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Speaker 1: has been great. It's Chris Bruce and Rob Parker. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am Chris. He is Robbed otherwise known as the

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Speaker 1: Odd Couple, and we are filling in for Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick Show. Coming to you live and Rob,

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Speaker 1: how are you today? We are Apparently Rob Parker is

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Speaker 1: away from the mic. He will be back shortly. I

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Speaker 1: but we are excited to be here and I just

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Speaker 1: though there are no games on which obviously we all

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Speaker 1: you about, basketball wise and football wise. The NFL draft

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Speaker 1: our buddy Nick Wright. Can't wait to get him on.

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Speaker 1: From first things first, our FS one colleague. He always

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Speaker 1: brings interesting takes, we'll put it that way. We'll be

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Speaker 1: joined by Donovan McNabb, six time Pro Bowl quarterback. A

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Speaker 1: been become quite the outspoken analyst when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the NFL so he's always fun. And then in the

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Speaker 1: final hour of the show, Donnie Wallberg, that will be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, Donnie Wahlberg joining US, actor, producer, directors, singer,

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Speaker 1: and the nemesis of Rob Parker, because Donnie loves the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: So that's put it kindly. So we will have a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun with our guests, and we'll have a

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Speaker 1: and we will get it going all right. Late last night,

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, I'm still doing a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: I was working on some stuff for Fox Digital that

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Speaker 1: saw a tweet come across my phone. It was Ronnie

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Speaker 1: left the clock eastern somewhere around there, and it was

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Speaker 1: from the mighty Lebron James. And here is what Lebron said,

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Speaker 1: thinking about maybe sitting down and breaking down some of

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Speaker 1: IG live, maybe IG live it, or just film it

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Speaker 1: I think that second part about maybe ig live or

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Speaker 1: And I got some calls this morning. Some people think

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Speaker 1: why people don't like Lebron because it's not for him

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Speaker 1: get that. I don't want to see Lebron sitting there

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Speaker 1: talking about, yeah, we were we were down ten, but

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Speaker 1: and I'm so great and this and that. I don't

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Speaker 1: talking about the series with Golden State in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: it's eighty nine. All I believe was the score and

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Speaker 1: So I actually think it could be a very entertaining thing. Again,

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Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't go into bragging about and

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Speaker 1: I don't see Lebron doing that, but talking about how

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Speaker 1: he struggled mightily, I mean, more than we've ever seen

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Speaker 1: about what he was thinking, why he wasn't shooting over

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Speaker 1: heights that he reached. I mean, it could really be

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Speaker 1: some insightful stuff. Again, stay away from just praising yourself,

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Speaker 1: and I think Lebron will do that. I also think,

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Speaker 1: because Lebron is a student of history. I've heard him

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Speaker 1: talk about watching Michael Jordan's great games on his laptop,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean when Jordan scored you know, fifty

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Speaker 1: Lebron should consider doing as well. Rob When you saw

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Speaker 1: trying to overshadow Michael Jordan's documentary. I just thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: starved for watching sports trying to capitalize on you know,

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Speaker 1: America's a tension and I gotta be there. That was

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Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of, why now, why coming

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Speaker 1: And maybe that's that's the cynical, Like that was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: that's the cynical. No, but in both hating his brother

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Speaker 1: of all times. No, But but that's not that I did.

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Speaker 1: That was the first thing I thought, Why now? And

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's typical Lebron, Like maybe this is

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Speaker 1: for somebody else to take a look at it and

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Speaker 1: go we want to take a look at Lebron's career,

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Speaker 1: put some stuff together, do a documentary at some point

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Speaker 1: about his career, which is fine, but like Lebron wants

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Speaker 1: Lebron doing it. It's like when he was in the

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Speaker 1: barbershop on the TV show talking about this is when

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Speaker 1: I knew I was the gold and whatever. That's really

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Speaker 1: for other people to say and it comes out sounding funny.

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Speaker 1: Other safe said it and you haven't. You didn't get

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Speaker 1: mad at Muhammad Ali when he he's the greatest art.

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Speaker 1: You try to justify Ali and totally different. They thought

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Speaker 1: Ali was crazy. No, no other fighters before him sold

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Speaker 1: like that, Sugar Ray Robinson, they had what first, okay,

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Speaker 1: but but it was in the realm of what he

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Speaker 1: but I'm talking about for Lebron to sit there and

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Speaker 1: It didn't feel right for anybody. He's a great player,

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Speaker 1: that just wasn't for him to say. I thought. I

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Speaker 1: it does come saying it before he was even champion.

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Speaker 1: You could bring up Ali or you one crist it

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Speaker 1: you like Ali. No one criticize Lebro. That's not that's

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Speaker 1: your point of view. Did you know you don't know.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that I'm telling you. I just told

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Speaker 1: different to me. To me, that was always a stick

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Speaker 1: That that wasn't Lebron. That's not a stick. What if

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Speaker 1: he did. You said he's doing this to uh overcome

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. No, no, no, it's not. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: when when I saw it originally, that was the first

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna counter Michael Jordan to continue my my relentless

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Speaker 1: So you put out your Michael Jordan documentary, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna show you my best stuff at the same time.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm just telling you. That's the way I felt.

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Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with being Auntie Lebron or

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Speaker 1: jumping on a you ask me what my initial thought

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's documentary is gonna be once a week for

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Speaker 1: Here's shocks freshman year at LSU. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to make this about Shock, but Mike Mood I'm doing

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Speaker 1: right with Chris Jackson. Back then twenty eight points a game.

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Speaker 1: Stanley Roberts, as I mentioned, was the second leading scorer

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Speaker 1: fourteen points, ten rebounds a game. Shock was third at fourteen,

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Speaker 1: but right below Roberts with fourteen point one. Shack was

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Speaker 1: thirteen point nine, and Shot grabbed twelve rebounds a game.

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Speaker 1: So they so Shock knows, Shock knows he shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: beat Kareem in that vote. And so you asked Shock

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Speaker 1: and Bird in the final four and Magic and Michael

436
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: in the final four, and Rob I ought to be honest,

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00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: I think Magic had a better college career than than Michael.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't disagree with that. With that Michigan State team

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: and Greg Kelser was on that team. Ye was great

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Speaker 1: come you know, didn't pan out to be a great

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Speaker 1: NBA player, but he was great. Magic was with all

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: these you know, superstars. He helped make Kelcer obviously remember

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00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: the famous alley oops they used to throw, and he

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00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: used to throw the Kelcer. And I'll be honest too,

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00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: with Larry Bird being going up against Jordan, obviously, I

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00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 1: remember that famous NCAA championship between Bird and Magic. I

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00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: mean that that was one for the ages. I remember

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00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: vividly and the build up that was it was huge.

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00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: But again I don't remember Larry. I know Larry Bird

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00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: started at Indiana, things didn't work out with Bobby Knight.

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00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't remember his college career. I remember that moment, Chris,

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00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: but I don't remember the rest. I'd have to be refreshed.

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Speaker 1: You're making a great point in that Birds shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: been in the championship, serious ground either, Can you help?

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00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Numbers are out off the chain? All right? This this

456
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: is this is what you call you know, really getting

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Speaker 1: into the nuances of the argument, which is what people

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00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: should do before they cast the vote. But Bird's numbers

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00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: are ridiculous. Thirty points, thirteen rebounds, almost five assists for

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Speaker 1: his career at Indiana State. Okay, fifty three percent shooting

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00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: sounds great. Here's the deal. Though they only made the

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Speaker 1: NC Double A tournament his last year there, Rob, No,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. That's why you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I don't remember for years because they

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Speaker 1: never they never got to the tournament. He played at

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Speaker 1: Indiana State. They were in the Missouri Valley Conference. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't in the best competition. That's that's right. Remember started

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Speaker 1: at Indiana. He was at Indiana with with Bobby Knight.

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Speaker 1: So had he done it in that setting at Indiana,

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Speaker 1: it would be totally different, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Then I think first of all, they would have probably

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Speaker 1: made you know, assuming he did the same thing, they

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Speaker 1: would have made the tournament, right because they had good

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Speaker 1: records at Indiana State, but they were in Missouri Valley.

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Speaker 1: Unless you won the conference, you weren't getting in the

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Speaker 1: big dance. And so you're right. Had he done at

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Speaker 1: in Indiana, then we wouldn't be discussing this. But yeah,

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00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: so it was just it looked a great idea, a

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00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: great idea about ESPN, And I guess you can't blame

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Speaker 1: them if the fans voted this stuff right, Yeah, but

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00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: it just tells you how it's a little off the wall.

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Speaker 1: We do have some calls, Chris, people want to chime

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Speaker 1: in on this. Uh So let's let's kick it off

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Speaker 1: with Danny in California. You're on the Dan Patrick Show

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Speaker 1: with the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. You guys,

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. You guys are awesome. I can't

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00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: believe you're on this early in the morning. Are you

488
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of energy? Sunset sunrise? Right, it's you know,

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00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: it's too funny. I'm gonna get a little bit emotional

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Speaker 1: real quick, Okay, um lost my wife a year and

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Speaker 1: a half ago, but then I ended up with a

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00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: like my therapist says, my love interest from UH, from Texas.

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Speaker 1: And and Chris, you say, fans, are you fighting? He says, fans.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you, guys, I grew up. I

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00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: grew up UH with lou Elston Door and then I

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Speaker 1: and then Bill Walton, And I'm telling you, UH, that

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Speaker 1: was basketball. That was college basketball at its finest. Nobody

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00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: even gets that. Nobody Dick Envers calling the game. Nobody

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Speaker 1: will get that. Ever. Um, I grew up UH. The

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00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: games would come on like ten o'clock or midnight, and

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00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: they would they would play, and they won nineties straight

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Speaker 1: and with with UH with the coach. No, it was

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00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: it was, it was Danny, it was It was totally

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: It was totally different. It was a different. College basketball

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: was huge. You want to talk about college football, college

506
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: basketball back then, that was it. It was bigger than

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00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: it was bigger at that time. And you knew who

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Speaker 1: the coaches were and the players. It was totally different.

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Speaker 1: And I think people forget out of sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 1: They didn't see lou all Sender, they didn't see Bill Walden.

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Speaker 1: They think of Bill Walten as some quirky television announced. No,

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00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: he was a ball player. And you remember this too, Rob.

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Speaker 1: There was a rule of freshman couldn't play varsity when

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00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: lou Alisander entered college at UCLA and UCLA's varsity team

515
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: when when lou Allisender was a freshman won the title, right,

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Speaker 1: the freshman team used to pound them in practice because

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Speaker 1: of lou al Sender to think about that, no, I meanlutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy some of these games. I

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: mean Trey Young, I like Trey Young, I love him

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Speaker 1: as an NBA player. Why is he even in the bracket?

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't be in the brackets? And Waymon Tisdale wasn't

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Speaker 1: remember how great was a great college play? Hey, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Kevin and Florida. You're on the Dan Patrick Show.

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00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: It's the I Couple on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, y'all

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Speaker 1: doing this morning? Doing great? Man? How are you doing great? Man?

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Speaker 1: Just just trying to make it do this stuff, you know,

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Speaker 1: no doubt hanging there absolutely. Uh. Hey, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really vote in the poll. I don't do

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Speaker 1: a lot of these, you know, saying only type deals.

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Speaker 1: But if Lenny Bias wasn't in the in the in

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Speaker 1: the po pole then then it then it's messed up completely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Lenny Bias might have been the greatest. If

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Speaker 1: we're talking strictly college basketball, Chris was on the list.

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Speaker 1: He had to be. I don't. I don't have the

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was on the bracket. Rob g

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Speaker 1: checked that out. Bias was another Look. I love Bias.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't think he's in the conversation for

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Speaker 1: greatest college player ever. I believe he played all four years,

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Speaker 1: which back then wasn't that unusual. I think Jordan was

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Speaker 1: better than Bias in college Jordan won two National Players

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Bias was great, though he could should

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Speaker 1: have been on the bracket. Yeah, yeah, that's why I

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Speaker 1: don't think he should have won it. All right, we

544
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Speaker 1: can squeeze one more. N let's do Jeff and Indiana.

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Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Patrick Show. It's the odd couple

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, yeah, I agree with the

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Speaker 1: first call. Guys. Good to have you guys in the daytime.

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00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm knowing this at night and making my comments, so

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your fellows. Thank you so much. To jump

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Speaker 1: on guys. Uh, going just to the Shaquille and Hill thing,

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Speaker 1: I think it was the Elite eight as hearts to

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00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: go out when he got beat by you, uh that year.

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Speaker 1: I think it was maybe as freshman sophomore year before

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Speaker 1: he declared. But going back to the best player in

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00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: college definitely lou Al Sender cream up guilty bar. I

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Speaker 1: would go with Bill Walton's second line to that. Again,

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00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: it's because they've put the time in besides the freshman

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00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: year that they couldn't play to make them good players,

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00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and they won national championships. Take nothing away, you'd go

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00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: to the next level. It's a totally different story, guys. Question.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, just thank you appreciated. Stay safe.

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00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: The New York Knicks slander has got to stop. We'll

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00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: get into that next. It's the Eye Couple Chris Bruce

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00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: or Rob Parker, and this is the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeart Radio app search

568
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: f SR to listen live. Rob there was a tweet,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody's kind of now with sports being off,

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00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: everybody's doing these polls and everybody's you know, doing historical measurements,

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Speaker 1: who's the best player, who's the best team, Who's this,

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00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: who's that? And on Twitter they put out the fact

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Speaker 1: that hoop Central, a site called hoop Central, they put

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Speaker 1: out the fact that each the number of Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famers for each NBA franchise, and the Knicks actually are third,

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Speaker 1: which you know, a little bit surprising. But Boston's got

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, the Lakers have thirty, the Knicks have twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Boston and the Lakers have a ton of rings,

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Speaker 1: and the Knicks don't. The Knicks have two. The Celtics

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Speaker 1: have what seventeen and the Lakers or the Lakers have seventeen,

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Speaker 1: The Celtics have eighteen something like that, um, and the

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Speaker 1: Knicks have two, which led to the question of are

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Speaker 1: the Knicks the most disappointing franchise of all time? What

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Speaker 1: you're I've gotta take it's of the NBA. So you

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Speaker 1: want me to take the NBA. Okay, let me do

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00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: the NBA first and then you can go broader. Um.

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Speaker 1: First of all, even with the NBA. No, all right,

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Speaker 1: I know, the Knicks have been the laughing stock the

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Speaker 1: Knicks or the butt of jokes. Kevin Durant said, they're

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: not cool anymore. All that, But keep this in mind,

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Speaker 1: there are many other franchises in the NBA that have

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Speaker 1: been jes stas, if not more disappointing than the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: How how Atlanta Atlanta Hawks, you like that history? They

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Speaker 1: got past the second round one time. They've been the

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Speaker 1: one conference final and they got swept in that one.

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00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: That was when Lebron swept them out of there like

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: like a dust piece of dust. All right, Washington, rob

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Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards used to be the Bullets. They've been

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00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: pretty disappointing too. I mean, they won the title in

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Speaker 1: seventy eight with Elvin Hayes West unselled right that. Since then,

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00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: they've been and they've had players. You know, they had Um,

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Speaker 1: you had the Gilbert Arena's era, which obviously ended horribly

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Speaker 1: with the gun play and all that stuff in the

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Speaker 1: locker room. Right yeah, you had Chris Webber, Rashid Wallace.

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Speaker 1: They I mean, you had times where it looked like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come out of the Dulgrums, John wall and

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00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill and it never happened. So I'd have to

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Speaker 1: I say they're more disappointing than the Knicks. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you want to think, and there are other teams Denver,

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Speaker 1: where's their ring? You know the Clippers. I know now

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00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: the Clippers shine, but but the Clippers around forever and

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00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: have moved from city to city, Chris, there are so

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Speaker 1: many bad franchises. The Sacramento Kings were the Kansas City, right,

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Speaker 1: they played in Kansas City, played in Cincinnati, Cinati, Kansas City. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I used to watch those games. They played half of

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Speaker 1: their games. And also the Cincinnati Royals, you know, that

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Speaker 1: was the original Cincinnati. They had Oscar, of course, but

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Speaker 1: they never won anything. They never came close to win

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Speaker 1: anything when Oscar was there. So, um, how about Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: You know that you had KG, you did nothing with it.

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Speaker 1: He leaves and finds glory. You know in Boston now

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Speaker 1: he's viewed as a Celtic, right, more so than and

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Speaker 1: Now you got the great Karl Anthony Towns. But you're

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Speaker 1: not doing anything. You got and you had Andrew Wiggins.

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Speaker 1: You're not doing anything. Um and then and and I

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Speaker 1: would also how about this now they're not I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say they're as disappointing as the Knicks. But because

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Speaker 1: they are, you know, they are one of the better

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Speaker 1: franchises in the NBA. But how about Oklahoma City, rob

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Speaker 1: you had which three MVPs, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell

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Speaker 1: Westbrook all gonna be Hall of famers, all iconic figures

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Speaker 1: in their own right, and you got no ring and

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Speaker 1: you got none of them. Now, like again, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put them on the level of the Knicks because they

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Speaker 1: have the team and never been around long enough, right, right,

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Speaker 1: because that's really the Seattle franchise, right, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: but you want to take it to other sports, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to think of it because it used

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Speaker 1: to be the Cubs, Right, It took them over a

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Speaker 1: hundred years to win a championship, right, they finally got

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Speaker 1: it done. Yeah, one hundred and eight. The Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: it took eighty seven years, and now the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: have won four World Series in the last since you

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Speaker 1: brought up the Red Sox, if you before they won

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Speaker 1: their chance championships, would you put them say they were

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Speaker 1: as disappointing as the Knicks because they had some really

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Speaker 1: good teams. No, No, some great players, which I guess

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Speaker 1: you could say the Knicks did too, because the Knicks

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Speaker 1: in the nineties were legit, right, but they hadn't won

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Speaker 1: eighty seven years is yeah, they won it. One had

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Speaker 1: the type of drought. But to me, there's one franchise

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Speaker 1: that stands out as the absolute worst, and that's the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. And and I say that obviously I worked there.

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Speaker 1: Chris covered their game for twenty years. Let me remind

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Speaker 1: our listeners that Robs robs tagline is if I'm writing,

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Speaker 1: I'm ripping just let's yes, that's what That made it

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Speaker 1: very easy working it Detroit cover the Lions. But my

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Speaker 1: point is, you know they have they've never been to

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl in the Super Bowl era, Chris, They've

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Speaker 1: won one playoff game since nineteen fifty seven. Think about

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Think about parody. Think about you remember that

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Speaker 1: you you know you were born in New Orleans, I

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Speaker 1: mean in Louisiana, Sat. The Saints used to be called

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Speaker 1: the Aints. They won a Super Bowl. How about the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks, how terrible they were? Was an expansion team, Chris,

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Speaker 1: they won a super Bowl. The old Saint Louis Cardinals

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Speaker 1: little playoff runs. Well, but the Browns won Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: because they moved into Ravens. That's the original Browns fantise.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that is to be fair. And the

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Speaker 1: team in Cleveland is an expansion team. And here's the other.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about the Detroit Lions as an original franchise,

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Speaker 1: and yet they have not. They've won one playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety one, they beat the Dallas Cowboys with Aikman

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Speaker 1: and and Emmett Smith and all those guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they were just starting and they were supposed to

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Speaker 1: be on par with those Cowboys. The Cowboys went on

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Speaker 1: to win three out of four championships, and the Lines

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Speaker 1: never even got there. And you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: great players, Barry Sanders, there's a number of Hall of famers, right,

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Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue and Stafford and all those guys want

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Speaker 1: the same team. So so to me, it's the Lions.

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Speaker 1: It is not the New York Knicks. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I'd have to do a little I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, if we research baseball, I mean even a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams that are horrible. Pittsburgh won this World Series.

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Speaker 1: You know we are family with Willie Starr. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it. I do more research, but definitely Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: over the Knicks. There's no question about it. All right,

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