Speaker 1: Hi, Sabrina. Hey, Will I got a question? Yes, if
Speaker 1: a train lives New York going sixty two miles? Now
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. What's your favorite Halloween movie of all time?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, now that I've like, I don't even know
Speaker 2: why that took me a second. Hocus Pocus, hands down? Yes,
Speaker 2: I love? And I just now started thinking is Monroe
Speaker 2: too young to watch it? She's five, and I want
Speaker 2: her to love it like I do, so I don't
Speaker 2: want it to be too early. What do you think
Speaker 2: I don't want five?
Speaker 1: You want my honest opinion? Yes, I'm going to freak
Speaker 1: you out. Okay, never seen it?
Speaker 2: That does?
Speaker 1: And my friend is in it? Like I literally I've
Speaker 1: never seen it. Oh, it's so I can't tell if
Speaker 1: it's never seen it?
Speaker 2: That's wild? Will, Yeah, I don't. I don't really even
Speaker 2: know what to say about it because that's just crazy
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Never seen it is that nuts? Yeah? I really I
Speaker 1: am disappointed in Giant Letter. Yes, I have never seen
Speaker 1: Hocus Focus.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Break into Electric Boogoloo?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, so then we're both disappointments.
Speaker 2: But I know that's not a scary one because you
Speaker 2: don't like scary, of course not.
Speaker 1: It's not scary at all. It's just awesome. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying awesome. But it's like all disappointment.
Speaker 2: It's a Halloween movie.
Speaker 1: Focus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, yours, no, God.
Speaker 1: It's nothing. What's fair to do with Halloween. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I'm disappointed that you haven't seen it. See, we
Speaker 1: can both have disappointments in our.
Speaker 2: Life of not being but it's your favorite Halloween.
Speaker 1: I don't really have one. No, well, not crazy because
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Halloween guy. I never have been.
Speaker 1: I don't like being scared. Being scared is really scary,
Speaker 1: and I'm not a huge candy guy. Dressing up it's
Speaker 1: not my favorite thing, and being outside and walking with
Speaker 1: a bunch of strangers also not my favorite thing. It's
Speaker 1: just it's kind of not my jam Halloween. So I
Speaker 1: met my Answervie scrooged with Yeah, scrooged with Bill Murray.
Speaker 1: Great Christmas movie, Yeah, I've got Wow.
Speaker 2: I love Halloween.
Speaker 1: Wow, you do? I do?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Which is brew going on there? Wow?
Speaker 2: Yes, Halloween is so fun. I'm actually having a really
Speaker 2: hard time figuring out what my family's well, I know,
Speaker 2: what our main family, uh, for Halloween itself, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to like a special Disney it's on the Disney lot,
Speaker 2: Like I'm going to a fun Disney event, and I've
Speaker 2: I cannot think of something that I want to do
Speaker 2: for the family for that event, and I put a
Speaker 2: to have for everything. Yes, I do. Like last year
Speaker 2: we were a league of their own and Monroe and
Speaker 2: I wore the pink little dresses.
Speaker 1: Jordan was the The Incredibles.
Speaker 2: No, we haven't done that yet, and Perfecta's I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, that's like to me. The event we're
Speaker 2: going to Zombie Oh, that's right, Zombie Descendants. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got a. I put a lot of effort into
Speaker 2: our costumes. I loved ours. Last year Ledger was a
Speaker 2: baseball so I wanted something really focused around him. The
Speaker 2: year before more Monroe was Marilyn Monroe and we were
Speaker 2: all her like backup dancers in the tuxes. Yeah, monsters
Speaker 2: in she was boo. I mean, I love doing the family.
Speaker 2: The family stuff is what it's about. I love it
Speaker 2: and I usually have at least two to one year.
Speaker 2: One of the first years Jordan and I were together
Speaker 2: I went to so many Halloween events that I probably
Speaker 2: had like five different costumes. Oh my god, it takes
Speaker 2: a lot of time. I'm actually kind of stayed up
Speaker 2: last night racking my brain, going what are we going
Speaker 2: to do for the second one? It's it's so important.
Speaker 2: The pictures are amazing.
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do what I do every year. I'm gonna lock the gate,
Speaker 1: shut off the line.
Speaker 2: You don't even pass out candy.
Speaker 1: Even if we kept the gates open. Nobody on our
Speaker 1: street ever gets strict.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, our neighborhood does not have a lot of
Speaker 2: tricker treaters either.
Speaker 1: Like literally zero, Yeah, nobody shows up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I'm gonna at least put some
Speaker 2: candy out and not care if someone comes and just
Speaker 2: takes the whole role that can and.
Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna be doing on Halloween. I'm
Speaker 1: driving down to the OC to get a bowl of candy.
Speaker 2: Yes, there you go, or I could just amazon you some.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be great. That's awesome. If you could do
Speaker 1: it overnight, i'd appreciate. I'd like it your by tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody, and welcome back to magical rewind the
Speaker 1: show that makes you want to grab your friends, your pjs,
Speaker 1: and your popcorn and go back to a time when
Speaker 1: all the houses are smart, the waves tsunamis, and don't
Speaker 1: come to my house on Halloween. Yes, Halloween steadily approaches,
Speaker 1: as does our constant need to review d coms. And
Speaker 1: this week we're checking two different boxes, my friend scares
Speaker 1: and sequels, because we're tackling two thousand and ones. Returned
Speaker 1: to a classic Halloween Town two. This time it's personal.
Speaker 1: That's not what it's called, everybody, it's Calibars revenge. It
Speaker 1: originally aired October twelfth, two thousand and one, a few
Speaker 1: weeks away from Halloween, which you know makes sense thematically.
Speaker 1: It is the second installment in the Halloween Town series,
Speaker 1: and story wise, is set just two years after the
Speaker 1: end of our first film. Now, if y'all remember, we
Speaker 1: really like the original, a movie that has become a
Speaker 1: crucial part of the spooky season and all the Lexicona films.
Speaker 1: People make this a thing. You gotta watch Halloween Town
Speaker 1: every year. And some may even call this movie Godfather
Speaker 1: iiO of d coms because many fans find the second
Speaker 1: film to be better than its predecessor. Paste Magazine heard
Speaker 1: of that one, but Paced Magazine actually ranks Halloween Town
Speaker 1: two as the third best Disney Halloween movie, out ranking
Speaker 1: the OG and Collider lists Halloween Town two as the
Speaker 1: ninth best dcom over all.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And most of these positive reviews have to do with
Speaker 1: the movies darker and scarier tone in comparison to the
Speaker 1: first movies, kind of goofy and campy vibes. Halloween Town
Speaker 1: two would be followed by two more Halloween Town movies,
Speaker 1: but let's just say neither of those made any lists
Speaker 1: and went back to being more comedic in tone. Apparently
Speaker 1: we haven't seen those yet, but we shall see. Also,
Speaker 1: many of the reviews cite an episode of Buffy the
Speaker 1: Vampire Slayer called Halloween that aired four years earlier as
Speaker 1: the inspiration for this film, because it has the exact
Speaker 1: same plot. Sabrina, did you watch Buffy?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 1: Do you remember the Halloween episode?
Speaker 2: I feel like they were all kind of Halloween episode.
Speaker 1: Well, they're all they're all mystical kind of thing.
Speaker 2: They know. No, I don't, I do not remember, And
Speaker 2: I really did like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, so I
Speaker 2: am sure if I started watching it, I would have
Speaker 2: remembered it. I will remember it for sure.
Speaker 1: This movie is filmed in We've got a big shock
Speaker 1: here people, Canada, Yes, Vancouver and British Columbia be exact.
Speaker 1: But one very weird thing about this movie is the
Speaker 1: title Calibar is spelled with a K, yet in the
Speaker 1: first movie, the villain's name is spelled with a C,
Speaker 1: and most importantly, in the credits of this movie, it
Speaker 1: also starts with the sea. It's also spelled with the
Speaker 1: C in the captions. So talk about confusing, and the
Speaker 1: captions help when you're old and also when you're old,
Speaker 1: so it was great to have those on and yes
Speaker 1: they're so a little confusing now. Disney casting and legal
Speaker 1: always seems to pull off the unthinkable by getting the
Speaker 1: exact same cast back for a sequel, and Halloween Town
Speaker 1: two is no exception. Everyone returned except for one cult
Speaker 1: classic character in his voice. Benny the Skeleton taxi driver
Speaker 1: did return, but now is voiced by Richard Side, replacing
Speaker 1: the films first it was Reno Romano, who is a
Speaker 1: very good guy, great voiceover actor and fellow Batman, and
Speaker 1: yet the film persisted. Good for them and it's available
Speaker 1: now to watch on Disney Plus. You can jump right
Speaker 1: into it right away or wait until after you listen
Speaker 1: to our thoughts. But either way, please remember that in
Speaker 1: many places, when you buy a new mattress, the retailer
Speaker 1: is legally required to offer to take away your old
Speaker 1: one for free. In California, for example, mattress retailers must
Speaker 1: offer no charge take back upon delivery. Just something you
Speaker 1: should all know, Sabrina, we knew about Halloween Town two
Speaker 1: as a film. Did you know about the other title
Speaker 1: that Calibar's Revenge? And most importantly, had you ever seen
Speaker 1: it before?
Speaker 2: I had not seen this one before, and I had
Speaker 2: no idea there was a second part of the title.
Speaker 2: I just know of Halloween Town one, two, three.
Speaker 1: Three four, that's it, okay, Calibar's Revenge. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what it was called either, no idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I remembered Calibar from the first when
Speaker 2: I put it on. I remember it from the first one,
Speaker 2: of course, But other.
Speaker 1: Than that, I frankly thought the twist at the end
Speaker 1: of this movie was going to be that it was
Speaker 1: the same Calibar and he like came back and younged himself. Up,
Speaker 1: not that it was his kid acually going to be
Speaker 1: him right, which would have been an interesting way to go.
Speaker 1: But anyway, do you watch any certain movies at Halloween
Speaker 1: every year?
Speaker 2: I do. I watch hocus Pocus every year, and in
Speaker 2: my head, what I would love to do is watch
Speaker 2: as add this to our list of stuff for the kids.
Speaker 2: They are such great movies, and I've always heard such
Speaker 2: great things about them, and I remember the first one
Speaker 2: always being amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one could be a little scary anyway, So
Speaker 1: open the portal and stop the spell. It's time for
Speaker 1: the synopsis. What an angry warlock steals a powerful spell
Speaker 1: book from her grandmother, Marnie Piper must race against time
Speaker 1: with the help of her friends and family to stop
Speaker 1: him from turning Halloween Town into a gray, lifeless realm.
Speaker 1: This movie was directed by Mary Lambert, who did not
Speaker 1: direct the original That was Duane Dunham. But it's always
Speaker 1: it's great see a female listed in the credits. Mary
Speaker 1: has had a long and very impressive career, first breaking
Speaker 1: out as the music director for Madonna. Her career began
Speaker 1: with the nineteen eighty four hit Borderline and would include
Speaker 1: the iconic visuals for lack of virgin material girl and
Speaker 1: like a prayer. She made videos that helped define the
Speaker 1: medium absolutely arguably some of the best ever. She also
Speaker 1: worked with The Gogs, Jana Jackson and Bobby Brown. Awesome.
Speaker 1: She transitioned into movies and was apparently a big horror fan,
Speaker 1: starting with another sequel, Pet Cemetery I, this time It's
Speaker 1: Personal Again, and then the TV show Tails from the
Speaker 1: Crypt So yep, she must like the spooky stuff. Since then,
Speaker 1: she's directed a bunch of modern TV like The Blacklist,
Speaker 1: The Goldbergs Arrow, and the recent Netflix movie with Heather
Speaker 1: Graham and Jason Biggs Best Christmas ever, So shout out
Speaker 1: to Mary Lambert. Pretty amazing career. And on the acting side,
Speaker 1: former Magical Rewind guest Kimberly j. Brown returns as the
Speaker 1: lead Marnie Piper. Kimberly was already in three Broadway shows
Speaker 1: at the age of nine and got an Emmy nomination
Speaker 1: at eleven, So what have you done with your life?
Speaker 1: We also remember her as the star of Quint's another
Speaker 1: d com, and she does appear in the first three
Speaker 1: of the four Halloween Town movies until she was unceremoniously
Speaker 1: replaced by Sarah Paxton, and I just how do you? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't get how you do that. And I'm not
Speaker 1: just saying that because she's a friend of mine. I
Speaker 1: just don't get how you do that. Brown has embraced
Speaker 1: her position as a Halloween icon, writing the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: children's book Poppin's Pumpkin Patch Parade. I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: one again, Poppin's Pumpkin Patch Parade. Can you say that
Speaker 1: one time for me?
Speaker 2: Popkin's Pumpkin Patch Parade.
Speaker 1: No, it's not Popkins, it's Poppins.
Speaker 2: Poppins.
Speaker 1: See it's not easy. Poppy's Poppin Patch Parade. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And she runs an Etsy shop with some Halloween Town
Speaker 1: theme merchandise, And in twenty twenty four, she was in
Speaker 1: the news when she married her Halloween Town co star
Speaker 1: Daniel Koontz. So yeah, apparently Calibar not such a bad guy.
Speaker 1: They reconnected in twenty sixteen when he reached out to
Speaker 1: make a fun YouTube video and the rest is history.
Speaker 1: And now is a wonderful time to tell you that
Speaker 1: Daniel will be the guest and the Magical Rewind Parkopper
Speaker 1: episode this week, So we're thrilled for you to get
Speaker 1: to know him a little bit better, but probably not
Speaker 1: as well as his wife does. And we call it
Speaker 1: the Dabney Reynolds sherif for a reason, and this week
Speaker 1: she returns to it. It's the legendary Debbie Reynolds as
Speaker 1: Aggie Cromwell. She is a dcom royalty for this movie.
Speaker 1: With a Hollywood career that lasted seventy years. She starred
Speaker 1: in movies like Singing in the Rain, How the West
Speaker 1: Was Won, The Unsinkable Molly Brown, which she was OSCAR
Speaker 1: nominated for, and Albert Brooks's Mother. She was also one
Speaker 1: of the earliest tabloid queens. Her personal life always part
Speaker 1: of pop culture and listened to everything else she was
Speaker 1: part of. She was a cabaret performer, later opening her
Speaker 1: own dance studio here in Los Angeles, which Sabrina has
Speaker 1: talked about many times. She was Tony nominated, Emmy nominated
Speaker 1: for Will and Grace. She was also an entrepreneur, owning
Speaker 1: her own Las Vegas casino, Damn. Debbie Reynolds passed away
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen at the age of eighty four, just
Speaker 1: one day after the death of her daughter, Carrie Fisher,
Speaker 1: who is of course, best known as Princess Leah in
Speaker 1: Star Wars, which also means Reynolds is the grandmother of
Speaker 1: actress Billy Lord. We have now been doing this podcast
Speaker 1: for a long time. We reviewed many dcoms, and I
Speaker 1: think I could say without a doubt we are yet
Speaker 1: to come across a bigger star. Would you agree?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: She absolutely a absolute legend. She was a legend when
Speaker 1: she's alive. Now she's going to be a legend forever.
Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite things going to the
Speaker 2: Demie Reynolds dance studio is she was there so often,
Speaker 2: so she would be behind the desk.
Speaker 1: Did you talk toever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean she was so friendly and so just always
Speaker 2: bringing such a positive attitude. And I feel like she
Speaker 2: really and from the interviews we've had from the guests
Speaker 2: of the movie, like talks about how she really took
Speaker 2: on such a huge importance of inspiring the next generation.
Speaker 2: And I will tell you I was so little and
Speaker 2: just thought by I mean, I feel like my whole
Speaker 2: face would just be flushed. I was so excited to
Speaker 2: get to see her, and she would just always say
Speaker 2: the night, love your outfit, even if it's just something
Speaker 2: like that or go kill him kid, you know, or whatever,
Speaker 2: like go in there and just anything going in because
Speaker 2: whether it was an audition or a class, she just
Speaker 2: wanted you to feel so inspired. And I feel like
Speaker 2: everyone that went has gone to that studio definitely feels that.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love that. It's also worth noting that
Speaker 1: Reynolds appeared in all four Halloween Town movies, as does
Speaker 1: Judith Hoague, who returns as Gwen Cromwell. Piper Hogue had
Speaker 1: been seen in TV shows like Quantum Leap, Roseanne, and
Speaker 1: melrose Place, Awesome List, as well as in a big
Speaker 1: blockbuster movie, Armageddon. But our listeners will freak out knowing
Speaker 1: she was April O'Neal in the nineteen ninety cinematic attempt
Speaker 1: at a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles.
Speaker 2: Movie, And you guys got a listen to that interview
Speaker 2: because that was one of the best inspirational stories she
Speaker 2: told us about Debbie Reynolds.
Speaker 1: It was really cool. Also, in her first movie role ever,
Speaker 1: despite being a small one as vampire girl, It's local
Speaker 1: Canadian hire Jessica Lucas. Jessica has gone on to appear
Speaker 1: in a ton of stuff, Make the Crossover to American
Speaker 1: mainstream at times. You may know her from movies like
Speaker 1: She's the Man Cloverfield, which if you want to vomit
Speaker 1: while watching movie because all they do is shake a camera,
Speaker 1: go help yourself, and the twenty thirteen version of Evil Dead,
Speaker 1: or TV shows like Gotham, where she played Tigris aka
Speaker 1: Tabitha Gallavan. Also Joey Zimmerman. Another kid actor who appear
Speaker 1: in all four movies is Dylan Piper, while Philip Van
Speaker 1: Dijk also returns as Luke. And this movie's length, Oh
Speaker 1: oh people, Oh people, how about eighty minutes? Eighty minutes people,
Speaker 1: it takes longer to eat dinner. What a day. This
Speaker 1: has turned out to be ten below the target, which
Speaker 1: is worth the celebration. That's my fake trumpet horn sound whatever.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Halloween Town two, May you always be held
Speaker 1: at a higher regard than Halloween Town one, which is
Speaker 1: eighty four minutes. Still an impressive number, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day longer. Yes, oh my. And as
Speaker 1: far as the script, the writer for Halloween Toown one,
Speaker 1: Paul Burnbaum, is credited for characters created by but now
Speaker 1: the full credit goes to the other two writers. In
Speaker 1: the first film Ali Marie Matheson and John Cooksy. They
Speaker 1: first worked together on Rugrats, then shows like So Weird
Speaker 1: and The Collector. Both Mathieson and Cooksy had been quiet
Speaker 1: for the past almost twenty years, but burn Bomb pop
Speaker 1: back up in twenty twenty three as the writer of
Speaker 1: Maggie Moore, a movie starring Tina Fe and John Ham
Speaker 1: which was directed by John Slattery. So let's ride the
Speaker 1: line between monsters and mortals. Because someone is ready to
Speaker 1: avenge his daddy. It's Halloween Town two, Klibar's revenge.
Speaker 2: Every time you say daddy, I cannot not giggle his daddy.
Speaker 1: Hey, Daddy, I'd ride Daddy. Daddy. Daddy is coming to
Speaker 1: revenges dadda. That's just the way it is. We opened
Speaker 1: with a small recap from Marty reminding us of everything
Speaker 1: that happened in Halloween Town one. We also see sites
Speaker 1: from the very Happy Creature infested actual Halloween Town and
Speaker 1: are reintroduced to the Cromwells. Marnie's family. Her mom Gwen,
Speaker 1: her grandma Aggie, her sister Sophie, and her brother Dylan
Speaker 1: were shown moments from their past battle with the evil
Speaker 1: warlock Calibar by the way spell with the CEA in
Speaker 1: the caption, so again adding to the confusion. Also, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, the costumes again in this franchise so great,
Speaker 1: both in the first one and this one, so many
Speaker 1: different costumes of the actors probably had to sit and
Speaker 1: makeup chairs for hours. But I got to say, with
Speaker 1: the monsters that they do, it's kind of riding the
Speaker 1: line between caricaturey and spooky. Not necessarily scary, but pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yes, absolutely, but to the point
Speaker 2: where they're so good that when they're next to other
Speaker 2: people that might not have like not a great one, right,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, uh, you know that that bad
Speaker 2: background actors like.
Speaker 1: Damn yeah, Like you got their late Billy, You.
Speaker 2: Got their late Billy Bob exactly.
Speaker 1: If you got there on time, you would have been
Speaker 1: cool one eye guy. But no, you're it's always the
Speaker 1: way that it is. Next, we learn that Grandma Aggie
Speaker 1: left Halloween Town after defeating Calibar and moved in with
Speaker 1: the Cromwells in the Mortal world. And now it's Halloween
Speaker 1: night again, the only time of the year where you
Speaker 1: can travel between the two worlds freely. Marnie's at her computer,
Speaker 1: updating her life via her writing on something called Google Chat.
Speaker 1: That was a very nineties prodigy slash aol vibes. By
Speaker 1: the way, it still on aol aol rid or died.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a you think I'm kidding, I am.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a chat room where whatever the other
Speaker 1: person writes is then read to you in a scary voice.
Speaker 1: I wasn't entirely sure, but I get what they're doing
Speaker 1: with the spookiness. Her mom and grandma are fighting again,
Speaker 1: and there's a party she's avoiding currently downstairs at her house,
Speaker 1: but then she feels the presence of a scary face
Speaker 1: in her room. But before she can really let that
Speaker 1: sink in, Sophie calls her downstairs to the party. Marnie
Speaker 1: uses her powers to quickly change into a witch costume
Speaker 1: for the festivities, which honestly feels kind of a little
Speaker 1: on the nose. For the costume, I figured she could
Speaker 1: have maybe gone with something else, but they wanted her
Speaker 1: to be a witch for the rest of the movie,
Speaker 1: So I get that. Yeah, maybe something I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now we are downstairs. Marnie has joined her grandma, who
Speaker 1: is playing party host. But Marnie's mom, Gwen, is not
Speaker 1: exactly excited about the party. She sees it as just
Speaker 1: exposing the ways of Halloween Town to everyone in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: But Aggie thinks her behavior is just rejecting her own heritage,
Speaker 1: especially since Marnie is the future of the bloodline. The
Speaker 1: tension is undeniable as Grandma rushes off to her room
Speaker 1: to look into her crystal ball and see what's happening
Speaker 1: in Halloween Town. And Okay, I was a little confused here.
Speaker 1: I thought she ran in and was looking at the
Speaker 1: crystal ball and was using it as like a television TV. Yes,
Speaker 1: and she was watching a show from Halloween Town.
Speaker 2: Even when as she's talking, I thought she was talking
Speaker 2: to the cake. It seemed like her favorite soap opera. Yes.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad you thought the same thing I did.
Speaker 2: I was like, then when I realized she was at
Speaker 2: some point during her dialogue when you know the next
Speaker 2: part where the little that they come in to to
Speaker 2: her room, is like, oh, that wasn't a TV. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're actually looking got it. I didn't get that, I.
Speaker 1: Thought, who I thought the same thing. I was like,
Speaker 1: is she watching but then my first thought was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is really clever, like she's watching a soap opera
Speaker 1: from Halloween Town. Great idea, And then I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: I did, but I thought that was kind of kind
Speaker 1: of cool. Yeah, but on this crystal Ball, she sees
Speaker 1: a young girl asking for a school donation from a
Speaker 1: grumpy creature named Gort, who steals everyday items that humans lose,
Speaker 1: like socks or puzzle pieces. Sophie enters her grandma's room
Speaker 1: just in time to see Benny, the skeleton cab driver
Speaker 1: from the first movie. Sophie knows her grandmother misses all
Speaker 1: of her friends in Halloween Town and suggests visiting tonight
Speaker 1: while the portal is still open, but Aggie says going
Speaker 1: back for a few hours is even harder than not
Speaker 1: going at all. She'll go next year when Marny can
Speaker 1: become the Cromwell, head of the Witches and choose which
Speaker 1: realm she will call home. She's gonna live there for
Speaker 1: a year, But Sophie's attention is elsewhere. She feels the
Speaker 1: presence of someone coming, and it's not good. Downstairs, Marnie
Speaker 1: has caught up with her mom to clear the air.
Speaker 1: She loves her mom and is not choosing sides, but
Speaker 1: she is a witch at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Gwen explains that if you can achieve something with magic,
Speaker 1: you won't appreciate it. And if Marnie chooses to join
Speaker 1: Halloween Town as a witch, then it will become her
Speaker 1: life and she'll become a stranger on earth. And that's
Speaker 1: when a cute boy named Cal arrives. Oh it's Cal.
Speaker 1: We know. Marnie's happy about it for two reasons. First,
Speaker 1: she scrunches up her nose and says the bomb And second,
Speaker 1: I got it this guy. Go back and watch it again.
Speaker 1: She knows this dude up and downy is a piece
Speaker 1: of sausage.
Speaker 2: I know, and all I can keep thinking of as
Speaker 2: I had to pause because I went, wait, is this
Speaker 2: her husband? Now?
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: It is because I knew he was in the movie,
Speaker 2: and I wasn't sure because I watched the movie before
Speaker 2: I look through any of our stuff, so that I'm
Speaker 2: like getting a clean, you know, clear look at it.
Speaker 2: And I just remember going because I wasn't sure if
Speaker 2: he was in the first movie was at the brother
Speaker 2: I couldn't really remember it was the guy the the
Speaker 2: Warlock from Halloween Town. I couldn't really, you know, And
Speaker 2: then I'm going.
Speaker 1: Is this it?
Speaker 2: And I had to Now I have to look on Instagram.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, and I remember her saying no
Speaker 2: sparks flew when they filmed, and I'm going, now, I
Speaker 2: don't believe yet.
Speaker 1: Because you go back and just watch her. She's looking
Speaker 1: this dude up and down like he is for sakee.
Speaker 2: He's a good looking guys at an age where she
Speaker 2: is now, I mean, she is looking for a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: So I know what. Damn I mean, damn. Had this
Speaker 1: been reversed and it was a guy looking, oh looking
Speaker 1: a girl up and down, it would have been a.
Speaker 2: Double completely inappropriate.
Speaker 1: Okay, why don't we just focus on her eyes, maybe
Speaker 1: smile a little bit.
Speaker 2: But I love seeing that in these Disney Channel movies
Speaker 2: because there's just something that like, especially girls, when they
Speaker 2: get the like tangles of a cute boy around, they
Speaker 2: cannot hold themselves back. Our good friend, Christy Carlson Romano is.
Speaker 1: A shout out, Christy, I love you, Christy. I love that.
Speaker 1: But yes, she wow, she's very into this guy. Right away.
Speaker 1: He's followed in by his single dad Alex another cutie.
Speaker 1: They just moved in down the street and heard about
Speaker 1: the party. Now, yes, I get this is supposed to
Speaker 1: be a not only small town, but also there. This
Speaker 1: is part of the the the like the the plan.
Speaker 1: You know that, you get it. They want to get there,
Speaker 1: they want to bring But at first I was like,
Speaker 1: who just hears about a party and then just shows up?
Speaker 1: Shows up like we've never met. But I'm just going
Speaker 1: so it's good that it was part of a plan. Ease.
Speaker 2: At first, I was like that, I will say, if
Speaker 2: you are invited or not invited and you go to
Speaker 2: a Halloween party with not a stitch of a costume,
Speaker 2: that is just complete party etiquette that you have failed
Speaker 2: because you go to cost you've got to have something,
Speaker 2: not even if this is my Halloween T shirt.
Speaker 1: Like he was dressed as your future husband, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the role he was playing, was future husband. I
Speaker 1: like it exactly, I mean I thought the same.
Speaker 2: He looked great though, he really did like cute boiler
Speaker 2: like it was cute.
Speaker 1: Do we have one that could have been on your
Speaker 1: wall as a kid? Is this one that what might.
Speaker 2: Have done it?
Speaker 1: No? I can't freaking find anybody you know.
Speaker 2: Failed me.
Speaker 1: Anyway, everyone seems very interested in one another, and the
Speaker 1: flirting starts very quickly with both mom and daughter. It
Speaker 1: got a little creepy. Marnie ends up giving cow a
Speaker 1: house tour and finds out they just moved in tonight. Nearby,
Speaker 1: Dylan asked cool girl Sindy to the Halloween dance tonight
Speaker 1: because apparently the same night they're throwing a party, there's
Speaker 1: also a dance at school, which I found that you
Speaker 1: couldn't have couldn't have made it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But anyway, well, it seems like this party is very early.
Speaker 1: And I get it's supposed to be Halloween, so everything's
Speaker 1: supposed to be taking place on Halloween because that's when
Speaker 1: the portals are the closest, so it also to take
Speaker 1: place in the same time. But it's weird that there's
Speaker 1: a party and then a dance, like either make it
Speaker 1: the party or the dance. Yeah, it just seemed like
Speaker 1: a strange kind of Yeah, it seems like they're throwing
Speaker 1: a lot in there.
Speaker 2: Well, somebody who's invited to multiple Halloween parties. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: true to jump around.
Speaker 1: Yeah you are, Yeah, that's true. You are. You're you're
Speaker 1: the bell of the Halloween parties. I'm telling you so. Yes.
Speaker 1: Dylan asks cool girl Cindy to the Halloween dance tonight,
Speaker 1: but she's not impressed by his lack of enthusiasm about
Speaker 1: the holiday. He's not dressed up, and since most disgusting
Speaker 1: costume gets a prize at the unmasking at midnight, he
Speaker 1: is not ideal, so she rejects him and calls him gross,
Speaker 1: which seems like an overreaction, but okay, sure now stairs,
Speaker 1: Marti has brought Cal to her.
Speaker 2: Bedroom inappropriate, not okay.
Speaker 1: Pretty forward. He says her room is more conventional and
Speaker 1: ordinary looking than she is. She mentions her grandmother's room
Speaker 1: less boring and leads him to the secret space, already
Speaker 1: holding hands. This to me was very I found her
Speaker 1: extraordinarily forward.
Speaker 2: I'm already irritated with her letting these feelings go so
Speaker 2: far to you are legitimately not following the rules because
Speaker 2: her mom has already stated they She did not want
Speaker 2: people walking around her house, which is very normal for
Speaker 2: a mom at a party. No, we're keeping everyone downstairs.
Speaker 2: Number one, I don't want to get Steff destroyed. And
Speaker 2: number two, I don't want people just like roaming my house.
Speaker 2: So that's normal. Yes, you're right, and then she's instantly
Speaker 2: breaking that rule then exposing a huge part of her
Speaker 2: grandmother's like magical, very mystical looking. There's things in there
Speaker 2: that no one should be seen touching. I was already irritating.
Speaker 1: I get you, not to make it a euphemism, but
Speaker 1: you've just met this guy and already let him into
Speaker 1: your secret room. I mean, calm on, like really, but.
Speaker 2: Does she it's funny, but like it's not wrong. You
Speaker 2: need to chill out, girl, go back up, take a moment,
Speaker 2: breathe release the hand.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Learn the guy's last name before letting him
Speaker 1: into the secret chamber.
Speaker 2: That's just saying it's a good, good rule of thumb.
Speaker 1: Good rule of thumb. Thank you. Now we are inside
Speaker 1: Aggie's room, which looks like the den of a psychic
Speaker 1: potions ingredients drapes everywhere, old books, candelabras. Cal is very
Speaker 1: interested in everything he sees, and Marnie plays it off
Speaker 1: like it's just her grandmother's hobbies or halloween decorations, but
Speaker 1: he pushes more about her connection to all this, because
Speaker 1: Marnie knows a lot about witches too, does she know
Speaker 1: any magic spells? She says she knows common spells, and
Speaker 1: it's totally shoring her hand here. He knows about warlocks too,
Speaker 1: and notices a book of spells nearby. Marty becomes very
Speaker 1: defensive about it, of course, because you shouldn't be in
Speaker 1: the room anyway. He changes the subject to ice cream,
Speaker 1: but as she leaves the room first for some reason,
Speaker 1: he reaches back, uses magic to shrink the book and
Speaker 1: puts it in his pocket. Man, oh, man, me, the
Speaker 1: only thing going through my head is if you have
Speaker 1: the kind of spell where you can make things smaller?
Speaker 1: Can you? Can?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: Now? Back at the party, Cal's dad, Alex and Gwen
Speaker 1: scoop the ice cream for party goers. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: got that, and Cal is going home, and even though
Speaker 1: he's not enrolled yet, he's already heard there's a big
Speaker 1: Halloween costume party at school, which again seems like a
Speaker 1: weird thing to know about your first dan Town. He
Speaker 1: wants to go with Marnie. She accepts the invite, and
Speaker 1: he says he'll pick her up in an hour. He
Speaker 1: hands her a rose, and man, these two are moving fast,
Speaker 1: and Augie and Sophie are still looking for this terrible
Speaker 1: spirit that enters the house, but just miss cal who's
Speaker 1: now outside aggressively casting a spell at the Halloween Town
Speaker 1: bus stop. Eventually a portal appears and he walks right
Speaker 1: through it. Back inside, they're already feeling the shady after
Speaker 1: effects of their new visitors. When Aggie tries to pull
Speaker 1: some witch's hats out of her bag of tricks. Nothing's there.
Speaker 1: Magic isn't magicing, and this is the first time that's
Speaker 1: happened in centuries. So to figure out what's going on
Speaker 1: Aggie's side, she'll travel back to Halloween Town and check
Speaker 1: her house. And even though Gwen has obviously put her
Speaker 1: foot down about magic, Aggie still takes charge and invites
Speaker 1: the kids to come with her. And when she asks
Speaker 1: for permission, Gwen is too caught up with hottie Alex
Speaker 1: to cause a scene, but she still forces young Sophie
Speaker 1: to stay at home while Marnie is allowed to leave
Speaker 1: with Grandma to keep in contact with the family, though
Speaker 1: she gives Dylan headphones very cute, which are little human
Speaker 1: skull walkie talkies that can work between Halloween Town and
Speaker 1: the mortal world. But little does she know that date
Speaker 1: is with the psychopath Warlock. But once Aggie and Marnie
Speaker 1: gets to where the bus stop is supposed to be,
Speaker 1: they realize it's gone. Aggie thinks it's just a mistake,
Speaker 1: so Marnie tries to sum of the bus with a spell,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't work, forcing them to open the portal themselves.
Speaker 2: Did you remember this from the first movie?
Speaker 1: I remember that Halloween was the closest.
Speaker 2: I started going, uh, oh, we're going to go to
Speaker 2: the second movie and just start making up rules now.
Speaker 1: Ruh. I love that you're with the rules now.
Speaker 2: So I am so with the rules that I hate
Speaker 2: you a little bit for it because because it really
Speaker 2: starts to irritate me because I don't remember a portal
Speaker 2: at all. I literally remember the bus being such a
Speaker 2: huge situation that that is the only way in and
Speaker 2: out the Mortal world and Halloween Town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now it's and I didn't even think long.
Speaker 1: And Harry Potter. It like in Harry Potter, there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of ways in, but they explain every single way
Speaker 1: in you can operate. You can go through them, the
Speaker 1: Ministry of Magic, you can go through the bus, the
Speaker 1: night Bus, like they explain the different ways to get
Speaker 1: in there were this one. They were just like, well,
Speaker 1: let's open the portal, and you're like, wait, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a portal.
Speaker 2: Why would you wait for the bus stop then?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yet, I agree, no, love, what's going on? But going
Speaker 2: why would they do that? Why?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why? Why was it a production thing? Because I don't
Speaker 2: remember the bus being like some crazy expensive looking production thing.
Speaker 2: I'm like so confused. Now I'm trying to think of,
Speaker 2: like what happened at the channel that we can't have
Speaker 2: this bus.
Speaker 1: But you're right, you're one hundred percent right, because it's like,
Speaker 1: if all you have to do is open a portal
Speaker 1: and walk through and you're automatically in Halloween Town, why
Speaker 1: take the big long bus ride which meant such a
Speaker 1: big was such a big deal in the first.
Speaker 2: One, it was a huge deal and it was fun.
Speaker 2: It was part of the fun, honestly, right.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you're one hundred percent right, it doesn't doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense.
Speaker 2: I had to get past. It was going to ruin
Speaker 2: my vibe with this movie. I was really excited to
Speaker 2: watch it.
Speaker 1: I was too We are back at the party now,
Speaker 1: Alex is still awkwardly rising up Gwen, but she's eaten up,
Speaker 1: and he also asks her to this Halloween nance even
Speaker 1: though he's old and just moved into town tonight. He
Speaker 1: says they probably need more chaperones anyway, okay, and she agrees,
Speaker 1: And maybe these women have never seen an episode of
Speaker 1: Dateline before. Ye think this never ends? Well? Hello, where
Speaker 1: it doesn't end? Well? What's going on? But anyway? Then
Speaker 1: on his way out, Alex bumps into Dylan, and instead
Speaker 1: of saying goodbye, he croaks like a frog. And once
Speaker 1: the new neighbor's gone, Dylan looks down to see just
Speaker 1: one lone frog, one lonely beast. D heb all by
Speaker 1: himself without nobody, right there in the middle of the house.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you do a BC Boys reference right there. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Aggie and Marney are entering Halloween Town, but once inside,
Speaker 1: things are not what they were expecting. It's lost all
Speaker 1: its color. The large city center jack O lantern is gone,
Speaker 1: and the whole realm is basically just ash and rubble.
Speaker 1: Halloween Town has been destroyed, and the villagers are walking
Speaker 1: around like zombies, and not good zombies, but bad zombies,
Speaker 1: you know, the bad ones. Everyone's just become like normal,
Speaker 1: boring human beings talking about sensible shoes. Marni even sees Luke,
Speaker 1: who's now just a total basic human in a parka,
Speaker 1: which reminds her of the part in Halloween Town, one
Speaker 1: where Kalibar puts the spell on him. Also, everyone keeps
Speaker 1: saying whatever. Aggie recognizes that this is a spell on
Speaker 1: Halloween Town, turning the creatures not only gray but into
Speaker 1: caricatures of humans. She doesn't know who's doing this, but
Speaker 1: they know they have to reverse it. Aggie us is
Speaker 1: the headphone to call Dylan to read her spell book,
Speaker 1: but he quickly realizes it's gone. Grandma thinks someone must
Speaker 1: have been in a room. Then it hits Marnie, this
Speaker 1: is her fault, but it couldn't have been Cal, the
Speaker 1: boy she just met ten minutes prior. But Sophie says
Speaker 1: this Col could also be the evil force she felt,
Speaker 1: And so Aggie is coming back to the mortal world
Speaker 1: to have a word with this dip. And yet Marnie
Speaker 1: still sticks up for Col. She says he wouldn't steal anything.
Speaker 1: He's really sweet. Again, she's known him for ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm just like no yep, and he just appeared in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, ready for a high school dance,
Speaker 1: and she's like, it can't be him. He's cute.
Speaker 2: He's cute. He gave me a rose, right, which.
Speaker 1: Should have been your first in Well, we'll get into that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And now it's time to return to the mortal world.
Speaker 1: But the portal just won't open. They didn't try the
Speaker 1: bus again, even being in a halloween town, they didn't
Speaker 1: try the bus again. They tried the portal. This evildoer
Speaker 1: also set this trap, and that's when they hear a voice.
Speaker 1: It's Cal. In what is an unintentionally hilarious moment, his
Speaker 1: face appears on a nearby stone wall where the Jack
Speaker 1: of Lantern used to be. Cal admits he's a warlock
Speaker 1: and cast the spell from Aggie's book. Martie quickly puts
Speaker 1: two and two together because Cal gave her a rose
Speaker 1: at the party. Cal is Calibar's secret son, hell bent
Speaker 1: on crushing the Cromwells in the name of revenge. And
Speaker 1: I still thought it was I just.
Speaker 2: Did not think that it was obviously his son. I
Speaker 2: thought maybe this was like his dad or I don't
Speaker 2: know why. For some reason, it being him his son
Speaker 2: just didn't sit well with me.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna make it his son either. I would
Speaker 1: I would have made it him like he's like almost
Speaker 1: like a Harry Potter thing where he kept put his
Speaker 1: soul alive and now he comes back as a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this son was didn't.
Speaker 2: We have to go back quickly? Just to his face
Speaker 2: on the wall that he totally I was cracking up
Speaker 2: at it too, Yeah, to he had to he kept.
Speaker 2: Wasn't there something with Calibar's face that would be on
Speaker 2: different places in the first movie though I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, it makes because his face. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was towards the end or I
Speaker 2: just I remember the black swivel thing all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I felt like that was sort of a reference
Speaker 2: of what he would do when he wasn't wanting to
Speaker 2: be caught. He was just wanting to talk to whoever
Speaker 2: was there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's absolutely possible. There's
Speaker 1: also ha, that's another Harry Potter.
Speaker 2: Oh giant.
Speaker 1: It was this big, big brick face coming out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: like wait what Yeah. By the way, on his way out,
Speaker 1: cal offers Marnie a chance to join him for the
Speaker 1: big finale at midnight, but she obviously doesn't take the
Speaker 1: bait from signor bag now alone, Marnie apologizes to her grandmother,
Speaker 1: but Aggie seems optimistic that she has some tricks still try,
Speaker 1: saying that's that she has some tricks still up her,
Speaker 1: that she still has some tricks.
Speaker 2: She has some tricks still a personally.
Speaker 1: There you go, I'm gonna keep it there. She whistles
Speaker 1: for the cab and now Benny the skeleton just looks
Speaker 1: like a normal black and white taxi driver, but he's
Speaker 1: able to bring them back to Marnie's house now alongside Luke,
Speaker 1: who's there again, and once inside, she sees that all
Speaker 1: of her belongings have been turned black and white. Marty
Speaker 1: can't believe this, but Aggie drops a bombshell. There are
Speaker 1: two copies of her spell book, the second copy of
Speaker 1: somewhere in her house. So we get a weird, sped
Speaker 1: up montage of the Cromwell's feverishly looking and failing to
Speaker 1: find it. I just it almost sounded like like I
Speaker 1: was waiting for the Benny Hill theme to come on,
Speaker 1: like the Dan and that sped up stuff was kind
Speaker 1: of strange. Just when they're about ready to give up.
Speaker 1: Luke suddenly changes. He's no longer just black and white.
Speaker 1: He's become a goblin again, very orange and looks kind
Speaker 1: of like prop comedian carat Top. Something has broken the spell,
Speaker 1: but it's just temporary, they think. And also Aggie is
Speaker 1: optimistic about finding this backup spellbook. Since it's lost, she
Speaker 1: knows exactly where to go. They jump back into Benny's
Speaker 1: cab and it's off to Gortz, the evilest, smelliest, foulest
Speaker 1: collector of Halloween Town. Back at Gwen's house, Sophie and
Speaker 1: Dylan have brought the spellbook dilemma to their magic phobic mother.
Speaker 1: She is not impressed, worried, especially when they mentioned Cal
Speaker 1: and his hot dad, Alex appears just as he's mentioned,
Speaker 1: wearing a cute frog costume. He's also brought a spooky
Speaker 1: green alien mask for Gwen. Dylan volunteers to skip the dance,
Speaker 1: which I thought was very sweet and baby, said Sophie. Well,
Speaker 1: his mom goes on a date with a total stranger,
Speaker 1: especially because he got straight up rejected by every girl
Speaker 1: in school. Now, yes that's all true for Dylan, Oh, Dylan,
Speaker 1: Dylan's gonna have some tough times in high school. It
Speaker 1: gets better, Dylan, trust me. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I thought for the character, the way he played it,
Speaker 1: like he looked at his mom. He knows he has
Speaker 1: she hasn't been on a date in two years. He
Speaker 1: mentions it. He looks at the guy and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'll stay home and babysit. And I thought it was
Speaker 1: just a really sweet moment of this kid kind of like, no, mom,
Speaker 1: you need to go have a little bit of fun.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really nice.
Speaker 2: I also though, thought that that greed alien mask was
Speaker 2: actually like some kind gonna be something why, like it
Speaker 2: was a fly, And so now I'm thinking this frog
Speaker 2: is going to eat the mom at some time, Like
Speaker 2: I I was thinking he was supposed to be kind
Speaker 2: of more of a why or insect of some sort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just got that. I didn't say anything. I said.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of jokes going through my head.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I said. I'm just leaving it.
Speaker 2: How do you do this on a movie like Halloween?
Speaker 1: Down Well, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: My brain couldn't be farther from that at all. Like
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about okay, anyway, I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: Wait, now, wait, did you I have a question for you? Yes,
Speaker 1: did you have any problem with the mom constantly pooh
Speaker 1: poohing all of the magical stuff that's going on or
Speaker 1: could be happening when she's a full witch herself.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it was a huge thing in my notes.
Speaker 2: It's like, again, this mom who knows that it's possible
Speaker 2: that there is a world filled with warlocks and demons
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, is constantly being like, you guys
Speaker 2: are crazy, especially maybe prior to Halloween one, when that
Speaker 2: was not something that was exposed at all. But now
Speaker 2: that the kids all know about this and that that well,
Speaker 2: we also and now that there are other ways to
Speaker 2: get back and forth, not just a freaking bus, right,
Speaker 2: it's possible that stuff is going on. Mom, How do
Speaker 2: you not, like.
Speaker 1: You know, your mother who kind of runs the town,
Speaker 1: and you've got your daughter both telling you something's going on,
Speaker 1: and you're like, they're idiots, And it's.
Speaker 2: Like, really, younger one can feel fit, right, like, we
Speaker 2: know that our kids are having magical powers, So what
Speaker 2: how are you not investigating at all?
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. I thought that
Speaker 1: was strange to me.
Speaker 2: She drove me crazy this movie, I agree, except for
Speaker 2: I do really love her and I had the best
Speaker 2: time talking to her in our interview.
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's the coolest person ever. And then I
Speaker 1: got to meet her like three weeks later in person
Speaker 1: at a convention. She was the greatest.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: I love that the greatest. But but the characters character
Speaker 1: is I got it in the first movie because it
Speaker 1: made sense. It's like, I want to keep my daughter
Speaker 1: as far away from this as possible. I'm basically gonna
Speaker 1: pretend nothing's going on. I totally understand that. But now
Speaker 1: that you've seen what's going on, maybe some green I
Speaker 1: thought what they were going to do is, at some
Speaker 1: point you were going to realize that Cal and the
Speaker 1: Golum Dad that there is some kind of spell essentially
Speaker 1: cast on both of them.
Speaker 2: We didn't hit it, so I'm saving it for my
Speaker 2: Sabrita season. I'm going to tell you what I thought
Speaker 2: it was that did it?
Speaker 1: The Rose Nope, Okay, well we'll get there. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get there because yeah, Okay. Meanwhile, Martie, Aggie and Luke
Speaker 1: make it to Gort, who's one of my favorite words ever,
Speaker 1: just Gort and all of the junk in the front
Speaker 1: of his house has disappeared, and when he opens the door,
Speaker 1: he's cleaned up and is totally gray. He lets them
Speaker 1: into his now spotless, sterile home, but most of his
Speaker 1: books are gone. He sold them in a recent yard
Speaker 1: sale and has no idea who he sold them to.
Speaker 1: Then Luke notices the spell is coming in. Aggie's hands
Speaker 1: have also started to turn gray. She thinks Marnie is next.
Speaker 1: They rush to leave Gorts. Just love that Gort, But
Speaker 1: the door. I'm gonna keep saying it. But the doors
Speaker 1: are now locked, there's no way out, and the gray
Speaker 1: spell has disabled Aggie's powers. Then cal Cal's face appears
Speaker 1: again in the fireplace amongst the flames. He gloats about
Speaker 1: capturing them and somehow knew about the backup copy, even
Speaker 1: though it was lost before he was born. Cal wants
Speaker 1: to know if Marnie has made up her mind about
Speaker 1: joining him at the dance, which he reveals will also
Speaker 1: be attended by her mom, who's all horned up for
Speaker 1: his dad. When she says she's not going, Cal becomes
Speaker 1: visibly angry, and Aggie figures out a plan. He's going
Speaker 1: to use a band spell to seek revenge on mortals
Speaker 1: who have mocked the citizens of Halloween Town every year
Speaker 1: by dressing up on Halloween. This will turn them into
Speaker 1: the very creatures they are mocking. He turned the creatures
Speaker 1: into humans and now will turn all the humans into creatures.
Speaker 1: Back home, Sophie is reading about golums and has deduced
Speaker 1: that the frog Dylan saw at the party and the
Speaker 1: fact that Cal's dad showed up in a frog costume
Speaker 1: is some sort of a sign. Sophie wants to go
Speaker 1: to the party, and though Dylan doubts her theory, he
Speaker 1: agrees to go and reluctantly needs a costume. So Dylan
Speaker 1: listens to his little sister and goes, all right, you're right,
Speaker 1: we should go. The mom don't listen, but Dylan listens,
Speaker 1: and it's like I support you, love Yes, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's how should be family. People.
Speaker 2: Family.
Speaker 1: We are now back at Gorts. They're still trapped while
Speaker 1: Callan Aggie's powers are draining quickly. Marnie knows there must
Speaker 1: be a way to fix this, Like how hackers work
Speaker 1: with computers. She wants to get creative and wheezel out
Speaker 1: of the spell without actually breaking it, and this I
Speaker 1: found to be a bit of a convoluted plot point.
Speaker 1: Did this make sense you, Sabrina, She's looking like I
Speaker 1: kind of liked it where it's like you're looking for
Speaker 1: the back door of a spell, but it got a
Speaker 1: little wonky, like how would you figure that out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she says it multiple times that the spells
Speaker 2: are broken if you.
Speaker 1: Say them backwards. So she does mention that, but she
Speaker 1: can't remember the spell specific spell that he that was
Speaker 1: used to reverse it, right.
Speaker 2: So you know, the thing that I kind of got
Speaker 2: more so like I don't know if it was just
Speaker 2: reaching a little bit too much for me, is just there,
Speaker 2: like cows more because he says it when he sees
Speaker 2: him in the like when he sees him her again.
Speaker 2: Is the the talk back to how she had that
Speaker 2: app or the computer thing, like they keep referencing it
Speaker 2: with just like these one liners, but don't really explain why.
Speaker 1: What it does or why it's there.
Speaker 2: Why we keep bringing it up and what what you know?
Speaker 2: So that was more of a thing that I was
Speaker 2: that I felt was like convoluted as far as the
Speaker 2: plot was.
Speaker 1: This, Yeah, it was a little this got a little
Speaker 1: hanky to me. But Aggie's powers continue to dwindle. She's
Speaker 1: unable to help them with a time travel spell, so
Speaker 1: the kids do it themselves and quickly end up back
Speaker 1: in time, watching themselves in Gort's house from only five
Speaker 1: minutes earlier. Whoops. Marnie tries again, and this time she
Speaker 1: way overshoots it to the caveman days, then tries again
Speaker 1: in his back at Gourts, but Grandma and Luke are
Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. But you know who is there Cow.
Speaker 1: He's impressed with their work, but is ready to do
Speaker 1: away with Halloween Town and the Code of Merlin, and
Speaker 1: he tells Marnie that her mom is next, and with
Speaker 1: that he disappears what In response, Marnie recites another spell
Speaker 1: and is sent back in time now to when Gort's
Speaker 1: house was still filled with other people's lost items. There's
Speaker 1: junk everywhere, and Luke apparently has made the trip too.
Speaker 1: They're immediately spotted by Gort, who wants to know what
Speaker 1: they're doing in his house. Marnie tries to butter him
Speaker 1: up by showering him with disgusting compliments. He's touched, but
Speaker 1: doesn't budge in his grumpiness, but Marnie does get his
Speaker 1: attention by revealing that in the future, Kalibar's son will
Speaker 1: clean his house. This infuriates Gort and gets him to
Speaker 1: finally listen. Next thing we know, we're haphazardly flying on
Speaker 1: a broom with Sophie Dylan. She doesn't really know how
Speaker 1: to fly yet, so it's a real trial and error
Speaker 1: kind of thing and a little scary. They circle the
Speaker 1: moon like a drunk et, and then we are back
Speaker 1: at Gorts. They are intensely searching his junk for the
Speaker 1: book of Spells and stumble on a massive child size
Speaker 1: cockroach who's like his dog. And I thought he was
Speaker 1: really cute. I did. I'm sorry, but I thought he
Speaker 1: was really cute. The thing's like nodding at him. He's like,
Speaker 1: we got to do it, and he's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: want one. Luke is starting to think that maybe they
Speaker 1: traveled too far into the past too before she even
Speaker 1: lost the book, But then out of nowhere, Go remembers
Speaker 1: the book Calibar bought it from him fifty years ago,
Speaker 1: so basically, Calibar had it the whole time, and he
Speaker 1: stole Aggie's book just to make sure that Marnie couldn't
Speaker 1: undo anything. So this guy's got everyone else's playing checkers.
Speaker 1: This dude's playing chess, and now Sophie and Dylan finally
Speaker 1: made it to the school dance in one piece and
Speaker 1: everyone's defense. The party looks rocking, which is good for them.
Speaker 1: Dylan sees cool mean girl Cindy and shows off his costume,
Speaker 1: only for her to call him El Geico. But then
Speaker 1: he does find his mom, who's damning with the mystery man.
Speaker 1: So they're not chaperoning, they're just crashing a high school
Speaker 1: dance dance. Yes, I found that really strange, so weird.
Speaker 1: Make it a town dance right, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a like a town center dance, a community center.
Speaker 1: Yes, because they literally stressed the fact that it's a school.
Speaker 2: Dance and it didn't need to be going.
Speaker 1: To chaperone.
Speaker 2: The person that ends up getting on the stage at
Speaker 2: the end and looks like he's like hosting wasn't necessarily
Speaker 2: like a principle was just an adult. It could and
Speaker 2: it wasn't like anybody. Yeah, it didn't need to be
Speaker 2: a high school dance at.
Speaker 1: All, and specifically making it a high school dance and
Speaker 1: having these two adults going at each other at the
Speaker 1: high school dance was I found out?
Speaker 2: And I feel like we come across the weirdness of
Speaker 2: these dances that happen in these d coms, Like kind
Speaker 2: of often the dances that happen at d comms where
Speaker 2: there's like strain adults there and nobody thinks it's weird,
Speaker 2: Like there's always it's almost like a dance at a
Speaker 2: high school or a school is kind of tricky to
Speaker 2: maneuver around without some point of it looking or feeling
Speaker 2: weird that the people that are there are there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so maybe they should stop doing it or just do
Speaker 2: them better, just yeah, or like like like you said,
Speaker 2: like have it at a community center like there. You know,
Speaker 2: there's things like that that happen, like make it a.
Speaker 1: Town dance super easy to do. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: But anyway, maybe we just stopped doing the proms.
Speaker 1: Yes, unless it was that prom that prom movie was
Speaker 1: great then happened. We love that movie. Anyway. What you
Speaker 1: do find is she's dancing with this mystery man and
Speaker 1: you're still dressed as a frog. In case anybody forgot,
Speaker 1: they get her alone to warner about Alex. They inform
Speaker 1: her that the Golam is made of frogs and that
Speaker 1: cal is in fact Calibar, and Gwen seems furious at
Speaker 1: what they've done and still doesn't believe them. Back at Courts,
Speaker 1: Marnie and Luke almost given up. They feel defeated, but
Speaker 1: Luke encourages her to think back to when the spell
Speaker 1: went away for a little bit. How did that happen?
Speaker 1: They realize she said something like this right before the
Speaker 1: spell lesson quote, something to get us out of this
Speaker 1: trap a spell or a charm unquote. Luke writes it
Speaker 1: down and realizes that trap a is apart backwards and
Speaker 1: again I thought this was pushing a little bit. He
Speaker 1: wants her to say apart, and when she does, Gort
Speaker 1: does go gray, so he goes gray when she says
Speaker 1: the word apart. They figure out how to reverse the
Speaker 1: gray spell, because then when she says trappa, Gort returns
Speaker 1: to being dirty and messy. Now they need to get
Speaker 1: back and warn their mom before anything bad happens. Yet
Speaker 1: they can't find the time travel spell. It's officially lost
Speaker 1: in Gore's house, which is bad because he finds other
Speaker 1: lost things, but if stuff is lost in his house,
Speaker 1: it goes poof forever. Marty thinks hard, trying to remember
Speaker 1: the spell, but she can't remember what it is. Back
Speaker 1: at the dance, Alex returns from getting a drink in cookies,
Speaker 1: and Sophie has an idea. She tells him a seven
Speaker 1: xth grader is dressed like a big black fly with
Speaker 1: feelers and fuzzy legs, and then uses magic to make
Speaker 1: one appear. This infuriates Gwen, but Alex is entranced and
Speaker 1: can't hold it in. He exposes his big frog tongue
Speaker 1: and eats the fly, showing everybody that he's not in
Speaker 1: fact human. Gwen quickly uses a spell of her own
Speaker 1: to make the gollum turn back into a pile of frogs. Now,
Speaker 1: with that taken care of, they have to find Marnie.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, hey, you're starting to listen to your kids.
Speaker 1: Dylan pulls out the headphone, but it doesn't work. She's
Speaker 1: out of the dimension and won't get the message for
Speaker 1: four hundred years. And back at Gort's, she's trying spells
Speaker 1: over and over but nothing's working. Gourt suggests they use
Speaker 1: his timeline, which is a glowing light behind a door
Speaker 1: that a wizard has lost. It lets you travel through
Speaker 1: time in the immortal world, meaning it's essentially a black hole.
Speaker 1: Why didn't he suggest this earlier? Thank you, Gort and
Speaker 1: to travel through the fastest timeline. Marnie unveils a new
Speaker 1: sporty broom that Grandma gave her, which is cool. Luke
Speaker 1: Nursey hops on and off they go right into some
Speaker 1: cheap dcom math graphics and these were not great. An
Speaker 1: he's got a fake fly in a decom. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really look good. And this was kind of holding on
Speaker 1: to that. It just didn't look good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, But we cut to the party where Gwen, Dylan,
Speaker 1: and Sophie are looking for Cow to stop whatever plan
Speaker 1: he has. Gwen puts on her mask to hide her
Speaker 1: identity and blend into the crowd on the dance floor.
Speaker 1: Then we see col hiding in the rafters reading the
Speaker 1: spell book about to recite the creature spell, turning mortals
Speaker 1: into monsters forever at midnight, and then the countdown begins
Speaker 1: like it's New Year's Eve. For some reason, the party
Speaker 1: counts down from sixty sixty.
Speaker 2: That is the longest countdown of life, even at a
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve party. When someone says like okay, you know,
Speaker 2: five minutes out you're going, okay, seriously five minutes and
Speaker 2: then one minute and then you're sitting there and everyone's
Speaker 2: just kind of like two to dude. It isn't until like.
Speaker 1: Ten ten, right of maybe.
Speaker 2: Twenty, maybe twenty. You don't do a countdown as a
Speaker 2: group from sixty. That was ridonculous.
Speaker 1: Also, the countdown to midnight is just for them to
Speaker 1: get the prizes for who won most disgusting costume, right,
Speaker 1: So it seems like an awfully big build up to
Speaker 1: just find out who won the costume contest.
Speaker 2: Right, And we never know what they're they're gonna win either, right, No,
Speaker 2: just because I think Dylan asks like, oh, do they
Speaker 2: win something in the beginning and cheat the rude, very
Speaker 2: rude girl we have not really called out just yet
Speaker 2: and very good our rudes Cindy girl basically gave him
Speaker 2: some like stupid answer to that. Yeah, but we never
Speaker 2: we never really know what they're even getting. Why are
Speaker 2: they so excited? What's the prize?
Speaker 1: And why are you counting down from sixty? So yeah, Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: Marnie and Luke are still back in the bad computer graphics.
Speaker 1: They are only up to the sixteen hundreds. They're gonna
Speaker 1: miss midnight, but Martie spot's a possible shortcut and goes
Speaker 1: for it. As the party is still counting down. We're
Speaker 1: now in the mid forties. Gwen spots Col starting the spell,
Speaker 1: so in retaliation, Cal strikes her with lightning, forcing her
Speaker 1: mask to be stuck on her face, diverting her attention elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Cal continues with the spell as Marnie pushes on, hoping
Speaker 1: her shortcut works and eventually it lands them back at
Speaker 1: Courts on the clean timeline. She yells Trappa at her grandmother,
Speaker 1: releasing her from the spell and bringing back her color.
Speaker 1: It is working, and just like that, Marnie and Aggie
Speaker 1: connect her return to the mortal world and fix this
Speaker 1: one before midnight. But with just fourteen seconds left, yes
Speaker 1: they're still at fourteen, the portal actually starts to close,
Speaker 1: blocking her entrance. Three to one and the door closes shut.
Speaker 1: It is too late in the party. It's time for
Speaker 1: the great unmasking, but Cal reveals himself on stage and
Speaker 1: finishes the spell. The partygoers start transforming into full on monsters.
Speaker 1: Is more than just staying in costume. They're horrifying. Pretty
Speaker 1: great work here, I think on whoever made these again,
Speaker 1: there's some really good ones there, and again scary, but
Speaker 1: not so scary that a younger kid isn't going to sleep.
Speaker 1: It's more creepy than scary, if that makes sense. It's
Speaker 1: becoming a real horror show and this probably actually scared
Speaker 1: some kids. Cindy turns into a real vampire, looks to
Speaker 1: drink Dylan's blood. Cal is thrilled with his work at Gortz.
Speaker 1: Marnie can't believe she blew it. Aggie suggests waiting until
Speaker 1: next year, and once the portal reopens they'll be ready
Speaker 1: to fight Cal, but Marnie knows how long a year
Speaker 1: will feel. She is not giving up. She grabs the
Speaker 1: headphone from her grandmother and calls Sophie, who is battling
Speaker 1: her way through the monsters. Marnie says magic can open
Speaker 1: the portal if the three Cromwell kids band together and
Speaker 1: make their own spell, this could work. Even Luke and
Speaker 1: Aggie get involved in Just like that, they improv the
Speaker 1: same spell where I hate when people improv the same
Speaker 1: stuff at the same time, like how did you all
Speaker 1: know the words? I'm not a big It should have
Speaker 1: started with one of them, who says, here's the spell
Speaker 1: and then they all start chanting it not they all
Speaker 1: start going I just didn't like it.
Speaker 2: I just I knew you were gonna have that.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. It's like you with the second
Speaker 1: somebody starts at.
Speaker 2: The it is I know it just it's cringey.
Speaker 1: It's like he's shaking his keys. They're going to start
Speaker 1: us off, yes, so hoping that as it's of saying
Speaker 1: the spell over and over again, they can break the rules,
Speaker 1: and then they do. Cal is shocked to see the
Speaker 1: portal reopening. What is this? Is it friendship? What's making
Speaker 1: him do it? The group continues their diy spell, completely
Speaker 1: opening the doors and stopping the party in its tracks.
Speaker 1: Marty walks onto the dance floor and hugs her sister.
Speaker 1: But it's time to face the villain. Cal yells at
Speaker 1: them they can never beat him, but Marnie says, now
Speaker 1: that everyone is together, his powers are useless. She asks
Speaker 1: for the spell books back, but he swears she's the enemy.
Speaker 1: Marnie argues his dad's hate should not guide him. He
Speaker 1: answers by protecting the spellbooks with forces of evil. If
Speaker 1: she's supposed to have the books and she have to
Speaker 1: take them back on her own. He says his forces
Speaker 1: of evil will outdo her forces of good. Though daunting,
Speaker 1: Marnie announces she's not afraid of him and starts to
Speaker 1: glow and slowly reaches out. She tries, but it's quickly
Speaker 1: pushed back with electricity, but she focuses and slowly moves
Speaker 1: towards the book again and grabs them. She has successfully
Speaker 1: taken the books, and a very angry cow shoots into
Speaker 1: the ceiling and disappears. They know he'll be back, but
Speaker 1: they'll be waiting for him together. Aggie opens the book
Speaker 1: and reads the spell backwards, returning all the mortals to
Speaker 1: their regular form, and they all think it was just
Speaker 1: a dream. The party returns to its rock and status
Speaker 1: just as Marnie reunites with her mom. She sees it
Speaker 1: as a perfect opportunity to get her mom and grandma
Speaker 1: on the same page, and they do seem to be
Speaker 1: understanding each other a little bit better. Marnie and Aggie
Speaker 1: have to rush back to Halloween Town to release the
Speaker 1: gray spell, but Gwen decides she's going to stay in
Speaker 1: her world, but will allow the kids to visit whenever
Speaker 1: they want, and so they return to Dull Halloween Town
Speaker 1: and start the spell. Everything returns with color, even the
Speaker 1: cab drivers as Celton once again, the concrete walls become
Speaker 1: the jack O lantern, and once again, Halloween Town is
Speaker 1: finally back. The town celebrates, and that is our movie.
Speaker 1: Short and sweet, short and sweet, eighty minutes in bouta bing,
Speaker 1: bouta boom. Thank you everybody for doing that. Take a note,
Speaker 1: Peter Delaize, eighty minutes long. Why don't we do our
Speaker 1: real reviews? I think I've got the one star this week.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it is a review longer ones.
Speaker 1: It's longer and it is a doozy. This is from
Speaker 1: matthew S, who writes, I do this for all the
Speaker 1: people who sadly lost their lives from watching the first film. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: I've never been subjected to the torment, but the horror
Speaker 1: stories of people shaking toes, terminal herpes, and other debilitating
Speaker 1: illnesses have left scars in my mind. Only Vietnam veterans
Speaker 1: would understand. Don't ever watch this film. I imagine it's
Speaker 1: very similar to Ring, where you play the film, one
Speaker 1: of the characters crawls out of the TV and curses you,
Speaker 1: and you die horrifically in a shoe cupboard. Lest ye
Speaker 1: be warned. One star. Okay, wow, the review was longer
Speaker 1: than the movie. You got the five star this week, Sabrina,
Speaker 1: what do you got?
Speaker 2: And this five star is I don't even know what
Speaker 2: to say about kind of perfect. Our five star comes
Speaker 2: from Jessica M. I would compare this movie to Oatmeal.
Speaker 2: She must really love oatmeal. If it's a five star,
Speaker 2: get that girl a contract and you know.
Speaker 1: People, Uh, this is the time in our cast of
Speaker 1: Pod where we find Sabrina's favorite ever everthing to do,
Speaker 1: and that's to play games created by producer Jensen. Our
Speaker 1: feature this week, So Halloween Town has become synonymous with
Speaker 1: the holiday, and while it sadly doesn't exist in real life,
Speaker 1: we all wish it did, but plenty of real world
Speaker 1: cities go all in on spooky season. So in this game,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear descriptions of how different places celebrate Halloween,
Speaker 1: and our job is to match each tradition to the
Speaker 1: right city. It's multiple choice, Get three out of five
Speaker 1: right and we win. I don't think producer Jensen's with us.
Speaker 1: Today's producer Jensen was not. Yeah, so who do we
Speaker 1: have with us today. You got Mikayla. It's producer Mikayla
Speaker 1: with us today. Okay, good, pretty good lucks. By the way,
Speaker 1: for the record, we do way better at these when
Speaker 1: Producer Jensen is not.
Speaker 2: I swear he like sees how terrible I do. And
Speaker 2: then we'll go into the next one like right away,
Speaker 2: like I can't wait to stupor.
Speaker 1: Again, I think so too this one. I think I
Speaker 1: feel good about this one though. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: do well. So okay. Number one the ultimate Halloween town,
Speaker 1: famous for its quote Halloween Happenings festival made up of parades,
Speaker 1: ghost tours, and costume contests. Just don't come dressed as
Speaker 1: a witch. It might not end well. Is it a Salem,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, B Salem, Massachusetts, CE Salem, Oregon, or D Salem, California.
Speaker 2: Are there these this many Salems in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's also Salem the Cat. There's plenty of Salems. Okay,
Speaker 1: where are you going with Sabrina.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go be Salem, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: I am going b Salem, Massachusetts too, because that is
Speaker 1: the correct answer.
Speaker 2: That was too easy.
Speaker 1: That's correct, way too easy. Number two Okay, in this
Speaker 1: East Coast city. They go big with lantern tours, haunted
Speaker 1: hay rides, and cemetery of v don't lose your head
Speaker 1: over it. Is it A Danvers, Massachusetts, B Taratown, New York,
Speaker 1: C Sleepy Hollow, New York or D Noggin, North Carolina, Sabrina,
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see Sleepy Hollow, New York.
Speaker 1: Of course it's C Sleepy Hollow, New York.
Speaker 2: Yep, you're correct.
Speaker 1: These are so easy. Number three dub the Halloween Capital
Speaker 1: of the world. This city has been hosting large scale
Speaker 1: Halloween celebrations since the nineteen twenties, when it decided to
Speaker 1: encourage kids to stop pulling pranks like tipping out houses
Speaker 1: and letting cows loose downtown and focus on a community
Speaker 1: party instead. Is it A Charleston, North Carolina, B Alexandria, Virginia,
Speaker 1: see Anoka, Minnesota, or D Cowtown, Montana. What do you got, Sabrina?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: The first stump this.
Speaker 2: That I have no idea. Okay, I'm going back and
Speaker 2: forth between A and D. I guess ah, sure, pick,
Speaker 2: I'll go to Cowtown, Ontana.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's a Charleston North Carolina.
Speaker 2: Wow, you got it wrong.
Speaker 1: It's see Anoka, Minnesota. Really Wow, I didn't a Minnesota?
Speaker 1: Got it okay? Number four? We got one wrong. Number four.
Speaker 1: Combining the spooky with the supernatural in the spectacle. This
Speaker 1: city is known for a labric costumes, parades, and a
Speaker 1: haunted voodoo tour through its infamous streets. Maybe we're an
Speaker 1: easy to remove top. Is it a Palm Springs California,
Speaker 1: B New Orleans, Louisiana, see West Hollywood, California, or D
Speaker 1: New Hollywood, Arizona.
Speaker 2: What do you the Palm Springs in the West Hollywood.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: With New Orleans, it's gotta be B New Orleans.
Speaker 2: It is so spooky all year. I swear, yes, we
Speaker 2: got it correct.
Speaker 1: See so we want already here we go and now
Speaker 1: number five. It is the filming location for the movie
Speaker 1: Halloween Town. As a result, the city transforms into the
Speaker 1: spirit of Halloween, showcasing props from the movie, pumpkins and
Speaker 1: fan events. Is it a Saint Helens, Oregon, B A
Speaker 1: Story Oregon see Gresham, Oregon, or d the Nike headquarters
Speaker 1: in Oregon. I think we talked about this.
Speaker 2: We did it. I'll be disappointed. Come on, you're gonna be,
Speaker 2: You're gonna be. I think I'm gonna do be astoria.
Speaker 1: I think it's a Saint Helens.
Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth between the two of them.
Speaker 2: But a story sounds like kind of cooler.
Speaker 1: I think it's Saint Helen's.
Speaker 2: Is it? Will is correct?
Speaker 1: By the way, are you looking at the same thing?
Speaker 2: I am what?
Speaker 1: Are you looking at the same the same sheet that
Speaker 1: Jensen sent? Yes, look at what it says right underneath that, oh,
Speaker 1: in giant black letters, it says related. Can we record
Speaker 1: a podcast from Saint Helen's next Halloween. It's like he
Speaker 1: literally gave you the answer.
Speaker 2: I don't look forward. I'm sorry, that's cheating.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm reading the next line.
Speaker 2: Is Oh my gosh, that's funny.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's a great idea. We should
Speaker 1: record it podcast.
Speaker 2: We should. That would be so fun.
Speaker 1: I think we should get a member or two of
Speaker 1: the cast to go with us, and we should do
Speaker 1: a Halloween town thing from Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can tour that like where they filmed, right,
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 1: Could make that happen, that would be awesome.
Speaker 2: That would be rad.
Speaker 1: And now, can we please do a Sabrina sees.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got quite a few of them. The first
Speaker 2: is Dylan. So this is why I thought there had
Speaker 2: been a way bigger gap between the first and the
Speaker 2: second one. Our character, Dylan, the actor is so much older.
Speaker 2: No he's not, he doesn't, but I mean his height,
Speaker 2: his whole like, I mean, he went from a cute
Speaker 2: little boy to this like preteen slash teen, and I
Speaker 2: mean it was such a draft where Kimberly doesn't. She
Speaker 2: definitely looks more mature her face, but it's not. I mean,
Speaker 2: his was a drastic, drastic change.
Speaker 1: It was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: A funny little thing while she was while the mom
Speaker 2: was chopping onions, I had to like really, I got
Speaker 2: my phone out actually and like pushed in because I
Speaker 2: couldn't zoom really on my my my TV. The thing
Speaker 2: she was chopping, which was like pretty long, right, it
Speaker 2: looked like it could have been like the length of
Speaker 2: like a cucumber, but it was yellow. It was a lemon,
Speaker 2: And I don't know how. I'm like, what kind of
Speaker 2: it was? She was chopping it so much when she
Speaker 2: was pissed off about it, I couldn't believe. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what kind of lemon. Is that it's the weirdest thing
Speaker 2: because it wasn't a potato, it was lemons that she
Speaker 2: was using for It was so weird.
Speaker 1: It was, that's so funny that you mentioned that, because
Speaker 1: it's such the only thing I was thinking, Yes, she
Speaker 1: was cutting it up. Is it's such actor business. Oh yep,
Speaker 1: like you just needed what can I do with my hands?
Speaker 1: What can I Okay, well we're going to cut off.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it was like the second or third take
Speaker 2: or whatever, and she was out of the lemons, so
Speaker 2: just like threw on another one and like made I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that doesn't look like a lemon anymore. It's weird.
Speaker 2: It was an eleven? What was it that which also
Speaker 2: then made me think of that conversation and the conversation
Speaker 2: with when Call and his dad come in. They're well, no, first,
Speaker 2: that conversation with just her and Marnie R. They're talking
Speaker 2: a lot. They do this twice that are that's I
Speaker 2: felt very strange. They talk a lot about magic stuff
Speaker 2: and how it should be a secret. As everyone is
Speaker 2: going in and out of that kitchen, they're not even
Speaker 2: able to hear. They're not whispering like easily able to
Speaker 2: hear everything they're saying, and I'm going, what is happening?
Speaker 2: There was just so much commotion in that teeny kitchen
Speaker 2: of theirs that I thought was weird. I talked about
Speaker 2: how I was getting very upset with Marnie and her
Speaker 2: inappropriateness upstairs, with the handholding and just giving away Grandma's secrets. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I tapped on it a little bit. So I
Speaker 2: thought this green ice cream, this huge tubs of green
Speaker 2: ice cream that they brought, was gonna be some kind
Speaker 2: because it was obvious cal was bad, not what we
Speaker 2: would do, right, knew it was bad news. So I
Speaker 2: thought this tub of green ice cream was something. And
Speaker 2: that's why I thought when she later was going on
Speaker 2: with this this you know, no, it's nothing. You guys
Speaker 2: are crazy. Even though we come from a world of
Speaker 2: witches and warlocks, you guys are nuts children. I thought
Speaker 2: it had to do with like we were gonna find
Speaker 2: out that that ice cream again was the reason. So
Speaker 2: I thought that was like something like she had she
Speaker 2: was the only one that had ice cream, and that
Speaker 2: she was the one that was now under these like
Speaker 2: spell of not thinking, not paying attention to stuff. That's
Speaker 2: what I thought it was. Then it goes on to
Speaker 2: later on the bedtime for this poor little sister. She's like,
Speaker 2: it's your bedtime, and it's like, there's like a million
Speaker 2: other kids in this house that are my age, mom,
Speaker 2: why do I have to go to bed?
Speaker 1: That was us growing up, by the way, we were
Speaker 1: in bed when it was still light out, and we
Speaker 1: would hear the kids playing in the in the like
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's different than you hosting a party and
Speaker 2: the kids are in your house playing, messing up your toys,
Speaker 2: taking all your stuff, eating the food, eating the cause,
Speaker 2: the desserts and candy, and you have to go to bed.
Speaker 2: That was that was harsh. Okay, So then we go on.
Speaker 2: We touched on everything else except for going to you.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna definitely say something about this
Speaker 2: at We're now at the dance, the high school dance,
Speaker 2: and Sophie starts talking to Alex and trying to expose
Speaker 2: that she they think he's a frog right right, exposes him,
Speaker 2: He eats the fly. He ends up turning into a
Speaker 2: bunch of frogs. Yep, And now one person on the
Speaker 2: dance floor looks left right down nothing. I'm like, the
Speaker 2: weirdest thing, even in the house when it was just
Speaker 2: a one frog, that was so strange and no one
Speaker 2: notices it. Maybe it's because I'm like just not into.
Speaker 1: I get not noticing one frog, but not noticing a
Speaker 1: pile of.
Speaker 2: The pile of them was so weird and it was
Speaker 2: just kind of That's when I started really it like
Speaker 2: hit me. And then there was just a bunch of
Speaker 2: little small things that You're going, why doesn't anyone notice this?
Speaker 2: Why isn't anyone noticing that? I hated that she put
Speaker 2: the mask on this guy who just turned into a
Speaker 2: bunch of frogs, who's obviously we're talking. No, no, Era,
Speaker 2: You're gonna put the mask that he gave you on.
Speaker 2: He gave you this mask. You're gonna go and put Mom. Mom,
Speaker 2: We've got to talk about things that need to start happening,
Speaker 2: need be a little bit more with.
Speaker 1: That's not a very present dcom wich Mom.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. So then then the last thing she did
Speaker 2: that really frustrated me was like, okay, you guys go
Speaker 2: to the refreshment's table and I'm gonna start walking around.
Speaker 2: Why do people like to break up in times in
Speaker 2: times of like we need to be huntas we need
Speaker 2: to be together. No, you may not go to the
Speaker 2: bathroom by yourself. Stay with the group. Mom was killing me.
Speaker 1: This such a horror, you know, let's split up in
Speaker 1: the woods, Like, why, no, the six of us, let's
Speaker 1: stay together.
Speaker 2: No, we are staying together. And then the last little
Speaker 2: thing was well, the last little noticeable thing that it
Speaker 2: just had me give me little giggle. One of the
Speaker 2: like costumes was like a Kevin feederline looking costumes. I
Speaker 2: saw that just so of the era of where when
Speaker 2: this movie was filmed. It was so funny. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you literally supposed to be Kevin Federal just like
Speaker 2: the Fedora?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Whatever. And then I had a question for you, Okay,
Speaker 2: did you understand what Cal's reasons of making the creatures
Speaker 2: more human like and boring? Why was he doing that?
Speaker 2: Because I think they revolted against the dad.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to.
Speaker 2: Be I never seemed to be explained that I caught on.
Speaker 1: I get turning humans into creatures.
Speaker 2: That part I thought was awesome, but all Halloween.
Speaker 1: Destroying Halloween Town didn't make a whole lot of sense
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: I didn't either.
Speaker 2: It didn't seem and then the last one was as
Speaker 2: we were in it, it popped in my head. My
Speaker 2: other favorite movie that I watch is not necessarily really
Speaker 2: at all Halloween movie, but I watched The Craft somewhere during.
Speaker 1: Good movie time. I like the year.
Speaker 2: It's literally one of my favorite It is my favorite
Speaker 2: witch movie.
Speaker 1: Goodnighte.
Speaker 2: I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Good movie, so good.
Speaker 2: So that popped in my head, so I wrote it
Speaker 2: down real quick.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go, thank you so much. And now,
Speaker 1: of course it's our time where we have to rate
Speaker 1: our film, and I want to do something different this
Speaker 1: week because it's Halloween. I would like to make one
Speaker 1: the least and ten the most.
Speaker 2: Care all right, so spookier for sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, So here we go. Here do we want to do?
Speaker 1: One out of ten ghoul chats one out of ten,
Speaker 1: the bombs, one out of ten, hands to hold immediately,
Speaker 1: tiny books, massive child sized cockroaches, one out of ten,
Speaker 1: sensible shoes, one out of ten, backup spell books, one
Speaker 1: out at ten, gorts, el geekos, or I'm gonna add
Speaker 1: one out of ten ibang out of you. What would
Speaker 1: you like to pick? Sabrina? Which one would you like
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: Is it my turn to choose.
Speaker 1: I think it's your turn to choose.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with Gorts just because you're
Speaker 2: saying it's so much.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm going first this time. Yes, I
Speaker 1: liked this movie. Again. These movies are exactly what they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. They're Disney Channel movies. They're fun. Kimberly's great.
Speaker 1: I thought that Daniel was great, they worked well together,
Speaker 1: that all the acting was good. Some of the characters
Speaker 1: infuriate you. Some of the stuff as stupid, but it's
Speaker 1: Disney Channel, so of course it's supposed to be. And God,
Speaker 1: coming off of the last movie, everything looks magical to me.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give this a solid seven point five gorts. Wow,
Speaker 1: it could have been an eight, but I had a
Speaker 1: couple of little story problems. But I'm gonna give this
Speaker 1: a solid seven point five quarts. I like the Halloween
Speaker 1: Town movies. I really do. I think I'm one of
Speaker 1: the few, though I think I might have liked the
Speaker 1: first one better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you know what? Okay, here I'm going
Speaker 2: I did like the first one better, Yeah I don't.
Speaker 2: I honestly count one hundred percent. Put my finger exactly
Speaker 2: on what I like, Yes, I can. I think I
Speaker 2: like it because they were able to do some of
Speaker 2: the things because they were in a made up Halloween
Speaker 2: town versus like, you know, like the fact that like
Speaker 2: people are are not phased by certain things that are
Speaker 2: going on. That makes sense in Halloween Town because everything
Speaker 2: is magical and mystical and you know, things are birds
Speaker 2: are turning into this or whatever. You know, Like that
Speaker 2: makes sense. So I honestly think it served a plotline
Speaker 2: a lot easier. Even though we did spend a good
Speaker 2: amount of time in it, it wasn't what the community like.
Speaker 2: I don't know, the whole preface of going anywhere wasn't
Speaker 2: necessarily that I guess. I don't know. Anyway, I felt
Speaker 2: the same. I really did like the first one a
Speaker 2: lot better, but I did love this one, And I
Speaker 2: think this is a movie, Like I said, I'm really
Speaker 2: because I do love Halloween. I am excited for my
Speaker 2: kids to start being able to watch things when the
Speaker 2: time comes, and I love that these two movies that
Speaker 2: we've seen, I think says a little bit of that
Speaker 2: scary point. But it's really not enough to like have
Speaker 2: them stay up late at night because or wake them
Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night. So I'm excited
Speaker 2: and love these two movies a lot for that reason
Speaker 2: for my kids. So I'm excited about that. But I
Speaker 2: did love the first one a lot more. But I'm
Speaker 2: still thinking this one was great. And again, there were
Speaker 2: a couple things that were funny and didn't make a
Speaker 2: lot of sense. I didn't feel like I really understood
Speaker 2: one hundred percent why everything was the way it was.
Speaker 2: The rules were a little murky. So that's gonna knock
Speaker 2: a point a couple points down for me, and I'm
Speaker 2: actually gonna match your seven point five gorts. Okay, this
Speaker 2: movie I loved. I mean, I think that's a good
Speaker 2: one because I definitely think it leaves room for the
Speaker 2: first one to have a higher score.
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. So thank you everybody so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Our next movie is again It's
Speaker 1: a little spooky. It's two thousand's mystery thriller, a movie
Speaker 1: whose title we've been teasing for a while, Phantom of
Speaker 1: the Megaplex. We're excited for this one. It is on
Speaker 1: Dizzy Plus, So go ahead and watch it if you
Speaker 1: want to watch it before we talk, because you really
Speaker 1: should because it's super helpful if you do that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, we're not leaving Halloween Town just yet, because,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned, we are talking to Daniel Koots aka
Speaker 1: Cow with either a K or a C. We'll find
Speaker 1: out he had tons of memories from the set and
Speaker 1: what it was like to be part of the Halloween
Speaker 1: Town franchise. Then fine, love in its legacy, here's a
Speaker 1: little piece of it. You know, everybody has these amazing
Speaker 1: stories about what it was like to work with Debbie Reynolds.
Speaker 1: Oh and just the legend that is Debbie Reynolds. What
Speaker 1: was it like just being on set with her?
Speaker 3: It was phenomenal because, as you know, she was a
Speaker 3: huge movie star, like from the Golden Age of cinema,
Speaker 3: and she didn't act like it at all. She just
Speaker 3: like cracked jokes and walked around and sang and was
Speaker 3: just such a lovely human being. And she was so
Speaker 3: kind to me, which I took to heart because I
Speaker 3: came in in the second movie where they had all
Speaker 3: worked together before.
Speaker 1: They were like family and everything.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew each other, and then I show up and
Speaker 3: they were just all so welcoming, especially Debbie.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of fun talking with Daniel and
Speaker 1: you can have fun too, so listen to the entire
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