in any situation where I've ever needed a pistol, 416 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: if I didn't have one in the chamber, it wasn't 417 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: gonna be enough time to actually defend with it. So 418 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: that's I like the Revolver for that reason. I like, um, 419 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, semi auto is good for that too. I 420 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: just think some summer feel a little safer than others. 421 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: And then I would say, the number one that I 422 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: actually carry is a nine millimeter. I know it's it's 423 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: a little under kill for a lot of things, but 424 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: a lot of places that I hunt where I know 425 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: there's not real large bears, but I do want some 426 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: kind of additional predator protection or whatever. UM. I carry 427 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: my nine millimeter a little bit more. That's all so 428 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a Smith and Wesson MP nine. It's 429 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: it's a smaller frames like could be, and b a 430 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: little more of a concealed carry type firearm. I like 431 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: it because I shoot it super well. I know that 432 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: anything you know, like black bear, Mountain lion, even the 433 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: occasional place where it's like, hey, the odds of actually 434 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: running into a grizz or low, but I could pretty 435 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: much shoot where I'm aiming pretty quick, and it's light. 436 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot lighter than my ten UM. I like 437 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: that too. I don't know. This is a lot of 438 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: rambling on just personal preference, to be honest, I think 439 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: for big bears, pick a big caliber UT is even good. UM, 440 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: but ten millimeter and forty four I think would be 441 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: my top two choices for going into big bear country. 442 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, if you like that idea, if 443 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: you're familiar shooting a semi auto, you think that you 444 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: know it'll hold up in weather and other things, then 445 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: I would go with the ten if you like, you know, 446 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: the idea of a revolver and maybe just a little 447 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: less moving parts. I would go with the forty four. 448 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: That's my personal preference on that and that's what I carry, 449 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: So UM, take that as you will. But I think 450 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: that there's a lot. I mean, there's no right or 451 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: wrong answer. I would say the rightest answer would be, 452 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: make sure you get pretty solid ammo if you're shooting 453 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: for bare defense, some pretty heavy bullets, some solid lead bullets, 454 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: and you should be good to go. You definitely do 455 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: not want to And I've seen it all the time, 456 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: people putting like cheap plinking ammo in their bare defense pistol. 457 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: That's a bad idea. UM. I know because I've actually 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: had cheap plinking ammo in my bare defense pistol and 459 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: had to use it on a bear um one that 460 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: had been shot. I didn't shoot it, but the client 461 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: of mine shot at and he was going in and 462 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I said, here, he used this. You know, he didn't 463 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: want to destroy the hid or whatever. So I handed 464 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: my pistol. But I didn't realize that I had like, 465 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: not very good rounds in it. And we realized real 466 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: fast that those rounds didn't work very well. Uh So 467 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: you ended up having to use his rifle again, which 468 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: is fine, but we're trying not to damage so much meat. 469 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: Um So that that's my suggestion on all that This 470 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: question comes from Eric. He says, Hey, Remy, love the 471 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: podcast and all information you provide to make everyone a 472 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: better hunter and help more people to enjoy the outdoors. 473 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I'll be going on my first caribou hunt in Alaska 474 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: in early August. I have previously listened to your podcast 475 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: on proper meatcare since I'll be bringing home the meat 476 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: if successful. But one thing I haven't heard anything on 477 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: is bringing back the antlers and head. Will I need 478 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: to ship this separately or will the airlines accept these 479 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: as a check item along with the meat. Also, what 480 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: is a good way to prep these items for travel? 481 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: Any info would be greatly appreciated. Again, love the podcast, 482 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: keep up the great work. Thanks Eric. That's a great question, Eric. 483 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: Um So, you know, when when you're thinking about you know, 484 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: obvious sleep, the meat care is very important, but when 485 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about bring home antlers on a trip where 486 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: you're flying, there is some special things that I do. 487 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Uh So, first of all, August, you know you're gonna 488 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: be um hunting carib especially early August. So the first 489 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: step would be you got to think about you've got 490 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: velvet on the antlers, and in velvet has to be 491 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: treated like meat, and it's gonna have to be treated. 492 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: So I found a product recently called velvet Lock, so 493 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: it's like a antler preservative and you spray it on. 494 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: I would absolutely bring a bottle of that. I had 495 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: some antlers in the freezer that I just did the 496 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: other day actually um this week, so uh, it works 497 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: really well, and you've got to think, like, man, if 498 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you want to keep that preserved, that velvet on that 499 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: caribou early August, you're definitely gonna need something for the velvet. 500 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: So you can get a bottle of this and you 501 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: just spray it on super easy. I mean, like way 502 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: better than injecting in my opinion, because it's more practical 503 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: and you can do it right away. So it's a 504 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: velvet antler preservative that's like the rety bucks for a bottle. 505 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: You should definitely have that in your kit. If you're 506 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: hunting velvet, you know there is the option to strip it. 507 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I hate stripping velvet, not because I mean velvet can 508 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: be a pain in the butt. But when you strip it, 509 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: the antlers haven't been polished up, and they aren't. They're 510 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: like super porous, so they'll never color. They just don't 511 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: stain up right. Especially early August, they just don't look right. 512 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: You really want to try to preserve that velvet the 513 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: best you can, and it's super hard to do. Now. Unfortunately, 514 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: my last caribou bull that I had, it was like 515 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: all the bulls should have been stripped, and there was 516 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: like maybe, you know, I think in the whole trip, 517 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: we saw five bowls that were still in velvet, and 518 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I did not want to have to shoot a velvet 519 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: bowl out late, like it was just already ready. It 520 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: was probably gonna come off in a day or two. 521 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: And pretty much within the first three yards of packing 522 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: out the bull, I could smell like the velvet underneath 523 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: was rotten and it just like fell off. So I 524 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: wasn't able to keep the velvet on last one. Even 525 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: if I had preserved, it wouldn't mattered. But I wasn't 526 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: actually planning on running into any caribou that had velvet 527 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: on their antlers still. But that's just something to think 528 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: about that maybe would get overlooked, so you're gonna have 529 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to first take care of the velvet. Now we get 530 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: into the situation of the airlines, So there's a couple 531 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: of rules. When you're flying with antlers. Doesn't matter whether 532 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: there's a caribou in Alaska, a mule deer from Colorado, 533 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and elk whatever, there are certain regulations that you have 534 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: to follow. And those regulations include all the points must 535 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: be wrapped and taped over. So one thing you're gonna 536 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: want to bring with you is some cardboard, some duct tape, 537 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: and I bring saran wrap, um, just like plastic wrap. 538 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: So what I do my system is you cardboard the 539 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: tips or pretty much the entire antler. If anything is exposed, 540 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: any type of point, doesn't matter whether it's in a box, whatever. 541 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: If anything is exposed, they're immediately going to flag it, 542 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be the guy in the airport that 543 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: they're like kicking out a line and it's like trying 544 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: to fix it and doesn't have all the materials. I 545 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: pack extra pieces of cardboard and then I pack um 546 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: some tape and some serandap. So what I do is 547 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: I fold the cardboard over, I tape it and then 548 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: I wrap everything in the cell of thane and that 549 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: keeps it like nice and tight. I also split the 550 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: antlers on my um because you gotta have a it's 551 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: got to be in a box. So you gotta have 552 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: some kind of box that you can build to fly 553 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: back home. And you know, maybe ahead of time, wherever 554 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: you're at, if it's gonna be something big, plan on 555 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: fighting somewhere where you'll be able to buy a box. 556 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: And then um, I split the antlers on my skull. 557 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: So the best way to split the antlers is gonna 558 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: be skull capping it. And then what I do is 559 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: I do a little bit of a saw mark in 560 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: the back, a little bit in the front, and then 561 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I use pressure to snap them, like to break the 562 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: plate along that line, because if you just run the 563 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: straight saw, you're gonna have a quarter inch gap that 564 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: it won't necessarily fit back right. So I like that 565 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: natural brake line where I can then later on reattach 566 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: them if you're using a tax it or misst amount 567 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. They're really good at that. If you're doing 568 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: it at home, that's the best way that I've found. Now, 569 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: if you just want to do like a year pan 570 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: mount on the skull. What sometimes would all do is 571 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: I will actually saw one of the antlers off of 572 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: the pedicle and then I'll reattach it later using like 573 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: a drilling method and posts and epoxies and um bondo. 574 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: But the other concern that you have to have when 575 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: you're shipping at home is you probably have to have 576 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: the brains removed. School has to be it doesn't have 577 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: to be boiled out, but it has to be somewhere 578 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: where it can't drip. So what I use is I 579 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: use the saran wrap. I'll put like a garbage bag 580 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: over the skull, tie it real tight, and then I 581 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: will just wrap the crap out of it with that 582 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: saran wrap, that cellophane and get it super tight into 583 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: this like nice little tight package. Because if there's anything 584 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: that can leak, they're gonna throw it out. And the 585 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: last thing you want is your skull or your antlers 586 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: to get tossed. So if everything is clean and kind 587 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: of dry, wrapped up and doesn't stink, you're gonna be good. 588 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: So those are the considerations you want to think about 589 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: with your flying with anything. And even if you're like 590 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: on a deer hunt, you get a deer and you 591 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: just you could Like a lot of times, I'll just 592 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: throw it in my luggage if it'll fit, Like I 593 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: usually carry an extra duffel bag, and then I put 594 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: the antlers in that. But the antlers inside of it 595 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: need to have the tips wrapped and then the skull 596 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: plate or whatever else wrapped really well so it won't drip. 597 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: And so it doesn't isn't showing really anything because if 598 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: they look at it and inspect it, and there's like 599 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: a time that could potentially poke out of a bag, 600 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: which probably will never happen. Um, it's just in their 601 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: rules and regulations that it has to be covered by something, 602 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: and that covered something would be UM the cardboard that's 603 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: for caribou. For things with like other points mule deer, 604 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: I always carry like I've got an old garden hose, 605 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: and I cut sections out of that garden hose and 606 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: I put them in a zip block baggie and I 607 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: travel to my hunting destination with that if I'm flying, 608 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: because then what I'll do is I'll throw that garden 609 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: hose over the tips of the points and then wrap 610 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: electrical tape around that to secure it. That's a really 611 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: easy way to cover the tips is just with that 612 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: garden hose, and then you can also fold it over 613 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: and then tape it around again. And you gotta make 614 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: sure you do every point. And that's a really solid 615 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: way to UH to transport antlers through the airlines. Next 616 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: question he comes from Brian. He asked about spring bear 617 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: hunting and he says, I've seen or read some conflicting 618 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: information on hunting bears in the morning. Is it largely 619 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: a waste of time? Or should we be on the 620 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: mountain before the sun comes up every morning? Thanks again 621 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: for all you do. Appreciate the tips. Brian from Fort Worth, Texas. 622 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Now here's my thoughts on it. 623 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: I feel like three different things. A lot of time 624 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: bear movement in the spring when it comes to spot 625 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: in stock the hardest part is because bears can be nocturnal, 626 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: they can be very solitary, finding the right timing where 627 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: you're catching them out in the open. Now, the funny 628 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: thing about bears is I've seen them in the middle 629 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: of the day. Some some years it's like the middle 630 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: of the day and that's when you see them, and 631 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: other times it's the mornings or evenings. I have found 632 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: like over the years, I used to hunt from sun 633 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: up until dark and in the springtime, if you're at 634 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: a far northern latitude, those are really really long days. 635 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: If you're going in ahead like for light, and then 636 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: you wake up and you're glassing in the morning, it's 637 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: like essentially you get two hours of sleep and you're 638 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: just hunting and looking and it's just mentally draining. My 639 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: clients just could not handle it, and they're like, this 640 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: is just it's too tiring, and I'm like, okay. So 641 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: then I kind of switched to this, like I'll just 642 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: hunt like not necessarily half day, but like go in yeah, 643 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: like I have day going around noon and then huntil 644 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: midnight kind of thing. You know, like you're hunting until 645 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: dark and then hike out and by the time you 646 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: get to the truck and drive back out, it's about midnight. 647 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: And we realized we see just as many bears. But 648 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: that's not because I think it's an evening thing. What 649 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: I do oftentimes is like the first part of the trip, 650 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: or like if I'm going somewhere, I'll hunt kind of 651 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: like i'll glass in the mornings. I'll spend a couple 652 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: of days kind of hunting all day, which is the 653 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: best if you got like the energy, you know, and 654 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: you can always take a nap whatever. Um, I'll hunt 655 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the morning and the even because I have seen a 656 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: lot of bears in the morning. Because the other thing 657 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: I realized is like if I just hunted the morning. 658 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes when I'm just like I'm hunting for myself and 659 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: it's like I gotta work or whatever, I'll go out 660 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: and like hunt the morning and then go to work 661 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, I still see bears. So it's 662 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: not that they aren't out in the mornings. I think 663 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: it's just maybe where you're at and when you're concentrating. 664 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: There are times too where it's you see more bears 665 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: in the morning than the evening. So the first couple 666 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: of days figure out the bears pattern, what are they doing? 667 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of it, honestly, I think, is based 668 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: on the moon phase that you're currently in. So are 669 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: the bears like more nocturnal? Um, is that moon coming 670 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and then staying 671 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: through the morning than in which case I would maybe 672 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: consider like hunting mornings longer. The nice thing about mornings 673 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: is they tend to stay out longer in the morning 674 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: if it's cold. It's also kind of a temperature thing. 675 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: If it's real hot out um and it's hot in 676 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: the evenings, they're probably gonna be moving around more in 677 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: the morning when it's you've got that like cool temperature 678 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: than the evenings when it's hot. So honestly, if you 679 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: can hunt as much as you can do both, I 680 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: mean logistically, it can be exhausting and you might not 681 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: be as mentally focused to go, you know, all day 682 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: just like glassing and looking, and there's times where it's 683 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: like you won't see anything and it kind of puts 684 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: you off to paying attention at the peak times. Then 685 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: you kind of got to gauge it based on the weather, 686 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: the moon, and kind of the little bit of the 687 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: activity that's going on um in that area. I know 688 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: that's it's kind of like convoluted, and some of that 689 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: is just going to take a little bit of experience 690 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: to know when is going to be the right time 691 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: for me. You know, it's been years of kind of 692 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: like understanding and being around him and kind of doing 693 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: both to know, oh, this is gonna be a morning 694 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: hunt or this is gonna be an evening hunt. But 695 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: I think generally bears tend to be a little more 696 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: active in the evening, So if you had to pick one, 697 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I'd probably just go with the evenings. That was a 698 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: long way to get to the answer of it's very 699 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: dependent on many things. So this question says, hey, remy 700 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: question for your last white Taiale rifle season. I had 701 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: a pretty rough steep hill country here in Kansas and 702 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: mostly publicly, and it's on multiple shooter bucks. Is they're 703 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: running over the hill. I have very little to no 704 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: access to being able to scout this place out throughout 705 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: the year. Do you have any tips on how to 706 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: get on loan bucks after the rut? So that's a 707 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: great question, and I think it's probably one that a 708 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: lot of people encounter. Um, you know, you might not 709 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: be able to to go check out these areas ahead 710 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 1: of time. And honestly, most of my hunts are this way. 711 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: I go into an area and maybe it's the first 712 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: time I've been there, or maybe you get to go 713 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: back to the same spot, but you don't have a 714 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: chance to to scout it out ahead of time. Now 715 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: I'm assuming and this really makes sense just based on 716 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: the little bit of information in here. You're hunting public land. 717 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: But you're seeing these good bucks and it's like they're 718 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: running away because you're blowing them out a thicker cover, 719 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: or you're blowing them out of areas where they're kind 720 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: of recuperating after the rut. What happens is after the rut, 721 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: these bucks, these especially these mature bucks, they've they've kind 722 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: of they've bred their doughs, they've spent all their energy. 723 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: Now they've got to bulk back up. So what they're 724 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna do is they're gonna pull into these pockets and 725 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: almost go like what people would call nocturnal, but I 726 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: almost think they aren't really moving much in the night either. 727 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: What they're doing is that they're recuperating. Um, they will feed, 728 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: but a lot of them might just be like regaining energy, 729 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: because they're gonna go start going into this feeding pattern 730 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: and they're going to be moving around the least amount. 731 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be stuff that's thick, where they've got 732 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: good cover, where they probably aren't going to be bothered, 733 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: and then where they can have quick access to food 734 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: and other things right there without having to move. A lot. 735 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: I see this happen, especially even with our like big 736 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: mountain white tails. I've I've found this to be the case. 737 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: It's like you see deer, you see deer, and then 738 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: they just disappear, and it's like the big bucks are 739 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: off by themselves somewhere. Um. One thing that I kind 740 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: of find is there's a couple there's a couple of things. 741 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: The first thing is what time of day did you 742 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: blow this deer out? If if you blew the deer 743 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: out in the middle of the day, I'm gonna say 744 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: that this is probably that deer's preferred betting area. And 745 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look around, say where did that deer go? 746 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: And is there anything else like this where you can go? 747 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: If there's not, I would be even focus in on 748 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: that area and um and plan on hunting that other 749 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: times and just being in that area to glass and 750 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: check out that area, like in those crepuscular times when 751 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: those loan bucks might start to move right at first light, 752 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: right before dark. Um. Now, another thought too, is like 753 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: just being a little more cautious as you still hunt, 754 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: taking a little slower in these areas where hey, you 755 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: know you're blowing out bucks, Maybe say like what's in 756 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: this particular spot? Why am I blowing out this deer. 757 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: Where could I be where I might see this deer earlier? 758 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: That might even be just like as you're still hunting, 759 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: throwing up that glass and just using your binoculars constantly, 760 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: even in thicker country, to pick out the pieces of 761 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: that deer before he sees you. Another thing is looking 762 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: for sign and looking for those areas where it's like 763 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: there's those places where you know, you probably know you're 764 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: you're like walking whatever, especially like maybe somewhere where's a 765 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: little more open, like Kansas, and you're like, Okay, this 766 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: bottom definitely is gonna hold some deer, and you know it, 767 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the deer know it. You know there's deer in there. 768 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: Maybe figuring out ways where it's like, okay, where would 769 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: these deer be feeding at? How can I kind of 770 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: hunt this strategically, Like I already know there's gonna be 771 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: a deer in there. If I walk in there, yeah, 772 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow it out. So maybe I don't walk 773 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: in there. Maybe I just kind of hunt the fringes 774 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: and try to figure out a way make sure my 775 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: winds always right, and try to figure out a way 776 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: to outsmart the deer that are in there without blowing 777 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: them out. Just hunting a little bit slower and hunting 778 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more methodically, and that should be a 779 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: way that you can kind of find a little more 780 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: success than that. I've had to do that many times, 781 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: especially late season in some in Montana and some other places. 782 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: And that translates white tail, mule deer, whatever of very 783 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: similar tactics because that's what the big bucks do. And 784 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: in order to find those big bucks after the rut, 785 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: you kind of have to figure out where are they 786 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: going to be? And that could just be I mean, 787 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: you know, when you see it in many ways, it's like, yeah, 788 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a deer hiding in here. Um. I've 789 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: hunted places in South Dakota where it's pretty open and 790 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: you're like, during the right you see deer everywhere, and 791 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: then afterwards you're like where these deer go? And you 792 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: go into this one draw and you're like, well, there, 793 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: that's a really brushy little spot in this draw, and 794 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: sure enough you walk through it and your buddy across 795 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: the way says, yeah, twenty deer ran out of there. 796 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: You like, I didn't see any of them. They're all 797 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: running away from me. I couldn't get a shot. Um, 798 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: just knowing that those areas do hold dear, they will 799 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: hold dear, and kind of focusing in maybe picking it 800 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: apart a little bit harder and seeing seeing what you 801 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: can turn up. All right, we got our last question here, 802 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: um comes from Jeffrey. Uh. It's a little bit of 803 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: a life advice question. Love these kind of questions, says 804 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: Aramy've been catching up on your podcast while painting our 805 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: baby room and putting together baby furniture. Our babies due 806 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: June is our first. From what I understand, you and 807 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: your wife are also expecting. Just curious what your plans 808 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: are for getting out hunting after the baby is born. 809 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: Do you plan to take the baby with you within 810 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: the first year? Has your wife expressed any concerns if 811 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: you plan on being away for about a week or 812 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: more hunting, he says. He goes on to say, my 813 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: wife is not as outdoor active as yours. Despite a 814 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: few years of trying now, I have only been able 815 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: to get her out fishing, but not hunting. So any 816 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: advice on getting your partner more involved in hunting is 817 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: also appreciated that Thanks Jeff from Calgary, Alberta. This is 818 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: a great question and actually, um, I actually wrote an 819 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: article a few issues back on in Western Hunter magazine 820 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: about kind of getting your family and getting new people 821 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: into hunting, especially your spouse. I'm expecting a baby in 822 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: June as well, and it's also my first. Now everybody's like, oh, 823 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: things are going to change this, that and the other thing. 824 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: But also people say a lot of things that they 825 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: may not. You know, people said that when I would 826 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: get married and other things. So we at least have 827 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: like this philosophy, like we're gonna do things the way 828 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: that we do things. Obviously, a baby is going to 829 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: change many things, but I think it won't change a 830 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of things for me. I'm planning on taking the baby. 831 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like babies do in June, and I'm 832 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: taking her bow hunting in September, hopefully. Got a little 833 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: backpack thing and you know, I'm gonna have all the stuff, 834 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna you know, take it easy and maybe 835 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: cruise around a little bit and and look around and 836 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: just play it by year. But um, I'm hoping that. Yeah, 837 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm definitely she's definitely gonna go out with us in 838 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: the first year of life and that first fall, uh there, 839 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 1: there's gonna be quite a few hunts. Now it's it's 840 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: awesome that my wife goes along with me and really 841 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: enjoys hunting as well. Um, but you know, it was 842 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: something that she never not I would say, like her 843 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: dad hunted but never took her and um, and it 844 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: was something that like she's kind of got into later 845 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: in life, and it's something that she kind of like 846 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: I never really pushed it. She was the one that 847 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: kind of initiated it, but I also like provided a 848 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: series of positive hunting experiences. And those positive hunting experiences 849 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: first started for our family in the kitchen. It was 850 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, preparing like we live off wild game, but 851 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, that was my lifestyle before meeting her, and 852 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: then really like including her in the thing of like 853 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: we're making really good food and her under standing where 854 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: that food came from, and that is like really the 855 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: basis of her really being interested in hunting. Now, this 856 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: could be different for a lot of people, but I 857 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: also know a lot of other hunters that kind of, 858 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, their wives really got into it based on 859 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: like seeing the way that I cared for what I 860 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: ate and then also understanding that being a part of 861 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: that process means something to me and then my wife, 862 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like got into it through fishing 863 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,439 Speaker 1: as well. She loves fishing. She's probably a much better 864 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: fisher person than me. When it comes to like lucky 865 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: style fishing, you put a fly rod in my hand, 866 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: I will dominate the water every time. But when it 867 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: comes to anything else, any other strategy, whether it's ice fishing, trolling, 868 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: bait fishing, don't it doesn't even matter. She just has 869 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: the knack for catching the fish, which is really fun. 870 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: She will always catch the bigger fish. And now, I 871 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: think one thing to think about is, so as you 872 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: progress and like maybe move into bringing someone on a 873 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: hunt or whatever, So let's say they decide they want 874 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: to do it, uh, you know, really tailoring that that 875 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: experience to them, not putting your own expectations on that trip, 876 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: on that whatever. My wife came along on a lot 877 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: of hunts with me before she decided to hunt. Now, 878 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: I've seen people ruined family members, kids, their wife, whatever 879 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: on a hunt where they just went and it was 880 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: just all hardcore, all whatever. Trust me, there's I guarantee 881 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: you would be hard pressed to find another person out 882 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: there that hunts as hardcore as I do. And I 883 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: recognize that in myself, and I knew when I took 884 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: my wife on her first trip it was not about me. 885 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: It was not about me being successful. It was about 886 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: me showing her a positive hunting experience. And we ended 887 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: up being successful, and that it was a backpack hunt. 888 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: In the first day, it was like we were in 889 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: New Zealand and I'm like, okay, we're gonna go chase 890 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: tar and me I would have climbed to the top 891 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: of the mountain and just like war, everybody out and 892 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: probably killed the bullet oar on the first day or 893 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: whatever we packed in. I brought more food than I 894 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: needed to carry. I set up a bigger camp and 895 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: a nicer set up than I needed to do. Um. 896 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: I made it really about like her experience and not 897 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: in like in many ways catering to her comfort level, 898 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: but also like explaining things like going slow and I 899 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: needed to And it was like in my mind, I 900 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: didn't care if I got anything, if I got something 901 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: or didn't, it was just like having a good hunting experience, 902 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: and that to me was one of my most memorable hunts. 903 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: I ended up shooting a young red deer like a 904 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: free range red stag um and packed it out, and 905 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: then you know, we went back and uh, let her 906 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: be part of the process and and kind of you know, 907 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: explaining the kind of like kill portion, and you know, 908 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: she was sad and I'm like, that's you know, completely normal. 909 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: And then you know we have like we made like 910 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: an awesome meal and just kind of like bringing in 911 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: that whole experience. But also there was like the point 912 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: of during the day was like we packed in, we 913 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: got to the spot and me I was like, I 914 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: spotted some deer. It was like, oh, okay, we could 915 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: totally go after those and I'm ready to roll. Most 916 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: of you would just be like, oh, let's go up 917 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: there and shoot him, you know, and then instead of 918 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: like I could tell that she was a little bit 919 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: tired or whatever, so it was like, now let's just 920 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: set up camp, let's have a big lunch, let's take 921 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 1: an app you know. The kind of things is like 922 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: progressing along whereas like that deer will be there or 923 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: won't be will make it a hunt, but also kind 924 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: of cater to the person that's with you, and that's 925 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: that's huge and like building those first outdoor experiences because 926 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: until someone really understands it um and is into it. 927 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, they might not value the same things that 928 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: we value, so kind of catering to the person that's 929 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: with you. Now it's like my wife drew a archery 930 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: deer tag and hunted a candar or was it like 931 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: sixteen consecutive days? I mean I was war out by 932 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: the time it was over. And now those those hardcore 933 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: experiences are just part of the things that we do 934 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: that she loves because now she understands it as a hunter. 935 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: But those first steps that you take, whether it's a kid, 936 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: whether it's your wife, whether it's anyone, building it out slow, 937 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: progressively and maybe starting out with something that's like a 938 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: small game hunt, uh, something where you can go along 939 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: and just make it like a family, a family thing, um, 940 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: cater to your wife, catered towards the baby, cater towards 941 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: your family, and make it an outing that you guys 942 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: get to do together. And I think that that will 943 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of bring in the hunting and the family aspect. Now, 944 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: there are some people that just maybe we'll never understand it, 945 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: maybe never want to do it, and also you know, 946 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: don't push it. It's something that you kind of have 947 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: to want to do and really take upon yourself, because 948 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you need to learn, 949 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you need to do to 950 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: become a hunter, and it's very hard to do if 951 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: you aren't really interested in it. So that's my life 952 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: advice take on that. It's kind of funny because my 953 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 1: buddy Chris Denham, who's the editor of Western Hunter Magazine, 954 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: They've also got a podcast and some other things, and 955 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: he was talking to me one day and he was like, oh, yeah, 956 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: I want I want to do a podcast. And I 957 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'll do a podcast. And he's like, no, 958 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to you. He's like, I 959 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: want to talk to your wife. He's like, I want 960 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: to know what your wife thinks when you go on 961 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: these long hunts and other things. And I actually think 962 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: it would be kind of I I kind of want 963 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: to know what she would say untethered the like what 964 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: her perspective is on a lot of this and and 965 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: where where she's coming from. Maybe that would be kind 966 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: of a fun podcast in the future, but until then, 967 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,439 Speaker 1: until I've tried to figure that one out. Um, that's 968 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of my advice, and I hope that that 969 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: helps some people out there. And I think it's fun 970 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: if you can make it a family event and um, 971 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: whether it's fishing, whether it's any kind of outdoor thing, 972 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: you know, cater to the people that are with you, 973 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: and soon they'll kind of catch up to your level 974 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: and you you'll be UM, you know, you'll have an 975 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: awesome hunting partner, outdoor partner for life. Well, that concludes 976 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: our mail bag section for this week. I think I 977 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: want to focus on a few things to prepare in 978 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: some upcoming podcast this month, and then maybe spend a 979 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: little bit of time on a spring bear tactics. In 980 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: some upcoming podcasts, I think we're gonna cover some gear choices. 981 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: One of the things that I didn't read a lot 982 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: of the questions of We're very similar in asking about 983 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: gear stuff, and it always comes out this time of 984 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: year where guys are kind of getting their mind around 985 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: maybe updating their kit, maybe things to look for, and 986 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: I kind of like when I do gear stuff, I 987 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: really like to get to the kind of my thought 988 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: process us behind things. Um, it's it's really easy to say, oh, 989 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: this is a good product, this is a good thing, 990 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: this is what I use in which you know, I'll 991 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: definitely include the things that I use, but also my 992 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: thought process on gear selection. I like to get kind 993 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: of like behind the just the superficial stuff of there's 994 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: a reason that I pick all these certain products and items, 995 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: and maybe you can You could always just pick the 996 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: same thing that I've got, but you could also understand 997 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 1: why I picked that and find something that works for 998 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 1: your hunting style or what you're looking for. I would 999 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: say the top few things that I got like consistently, 1000 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: especially right now was boots and pack selection, and then 1001 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: what to look for in optics. So I want to 1002 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: break those out. Maybe the next couple of podcasts will 1003 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: be on that. I've got some really good ideas on 1004 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: the way that I want to structure that and kind 1005 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: of make it beneficial to everyone thinking about how to 1006 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: match something to their hunting type or how to match 1007 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: something to the hunting type that they're gonna do, and 1008 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: the most efficient use of gear and things to get. 1009 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 1: So that'll be coming up, and then we'll maybe jump 1010 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: into a little bit of spring Bear tactics in the 1011 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: near future. These are just some ideas that I'm thrown 1012 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: around based on the kind of input that I got. 1013 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: If you've got any more input or more questions. As always, 1014 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 1: feel free to shoot over those uh via social media 1015 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: at Remy Warren. So until next week, UH, keep the 1016 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: questions coming and I'll catch you guys all later