Speaker 1: Well, well, and another well, we're just just what twenty Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I gave you that third one for free.
Speaker 1: And we're only twenty days before the first team's head
Speaker 1: into training. GAMP were under a month away from media
Speaker 1: days and about fifty days from the season starting, so
Speaker 1: we are waiting with baited breath, which means the one
Speaker 1: thing we are able to do is check in with
Speaker 1: the teams and some of their offseason moves. And you
Speaker 1: know what, Let's start today with the Pacific Division with
Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning sports journalist Lena Washington.
Speaker 2: On today's episode, I'm.
Speaker 3: Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is mock
Speaker 3: slowch Sorry, got it. Look at the hitch ten okay,
Speaker 3: and be driving Spinny number eighteen that's been.
Speaker 2: Secured the Celtics or.
Speaker 4: NBA champion.
Speaker 5: Team.
Speaker 3: To be honest with.
Speaker 1: Lena Washington, you have, Lena, we famously don't, and that's
Speaker 1: why we wanted to have you here today to tell us.
Speaker 2: It's great, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I have an Emmy for each of
Speaker 5: us in the chat to be you know, not to flex,
Speaker 5: but we can all share the wealth and it's happy
Speaker 5: to be on with you guys. I think I might
Speaker 5: have a five Timers jersey or half away.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, embroider, we're waiting for the budget to get cleared.
Speaker 1: Once that budget clears, I know I did promise you
Speaker 1: a whole leather jacket that was designed by Louis Vauton.
Speaker 2: I may have over promised there, you did. But how
Speaker 2: about a gift card? I'll all right, the.
Speaker 3: Flavor exactly.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna talk specific division today that includes
Speaker 1: a team near and dear to your heart, a team
Speaker 1: near and dear to mine, a team not so much also,
Speaker 1: But hey, who better than to do that with you?
Speaker 1: But I guess overall we were looking just sort of
Speaker 1: what sort of how many games everyone's projected to win.
Speaker 1: It looks like, overall, Jack, we're the West, we're kind
Speaker 1: of making space for some ascended teams.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing I have to keep reminding myself
Speaker 3: anytime we're talking win totals, Like we can't have all
Speaker 3: the teams that were good last year be good again
Speaker 3: this year in the West and have Houston and the
Speaker 3: Spurs and Memphis all getting better, like I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people expect them to I personally expect them to.
Speaker 3: So I think there's like people are just like, well,
Speaker 3: the Blazers and the Jazz are going to be bad,
Speaker 3: and that may be true, but they were bad last year, right,
Speaker 3: you know, everyone thinks okay See is going to be
Speaker 3: much better. So that adds more L's to the rest
Speaker 3: of the teams in the West. Who's going to eat
Speaker 3: all these L's is the question I'm looking at whenever
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Western Conference win totals. Who who are
Speaker 3: we going to offload all these l's?
Speaker 2: Hell? Might I interest you in a three pack of l's, Sir?
Speaker 2: Maybe not so much, not so much, not so much.
Speaker 3: You're selling l's.
Speaker 2: Knock knock, Who's there?
Speaker 1: I'm the l salesman, just saying, if you want to
Speaker 1: do the community of service and absorb some of these
Speaker 1: some some others may ascend, but let's start with your
Speaker 1: Phoenix sons. What fortyeven and a half wins is the
Speaker 1: projection here?
Speaker 6: I'll take the over.
Speaker 5: I'm I think the biggest edition in their off season
Speaker 5: has been of course, my foodenholes are stepping in as
Speaker 5: head coach.
Speaker 6: I think the Frank Vogel era was a distant.
Speaker 5: Memory now and they're moving forward with a new coach
Speaker 5: and new energy, and I'm excited to see how it
Speaker 5: all comes together with a new vision and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 5: the guys who went to Paris and won a gold
Speaker 5: medal will come back even more cohesive to introduce some
Speaker 5: of the new pieces like Tias Jones.
Speaker 6: We know that he goes back.
Speaker 5: With Devin Booker and Monte Morris coming in to the fold,
Speaker 5: I think will be two good additions, and then Mason Plumley.
Speaker 6: Coming on board leaving the Clipper. So a little Pacific
Speaker 6: Division shifting with a lot of names and a lot
Speaker 6: of faces. But I think I'll take the over with that.
Speaker 5: I think you look at the division, it is one
Speaker 5: of the more competitive in the league, I would argue,
Speaker 5: but they don't have to face all of those teams
Speaker 5: every matchup, so they have that going for them.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So last year the Suns won forty nine games.
Speaker 3: This year they are targeted at forty seven point five.
Speaker 3: So that's one of the things that we realized is
Speaker 3: they've like taken They've given everybody a couple extra else.
Speaker 3: I feel like that that's the way that draft kings.
Speaker 3: HEAs like mathematically made sense of the season is like,
Speaker 3: all right, somebody's gonna have to lose, So everybody's gonna
Speaker 3: have to lose a little bit more. Like they're very
Speaker 3: bullish on like OKC, which that we're not talking about today,
Speaker 3: but like they have them winning the same number of games.
Speaker 3: They just that's first place because everybody else is losing
Speaker 3: a little bit more this year. It'll be interesting. I
Speaker 3: think I have the same question about two other teams
Speaker 3: in this division as as far as like will some
Speaker 3: Olympic magic translate, like will it like hang on them?
Speaker 3: Will there just be like that extra little fairy dust
Speaker 3: with the Lakers and the Warriors and the Suns.
Speaker 6: I think with the Suns when they came back from Tokyo,
Speaker 6: they had the winning is in enfranchise history off of
Speaker 6: that experience, if I'm not mistaken. Granted, Kevin Durant wasn't
Speaker 6: on the team at the time, but.
Speaker 5: At least Devin Booker came back with a whole new
Speaker 5: I think level and gear to him.
Speaker 2: So and neither was Bradley Beal.
Speaker 6: So that's right.
Speaker 2: Who knows now, but that's I'm now.
Speaker 1: I'm so there's there's definitely I see, like what the
Speaker 1: addition of Tias Jones and Monte Morris does like the Clippers,
Speaker 1: I think we're toured like the bottom of the league
Speaker 1: for like three point attempts aside from having like a
Speaker 1: really good uh Clippers.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the Sun the Suns. I'm stuck in many
Speaker 2: minds here the.
Speaker 1: Suns, and you know, having Jones and Morris, you're not,
Speaker 1: first of all, they're not going to mess up that
Speaker 1: salary cap space. You actually maybe now are able to
Speaker 1: have that big three function more like a big three,
Speaker 1: because it felt like at times they were facilitating more
Speaker 1: than anything last season. So I can see where like
Speaker 1: the optimism is. But then there's the other part of
Speaker 1: me that has always looked that the Bradley Beal thing
Speaker 1: as potentially a step in not the best direction for
Speaker 1: the Suns. Like for you, do you feel that there's
Speaker 1: something is going to be different this year? What am
Speaker 1: I missing as someone who is so myopically focused on
Speaker 1: my own terrible team that I am not seeing the sun,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, shine on the Phoenix
Speaker 1: Suns Well.
Speaker 5: I think the question with Bradley's beal will always remain
Speaker 5: his health. How will that affect his incorporation into the
Speaker 5: lineup and his production on the court in the consistent manner.
Speaker 6: We saw that he was plugged in.
Speaker 5: A couple times, was unsuccessful, didn't show up in the
Speaker 5: playoffs pretty much at all.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'll be damned if he gets swept.
Speaker 5: Well, he was damned in fact, you know, so that
Speaker 5: famous quote. But at least we have an idea of
Speaker 5: who will be running the point. There will be no
Speaker 5: question about that in terms of who's getting the ball
Speaker 5: to facilitate too.
Speaker 6: So shooters.
Speaker 5: You mentioned the three point the lack of three point
Speaker 5: shoot which was mind boggling and confusing to everyone here
Speaker 5: as well when you have prolific shooters like Ben Booker
Speaker 5: and Kevin Durant right there.
Speaker 6: So we will we'll.
Speaker 5: Brank Vogel talk a whole lot about how he was
Speaker 5: going to use those weapons, and that never came to fruition,
Speaker 5: as we know. So I think it's just a matter
Speaker 5: of seeing how it all materializes in a way that
Speaker 5: this team can be successful from the jump, because once
Speaker 5: you get in a hole in the West, especially, it's
Speaker 5: tough to come back from. You look ahead to the
Speaker 5: turn of the calendar, the trade Deadline, All Star and
Speaker 5: then suddenly you.
Speaker 6: Know, you're talking magic numbers.
Speaker 5: So it can really snowball when you're talking about the
Speaker 5: health and availability of players, namely Bradley Beal as we
Speaker 5: know just given his career, but I think he's down
Speaker 5: for just being.
Speaker 6: Along for the ride and being a team player.
Speaker 5: His energy has always been positive from my experience and
Speaker 5: interviewing him and speaking with him in practices, so I
Speaker 5: get the feeling that he's whatever role that they want
Speaker 5: to put him in, he is willing to accept and
Speaker 5: hopefully execute as best as he can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an under on this one. I think Vogal
Speaker 3: because I think you missed you lost some coaching value
Speaker 3: in losing Vogel personally.
Speaker 1: Really, I'm actually good friends with Frank Vogel. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to let them meet into this.
Speaker 3: Frank. Uh yeah, I do think it's better that you
Speaker 3: guys have point guards this year. I don't think that
Speaker 3: was Frank Vogel's decision not to have point guards necessarily
Speaker 3: last year, but it's uh yeah, I don't know. You
Speaker 3: guys were like fair like at least KD was fairly
Speaker 3: healthy last year.
Speaker 6: He was the most healthy, played the most minutes, was
Speaker 6: the most effective.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I would love to see it again
Speaker 3: this year, would love to see that we're all we're
Speaker 3: all rooting for I always root for KD teams like
Speaker 3: I root for Lebron teams because I just love those guys.
Speaker 2: But yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: But yeah, bringing that, bringing that Parisian magic back will
Speaker 1: be I think key to all of it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I do as someone who is part of
Speaker 1: a fan base or like we need this kind of
Speaker 1: player and we don't see that kind of player being signed.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 1: As for sons, you identify, like could you some point guards?
Speaker 1: And now you got some and so from that, I
Speaker 1: think I'll just say you're going to.
Speaker 3: Be right in there. I don't know, to like address
Speaker 3: the big dress.
Speaker 5: Rights, the void is the big bone that people had
Speaker 5: to pick you actually.
Speaker 3: Write that, Yeah, yeah, it's novel.
Speaker 2: It's quite not quite novel, like what if that?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the other examples. There was
Speaker 3: that year where Dwayne Wade came back from the Olympics
Speaker 3: and was like it seemed like he had just like
Speaker 3: taken his game up like a couple of notches that
Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like I do feel like
Speaker 3: Devin Booker could have like we might see that with
Speaker 3: Devin Booker.
Speaker 6: I would love to see that, even just as a
Speaker 6: leader on the court, you know, franchise.
Speaker 5: You know, it's time for him to be that front
Speaker 5: facing guy, you know, not that he hasn't been before,
Speaker 5: but just to elevate that in a way that the
Speaker 5: fans can receive and be excited about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seemed like he had a good time in Paris.
Speaker 1: I think I saw a clip of him running into
Speaker 1: someone on the streets in a book or Jersey.
Speaker 5: Can we nominate that short film for an Oscar I'm
Speaker 5: so serious.
Speaker 6: His his camp order really put together from Paris.
Speaker 5: Can that be submitted for any kind of award? Because
Speaker 5: I think just the cinematography, the the original.
Speaker 2: He's an artist, he's a shooter, is exactly exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Uh So you're going, so Lena's got the over, Jack's
Speaker 1: got the under. I'm gonna go slightly under, but not
Speaker 1: too bad because I've read a lot where people are like,
Speaker 1: it's I don't know what the I don't know what
Speaker 1: the sons are thinking, yau. They gave up their entire
Speaker 1: future for Bradley Beal where do you? Where do you
Speaker 1: go from here? But I just feel like it's gotta
Speaker 1: I'm an optimist, so I like to believe that things
Speaker 1: are going to click.
Speaker 3: And I was an optimist last year. It didn't turn out.
Speaker 3: I mean, they they had a good run, some good
Speaker 3: runs there, but it didn't turn out the way that
Speaker 3: I was hoping for it too. So I'm gonna fade
Speaker 3: a little bit on this one. I would say, like,
Speaker 3: we're going to return to the mean or reversion to
Speaker 3: the mean, or whatever smart people say to mean. But
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal, his means seems to be like missing a
Speaker 3: lot of time unfortunately on the injury front. So it
Speaker 3: will be different, hopefully not hopefully it's different and hopefully
Speaker 3: makes that leap, because I do think that's definitely possible.
Speaker 2: Love his shoe too, Love is shoe.
Speaker 6: I was about to say the color waves are fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I gotta say he has it's
Speaker 2: his sneaker.
Speaker 1: It's almost, dare I say, too fashionable for a basketball sneaker,
Speaker 1: Like it almost feels like it doesn't function at because
Speaker 1: it looks like such a smooth like. I just love
Speaker 1: the design of it. I think maybe I just get
Speaker 1: nervous ying really low like low top basketball sneakers, because.
Speaker 2: Then I just hear like a coach in my ear
Speaker 2: being like your ankles wrinkles. But look, that's that's for
Speaker 2: me to work out in my dreams.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that sounds like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, moving on to other things in my dreams. The Lakers.
Speaker 1: In my dreams, we're able to sort out a roster
Speaker 1: that makes sense. And I'm right now we're projected forty
Speaker 1: three and a half wins. That's down three and a
Speaker 1: half games from forty seven from last year.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't, I don't. I like you know how
Speaker 2: it works.
Speaker 1: It's a toxic positivity and I haven't quite quite gotten
Speaker 1: to the point where I'm feeling optimistic. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: need to see something more than Dalton connect that makes
Speaker 1: me feel like, oh maybe, or like footage of Bronzy
Speaker 1: like working on his like you know, the three point
Speaker 1: shooting game. Sure, that all looks great, but again, I
Speaker 1: would love a true big. You know, Austin Reeves said
Speaker 1: we could really use some bigs. Now, I understand for
Speaker 1: us to get the kind of big we want would
Speaker 1: require some real movement of assets, and we are limited
Speaker 1: in that, you know, capacity, So we have to really
Speaker 1: think smartly. Maybe we shouldn't just pile up, you know,
Speaker 1: the kinds of guys we had on minimums like we
Speaker 1: were doing. But my goodness, the inactivity is I don't
Speaker 1: even I don't even know what to make of it.
Speaker 2: For onlookers such as the two of yourselves, how do
Speaker 2: you look at the just static nature of the Lakers offseason?
Speaker 3: We have a note here from from Jabaris and are
Speaker 3: we all just stunned by the relative inactivity? Which is
Speaker 3: just such a Lakers fan not be to be stunned
Speaker 3: by an activity. Why we startled that they didn't get
Speaker 3: better or do anything?
Speaker 5: What is this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you were surprised?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was just kind of odd
Speaker 5: to see there were no additions in the season like crickets.
Speaker 5: But I guess if they found it to be successful
Speaker 5: last season and they can make it all click from the.
Speaker 6: Beginning, and that's what they're going to run with. But
Speaker 6: I do have questions, I have concerns.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would I would probably take the under on
Speaker 5: that forty three and a half.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it feels about right to me, Like I
Speaker 3: don't guess both of these seem about right to me.
Speaker 3: Like the Suns, like, I, you know, forty seven and
Speaker 3: a half feels like even though I don't think they're
Speaker 3: going to win a half a game, so it'll probably
Speaker 3: be either forty seven or forty eight, but like that
Speaker 3: feels about right, and like forty three forty four feels
Speaker 3: about right to me. For the Lakers, what do.
Speaker 2: You think are the Lakers a playing team?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think they'll be thinking so last year that would
Speaker 3: have like put them in the mix to not make
Speaker 3: the plan. Yeah, I guess that would have. They would
Speaker 3: have been the very the twelfth seed last year after everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is which is tough. But again, you know
Speaker 2: there's oh my gosh, I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to pretend like things could get better,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm on like the Max Christie Copium train
Speaker 1: to or like I'm like, you know, maybe we're gonna
Speaker 1: do JJ Reddick can do something different with him, maybe
Speaker 1: he can't really coaches JJ Reddick man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yo, you know I didn't want to say that
Speaker 2: part out.
Speaker 6: Wow, that really happened.
Speaker 2: So now we're so now we're really good?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: Are you still? Are you still right there at forty
Speaker 2: three and a half, taking it down to like thirty.
Speaker 3: I think that makes it interesting, you know, I don't.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 2: Oh that makes it interesting.
Speaker 3: No, it does. Like it's it's a real volatile uh
Speaker 3: you know asset that we've stuck in the which I
Speaker 3: guess that almost always means like bad in uh stock,
Speaker 3: like financial stuff. I don't know, it could go either
Speaker 3: either way with JJ Reddick. Uh yeah, I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I totally memory hold that. I mean, my big thing
Speaker 3: for this one, this like Booker and KD, I feel
Speaker 3: like were about Like Booker was the best role player.
Speaker 3: It's like the Sons aren't looking for that to happen,
Speaker 3: like with the Olympic team, but bron was like the
Speaker 3: best player in the world in the Olympics. Like Ad
Speaker 3: was so good in the Olympics, Like was just like
Speaker 3: peak Ad. Like this is the team where I'm like,
Speaker 3: if we're gonna believe in anyone, like sprinkling some magic
Speaker 3: Olympics Parisian dust on themselves, this would be the one
Speaker 3: where you would want to believe in it. I just
Speaker 3: I think they're really good, like going back to the bubble, right,
Speaker 3: I think they're really good in fine night situations where
Speaker 3: it's not eighty two games, and then like the playoffs
Speaker 3: where you have to play in Denver for a whole
Speaker 3: seven game series and like a series to be like
Speaker 3: old in altitude, I feel like that I just don't
Speaker 3: have as much confidence that it's gonna it's gonna happen,
Speaker 3: but I would love for it too. I feel like
Speaker 3: I have good, a good feeling about them. The winning
Speaker 3: the n season tournament again, but that's new heights or
Speaker 3: the same single eliminate, you know, like that. It's just
Speaker 3: he's so good when he like can just like really
Speaker 3: focus and you know, can serve his energy and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But eighty two games is a lot to
Speaker 3: ask at this point. I feel, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, I am fascinated by what the dynamic is going
Speaker 5: to be with JJ Reddick and his you know peers,
Speaker 5: his you know contemporaries that he's now going to be
Speaker 5: in charge of and managing and having to answer tough questions.
Speaker 2: Too and and make some tough decisions to as a coach.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I like I've read up on his philosophy
Speaker 3: on basketball, and my main takeaway is hair too good.
Speaker 3: His hair too good to be basketball coach. You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't have hair that good and be a good
Speaker 3: basketball coach.
Speaker 6: Of some of it, like at the top at least
Speaker 6: like the credibility.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is there anyone that we would give someone
Speaker 1: hair too good but also great coach?
Speaker 2: What do we think of?
Speaker 3: Chuck Daily had a good hair, but it was a
Speaker 3: floaty like it looked like it could have been cut
Speaker 3: by a floawby.
Speaker 1: So has got a good point, but it's different. Has
Speaker 1: a healthy head of hair, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm talking about like when you go to go, oh.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a cool hair. That's a cool hair,
Speaker 3: a cool hair. As someone who know hair, cool hair,
Speaker 3: cool hair, that's cool hair. His hair always looks wet.
Speaker 3: We've had good coaches whose hair always looks wet, like
Speaker 3: pat Riley's hair always looks wet, and JJ's hair always
Speaker 3: looks wet, but it also looks like he just stepped
Speaker 3: out of the salon A lot of the time. It's
Speaker 3: just like two boy band for me. I think, I think,
Speaker 3: I think he just needs to come in with just
Speaker 3: a real like clean part nerdy ass hairdo just like
Speaker 3: get go to Brad Stevens barber and be like, give
Speaker 3: me the brad. He's like, I know nothing else, and
Speaker 3: you know, gives you the same haircut he's been given
Speaker 3: every other human who sat in his chair for the
Speaker 3: past hundred years, and then like that. I would feel
Speaker 3: better about that. But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Jackson with his flow that yeah, you know, or even
Speaker 1: this is kind of an outsider pick, but long hair
Speaker 1: pop was also a vibe.
Speaker 2: I don't know if, but I was like this, this
Speaker 2: guy's cooking something up.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, have but tissue boxes
Speaker 3: on his feet.
Speaker 2: Let's get in the spruce goose and fly away. Oh man.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm I'm sadly I think I would take
Speaker 2: the under for the Lakers. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I think hair can work in college, like Quinn Snyder
Speaker 3: better better college, had better success in college, you know,
Speaker 3: but like it's too good in the NBA. I really
Speaker 3: think it's just like pat Riley pulling off the eighties.
Speaker 3: Gordon get Go was the most swag coach's hair has
Speaker 3: ever had.
Speaker 2: That's why Patino had that Gordon get Go flow too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he worked out really well in college. But
Speaker 3: you know, so that's that's my one note for you, JJ,
Speaker 3: and I know you're a listener, and I don't want
Speaker 3: you to be mad at me, but that's my that's
Speaker 3: my one note. Man, work on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, less exactly, exactly exactly, all right, take a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk about who they based these win totals.
Speaker 3: DraftKings expects to win the division. It's some one of
Speaker 3: the teams we've talked about so far. We'll be right back,
Speaker 3: and we're back. We are back, and this is specific
Speaker 3: to DraftKings, but it is notable. Like most most of
Speaker 3: these win totals from sportsbook to sportsbook are pretty in
Speaker 3: line with one another. DraftKings has the Kings at fifty
Speaker 3: point five wins. They won forty six last year. Most
Speaker 3: other sports books have them at forty six, forty six
Speaker 3: and a half. This what feels like DraftKings knows something.
Speaker 2: Do they have a DeLorean?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do they have a sports almanac from the year twenty
Speaker 1: one hundred that they're looking at and can make some
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 3: Big and just for them. They signed DeMar DeRozan, acquired
Speaker 3: Jayalen McDaniels. But I mean is the real one, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, for sure got rid of Harrison Barnes.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good fit.
Speaker 1: He's efficient, reliable, he's gonna create, you know, get Darren
Speaker 1: Fox some good looks to get cooking. And again, I
Speaker 1: just hate that the Lakers haven't done a single thing
Speaker 1: to address their problems that were so apparent on paper.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you did mention that, that does I see you.
Speaker 1: Mentioned that in the context of every Like, when I
Speaker 1: look at this, I'm like this. I would have loved them,
Speaker 1: anyone would have loved.
Speaker 3: Nice for you guys.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, anything honestly, But I I guess is that really,
Speaker 1: like is that really the key? Because the way that
Speaker 1: they're the DraftKings are the DraftKings projections are working. It's
Speaker 1: almost like and this is the final piece of that light,
Speaker 1: the beam permanently, forever and ever and evermore, the eternal flame.
Speaker 2: The beam of the beam of love. Beam. Uh, Lena,
Speaker 2: what's your do you think that this is? It is
Speaker 2: fifty and a half at Where do you? Where are you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Where are you at? I saw your shine.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm yes. That made me scrunch up my face
Speaker 6: a little bit.
Speaker 5: That's a bit surprising, I will say I do think,
Speaker 5: based of course on last season and the addition of
Speaker 5: DeMar Derozen, they probably have a good chance to win
Speaker 5: the division.
Speaker 6: For whatever that's worth.
Speaker 5: I think they will give the teams within that division
Speaker 5: more of a run for their money than they're expecting to.
Speaker 5: These are not the Kings of old. They are still
Speaker 5: on the upswing. Their ceiling has yet to be reached
Speaker 5: as a team. And with some of the moves with
Speaker 5: say like the Warriors and some of their other foes
Speaker 5: that they faced in the postseason and have faced throughout
Speaker 5: the regular season that they've given them fits, I think
Speaker 5: that they've met that place where they're able to find
Speaker 5: cohesive play on the court consistently and yes, keep that
Speaker 5: beam lit, and I think tomar de rozen being that
Speaker 5: X factor to that. Quite sure about that, but I
Speaker 5: am very intrigued to see how that all comes together
Speaker 5: and how Mike Brown can operate with this new big piece.
Speaker 6: And I mean the.
Speaker 5: Bonus has been their their glue guy in terms of
Speaker 5: just being able to find that success that they have
Speaker 5: been missing on a consistent level. And as long as
Speaker 5: he's healthy and as long as Darin's going, this team
Speaker 5: can go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like just seeing that, I was like,
Speaker 1: that was the one of all the teams we're talking about.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can foresee the improvement. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, I can see how that works
Speaker 1: without being a little bit like I don't know about
Speaker 1: this and now I don't know if it's the huge
Speaker 1: jump that DraftKings has projected, but I definitely see that.
Speaker 1: You can already see, like with just how aggressive Damar
Speaker 1: is going to the rim, like he's just going to
Speaker 1: create those looks just collapsing. D's kicking it out and
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, three balls raining down upon us.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I guess to see them address the
Speaker 1: thing you know that they just I.
Speaker 3: Think I'm under on the Draft Kings. Yeah, under on
Speaker 3: Draft Kings over on the other sports books. If two
Speaker 3: to three wins lower, what.
Speaker 2: Would you what would you say if an improvement on
Speaker 2: forty six.
Speaker 3: From last year, I think they could be forty I'd
Speaker 3: say like forty eight forty nine feels about right for them.
Speaker 3: I can just like see people being like the addition
Speaker 3: of Demarto Rosen quietly like takes the Kings up to
Speaker 3: a new level. He just feels like one of those
Speaker 3: players who has been hiding out in Chicago, like, you know,
Speaker 3: just being amazing in games that weren't super consequential, but
Speaker 3: like when when you watched it was always something to behold.
Speaker 3: He was always really really good. Yeah, so I feel
Speaker 3: like I like where they're headed. There's just too many
Speaker 3: good teams in the West. But I do think I
Speaker 3: could see them picking up a win or two. Do
Speaker 3: you think so, Lena?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think they I don't know if four to
Speaker 5: five wins more is going to be what they see, but.
Speaker 6: You know they're going to be a team, a dark horse,
Speaker 6: I would say in the West.
Speaker 5: It's going to be I think, really competitive, you know,
Speaker 5: in spring after the trade deadline, and that's going to
Speaker 5: be exciting for all fans to watch, and every game
Speaker 5: is going to mean that much more.
Speaker 6: But then again, every game in.
Speaker 5: October is going to mean so much more because you
Speaker 5: can't let those ones go when you're thinking about every
Speaker 5: possible tiebreaker situation, you could be looking ahead to.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well the Lakers will get off to a
Speaker 2: solid two and eighteen start.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, it always starts.
Speaker 2: We always love that.
Speaker 3: We love to start.
Speaker 2: Star on Ellie folks. Moving on Golden State.
Speaker 1: Now this one, I'm h I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what to make of the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 2: I I mean, I my heart says.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think we can put a bow
Speaker 1: on this one, uh and just kind of begin to
Speaker 1: plan for the future here. But forty three and a
Speaker 1: half is what's predicted with Caesars. That would be what
Speaker 1: that would be down about two and a half games
Speaker 1: last season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they got Melton, who is one of
Speaker 3: my favorite seventy six ers over the past couple of
Speaker 3: years when he was healthy. Obviously wasn't healthy a lot
Speaker 3: last season. But I think that's a great addition. I
Speaker 3: think that that's probably an underrated edition. And you know,
Speaker 3: Clay was I don't I don't know how much he
Speaker 3: was helping them last season.
Speaker 1: I mean I know how much helped him in that
Speaker 1: last game they played, Yeah, and it was not at all.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know, did you feel too,
Speaker 1: because it felt like at times he felt it. Clay
Speaker 1: looked a little down, you know, like as he was
Speaker 1: sort of reckoning with his own sort of skill set diminishing,
Speaker 1: or he felt like he's like, yeah, it's kind of definitely.
Speaker 1: I think I had better days, but now I have
Speaker 1: to deal with I'm on the other side of my career.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Do you think his presence may
Speaker 2: have been a distraction.
Speaker 1: Do you think that will be something that will just
Speaker 1: be missed because of his many years in Golden State
Speaker 1: in that locker room, or you think it just might
Speaker 1: just net out to like a plus minus zero, like
Speaker 1: a neutral effect on the team.
Speaker 6: I think it might have a neutral effect.
Speaker 5: I mean I was thinking, you know, life without Clay,
Speaker 5: but of course they've lived life without Clay for many
Speaker 5: seasons in recent seasons, just given his unfortunate injury history.
Speaker 5: But absolutely, I think just the finality of it, and
Speaker 5: knowing that this was coming up and likely coming to
Speaker 5: an end of this era, it's a cloud hanging over
Speaker 5: the locker room, and of course they're going to remain
Speaker 5: friends side of this team dynamic. But I think just
Speaker 5: moving on from that, I think they also added Buddy Heeld,
Speaker 5: so you supplement a little bit of three point shooting in.
Speaker 1: That Jack did not mention Buddy our famous I watched
Speaker 1: I watched Jack not mention Buddy right there.
Speaker 2: He said Anthony Melton.
Speaker 3: And I mentioned Melton, I mentioned Kyle Anderson. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know. As a seventy six Ers fan who coveted
Speaker 3: Buddy Heel, you know there, he was always mentioned and
Speaker 3: the trade talked and then he finally came over. And
Speaker 3: I will just say, and it might might be our fault,
Speaker 3: might be just the seventy six ers vibe. But it
Speaker 3: felt a little underwhelming. Obviously, the the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 3: know what to do with shooting. But I think Melton
Speaker 3: and Kyle Anderson are going to be really good additions there.
Speaker 3: That's That's what I'll said.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I could. I'm I think I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go under.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Yeah, a loss of two and a half wins,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over. Actually on this one, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say that they're about at the same win total they
Speaker 3: were at last year, Right, forty.
Speaker 2: Six, Lena, you're scrunching the face too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll go over. It's forty three and a half.
Speaker 3: Forty three and a half.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'll go slightly over. I'll take you over,
Speaker 6: just a scooch.
Speaker 2: What do we think Kaminga's contributional be this season? Because
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like there was like there was
Speaker 1: a lot of contention around his involvement and now I'm like,
Speaker 1: is he going to make some kind of step up?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be Puzzimski? Like there's these other
Speaker 2: players on the fringes?
Speaker 1: Yeah that I'm just like, who among you can fill
Speaker 1: in the gaps to kind of make this season memorable
Speaker 1: for a not a painful reason because I just part
Speaker 1: of me just feels just sees like a downward trajectory
Speaker 1: that I'm not sure they can fully kind of stop
Speaker 1: at this point.
Speaker 2: And I say that as somebody who's also on the
Speaker 2: sinking ship.
Speaker 3: So I just have to say love too.
Speaker 2: I know, I know how I sound right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't. I don't know what cominga. I mean,
Speaker 3: Kamenga seems like he's up and down and like people
Speaker 3: thought he was. He was obviously a little bit better
Speaker 3: last year, But I don't feel like I know enough
Speaker 3: about Kamega and his off season to know what he's
Speaker 3: going to do this year. But like that my over
Speaker 3: under doesn't really take him in. Sure, Sure it's more
Speaker 3: than two guys they added in the loss of Clay,
Speaker 3: which feels like at this point, was he Clay wasn't
Speaker 3: really responsible for many wins above replacement.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Yeah, I think it's I think it's going
Speaker 5: to be a question of who who's going to be
Speaker 5: the auxiliary guy to jeaf And granted, any team that
Speaker 5: has Stephen Curry on it is probably going to be
Speaker 5: successful one way or another. And oh man, put it
Speaker 5: on his back and make it happen. But you're talking
Speaker 5: about eighty two games plus of that, right, and.
Speaker 3: You know, but if he shoots like he did in
Speaker 3: the at the end of that France game the whole season,
Speaker 3: just a step, can you extend that entire.
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter performance in the gold medal game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only game tape they show for the
Speaker 3: whole season. Yeah, Steve Kurtz like, bro, you know what,
Speaker 3: you know what we were doing in Paris. Just let's
Speaker 3: keep doing that, Just keep doing that, and we'll be
Speaker 3: all right, will.
Speaker 6: Be all right for America?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and say bon nui, as they say
Speaker 1: in French good night.
Speaker 2: The Clippers are the last team we're going to cover here.
Speaker 7: He said that, so just unassuming the Clippers and look
Speaker 7: at this, what well one games last season and now
Speaker 7: they're projected to win forty and a half.
Speaker 2: That seems even as someone.
Speaker 1: Who as a as a rival, I'm like, that feels
Speaker 1: a little extreme. Uh, but I mean losing Paul George
Speaker 1: feels like a thing. A lot of fans were like,
Speaker 1: why huh, Jack, I know you you have now.
Speaker 2: You will welcome him into your Philadelphian.
Speaker 3: Embrace, m M city of brother leil.
Speaker 1: You feel you feel on your end, because I was
Speaker 1: what was the someone was putting out like how some
Speaker 1: coaches were rating the other team's offseason moves, and some
Speaker 1: people were like, Philly, Philly taking Paul George was in l.
Speaker 1: But then other people were like, Clippers losing Paul George wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who this one person was who thought
Speaker 1: that that was an l in that direction.
Speaker 3: Coach Stephen A. Smith, Yeah, I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it could work out great if he stays
Speaker 3: healthy and yeah, sure, and Beid stays healthy. And there's
Speaker 3: just a lot of ifs for the seventy six ers
Speaker 3: and the Clippers still despite you know, Paul George, who
Speaker 3: whose health can be spotty, leaving the team, Uh, still
Speaker 3: have some ifs it turns out, Yeah, Kawhi Leonard and
Speaker 3: James Harden. I was big Kawhi, Like, guys, did you
Speaker 3: see how good he was in the beginning of the
Speaker 3: play in the game and a half he played before
Speaker 3: last year. And now I am no longer on I'm
Speaker 3: no longer that guy that it's that man is dead.
Speaker 3: The man said that about Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard, I mean because like you think about
Speaker 1: all the the pieces they moved to, like get Kawhi
Speaker 1: and PG and then get James Harden and now the
Speaker 1: expectations are like I mean, every time it was like
Speaker 1: we are we feel the Warriors are like maybe on
Speaker 1: a potential downward trend, maybe this is our time to
Speaker 1: now move in and try and take up that mantle.
Speaker 2: But with a new stadium and everything, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, it feels feels a little bit dodgy, uh, from
Speaker 1: my from from my vantage point. And I say that
Speaker 1: as somebody who who is counting on them to perform
Speaker 1: worse than Lakers, And I don't know if they'll be
Speaker 1: that bad, but I am invested. Lena, What's how are
Speaker 1: you feeling about the Clippers? Is this like does it
Speaker 1: reset time?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, you can there might be something here.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they definitely already reset with the
Speaker 5: movement of two of their big stars, you know, in
Speaker 5: Russell Westbrook and Paul George, and I think it's hard
Speaker 5: to be a believer in Kawhi Leonard sadly, just to
Speaker 5: see his production on the court materialize remains a question
Speaker 5: every night every season.
Speaker 6: So I think it's tough to see them going to
Speaker 6: a deep run in the playoffs. I would say forty wins,
Speaker 6: I'll take the over. I think that yes, is an
Speaker 6: aggressive drop.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if they are going to find
Speaker 5: the success that they need to given what they have
Speaker 5: invested in this roster and what.
Speaker 6: They have given up in recent seasons to try and
Speaker 6: make it all work.
Speaker 5: And I think the most exciting thing will be this
Speaker 5: new stadium arena. I mean, shooting T shirts from the
Speaker 5: top of the Halo scoreboard.
Speaker 6: For fans, you know, and the wall.
Speaker 3: If you're a wall on that team, that's exciting. That's
Speaker 3: what you want to hear that the most exciting thing
Speaker 3: about the team is going to be the.
Speaker 2: Scoreboard, inanimate object that's part of the.
Speaker 3: Team that you just made Miles so happy. Lena I mean,
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: Look the fact is that it looks fantastic, Like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see you what that place looks like.
Speaker 1: And I know that, look, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: fourth fiddle at the Staples Center after the Lakers, Kings
Speaker 1: and concerts. But you know, I think the the wall,
Speaker 1: I think is one of the most interesting things like
Speaker 1: about how they are really like you know, just the
Speaker 1: shape of that arena because you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of money going into it. The only thing though, too,
Speaker 1: is like the cost of the tickets is not low either,
Speaker 1: like they You're definitely looks like probably getting your money's
Speaker 1: worth based on what I'm seeing for what these first
Speaker 1: game ticket prices are looking like on the prime are
Speaker 1: they talking about like Lower Bowl is like three grand?
Speaker 1: Whoa for a Clippers ticket for the first game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now it's the first game, mind you. Like, so it's
Speaker 1: definitely has the energy of like we're we're popping circumstance.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we're let's pop champagne on this thing. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like whoa, whoa, that seems
Speaker 1: like a lot. Now I'm sure that maybe the ticket
Speaker 1: market will fluctuate, but either way, there's a.
Speaker 6: Lot of game there featuring Kaitlin Clark or is it.
Speaker 3: Starget point guard? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I yeah, I think that I
Speaker 2: have to go to the over though.
Speaker 1: I will go the over though, because forty and a
Speaker 1: half just seems like I was a little it was
Speaker 1: like absurd.
Speaker 2: It's just absurd.
Speaker 6: But you talk about teams eating the l's, are the
Speaker 6: Clippers going to be that team? Then?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But are they going to fall ten and a
Speaker 2: half games?
Speaker 1: I could, like, I could see them eating a solid six,
Speaker 1: you know, down to maybe what forty four ish, forty
Speaker 1: five ish?
Speaker 3: Kawhi was healthy last year, like Kawhi was had a
Speaker 3: very healthy season for Kawhi Leonards last year relatively speaking, Yeah,
Speaker 3: relatively speaking, very healthy. Uh, they're losing Paul George James
Speaker 3: Harden has his moments, so I think this is about right.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll go under on this one despite whoa.
Speaker 2: Yeah what wow?
Speaker 3: With three of forty Yeah, I can see that. Oh right, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say that too.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just seem like a full on
Speaker 1: Laker fan though, But I think I think they'll win
Speaker 1: twenty two games anyway, that's.
Speaker 2: What that's my feeling.
Speaker 3: Jabari just pointed out the last year was the most
Speaker 3: games played by Kawhi Leonards since twenty sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I hope for optimism abounds for their fan base.
Speaker 1: The new logo looks great. The new logo looks great.
Speaker 1: I will say that looks fantastic.
Speaker 5: Does it.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to pile on. I don't
Speaker 3: want to pile on.
Speaker 2: That's why I said a compliment.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's why you said that with a I
Speaker 3: had something.
Speaker 2: In my eye, something in my eye on the side
Speaker 2: of it. That's why I said that.
Speaker 1: I was I saw some of my perith anyway, that's
Speaker 1: going to do it for this section of checking out
Speaker 1: what is happening.
Speaker 3: With the big vision. But that's lock. Those in those
Speaker 3: are all those. It's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: different like sports podcasts are like okay, and this one's
Speaker 3: a lot Every single one of the ones that I
Speaker 3: gave you is.
Speaker 2: A lock twenty two win projection for the Clippers and
Speaker 2: c k lock.
Speaker 1: Okay, take that to Love Bank all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back to put our
Speaker 1: very dear friend Lena Washington in the hottest of hot
Speaker 1: seats for the rapid fire round of questioning.
Speaker 4: Read it for this, and we're back, and we are back.
Speaker 2: Oh Lena, Look, we love having you.
Speaker 3: Look, look, we love having.
Speaker 5: Ever.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to do it to you. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the hot seat. You already know what
Speaker 2: it is. It's the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It's the rapid fire round of questioning, quick questions, quicker answers,
Speaker 1: no filler, you.
Speaker 3: Get me, Myles. Why doesn't she look scared because she's
Speaker 3: she knows you did the evil laugh.
Speaker 2: I know she's unfazed. She's a competitor.
Speaker 3: She looked like she was trying not to as in Phoenix.
Speaker 5: So you say hot, I have to laugh at that idea,
Speaker 5: because whatever hot you're talking about, I guarantee.
Speaker 6: You I'm experiencing hotter out here.
Speaker 1: I think, quick question, I'd hate to sidetrack. Have you
Speaker 1: ever left something out in the Arizona heat and it
Speaker 1: just got ruined? You're like I left my sandal outside
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 5: Absolutely I mean mainly like chocolate bars and you know
Speaker 5: wax hands.
Speaker 6: You know, you go to the Renaiss Festival.
Speaker 5: One you get like a wax statue and then you
Speaker 5: leave it on your mantle and then you come home
Speaker 5: from school one day in May and it's your peace sign.
Speaker 6: Looks more like uh yeah, yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 6: that has happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because there was we had a heat wave
Speaker 1: and I had a sandal that shrunk in size.
Speaker 3: Oh it was weird.
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't have to.
Speaker 6: The ground.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: No, there's that's I'm like, yo, I think these are
Speaker 1: this is what I get for buying seven dollars because
Speaker 1: they were.
Speaker 2: Like shrinky dinks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like okay, soaking water for three days before using.
Speaker 6: Like the little the little foam dinosaurs.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't know what happened. Anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get some of those Arizona sandals. I can handle the
Speaker 1: Arizona in the.
Speaker 3: Sun, but here Jabari noted one hundred straight days of
Speaker 3: one hundred plus degree temperatures seventy six was the previous record.
Speaker 6: That was last year.
Speaker 3: That's yo, that is intense and that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Well okay, well, look, I don't want to keep you
Speaker 1: knowing that you are your the clock is running also
Speaker 1: against the time of the sun and its heat.
Speaker 6: So we were I want you to know, like you're
Speaker 6: talking hot we know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, sorry, more of a like we so
Speaker 3: our legal team has asked us to clarify. It's more
Speaker 3: of an itchy seat. It's actually it's just kind of
Speaker 3: like uncomfortable. It's like, do you have any allergies?
Speaker 6: Like, are you gonna need a cream after that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, it's just more irritating. It's no, it's just irritating.
Speaker 1: I think that was the word.
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 1: This segment seems more irritating than anything. And really, well,
Speaker 1: you know that it all depends on them.
Speaker 3: Right anyway? Clock? Oh my god, he's so mad.
Speaker 2: Lena Washington, I'm gonna start off. You know how these
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't vouch for him like this. Stay
Speaker 3: out of this. I told you.
Speaker 2: If you're not with me, you're against me too.
Speaker 6: The viewers.
Speaker 1: Okay, first question, Lena, and this is up, and I
Speaker 1: must ask are you from the state of Arizona?
Speaker 2: Are you born and raised?
Speaker 6: I am born and race.
Speaker 1: Okay, then you should nail this part, this one out
Speaker 1: of the Park, Lena, Washington.
Speaker 2: What is the state bird of Arizona?
Speaker 6: The cactus run?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Wow, no, hesitas, absolutely you.
Speaker 6: Missus Mallan's third grade.
Speaker 3: Class cactus wren. Miles Gray. You were born and raised
Speaker 3: in California. What is the state bird of California?
Speaker 6: I got that one for you too. I got that
Speaker 6: one for you too. It's a condor.
Speaker 2: It's no, it's the quail.
Speaker 3: Oh in California quail. Yeah, California kuayel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, official state bird.
Speaker 5: I did that.
Speaker 1: It was one of our most important birds because it
Speaker 1: was on the brink of extinction. I remember doing a
Speaker 1: book report on that in third grade. And I do
Speaker 1: know that our flower is the golden poppy. What is
Speaker 1: the state flower of Arizona?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: That is a good question, is it? I don't know.
Speaker 6: A desert a cactus rose.
Speaker 2: It's the tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Rose, just to worrow, just the plane o.
Speaker 3: The blossom of the of the And we're getting California
Speaker 3: bird because I thought California condor also was the official
Speaker 3: bird of California, the California condor. And then they were like,
Speaker 3: our state birds should have a stupid little hat. We
Speaker 3: should make it the California quail. Because they get it's
Speaker 3: got like a little wear hat. Well, the quail has
Speaker 3: like a little Yeah, it looks kind of like a flapper.
Speaker 3: It's cute.
Speaker 6: It's cute.
Speaker 1: It changed in nineteen thirty one, so I don't know
Speaker 1: who was who previously was the holder of that title
Speaker 1: from nineteen thirty one and then before that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: all that to say is we have to keep this moving.
Speaker 1: It's not about my knowledge of my own state, which
Speaker 1: I barely have a grasp on. It's about yours. And
Speaker 1: you've actually nailed this.
Speaker 3: Producer Jabari unfortunately gave us the said answer to my question.
Speaker 3: The condor went extinct in eighty seven, so that's why.
Speaker 6: Or get loose on the ice baker Field.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yes, famously in the wild.
Speaker 6: That's plansom.
Speaker 3: They actually only exist at hockey games. I don't know
Speaker 3: all right. Is the nineteen ninety five All Star Game
Speaker 3: uniform the best ever?
Speaker 5: I would say, yes, It's got all you want from
Speaker 5: a Phoenix centric All Star jersey. I mean, the purple,
Speaker 5: the sunburst, the spawn, just everything about it I think
Speaker 5: just resonates and speaks to the Southwest.
Speaker 3: It looks like an arts and crafts project. My eight
Speaker 3: year old would do at school. Oh, that's actually a
Speaker 3: good thing because it's like really bringing nineteen ninety five energy.
Speaker 3: You know, well, yeah, your kids. It's got like a
Speaker 3: cutout cactus right.
Speaker 5: Almost any fashion from the nineteen nineties. If you asked
Speaker 5: me about it, I will defend it. I'm sorry, dobas
Speaker 5: whatever you know, bright colors, the crint hair, anything and
Speaker 5: everything that says nineties.
Speaker 2: It okay.
Speaker 3: Next question is the correct answer.
Speaker 1: Lina Washington of the state of Arizona. What is your
Speaker 1: favorite non Arizona Arizona brand? Is it Arizona Jeans Company
Speaker 1: or Arizona Iced Tea, both famously not from Arizona, but
Speaker 1: using the name.
Speaker 2: To evoke a whimsical Southwestern image in our minds.
Speaker 6: It would have to be Arizona Iced Tea.
Speaker 5: Just formative memories of getting a can for the road
Speaker 5: on the way to a movie or the park, or
Speaker 5: you know, it's just a good old standby.
Speaker 6: And there are variations of the can.
Speaker 5: The best flavor I typically go for either the sweet
Speaker 5: tea or the good old green ginseing honey. Yeah, personally,
Speaker 5: so depending on how we're doing it. But you have
Speaker 5: like the mango flavor, you have a I think a
Speaker 5: watermelon flavor.
Speaker 6: Got the raspberry. You've got whatever you need.
Speaker 5: Arizona iced Tea's got you, and they're not going to
Speaker 5: cost you more than two bucks ide.
Speaker 6: It's that thing absolutely.
Speaker 2: Because it's still affordable. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The fans are designed by the same people who designed
Speaker 3: the nineteen ninety five All Star Game uniform. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's checks out, all right, Lena, What alternate reality scenario
Speaker 3: do you wish really happened? If you could just like
Speaker 3: take one like so for instance, this comes from Paul
Speaker 3: Garaventa in the discord, who says, for me, it's what
Speaker 3: if the Blazers had drafted Kevin Durant over Odum. They
Speaker 3: already had Brandon Roy and Aldridge and assuming they still
Speaker 3: got Andre Miller and Marcus can Be the following season,
Speaker 3: that is a solid lineup. What say you? What is
Speaker 3: what is a what if it gets you excited?
Speaker 5: I mean the recency bias for me, and just because
Speaker 5: I was working in the market at the time, would
Speaker 5: be if the King's drafted Luke instead of Marvin Bagley
Speaker 5: and that draft, how.
Speaker 3: Do you think that would have been better? Well, it's
Speaker 3: not like everyone was saying that at the.
Speaker 6: Time, definitely not definitely not How how you know the
Speaker 6: career trajectory of Luca.
Speaker 5: And Deer and Blotti, Divots and Kajasriyokovic, who are part
Speaker 5: of the front office at the time, Just how that
Speaker 5: would have expedited the success this franchise experience and all
Speaker 5: the questions surrounding the competence of the front office. How
Speaker 5: those questions would have been suspended, likely for quite some time.
Speaker 6: I would think.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have been the Kings, though, it wouldn't be
Speaker 3: the Kings, you know, so.
Speaker 5: The Kings are going to They were definitely King Kings
Speaker 5: and Kings. But yeah, that's that's the quickest alternate reality
Speaker 5: that I can think too.
Speaker 3: For me, it's always going to be what if the
Speaker 3: Philadelphia'sleveties victors had traded Ben Simmons instead of letting Jimmy
Speaker 3: Butler go to them heat. I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: even a realistic scenario because I think Jimmy Butler wanted out,
Speaker 3: But like, you could have gotten really good value for
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons. And everybody's heard me say this already, so
Speaker 3: but I can't stop myself when this sort of question.
Speaker 2: Comes up alternate realities can be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, that team was man b roy I
Speaker 1: was that was like one of the first non Laker
Speaker 1: jerseys I wanted to buy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, this feels. This feels I like this
Speaker 3: game like this guy.
Speaker 1: Well, Lena Washington, you've actually answered every single question correctly.
Speaker 3: Someone, are you looking at our answers?
Speaker 6: I have a copy of the brick and the key
Speaker 6: on my hand.
Speaker 2: That's whine. You sold this.
Speaker 1: You sold this because those answers came out so organically
Speaker 1: and so natural and so accurately.
Speaker 3: Thing is like legitimately, who knows that that's important?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was you do.
Speaker 6: On the Five Seas, which I think I would have
Speaker 6: stumbled on, to be.
Speaker 3: Honest, the Five Seas.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Arizona. You know copper citrus cattle climate and hotten.
Speaker 2: Copper cattle, cotton citrus climate.
Speaker 5: Wow, yes, yes, those were the foundational the foundational economic
Speaker 5: drivers of people to Arizona.
Speaker 6: That is one hundred correct, Jack.
Speaker 1: But when we're not talking about the problematic cotton either,
Speaker 1: hopefully I know enough history to know that.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that kind.
Speaker 6: I don't know how south we were in the southeast.
Speaker 2: Predicted will cut.
Speaker 1: Lena Thank you again so much for joining us, blessing
Speaker 1: our show, classing up the joint with your Emmy Award
Speaker 1: winning presence.
Speaker 2: Where do the people find mony?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, three multi Emmy Award one friend.
Speaker 6: I count it like beest. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm always a pleasure to be on with you guys.
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Speaker 5: Which driving the bus here.
Speaker 3: You Which of the which of the iconic three point
Speaker 3: celebrations did you do after winning your third Emmy? Did
Speaker 3: you do the three to the head like Carmelo or Yeah?
Speaker 5: Probably that's probably my go although you know the guys
Speaker 5: that USA Basketball said Drew Holidays, you know, a little.
Speaker 6: Like that was the crowd favorite.
Speaker 5: But I think, you know, Bogdan Bogdanovitch can't be doing
Speaker 5: all that, but I think I can get away with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely mellow and on big stages and whatnot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 6: But I will look for my five Timers jersey or
Speaker 6: hat in the in the mail.
Speaker 3: No, it's gone, it's going, it's going, it's coming. It's
Speaker 3: not there yet.
Speaker 4: Oh my, what I haven't been, so.
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Speaker 2: Sure, because that's weird. That's weird because I know it
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Speaker 2: and everything.
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