Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with and Gavin and I
Speaker 1: heard radio podcast What's Up? Everybody? Back with another episode
Speaker 1: of How Men Think? It's Gavin DeGraw. Unfortunately, my beautiful
Speaker 1: co host, Brooks like is unavailable today to do the show.
Speaker 1: But fortunately we have another beautiful, beautiful step in for
Speaker 1: the day. My good friend Mr Wills Adams is here
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go through and talk to some professionals
Speaker 1: about what's going on in the world. Wellsi there, man, man,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. What in the hell could Brooks
Speaker 1: be doing? Right? No one has anything to do right now.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but apparently during the gigantic worldwide
Speaker 1: pause of action, Brooks has a very busy schedule and
Speaker 1: can no longer be here with us today. Well good
Speaker 1: for him, and I'm glad someone's making some money out there.
Speaker 1: I guess he must be working on the cure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well good, hurry up because I'm getting a little uh
Speaker 1: stir crazy. But thank you so much for be on
Speaker 1: the show. How are you now? I haven't seen you
Speaker 1: sense man and Pebble Beach for the uh, the A,
Speaker 1: T and T pro and how you been man? Been great? Man,
Speaker 1: been great? And then not so great because this whole
Speaker 1: thing hit and first I was awesome, and then I realized,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see anybody for quite some time, except
Speaker 1: unless I have to go to the grocery store. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It is Nashville, bananas. Is Nashville completely shut down? Like
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is a ghost town right now? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: I forget about it. It's crazy. I mean, usually if
Speaker 1: you were on Broadway in Nashville, which is really the
Speaker 1: the epicenter of activity and nightlife, it's sort of like,
Speaker 1: uh an amusement park of drunkenness and partying. Uh. Usually
Speaker 1: you'd see just an absolute sea of people having the
Speaker 1: time of their lives. Uh. And now if you go
Speaker 1: down there to that same street, it's basically just a
Speaker 1: jogging path for the occasional person who wants to be
Speaker 1: out taking a a little loper. Yeah. Well, we're definitely
Speaker 1: raising We're living in some weird times, man, And I
Speaker 1: think this show is going to be helpful for a
Speaker 1: lot of people out there feeling the same thing that
Speaker 1: we're feeling. And so we've lined up a bunch of
Speaker 1: really good guests to kind of like get us through
Speaker 1: this situation coming up in a little bit we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk to Dr abe Um. I mean this guy is
Speaker 1: uh super like into knowing everything that's happening with the pandemic,
Speaker 1: how people are dealing with it, what people should be who,
Speaker 1: what people should be getting tested out there. We're gonna
Speaker 1: ask him all those questions, um that you probably have yourself,
Speaker 1: and then very excited, a little bit later, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have Candice Cameron. You know her from DJ from Full House,
Speaker 1: full Er. He's amazing. Her brother and her, Kirk Cameron
Speaker 1: and Cannis Cameron are putting on this thing called Hope Rising,
Speaker 1: which is basically just raising money um for the people
Speaker 1: that are really on the front lines helping out and
Speaker 1: trying to get this pandemic behind us. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out all about that, and then a little bit later
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Dr Vivan. She is the doctor of
Speaker 1: Marriage and Family therapy, uh and the certified sex therapist
Speaker 1: and the expert on the show Married at First Sight.
Speaker 1: So for all of you, uh you know, crazy cool
Speaker 1: cats and kittens out there who are wanting to kill
Speaker 1: your spouse, Dr Viv is going to explain why you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. I'm very excited to be guest hosting
Speaker 1: this episode of How Men Think. Um Man, We're lucky
Speaker 1: to have you, man, lucky to have you. Let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and when we come back, let's talk
Speaker 1: to dr Ab. Yeah, perfectly, let's get to it and
Speaker 1: we are back on the How Many Think Podcast. Wells
Speaker 1: Adams uh philling in for Brooks. Gavin is on the
Speaker 1: phone all the way over in Nashville, and we are
Speaker 1: bringing into bringing into the show right now, dr Abe
Speaker 1: malc And he's a founder and medical director of Concierge
Speaker 1: m d l A. It's a home based concierge medical
Speaker 1: practice in Los Angeles that focuses on well care as
Speaker 1: opposed to sick care. We've got a lot of questions,
Speaker 1: Doc about this pandemic. Why does vaccine? That's a good question.
Speaker 1: There's multiple steps that go into creating a vaccine. So
Speaker 1: it starts with identifying the virus, sequencing the viral genotype,
Speaker 1: replicating that into a lab. These are steps that we've
Speaker 1: actually gotten fairly good progress on so far. The next
Speaker 1: step off to that is to figure out what delivery
Speaker 1: mechanism to get it into animal studies, which is the
Speaker 1: first step, and then you need to do uh, small
Speaker 1: scale human trials where you test this efficacy and the
Speaker 1: safety of the virus, of the of the vaccine, and
Speaker 1: then ultimately can be widely distributed. But we all know
Speaker 1: that with vaccines there's a ton of controversy and we
Speaker 1: has to be done safely because the last thing you
Speaker 1: want us to create a vaccine where actually infects people
Speaker 1: and doesn't give them immunity. This is I don't know, unprecedented.
Speaker 1: I guess it's like nineteen eighteen or whatever. But um,
Speaker 1: are we or is the medical community kind of like
Speaker 1: skipping steps in the creation of this vaccine because they
Speaker 1: want to get this thing fixed sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1: So essentially all laboratories are diverting their efforts from other
Speaker 1: vaccines to the coronavirus vaccine. So there's vaccines that are
Speaker 1: being worked on for malaria and other drugs that all
Speaker 1: those resources are now being imported into coronavirus. So in
Speaker 1: that sense, yes, So I have a question regarding that
Speaker 1: how how much information sharing is there between in each
Speaker 1: of those labs or as each one of these labs
Speaker 1: kind of working independently trying to come up with their
Speaker 1: own uh solution. Yeah, I don't know. The exact answer
Speaker 1: to that question. But you know, you do see reports
Speaker 1: of like Bill Gates Foundation, for example, working with government
Speaker 1: agencies because he's got a very robust infrastructure for developing vaccines.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure there's some inter disciplinary into government agencies cooperation. Um.
Speaker 1: But that being said, I would imagine countries are trying
Speaker 1: to win the race of developing a vaccine because it's
Speaker 1: very you know, uh impactful for their own country and
Speaker 1: their reputation in the world. Right h. I don't know if,
Speaker 1: if if this has been like confirmed, but you know,
Speaker 1: the news that I watch, you know, talks about these
Speaker 1: wet markets in China, and like there's a good chance
Speaker 1: that's where this thing derived from, whether that's a reality
Speaker 1: or not, Like how just dangerous are those places? And
Speaker 1: like why is it if they are dangerous, why is
Speaker 1: it acceptable for them to continue to be operating. That's
Speaker 1: a really good question, and I don't think the copy
Speaker 1: utit this answer. I don't we don't know exactly when
Speaker 1: the virus came from, you know. There I'm not a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist by any means, but there is actually bio
Speaker 1: laboratory in Wuhan Infectious which is doing infectious disease studies.
Speaker 1: So it's a coincidence that that city happened to be
Speaker 1: the city where this all started. So I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it started in the wet market, but the
Speaker 1: theory with behind wet markets is that, yeah, you're bringing
Speaker 1: in animals who have diseases and there's unsanitary conditions. Most
Speaker 1: diseases don't transfer from animals to humans, but clearly COVID can,
Speaker 1: and you know stars before it. Uh. So the answer
Speaker 1: your question is if we had the control to shut
Speaker 1: down wet markets, I'm sure we would, but they're in
Speaker 1: a sovereign country that we can't control, so there's not
Speaker 1: much we can do about that. So so what can
Speaker 1: we as the average UH citizen due to bolster our
Speaker 1: immune system? Is there other than eating healthy? I mean?
Speaker 1: Is there? I mean, is is there anything we can
Speaker 1: really do other than just isolating ourselves? Yeah? I mean,
Speaker 1: and now, and I'll give you some context. So I
Speaker 1: have a concierge medical practice, and part of the concierge
Speaker 1: practices that my patients checking with me regularly, not only
Speaker 1: when they get sick, so they tend to be a
Speaker 1: little bit healthier throughout the year and all of those
Speaker 1: patients who have gotten this virus have have been fine
Speaker 1: and had none of them that had to go to
Speaker 1: the hospital. So having a strong immunitis have definitely makes
Speaker 1: a difference here. Uh. There are oral vitamins you can take,
Speaker 1: like vitamin C and zinc which are really helpful for
Speaker 1: your immune system. Small things like making sure to get
Speaker 1: enough sleep at night is really important. Avoiding alcohol and tobacco,
Speaker 1: especially tobacco products now that the disease seems to affect
Speaker 1: the lungs. Um. I'm not going to get into too
Speaker 1: about the medications that you can take, but you've all
Speaker 1: heard there's there's you know, a couple that are out there.
Speaker 1: There's some controversy around them. But in my practice, I
Speaker 1: am prescribing into my patients, so I think there's the
Speaker 1: benefit outweighs the risk. Well, which which are you which
Speaker 1: are you recommending? I mean not as a solution, but
Speaker 1: as a suggestion. Yeah, the hydroxy chloroquine UM, I'm prescribing
Speaker 1: at a very low dose for patients as a prevention
Speaker 1: a lot of side effects that people are getting. Someone
Speaker 1: are actually at the treatment doses which are quite quite
Speaker 1: a lot higher than than the preventive doses. Um at
Speaker 1: the challenge of that. A. It's hard to get and
Speaker 1: be you may be taking medication away from someone who
Speaker 1: needs it for the rumor torred arthritis or another issue.
Speaker 1: So I'd say that very carefully. Well, you know, you
Speaker 1: have to talk with the physician first about taking it.
Speaker 1: What's the thought process and the reasoning for hydro flee
Speaker 1: or whatever working hard. So essentially an immune modulator, so
Speaker 1: it modulates your immune system. The idea is that the
Speaker 1: same way it prevents malaria from affecting your cells, perhaps
Speaker 1: it could prevent coronavirus from effecting yourselves. Got it and
Speaker 1: did didn't They didn't? They sort of accidentally uh uh.
Speaker 1: In essence, there's sort of an accidental sort of discovery
Speaker 1: when they were looking at people who were I can't
Speaker 1: recall the exacts, but weren't people with lupus not getting
Speaker 1: infected or something like that because they were kind of
Speaker 1: on something like this or something some sort of story
Speaker 1: like this I read. I don't know if that's exactly,
Speaker 1: but isn't that kind of how they Yeah, the Chinese
Speaker 1: were really you know, early in the kind of the
Speaker 1: usage of experimental treatments. Obviously they had. I don't recall
Speaker 1: exactly how they came across that actually colorquin, but they
Speaker 1: were they had done early studies on it, and I
Speaker 1: believe in South Korea Japan it was used as well.
Speaker 1: So it was really really right experiments in Asia? Right?
Speaker 1: Not interesting? So what does our new normal look like
Speaker 1: like going forward? How is the world going to change? Like?
Speaker 1: What what are we gonna need to do now going
Speaker 1: forward after kind of dealing with this? Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: I don't have a crystal ball, but my sense is
Speaker 1: that what's going to happen is eventually this will die
Speaker 1: down around you know, July or August in the summertime,
Speaker 1: and then we'll probably have some like some some semblance
Speaker 1: of return to normalcy. Obviously we likely won't have group
Speaker 1: events like basketball games or music festivals or things like that.
Speaker 1: I think essential businesses will reopen, uh, And then I think, sadly,
Speaker 1: this may cycle back again in November, December, you know,
Speaker 1: in the wintertime, and we'll have to kind of go
Speaker 1: back to doing some level of quarantining to help prevent
Speaker 1: the spread. Ultimately, once we have a vaccine, we can
Speaker 1: then treat this similar to the flu. Life goes on
Speaker 1: every year we have a flut, we get a vaccine.
Speaker 1: That's that's unbelievable. I mean, those numbers are those projections
Speaker 1: are just just crazy. I mean, so, you do you
Speaker 1: feel like this, this will be sort of our normal
Speaker 1: at least to the month of July, UM, this sort
Speaker 1: of self quarantine UM lifestyle. Well, I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a gradual reintegration into normal behavior. So I
Speaker 1: don't think you'll have group events for a long time,
Speaker 1: if if at all, this summer. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll have, you know, interactions with our friends and loved ones.
Speaker 1: Maybe restaurants may reopen, but I think beyond that, I
Speaker 1: don't see anyone taking steps to to reopen society completely.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely crazy. Yow, I hope I'm wrong, man, dog,
Speaker 1: I hope you're so wrong. Man, that's crazy. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's like the opposite of being a human. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're we're we're supposed to socialize, We're supposed to be
Speaker 1: near near each other. You know, it's a pretty incredible
Speaker 1: social experiment we've done here, because for the most part,
Speaker 1: this disease really isn't that deadly for for most young people.
Speaker 1: But we as a society and made the choice that
Speaker 1: we're gonna support our elderally, are are the sick those
Speaker 1: with chronic conditions to ensure that they don't offer and
Speaker 1: we're all taking the brunt of it. In a way,
Speaker 1: it really speaks volumes to to our our perspective as society.
Speaker 1: So is there such a thing as herd immunity for
Speaker 1: something like this? Yeah? But the issue, the problem with
Speaker 1: herd immunity is that in order for that to happen,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have to get infected very quickly,
Speaker 1: and our our hospital the capacity to handle that many
Speaker 1: uh sick patients. If we had five to ten times
Speaker 1: the number of hospital beds and I see you beds,
Speaker 1: we could do something like that and then everyone would
Speaker 1: get yea. So so not not not to get to
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty, but you said hospital beds. But even
Speaker 1: if we did, would we have the hospital staff to
Speaker 1: cater to those beds? Right? So? Yeah, I would throw
Speaker 1: into that, you know, protective equipment, inventil later staff. I meaning,
Speaker 1: if we had the five times the amount of capacity,
Speaker 1: we we can handle this very different than that we're
Speaker 1: handling it now right right? Interesting, that's just crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: is there? Any more information out there about like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, if you get it, how long you are
Speaker 1: contagious with it? Can you get it again? That kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I don't think the CDC or anyone
Speaker 1: has given you know, significantly accurate guidelines for this. I
Speaker 1: can only speak anecdotally where I've had patients who have
Speaker 1: tested positive on nasal swab for up to a month
Speaker 1: after getting it, meaning they still have active viral RNA
Speaker 1: in their nasal passages. That being said, there's spouse or
Speaker 1: loved one who were with them after they quarantined for
Speaker 1: two weeks hasn't gotten it, So it lends. It leads
Speaker 1: me to believe that it may stay in your system
Speaker 1: for for up you know, weeks or more, but you
Speaker 1: may not be as infectious after a week or two. Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you think less importantly that this uh will
Speaker 1: open up the idea of carpool lanes two single drivers
Speaker 1: because no one is allowed to be to each other anymore.
Speaker 1: Listen it for a doctor that does house, cause this
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing in the world for me. There's
Speaker 1: no one on the freeways, so I hope the trauma
Speaker 1: well at some point I've never seen I'm so beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got better report that at Yosemite has now been
Speaker 1: coming overrun by animals and wildlife, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: a nice thing, you know, to see that happened. Wow, incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, like I'm so I'm like, I'm so speechless.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard for me to even I'm still processing
Speaker 1: even to your the information that you gave about about
Speaker 1: those those timelines are so um, they're not even palatable
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean, just because my
Speaker 1: life is so my whole world is so is social essentially,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. My business is social, my
Speaker 1: career is social. So it's so it's it's so outrageous
Speaker 1: to hear these uh, these these projections are just so unfathomable.
Speaker 1: The one thing that could could affect that is the
Speaker 1: is the availability of widespread testing. So right now we're
Speaker 1: more but with very little data as to who has
Speaker 1: the virus and who doesn't. But if you can imagine
Speaker 1: a world where tests were available at any time, anywhere
Speaker 1: you went, we could essentially have group outings as long
Speaker 1: as everyone tested negative prior to coming to the outing.
Speaker 1: So what called you at What I said is that
Speaker 1: if the government gets his act together and to get
Speaker 1: a coordinated effort to massively expand the use of testing,
Speaker 1: then theoretically we could have some of those larger social events.
Speaker 1: Is there is there? Is there? This is outrageous, but
Speaker 1: um could you ever foresee some version of a UM
Speaker 1: But it's sort of a quilted version of an approach
Speaker 1: of her immunity where you take counties and you say
Speaker 1: we're going to try to grow a herd and make
Speaker 1: a herd immunity happen in this region. Everybody, go about
Speaker 1: your business, go socialize, tuck away all the people who
Speaker 1: are immuno compromised before that, get them out of town,
Speaker 1: put them somewhere else for a temporary amount of time
Speaker 1: a month, two months, let that area essentially intentionally self contaminate,
Speaker 1: go through the process, develop a herd immunity, and then
Speaker 1: send the immuno compromise people back into the region. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we'll probably see something along those lines with
Speaker 1: immunity bracelets, perhaps where you know you can't just community
Speaker 1: bracelet and now you are you can go to green zones,
Speaker 1: but you can't go to red zones or yellow zones
Speaker 1: or something along those lines. I don't know. How that
Speaker 1: would look exactly, But that is for reopening society. Crazy.
Speaker 1: How do we get involved with the manufacturing of that
Speaker 1: bracelet company? Exactly? Well, no one's They can probably make
Speaker 1: these respense instead. That's incredible. Hey, Doc, is there anything
Speaker 1: that we didn't ask you that we should have? Uh? Now,
Speaker 1: you guys covered all the main The main things you know,
Speaker 1: are testing that's really important to to really overcome this
Speaker 1: quarantuning in the meantime and eventually a vaccine um. So
Speaker 1: you guys touch and I would I would, I would
Speaker 1: like to calm some of the hysteria for people that
Speaker 1: that what I've seen in my practice is this is
Speaker 1: not as deadly ash as maybe as first reported. So
Speaker 1: while it's really important to quarantine landing the curve, you know,
Speaker 1: I think people don't need to buy seventeen rolls of
Speaker 1: toilet paper when they go to the grocery store. I
Speaker 1: think we can calm some of that hysteria. I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree more with you there. Well, Dr thanks still much
Speaker 1: for being on the podcast. If people want to find
Speaker 1: out more about you and your practice, where should they go?
Speaker 1: My practice called Concierge I'm Los Angeles. Website is Concerge
Speaker 1: m d l a dot com and on Instagram Concierge
Speaker 1: M d l A got it, Kayler, Thanks for your time, man.
Speaker 1: My pleasure is pleasure talking to you guys here you
Speaker 1: too many, Bud all right, welcome back to what's the
Speaker 1: name of your podcast? How Man Think? Well? Um so good.
Speaker 1: I'm alongside Gavin the gra Um. It's up. Well, thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on today. Man, you are guest hosting. Is
Speaker 1: what you're doing? Well, here's my question to you, man,
Speaker 1: what guys that are on your show doing? Like what
Speaker 1: could they possibly be doing right now that makes it
Speaker 1: so they can't do this show? I think what happened
Speaker 1: was they heard that I was going to be part
Speaker 1: of it, so they all bailed and you were like,
Speaker 1: I don't see the problem, I'll do it, and they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, he doesn't know what he's in for.
Speaker 1: Al Right, Well, I'll tell you what. I am excited
Speaker 1: about the next guest we have, because well, I am
Speaker 1: a huge I grew up a huge T G I
Speaker 1: F fan and a huge fan of the show Full House,
Speaker 1: So have didn't we all? Dude? I mean, by the way,
Speaker 1: can you still sing the Full House theme song? Like?
Speaker 1: Do you know all the words. M I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think I can match you on
Speaker 1: that one. Can you actually a singer? Bro? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm a singer with a bad memory. I be it. It
Speaker 1: It went whatever happened to predictability, The Milkman, the Papa Boy,
Speaker 1: Evening TV. I miss my old familiar friends. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: you're welcome everybody. Bravo, bravo. I mean the fact that
Speaker 1: people pay money to see you sing and not me
Speaker 1: is well, that's one of the problems that we have
Speaker 1: in this world. The other problem right now is covid
Speaker 1: n um. Can we can we bring in Candice Cameron
Speaker 1: to having think because I gotta talk to him. Hey, hey, hello,
Speaker 1: h okay, I'm sorry, but you just missed me sing
Speaker 1: the theme song to Full House. Um, yeah, don't. I
Speaker 1: think at the end of it, I'll do it again
Speaker 1: for you. I can also do the theme song for
Speaker 1: Family Matters, which is weirdly similar, and if you sing one,
Speaker 1: it's hard to sing the other one. Um, but I digress. Uh, Candice,
Speaker 1: how are you good? For you? So it seems like
Speaker 1: you're good if you're singing in the Full House theme song?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know in times like this, you got
Speaker 1: to find the thing that brings you joy, that brings
Speaker 1: light to your soul. And dad Nabbit, if the full
Speaker 1: House theme song doesn't do that for you, I don't
Speaker 1: know what will. What are you doing in these weird
Speaker 1: end times to kind of keep your spirits up? Goodness,
Speaker 1: We've been spending a lot of time together as a family,
Speaker 1: you know. I last year I became an empty nester.
Speaker 1: I three kids and they all left the house and
Speaker 1: now they're all back now, so I have a full house. Um,
Speaker 1: it's actually been it's been really great. Like as a mom,
Speaker 1: I'm my kids, so I'm happy that their home. But
Speaker 1: we've been cooking a lot and taken walks and we
Speaker 1: have gorgeous weather right now, so I ad met. We've
Speaker 1: been laying at the pool and you know, playing board
Speaker 1: games and watching Netflix. That's like the basis of what
Speaker 1: we've been doing in between the work that we're actually
Speaker 1: trying to do during the day, which as a performer
Speaker 1: and entertainer, I'm still working my butt off every day,
Speaker 1: just doing it from home and and in my bedroom,
Speaker 1: which is kind of weird, but making it happen. So
Speaker 1: do you have you have college age children I do
Speaker 1: one is uh two and twenty and eighteen. I still
Speaker 1: have one in hypo. Have you have you taken any
Speaker 1: evenings where you've allowed them to do the cooking, to
Speaker 1: taste some of that patented college cuisine for the family.
Speaker 1: You know what, my husband is like a gourmet chef.
Speaker 1: He is like a master chef. No joke. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking just like, oh you you can grow up the
Speaker 1: barbecue like he's an incredible chef. So my kids had
Speaker 1: actually learned how to cook pretty well, and they've even
Speaker 1: living where they have and with other families. My one
Speaker 1: son played hockey in Minnesota, so he was living with
Speaker 1: a billet family and um, you know, they'll take over
Speaker 1: cooking and everyone's pretty impressed because they got their dad's
Speaker 1: not not from me. I care not nearly as good
Speaker 1: as my husband. Do you have room to adopt another child?
Speaker 1: He's talking about me. Actually, I didn't ask that a lot.
Speaker 1: I know, I wish that we weren't in quarantine because
Speaker 1: I'd tell everyone, come over, come over, come over, Like
Speaker 1: we love cookie and we love entertaining and having people over.
Speaker 1: That's like our specialty. Um, we heard that you are
Speaker 1: doing a really cool thing, a benefit con cert, Hope
Speaker 1: Rising Rising COVID nineteen. Tell us about that. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: my brother and I have put together a benefit concert.
Speaker 1: You know, we were watching some of the online concerts
Speaker 1: that have happened over the last few weeks, and while
Speaker 1: they have been really great, uh, we we felt that
Speaker 1: there was something missing from all of them, and that
Speaker 1: was a source of real hope, and we believe that
Speaker 1: comes from God. So we wanted to put together a
Speaker 1: concert that had really uplifting lyrics and songs and worship
Speaker 1: music and some inspirational messages from from pastors and authors
Speaker 1: and teachers that would just really encourage and give grounded
Speaker 1: hope to people. So we put together Hope Rising. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a live benefit concert coming this Sunday. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be on Safe for the Lives. You can go
Speaker 1: to Hope Rising dot live and that will take you
Speaker 1: to the link to watch it for We have like
Speaker 1: pre of the crops contemporary Christian artists. We have Mercy
Speaker 1: Me and cartinan Country and Casting Crowns and Natalie Grant
Speaker 1: and Kirk Franklin like he was just gonna bring it
Speaker 1: and then along with other inspirational messages and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a really fun, wonderful night and all the proceeds
Speaker 1: are benefiting from Yeah, we're really excited about it. And
Speaker 1: this one just feels different from everything else that's out there,
Speaker 1: and I hope that people find a lot of encouragement
Speaker 1: and strength and comfort watching the show. Well, let me
Speaker 1: know if you want me to do a little guests
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna pull out a little song for you.
Speaker 1: Might be the Sooiler House theme song. I love it.
Speaker 1: I can do that. Um uh. I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you, like, if full House was a real place,
Speaker 1: how do you think the Tanner family would be dealing
Speaker 1: with this? I love? This question? Is ever question I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. Well, wait, are you telling me that? Am
Speaker 1: I living in fantasy Leanna or something? I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I'm not actually d J Tiana all the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense. It's a reality show. I
Speaker 1: like it much better that one. See. Um So, So
Speaker 1: to answer your question, which is a funny one actually,
Speaker 1: other than my own home, if I were to be
Speaker 1: quarantined anywhere else, I'd want to be quarantined in the
Speaker 1: full House House with all the full House and Fuller
Speaker 1: House people. Because it's a wild and crazy group. And uh,
Speaker 1: we know that everything would be completely organized and sanitary
Speaker 1: and just infested with Between Danny and Er and DJ Tanner, yeah,
Speaker 1: we would be good to go. Like what character would
Speaker 1: thrive in this situation and what character would lose it
Speaker 1: the quickest? Um? DJ Tanner would thrive because she is
Speaker 1: a perfectionist and she loves planning everyone's life, so she
Speaker 1: would be like in heaven planning what everyone's gonna do
Speaker 1: every single day, every minute of every hour. And um,
Speaker 1: I think the probably like I think the kids. The
Speaker 1: kids are just gonna lose it. That's it, all the kids,
Speaker 1: because who wants to be with an over you know,
Speaker 1: an over perfectionist parents. I couldn't agree more. Hey do
Speaker 1: you Wand if I ask you another question about about
Speaker 1: college in your other real life? Yes, um, when they
Speaker 1: send the kids home from school because of the pandemic, right, Um,
Speaker 1: as a parent, what is your perspective on that of
Speaker 1: you know, paying for tuition and things like that. Are
Speaker 1: you expected to still continue to pay the full the
Speaker 1: full price? There is there some sort of refund or
Speaker 1: is there some sort of of of you know, a
Speaker 1: payment sort of adjustment due to the fact that this
Speaker 1: thing has happened during the school year. It's a it's
Speaker 1: a great question. It's interesting. My kids actually are going
Speaker 1: to school online. They're getting their degrees online on online college.
Speaker 1: So for that there there's there's no refund needed because
Speaker 1: they're doing it on their computer anyway. Although you know
Speaker 1: with Sun with Hockey, who is in high school ability
Speaker 1: with a family. He's home now, but they are refunding
Speaker 1: money for the end of the school year that they
Speaker 1: haven't been able to fulfill. And I think that's reasonable
Speaker 1: and responsible, and especially if you know you are being
Speaker 1: housed on college campuses and you're not any more. I
Speaker 1: absolutely think that refunds should be given right now. It's
Speaker 1: interesting you mentioned the online thing because I saw a
Speaker 1: projection that ten of universities in the United States are
Speaker 1: going to shut down permanently, not just because of how
Speaker 1: they're affected immediately due to the impact of the virus,
Speaker 1: but but because so many students are going to see
Speaker 1: that they can get the same the same criteria online
Speaker 1: rather than paying a fee to go to an actual campus.
Speaker 1: And there's so many ways that they can essentially get
Speaker 1: their you know, their their validation. I found that fascinating.
Speaker 1: It is fascinating while to shut down permanently. Um, it
Speaker 1: is interesting. And that was a big discussion and reason
Speaker 1: why my son wanted to get his degree online. He's
Speaker 1: a smarting pants, you know, he's like self motivated, diligent student.
Speaker 1: And he was like, he didn't even want the college
Speaker 1: experience in the sense of all the extracurricular activities. He
Speaker 1: was like, I want to work. I want to have
Speaker 1: a full time job, so I'm going to do my
Speaker 1: school online. And I He's like, I think more productive
Speaker 1: without actually living on campus. But you know, it does
Speaker 1: take a specific personality to do that because you have
Speaker 1: to be self motivated, like one of my other kids.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that would happen right right different persons.
Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to ask a little bit
Speaker 1: more about the the benefit Hope rising. Um. You mentioned
Speaker 1: that a portion of the of the proceeds for the
Speaker 1: event are going to Samaritan's Purse or Samaritans. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know what what is that? So Samaritans Samaritans Purse
Speaker 1: has been an organization that's been around for a very
Speaker 1: long time, but they literally are boots on the ground
Speaker 1: right now. In New York City. They've got the big
Speaker 1: white tents in the middle of Central Park. Uh, they
Speaker 1: have much hospitals and they I mean, they just do
Speaker 1: work all over the world. And you know they're they
Speaker 1: also have other mobile hospitals and hotspots where it's needed.
Speaker 1: So they're actively helping the people that are dealing with
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. And but they do it all in Jesus name.
Speaker 1: And as we produced Hope Rising, these this is the
Speaker 1: faith community coming together. This isn't about a particular denomination.
Speaker 1: It's not about politics. It's just about people of faith
Speaker 1: in general coming together. And so it was important for
Speaker 1: us to pick a charity that was also giving God glory.
Speaker 1: So how do you how do you do they pay
Speaker 1: to go to Hope Rising? Um, they donate on demo?
Speaker 1: How does it work? Yeah? You you please know that
Speaker 1: you can watch Hope Rising for free. All of us
Speaker 1: did it for free. We've produced it for free. Every
Speaker 1: artist is singing from their home. They are giving us
Speaker 1: everything for free. So no one is profiting one penny
Speaker 1: from this event. We all did it out of the
Speaker 1: goodness of our knowing that the world needs hope, and
Speaker 1: so we are When you watch it. Thank you when
Speaker 1: you do watch it, if you feel led to give
Speaker 1: Samaritan's purse, will have the information on the website on
Speaker 1: Hope Rising dot Live throughout the show or you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching it or online just through the website.
Speaker 1: And uh, it's totally up just doing what we can
Speaker 1: and isn't Franklin Graham also affiliated with that particular organization.
Speaker 1: He is Franklin Graham, dost know. I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: a wonderful person, best known as Billy Grandson. So you
Speaker 1: guys can he's affiliated with Samaritans person. You know, they
Speaker 1: just do such a great job. Yeah, this is such
Speaker 1: a cool thing Hope Rising dot Live. It's coming up
Speaker 1: on Sunday, April nineteen pm Easter and five pm over
Speaker 1: here on the West Coast. You and your brother Kirk
Speaker 1: are putting this thing on such a great idea because
Speaker 1: we're all like, we're all looking to like help, but
Speaker 1: we don't know how to do it. And I think
Speaker 1: it's awesome that you were able to do, you know,
Speaker 1: use your voice and uh and put this together. So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for that. Thank you, I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And fined to just say one one last thing,
Speaker 1: because it's truly a grassroots effort on our part to
Speaker 1: get the word out. We actually had had a network
Speaker 1: secured to air this on Easter and they pulled out
Speaker 1: three days before because of the faith content, which kind
Speaker 1: of is mind blowing to me. So we were very
Speaker 1: happy to Facebook Live jumped on board. But we're just
Speaker 1: asking everyone to please spread the word, share it that
Speaker 1: this is going to be on because even if you're
Speaker 1: not a person of faith, if you just have an
Speaker 1: inkling of it, but you are questioning what's going on
Speaker 1: in the world, I promise you you are going to
Speaker 1: be given hope by watching you this this live event
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's great. Well, thank thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We love what you're doing and we think it's a
Speaker 1: great idea and it's a it's a wonderful cost. So
Speaker 1: thank you for that. Thank you so much, guys, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you. Now for house same song. Okay,
Speaker 1: are you going We're gonna do the empty house? Okay,
Speaker 1: the house? What the millman? The boy? Even now, here's
Speaker 1: the thing that song and then you have it's a
Speaker 1: rare condition in this day and age, reading the good
Speaker 1: news on the newspaper page. By the way, Big t
Speaker 1: G I f fan over here. Just gonna say it,
Speaker 1: bucket list thing to get to talk to you, So
Speaker 1: thank you so much for making that possibility. Guys, this
Speaker 1: is going to go down. Is like the best of
Speaker 1: you of the week for sure. We love it. We
Speaker 1: love it. Thanks, guys, have a good one all right,
Speaker 1: back on how men think. Very excited for our next
Speaker 1: guest because well, I've got a lot of questions for her.
Speaker 1: Uh into the show. We have Dr Viv, Dr Viv,
Speaker 1: how are you hi? Thanks so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. Um, I'm excited to talk to you because
Speaker 1: I am currently quarantining with my fiance and I have questions. Well,
Speaker 1: congrats on being engaged. Well we'll see if we make
Speaker 1: it through this thing. I'll be honest with you. So yeah,
Speaker 1: as I said, we saw that you reached out to
Speaker 1: us on Instagram and said that you're working double time
Speaker 1: helping couples deal with new problems. So what is the
Speaker 1: most common new problem that you're seeing right now? Trying
Speaker 1: to figure out a balance between what is too much
Speaker 1: time together and what isn't enough time together. It's it's
Speaker 1: like everybody has this gauge right now of okay, what
Speaker 1: do we do with this time? It's a gift, but
Speaker 1: it's also pressure. And then if they just want to
Speaker 1: lounge around, are they judging each other? Are they think,
Speaker 1: you know, we should be having sex all the time,
Speaker 1: We should be communicating, we should be connecting. And that's
Speaker 1: the part that I think people need to give you
Speaker 1: to there, some grace, to give you to this, some leeway.
Speaker 1: There's no right way to quarantine. Is there a right
Speaker 1: way to have sex in a hazmat suit? Well, the
Speaker 1: rug round rubber probably isn't going to go very well
Speaker 1: hold there, But yeah, no, I think that it's really
Speaker 1: partant for everyone to make sure that they are checking
Speaker 1: in with themselves more. Now, Um, we can learn a
Speaker 1: whole lot about ourselves and what makes us tick. And
Speaker 1: that's all information that's really valuable to our Beyonce's partners,
Speaker 1: potential partners in the future. I mean, obviously there's there's
Speaker 1: this is causing a lot of strain and stress on relationships. Um,
Speaker 1: what good is coming out of this though? Like, what
Speaker 1: are the positives that people maybe aren't even realizing but
Speaker 1: are you know, right under their noses. I think the
Speaker 1: good that's coming out of this in relationships is that
Speaker 1: people are realizing that they can just to be together.
Speaker 1: They don't have to constantly have romance um every time
Speaker 1: they're together, they don't constantly have to do anything. To
Speaker 1: know that you can rely on your partner, but have
Speaker 1: it be from afar is really important. But then to
Speaker 1: also be able to say, hey, having us be just
Speaker 1: comfortable next to each other, that's huge. To be able
Speaker 1: to just chill with someone and like it and not
Speaker 1: be judgy and not be an each of the spaces
Speaker 1: about it. I think that that's huge. So it's okay
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, I don't want to watch RuPaul's
Speaker 1: drag Race with you again, so I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: a different room and watch reruns of The Masters. Yes,
Speaker 1: if you have the luxury to be able to say,
Speaker 1: I want to go watch Married at First Sight, like tonight,
Speaker 1: it's decision day, Gotta watch it. Um. If you have
Speaker 1: the luxury to be able to go and have your
Speaker 1: own space somewhere, take it and then do what a
Speaker 1: lot of people are starting to do in switch up
Speaker 1: locations every day. You don't claim the dining room as
Speaker 1: your own, and then that's it. Um, you want to
Speaker 1: make sure to switch things up a bit, that's just
Speaker 1: to keep your sanity. I mean, the truth is, we're
Speaker 1: all just trying to stay samee through this. We're all
Speaker 1: trying to do our best to flatten the curve and
Speaker 1: to not have this go on forever. And we we've
Speaker 1: never been through this before. So if you're doing it
Speaker 1: in a way that is as stress free as possible,
Speaker 1: you're doing it right. You should encourage that. What's an
Speaker 1: appropriate amount of sex you should be having. I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of twice a week having some sort of
Speaker 1: sexual encounter. When people say sex, they tend to mean intercourse,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of other fun things
Speaker 1: you can be doing, and variety is the spice of life.
Speaker 1: And all couples to try to do something sexual or
Speaker 1: sexy together at least twice a week. So also at
Speaker 1: least twice a week. Yeah, I mean, if you if
Speaker 1: you have the drive to do more, and that's something
Speaker 1: that both of you are on the same cage about,
Speaker 1: especially right now. I put out like a execty self
Speaker 1: isolation challenge, and I challenged my couples to the seven
Speaker 1: different out of the fifteen that I've posted to do
Speaker 1: seven different of these challenges. If you want to knock
Speaker 1: those out in a week, that's fine. Well, we don't
Speaker 1: know how long we're going to be doing it. To
Speaker 1: take your time, make sure you're not like overdoing it.
Speaker 1: And again, you don't want to create pressure. This is
Speaker 1: something where I just try to chill out as much
Speaker 1: as you can. Dress is not sexy, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are worth being stressed about right now.
Speaker 1: Whether or not you're connecting on a daily basis in
Speaker 1: a quality way, in a sexy way all day long
Speaker 1: is not one of them. We don't need to put
Speaker 1: that on ourselves right now. Have you ever told a
Speaker 1: couple that they need to experiment more and then they
Speaker 1: come back to you and tell you what they did
Speaker 1: and you think gross? Gross? Have I had a gross moment? Well,
Speaker 1: let me think. I probably have thought at some point like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, I would have never thought that that would
Speaker 1: turn someone on. But I don't know that I've had
Speaker 1: a gross um I felt like you've got something on
Speaker 1: the line. Have you, ever, as a relationship doctor, thought
Speaker 1: sometimes no relationship is the best relationship at all. Oh,
Speaker 1: for sure, if you can't be healthy. If you can't
Speaker 1: be respectful, if you can't be confident enough to be
Speaker 1: able to just be you, then it's probably not the
Speaker 1: relationship for you. But I do believe that there's probably
Speaker 1: a different relationship out there that will enhance who you are,
Speaker 1: that will highlight all of the wonderful things that you bring. Now,
Speaker 1: if you continue to be in relationships that do not
Speaker 1: feel good to you, you're probably the common factor, right,
Speaker 1: So it's important to make sure that you're looking within yourself,
Speaker 1: and now is the perfect time to do that, especially
Speaker 1: if you're alone in isolation. This is your chance to
Speaker 1: really figure out do you like? I always ask people
Speaker 1: would you want you? And if the answer is no,
Speaker 1: like that's a tough thing to come to. But if
Speaker 1: the answer is no, this is the perfect time to
Speaker 1: work on that. And there's lots of big ways online,
Speaker 1: especially if you're following me um to figure out how
Speaker 1: to get to a place where you are attractive, where
Speaker 1: you are attached, not just in your online The problem
Speaker 1: is is that quarantine, the quarantine version of me is disgusting.
Speaker 1: I have it showered in a couple of days. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, and we're all kind of struggling with that
Speaker 1: right now, we're like that quarantine fiftine is there and
Speaker 1: maybe our hygiene isn't like on point. Um, but you
Speaker 1: have to know that there's an end to that, right
Speaker 1: Like you have to know that you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: start cutting those toails soon or else your fiance is
Speaker 1: going to be like, you need to sleep in another bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're aware of it, and you're aware
Speaker 1: that you're being gross right now, we've got to make
Speaker 1: sure that you're on top of that because when we're
Speaker 1: out in the same worlds apply. Yeah, so sorry, go
Speaker 1: for it. I'll just say, what what if it's been
Speaker 1: so long since you cared that you don't even remember
Speaker 1: where your toothbrush is? Okay, you're gonna have to quarantine
Speaker 1: a little longer than everybody else. Um, somebody needs to
Speaker 1: check on him right now, go check onto. You have
Speaker 1: another question, doc, Doc. Are you in a relationship right now?
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I've been married to my husband's almost
Speaker 1: thirteen years now. I'm hoping we don't have to celebrate
Speaker 1: in quarantine, but yeah, I've my So, when you guys
Speaker 1: argue about something in the relationship, do you assume you're right,
Speaker 1: because you're the professional. I always assume that I'm right,
Speaker 1: but do I express that. No, No, I The truth
Speaker 1: is he has some insights just I mean, we're an
Speaker 1: opposite text couple, so he has some insights into um,
Speaker 1: just the way that men look at things a little
Speaker 1: bit different. Of course, I'm learning from podcasts as well,
Speaker 1: but I think it's always a important to know that
Speaker 1: his his viewpoint is valid. It's just up to me
Speaker 1: to figure out with my skills, how to make sure
Speaker 1: that I'm listening to him and and that we're getting
Speaker 1: to the the part, you know, the goal, which is
Speaker 1: to understand each other better and then change our behavior
Speaker 1: to help each other feel like our needs to being met. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because most people ask him what it's
Speaker 1: like to be married to a relationship therapist, and he
Speaker 1: said that the main thing is that we tend to
Speaker 1: see things from a mile away, like we don't let
Speaker 1: things just sweep under the rug and lets because we
Speaker 1: know I see it every day, and you know, him,
Speaker 1: having been with me for so long, he knows that
Speaker 1: things can go really bad, very rickly. So we want
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're always this kind of like
Speaker 1: on top of things and talk about things immediately versus
Speaker 1: waiting a week, month, years. I wanted to ask a
Speaker 1: question because obviously you're getting a lot of work for
Speaker 1: people who are in relationships quarantining together, um, But there's
Speaker 1: a whole another group of people who are single during
Speaker 1: this quarantine situation. How are they dealing with trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, go on I guess you go on like
Speaker 1: face FaceTime dates or something like. I don't even know
Speaker 1: process looks like. But do you have any advice for
Speaker 1: those people out there? Yeah? I mean they are. They
Speaker 1: are doing these virtual dates, um, which it's not all
Speaker 1: that different than a real in person date because you're
Speaker 1: still hopefully talking about the same things that you would.
Speaker 1: You would present yourself. You'll probably have to rush your teeth, um,
Speaker 1: just because there might be stuff in them, but like
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you are presenting your
Speaker 1: best self now. It's funny when I was getting ready
Speaker 1: for this and I just like habitually put perfume on,
Speaker 1: so just say, oh no, I smelled really good. But
Speaker 1: it's like the same, you gotta put this, You've gotta
Speaker 1: put your best self out there. They're all circumstances. I
Speaker 1: think it's important to be mindful of what you look
Speaker 1: like and how you are perceived by others. That said,
Speaker 1: you don't want it to be fake. So please don't
Speaker 1: be using filters when you're doing these virtual dating Please
Speaker 1: don't use virtual backgrounds to show that you're in like
Speaker 1: an amazing lot when you're not that. I mean, don't
Speaker 1: pit people out, don't turn this around into a fake thing.
Speaker 1: But to get the ball rolling, to get some you know,
Speaker 1: some dates out there while you're going through this. Sup Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long this is going to be,
Speaker 1: and some people really want to be in love get
Speaker 1: out there now. So question, um, do you do you
Speaker 1: have single clients? Do you want to start dating somebody?
Speaker 1: The vast majority of my clients are in relationships, but
Speaker 1: the ones who aren't have either come out of a
Speaker 1: breakup and want to learn about what could have happened differently,
Speaker 1: or they want to make sure that if that they
Speaker 1: don't go into like the next dating scene too soon.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not ready for that. Or it's people who
Speaker 1: have been out of the game for a long time
Speaker 1: and just want to make sure that they're ready to
Speaker 1: get out there and know how to date, how to
Speaker 1: what love is, what their goals are for relationships, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't think about that. All they
Speaker 1: think about is I want to be coupled up. I
Speaker 1: want to be carried up with someone, but they don't
Speaker 1: really know why. It's more like, what's because everybody does that? Well, Now,
Speaker 1: if you don't know why you're doing something, it's probably
Speaker 1: not going to be within your control to guide it
Speaker 1: and to fix it if it goes astray. Right, What
Speaker 1: is the difference between role playing the fine line between
Speaker 1: role playing and realizing someone just wants to be with
Speaker 1: someone else. Yeah, I think it's how consistent it is.
Speaker 1: If you, um, if you're feeling like you're putting on
Speaker 1: a persona or you think that this person isn't going
Speaker 1: to like what you really think, then you're just setting
Speaker 1: yourself up for the end of the relationship is going
Speaker 1: to happen if you feel like you're constantly working at something.
Speaker 1: I know. We all say relationships are hard work, their work,
Speaker 1: and you have to do it forever. There's a difference
Speaker 1: between working through communication, working through a problem, versus working
Speaker 1: through personality differences, and that's something that a lot of
Speaker 1: people do end up coming into therapy to figure out
Speaker 1: like is this incompatibility something that we can work through
Speaker 1: or is this something that is going to continue to
Speaker 1: be around the corner all the time? Right right? I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about Married at First Sight because
Speaker 1: obviously everyone is binging everything right now and you are
Speaker 1: the certified sex therapist and expert on that show. Tell
Speaker 1: us about that show. So Married at First Site it's
Speaker 1: it's again this very radical social experiment. We pick five
Speaker 1: and the five couples out of hundreds of thousands of applicans,
Speaker 1: hundreds of people, thousands of applications, and what we do
Speaker 1: is based off of what we see on paper and
Speaker 1: who we meet in person. Um. We also be background checks,
Speaker 1: We do uh psychological evaluations, multiple rounds of that, and
Speaker 1: based off of the information that we gather, we put
Speaker 1: together these five couples and they meet and marry at
Speaker 1: the altar, and then we follow them for eight weeks.
Speaker 1: We help them, um, I mean, we don't hold their
Speaker 1: hands through it, because we want them to really be themselves,
Speaker 1: like what we're talking about. We want them to be
Speaker 1: themselves that at the end of the eight weeks they
Speaker 1: can decide whether they want to remain married. Or get
Speaker 1: a divorce, and it's um, I mean, it's it's always
Speaker 1: mind blowing what you can learn from watching two strangers
Speaker 1: try to be married, like literally within it um. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what people are really attracted to when
Speaker 1: it comes to the show, is the idea that these
Speaker 1: people are jumping into this marriage club without ever having
Speaker 1: been there, without um, maybe sometimes even having good role
Speaker 1: models about what marriage is. So some people need more
Speaker 1: help than others when it comes to being married, and
Speaker 1: we just don't. We don't really know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen until it'squality done. Where can people watch it? It's
Speaker 1: on Lifetime. Tonight is our Decision Day, which is not
Speaker 1: our finale. Next week is our finale, but it's on
Speaker 1: Lifetime Network and it shows at eight pm Eastern times,
Speaker 1: so I hope everyone's going to tune in. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited we are filming. We filmed this one in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. It's an interesting group, all right. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they told you, but I came from the
Speaker 1: Bachelorette and the Bachelor in Paradise World. So psych evaluation
Speaker 1: six times, and uh, it's weird. It's a very weird.
Speaker 1: Test questions that's wonderful. Your fiance should be thrilled. I know,
Speaker 1: it's very It's very funny. Every show I've done, I've
Speaker 1: you know, they you go and talk to the therapist
Speaker 1: after the show. UM, and I always say, hey, am
Speaker 1: I more or less crazy than the last time I
Speaker 1: took the test? That's interesting that most people haven't taken
Speaker 1: six of you. So there's got to be some kind
Speaker 1: of study we can do with you. Yeah, getting worse.
Speaker 1: I think I'm the Bachelor impaired show, which is different. Well,
Speaker 1: I can help. I'll try to do what I can,
Speaker 1: especially right now. I mean, come on, let's get you
Speaker 1: set up for when we's all let loose. Speaking of
Speaker 1: people find out more about you and and like reach
Speaker 1: out to and stuff. Yeah. Well, my website is Dr
Speaker 1: Viviana d O C T O R v I V
Speaker 1: I A and a dot com. I'm Oliver social media
Speaker 1: with Dr Brivianna. I just want to help people and
Speaker 1: who want to find love or in love want to
Speaker 1: keep their love. That's my thing and um intimating the
Speaker 1: huge part of that. So lots of fun ways to
Speaker 1: do that online. That's great. Well, Dr viv thanks so
Speaker 1: much for taking the time. And uh and talking to
Speaker 1: us during this these uh, these weird these weird times.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. And everyone don't forget to watch
Speaker 1: Married at First Sight on Lifetime. Thank you, y'all, Stay
Speaker 1: safe and stay sane. Thanks, Thanks Doc, Thanks Gavin, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for letting me be on your show today.
Speaker 1: This has been a lot of fun. You're not just
Speaker 1: on the show, bro, you're running this show. Well, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, Um, one of the most popular episodes of
Speaker 1: my podcast, The Wells Cast, is the one where you
Speaker 1: are the guest of honor. And so if anyone wants
Speaker 1: to I'm serious, people love that interview, UM. And I
Speaker 1: constantly am getting like d ms about how awesome UM
Speaker 1: that episode was. And so I think maybe I'm at
Speaker 1: to have you on again. Maybe we'll like, let I
Speaker 1: don't know, the world settled back. I'd love you, man,
Speaker 1: I'd love I'd love to Well. You run a great interview, man.
Speaker 1: You know you're just you're very Sincerian event and you
Speaker 1: know you uh, you just tap in and you're you're
Speaker 1: good at it. You're just natural, very very very natural
Speaker 1: at it. Well. I've been up fan of yours for
Speaker 1: a long time and I mean this sounds saying you're
Speaker 1: put your posting videos on Instagram and stuff of you
Speaker 1: performing and stuff. And it's so nice to be able
Speaker 1: to kind of like during this these weird times check
Speaker 1: out and you know, just kind of enjoy a ways
Speaker 1: some of your music on Instagram. Thank you. I appreciate that. Man.
Speaker 1: I need that because all these vine dances are what
Speaker 1: have TikTok dancer. I'm losing my mind. I need some
Speaker 1: actual talents. So thank you for that. Well, I'm upset
Speaker 1: you say that because I was about to release my
Speaker 1: um my dance video and now I think maybe I'll
Speaker 1: pull it because I was gonna. I wanted you to
Speaker 1: see my new moves I've been working on. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really hot. It's really hot quarantine pole dance. Yeah, I'm right,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. You should do it. Just do the TikTok
Speaker 1: dance and I'll be supportive of it. I thank you
Speaker 1: means a lot, means a lot um all right, buddy,
Speaker 1: Well thanks for letting me be up today and be
Speaker 1: safe out there. Yeah? Are you kidding me? Man? You
Speaker 1: ran it, dude, you took it to you took it
Speaker 1: to a new level. Man, and let's let's connect. Man,
Speaker 1: let's do another show anytime, any time, dude. I'd love
Speaker 1: to come back on and I'd love to be back
Speaker 1: on here. So you just let me know. Man, done done,
Speaker 1: see wells see in quarantine mh