WEBVTT - Gavin an Important Conversation 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:05.520 This is How Men Think with and Gavin and I 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:13.000 heard radio podcast What's Up? Everybody? Back with another episode 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:18.160 of How Men Think? It's Gavin DeGraw. Unfortunately, my beautiful 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.880 co host, Brooks like is unavailable today to do the show. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:26.479 But fortunately we have another beautiful, beautiful step in for 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.400 the day. My good friend Mr Wills Adams is here 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.840 and we're gonna go through and talk to some professionals 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:35.720 about what's going on in the world. Wellsi there, man, man, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.600 thanks for having me. What in the hell could Brooks 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.360 be doing? Right? No one has anything to do right now. 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.280 I have no idea, but apparently during the gigantic worldwide 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.839 pause of action, Brooks has a very busy schedule and 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.640 can no longer be here with us today. Well good 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.080 for him, and I'm glad someone's making some money out there. 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.960 I guess he must be working on the cure. Yeah, 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.840 well good, hurry up because I'm getting a little uh 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.040 stir crazy. But thank you so much for be on 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:07.720 the show. How are you now? I haven't seen you 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.760 sense man and Pebble Beach for the uh, the A, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.319 T and T pro and how you been man? Been great? Man, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.319 been great? And then not so great because this whole 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.319 thing hit and first I was awesome, and then I realized, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.399 I'm not gonna see anybody for quite some time, except 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.560 unless I have to go to the grocery store. Mm hmm. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:34.000 It is Nashville, bananas. Is Nashville completely shut down? Like 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.800 Los Angeles is a ghost town right now? Oh? Man, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.080 I forget about it. It's crazy. I mean, usually if 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.160 you were on Broadway in Nashville, which is really the 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.960 the epicenter of activity and nightlife, it's sort of like, 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:52.000 uh an amusement park of drunkenness and partying. Uh. Usually 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.280 you'd see just an absolute sea of people having the 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.480 time of their lives. Uh. And now if you go 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.280 down there to that same street, it's basically just a 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.240 jogging path for the occasional person who wants to be 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:10.560 out taking a a little loper. Yeah. Well, we're definitely 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.520 raising We're living in some weird times, man, And I 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.120 think this show is going to be helpful for a 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.600 lot of people out there feeling the same thing that 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.080 we're feeling. And so we've lined up a bunch of 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:27.359 really good guests to kind of like get us through 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.919 this situation coming up in a little bit we're gonna 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:34.880 talk to Dr abe Um. I mean this guy is 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:42.720 uh super like into knowing everything that's happening with the pandemic, 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.720 how people are dealing with it, what people should be who, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.520 what people should be getting tested out there. We're gonna 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.840 ask him all those questions, um that you probably have yourself, 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:55.680 and then very excited, a little bit later, we're gonna 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.520 have Candice Cameron. You know her from DJ from Full House, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:05.200 full Er. He's amazing. Her brother and her, Kirk Cameron 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.320 and Cannis Cameron are putting on this thing called Hope Rising, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:13.040 which is basically just raising money um for the people 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.440 that are really on the front lines helping out and 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.959 trying to get this pandemic behind us. We're gonna find 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.720 out all about that, and then a little bit later 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.040 we're gonna have Dr Vivan. She is the doctor of 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.079 Marriage and Family therapy, uh and the certified sex therapist 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.359 and the expert on the show Married at First Sight. 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.800 So for all of you, uh you know, crazy cool 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.960 cats and kittens out there who are wanting to kill 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.160 your spouse, Dr Viv is going to explain why you 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.040 shouldn't do that. I'm very excited to be guest hosting 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.240 this episode of How Men Think. Um Man, We're lucky 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.400 to have you, man, lucky to have you. Let's take 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.480 a quick break and when we come back, let's talk 0:03:55.480 --> 0:04:06.560 to dr Ab. Yeah, perfectly, let's get to it and 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.800 we are back on the How Many Think Podcast. Wells 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.120 Adams uh philling in for Brooks. Gavin is on the 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.760 phone all the way over in Nashville, and we are 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:20.560 bringing into bringing into the show right now, dr Abe 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.799 malc And he's a founder and medical director of Concierge 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.440 m d l A. It's a home based concierge medical 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.360 practice in Los Angeles that focuses on well care as 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:36.159 opposed to sick care. We've got a lot of questions, 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:42.720 Doc about this pandemic. Why does vaccine? That's a good question. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.039 There's multiple steps that go into creating a vaccine. So 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:52.120 it starts with identifying the virus, sequencing the viral genotype, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.000 replicating that into a lab. These are steps that we've 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.440 actually gotten fairly good progress on so far. The next 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.760 step off to that is to figure out what delivery 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.039 mechanism to get it into animal studies, which is the 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.080 first step, and then you need to do uh, small 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.120 scale human trials where you test this efficacy and the 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.839 safety of the virus, of the of the vaccine, and 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.200 then ultimately can be widely distributed. But we all know 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.640 that with vaccines there's a ton of controversy and we 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.839 has to be done safely because the last thing you 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.000 want us to create a vaccine where actually infects people 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:30.279 and doesn't give them immunity. This is I don't know, unprecedented. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.320 I guess it's like nineteen eighteen or whatever. But um, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.279 are we or is the medical community kind of like 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.200 skipping steps in the creation of this vaccine because they 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.520 want to get this thing fixed sooner rather than later. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.240 So essentially all laboratories are diverting their efforts from other 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.800 vaccines to the coronavirus vaccine. So there's vaccines that are 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.320 being worked on for malaria and other drugs that all 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.680 those resources are now being imported into coronavirus. So in 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.320 that sense, yes, So I have a question regarding that 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.440 how how much information sharing is there between in each 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.799 of those labs or as each one of these labs 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.640 kind of working independently trying to come up with their 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.640 own uh solution. Yeah, I don't know. The exact answer 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.839 to that question. But you know, you do see reports 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.000 of like Bill Gates Foundation, for example, working with government 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.560 agencies because he's got a very robust infrastructure for developing vaccines. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:26.159 So I'm sure there's some inter disciplinary into government agencies cooperation. Um. 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.480 But that being said, I would imagine countries are trying 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.840 to win the race of developing a vaccine because it's 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.159 very you know, uh impactful for their own country and 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:43.720 their reputation in the world. Right h. I don't know if, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.479 if if this has been like confirmed, but you know, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.840 the news that I watch, you know, talks about these 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.160 wet markets in China, and like there's a good chance 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:58.000 that's where this thing derived from, whether that's a reality 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:03.839 or not, Like how just dangerous are those places? And 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.440 like why is it if they are dangerous, why is 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.320 it acceptable for them to continue to be operating. That's 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.080 a really good question, and I don't think the copy 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.240 utit this answer. I don't we don't know exactly when 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.040 the virus came from, you know. There I'm not a 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.360 conspiracy theorist by any means, but there is actually bio 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.920 laboratory in Wuhan Infectious which is doing infectious disease studies. 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.800 So it's a coincidence that that city happened to be 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:35.880 the city where this all started. So I don't even 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.880 know if it started in the wet market, but the 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.080 theory with behind wet markets is that, yeah, you're bringing 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:45.160 in animals who have diseases and there's unsanitary conditions. Most 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:50.080 diseases don't transfer from animals to humans, but clearly COVID can, 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.000 and you know stars before it. Uh. So the answer 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.840 your question is if we had the control to shut 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.840 down wet markets, I'm sure we would, but they're in 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.600 a sovereign country that we can't control, so there's not 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.480 much we can do about that. So so what can 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:09.680 we as the average UH citizen due to bolster our 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.480 immune system? Is there other than eating healthy? I mean? 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.800 Is there? I mean, is is there anything we can 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.760 really do other than just isolating ourselves? Yeah? I mean, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.800 and now, and I'll give you some context. So I 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.320 have a concierge medical practice, and part of the concierge 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.160 practices that my patients checking with me regularly, not only 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:28.720 when they get sick, so they tend to be a 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.600 little bit healthier throughout the year and all of those 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.880 patients who have gotten this virus have have been fine 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.560 and had none of them that had to go to 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.199 the hospital. So having a strong immunitis have definitely makes 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.240 a difference here. Uh. There are oral vitamins you can take, 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.559 like vitamin C and zinc which are really helpful for 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.480 your immune system. Small things like making sure to get 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.760 enough sleep at night is really important. Avoiding alcohol and tobacco, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.720 especially tobacco products now that the disease seems to affect 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.280 the lungs. Um. I'm not going to get into too 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.520 about the medications that you can take, but you've all 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.720 heard there's there's you know, a couple that are out there. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:05.040 There's some controversy around them. But in my practice, I 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.560 am prescribing into my patients, so I think there's the 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.240 benefit outweighs the risk. Well, which which are you which 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.560 are you recommending? I mean not as a solution, but 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:18.920 as a suggestion. Yeah, the hydroxy chloroquine UM, I'm prescribing 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.600 at a very low dose for patients as a prevention 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.000 a lot of side effects that people are getting. Someone 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.400 are actually at the treatment doses which are quite quite 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.800 a lot higher than than the preventive doses. Um at 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.000 the challenge of that. A. It's hard to get and 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.720 be you may be taking medication away from someone who 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.120 needs it for the rumor torred arthritis or another issue. 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.400 So I'd say that very carefully. Well, you know, you 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.679 have to talk with the physician first about taking it. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:48.199 What's the thought process and the reasoning for hydro flee 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:54.160 or whatever working hard. So essentially an immune modulator, so 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.960 it modulates your immune system. The idea is that the 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.800 same way it prevents malaria from affecting your cells, perhaps 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.280 it could prevent coronavirus from effecting yourselves. Got it and 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:08.800 did didn't They didn't? They sort of accidentally uh uh. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.840 In essence, there's sort of an accidental sort of discovery 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.680 when they were looking at people who were I can't 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.360 recall the exacts, but weren't people with lupus not getting 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.120 infected or something like that because they were kind of 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.920 on something like this or something some sort of story 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.800 like this I read. I don't know if that's exactly, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.920 but isn't that kind of how they Yeah, the Chinese 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.880 were really you know, early in the kind of the 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:38.120 usage of experimental treatments. Obviously they had. I don't recall 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.800 exactly how they came across that actually colorquin, but they 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:42.760 were they had done early studies on it, and I 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.040 believe in South Korea Japan it was used as well. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:50.360 So it was really really right experiments in Asia? Right? 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.760 Not interesting? So what does our new normal look like 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.719 like going forward? How is the world going to change? Like? 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.760 What what are we gonna need to do now going 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:05.440 forward after kind of dealing with this? Yeah, so you know, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.640 I don't have a crystal ball, but my sense is 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.160 that what's going to happen is eventually this will die 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.280 down around you know, July or August in the summertime, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:18.239 and then we'll probably have some like some some semblance 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.079 of return to normalcy. Obviously we likely won't have group 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.439 events like basketball games or music festivals or things like that. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.960 I think essential businesses will reopen, uh, And then I think, sadly, 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.600 this may cycle back again in November, December, you know, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.040 in the wintertime, and we'll have to kind of go 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.880 back to doing some level of quarantining to help prevent 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.480 the spread. Ultimately, once we have a vaccine, we can 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.000 then treat this similar to the flu. Life goes on 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.040 every year we have a flut, we get a vaccine. 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:53.719 That's that's unbelievable. I mean, those numbers are those projections 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.280 are just just crazy. I mean, so, you do you 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.040 feel like this, this will be sort of our normal 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.480 at least to the month of July, UM, this sort 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:09.600 of self quarantine UM lifestyle. Well, I think it's going 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.920 to be a gradual reintegration into normal behavior. So I 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.360 don't think you'll have group events for a long time, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.720 if if at all, this summer. I think, you know, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.560 we'll have, you know, interactions with our friends and loved ones. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.000 Maybe restaurants may reopen, but I think beyond that, I 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:30.640 don't see anyone taking steps to to reopen society completely. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:39.080 That's absolutely crazy. Yow, I hope I'm wrong, man, dog, 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:44.480 I hope you're so wrong. Man, that's crazy. Yeah, that's 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.160 that's like the opposite of being a human. I mean, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.960 we're we're we're supposed to socialize, We're supposed to be 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.760 near near each other. You know, it's a pretty incredible 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.760 social experiment we've done here, because for the most part, 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.559 this disease really isn't that deadly for for most young people. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.679 But we as a society and made the choice that 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.680 we're gonna support our elderally, are are the sick those 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.080 with chronic conditions to ensure that they don't offer and 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.240 we're all taking the brunt of it. In a way, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.000 it really speaks volumes to to our our perspective as society. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.079 So is there such a thing as herd immunity for 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.680 something like this? Yeah? But the issue, the problem with 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.520 herd immunity is that in order for that to happen, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.400 a lot of people have to get infected very quickly, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.440 and our our hospital the capacity to handle that many 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.080 uh sick patients. If we had five to ten times 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.800 the number of hospital beds and I see you beds, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.800 we could do something like that and then everyone would 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:40.240 get yea. So so not not not to get to 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.800 the nitty gritty, but you said hospital beds. But even 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.040 if we did, would we have the hospital staff to 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:50.600 cater to those beds? Right? So? Yeah, I would throw 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:54.080 into that, you know, protective equipment, inventil later staff. I meaning, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.280 if we had the five times the amount of capacity, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.600 we we can handle this very different than that we're 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:05.040 handling it now right right? Interesting, that's just crazy stuff, 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.520 is there? Any more information out there about like, um, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.640 you know, if you get it, how long you are 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.719 contagious with it? Can you get it again? That kind 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.000 of stuff. So I don't think the CDC or anyone 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.320 has given you know, significantly accurate guidelines for this. I 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.440 can only speak anecdotally where I've had patients who have 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.600 tested positive on nasal swab for up to a month 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.720 after getting it, meaning they still have active viral RNA 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.080 in their nasal passages. That being said, there's spouse or 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.160 loved one who were with them after they quarantined for 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.480 two weeks hasn't gotten it, So it lends. It leads 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:42.960 me to believe that it may stay in your system 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.040 for for up you know, weeks or more, but you 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.760 may not be as infectious after a week or two. Okay, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.800 So do you think less importantly that this uh will 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.840 open up the idea of carpool lanes two single drivers 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.000 because no one is allowed to be to each other anymore. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.440 Listen it for a doctor that does house, cause this 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.120 is the greatest thing in the world for me. There's 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.480 no one on the freeways, so I hope the trauma 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:17.960 well at some point I've never seen I'm so beautiful. Yeah, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.560 I got better report that at Yosemite has now been 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.200 coming overrun by animals and wildlife, and it's kind of 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:34.480 a nice thing, you know, to see that happened. Wow, incredible. Yeah, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.760 I think, like I'm so I'm like, I'm so speechless. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.080 It's it's hard for me to even I'm still processing 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.960 even to your the information that you gave about about 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:48.360 those those timelines are so um, they're not even palatable 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.680 to me, you know what I mean, just because my 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.320 life is so my whole world is so is social essentially, 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.400 you know what I mean. My business is social, my 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:00.800 career is social. So it's so it's it's so outrageous 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:06.640 to hear these uh, these these projections are just so unfathomable. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.840 The one thing that could could affect that is the 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:14.760 is the availability of widespread testing. So right now we're 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.840 more but with very little data as to who has 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.320 the virus and who doesn't. But if you can imagine 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.120 a world where tests were available at any time, anywhere 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.520 you went, we could essentially have group outings as long 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.880 as everyone tested negative prior to coming to the outing. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.880 So what called you at What I said is that 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.040 if the government gets his act together and to get 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:39.640 a coordinated effort to massively expand the use of testing, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.320 then theoretically we could have some of those larger social events. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.960 Is there is there? Is there? This is outrageous, but 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:55.080 um could you ever foresee some version of a UM 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.360 But it's sort of a quilted version of an approach 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:04.000 of her immunity where you take counties and you say 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.760 we're going to try to grow a herd and make 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:11.119 a herd immunity happen in this region. Everybody, go about 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.800 your business, go socialize, tuck away all the people who 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:18.560 are immuno compromised before that, get them out of town, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.399 put them somewhere else for a temporary amount of time 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:28.160 a month, two months, let that area essentially intentionally self contaminate, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.880 go through the process, develop a herd immunity, and then 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:35.359 send the immuno compromise people back into the region. Yeah. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.240 I think we'll probably see something along those lines with 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:44.120 immunity bracelets, perhaps where you know you can't just community 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.320 bracelet and now you are you can go to green zones, 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.400 but you can't go to red zones or yellow zones 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:51.119 or something along those lines. I don't know. How that 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:57.560 would look exactly, But that is for reopening society. Crazy. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.359 How do we get involved with the manufacturing of that 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:06.000 bracelet company? Exactly? Well, no one's They can probably make 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:13.680 these respense instead. That's incredible. Hey, Doc, is there anything 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:18.560 that we didn't ask you that we should have? Uh? Now, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.280 you guys covered all the main The main things you know, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.480 are testing that's really important to to really overcome this 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:31.200 quarantuning in the meantime and eventually a vaccine um. So 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.400 you guys touch and I would I would, I would 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.520 like to calm some of the hysteria for people that 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.480 that what I've seen in my practice is this is 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:41.520 not as deadly ash as maybe as first reported. So 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.520 while it's really important to quarantine landing the curve, you know, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.080 I think people don't need to buy seventeen rolls of 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.240 toilet paper when they go to the grocery store. I 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.320 think we can calm some of that hysteria. I couldn't 0:18:54.359 --> 0:19:00.360 agree more with you there. Well, Dr thanks still much 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.240 for being on the podcast. If people want to find 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.399 out more about you and your practice, where should they go? 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.280 My practice called Concierge I'm Los Angeles. Website is Concerge 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.800 m d l a dot com and on Instagram Concierge 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:18.840 M d l A got it, Kayler, Thanks for your time, man. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.520 My pleasure is pleasure talking to you guys here you 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:37.760 too many, Bud all right, welcome back to what's the 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:47.200 name of your podcast? How Man Think? Well? Um so good. 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:53.440 I'm alongside Gavin the gra Um. It's up. Well, thanks 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.159 for coming on today. Man, you are guest hosting. Is 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.960 what you're doing? Well, here's my question to you, man, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.200 what guys that are on your show doing? Like what 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.639 could they possibly be doing right now that makes it 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.320 so they can't do this show? I think what happened 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.040 was they heard that I was going to be part 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.320 of it, so they all bailed and you were like, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.840 I don't see the problem, I'll do it, and they 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:19.679 were like, oh, he doesn't know what he's in for. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.360 Al Right, Well, I'll tell you what. I am excited 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.760 about the next guest we have, because well, I am 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.359 a huge I grew up a huge T G I 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:37.080 F fan and a huge fan of the show Full House, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.880 So have didn't we all? Dude? I mean, by the way, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.639 can you still sing the Full House theme song? Like? 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.879 Do you know all the words. M I don't. I 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.760 don't think. I don't think I can match you on 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:57.680 that one. Can you actually a singer? Bro? Yeah, but 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.080 I'm a singer with a bad memory. I be it. It 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:05.680 It went whatever happened to predictability, The Milkman, the Papa Boy, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:11.880 Evening TV. I miss my old familiar friends. Um yeah, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:19.440 you're welcome everybody. Bravo, bravo. I mean the fact that 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.320 people pay money to see you sing and not me 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.760 is well, that's one of the problems that we have 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.840 in this world. The other problem right now is covid 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:32.520 n um. Can we can we bring in Candice Cameron 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:40.600 to having think because I gotta talk to him. Hey, hey, hello, 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:46.280 h okay, I'm sorry, but you just missed me sing 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.800 the theme song to Full House. Um, yeah, don't. I 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:52.359 think at the end of it, I'll do it again 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.440 for you. I can also do the theme song for 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:59.960 Family Matters, which is weirdly similar, and if you sing one, 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:07.280 it's hard to sing the other one. Um, but I digress. Uh, Candice, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:12.439 how are you good? For you? So it seems like 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.280 you're good if you're singing in the Full House theme song? 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:18.520 I mean, you know in times like this, you got 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.199 to find the thing that brings you joy, that brings 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.720 light to your soul. And dad Nabbit, if the full 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.000 House theme song doesn't do that for you, I don't 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:34.400 know what will. What are you doing in these weird 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:40.879 end times to kind of keep your spirits up? Goodness, 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:44.520 We've been spending a lot of time together as a family, 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:46.760 you know. I last year I became an empty nester. 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.760 I three kids and they all left the house and 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:54.400 now they're all back now, so I have a full house. Um, 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:59.640 it's actually been it's been really great. Like as a mom, 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.000 I'm my kids, so I'm happy that their home. But 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:07.119 we've been cooking a lot and taken walks and we 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.440 have gorgeous weather right now, so I ad met. We've 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:13.680 been laying at the pool and you know, playing board 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.040 games and watching Netflix. That's like the basis of what 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.840 we've been doing in between the work that we're actually 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:22.400 trying to do during the day, which as a performer 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:25.479 and entertainer, I'm still working my butt off every day, 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.840 just doing it from home and and in my bedroom, 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.439 which is kind of weird, but making it happen. So 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.400 do you have you have college age children I do 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:43.760 one is uh two and twenty and eighteen. I still 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:48.320 have one in hypo. Have you have you taken any 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:50.879 evenings where you've allowed them to do the cooking, to 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.160 taste some of that patented college cuisine for the family. 0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:59.000 You know what, my husband is like a gourmet chef. 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.960 He is like a master chef. No joke. I'm not 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.359 talking just like, oh you you can grow up the 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.879 barbecue like he's an incredible chef. So my kids had 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.080 actually learned how to cook pretty well, and they've even 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:15.600 living where they have and with other families. My one 0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.080 son played hockey in Minnesota, so he was living with 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:20.680 a billet family and um, you know, they'll take over 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:25.800 cooking and everyone's pretty impressed because they got their dad's 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.880 not not from me. I care not nearly as good 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:37.359 as my husband. Do you have room to adopt another child? 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.560