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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, just how will the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense attack Josh Allen and the Bills. We'll get

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs and then offers up a proposal more like

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Speaker 1: a plea to Commissioner Roger Goodell, but first a new

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Speaker 1: adjective to describe the future Hall of Famer Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: as Cardinals Cover two episode at three fifty and it

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Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu

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Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of fitz Bob head. He's

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Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So Bill's head coach Sean McDermott this week

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Speaker 1: speaking with reporters, called Larry Fitzgerald quote the hallmark of

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Speaker 1: our league. Quote MJ. I had to look that up. Now.

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Speaker 1: I know about Hallmark stores and Hallmark cards and Hallmark television,

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Speaker 1: especially one of excellence. Heck, MJ. That fits Larry Fitzgerald

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Speaker 1: to a t. Yeah, I was gonna start. You think

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Speaker 1: but it's true. Well, I like Sean McDermott, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I got a chance to see some of

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Speaker 1: that transcript. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think at this point,

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Speaker 1: you know, teams clearly are aware of Larry Fitzgerald's career.

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Speaker 1: fill up your entire notebook just on Larry Fitzgerald. That's

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Speaker 1: true because with AFC East teams, you're only playing them

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Speaker 1: once every four years. And you're right, you ask Belichick.

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Speaker 1: I remember that a couple of years back, when things

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Speaker 1: Mcdermock added, quote, He's made the NFL and our world

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Speaker 1: Fits will not go beyond tomorrow's practice, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: maybe even bring seven to kind of speed it up

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Speaker 1: as far as Josh Allen's decision making and getting that

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Speaker 1: ball out of his hand as fast as possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we know based on the last game, Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: consistent when he meets with Southern Thursdays that there are

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Speaker 1: packages for him. And they're trying to get the third down.

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Speaker 1: And you know they only had nine possessions last week.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals only had nine. I looked it up, their averaging

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Speaker 1: about ten to eleven per game, So that's one left possession.

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Speaker 1: But if they can get the third down again, I

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Speaker 1: would add Isaiah Simmons to a guy that can also

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Speaker 1: rush the passer. He can also cover possibly some of

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Speaker 1: the third tight end on the crossing route, So you

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Speaker 1: probably should include him, but you got to get the

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Speaker 1: third down in order for him to really unleash those packages.

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Speaker 1: That's where you see Buddha coming off the edge. That's

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Speaker 1: where you see Murphy coming off the edge. They'll show

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Speaker 1: two guys lined up and you think they're rushing seven

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Speaker 1: or nine, but then they dropped back in the coverage

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Speaker 1: to confuse the quarterback with Simmons. What I've noticed, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many times, but when he typically

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Speaker 1: is line up as a slot defender, he's coming in

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Speaker 1: and rushing the quarterback. Now that is a different look.

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Speaker 1: Does now all of a sudden sometimes he dropped back.

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Speaker 1: You got to be able to confuse that quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals did that with Russell Wilson. Now you got

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Speaker 1: to come up with maybe a different package or two

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Speaker 1: or three to confuse Josh Allen because, as Vance Joseph said,

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Speaker 1: you want to be able to do a good job

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Speaker 1: of attacking what they see on tape and then as

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Speaker 1: far as changing things up early so you don't give

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen the same looks on Sundays that he's practiced

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Speaker 1: against Monday through Saturday. Yeah, and he also reminded us

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Speaker 1: they start of the game against the Seahawks twenty one

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Speaker 1: nothing in the first quarter. Now, Seattle at the end,

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Speaker 1: obviously they were trying to come back. They put up

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Speaker 1: a ton of yards, but the game was pretty much

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Speaker 1: out of reach, you know, after that third quarter. But

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Speaker 1: you can't fall down to the bills because all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, that defense becomes him. Prompt to guys start

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Speaker 1: pressing a little bit, so it'd be awesome to see

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals get off to a good start. We know,

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Speaker 1: if they win the toss, were likely to defer, but

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Speaker 1: when the offense goes on the field, it'd be nice

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Speaker 1: to see that they don't other team doesn't have seven

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Speaker 1: points on the scoreboard. But let me ask you about

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Speaker 1: that winning in the coin toss. When Bruce arians was here,

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Speaker 1: he always wanted the football. Bill Belichick was the first

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Speaker 1: to kind of say, no, I'm going to defer because

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Speaker 1: I like doubling up score at the end of the

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Speaker 1: first half, get the ball to begin the second half.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a preference either way with regard to

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Speaker 1: if they do win the toss, I think all season

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Speaker 1: long they'd deferred. But I have heard a segment of

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Speaker 1: the Bird gang out there that would like the offense

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Speaker 1: to get on the field to maybe set the tone,

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Speaker 1: get that first score and force the opponent to come

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Speaker 1: from behind. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Belichick double

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Speaker 1: up because it's all you have to do. Now. It's

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Speaker 1: not easy because less you know, there's been games where

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals have gotten three and out in the first possession,

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Speaker 1: and then if you if you let's say they get

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Speaker 1: if you can get that ball off the late in

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Speaker 1: the first half, you're gonna get the ball to open

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Speaker 1: up the second half. The key is you have to

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Speaker 1: you have to limit their options and that first possession.

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Speaker 1: You can't have your offense goo out there and then

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Speaker 1: give up a fumble for a touchdown, where now the

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Speaker 1: next time they go on the field, their defense is

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Speaker 1: down seven nothing. So I guess it's all about the

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Speaker 1: team you're playing, you know, if you're playing the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you want to have the ball last. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the number is, but it's gotta be in the nineties

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Speaker 1: when it comes to deferring, because if you make that

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Speaker 1: stop in that first possession, then you benefit by getting

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Speaker 1: the ball in the second half. I like what you said,

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Speaker 1: because if you do get get that three and out,

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Speaker 1: which the Cardinals did against the Dolphins, Kyler Murray fumbled

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Speaker 1: it away, But then you can you put the defense

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Speaker 1: on the field at first to either get the crowd

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Speaker 1: going at home or to try to silence the opposing crowd,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes all you need is that one stop the

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Speaker 1: offense comes out, whether it's a touchdown or field goal.

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Speaker 1: You certainly would love to get six as opposed to

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Speaker 1: three and then kick the pat But I like that

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Speaker 1: Belichick philosophy, and I think he was the first and

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Speaker 1: maybe bird Gang if you've heard of someone else that

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Speaker 1: came up with it. But I think he gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of that credit because now you're doubling up and

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Speaker 1: you're going from either maybe you're trailing to a head

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Speaker 1: or you're up by four and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: then you're up by seventeen because you've doubled up those

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Speaker 1: two possessions the end of the first half in the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the second half. Yeah, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: think Cliff's done a good job with you know plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when it comes to script of plays,

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Speaker 1: they also have a third down package, so you kind

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Speaker 1: of come off your script. But the worst thing is

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Speaker 1: to do now the Cardinals don't win the toss, they

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Speaker 1: make it the ball first. Okay, it's really fifty to fifty, right,

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Speaker 1: So the worst thing you want to do is come

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Speaker 1: out and go three and out because now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you've been hyped up for the game, you

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Speaker 1: feel like the script is working, and now you gotta

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Speaker 1: put your defense on the field. So that could be

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Speaker 1: a little deflating going three and out or you know,

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Speaker 1: a false start penalty or holding penalty and now you're

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Speaker 1: sitting at third and fifteen versus third and three, So

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Speaker 1: that could be deflating. If your defense makes a stop,

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Speaker 1: I think it creates energy for the sidelines. Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: won the toss each of the past two games. They

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Speaker 1: lost the toss at Dallas. The Cowboys deferred and the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals got the ball and went three and out on offense.

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Speaker 1: So I certainly like having the defense on the field

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Speaker 1: at first, unless, of course, that decisions taken out of

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Speaker 1: your hands. But I think Kingsbury has been very consistent

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Speaker 1: about defering, and it's always been Larry Fitzgerald out there

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Speaker 1: saying no, no, we'll defer the option and then pick

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Speaker 1: which way they want to go. Yeah, it looks like

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Speaker 1: this year with COVID, you don't have as many captains

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Speaker 1: out there, and so we know the Cardinals have X

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Speaker 1: amount of captains, but Larry's out there, and if you're

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Speaker 1: playing on the East Coast outdoors, sometimes it's about the wind.

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Speaker 1: You want to win in your back in the fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter versus trying to kick a field goal in the wind.

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Speaker 1: So there are a couple variables. But we don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about that weatherwise at State Farm Stadium, Nope.

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Speaker 1: But the Cardinals might have to when they travel to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and also the Giants, and we'll just kind

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Speaker 1: of have to wait and see what mother Nature has

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Speaker 1: in store for those games on November twenty ninth and

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Speaker 1: December thirteenth. Perspectively, I'm watching I remember watching the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: early when I moved here in nineteen eighty eight. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: the same year they moved here, there was a game

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Speaker 1: it had an outcome on the game. Now you could

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Speaker 1: and snowplow where they're going to kick the ball, which

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Speaker 1: you know, home team, home field advantage stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember that. I don't know if it was all

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Speaker 1: delC Reco, but when they opened that door. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the game, the wind took the ball away

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Speaker 1: and you didn't really have an opportunity to win the

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Speaker 1: game with a field goal. Well here locally chase field

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Speaker 1: roof open, roof closed, and all depends on how well

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Speaker 1: the ball travels. And we had back in the day

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Speaker 1: long time. Kurt Schilling always preferred to have the roof closed,

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Speaker 1: But that's a discussion another time. If you want to

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. One other note on Peterson, he was asked

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Speaker 1: it's been a past happy league in scoring is up

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Speaker 1: as the other Bees, and then called out. Okay, called

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Speaker 1: out is the wrong terminology, but had a specific proposal

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Speaker 1: in mind for Commissioner Roger Goodell. Is more like a

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Speaker 1: plea to have more officials on the field so they

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Speaker 1: can see more of the game, more of the field

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Speaker 1: because in his mind, the past interference call on him

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Speaker 1: I had to look up because it was declined, but

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Speaker 1: a flag was thrown on DeVante Parker's catch for seventeen yards.

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Speaker 1: But Peterson said he didn't interfere with Parker, and he

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Speaker 1: on the field. Here's the quote, we need more eyes

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Speaker 1: on the field, mister Goodell. End quote. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, MJ. But props for Peterson to bring

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Speaker 1: it up. Well in vance talked about you know, really

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Speaker 1: how the question became is is basically, there's records said

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Speaker 1: every weekend, we have more points, more touchdowns, we have

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Speaker 1: more returns. You know. When it comes to just the league,

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Speaker 1: I think there's four or five teams averaging over thirty points.

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Speaker 1: Earlier was a lot more of the Cardinals at ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Right now, listen, let's be honest. Because of player's safety,

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Speaker 1: got rid of the DPI OPI or DPI last year

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Speaker 1: comes to fantasy and entertainment sports, I mean, they love scoring.

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Speaker 1: And you know, again when we get to December, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit different. But the first thing

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Speaker 1: I thought of is more eyes, more flags, longer football games,

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Speaker 1: and the NFL prefers these games three hours and three minutes,

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Speaker 1: three hours and five minutes. They don't want these things

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Speaker 1: bleeding in the three twenty Now if you have overtime,

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Speaker 1: and that's the reason why we see games in the

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Speaker 1: afternoon started at oh five or twenty five, because they

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Speaker 1: if a game's out of reach, they can go to

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Speaker 1: another one. Listen, they had their replay official, and you

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Speaker 1: know they got an official in the booth. There's also

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Speaker 1: an official on the sidelines that can help. He's wearing

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Speaker 1: he wears a jacket, but he also has his official

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Speaker 1: uniform in case an injury happens. But more eyes, more flags, Craig,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sounds going to theory. He's exactly right. All

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Speaker 1: Joseph touched on quote. It's definitely tilted to the offense.

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Speaker 1: The rules are slanted end quote. But he understands that's

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Speaker 1: what we're up against. That's what we know we're going

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Speaker 1: to face. So you have to adjust accordingly. And I

643
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,239
Speaker 1: think some defensive backs and some defenses are but it

644
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: is difficult because you can't be as physical with a

645
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: receiver that is running routes. It's much like the NBA.

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Speaker 1: You get rid of the hand check. There's less physicality,

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Speaker 1: especially down low in the post. Does it make for

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00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: a better game. It certainly makes it more eye pleasing

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00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: as far as points are being scored, and then it's

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00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: more fun for the fans because they like to see touchdowns.

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00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: They don't like to see incomplete passes or field goals

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00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: or punts. But I understand it from Peterson's point of

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Speaker 1: view and the rest of the defense. Although if it

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Speaker 1: was that big of a deal, you know, going back

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Speaker 1: to college or high school, Peterson could have played offense.

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Speaker 1: He could have made that decision and not played dB

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Speaker 1: at LSU. So to some of this, it's on his

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Speaker 1: shoulders as well. Well. I think he was like a

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00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: three sports star. So you know, what do you call

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00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: those champagne problems? Exactly? Yeah, and he and he also

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00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: said they push off. Again, he is a defensive back.

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00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: You can wrestle with the guy up until five yards

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Speaker 1: and after that you got to keep your hands off.

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Speaker 1: But he says they push off. And Craig look at

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Speaker 1: Advance mentioned over the last four years, and maybe he

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Speaker 1: was Patrick, but Advanced alluded to it. Two. The completion

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Speaker 1: percentages of these quarterbacks there are a lot higher than

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Speaker 1: they used to be. You go back fifteen years, we

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00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: didn't have this much scoring. Teams were running the ball.

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Speaker 1: They get to the fourth quarter, You played good defense,

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00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: your punt, you played for field position. Again, sometimes the

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00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: weather can play a factor, but these these guys are

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Speaker 1: I mean Kyler Murray's on pace for over four thousand yards. Well,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned it yesterday with Josh Allen. His completion percentage

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Speaker 1: sixty seven point one percent this year. He was at

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00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: fifty eight point eight last year. That's almost a ten

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00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: percent jump, which is unheard of. When you're talking about accuracy.

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Speaker 1: As far as quarterbacks, you're either accurate or you're not.

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00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: You can't improve upon that's that. Yet here is Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and you're number three, up to over sixty seven

681
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage. Yeah, and they're throwing the ball more.

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00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: So you would think that law of averages would be down. Now,

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00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: it's not for all quarterbacks. Obviously, if your team struggling,

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00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: you're not at that rate. But the completion percentage is up.

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00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: We're seeing guys get targeted more. We're seeing more it

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00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: seems like more passes than rushes. Clearly the league has changed.

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: But I do have to agree with Patrick. The rules

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: are geared toward the offense. Well, this from the league

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Speaker 1: earlier today. We are here in twenty twenty, in the

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Speaker 1: midst of the highest scoring season through Week nine, the

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00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: most total points, points per game, total touchdowns, offensive touchdowns

692
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: again through week nine and on pace to record new

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Speaker 1: marks in league wide passer rating and league wide completion

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Speaker 1: percentage right now second most league wide completions and total

695
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Will see if it's across the board, but

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00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: to your point, yes, it's geared towards the offense because

697
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: that's what makes everything run. As far as getting butts

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00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: in seats and everyone in front of a television because

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00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: they like these forty four thirty four contests or these

700
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: thirty one thirty six games, it's not always fun for

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00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators. In fact, Vans Joseph was asked about that,

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Speaker 1: are you just kind of subject and just kind of

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00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: plan that you're going to give up points because of

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: what teams can do and specifically the bills, And he said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we have a plan to stop opponents from scoring points. Period.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sitting there going and I'm paraphrasing here and

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00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: putting words in his mouth, but he's not saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's say we give up twenty that's okay, because they're

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Speaker 1: averaging twenty six. No no no, no, no, no, we stopped them.

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Speaker 1: Our goals to stop them every single time. Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and the Bills are on the football field, all right.

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Speaker 1: So NFL Fox put out mid season awards best games

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Speaker 1: so far. They listed Week three between the Bills and

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Okay, we knew that. Remember Buffalo was up

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Speaker 1: by a lot and the Rams came back. There were

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Speaker 1: a couple of questionable calls. Week two, obviously he had

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00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Cowboys. That was you know that somebody

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00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: blew elite in that game. And then you go Week eight, Steelers, Ravens.

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Speaker 1: You know what else makes the list? Week seven, Seahawks, Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: So they listed four games. In all of those games

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00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: high scoring games. Teams were down by thirteen to seventeen points.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals obviously, you know with the Seahawks, that was

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Speaker 1: high scoring game. You know obviously you know Wilson turned

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00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: the ball over if they were able to, you know,

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00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: put some points up there. So when you look at

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Speaker 1: the best game so far, we're not looking at the

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Speaker 1: defensive matchup. Now, the Ravens and Steelers, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Blue division. But all these other games,

729
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: either you came from behind or their score was in

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Speaker 1: the thirties. Well, I'll go back and say, because the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals won the Seahawks games certainly the most enjoyable one

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Speaker 1: for Cardinal fans because it had everything, high scoring, great

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Speaker 1: quarterback play, and then the defense made several stops and

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Speaker 1: in the one big stops, Zan Gonzala is in position

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Speaker 1: to win it and ot. So yeah, that for Cardinal

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Speaker 1: fans is the game of the season, although I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they'd be saying that or we'd be saying

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Speaker 1: that if it was reversed and the Cardinals walked off

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: the field with a loss and it was on prime time.

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00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: There you go, now without the spotlight. How do the

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00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals react? How do they play when you have a

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: very good Buffalo Bill's team come into town. Before we

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Speaker 1: exit here on this Thursday edition, do want to update?

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00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Coach Joseph was asked about a couple of different players

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00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: that I think are going to be key this week,

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Speaker 1: specifically MJ. Byron Murphy, who is coming off the reserve

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00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen lists, according to Joseph, is full go, which

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00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: is great to hear because you have no idea he

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00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: missed one game, What is he doing? What is he

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00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: able to do to stay in shape? And then Buddha Baker,

751
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: who has not been on the practice field for the

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00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: past couple of days because of a groin injury, but

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00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: according to Joseph Baker is quote getting better and better

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00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: every day. It looks good for Buddha end quote. And

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00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: we know without thirty two on the field what this

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00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: defense looks like, going all the way back to that

757
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: Carolina game in Week four, and another thing that was

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00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: encouraging watching Kenyan Drake back on the practice field and

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00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: then we's listed are limited, but I don't see any hesitation.

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00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't see any favor in the ankle. So that's

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00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: good news because we know what that one two punch

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00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: including Kyler Murray can mean when it comes to running

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00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: the football. Be interesting to see how much running the

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Speaker 1: football it happens on Sunday, especially from the Bills standpoint,

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Speaker 1: because we've seen them win ball games differently over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Where you're throwing a lot, you're

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00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: running a lot against the Patriots, you're throwing a lot

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Speaker 1: against the Jets, so whatever, or get you a w

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Speaker 1: But they're a hard team to kind of prepare for

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Speaker 1: because they've shown that they can win either with the

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Speaker 1: pass and ignore the run or with the run and

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Speaker 1: ignore the pass That's a good observation because that's what

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Speaker 1: I've done when I look at the Bills from week

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Speaker 1: one to now, every week is different and that tells

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00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: me when it comes to their offensive coordinator, Brian day Ball,

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00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: it's all based on matchups. Now, if the Bills were

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00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: playing the card those last week, definitely would be heavy passing.

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Speaker 1: It's HiT's changed now you got Jalen knocking the rust off.

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00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: It's really the first time since week one everyone's on

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00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: the field together because Jayleen, he only played two snaps.

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00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: You missed Buddha and week against the Panthers. So yeah,

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00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: if they were playing last week, that would be magest

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00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: concern one of the keys there. But now that everything's

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00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: settling down, guys are playing their natural positions. You know,

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00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: obviously they got to execute. I think there's going to

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00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: be a mixture, but again down and distance will dictate

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00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: as advance point. They got to give him in some

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Speaker 1: third and lungs where they can start to tee off

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Speaking of keys, MJ got a homework

790
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: assignments coming up here Tonight's I know Thursday Night Football

791
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: will have your attention, but you also got to give

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00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: the bird gang what they want every single Friday, and

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00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: that is MJ's three keys to a win plus the

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Speaker 1: X factor. So you got some work to do, yes,

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Speaker 1: And I want to get into some of the historical

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00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: numbers when it comes to Kyler Murray because if he

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00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: gets like one hundred forty three one hundred ninety three yards,

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Speaker 1: as you know this, he's gonna go into this elite category.

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Speaker 1: And I think the other other quarterback is done that.

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Speaker 1: It's Cam Newton, and we know Cam Newton won the MVP.

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00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: Of course they won thirteen or they were fifteen and

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00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: one that year, because Cardinals were thirteen and three. I'm

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00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: not saying put him in there. But also, if you

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Speaker 1: want to do a polar right snapshot when Lamar Jackson

805
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: won the MVP and to what Kyler Murray now they

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00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: were six and two, you'd have to look at how

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: they did in the second half of the season, because

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00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: obviously the Ravens were in the postseason. But it's it's

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00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: they almost mirror each other when it comes to stats.

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Speaker 1: So we know that Kyler would trade those stats in

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Speaker 1: and we would two for wins. But it's pretty historical

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Speaker 1: what he's doing in his first twenty four games and

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00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: going into that twenty fifth game, historical numbers based on

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00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: him just throwing for one hundred and fifty yards. It's

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Speaker 1: a good team. He's forward Mike Jarecki for a football

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Speaker 1: Friday and on that note bird gang, we will put

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Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Covered as always

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Momahundro for Mike Jarecki,

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Speaker 1: who has worked to do I'm Craig Riel Lou will

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.