1 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans has been serving members and protecting 3 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: their health for seventy five years. Learn about our Tennessee 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: roots at FBHP dot com. I'm Mike Keith, and this 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: is a very special OTP because we got to take 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: part in a very special luncheon on Wednesday, November the ninth, 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: and that is our Salute to Service Military Appreciation Luncheon 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: where we welcome Titan season ticket members who have served 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: in the military. It's one of my favorite days of 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: the year because we get to honor some people who 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: gave for us and make what we do every day 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: possible through their service. So I gathered coach Dave McGinnis, 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: Amy Wells, and Rhett Bryan and conducted a bit of 14 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: a roundtable discussion at the halfway point of the Titan season. 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Some thoughts on different parts of the year and where 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: things can go, and even some thoughts about the Indianapolis Colts. 17 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: That's what you're hearing now on the OTP. I'm Mike Keith. 18 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Nissan Stadium, home of the AFC South leading 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Our Salute to Service Military Appreciation Luncheon is 20 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: one of the favorite things that we get to do 21 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: all year because we get a chance to honor season 22 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: ticket members who have served us and make days like 23 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: this and Sundays like the one upcoming possible to everybody 24 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: in the room who has served our country men, and 25 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: can we give them all a big hand right now? 26 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Please thank you. I have an esteemed crew here with 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: me today, and what we are going to do is 28 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: we are going to give you a very in depth 29 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: mid season report on your Tennessee Titans. So I will 30 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: bring them up one by one and hope that you 31 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: will recognize them as positively as possible. Up first, a 32 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: gentleman who has been with Titans Radio for twenty five years. 33 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: There have been four hundred eighty six Titans Radio broadcasts. 34 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: He has been a part of all four hundred eighty six. 35 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Please say hello to the ever reliable Rhett Brian. She 36 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: has been my broadcast partner for ten years years on 37 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: TV and now radio. She used to work for the 38 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: Colts and the Ravens, but but she changed and she's 39 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: here now and she's a big part of what we 40 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: do on Titans Radio and all of our television programs 41 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: and the Official Titans Podcast, better known as the OTP. 42 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Abe Wells, and you know 43 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: him well. He is the mayor of Nissan Stadium. He 44 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: is the most interesting man in the NFL. He is 45 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the backbone behind Titans Radio. We call him Titans Radio's 46 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: head coach, Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Dave McGinnis is here. 47 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Have a seat. Coach mack welcome. You gotta come through 48 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: the middle here. She's got you blocked off. All right. 49 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: So I said there was good news. I said there 50 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: was good news, and I'm going to make sure that 51 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: everyone knows what that good news is. I'm going to 52 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: read it from the release from about thirty minutes ago. Right, 53 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans made the following transaction today return to 54 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: practice remains on injured reserve wide receiver Trailing Burks. Yes, sir, 55 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: all right, So Coach Mike, let's just now. It doesn't 56 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna play Sunday against Denver. He could, they'll 57 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: have to activate him. Elijah Molden did this last week, right, 58 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: and he did not play in the game at Kansas City, 59 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: So it's not automatic. But if trailing Burks can come 60 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: back this week. What does that do for the offense, 61 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: for the receivers, for everybody involved. Well, Mike, the first 62 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: thing it does, even if he's out there, no matter 63 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: how many times he's targeted, he's gonna draw interest from 64 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the Broncos secondary. That will open up some things for 65 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: some other people. He had a turf toe, That's what 66 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: happened to him. He got a turf toe in Indianapolis. 67 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: And sometimes those things are varying degrees. They can be 68 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: really debilitating for a long time and then all of 69 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: a sudden start getting very much better incrementally. So the 70 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: fact that he is to be coming back off of 71 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: injured reserve is a really good sign there. And if 72 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: he is activated, he will be part of the plan. 73 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Believe me. We get to watch practice. We get to 74 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: watch practice every day, so we will see, you know, 75 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: how much he gets to work out there. But the 76 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: fact that he is coming back off of injured reserve, 77 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: this is kind of what we need for all of 78 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: our guys to start getting our dudes back out on 79 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: the field for this last push. So you're saying, even 80 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: if he doesn't catch a bunch of passes, he still 81 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: potentially makes a difference in the offense. Yeah, you got 82 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: to cover him. You're gonna have to cover him, and 83 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: that's what the Denver Broncos will do. They watch the 84 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: way for Wire too, and so they know wherever we 85 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: line him up, they're gonna have to at least put 86 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: one person over there on him because they don't know 87 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: how health he is or where his stage of development 88 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: is coming back off the toe. So if he's out there, 89 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: it's a help just to begin with. All right, So 90 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: let's start with a moment of truth here. When you 91 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: saw the Titans schedule in May, did you think the 92 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Titans would be five and three right now based on 93 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: what everybody does where you go, Okay, this win, maybe 94 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: not this win, this win. Did you think this is 95 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: where the Titans would be through eight games? Amy, you 96 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: get to go first. I kind of did. Actually, it 97 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: feels pretty spot on to what I thought. And I 98 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: even went back and looked at the schedule again just 99 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: to kind of think about it and kind of see 100 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: how close I was. And yeah, five and three feels 101 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: about what I expected for this Titans team. Coach. Yeah, this, 102 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what Amy always does when we have 103 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: a round table with the four of us. She always does. 104 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: She changes the rules a lot rules and so we'll 105 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: talk about that later. Amy, We've got a podcast together, 106 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: and you guys know it's called Titans Amy Coach Mac Podcast. 107 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I beg that people don't put my name first. I'm 108 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: scared of her. Just let let it be anyway, Mike, 109 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: is this beginning of the season, when everybody's healthy, We've 110 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: got all our dudes. I looked at this schedule and 111 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, after eight games, six and 112 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: two would be really nice. Okay, Now, with all the 113 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: injuries that we've had, especially when we've been without some 114 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: major major contributors and we've been without our quarterback for 115 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: two straight games. Now, five and three is an amazing 116 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: accomplishment right now at this point. And that's why your 117 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: point as far as trailing Burke's coming back and starting 118 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: to get some of our guys back where we can 119 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: start getting some engine going again with some of our 120 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: top line performers. But at the beginning of the season, 121 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: I would have thought everybody healthy six two. Rhett, I 122 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: did have the Titans at around five and three after 123 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: I looked at what I put down when the schedule 124 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: came out when you consider an all due respect to 125 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Indian Houston, not that I thought they should be able 126 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: to take care of business there, and then you think 127 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: about Washington. You know, I didn't know what to think 128 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: about the Buffalo game on the road or this past 129 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: Sunday night in Kansas City, knowing that those were top 130 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: teams in the division. But when you look at who 131 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: else was on the slate, five and three is good. 132 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: But coach Mack puts it right with what the Titans 133 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: have been through injury wise, it's a great spot to 134 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: be in, all right, rhet stay with you. Who's the 135 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: player who's been your biggest surprise through eight games. He's 136 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: a defensive player and he's a rookie. It's Roger McCrary, 137 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: the cornerback from Auburn. This young man, at one point 138 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: during this first eight games, led the team in tackles 139 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: three straight games, had two games with double digit tackles. 140 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: He had eight other night a pass breakup his first 141 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: interception and it came on Sunday Night football in Kansas 142 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: City against Patrick Mahomes. This young man never seems to 143 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: be rattled, and he seems to get better every game. 144 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: He is even better than what we thought the night 145 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: that he was drafted. And you put him opposite Christian Fulton, 146 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: and this secondary is in really good shape between those 147 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: two and Kevin Byard and a Mony Hooker coach Tierre Tart, 148 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: tier Tart, everybody know who Tierre Tart is. Yeah, look 149 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: this guy that There are guys that do the dirty 150 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: work in the National Football League on a team that 151 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: don't get the headlines a lot, and especially with what 152 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: we've gone through with the in and out of our 153 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: guys on the edge, he and Jeffrey Simmons together on 154 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: the inside have really hung tough through these eight weeks. 155 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: And Tierre Tart has improved more than any player that 156 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: we've had in the last two seasons. Wo. When he 157 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: first came in here, tier Tart could not hit a sled. 158 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not lying because he went to about seventy 159 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: eight junior college just before he got here. I mean, 160 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: his route here was really really hard. But for him 161 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: to be able to stick with it and to have 162 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: the fortitude to keep working, and then you know, tera 163 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: williams Our, our defensive line coach, does a great job 164 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: with these guys. He really does. And tier Tart has 165 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: become a major factor, especially in our run defense, which 166 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: is really really good. Now, you guys all heard Mike 167 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: keys call when he intercepted the pass. I thought he 168 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: was going to jump out of the booth, you know, 169 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: because because Tier, you know, for a big man, our 170 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: defensive line does an extraordinary job of what we call 171 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: matching hands with the quarterback because sometimes when you're they're 172 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: going to block you and you're not going to be 173 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: able to get into the quarterback, but you can affect 174 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the throw still and for him to do that, and 175 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: plus then have the have the wherewithal to be on 176 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: his back and still intercept it. But this guy just 177 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: keeps coming. I love those underdog stories in the National 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Football League from all the years that I coached. Those 179 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: are the guys that I really appreciate what they're accomplishing 180 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: in Tier twards my guy, Well, Mike, when you asked 181 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: the question, the first person who came to mind was 182 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Roger McCreary. The second person who came to mind was 183 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: Tier Tart. So great, thanks, guys. So you don't even 184 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: have one, No I do, actually, so the third person 185 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: that came to my mind was Nicholas Petit Frere. And 186 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: I say that because he is a rookie. He has 187 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: been a consistent performer on the offensive line. He's been 188 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: a starter all season, and he's a guy whose name 189 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: you don't here called a bunch, which as an offensive 190 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: lineman is exactly what you want. And he's on a 191 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: line that has seen some adversity this season. There have 192 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: been some changes, there been some injuries, and he's continued 193 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: to be a consistent force. For a rookie to be 194 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: able to do that and to not be a liability 195 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: and to be someone who just continues to improve and 196 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: continues to grow within that space, I think that's incredibly 197 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: impressive and excited that he's a Tennessee Titan for the 198 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: long term. That's a good one because he's going to 199 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: be here for quite some time. Are you getting a 200 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: fifth month from coach? That's good? All right? So, Coach, 201 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you talk about in the draft, you project guys, you 202 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: see what they can be. I'm gonna kind of ask 203 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the three of you to do this now, and I'm 204 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna get you to go first. Coach, over the final 205 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: nine games of the season, give me a player you 206 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: think can make a big jump, can really help this 207 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: club down the stretch, trailing burks, trailing burks, trailing, trailing burks, 208 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: trailing burks. That was hers trailing burks. Is a guy 209 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: that was really coming into his own we all know, 210 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: we all know the struggles early when he was not 211 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: in condition when he came here, you know, early on, 212 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: and then he came back was in great shape and 213 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: you could continue to see him make strides. Rob Moore, 214 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: our receiver coach, played for me when I was a 215 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: head coach the Arizona Cardinals, and he really likes what 216 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: this kid has done, especially the leaps and bounces that 217 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: he's made, and he was just beginning to kind of 218 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: touch that next level when he got the turf toe 219 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: at Indy. So I think over this next stretch of 220 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: nine nine ball games and the fact that he is 221 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: going to become off of IR, I think this guy 222 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: can make a jump if he can continue to stay healthy, 223 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: because he was nearly right there to be able to 224 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: make another jump. And so that's my guy. Uh. I 225 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: think I took both of these guys person, and it 226 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: makes me very happy that I went first. Can I 227 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: change the rules just a little bit, we know you're 228 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: going through and pick a position. He's going to pick nine, guys, No, 229 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just picking a position group as opposed 230 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: to a specific human because that's not what it says. Yeah, 231 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: who is the player that you believe can make a 232 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: big can? I can? I just tell you mine? Go ahead? Okay. 233 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: So I think that it is the tight ends group 234 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: as a unit. I think that they can continue to 235 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: be involved in the Titans offense with the return tight 236 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: Ends the Titans for the not the Titans, the tight Ends, 237 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: the tight Ends for the Titans. Okay, good. It's hard, guys, 238 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it's hard being a brand. I didn't know what you said. 239 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: You said, I think the Titans can make Greade, Well, 240 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: that would be the whole team. The Titans can really 241 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: improve this year. No, I think the tight ends specifically 242 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: within the Tennessee Titans offense. I think there's a lot 243 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: of opportunity for them to be used in different ways 244 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: than we've seen in the first half of this season, 245 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: with the return of some receivers perhaps or which Derrick 246 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: Henry being able to do a little more whip, some 247 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: more consistency within the offensive line. Health is going to 248 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: be a huge part of being able to get the 249 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: tight ends to be more active in this Titans offense. 250 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: And we've seen it already. We've seen Austin Hooper being 251 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: able to make some big plays. We've seen some of 252 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: those things. But I think there's an opportunity in the 253 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: second half of this season to get them more involved 254 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: in some of the exciting plays within this offense. But 255 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: do I know who specifically that's going to be now, 256 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not. After the first play the other night, it 257 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: looked like it might be Chicka Coquo. Yeah, exactly. I mean, 258 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: there are so many opper tunities within that position group, 259 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: and I think we're going to see more of that 260 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. We'll allow it. 261 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Ret Brian. Because of those two answers, 262 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: and she alluded to it about Derek Henry, that's mine. 263 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Dereck Henry can make a huge, huge run in this 264 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: last nine games and you're like, well, he's already making 265 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: good run. Yes, he's the leading rusher in the NFL, 266 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: but if these other things are opened up in this thing. 267 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Think about this, and I know he didn't really care 268 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: about this, but there's nine games left. He has to 269 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: average one hundred and twenty five yards of rushing in 270 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: those nine games, and he could get two thousand yards again, 271 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: and it's very conceivable that's a thing. He could drop 272 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: two fifty on Houston. I mean, who knows, but I'm 273 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: not betting. I'm not betting against twenty two. And I 274 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: think he can be a big, big difference in the 275 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: last nine games of this season. I think that's really good. 276 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Coach, I think the reason that I 277 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: agree so much with that is we're starting to see 278 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: him pop the longer ones. We're starting to see the 279 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: twenty fives. In the thirties, we saw a fifty six 280 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: yard run. And when he starts doing that, then you're 281 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: getting into that place where you're saying, you know, the 282 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: twos and the threes and the fours get added in 283 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: with an eighty, that average goes way up. Yeah, and 284 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: here's here's what it's all about. And I know, and 285 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: really we really appreciate everybody here. Thank you for your service. 286 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: But also I walk around the tables before we started here, 287 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to when we broadcast. Absolutely, thank 288 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: you so much for doing that. And every table I 289 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: went to and said, hey, coach Mack, we listen to 290 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: you and Mike Keith and Amy and Rett and we 291 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: really appreciate that. Look, you heard me say this a lot, 292 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: and it's a truth. With a back like that, that's 293 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: going to draw everybody's attention. The thing that you have 294 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: to do as an offense and as a game planner, 295 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: and then as an offensive line or a blocking unit, 296 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: you've got to get him to his fourth step. No 297 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: back in the league can do anything until they can 298 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: get to their fourth step. And then once you do, 299 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: what you start to see is now he's back there 300 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: one on one on maybe a linebacker at the second level, 301 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: hopefully on a safety at the second level, and then 302 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: it's him one on one to make a move. He 303 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: made some great moves against Houston and some of those runs, 304 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: but the offensive blocking unit, they starting to get him 305 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: to his fourth and fifth step, and that is critically important. 306 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: So that's what you watch for to see if that's 307 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: starting to bend. And then when you're doing that, you 308 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: can just see the will of the defenses you're playing. 309 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: Start the wild. Start the wild, because I mean it's 310 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: like hitting hitting a rock with a sledgehammer. Sooner or 311 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: later you're going to crack it. And so to me, 312 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry as long as we can continue to work ways. 313 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: And what Amy said about the tight ends is really true, 314 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: and we talk about trailing Brooks, we open up some 315 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: things down field. Football is all the numbers game, guys. 316 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not complicated, it's detailed. I mean 317 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: it can't be real complicated because you're listening to me 318 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: explain it, right, and so you know how smart I am. 319 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: The thing about this is, though, once he gets that 320 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth step, anything can happen, and he's going 321 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: to break more than one. I really believe it. He's 322 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: had a chance here lately. So that's what I look 323 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: forward to. All Right. It's exciting to think that the Titans, 324 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: even five and three and in first place in the division, 325 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: are not yet a finished product. Rich You're going to 326 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: get to go first. Where can the Titans improve the 327 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: most as a team over the final nine games. Well, 328 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: first of all, let's on the offensive side of the ball, 329 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: and it's something that they've been lacking that's going to 330 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: help them in a couple of areas, one of those 331 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: being third down conversions. But where they can get help 332 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: and improve is explosive plays. And it starts with a 333 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: guy like Trailing Burke's coming back into this thing. The 334 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: tight ends are a big part of it, because Chicka 335 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Concho had one the other night. They get those and 336 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: they can have these long, sustainable drives. That helps Eric Henry, 337 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: that helps the tight ends. That's a place that they 338 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: have been lacking and they need more of. And I 339 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: think a guy like Treylan Burks is a catalyst for that. 340 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him score some more points. You know, well, 341 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: it sounds silly when you say it like that, but 342 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, really, I think I would like this Titans 343 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: team to start separating that score a little bit more, 344 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: get some more points on the board. The Titans have 345 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: won some lower scoring games, but not every game is 346 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: going to be a lower scoring game. And that means 347 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: scoring more points in the second half. That means trying 348 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: to do some things to really get the offense cooking. 349 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: It's really amazing they've scored as many as they have 350 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: with where the production has been. I mean, the Titans 351 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: are maybe the only team in the NFL right now 352 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: averaging more rushing yards than passing yards, and yet they're 353 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: still averaging almost nineteen points a game, which is pretty remarkable. Yeah, 354 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely not bad. I mean, wins a win. 355 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: I don't care if you scored two points and win 356 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: the game, I don't care. But for the sake of 357 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: the defense, for the sake of everybody being able to 358 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: go out and make plays that result in scores, that's 359 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: what we need. It's a vertical stretch game. We've got 360 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: to stretch the field more vertically. People are starting to 361 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: bring people. I mean, every time Derrick Henry steps off 362 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: a bus and an away game or it comes down 363 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: this tunnel of Nissan Stadium, you're gonna have eight people 364 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: packed on the line of scrimmage. It doesn't matter. It's 365 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen again this weekend. We've got to get our 366 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: vertical stretch game going. And that doesn't mean just all 367 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: the takeoff routes. I mean, you saw Malik throw some 368 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: really nice takeoff routes in that game against Kansas City 369 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: that weren't caught, but he threw them and dropped them 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: where they need to be. But you've got to be 371 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: able to back a defense off. There's three layers of defense. 372 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: There's the front line, depending on how many people they 373 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: want to put up there. There's a second level, it's 374 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: either linebackers or safeties depending on where they're dropped out, 375 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: and then it's the back end. But if you can 376 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: vertically stretch an offense, that opens up so much more 377 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: for you. Inside goes to Amy's tight ends. Working between 378 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: the numbers opens up when you vertically stretch people. We 379 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: need our vertical stretch game to get a little bit better. 380 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because the majority of our conversation 381 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: so far has been about offense. The defense is statistically 382 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: middle of the pack, but it really doesn't matter because 383 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: they are now being mentioned with the best defenses in 384 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: the NFL in spite of the stats. Couch back to 385 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: start with you, what is it about what this defense 386 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: is doing right now that's making it tough on opponents? Well, 387 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: here's why football people are talking about this defense even 388 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: though the numbers don't say and look, yardage, guys. Yardage 389 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: can be very deceptive anymore, especially the way things are. 390 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: When I first started coaching, you know, a lot of 391 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: years ago with the Bears, we had a goal to 392 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: hold teams to seventeen points or less, and we would 393 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: do that twelve thirteen, fourteen games a year. That's hard, 394 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: hard to do Now, you can't do that anymore. That's 395 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: not what that's not how this game has evolved. But 396 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: the thing about this defense is, and people involved in football, 397 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: and you guys are sophisticated fans, you know this. When 398 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: you're not getting a lot of separation of score as 399 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Amy talks about from your offense, and you're still able 400 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: to hold in the game and still be able to 401 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: flip the field, you know, which our punter has done 402 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: a great job of. But you're able to go in 403 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: there if a turnover and do what we call sudden change, 404 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: give the ball back to your offense. They've done that 405 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: repeatedly for eight weeks. That's when you start looking at 406 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: a defense saying this defense has a real backbone to 407 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: them because they're being put in some really tough situations 408 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: and they're flipping the script back at least in a 409 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: favorable way. And so they here's what they really do well. 410 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: They're really tough. They're a really tough, physical team, and 411 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: they don't mind, they don't mind standing in the middle 412 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: of the ring and punching you in the face and 413 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: taking some punches for four quarters. That's what everybody appreciates 414 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: from them, and that's why people are beginning to acknowledge 415 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: what they are it. Coach Max righte about all of 416 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that as it usually is, but you're right on the 417 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: My point would have been the physicality of this defense, 418 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: the toughness. I mean, all y'all saw it the other night, 419 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: this defense, including the penalties, thanks Cleet Blakeman a hundred snaps. 420 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Some of these guys played, I mean gave every single 421 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: thing they had, and you're right, they just out physical guys. 422 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: They will actually literally beat you up. And that's the 423 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: thing that you can't put on a stat sheet. You 424 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: just can't. They'll just pummel you. It's a bend but 425 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: break mentality that I think has started at the very 426 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: top with some of the leaders on the defense, you know, 427 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Simmons, the Kevin Byards, those guys, and has 428 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: trickled all the way down. I mean, there is no 429 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: quit in those guys. And it's fun to watch them 430 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: play because because they're so tough and so physical. But 431 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: I would guess it is really not fun to play 432 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: against them because they will just out muscle you until 433 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: you cry uncle, which is what we've seen. Opposing offensive 434 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: lines especially has happened time and time again. They just 435 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. And for us to have guys 436 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: who are that ferocious and who have a motor like 437 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: that that can keep going even into the fourth quarter, 438 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: it speaks tremendously to how they take care of their bodies, 439 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: the way that they're coached, the just endurance that they 440 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: have to be able to play at such a high 441 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: level for four quarters. They can take some punches, but 442 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: they can give them back with the same level of 443 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: intensity throughout the entire game. And I think that that 444 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: is something that not every defense has in its entirety. 445 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: One amazing stat about the Titans defense is they are 446 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: blitzing less than any team in the league because they 447 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: are actually getting more pressure with a four man rush 448 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: than any team in the league. Coach, why are they 449 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: getting so much pressure with a four man rush? Because 450 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: they got dudes? And that's and that's and that well, 451 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it. Look, I first came into the 452 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: league and we had five Hall of Famers on the 453 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: Chicago Bear team. You think we were any good? And 454 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: I knew when I came in. I was really young. 455 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: I was very young. I knew nothing about it, all right, 456 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: and after one season just coaching those guys, I'm lecturing 457 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: all over the country on defensive play because of I 458 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: had dudes all right now, and that's doing it without 459 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: Harold Landry. But they've they've had some guys really step up. 460 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: And if you can rush with four in this league 461 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: and cover with seven, As a former defensive coordinator, I'm 462 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: telling you life is good if you can do that, 463 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: because there's so many iterations of coverages that you can 464 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: can work against an opponent. You saw it last week 465 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: against Kansas City, that the way they were working disguising coverages. 466 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: But when you can rush with four, it's because they've 467 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: got guys that understand. Our defensive line coach have already mentioned, 468 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: I think does a tremendous job technique wise. They run 469 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: really well coordinated games. And plus you've got they've got 470 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: we've got about six or seven guys that are in 471 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: a rotation in there that are really nasty dudes, I mean, 472 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and that's what you have to be. You have to 473 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: be nasty to play that position. Coach, explain games, if 474 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: you would please, What does that mean in terms of 475 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: the defensive line. If we're the four defensive lineman up here. Okay, 476 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: on the right end, Amy's Jeffrey Simmons, Retz, Tier Tart, 477 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: Mike's bud Dupree, and I'm just anybody they put in. Okay, Now, 478 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: if you're the offense out there and you and we 479 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: want to run a game, we were going to run 480 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: a te stunt because we think we can really work 481 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: this guarden this tackle here. Amy will give me a signal. 482 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: She will, thanks Amy, she will. She will take an 483 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: outside shot to the outside shoulder to try to get 484 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: the garden the tackle to go with her. I'll take 485 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: a couple of steps up field to draw the tie, 486 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to loop around as tight as 487 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: I can around her. And on the other side, on 488 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: the other side, Tier Tart over here is working the 489 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: center so he can't come back to block me as 490 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: I come around, and the edge player over there, bud Dupree, 491 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: he's screaming around the edge so that they can't get 492 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: any help from the other side. And then now we 493 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: can run to et. So I'll give Amy a signal. 494 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll start up the field, go underneath, she'll start, She'll 495 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: wrap around, and they do it. They can do all 496 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: four at once. They can do one side or the other. 497 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: They can change their alignment. We can line up real wide. 498 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: I'd slide this chair a little wider, but i'd fall 499 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: off the stage and can real wide to stretch them out, 500 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: all right, And then they'll work the edge the edge 501 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: on a offensive lineman one on one. They do it 502 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: so well, and they coordinate it so well. Comes with 503 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot of film study two you've got. Are those 504 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: called by the coaches or do they do them themselves? 505 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: A lot of it, A lot of it is called. 506 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: But they have the ability to change it depending on 507 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 1: what the set is that they see, what's upfront. I mean, 508 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: they have the ability to change that. And here's the 509 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: other thing that's true. When you're studying tape, I mean, 510 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: I want to be sure I can see everyone. When 511 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: you're studying tape, all offensive lines, guys have at least 512 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: one pigeon, okay, that you know you can work one 513 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: on one. If you got two, you've got a great chance. 514 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: If you've got three that are just highway cones, you're 515 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a great day, okay. And so but you 516 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: study that, you study that who you can work and 517 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: who you can go against, and what you and so 518 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: all of that comes with study, and then they work 519 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: it in practice and then you can see it in 520 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: the games. I mean, as I said, I get to 521 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: watch practice every day, so I know who they're going 522 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: to pick on. I know how they're going to work. 523 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: But to make it work in the ball game, it's 524 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: really really special. That's why they can do it because 525 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: they're very well coordinated, and as I said, they're doing 526 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: it without their really bad best Ed's rusher that you 527 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: know that we lost before the season even started. Kudos 528 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: to that group. But that's why this defense is playing 529 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: so well because they can rush. For Kudos to coach 530 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: Mac everybody, how about that. That's good. That's why he's 531 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: so great on Titans Radio. Now we're gonna we're gonna 532 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: go for a real little Russell Wilson knowledge, because when 533 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: you were with the Rams, you were in the same 534 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: division with Russell Wilson. You saw him probably ten times total. 535 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: What must the defense do to handle Russell Wilson? Well, yeah, 536 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: when we went to I went to the Rams with 537 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, we're still in Saint Louis. We built a 538 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: defense to stop him in Seattle. Because that's what you 539 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: have to do. You have to be able to get 540 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: your roster to beat the best team, and they were. 541 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes was Patrick Mahomes. 542 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: His off schedule plays are dangerous. I mean, and this guy, 543 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: plus he's got a really, really good arm. I mean, 544 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: he's got a major league arm. This guy can throw 545 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: off platform, and off platform means he doesn't have to 546 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: be both feet on the ground picture perfect form. He 547 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: can throw off platform to any area of the field. 548 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: But his off schedule plays and his ability to run 549 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: are a real problem because then what has to happen. 550 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: It becomes just like playing laser tag with your little 551 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: brother in the backyard. If you're faster than he is, 552 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: no matter what you run, he can't touch you. So 553 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: in the back end when he starts moving, So it's 554 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna be really important. We talk about this defensive line. 555 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: We always had a plan when we played Russell Wilson 556 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: to cage rush him and cage rushes, or you take 557 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: your two outside men and you squeeze the pocket. You 558 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: don't run past the depth of the quarterback because that 559 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: gives him another gap, and then you have your two 560 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: interior people. So you've got four people and you've got 561 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: five linemen, so one of those interior people has to 562 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: be able to cover two gaps. So there's not a 563 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: place for a quarterback to step up. So the most 564 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: important thing is cage rush this dude. Don't let him 565 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: get outside, don't let him escape to his throwing hand, 566 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: which is his right hand. And then you've got a 567 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: plaster in the backfield, which means once he starts moving, 568 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: everybody's in man to man. They did a tremendous job 569 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: last Sunday night against Kansas City of plastering coverage, a 570 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: tremendous job, the best anybody's done, because they had no 571 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: explosive plays, you know, throwing the football, but Russell Wilson 572 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: can't let him get out and start playing holly gully 573 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: football outside the pocket. Broncos have one of the best 574 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL. They're giving up one hundred twenty 575 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: three yards rushing per game, but only one hundred sixty 576 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: six yards passing. They traded their best player to Miami 577 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: last week during their bye week, Bradley Chubb, and yet 578 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: they've still got several good pass rushers. So what or 579 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: who stands out to you as you've begun studying the 580 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Broncos defense. I'm gonna do an Amy Wells here because 581 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I can, because she's my friend. Three levels. I'm gonna 582 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: give you their defensive front, Draymont Jones from Ohio State. 583 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Five and a half sacks, five and a half sacks, 584 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: third round pick. This guy's really coming into his own. 585 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: Really a good player that you watch. Lex Singleton is 586 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: a linebacker that's from Montana State. Was a number one 587 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: pick in the CFL. Then the Seahawks drafted him in 588 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the seventh round. All he's done is lead the team 589 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: in tackles. Really a smart guy. And then in the 590 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: back end a guy that everybody's familiar with here in 591 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference. Patrick's retained. The second is a tremendous, 592 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: tremendous corner that can He's a true lockdown corner out there. 593 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: And then I got to give kudos to their young 594 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator at Jero Echero. This guy has been in 595 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: the league for fourteen years. You know, came up, was 596 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: a defensive quality control guy with the Tampa Bay Bucks 597 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: and has worked he's most recently with the Rams. Really smart, 598 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: really smart, does a nice job of dissecting offenses. And 599 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: so they've got really good coaching and that again, you're 600 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna hear me say it a lot. You'll hear me 601 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: say it on Sunday on the radio. They got dudes 602 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: at every level that can make place. They are going 603 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: to be a hard nut to crack on Sunday here 604 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium because you feel like amy their offense 605 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: is getting better. Russell Wilson is getting used to the 606 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett system, and they know they've added some more pieces. 607 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: They've certainly got receivers. The defense has been double tough 608 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: all year. The Titans are going to have to be 609 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: on point because the Broncos feel like a three and 610 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: five team that could elevate during their last nine games. 611 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: And that's what makes November and December football so much 612 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: fun is that this is the time that some of 613 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: those teams that maybe have had a down start, or 614 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: that had a brand new quarterback to their system, or 615 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: who had some sort of offseason changes, now they're starting 616 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: to find their footing. So this is a chance for 617 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in these next two months to 618 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: kind of take off and start to make those pushes 619 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: towards the playoffs. For the Tennessee Titans. It's fun because 620 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna start to see some good games, and you're 621 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: gonna start to see some real talent coming in. And 622 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: this team is also one that has found its footing 623 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: and really has the opportunity to take off and has 624 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: the cushion of being pretty successful in the first half 625 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: of the season. So November football is in December football 626 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: is better than all other football in the world for 627 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: that reason. And I'm excited to see this game on Sunday. 628 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: When it's two teams that I think are pretty well 629 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: matched going up against each other, I think it's going 630 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun. Their offense hasn't found 631 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: its rhythm yet, and that's what we hope doesn't happen 632 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday at all in a couple of weeks to 633 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, because he's got weapons Courtland Sutton, kJ Hamler, 634 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy at wide receiver. They have a rookie tight 635 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: end Greg Dulsi's from UCLA who's really starting to emerge. 636 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: That game two weeks ago in London, four catches for 637 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: eighty seven yards. He's becoming a target for Russell Wilson. 638 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: But where the Titans defense can do it right, and 639 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: coach Max laid it out with Kage Rushing. They're down 640 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: to their third different starting left tackle, their second now 641 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: center because Lloyd Cushionburry, their starting centers on injured reserve, 642 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: and their backup right tackle. He's been sacked twenty three 643 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: times a this season. That's what the Titans have got 644 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: to do is get him on the ground. All right. 645 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: So let's do a little NFL talk here. Which of 646 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: these is the most interesting story to you that you 647 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: will be following during the second half of the season. 648 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: A Jeff Saturday becoming coach of the Indianapolis Colts with 649 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: no previous coaching experience. B Deshaun Watson returning from suspension 650 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: to quarterback to Cleveland Browns for the final six games 651 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: of the year. Or see everything going on with Tom 652 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: Brady and Tampa Bay. Well all of those are fun. Yeah, 653 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: well that's why I picked him. So which which one 654 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: will you follow the most closely? Oh? Definitely Jeff Saturday 655 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: being the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts, because what 656 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: in the world, I mean, he's a very nice man. 657 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: Were you there with him? Which I was not? He 658 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: was not there. He was there with mister Earsay. I 659 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: did work with mister Earsay. Yep, I sure did so. 660 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: Behind the curtain. I had texted Amy when they announced 661 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: they fired Frank Reich, and I said, because they did 662 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: not announce a successor immediately. Usually you say Jim Smith 663 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: has been fired as the head coach and Bob Williams 664 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: will become the interim It's in the same sentence. It's 665 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: in the same sentence with a comma, right, But there 666 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: was no second part of the sentence. So I texted 667 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: Amy and I said, do you think since they didn't 668 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: name anybody, that they might put Chuck Bagano, their former 669 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: coach who the owner loves, back in as the interim 670 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: head coach, to which you responded, I said, doesn't seem likely. 671 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: They've got so many people with head coaching experience on staff, 672 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: but who knows. Anything's possible. Nothing would surprise me, And 673 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: then they surprised me. I mean, Jeff Saturday be a 674 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: nice man, has no coaching experience, he's coached in high school, 675 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: but I don't even think he was a head coach Georgia. Yeah, 676 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that's fantastic, did a great job, 677 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: but there is so much that goes into being a 678 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: head coach, that is beyond just being a good former 679 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: NFL head coach. Sitting Mike, I was just about to well, no, 680 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to take a sip of coke zero. Alright, 681 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to take it. But I was going 682 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: to ask. I mean, Mac, we talk about this all 683 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: the time, to the point where we'll be like, well, 684 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: a guy, he was a good coordinator, but he wasn't 685 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: a great head coach. Or oh, he was a great 686 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: position coach, but he might not be a great coordinator. 687 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: There's so many other things that go into it beyond 688 00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: just Ex's nose. Right, Well, there's some unusual things. I've 689 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: been in this league for thirty seven years straight, so 690 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: I've been I was a head coach for six hours 691 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: and didn't know it for three at the Chicago Bears. Okay, 692 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: let's start with Let's start with that story. And I 693 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: worked really hard to get my first interview. I was 694 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: in the league twelve years before Tom Benson interviewed me 695 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: at the New Orleans Saints. So clearly, you don't have 696 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: to do anything to be a head coach in this league. 697 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean really, seriously, we may have several head coaches 698 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: sitting out here at these tables right now. I mean, 699 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: that was a while and I'm let me just give 700 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: you my thoughts on this, and I'm sure all of 701 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: you were aware of. I mean, mister Ersay lost his 702 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: mind last year when they got beat by Jacksonville. I 703 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen it, but there's a rant 704 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: that he made when his private plane jets were going 705 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: on the tarmac that this is not going to happen. 706 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: We've got to beat the Titans. We've got to get 707 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: we've got to get tough. We can't be scared. This 708 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: will never happen again. And then fast forward to this 709 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: season that we've all experienced together and the Titans sweep them, 710 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: the Titans sweep him, and all of a sudden, now 711 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: they're they're they're firing, they're firing their quarterback that they 712 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: traded one away that they didn't like, bring Matt Ryan in, 713 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they don't like him. Frank 714 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: all see, I think the Titans sweeping them this year 715 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: broke them. I mean, we broke them, all right, And 716 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: so it doesn't bother me. All right, Well, let me 717 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: take one thing seriously, though, if if you're sitting where 718 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday is right now in that seat, and you're 719 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: preparing to play Las Vegas this weekend. What's the first 720 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: thing he has to get his arms around. Well, let's 721 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: get this on Jeff Saturday. Though, he was a really 722 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: good player in this Yeah, and he's really smart and 723 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: a really smart and a really smart guy. He Look, 724 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: he's got he's got guys on his staff and have 725 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: been head coaches. He's got Gus Bradley there, he's got 726 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: John Fox there. They will all help him. It's not 727 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: gonna be on Jeff Saturday. Let's get that out there. 728 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be on Jeff Saturday. He'll He'll have 729 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: to he's got to get he's got to get a 730 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, a line of authority established pretty quick as 731 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: far as to what he wants to do. Who's gonna 732 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: call his place, who's going. But the basic thing that 733 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: he's got to do is he's got to rally the troops. 734 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: He's got to let his he's got to let his 735 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: coaches coach. They've got good coaches up there. I'm just 736 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: telling you, he's got to let his coaches coach. What 737 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: he's I've been an interim head coach in my career too. 738 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: It's not easy, all right, and it's really not easy 739 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: if it's if it's made during the middle of the season, 740 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: which I did also. Okay, So the first thing you 741 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 1: have to do, you him, Jeff Saturday, coach, Mike whoever 742 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: the inner have head coaches. Your job is to get 743 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: the mindset of that locker room right. Let your coaches coach. 744 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: Let your coaches coach. And they've already been working on 745 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: game plans. You're not going to be involved in that. 746 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: You've got to be the mentality and you've got to 747 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: you have got to be the vibe coach. That's what 748 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: you've got to be. And you've got to get your 749 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: locker room right because the make no mistake about it, 750 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: they've got good players up there. They just hit a 751 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: rough patch that sent the owner over the rails. Okay, 752 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: So Jeff Saturday, get the locker room straight. Let your 753 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: coaches coach. That's his job, all right. Red. I've got 754 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: a theory on the Jeff Saturday hire. Okay. I think 755 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: that mister Earsay is so consumed with the Titans that 756 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: he just thinks he hired his Mike Vrabel. Well, because 757 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: he that he thinks he's hired this guy who relates. 758 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: He sees Vrabel here, and let's face it, nobody in 759 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: the NFL has players that play for him like Mike 760 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: Vrabel's players play for him. He is absolutely in touch 761 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: with his guys. They enjoy playing for him, they believe 762 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: in the message. I think that's what he thinks he's hired. 763 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: He's forgetting the fact, quite possibly that Mike coached at 764 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: Ohio State, that he was an assistant with the you know, 765 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: with the Texans, that he was a coordinator, and now 766 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: he's been the head coach five years. He's kind of 767 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: forgetting all that. But he's just thinking Jeff Saturday was 768 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: to the Colts in that era what Mike Vrabel was 769 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: to the Patriots. So I've just hired my Mike Vrabel. 770 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: I buy your theory, and I'll tell you why if 771 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: we rewind to twenty eighteen. First of all, all the 772 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: hoot coaching hires in twenty eighteen have all been fired 773 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,959 Speaker 1: except for Mike Vrabel, who is coach of the year 774 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: to division championships. As we have seen multiple appearances of 775 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs winning seasons, and if you'll remember Mike Vrabel 776 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: interviewed for the head coaching job for the Indianapolis Colts 777 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. They tabbed their guy to be Josh McDaniels, 778 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: who stood them up and left them at the altar, 779 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: and by the time they got back to Mike Rabel, 780 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: he was signing paperwork to be the head coach of 781 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: your Tennessee Titans. Mike Rabel's the one that got away well, 782 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: and then they ended up with Frank Reich as sort 783 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: of the yes, second choice. And look who they're playing 784 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: this week. They're playing Josh McDaniel's team bingo kind of ironic. 785 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: So what do you think? What do you think about 786 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: that theory? Amy Wills Mike, I really like that theory. 787 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: Thank you. That's really good. I mean, that's strong. And 788 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: I think that what he's looking for more than anything 789 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: is someone who can who a he trusts because he 790 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: has a very small circle anyway, So he wants one 791 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: of his guys in there who he has a direct 792 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: line to, and someone who he feels can rally the troops. 793 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, realistically, of all people who could walk 794 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: in and really get in with the guys and really 795 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: rally a locker room Jeff Saturday might be the one 796 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: to do that. Well, that's why I said, that's his job, yeah, 797 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: and so it's why is there. I think that from 798 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: that respect, I can see the line kind of, but 799 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: from a logistic perspective, from an actual X is an 800 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: o's perspective, in some of the subsequent moves that they've made, 801 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: I see this being a little chaotic. So I think 802 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: the locker room might be there, but there still might 803 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: be a little confusion day to day. I see your 804 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: chaos one hundred percent because I just look at the 805 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: young man who's going to be calling the plays for them, 806 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: Parks Frasier, thirty years old, and they were like, who 807 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: is Parks Frasier? Good? I'm with you. I didn't know 808 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 1: until I read up on him last night. He was 809 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback at Murray State just up the road. He 810 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: was an assistant coach for Rick Stockstale with MTSU just 811 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: a few seasons ago. I don't know. I mean, I 812 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: saw Front Office Sports post basically his LinkedIn review and 813 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: his you know LinkedIn page. This guy's gonna be in 814 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 1: for just a crazy week, I mean. And Sam Ellinger 815 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,800 Speaker 1: is a second year quarterback who was sacked nine times 816 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: last week. I mean, you talk about chaos. Coach I 817 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: wondered if they wouldn't let Matt Ryan call the plays. Well, 818 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: let me say this though, everybody up there, Jeff Saturday 819 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: and all of those coaches and really the players, now 820 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: they're playing with house money. All the pressure is off. 821 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: There is no pressure on anybody. That's true. They're playing 822 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: with house money right now. So are they dangerous or 823 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: in retreat? Well, they're NFL players. Still, Hey, look we 824 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: beat them twice. We know how good those players are. 825 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: And they've got they've got legitimate, legitimate dudes. And so 826 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: to me, Jeff Saturday can rally the troops and really, 827 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, calling the plays, you know that'll be. They 828 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: just have to get everybody on the same wavelength as 829 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: to what they're doing, because it has been nothing but chaos. 830 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: And I go back to my original statement. The thing 831 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: that started the crack in this wall, the big crack, 832 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: the Titan sweeping them. If Coach Saturday, which feels like 833 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: King Friday, if Coach Saturday can get that locker room 834 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: on board with him, they're dangerous. If some of those 835 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: guys start to kind of check out, because this seems 836 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: nutso um, then they're mailing it in. I wonder rafting high. 837 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: I wonder about coaches checking out, Yeah, I mean having 838 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: been passed over, and yeah it's possible. Final thoughts, Rhet. 839 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: My final thought is this, I am honored to be 840 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: in front of every one of you today and to 841 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: be up here with this panel you. Every one of 842 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: you understand the word sacrifice and we wouldn't be sitting 843 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 1: up here if it wasn't for your service to our country. 844 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: And I am forever indebted to you. I cannot repay 845 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: you enough for what you've already done, and I appreciate 846 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: you being here today. Outstanding Final thought, Rehet Brian, amy Wells, 847 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Coach Mack, thank you all for being here and thank 848 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: you for your support of our Tennessee Titans. Let's go 849 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: Pete Broncos on Sunday. Tighten up, everybody, Coach Dave McGinnis, 850 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: Amy Wells, and Rhet Bryan at the Salute to Service 851 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 1: Military appreciation luncheon for Titan season ticket members who had 852 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: served in the military. Great day. 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We look forward 870 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: to having you join us next time for the o 871 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: T He Welcome to the Big Show where the legends 872 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: called I never bought an to our house, fighting for 873 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 1: Tennessee making history. Greenness is meant to be