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Speaker 1: Welcome In Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The

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Speaker 1: r n C completed in my Milwaukee, but Kamala decided

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Speaker 1: to do her own rally in Milwaukee in the r

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Speaker 1: NC arena where the Milwaukee Bucks play, while her actual

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Speaker 1: convention was going on in Chicago. We will discuss about

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Speaker 1: that decision. Michelle and Barack Obama speak in Chicago. The

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Speaker 1: media reactions are rapturous, but Trump surging in the gambling markets,

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Speaker 1: from Kamala as a ten percent favorite to Trump as

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Speaker 1: a five percent favorite. All as the DNC is going on,

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Speaker 1: what is the story there? It appears RFK Junior is

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Speaker 1: going to drop out. I think this is a big story.

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Speaker 1: Odds are up to eighty five percent as we speak

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Speaker 1: to all of you that are FK Junior is going

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Speaker 1: to drop out and potentially endorse Donald Trump. What could

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Speaker 1: that impact be? But I want to start. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the rapturous response that Michelle Obama in particular received. I

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Speaker 1: think one thing you have to contemplate here as we

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Speaker 1: get ready for Kamala to speak on Thursday, is she's

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Speaker 1: nowhere near as good of a speaker as Michelle Obama.

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Speaker 1: She's nowhere near as good of a speaker as Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: They are trying to have her sort of hang on

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Speaker 1: to the coattails of the Obamas. But it is kind

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Speaker 1: of amazing what Michelle Obama is able to get away

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Speaker 1: with saying Michelle Obama, Buck and Barack, to their credit,

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Speaker 1: are one hundred millionaires. They have parlayed the presidential run

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Speaker 1: into generational wealth the likes of which very few people

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Speaker 1: will ever attain have ever attained, And they have homes

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Speaker 1: right now. Buck And look, I don't begrudge this. I'm

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Speaker 1: a capitalist. I want people to make as much money

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Speaker 1: as possible. But if you have a ten million dollar

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Speaker 1: plus home in Hawaii, if you have a ten million

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Speaker 1: dollar plus home in Martha's Vineyard, and if you have

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Speaker 1: a ten million dollar plus home in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: That is three ten million dollar plus homes.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Vineyard home is probably more like twenty

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Speaker 2: just to be I think they bought it for twelve

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Speaker 2: or fifteen. They would sell it now for twenty to

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Speaker 2: twenty five if they sold it.

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Speaker 1: So you can argue that they have sixty seventy million

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Speaker 1: dollars potentially in property just in the three homes. And again,

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Speaker 1: I want all of you to be super wealthy. They

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Speaker 1: have four homes? Do they have four? They have one

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Speaker 1: in Chicago too, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Know, Yes, Chicago, Hawaii, DC, Martha's Vineyard. Oh, they've got

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Speaker 2: four like all good socialists. Barack Obama has four mansions

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Speaker 2: at his disposal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got two. So I don't want people out

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Speaker 1: there like I'm not begrudging wealth. If you're fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: to have one home, congratulations. If you're fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: have two, congratulations. I don't want somebody to pull this

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Speaker 1: some point and day. Clay Travis is anti but I like,

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Speaker 1: I get it. If you have some success, one of

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Speaker 1: the things you can do is by multiple homes.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: But whoever wrote her speech, I can't stop paying attention

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Speaker 1: to this buck. Whoever wrote her speech thought it was

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Speaker 1: a good idea for Michelle Obama, one hundred millionaire, to

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Speaker 1: look down on all the assembled much poorer than her

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Speaker 1: people in that arena, to stare into the camera talking

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Speaker 1: to millions and millions of people who could never dream

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Speaker 1: of owning one home, much less three or four. She

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Speaker 1: thought it was important that she lecture everybody about how

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Speaker 1: her parents distrusted people for taking more than they needed.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this cut.

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Speaker 3: She and my father didn't aspire to be wealthy. In fact,

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Speaker 3: they were suspicious of folks who took more than they needed.

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Speaker 3: They understood that it wasn't enough for their kids to

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Speaker 3: thrive if everyone else around us was drowning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you're proud of this speech, did she read

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Speaker 1: the speech book before she delivered it? Hardly, because you

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Speaker 1: and I I was just talking to you about this

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Speaker 1: off air. I think more about counter punches than I

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Speaker 1: do punches, because anybody can throw a punch. If you've

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Speaker 1: ever boxed, anybody can raise their fist and throw a punch.

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Speaker 1: If you don't think about what people are going to

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Speaker 1: do back to you, then you just set yourself up

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Speaker 1: for destruction.

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Speaker 2: I am. I have always found the Obamas to be

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Speaker 2: both of them incredibly disingenuous, and particularly on subjects like this,

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Speaker 2: So this is not a surprise at all. I think

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Speaker 2: I see this a little different differently, Clay, than at

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Speaker 2: least when I'm when I'm gathered from you, which is

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Speaker 2: I don't I think that if she read I think

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Speaker 2: she thought it was great. I think if she read

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Speaker 2: the speech ten times now, she would say that's great

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Speaker 2: because her money is good money, because she deserves to

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Speaker 2: be super wealthy. It's the greedy, fat cats out there

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Speaker 2: who are bad and probably vote Republican. They're the problem.

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Speaker 2: It's always the other. But this is classic. Look look

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Speaker 2: at it. I mean, I don't want to always say

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Speaker 2: this is about communism. Look at any communist society. People say, oh,

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Speaker 2: how can they be communists? They're so rich that people

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Speaker 2: who run communist societies and authoritarian societies are always incredibly rich. Actually,

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Speaker 2: some of the richest people in the world, some of

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Speaker 2: the richest people in all of in all of humanity.

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Speaker 2: The whole game is they pretend to care about the

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Speaker 2: poor people. And that's the game with the Obamas. They

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Speaker 2: pretend to care about the poor people. Look where Obama.

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Speaker 2: How much time is he spend in his I'm sure

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Speaker 2: mansion in Chicago, not a lot. Where does Barack Obama

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Speaker 2: post presidence? He spend his time in the ritziest enclaves

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Speaker 2: guy who's going back to help the poor, the downtrodden,

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Speaker 2: the impoverished. Whatever. And Michelle Obama I tweeted this, I

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Speaker 2: totally believe this a lot of her popularity just comes

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Speaker 2: from the fact that we're told all the time she's

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Speaker 2: so popular, she's so great. And if you even ask

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Speaker 2: a question like why everyone shouts you down? And how

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Speaker 2: dare you she's amazing? You know she's more popular than

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Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. She's more popular than Oprah. Well, I know

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Speaker 2: why Dolly Parton. I know why Oprah is so popular.

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Speaker 2: Why is Michelle Obama so popular? Because they tell us

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Speaker 2: how amazing she is every five seconds, and some of us,

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Speaker 2: I think, have been tired of this for a long time.

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Speaker 2: But my point merely, Clay on the wealth, this isn't

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Speaker 2: It's not a mistake. This lack of self awareness is

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Speaker 2: really Actually she thinks that the rules are different for good,

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Speaker 2: super rich democrats like her. It's different when you're a

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Speaker 2: super rich democrat who talks about poor people, then you're

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Speaker 2: allowed to be so rich. Clay Bernie Sanders has three houses.

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Speaker 2: It is pretty crazy speaking last night. He's a socialist

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Speaker 2: with three houses. And I'll say, oh, well, I made

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Speaker 2: you know. I wrote good books and people like them

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Speaker 2: and they bought and millions of I's like yeah, And

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Speaker 2: some people start businesses and some people do other things.

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Speaker 2: This is all a smoke screen for you're seeing some

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Speaker 2: of these Harris policies. Taxing unrealized gains. It's crazy, a

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Speaker 2: catastrophically stupid idea. It's up there with banning fracking, which

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Speaker 2: would result in the destruction of the US economy and

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Speaker 2: mass starvation if you actually did that, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's not clay, that's not even an exaggeration of any kind.

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Speaker 2: If you ban fracking tomorrow or next year, or in

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Speaker 2: five years even you would have economic devastations. So now

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Speaker 2: Kamala's handler's all say, oh, well, she's not gonna do that.

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Speaker 2: Kamala also has put price controls out there, horrifically stupid idea,

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Speaker 2: and now taxing unrealized gains. This is the politics of envy.

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Speaker 2: This is the other bad people have the money. And

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama is as always been a big voice for this, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, rich people need to pay their

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Speaker 2: fair share. But I'll take that fifteen million dollars you

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Speaker 2: know deal from Netflix and have my army of accountants

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Speaker 2: make sure I pay the bare minimum. Yeah, unrealized capital

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Speaker 2: gains is a big deal, and I think we should

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Speaker 2: explain that because I think a lot of people out

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Speaker 2: there sort of reflexively don't even understand how awful of

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Speaker 2: a decision it is. So right now, the capital gains

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Speaker 2: tax rate is twenty percent. That is, if you have

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Speaker 1: All of this as perfect tax advice, all right, but

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Speaker 1: in general, if you have a capital gain that you

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Speaker 1: hold for more than a year, you pay a tax

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Speaker 1: rate of twenty percent on it. Where this might well

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Speaker 1: you've lived in that house for several years. Technically you

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Speaker 1: for a year would be twenty percent. All right, unrealized

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Speaker 1: capital gains tax AI. First of all, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if it's constitutional. Let's start there. I hope the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court would strike it down if it were actually passed.

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Speaker 1: What it would mean is if you own an asset

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Speaker 1: So if you bought a stock for ten dollars twenty

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Speaker 1: where you purchased it. It's it is an unbelievable disaster

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Speaker 2: It's actually it's actually even that that would be bad.

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Speaker 2: It's much worse than that because it would affect the

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Speaker 2: common And notice how these rules are being kind of

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Speaker 2: you know, the overall media is not really they're just ah,

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Speaker 2: you know, Brock speech was so amazing. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama, I've never seen so many create so many

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Speaker 2: straw men to attack police. Like some people say that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you should be a horrible person and rip

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Speaker 2: be a horrible person and do nothing for society. But

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Speaker 2: this is Barack Obama always sets up these false constructs

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Speaker 2: of what other people are the other and by that

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Speaker 2: he means the other side are saying, play on the

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Speaker 2: untaxed gains thing. This matter fact private companies, so it

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Speaker 2: hits all gains. If you're building the next Amazon, you're

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Speaker 2: building the next Google, which you know unfortunately are run

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Speaker 2: by communists, but whatever, you're building these companies, and there

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Speaker 2: are other great private companies out there that you know

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Speaker 2: have an annual tax liability assessed by some third party saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: your company's now worth you know, a billion dollars on paper,

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Speaker 2: so you have to pay x amount, you know, two

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Speaker 2: may be. This will destroy private enterprise. This is this

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Speaker 2: a few years when this thing grows and the assessed

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Speaker 2: it's worth. How do you even determine that a private

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Speaker 2: some pencil pusher says, these are social insane ideas that

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is pushing and we're not even talking about

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the country is not even talking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think one of the craziest things

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I don't think

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Speaker 2: They're trying to run out the clock. It's a race

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Speaker 1: Well, the Democrats found it to be true. In twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're going

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot a lot of married. I mean

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Speaker 2: we can just tell too, because whatever you make jokes

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Speaker 2: about married life, or you know, I start to things

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Speaker 2: dawn on me. We get a lot of feedback right away.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of you were married dudes. Anyway, For

436
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Speaker 2: the single guys out there, I always say this, you

437
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Speaker 2: know nothing on a first date. You know people who say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's an amazing story if you fell in

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Speaker 2: love with your wife on the first date or whatever,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's like, but that's like you were,

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Speaker 2: like you placed.

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Speaker 1: A bet and you were right. Say let me cut

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Speaker 1: you off here for a sec. Social media. You dated

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. I bet you saw in a big way.

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Speaker 1: I bet you saw in a big way your ability

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Speaker 1: to research the person you were going on a date

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Speaker 1: with compared to when you first graduated college, when maybe

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Speaker 1: they have a Facebook profile. So by the time, you know,

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Speaker 1: five years ago, when you're on dates, you can look

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Speaker 1: up and see like, oh, this person's you know, Instagram

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Speaker 1: profile or whatever. Like you had a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You weren't flying as blind. Now it might not be

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Speaker 1: an accurate reflection of them, but you could at least

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Speaker 1: see something about them, right, Oh, people, I had people

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Speaker 1: go on first dates with me and knew a shocking

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Speaker 1: amount about because there's so much online, right, So you

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Speaker 1: know there's that it's sort of weird as I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would never use the word celebrity.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a celebrity, but I'm like a public person.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say public person, right, I have

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff in public life. Anyway, what I'm

462
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Speaker 2: saying about the single guys, or to the single guys,

463
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Speaker 2: is you don't know anything on the first date. You

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Speaker 2: start to get a sense of things on the third date,

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Speaker 2: and you know your first impressions may be all correct,

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Speaker 2: but you don't know. You can have a great first date,

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Speaker 2: and you get three or four dates in and you're like,

468
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Speaker 2: this is not going to work at all. This is

469
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Speaker 2: the situation of switching candidates in a presidential election in

470
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Speaker 2: the middle of July, a few months the American public

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Speaker 2: heuth they have no idea who Kamala as a candidate

472
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Speaker 2: really is, and it's all been the blanks have all

473
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Speaker 2: been filled in by an adoring media that's completely feckless

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Speaker 2: and reckless. Okay, they just don't care. I think clearly,

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Speaker 2: what the moment the recognition hits that, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: familiarity hurts Kamala's numbers. That's a cycle. That's a cycle

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Speaker 2: they can't undo. And I think that's when you'll I

478
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Speaker 2: think you'll start to see a little bit of panic

479
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Speaker 2: creep into the media again. By the middle of September,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna be like, oh my god, what have we done.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna say that, it'll just speak little cracks

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Speaker 2: in the damn here and there. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 2: all gonna because they will do anything to win, but

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Speaker 2: you'll start to see a few dissident Democrats who will

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Speaker 2: write things like, maybe Kamala wasn't the greatest choice. You'll

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be nervousness set in if she

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a convention bounce, and right now she's having

489
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Speaker 1: the opposite of a convention bounce. Now, partly that might

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Speaker 1: be RFK Junior related, because people are looking at the

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Speaker 1: significance of him coming off. In fact, eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: two eight two two eight a two. Are there people

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Speaker 1: listening to us right now who are not diehard Trump voters,

494
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Speaker 1: certainly not comma of voters, But maybe you were gonna

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Speaker 1: vote RFK Junior if he dropped out and endorsed Trump.

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Speaker 1: How would your vote change, if at all. I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious for people out there listening to us right now,

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Speaker 1: because you were asking about what percentage are single guys,

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Speaker 1: I would say a solid twenty percent of this audience

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Speaker 1: buck is still furious about COVID, and I think in

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Speaker 1: that twenty percent, there are people that are still angry

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Speaker 1: at Trump over how he handled COVID, and they might

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Speaker 1: be willing to vote RFK Junior just because they're so mad.

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Speaker 1: What would you do if RFK Junior dropped out and

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Speaker 1: voted basically through his allegiance behind Trump, Trump commits to putting,

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Speaker 1: as we discussed yesterday, potentially putting RFK Junior into his cabinet.

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Speaker 1: What would your thought process be? What choices would you

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Speaker 1: make out there in the audience. I would be curious

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Speaker 1: to hear from some of you, because I do think

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Speaker 1: this has the potential to be the most impactful outcome

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Speaker 1: other than the debates, which you and I both I

512
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Speaker 1: think agree, are going to be large boxing matches where

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Speaker 1: both people turned to their corner and raise their hands

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Speaker 1: right after in say they won.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get you almost never get

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Speaker 1: to knock out. That happened with Joe Biden. It would

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Speaker 1: be hard for Trump to be so bad or Kamala

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Speaker 1: to be so bad for eighty percent or seventy five

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Speaker 1: percent of people to have the same opinion.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's also a built in advantage that Kamala has,

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Speaker 2: which is that by not being a person visibly suffering

523
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Speaker 2: from dementia, it's going to be a huge improvement for Democrats.

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Speaker 2: And so, I mean, you know, you're you're in a

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Speaker 2: can't lose situation there, right. It's like if you're in

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Speaker 2: a comedy show and you're going up after the person

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Speaker 2: who totally bombed, Like, if you can get a couple

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Speaker 2: of laughs, you're doing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: The analogy that makes the most sense, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of sports fans know this, When the starting quarterback gets

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Speaker 1: benched and the backup comes in and completes three straight passes,

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Speaker 1: you turn to your buddy and you say, hey, maybe

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Speaker 1: this guy should have been playing all along. And then

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Speaker 1: typically typically there's a bad interception or a sack fumble

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Speaker 1: and you say, oh, this is why they were the backup.

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Speaker 1: It usually doesn't happen that suddenly Tom Brady gets put

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Speaker 1: in and is the greatest of all time. Most of

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Speaker 1: the time when a backup comes in, you see what

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Speaker 1: the coaches saw which kept him from winning the opening job,

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Speaker 1: winning the starting job.

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Speaker 2: You see that.

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Speaker 1: But I think the honeymoon phase is like the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback comes in, you're down fourteen points, leads a drive,

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Speaker 1: you get a touchdown, and you.

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Speaker 2: Think, hey, maybe we're gonna win this game.

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Speaker 1: This guy's awesome, this guy's incredible, and then they turned

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Speaker 1: them all over two times in a row, and you

548
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Speaker 1: end up right back where you were before, sometimes in

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Speaker 1: a worse spot. I think that's what's gonna happen with Kamala. Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: in Columbus, well, guess what. Sorry, A lot of residents

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Speaker 1: there are contin contending with the data breach that happened

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Speaker 1: at the end of July. Not uncommon for cyber hackers

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Speaker 1: to attend and steal the data in a city's database.

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Speaker 1: Think about what's there addresses tax infos, social security numbers.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate that as many as half a million citizens might

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Speaker 2: before we get the calls. Now, I understand like some

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Speaker 2: no time for consistency. That's the big thing, No time

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Speaker 2: for consistency. So you get things like this Axios piece,

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Speaker 2: which Elon Musk shared on x so at. Now this

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Speaker 2: has millions and millions of views an Axios piece. Don't

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Speaker 2: call it price controls? How price gouging bands really work? Now,

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Speaker 2: in the community notes on x readers added that the

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Speaker 2: exact same author, not just Axios. The exact same author

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Speaker 2: has referred to price controls in the past, including referring

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Speaker 2: to a UK cap on grocery store profits as price controls.

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Speaker 2: So it's price controls when the UK does it, But

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Speaker 2: when Kamala Harris is running, you call it something else,

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Speaker 2: you know, you call it an anti gouging mechanism or something.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it Isn't it clear in a sense? Isn't it

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Speaker 2: fun to sort of to see laid theare how dishonest

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Speaker 2: and grotesque? All of this is from the from the

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Speaker 2: mainstream media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this started and I thought was particularly

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Speaker 1: egregious as it pertains to Kamala and how to phrase

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Speaker 1: the decisions that she's making. Remember, I think it was

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Speaker 1: within a day or two of her becoming the default

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Speaker 1: nominee they decided that the phrase borders are was inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: so they recognize the Kamala team did how much on

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Speaker 1: the hook they were for the disaster at the border.

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Speaker 2: And they did it.

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Speaker 1: Really they just tried to muddy the waters by saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: she was never officially the borders are as if it

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Speaker 1: were an official title, right like President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: It's just shorthand when you have somebody who's in charge

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Speaker 1: instead of saying they're in charge of the border, it's

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Speaker 1: just I mean, I don't think she was actually the

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Speaker 1: Czar of Russia. I don't think anybody I'm that was

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Speaker 1: making that complex making that argument. I'm offended because first

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Speaker 1: of all, gender, it's Czarina, right, it should not be czar,

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Speaker 1: it should be Zarena. And are we also assuming maybe

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Speaker 1: it's not a czar, it's a zem Do we even

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Speaker 1: know we're assuming gender? It could be any number of

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Speaker 1: people holding the role of border. It could be plural,

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Speaker 1: a plural person.

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Speaker 2: Oh Wich brings me to this Rolling Stone piece, another

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Speaker 2: fun one, and Clay you could speak to this one.

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Speaker 2: I will say, I grew up in a I grew

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Speaker 2: up in a family and this may shock some of you,

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Speaker 2: where my father own substantial camouflage for the purpose of

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Speaker 2: hunting and like actually using camouflage right, not as a

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Speaker 2: fashion statement, but my dad had like a closet with

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Speaker 2: all this camo stuff, and when I would go out

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Speaker 2: shooting or hunting with him, we would wear it. Have

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Speaker 2: you seen this from Rolling Stone? Yes, where they're talking

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Speaker 2: about the hat. The camouflage hat for the Harris Walls

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Speaker 2: campaign reclaims the rural and southern identity that mainstream Democrats

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Speaker 2: have long ignored. First, of all, I just think it's funny.

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Speaker 2: They're just like, yeah, we're just gonna fool all those

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Speaker 2: hillbillies with our camouflage hat. You know, like all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden they'd be like, oh yeah, I like the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: And you see the camouflage hot hat. Photo they've chosen

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Speaker 2: is the non binary, arm pit haired daughter of Doug

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Speaker 2: em Ha. Now, I look, say what you will about this,

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Speaker 2: this m Hoff woman. I don't think that she necessarily

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Speaker 2: appeals to rural America's sensibilities and cultural ties.

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Speaker 1: Every SEC state is going to vote for Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: in the South, where people like to wear camouflage when

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Speaker 1: they go hunting, and it's not going to be remotely close.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think that putting Tim Walls's name onto

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Speaker 1: a baseball cap that happens to be camo is going

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Speaker 1: to make it more popular.

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Speaker 2: But this is like.

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Speaker 1: Sort of post modern hipsterdom camoflage, as you would say,

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Speaker 1: like in Brooklyn, you know how like people suddenly started

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Speaker 1: drinking like Budweiser because they were trying to be counter revolutionary.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, they were drinking it ironically, and they wear camouflage ironically.

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Speaker 2: Some people wear it. So the deer, don't see them.

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Speaker 2: Good four