1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: All right, hello again everybody, and welcome to Big Blue 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live, brought to you by Corps Light. As always 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: right here on giants dot Com. I am Russ Salzburg, 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: joined today by my colleague two times Super Bowl champion 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: David Deal, the lovely Mackenzie Ingram across the way at 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: the controls and you there, um gonna be picking up 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: the phone and giving us a call at two zero 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: one four five one three. I just got out of 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: the locker room, and you know what you tell me 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: as a former player, Ain't nothing beats a win to 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: get the monkey off your back, especially when you're feeling 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: like you've got a circle the wagons and everybody wants 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: the whole. It's a whole different feeling to the week, 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: is it. What do I always say, Vitamin w Winning 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: cures a lot of things, and it's a lot better 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: sitting here with the outlook of one and two than 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: sitting obviously oh and three and all the pressure in 18 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: the world on top of you. But you have to 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: give this team a lot of credit for the way 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: that they handled themselves, the way that they were down 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: to ten with their backs up against the wall, handling 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: the adversity on the road and making the adjustments necessary 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: to get their first win, but more importantly, earned their 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: first win of the season. Excuse me, you got my iPad? 25 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: My dear? Did they not send set us up with 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: the phones? What a jerk? Who's in charge? I don't 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: know either way. We'll be able to do it. We'll 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: figure It'll be able to figure it out. But just 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: give them a hello and a goodbye. And in the meantime, again, 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: trust me, folks will be taking your phone calls to zero. 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: Their show the shows for them. Yes it is. Um. 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I saw you after the game on the post game 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: and I it's like how I felt at home, just 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: the feeling everybody was just fired up. You know, it's 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: you come in on a Monday morning and you know 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: you breathe it easier. You did it as a players. 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about without a doubt. I mean, 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: it's it's great to go out there win a game 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and see all the hard work that you put in 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: come to fruition in that game, and then the outlook 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: of it when you're sitting there victorious at the end 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: as that field goal goes wide right for them and 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: you get to enjoy the moment and you're weak and 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: and enjoy this week because it gives you the outlook 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: of hope and what to look forward to. Because that's 46 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: what happened in that football game, Like I said, being 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: down ten, the adjustments made on the offensive side of 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: the ball to come out the gates swinging with the 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: big Evan Ingram seventy yard touchdown to really change the 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: momentum of that game. The defensive philosophy, you know, playing 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: more zone demand, which obviously confused Jamis Winston a lot. 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Getting three three and uh three uh punts in a 53 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: row by the defensive side of the ball. What more 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: can you ask for in a game where you were 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: pretty much had everything go wrong in the first half. 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: So I think it's a true sign of what this 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: team is capable of doing when they collectively come together 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: and play together in harmony all sides in all phases, offense, defense, 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: and special teams. Well, I'm glad you brought that up, 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: because the special teams really have been doing a hell 61 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: of a job, you know, for the three games. Special 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: teams have been getting it done. But you know, and 63 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, no if ens and butts about it. 64 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: Daniel and he was named the NFC offensive player that 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: he deserved all the glory from last week. However, I 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: think a little bit lost in the shuffle uh out 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: in the public. There were a lot of improvements on 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: other in other areas, in particular in the second half. 69 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: You know a kid who was getting roasted and toasted 70 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: and picked on DeAndre Baker much much better, you agree, 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: I agree, much much better. Another guy who I'm not 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: saying he was getting roasted and toasted, but questions about 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: him and who he is and what Dexter Lawrence, Well, 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: you know Dexter Lawrence had pressures, he had a sack, 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: but nobody was talking about raising that big paw his 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: and block. Well, if you don't block it, it's thirty 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: two thirty two at the end of regulation without a doubt. 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: And not only that, but then also think about Marcus 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Golden having to set in this football game, and the 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: reason why they were able to apply that pressure was 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: because of the back end getting the job done in coverage. 82 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: It allowed them that extra push to get those sex 83 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: and hits on the quarterback which were cumulative in this game. 84 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: How about young Ryan Connolly, Oh Ryan Conley last week 85 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: was my pick for somebody who had to play above 86 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. He did that, those seven tackles, the way 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: that he played and his ability to step up. Not 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: only I'm just talking about the interception. Everybody knows that, 89 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: but he was the captain of the defense in the 90 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: second half when alec Ogletree went out, He's the one 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: with the green dot on his helmet, guiding and directing 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: in and out of the huddle that defense. That says 93 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: a lot about a young fifth round rookie out of 94 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: Wisconsin that it wasn't too much for him and he 95 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: was able to handle it. That's what I want to 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: ask you. I don't think people realize, you know, you 97 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: put that green sticker on your helmet. How how difficult 98 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: is that for anybody, let alone a green rookie. I mean, 99 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: it's difficult because not only are you evaluating what's taken 100 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: place in the game, but now you have to communicate 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: the call from the sidelines from what you hear in 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: your helmet and a timely fashion so that you can 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: get lined up. We talked about alignment. Assignment. That's one 104 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: of the biggest things. That's just getting everybody on the 105 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: same page, which was obviously an issue in the first 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: two games, but his ability to step up and handle 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: that role and still play the way that he did 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: says a lot about his future. And he's just like 109 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: we said, he doesn't do anything glaring. It's not anything elseide. 110 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: He just knows how to find his way to the football, 111 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: react and be a sound player. Uh. Look, I know 112 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: you as a former player. There's no player worth it 113 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: sold about anything that doesn't go into a game believing 114 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: you can win. It's just where you are in the 115 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: growth is one thing, but you still go in with 116 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: that mentality, that's your competitive nature. But having said that, 117 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: I made the comment yesterday talking with Pauli Latino, you know, 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: because cohlers were calling up and talking about you know, 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: ws and losses, and I said, you know, everybody's euphoric 120 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: over what we just saw last week, But I said, 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: this season we all you all want to win, but 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: this season can't be measured on w's. It has to 123 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: be measured on the progress that is being made that 124 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: as a player, you tell me obviously the wins and 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: losses have a big thing to do with it. You're 126 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: not downplaying that at all, but you want to see 127 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: what guys are rising up to the challenge that are 128 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: adapting and adjusting to the different schemes that you're putting 129 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: in either offensively and defensively. And how we talked about it, 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: how invaluable this experiences, having these games under your belt 131 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: as a young player, knowing what an NFL regular season 132 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: feels like that we all know bodes well for them 133 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: in their second year because they've gone through it. It 134 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: happened to me, it happens to a lot of players. 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: So the fact that they're getting this experience and played 136 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: like they did on Sunday, but which they're going to 137 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: need to continue to play. It's competitive football through four quarters. 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing that's exciting about watching Daniel Jones and 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Baker take the next step. Conny playing the way that 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: he did out of your young players, no question about it. 141 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: And now about the I pad, Yeah, we got the iPad. 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna open up the phone lines in just 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: a moment. Again, the number of the call is to 144 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: zero one nine three nine four or five one three, 145 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: And again got to remind everybody that Big Blue Kickoff 146 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Live here is brought to you by Corpse Light. If 147 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: you want to enter to win the Ultimate v I 148 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: P Game Day Experience courtesy of Course Light. You gotta 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: text v I P to nine oh four six four 150 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: for more details. That's nine oh four six four. Just 151 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: before we open up the lines, uh to me, I 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, you know, I brought this up. I 153 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: just was interviewing Evan Ingram and I brought up and 154 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: and he agree with me. There's no question about sake 155 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: on Barkley being a big time loss. We don't know 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: how long he's going to be out. Okay, it's it's 157 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: a huge loss. But having said that, and Ingram has 158 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: been talking you know here from Sterling Shepard. Quite frankly, 159 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: it's across the board in the locker room. Their attitude is, yeah, 160 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: we miss him, but it's like excuses if it loses. 161 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Next man up, let's go. Yeah. I mean, listen, that's 162 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: the one tough thing about this sport is injuries do happen. 163 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: And for se Kwon Barkley, it is a tremendous loss 164 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: for this Giant's offense and for this football team. That's 165 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: going without questions saying that you understand that he's the 166 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: best player on the football team. There's nothing wrong with 167 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: saying that. But when that does happen, there is still 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of football left to be played, and not 169 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: only are you worried about Si Kwan and his health 170 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: and your teammate, but also you need to continue to 171 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: make the progress yourself and your football team team does 172 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: to knowing that, unfortunately, he's not going to be there 173 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So now it's up to Win Goldman to 174 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: step up and earn the right that he earned to 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: be on this football team and now to be the 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: starter at the running back position. But it also makes 177 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: everybody else elevate their game as well. The quarterback, the 178 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: offensive line, the wide receivers. People don't have to do 179 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: things outside of themselves, but they've got to play a 180 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: little bit better this game across the board in order 181 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: to overcome that. Al Right, two oh one five one 182 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's open up the phone lines 183 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: with Marco in Connecticut. Hello Marco, how are we doing? 184 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Hey guys? How are you good? What's going on? Marco? 185 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: David Deal wants a giant, always a giant man. Love 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: everything you sip for as a giant, So thank you 187 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: very much much appreciate. Oh yeah, man, um, I want 188 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: to ask you guys about the defense. Uh, you talked 189 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: a little bit about it from Sunday, but specifically, David, 190 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: what what did you see the second half adjustice? What 191 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: were those second half adjustice that were made? Because you know, 192 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: everyone kind of points to Mike Evan that his um, 193 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: his everything that he did in the first half was 194 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: was reduced in the second. Was it protection that was 195 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: shaded over his way? And then I'm also curious about 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: a guy like Baker who's had a couple of that games, 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: but he's been great against Godwin And I'm so excited 198 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: now because I think, you know, if his confidence wasn't 199 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: hit for him to come back now against Washington rookie 200 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: on rookie against Terry McLaurin, I'm really excited about what 201 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: he can do. Um yeah, just break down the defense 202 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: where it's something And here's my question, is it something 203 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: that is sustainable game over game or was it really 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: just like an in game adjustment that was made. I 205 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: think the one thing that you saw more of in 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: the second half than the first half was a lot 207 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: more zone coverages, more covered to keeping everything in front 208 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: of you where it's not so much communication when you're 209 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: playing man to man. When there's a lot of crossing routes, 210 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: a deep a lot of deep seams, and a lot 211 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: of deep patterns. It's much easier when you have a 212 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: zone defense to be able to communicate across the board 213 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: and to be able to change in every once in 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: a while. Man, that was the biggest adjustment that you 215 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: saw in the second half. And that's one thing that 216 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: we knew about Jamis Winston. He's good when he can 217 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: play just pick up football and he's just looking and 218 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: scanning around the field. It's a lot different when he's 219 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: playing up against his zone defense. One guy showing one thing, 220 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: dropping the other, and you're able to play keeping the 221 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: football in front of you and basically saying you're not 222 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: gonna beat us over the top and then you're gonna 223 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: have to throw underneath or beat us by running the football. 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Simplifying it that way made the entire defense play that 225 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: much faster and that much better in the second half. 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad Marco brought up DeAndre Baker. We 227 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: had mentioned him earlier. You know, he was thrown into 228 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: the fire early, and that's part of being a rookie. 229 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: And and Pat Sherman had had told, not just me, 230 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: but he told a lot of us the kid when 231 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: they drafted him, he's got an edge to him, and 232 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: at that position, you have to you have to. He's 233 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: got that edge. And he showed me something because even 234 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: if the game won in Game two, he wasn't having 235 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: and said he knew what was being said. And you know, 236 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: fingers pointing this and that profession. He didn't hide in 237 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: the corner of any place. And I'll tell you what 238 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: he had. He had a real good second half, Yes 239 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: he did. He had a real good second half. You 240 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: could see him settling. He's up and play good sound football. 241 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: And think about it. You know, we were talking about 242 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the defense and all the different issues. The biggest play 243 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: of the game was that Michael Thomas hit that he 244 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: put on camera. Camera breaks to Michael about that was 245 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: the biggest play of the game. So when the time 246 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: came about to make that key play, it came from 247 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: that position. So those are the exciting things and and 248 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: like Marco just asked us, these are the things that 249 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna need to see for this defense to continue 250 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: to make improvements moving forward. Because now you put it 251 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: on field film and you know you're capable of doing 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: it as long as everybody's on the same page. To zero, one, five, one, 253 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's go to Myrtle Beach and 254 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: check in with Brian. Hello, Brian, you're on with Russ 255 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: and David Deal. How's it going this afternoon, gentlemen? Good, 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: how you doing? Buddy doing very well. Let the guys 257 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: brought up and started talking about progress. Uh, it's amazing 258 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: to see how on Draft Day everyone was screening it 259 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: out on the number six talking about Jones is shooting 260 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: the fact that this guy had the best pro day 261 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: rank of any prospect. And then we heard all the 262 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: up season it was just O t A. Then we 263 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: heard it was just practice as this kid was progressive. 264 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: Then it was just the preseason. Now it's just one team. 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: But the point is the hoax, the inspiration, you know, 266 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: the fact that the team was down eight team and 267 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: they could have mailed it in all into the way 268 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: they've been performing. So hey, you know, this is just 269 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: the way it is. We're not going anywhere that didn't happen, 270 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I love he like just so you 271 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: guys know, I have his jersey. I've been the bigest 272 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: Deli fan since his draft day Party. Um, I have 273 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: to say this much. I love him everything he's done 274 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: to New York. Jones were owing forty four with Eli 275 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Manning as the starting quarterback in games they were trailing 276 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: by eighteen or more points. Now with Daniel Jones just 277 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: accomplished in his first game. As great as that is 278 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: as a rookie, think of the inspiration and the hope 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: that that's going to inspire moving forward. It's no coincidence 280 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: the defense started stepping up. You have a quarterback making 281 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: plays extended, doing things you haven't seen in a while. 282 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't just excite the fans. It doesn't just excite 283 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the oldest. I mean, David, you're a player. The people 284 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: on the bench, that's what you need. That fire, that's spark, 285 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: that's the hope. Brian, I think party of problem is 286 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: you're not enthusiastic enough. But think about next to everybody, 287 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: our defense were maligned. We're gonna have another off season 288 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: of Dave Gentleman's draft fixing some of the recent pieces 289 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and mistakes we had. Plus we have a hundred million 290 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: dollars plus in free agencies. We can go get that 291 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: number one receiver, you can get a linebacker, you got it, Briant, 292 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for the call. Brian, just a 293 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: little bit fired up. Good he should be listen, there 294 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: is what look, the bandwagon is overflowing and you know 295 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: it's hysterical. Though. You think back to April, the night 296 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: of the draft when when that pick was made, they 297 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: were roasting and toasting gentleman, what the hell are you thinking? 298 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: And Daniel, who is this guy? The very sane people 299 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: were kissing his dairy air by the time O. T. A. 300 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: S came around. The thing that I liked that that 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Brian said is is that everything Daniel Jones has done 302 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: up until this point, he's checked all the boxes figure 303 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: and the draft, being able to hand the handle the criticism, 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: being able to handle all the off field stuff, to 305 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: be able to handle well it's only practice, Well it's 306 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: only mini camp. Well it's only preseason. Now you see 307 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: him playing the game, and he checked off all the 308 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: boxes of what you're looking for in a number one, 309 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: number one draft pick. Let her own a six overall 310 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: pick because all the things that he said and what 311 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: the Giants believed in him showed up in the football game. 312 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: The accuracy, the toughness, the confidence in himself, his intelligence 313 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: and his ability to play inside and within himself and 314 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: not let the moment be too big to go five 315 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: or five in the last drive with two minutes in 316 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: your first two minute drive of your career on the 317 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: road and handle it that way and cap it off 318 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: with a touchdown run. I mean, what what more can 319 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: last for? Just and and and what impressed me? And 320 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I mentioned this yesterday we were talking. If you watched 321 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Dave before the second half started, as they were getting 322 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: ready to take the field, he was running up and down. 323 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: He was on at silent like a little kid, Uh, 324 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: hyped up on too much sugar or ice beam. He 325 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: was fired up. He couldn't wait. He was chopping. And 326 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: then after they scored, everybody's on the bench and they 327 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: scanned again, he was going up to all the offensive 328 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: lineman getting go. That's a sign of a young player 329 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: that has the ability and it's not scared to lead. 330 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: And that's so awesome to see. And make no mistake 331 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: about this, folks, Uh, everybody loves Eli. Everybody loves Eli. 332 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: You've heard me say at time and again, nobody more 333 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: so than this guy because he knows him two ways. 334 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: He knows him from watching him and he knows as 335 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: being a teammate and blocking for him. And that's why 336 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: we said even the last week was tough. It's an 337 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: exciting moment for the New York Giants in the future 338 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: of this organizations transition was going to come. Eventually, Dave 339 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: Gettleman's legacy will be did he leave this organization a 340 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback? As Bill Parcels used to say, Let's not 341 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: put young Daniel in Canton just yet, but if you 342 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: ask me, he certainly has left him a franchise quarterback. 343 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Barring guff a bit injury. That's hands down the best rookie, 344 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: premier and starting game that we've seen out of a quarterback, 345 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: and within the last ten years, easily, without question. All 346 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: right to a one three is the number. Let's go 347 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: to Syracuse and check in with Chris. Hello, Chris, you're 348 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: on with Russ and Dave. You good? How you doing? Oh? 349 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: They're exciting, exciting. So a couple of quick things, um, 350 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: you know, for a little while there during the third 351 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: I think it was in the third quarter of the 352 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I'm not sure. I just watched the game 353 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: the one time I haven't had time to go back 354 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: and watch it. Um, they were getting a lot of 355 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: pressure Jones. A couple of times I thought he held 356 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: the ball a little long, but there was a lot 357 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: of times pocket was collapsing pretty quickly, and um, for 358 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the game, it seemed pretty good. So 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could give me just a 360 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: little bit of your analysis on that, David, and then 361 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: be as much as I'm been full blown love with 362 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, the one thing about him that makes me 363 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: a little bit nervous is that he just doesn't seem 364 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: to feel the rush all that well. And I'm not 365 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: worried about him getting hurt outside the pocket. And it's 366 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: impressive that he's got guys draped all over him, his 367 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: eyes are locked in downfield, and he's not rattled at all. 368 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: I think all that's great, but it did take some 369 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: big hits. Yeah, yeah, what you think about that? You know, 370 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: obviously that's something that the offensive line is going to 371 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: adjust and obviously make the improvements understanding what type of 372 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: quarterback he is and what he's capable of when you 373 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: do give him time. Because once again, and looking at 374 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: that game, when he had time, he was going through 375 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: every single progression and nosing is smart enough where to 376 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: go with the football and how to read the coverages 377 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: when he had that time. Yes, you don't want those 378 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: big hits and to have those fumbles like we saw 379 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: in this pass game. But the thing that you know 380 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: that they'll be able to do moving forward, which you 381 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: know that they'll have to without, say Kwon Barkley, is 382 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna move the pocket a lot more. They're gonna 383 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: change the launch point with Daniel Jones where they can 384 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: have run zone schemes off of the inside but then 385 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: run bootlegs and nakeds off of them. So it we 386 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: always say make it look and sound like run when 387 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: you're going to play action. So I think once they 388 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: start doing that, and once Pat Shermer starts dialing in 389 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: game plans that are more towards and tailored since it's 390 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: after the first week for Daniel Jones, I think that's 391 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: where you'll see a lot more of those plays come 392 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: up in this game and moving forward against the Skins. Okay, 393 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones to zero one five 394 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: three is the numb Okay, Chris, thank you, buddy. Let's 395 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: check in with Joe in Pennsylvania. Hello, Joe, how are 396 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: we doing today? Hey, wonderful? Like Like you said, what 397 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: a difference win makes, you know what I mean? Right 398 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: in and I'm here in the Eagle Country, I hear 399 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: a lot of them and with their one and to 400 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: start and having to go to Green Bay tomorrow night, 401 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they're pointing fingers at one 402 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: another and banged up, and the Redskins are coming in 403 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: and I guess they're gonna be uh do or die 404 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: for them. They're gonna put it, put it all out there, 405 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: not only for them but for their coach too. Right. So, 406 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, I think we have 407 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: a little extra skip in our step, you know, not 408 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: a little excuse me, Joe, not a little, You've got 409 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: a whole lot of extra getting up in the step. 410 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I would expect MetLife Stadium to be rocking 411 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: absolutely with enthusiasm. First of all, you got a w 412 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: but you know the whole thing with with Daniel Jones 413 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: and you're coming, Oh my goodness. I mean, I think 414 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: the place is going to be absolutely ready to explode, 415 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: right And all the rookies there that we drafted there, 416 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they're at it a little 417 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: something there what's this thing on Latimer. I didn't hear anything, 418 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: is or a chance for him to play or no? Um, 419 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: I haven't heard yet. Yeah, he was in last week, 420 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: it was still the concussion protocol. So I mean that's 421 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: that's something that we'll find out more this week and 422 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: after today to see if he was able. Like last week, 423 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: we had a little bit more of a detailed because 424 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: at this time last week we knew that Sterling Shepard 425 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: was going through the jock through and going through some 426 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: stuff until they passed him on Thursday. So that's one 427 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: thing that we'll have to see moving forward here. But 428 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: as if yet, they haven't announced anything. Just just since 429 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: you bring it up, Joe, Uh, you know, keep you on. 430 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: But uh, it was announced, Uh you know today's injury list. 431 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: Barkleyoff obviously didn't play, Ty Davis, Uh, hey Davis didn't Um, 432 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: they didn't participate. Barkley Davis with a concussion, Oakle Tree 433 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: with the hamstring, and Russell Shepard with a foot. Uh. 434 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Coach Sherman mentioned on Monday, I think the foot might 435 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: be a little more I'm not saying it's cautious, yeah, 436 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: but a little more than they thought it might have 437 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: been and Lorenzo Carter uh limited with an elbow and 438 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: follow with a hamstring. Yeah, well, well hopefully whatever whoever 439 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: we have in there can come through. Uh. I am 440 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: one thing I guess I have to mention two as 441 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: very upset when they let Paul Perkins go. You know, um, 442 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I almost thought that he almost you know, he was 443 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: down to the wire between him and Goldman winning the 444 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: job there. So but yeah, you can't keep everybody. I 445 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: guess they're doing a you know, hinds. Hindsight is you know, 446 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: thank you for the call, Joe. Listen. If they would 447 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: have known that this was going to happen, the Barkley 448 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: chances so he'd still be a New York Giant in 449 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: instead of a Detroit Lion. But that's the way it is. 450 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: I will disagree with Joe on and listen. Big fan 451 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: of Paul Perkins. The guy was here by his lonesome 452 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: last year. Westability is availability though, that's where you're going, 453 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: and that's exactly right. High expectations with him coming in 454 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: as well. But you know, when you're you're the running back, 455 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: whether you're the second or third string running back, they 456 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: have to be dependable on you to be able to 457 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: be physically ready for a sixteen week season and throughout 458 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: the preseason. Granted it was back and forth between him 459 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: and Goldman, but I think that he did have a 460 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: couple more mental aris in Goldman. That's exactly right. All right, 461 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: back to the lines we go, Bob in uh in 462 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Hey, Bob, how are you doing? Okay? How 463 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: are you guys? Good? What's up? Bobby? Um day? Thank 464 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: you for the Super Bowls that you participated in. I 465 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: really appreciate. I've been a Giant Giant fan for fifty years. 466 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Bob, my first time caller. Um My, my concern 467 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: is the defense. Um, he's given up a lot of 468 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: points in three games. Yeah, and uh, I was at 469 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: the Buffalo game in the stands, and I'll tell you 470 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: the truth. I never saw a receiver so wide open 471 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: in my whole hype as what I saw on the 472 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Giant defense. And um, I'm sorry to be negative about it, 473 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: but Bob, it's not it's not being negative. But listen 474 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: that that was no secret. We were talking about that everything. 475 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: That was the talk for two and a half games, 476 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: quite frankly, and then it tightened up this second half 477 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: of this last game. Yeah. Granted there were still the 478 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: big play obviously the Evans that could have cost the game, 479 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: but it didn't with the miss uh field goal. But 480 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: that is something that it was at least a bright 481 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: sign that the defense could make the adjustments and play 482 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot better than they did in 483 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: the first half of the game and in the first 484 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: two games. Now they need to use that momentum and 485 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: the success that they had and what was working, what 486 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: wasn't working for him and implemented and get that are 487 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: moving forward. Like we said, it's not gonna happen overnight 488 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden it's just gonna be a 489 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: lights out defense. But as long as we continue to 490 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: see the progress, especially this week after we saw what 491 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: they were capable of doing one all on the same page, 492 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: that's all you can ask for. You know, David brought 493 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: it up earlier the the you're talking about a the 494 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: great played that Michael Thomas. Okay, what was the criticism 495 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: for the last couple of years about the defense. They 496 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: could make a stop when they needed to make a stop. 497 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the last at the 498 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: end of last season, Bob, you were talking about the 499 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: offense was scoring points. They defense couldn't make a stop. 500 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: And this was one of the ones that Tampa Bay 501 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: game that they gave up the field goal at the 502 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: end of lose it right, and this as soon as 503 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas made that stop, I said, maybe the tide 504 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: is turning, maybe things changed it because that was the play. 505 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: I mean, without that play, we're not here talking about 506 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: a victory. You know, you guys know more than me. 507 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: I met that for sure. But the last two games, 508 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: You're right, the first half have been terrible. The second 509 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: half the defense tightens up. So I just wanted to 510 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: know what what makes that happen exactly? Well, I think 511 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: the adjustments that they made in game at halftime and 512 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: then the second half going more to the zone demand 513 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: and adjusting to the way that they were trying to play, 514 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: which caused confusion for Jamis Winston. And that's why I 515 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: said this week is a big week because number one, 516 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: we saw it on film and they'll see it on film. 517 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: What they're capable of doing when everybody plays together and 518 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: does their job and doesn't do too much outside of 519 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: themselves and overthink something and to starting fast. They need 520 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: to start fast in this game because They always say, 521 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: when you have an opportunity at home to start fast 522 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: with the team that's coming off of a tough loss 523 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: like they just had on a short week on Monday 524 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: night football, you create that little bit of doubt in 525 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: their brains. Yeah, and I think you would agree, Dave. 526 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it's so much X and O scientific 527 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: about why they were struggles or even in the first 528 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: half and better than the second half. You're talking about 529 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: a young defense and correcting certain things and making certain adjustments. 530 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: And we were talking about this as well. Think about 531 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: due to the injuries and everything that took place, they 532 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: didn't play together a lot during the preseason because they 533 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: had guys interchangeable on coming in and out. And when 534 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 1: they don't do that, you don't get to have that 535 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: cohesiveness that now that they should have through three games, 536 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: especially when they already had their backs against the wall 537 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: and they came out swinging. All right, Uh let's two 538 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: A one nine four or five one three is the number. 539 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: We've got our trustee new uh old iPad back. Is 540 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: it Neil or Nail in New York? It's Neil arm Strong. 541 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm strong, all right. It's the first time I've seen 542 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: the Neil. What's going on, Neil, how are we doing today? Well, 543 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing as good as you guys this week. You know, 544 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm very happy. Um uh. I wanted to call on Monday, 545 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: couldn't get through. Just a comment on the overall very 546 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: good play by all the rookies I saw, you know, um. 547 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: But what I really want to talk about is I 548 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: believe in Wayne Goldman. I watched a lot of Sect football. 549 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: This guy is a very case. He's no Sake Barkley, 550 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: but he's a real competent running back with every I 551 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: don't know what he doesn't have if you catch the ball. 552 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: He's tough, he's gritty, he's fast. He picks up the 553 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: blocking assignment that I see. So I'm I'm excited to 554 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: see Wayne, you know, really get some uh touches this week. Yeah, listen, 555 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: I think, Neil, you've been out a good point. He 556 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: is a capable guy. On top of which he happens 557 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: to be an easy guy to root for. I think 558 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the people what people have to understand, and it happens 559 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: all the time. He's not say one. Don't expect him 560 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: to be Sake one, nor does he have to be 561 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: sake one if if he is Wayne Gallman, I think 562 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: the Giant fans will be pleased. I think will be productive. 563 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: If he worries about being somebody else, that's where it 564 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: bites you on the kista. And I think he's made 565 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: tremendous improvements throughout his first part of his career, not 566 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: only just running the football with lower pad leverage, protecting 567 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: the football and not taking those big hits, but he 568 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: has completely changed his game and his ability to pick 569 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: up blitz is and the blitz packages and really do 570 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: the past protection you need to when you need to 571 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: be a third down back or the backup on the 572 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: football team, and you hit it. He said it perfectly. 573 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to go out and be, say Kwon Barkley, 574 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: be the best Wayne Goldman and be consistent throughout this 575 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: entire game and get those gritty extra one to two 576 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: yards without without giving the the lapse of ball security. 577 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Because this defense for the Redskins are last in the 578 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: NFL on third down last, So if you're in third 579 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: and six blows on third down, it gives you multiple 580 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: options because of Daniel Jones's legs, and that's all you 581 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: want to do to set up for success up against 582 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: this team. You know, you bring up a good point 583 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: where we were talking about he's all he has to 584 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: do is be himself and can't worry about being somebody else. 585 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: As a formal player, did you see a lot of 586 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: that where a guy comes in and he tries to 587 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: be somebody else and it ends up by It could 588 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: be at any posis. I think it's more. I I 589 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: think it's more at at the either defensive end or 590 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver positions because it's a glamour position instead of 591 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: instead of a running back. I think because with especially 592 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: with defensive ends. You know, yeah, it's great that you 593 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: got after the quarterback a little bit, but if you 594 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: don't get the production on the second we're running you 595 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: across the edge and you're not getting it's not doing 596 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: your team any good. And a lot of times with 597 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: that does it opens up rush lanes on the inside 598 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: and doesn't maintain gap discipline and lane discipline where you 599 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: can escape and get outside that rush. Or a wide receiver, 600 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: do what you did to get into that position, not 601 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: try to be the person in front of you. There's 602 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: certain people that can get by with your pure athleticism. 603 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: If you got there by being a precise and sound 604 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: route runner. Don't change that. Two oh one four five 605 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: one three is the number. Let's go to your old 606 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: neckt of woods, Buddy, Chicago and check in with Mark. Hey, guys, 607 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: how you doing. It's a great week this week as 608 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: Mark has everything going, It's going great. And I have 609 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: to say I was at the game on Sunday. I'm 610 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: still in Florida. I have to put that victory up 611 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: there with a couple of other big sporting events. How 612 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: was at and Russ you can probably associate with this better. 613 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: Chris chamber is sitting that home run back in seventy 614 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: home run. In terms of games that I've been at, 615 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: it was exciting the sporting event as I've ever been 616 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to listen. I I view it as I watched it 617 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: at home, and I'll tell you what my wife was 618 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: hearing me, and and then and not like talking to myself. 619 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: First of all, when the big catch was made by 620 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Evans and the end, you know, ups and downs, But 621 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: it was an exciting It would have been exciting with 622 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: anybody if Eli was leading to comeback, but this was 623 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: the kid. It was coming on the heels of all 624 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: the talk with during the week and all the change 625 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: and all the emotion and it Hey, it happened. And 626 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: the one thing that we always used to say is 627 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: because people were questioned, oh, it's gotta be tough going 628 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay on the road. There's so many Giants 629 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: fans in Tampa. You could hear it on the live broadcast, 630 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: all the Giants fans being allowed that game, cheering for 631 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: the Giants who always used to joke around. Is this 632 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,959 Speaker 1: where they send all the witness protection people that are 633 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: all Giants shades out here to Tampa because it becomes 634 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: a home game as long as you have that success. 635 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: So I'm sure it was a great atmosphere. Mark it was. 636 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: It was. It was probably fifty fifty. And my voice 637 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: is still horse to get to a point that you 638 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: just brought up a couple of minutes ago, Dave about 639 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: starting fast. This is the third week in a row 640 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: that we have won the coin toss and deferred, and 641 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: we we did that. I'm thinking to myself, why are 642 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: we doing that? Because the last two weeks I believe 643 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: we deferred and we gave up scores and coming out 644 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: of the box we're down seven and nothing, and I 645 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: understand what Ultimately the strategy is to get the ball 646 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: back at the end of the second quarter in the 647 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: beginning of the third. But when your defense is like 648 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: to said, why why is Sherman making those decisions? And 649 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: I do have a penalty question for you too, Okay, 650 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know what in regards you hit 651 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: the nail on the head with strategy. You know, starting 652 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: the ball in the second half, getting rolling that way. 653 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's always that that that gamesmanship part of 654 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: it to it. But for me, as an offensive player, 655 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: I used to always want to take the ball because 656 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: I want to get that first hit out of the way, 657 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: and I want to set the temple for this game 658 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: based upon us as an offense, not based upon what 659 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: the other offense does. So I can agree with you there, 660 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: but you know, obviously moving forward, that's something that they 661 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: can adjust now. You know, with no the way that 662 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones played in his first start, instead of getting 663 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: it right away now playing at home, building off the 664 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: momentum of this home crowd, in this home team, this 665 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: is one that I could see them taking the ball 666 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: in the first half. But you know, Mark, again, hindsight 667 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: is but the way it worked out that was the spark. 668 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, they come out in the second the first 669 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: player from scrimmage, he hits seven catch and run. He's 670 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: fired up. Ingram is on the bench, and I'm sure that, 671 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that you were there, you could feel 672 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: the deflation of the momentum at that moment immediately without 673 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: a plus on top of it, they made to do 674 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: a point aversion the place with sky high. Alright, yeah, 675 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: I just loot get it from the standpoint. And maybe 676 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: we had taken the kickoff and used up time at 677 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: the front end, they may not have had the opportunity 678 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: to have those two scores in the last two minutes 679 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: of the second quarter, which ended up doing giving them 680 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: the ten point lead. But I have a question. I've 681 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: had a chance to look at the replay yet, and 682 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm in the stadium and I'm looking at that challenge 683 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: that Ermer made about the offensive pass interference. It was 684 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: passing it. I see a guy Graham by the neck. 685 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: I see him grambl with the right arm and he 686 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: goes down and I'm like, how the hell is that? 687 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: Excuse me, how the heck does that not offensive pass? 688 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: Near fare? Now, let's let's see your last spat on 689 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: and that's one that they're gonna send in and they're 690 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna get a letter back this week saying from the NFL, 691 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: we got it wrong. That's the one issue that right 692 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: now is still lingering about this new pass interference rule. 693 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: There's no consistency amongst I can't stand. I can't thank you, 694 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: and thanks for the call, Mark I there's no consistency, 695 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: and nobody knows what the real rule is anymore. You 696 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: know what this was, well, you do know there was 697 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: a brash decision over one place to the Rams in 698 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Okay, things happen, but now, first of all, 699 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: everything is going to beat Nickel and dimeed and you 700 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: know what, when it's just to me, I think the 701 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: whole thing is ridiculous. I see, well, let me throw 702 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: a flag, let me try and get past interference. I 703 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: just I think it's awful. It's I feel the same 704 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: thing about a lot of replays about the past interference 705 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: day through that was completely on the other side of 706 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: where the ball was thrown, and the ball was already 707 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: out of its hands and they still threw it. I 708 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the impact of the play. 709 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: I can't stand the rule. I don't think it's good. 710 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: And David said it was a brass knee jerk reaction, 711 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: and I listen, I get the way that they shouldn't 712 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: have gotten wrong. Yeah, but they did. But do this 713 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: and that's a nightmare. That's it. And you know for 714 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: all the people who you know, because I've gotten the 715 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: arguments about that going back to the rams UH Saints 716 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: playoff game last year. Yeah, but Russ, it wasn't your team. 717 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: I go, yeah, you know what, You're right, it wasn't 718 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: my team. But here's the butt. Even if it was 719 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: past interference, go go ask Bill Parcels and go ask 720 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: Tony Romo ut muffin an extra point. Let alone, nothing 721 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: is a go ask go ask U Bruce arians this 722 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: week about a chip shot field goal. It doesn't work 723 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: that way. On top of which, in that game, Saints 724 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: got the ball first, Saints in over time, and what 725 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: do you do the great Drew Brees, who's a hull 726 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: offing famous first time through an interception about when they 727 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: underthrew Ted Kin Jr. Yeah, nobody wants to bring up 728 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: the points that the where they've failed. They want to 729 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: take out the things that they can control. On point 730 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: the narrative exactly. It was blatant. It was only one 731 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: play in that entire game. So now we're gonna change 732 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: all the rules. We're gonna change everything the way the 733 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: games that play because of one screw up. I just 734 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,959 Speaker 1: think I think that's Listen. It could work for the Giant, 735 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: could work against them. I still don't like it, and 736 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just don't like it. Two zero one 737 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: five one three. Again, gotta remind everybody Big Blue Kickoff 738 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: Live here, brought to you by Corpse Light. If you 739 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: want to enter to win the Ultimate v I P 740 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: Game Day Experience courtesy of Course, like, all you gotta 741 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: do is text v I P to nine oh four 742 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: six four. That's v I P thannin O four six 743 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: four for more detail. I said it excludes us. That stinks. Yeah, 744 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: that's yeah. That sounds like a great package. Why not? Yeah, 745 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: let's go. Jeff in Huntington, Jeff, how are we doing today? 746 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? Hi guys. Um. I love the way the 747 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: team is moving forward and um and I think it 748 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: was the time was right for the change to be made. 749 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: I've always been an ELI supporter, but I'm questioning now. 750 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: ELI on the sideline and his his approach to the 751 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: to the team because right now, as you've seen, the 752 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: playbook has taken advantage utilized Daniel Jones talents and without 753 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: a guy. And Eli is there And I'm not trying 754 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: to read into anybody's mind, let alone Eli's mind, but 755 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: he's could he be saying to themselves there are some 756 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: things that are being done on the field right now 757 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: that I'm not sure I can do that and and 758 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: equal that type of skill set? Yeah? Sure. Do you 759 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: think that Eli is sitting there thinking I could run 760 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: the read option for a touchdown? Yeah? I mean, honestly, 761 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: he understands the difference between the physical makeup and what 762 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: type of quarterback that him and Daniel Jones are. Another 763 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: thing is is that you saw Eli was the first 764 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: one to congratulate Daniel Jones when he came off the field. Secondly, 765 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: you saw constant dialogue between Eli Manning and Daniel Jones 766 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: going through the tablet together. You talked about it last 767 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: week right after the announcement was made. Anything and and 768 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: and I am totally a hundred in tempest on board 769 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: with how Eli has approached his being taken off the field. 770 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: And and that's agreeable what happens though, if for whatever reason, 771 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has to come off the field and Eli 772 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: has to come in. And it's the same adjustment that 773 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: bring back to the game plans that are Eli is 774 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: comfortable with. Thank you answered the question yourself, and Jeff, 775 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy. Thank you for the call, 776 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: but you're talking about you. But you said it. He 777 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: has a different set of skill sets to where he's 778 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: running the zone read and re option read option and 779 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: different UH run past r pos off of it and stuff. 780 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: We know that's not Eli, man. He gonna have him 781 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: rolling out all or on an UH quarterback keeper like 782 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: you think if Eli fakes a read option that defensive end, 783 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go 784 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: out here because he's gonna beat me with his legs. No, 785 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: that's not his game, nor has it ever been. But 786 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: that was an exciting thing that you and I and 787 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: everybody talked about with now moving forward with Daniel Jones 788 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: in this offense because schematically, his athleticism gives you more 789 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: options to do things. Well, let's face it, watching this 790 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: game up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, there was things 791 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones did that physically, Eli Manning wouldn't have 792 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: been able to do in the game. There's nothing wrong 793 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: with saying that, because that's why they drafted. I have 794 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: to tell you something, and I'm glad you brought up 795 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: the fist bumping and talking with them. To me, it 796 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: was mind boggling. On a conference call on Monday. On 797 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: the conference call on Monday this thees same question was asked. 798 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: It was asked Tom to coach Sherman, and it was 799 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: also asked to Evan Ingram. The question was, coach, what 800 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: was Eli's demeanor on the sideline? And I'm saying it 801 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: to myself, what was Eli's I mean, here I am, 802 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm coaching the game, so I'm looking ahead what's on 803 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: the field, and maybe I don't know, maybe Eli was 804 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: behind me scratching as but what do you mean what 805 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: his demeanor was? And they asked the same question on 806 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: the conference call to and this is the media. They 807 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: asked the same question to Evan Ingram. I'm playing the game. 808 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, really, it's gotten to the point of when 809 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: I was, regardless of whether it would be Eli or not, 810 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: when I was in the middle of the game, I'm 811 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: coming off to the bench. I'm not sitting here well 812 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: my backups not showing the right physical body language right now. No, 813 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: you're not even thinking about that. But we all saw it, 814 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: and we knew exactly what's gonna happen with their relationship 815 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: because of this. It did nothing. It only makes the 816 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: Eli now help him out even more so than he 817 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: was doing before. But it's the same exact relationship that 818 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: they've had throughout this entire time. We talked about it 819 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: last week the minute after the announcement was made. You're 820 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: in who comes walking and talking about two guys. Two 821 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: guys come walking in by their lonesome, two guys, Daniel 822 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: Jones and Eli. They go online, they come in, they 823 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 1: go get something to eat, they go get something to drink, 824 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: and they go into the film. I mean you're talking 825 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: about they know each other for a long time. Daniel 826 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: Jones has idolized Eli. I mean he's twenty two years 827 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: old figuring college under David cut Yeah, he was watching 828 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: cut ups of Eli manning throughout his career in the pros. 829 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: Because it's the same offensive, same system. So there's that 830 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: mutual respect and there's that almost handing, the passing of 831 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: the torch for Eli. To Daniel Jones, that's exactly what 832 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: it is. You're right, not almost is that's the torch 833 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: has been passed. Let's go out to Long Island and 834 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: check in with John. Hello, John, you're wrong with Russ 835 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: and David. Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. And 836 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: it's really an honor to talk to you. Guys. My 837 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl champ over there two times, two times. Super 838 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: Bowl champ have two times. Absolutely. I just have one 839 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: thing to say about Eli, and it's not a it's 840 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: it's nothing you know, against anybody. Just come out and 841 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: plugged into a system. He didn't belong. He really didn't 842 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: belong in that running shoot tight, you know, quick passes 843 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: and run around. So I'm not taking anything away from 844 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: an Eli. I love him. He's great. I'm so excited 845 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: to see Daniel Jones. I had called into poly Dots 846 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 1: and after the preseason and said I've never seen a 847 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: quarterback do that, and he kind of put me down, 848 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't care, but I'm so excited. 849 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: I'm over the moon nine five. I started looking for 850 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: the Giants and I've never seen a quarterback start like this. Well, well, John, 851 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: think about when what have you ever been able to 852 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: sit here and think that your quarterback for the New 853 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 1: York Giants can run the read option effectively? Yeah, just said, 854 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: added dimension is something that we haven't had. I mean, 855 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: going back, going back to sixteen years before. I haven't 856 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: got here because Carrie Cowins was my first quarterback other 857 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: than listen, you're you're a long time fan, other than 858 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: scrambled fran talk didn't. Yeah, there has been nobody else. 859 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: So this is an exciting time. And like as you 860 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: were saying earlier, there's nothing wrong with you saying that, 861 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: Just like Pat Shermer said, Daniel Jones fits this system 862 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: better because of it his athletic ability and his ability 863 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: to break outside the pocket. So that was one of 864 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: the reasons of why it was done. So there's no 865 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: bastion on that. There's a two different set of skill sets. 866 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: And now with this moving forward, we know that more 867 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones runs at a tempered pace because you 868 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: don't want him taking the shots all the time and 869 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: getting hit and using his legs too much because you're 870 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: worried about durability. But yeah, if you can keep a 871 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: defense honest, especially on the backside, by running those read 872 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: options and those zone reads. All it takes is that 873 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: split second for them not to react and for them 874 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: to hesitate and think, and now you're dropping balls into 875 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: passing game over their head. You know, John, I had 876 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: asked the Pat Shermer last week, because I speak to 877 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: him every week for you know, our Giants pregame show, 878 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I had asked him if the move was 879 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: made for this particular week, for this particular game for Tampa, 880 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 1: just because of the team that they were playing, and yeah, 881 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: and he said, not necessarily so, But you know, when 882 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: you think about it, if that would have been a reason, 883 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: I would have saying for two. For two reasons, it 884 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: might have been a good reason. One because of the 885 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: blitz packages. And number two, sometimes it's better to start 886 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: the kid of somebody on the road, not in front 887 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: of the home crowd. And now he's coming home with 888 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: the euphoric But like I said, even even going to Tampa, 889 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: that's not a hostile crowd because half of its giants. Right, 890 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: all right, thank you very much. John. I'm over the 891 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: moon and I'm so happy you guys because I can 892 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: hear the excitement and you can hear it in me. God, no, 893 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: it is it's an exciting time. This is what we 894 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: talked about. The Giants needed a spark, they needed something 895 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: to change the landscape and then the dynamic of the 896 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: football team. And you saw it based upon the way 897 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones has been able to provide that. I mean, 898 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just thought of something. Uh you're talking 899 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: about John just called these of fans its fifty five 900 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: like a guy like Daniel Jones and a lot of 901 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: young Giant fans they haven't known anything other than Eli 902 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: man Yeah, Daniel Eli Manning became the quarterback of the 903 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: Giants with Daniel Jones was six. So you think about that, 904 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,959 Speaker 1: I mean, they have you have not known anything else. 905 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: So for a lot of people, this is like sixteen years. Yeah, well, 906 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: or you know, go back a few years when Derek Gino. 907 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: They didn't know anything other than Derek Gina Yankee fans. 908 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: You think about it, So it really is, it's it's 909 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: a big deal. And and again it's it's a big 910 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 1: deal because you're you're not just stepping in for anybody 911 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: stepping in for you know, a future Hall of Famer. Now, 912 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: two one four or five one three is a number. 913 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,479 Speaker 1: Let's go down to Virginia and check in with Jesse. Hello, Jesse, 914 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: harry'all good? Um. One thing I want to touch on him. 915 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: This actually just came up listening to Rust talk just 916 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: now about young John's fans and started watching the Giants 917 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: when I was five. So how old are How old 918 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: are you now? Jesse? How old are you now? Okay? 919 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: There you fit right in. UM. I was skeptical about 920 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: to pick Daniel Jones obviously watching him through some of 921 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: my skepticism wrong watching him Sunday. Um, one thing I 922 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: would like to ask about this may I feel like 923 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: sometimes it's um, it's like he has pocket obliviousness. It 924 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: was like sometimes he didn't he and realized there was 925 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: the fenders in the back build. Well, I think that's 926 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 1: something that it's I think it's more awareness and timing 927 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: of where he's got to get rid of the ball quicker, 928 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 1: because how much faster you know, the rush bears down 929 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: on you. Granted he'll be able to pick that up. 930 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,320 Speaker 1: That's something that he learns this is his first game, 931 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: realizing that this isn't the college, this is the pros 932 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: now and that they get to you quicker, and that 933 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: time to release the football is that much faster. So 934 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: I think that's definitely something that he's going to improve 935 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: on and know that that clock is going to go 936 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: off in his in his head. But the thing that 937 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: you love about him is even though that happened, what 938 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,959 Speaker 1: was the one thing he didn't do? He didn't see 939 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: the rush, he got hit, and he wasn't looking around 940 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: for it. What he do He kept his eyes down field. 941 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: A lot of times, a young rookie quarterback that will 942 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: take a hint like that. The minute that he feels pressure, 943 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: regardless of whether he can or not, what's he doing. 944 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: He's taken off and running with the football. He was 945 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: not sitting down back there going through his progressions like 946 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: he didn't keep in his eyes down field. That's a 947 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: sign of a tough kid, Jesse. He wasn't skittish at all, no, none, whatsoever. 948 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I I what really surprised I should say 949 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: it's surprised me. It amazed me, Dave. He took some 950 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: big hit and he bounced right. I mean, I mean 951 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about baby hits. I'm talking about where 952 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: shack by one inside and he got hit in the back. 953 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you saw the full body extension and he 954 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: bounced right back from it without a single flinch or hesitation. 955 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: That's a tough kid. Yeah, no, ye. My concern would 956 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: be with not saying the potential injury from and you know, 957 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: obviously I've never played. I didn't know that was a 958 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: learned train or something either had or you didn't know. 959 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: That's something that you practice on and learned. And like 960 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: I said, figure this is his first game playing the speed, 961 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: the temper of the game, how quick things happened. He's 962 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: learned already from this one and he'll learn moving forward. 963 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Nobody said it was going to 964 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: be perfect. But to sit here and watch the way 965 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 1: that he played this first game. Granted, like we said, 966 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quicker, you know, make sure 967 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: not looking but feeling the rush so that he can 968 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: anticipate things, think about the other things. Granted, he threw 969 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 1: the one ball at the end of the second quarter 970 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: that was a dropped interceptions. You didn't see him take 971 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: another risk like that throughout the rest of the game 972 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: because he tempered down from that. In the other area, 973 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: they don't need to make sure protecting the football with 974 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: two hands. These are all things that he will improve on. 975 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: As the season moves forward. But even looking at those things, 976 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: the way that he carried and handled himself on Sunday, 977 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: it's absolutely phenomenal. That's exactly what coach Irmant said, you know, 978 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: in his UH when he met with us today, UH 979 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: in his press conference about you know, yeah, the things 980 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: you practiced, you know, to hand, you know, protecting the 981 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: ball a lot. But he was also asked, and I 982 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: really liked UH Coach Ireman's response, and he was asked, well, 983 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: kind of game like that help um Daniel Jones confidence 984 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, and and Pat just kind of looked ooh 985 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: and said, let me tell you something. If you've been 986 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: around Daniel Jones, there's never a confidence problem to people. 987 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: The people who know Daniel Jones in that locker room, 988 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: they just say he's got it. He's got that in fact, 989 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: and there's certain things you can teach a lot of things. 990 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: To me, you can't teach the toughness, and you can't 991 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: teach confidence. You can build confidence, but you just can't 992 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: teach He's got moxy to him. We all said, don't 993 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: let that that shaggy Southern haircut in that little smirk 994 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: for you. He's a competitor and he wants to win. 995 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: And we heard that come out with him for the 996 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: first time, swearing in the huddle that they were gonna 997 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: win the game. I was just gonna say, type of 998 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,759 Speaker 1: attitude that we've seen him have, you're at practice now, 999 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,280 Speaker 1: people are just seeing it live out in the game field. 1000 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: All his teammates said, he's a fiery guy. He's made 1001 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: of substance. But yeah, they were. They were laughing about it. Yeah, 1002 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: whoa with these bombs. Don't don't let that that shyness 1003 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 1: he is a he's a football player. Well here what 1004 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: you just said, don't let that shyness or quietness fool you. 1005 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: Who does he sound like? Yeah, Eliah sounds like Eli. 1006 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: I've never heard Eli drop f bomb like that. Every 1007 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: once in a while, you will, but not not at 1008 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: the end of the huddle like that. But still that 1009 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: everybody's got to be themselves. And obviously he has no 1010 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 1: problem with being comfortable with who he is, because we 1011 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: saw those leadership skills come out in this game. Like 1012 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: we were saying, the ability to go up and down 1013 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: the sidelines, be fired up for to be able to 1014 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 1: go into the last part of the huddle when you're 1015 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 1: going down on the game, drives in, you're gonna win 1016 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: the game. That's the sign of a player that is confident, prepared, 1017 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 1: and has no qualms about being himself and being a leader. 1018 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: Let me, people believe that because they know it's not 1019 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: fake being being the former two time Super Bowl champion 1020 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. If a young guy comes like that, just 1021 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: what Daniel Jones did, going to some veteran guys, it 1022 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to prime example what you here. Guys still 1023 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: talk about it. Fourth quarter at Buffalo, my Bradshaw as 1024 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: a rookie comes in the first play and says, you 1025 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: block this up. I'm taking this sah, you know what 1026 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: to the house. Sure enough, we blocked up. He backed 1027 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: it up. He ran it all the way down on 1028 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: thirty six power for a touchdown to have. I mean, 1029 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 1: you can see the goose bumps on me because I 1030 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: can take myself back to that moment. When you have 1031 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: a young player that has that confidence and has that 1032 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: belief in himself, that's it's infectious. That energy is contagious. 1033 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: And when you have a quarterback that's doing it. We said, 1034 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 1: look at the impact it had on the defense. That 1035 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback that's going out there, that's bawling 1036 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,319 Speaker 1: out and you're backing him up your play. It says 1037 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: a lot about where they're at right now. Is a 1038 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 1: football team coming together? You know. Muhammad Ali used to say, 1039 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say that, Daniel Jones says Muhammad 1040 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: Ali's personality, but it's not bragging if you could back 1041 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: it up, Amen, that's exactly and a bragging if you 1042 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 1: can do it. That's exactly what Ali used to say. 1043 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of truth to that. Now he's 1044 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: not bragging, but he goes out there with confidence. And 1045 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, the least people surprised or people in that 1046 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: locker room now uh and his coaching staff, now, I 1047 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: would say they didn't expect any You're not gonna expect 1048 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: any rookie quarterback to have that final performance and they 1049 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: have to being down to ten, but it's just everybody 1050 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 1: seemed to thrive off it. And and no, I'll tell 1051 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: you this also, I'm sitting home watching this and I'm like, oh, 1052 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying here weep. But I will say this, I 1053 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: didn't sense that the guys were like just hanging their 1054 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: head and even when they walked off the field, they 1055 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: were still fighting him. You knew that, but you're sitting there. 1056 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 1: That's a big obstacle in the task to overcome without 1057 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 1: a st Juan Barkley. That's what I was thinking to myself. 1058 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: Think about that, folks. To me, it's almost as if 1059 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: and you can't minimize the absence of sa Kwan Barkley. 1060 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: But there was nothing. Okay, let's and I say this 1061 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: all the time fans, and I really believe the media 1062 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: is guilty of it as well. They don't understand athletes 1063 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: in in within the locker room. If somebody gets hurt. 1064 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: We said this earlier, it's next man up. And for 1065 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons, that's what professional athletes do for 1066 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 1: a living. And the other thing is, you know, if 1067 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: a guy's getting his chance, Oh, I'm gonna get a 1068 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: chance to make me some maybe more money. It's my 1069 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to shine. They don't like, oh, w always mean, 1070 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: how are we gonna get this done? You can't. You 1071 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: can't live like that. I always say, opportunities are never lost. 1072 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 1: Someone will take the ones that you miss, because if 1073 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: you don't capitalize on that one opportunity, that one chance 1074 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: you get, whether it's in life or in sports, somebody's 1075 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: sitting there hanging on your coattails, waiting because they've been hungry. 1076 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: They've just wanted that one opportunity to taste it, and 1077 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: they'll never give it back. So always be prepared when 1078 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: your moment comes, because you never know if you're gonna 1079 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: catch it again. No, it's that's the nature of being 1080 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: a professional athlete. And I think a lot of people 1081 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: just don't realize that someone's always knocking at the door. 1082 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, somebody's now it's easier to replace certain players 1083 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to other players. And believe me, it ain't 1084 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: easy replacing an Eli Manning when you look at that 1085 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 1: record book. But it is what it is. Everybody, though, 1086 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: eventually gets replaced. It's just the nature of what is 1087 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: going on. You know, just a me tell you fun day, 1088 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: my friend, absolutely great. Let me tell you winning salves. 1089 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: What do you call it? Vitamin wing? You know, well, 1090 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm expecting I'm expecting another shot of vitamin w this Sunday, 1091 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: and I'm expecting an awesome crowd that Giants Stadium I 1092 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: refused to call it the other one that's still Giants 1093 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: stayed in me this Sunday up against the division rival Redskins. 1094 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a great one. I agree with 1095 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: you anyway, folks. That is a wrap on big blue 1096 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: kickoff here on Giants dot Com, brought to you by 1097 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: Coors Light. As always, we want to thank you for 1098 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: being part of it. I want to thank the lovely 1099 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: lady across the way, Mackenzie Ingram, taking such good care 1100 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: of us at the controls and taking your phone calls. 1101 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: My big big man here David Deal, and I am 1102 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: Russ Salzburg saying it to all of you. Have a 1103 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: great week and make sure you're cheering your head off 1104 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: this coming Sunday out at Giant Stadium.