1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. We're continuing our dive into heist. 4 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: We're still going through our hist phase. This is part 5 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: two of an infamous prison break. Uh, and we cannot 6 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: wait to get to the rest of the story with you. 7 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: That's Max Williams, our one only super producer. I'm Ben 8 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: noel Man this one. I'm into it. It's so cinematic. 9 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh boys, what ever? Um, And we're actually getting into 10 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: some of the most cinematic parts of the story in 11 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: today's episode. So we don't know, we don't need to 12 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: preamble this and the amount, let's get right to it. 13 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: They start to gather funds together, like like cash money 14 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: to put together the resources they need to pull off 15 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: this rescue. Yes, yeah, they do, and they get thousands 16 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: of dollars together pretty quickly. Uh. And then they also 17 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: they start to make their plans. So what they're gonna 18 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: do is they're going to charter a boat they're gonna 19 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: sail down to Australia and then they're gonna arm themselves. 20 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: And about a dozen of them are gonna go spring 21 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: the Finians from the joint. That was the original plan, 22 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, come in there with shock 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: and awe, the roar of thunder and firearms. But as 24 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: they thought about it, more and more the voices maybe 25 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe it's smarter if we use a little stealth. So 26 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: maybe we make this less of an assault and more 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: of a way for it high east. Yeah, much more 28 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: of an ocean's eleven than a suicide squad situation. There 29 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: it is. That's a good comparison. So so what do 30 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: you need in the heist? You need your specialist picture. 31 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: The montage moment, Uh, Devoy is walking around clooney brad 32 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: Pitt style and he's he's picking up his people. Uh. 33 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: He finds a guy named George Smith Anthony not a Catholic, 34 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: a Protestant sea captain who has been in the whaling game. 35 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: And he convinces this guy, He's like, look past the politics, 36 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: past the you know details here, George, this rescue mission 37 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: is a mission of universal freedom and liberty. And much 38 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: like our boy O'Reilly you know, found help from a 39 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: a kindly whaling captain. Um, the same thing was true here. 40 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: This is not the same whaling captain. This is an 41 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: area that would have seen a lot of traffic from 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: whaling vessels due to, you know, the high density of 43 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: wales in this part of the ocean. Um. But I 44 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: guess whaling captains are by nature sort of like down 45 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: for criminality. Down down, yeah, down down to down to 46 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: help out some convicts. And I don't know, maybe it's 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: just a local the whaler's code. I don't know. No, 48 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to my head, ohalien captains, the original Juggalos. 49 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: But that's maybe not accurate. But it's a fun picture anyhow. 50 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: You're right, you're absolutely right. Now. So this captain's on board. 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: George is on board, and he gets the instructions from 52 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: the gang. They say, look, you're gonna go out to 53 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: see on this whaler, the Catalpa C A T A 54 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: l P A, And you're gonna you're gonna act as 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: though you are on just a routine whaling voyage. Nothing 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: abnormal about this. Uh, you're not gonna tell your crew 57 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: what's really going on. You are not to tell them 58 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: this is a rescue mission. Because Devoid thinks back on 59 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: the rebellion, you know, and he says, okay, you gotta 60 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: watch out for snitches, basically, so he doesn't want anybody 61 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: in the crew spilling the beans or dropping the ambergriss 62 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: on these folks. So he says, you're gonna keep it secret, 63 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: keep it safe, and you're gonna need to return with 64 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: a full load of whale oil to recoup all these expenses. 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: The mission is already getting crazy expensive, by the way, Yeah, 66 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: it really is. I believe we are nearing the twenty 67 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollar mark. Shall we boop that new listeners? The 68 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: boop implies, um, we're running it through the handy dandy 69 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: inflation calculator. Twenty thousand dollars in eighteen late eighteen hundreds time, 70 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: by today's standards, would have been three hundred forty four 71 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Holy cow, that's a lot. That's a lot. 72 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: And this is that's just a rough estimate. It's actually 73 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: a little over that. But the interesting thing about this 74 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: is when you get the sense of it, when you 75 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: get a sense of how much that is in today's money, Uh, 76 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: you can see why one guy had even mortgaged his 77 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: house to get these dudes out of that Australian prison. 78 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: This enormous expense chartering a whaling vessel enacting this conspiracy. 79 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: It's still had some pieces missing because Devoie had to 80 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: ask himself, well, what are we gonna do when we 81 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: actually get on the ground in Australia. How we We've 82 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: got to get some help there, that's right. So they 83 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: employed the help of Mr John James Breslin, who was 84 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: a bearded fellow and Finnian agent. His whole job in 85 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: this prison break was to get to Fremantle ahead of 86 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: the whaling ship the Katapa, and pretend to be an 87 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: American millionaire named James Collins. He had to keep the 88 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: James in there for whatever reason. You know, sometimes having 89 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: like improv shows, like people will use their same first 90 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: name for their characters just makes it easier. Um, I 91 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe that was maybe that was the logic 92 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: behind it. But James Collins is the student that he's using, 93 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: and he was meant to see what he could see 94 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: do a little bit of recon right, yeah, yeah, So 95 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: in in our high screw, right this, in our high screw, 96 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: our whaler George is kind of our getaway driver. He's 97 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: our transporter, you know, Jason Statham style and Breslin here, 98 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: excuse me, James Collins millionaire. He is what we call 99 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: the face, right. He like he's the one who would 100 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: be kind of somewhere between an inside man and a 101 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: con artist. Breslin's scheme, his ruse is successful, and he 102 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: sees fremantle prison. Uh, and it's not looking easy because 103 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: if he if he looks over to the eastern view, 104 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: there's anohing but desert stretching out to the horizon. And 105 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: if he looks to the west, there's water are a 106 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: lot of sharks. And then he noticed that there might 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: be an advantage in this inhospitable terrain because the security 108 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: at the at the prison wasn't super tight. They weren't 109 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: super on the ball because frankly, their thought was probably 110 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: something like where these guys gonna run, you know, death 111 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: by dehydration, death by shark. The prison might be the 112 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: safest place, but death by whale becose guys suckers swallow 113 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: hole could be like a Pinocchio type situation. Whales are big, right, 114 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: there's that if they could make it past the sharks. Right, 115 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: So this guy does this thing where he's like James Collins, 116 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: American millionaire, I'm interested in making some investments. I'm looking 117 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: for investment opportunities. I would love to visit your prison. 118 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: And then his stick here is that he is James 119 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: Collins is trying to save a couple of bucks by 120 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: hiring out cheap prison labor, by renting the prisoners to 121 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: do work for him. Yeah, and he even managed to 122 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: get a note to the Fenians uh that the rescue 123 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: was happening, everything was going as planned, and to just 124 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: post up and hold tight and that help was on 125 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: the way. And so yeah, you're right. Then he established 126 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: this kind of relationship with the prison brass under the 127 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: false pretenses of hiring prison laborers to do some cheap 128 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: work for him. And whatever his investments and his interest, 129 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, make him Southern. Yeah, let's do 130 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: that him and abroad. It's definitely stunning, no question about it. 131 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: But part of that message also was, Hey, we want 132 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're not locked up or we 133 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: can't get to you when the rescue does, you know, 134 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: pop off, So be on your best behavior, don't get 135 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: into trouble, and try not to get thrown into solitary 136 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: because if you're there, we can't help you. We got 137 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: one shot, guys, we got one shot. Everybody beyond your 138 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: pieas and cues. This is like that poem just before Christmas, 139 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: be as good as you can be, because it's also 140 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: like that poem by Eminem Lose Yourself. Yes, very much 141 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: like the from the Great American poem in Him. They 142 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: have to do this for a while because the Catalpa 143 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: takes nine months to make it out to Bunbury. This 144 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Captain George Anthony, he's not having a great time on 145 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the trip. There's bad weather, the navigation equipment is all 146 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: kinds of food bar. They stopping the as Wars to restock, 147 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: and then boom, six of the crew members ghost. They 148 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: totally desert and so he's stuck at the as Wars 149 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: until he can find replacements for the crew. And then 150 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: he also has to you know, maintain this cover of 151 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: being an actual whaling vessel. The problem is that the 152 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: water he's traversing has been kind of fished out, it's 153 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: been kind of depleted. They're not going to make much 154 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: money back from this trip, and yeah, that's the very 155 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: least of their worries, but they still want that scheme 156 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: that roused to appear solid incredible. Anyway, Breslyn meets up 157 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: with Captain Anthony. They make a plan. They say, Okay, 158 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: these Fenians before James Collins and do like him Southern. 159 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Before Collins, these Fenians had been doing a bunch of 160 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: different jobs, right, we mentioned quarrying, We also mentioned building roads, 161 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: that kind of hard outdoor labor. But they're not always 162 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. And so to make this work, 163 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Breslyn would need all six of the Finians outside of 164 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: the walls of what they did. By the way, call 165 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: this the establishment at the time, and he knew that 166 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: anybody was stuck inside when they shot, their shot would 167 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: be left behind the snow way around it. So another 168 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: plot twist happens because heistro alway about the unforeseen plot twist, right, 169 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,239 Speaker 1: these two Irish guys turn up. They're in Fremantle, and Breslyn, 170 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: being a suspicious sort, says, I think these guys might 171 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: be spies. But then he learns that they had. They 172 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: had come on the scene because someone had written a 173 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: letter to them asking for help, and so they agreed 174 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: that on the day of the escape, these two dudes 175 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: who just showed up, by the way, we're gonna cut 176 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: the telegraph line from Fremantle to Perth. So they would 177 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: they would remove the ability to communicate and request reinforcements. 178 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: Fast forward April eighteen seventy six, Breslyn gets a message 179 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: to the Finians. He says, look, we got money, we 180 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: got firearms, we got clothing. You guys make a run 181 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: for the Catalpa, the ship tomorrow morning. Let no man's 182 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: heart fail him. It's really good at these lines. Dude 183 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: come tearing up a little bit, like these guys have. 184 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: I would listen to him. Order a sandwich a million 185 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: per because you know they're gonna say and super awesome, thick, 186 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: sexy Irish accents, no question. Oh you're feeling it with us, 187 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: aren't you, Max, I think we're all. I have a 188 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: bit of a crush on people with Irish accents, just 189 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: putting that out there, and it's a it's a lovely, 190 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: lovely accent, much preferred to those guttural scots. Just kidding 191 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: you to your guttural scots. But it's a very similar 192 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: set up, but arranged right from what O'Reilly experienced when 193 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: he escaped. But Anthony had ordered the ship that they 194 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: had retained to wait uh several miles out at sea, 195 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: beyond Australian borders, outside of Australian waters um and that 196 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: he would get a rowboat to wait twenty miles up 197 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: the coast from the prison. Breslyn was then meant to 198 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: deliver the Finnians to that location where they would get 199 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: onto the robot and be rowed back to the ship. Yeah, 200 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Monday morning day arrives sixteen. Those two new guys in 201 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the crew. Uh, they did successfully severed the telegraph wire. 202 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: Breslet does get horses, wagons and guns to the rendezvous point. 203 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: He waits or to a rendezvous point that's nearer to 204 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: the prison, and he's just hoping against hope that these 205 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: guys make it out. So let's meet our escaping inmates. 206 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: Thomas Derog is out digging potatoes. Nobody's watching them. Where 207 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: is it gonna go? Thomas Hassett and Robert Cranston managed 208 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: to talk their way out of the walls. Get some 209 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: such guy named Martin Hogan is painting a house for 210 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: the superintendent. These two other guys, James Wilson and Michael Harrington. 211 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: And that's the James Wilson you remember from earlier. This 212 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: voice from the tum guy. They said, look, we're supposed 213 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: to do a job at the Warden's house. So all 214 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: these guys are outside. This is so weird. This is 215 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: um kind of petty, but this is an important part 216 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: of the film we're building because Noel Breslan sees these 217 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: six dudes heading towards them. And there's an interesting historical note, 218 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: it could have been seven. It was a guy named 219 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: James Jeffrey Roche was supposed to be going with them, 220 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: but he had been cut out of the deal right 221 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: for some treacherous deeds where he basically tried to dime 222 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: out his cohorts in exchange for a lighter sentence. So 223 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: he was a cooperator as well, but for the British 224 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: and this was definitely unknown now, so he was ejected 225 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: from the plan. Again't surprise they didn't take more heavy 226 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: handed measures with a guy like that. Yeah, yeah, And okay, 227 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: So they're on the lamb, they're escaping, done and they've 228 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: been gone less for less than an hour when some 229 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: of the guards say, hey, what what happened to the 230 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: Irish guys? But they make it to the shore and 231 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: when they get to the shore, Anthony, Captain Anthony's crew 232 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: is waiting with the boat. But the Katalpa again, like 233 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: you said, is way out at sea. We're talking hours 234 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: of rowing just to reach the actual ship. So they 235 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: get about half a mile from the shore and then 236 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Breslan sees police mounted police arriving and they've got trackers 237 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: with them. That's right. They weren't expecting to be chased. 238 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: This would be a nice leisurely rowing. I'm sure they 239 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: would have done at a brisk pace. Still, Uh, you know, 240 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: being pursued for your life, certainly you're gonna row for 241 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: your life. So adding insults and injury, we now have 242 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: a Coastguard vessel and a steamer that was commanded by 243 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: the Royal Navy. Um, they've all been deployed to catch 244 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: the robots. So it became this like you know, medium 245 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: speed chase on the water. I mean man versus a machine. Right, 246 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: they had a steamer. Those are pretty those are I 247 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: don't know what I mean. I guess it's all about steamships. 248 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Weren't like super super fast, Um, and asked the robot. 249 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: But they had the they had a head start, I suppose. 250 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: So the men were just rowing for their actual lives 251 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: while being pursued by authorities from the Coast Guard and 252 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: the British who are armed with carbine rifles. So Breslan, 253 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: who we know is excellent at rallying the troops, pulls 254 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: out a copy of a letter that he had just 255 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: mailed to the British Governor of Western Australia. Uh and 256 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: in and in like total Breslan style, We're gonna do 257 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: a little reading here too. This is to certify that 258 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I have this day released from the clemency of her 259 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: most Gracious Majesty Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, etcetera, etcetera, 260 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: six irishmen condemned to imprisonment for life by the enlightened 261 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: and magnanimous government of Great Britain. Uh in real stargasm here, 262 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: I love it for having been guilty of the atrocious 263 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and unpardonable crimes known to the unenlightened portion of mankind 264 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: as love of country and hatred of tyranny. People are 265 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: firing at them, by the way, put no question about it. 266 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: Pew pew, like bullets bouncing off the water, like cutting 267 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, little h ripples through the water right around them. 268 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: This is stuff of a cinema. Love of country and 269 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: hatred of tyranny. For this act of Irish assurance, my 270 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: birth and blood being my full and sufficient warrant, allow 271 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: me to add that in taking my leave. Now I've 272 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: only to say a few cells I've emptied. I have 273 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: the honor and pleasure to bid you good day, sir, 274 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: from all future acquaintances. Excuse me, I pray in the 275 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: service of my country. John J. Bresling, I thought he 276 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: was an American millionaire, says somebody psych The Findians love this, 277 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: you know. They're being tossed in the ocean and rowing 278 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: their their keysters off. They let out a cry, rallying cry, 279 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: and they keep going for the Catalpa, And now they're 280 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: getting closer. They can see it in the distance. But 281 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that steamer, which by the way, is named the Georgett, 282 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: is on their high knees. Since we're a family show 283 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: and the end is rising, they know us. Storms on 284 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: the way, darkness falls, waves are crashing. It's the boat 285 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: is overloaded, by the way. It's a it's a rowboat. 286 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: It's got a lot of people on it, and it 287 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: was getting blown out. To see. Captain Anthony is literally 288 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: standing tall. He's telling everybody, bail, bail all the water 289 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: you can. And he even he privately, we learned later, 290 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: is thinking I don't think we're gonna make it. I 291 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: don't think so. So it does not look good, does 292 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: not look good. And just credit what credit is due. 293 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: Always this account and this kind of sequence of events 294 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: beautifully uh dramatized in that Smithsonian article that we mentioned, 295 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: and we're kind of following their lead on this one, 296 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: but we then have, uh, what what you're talking about? 297 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: The wind kind of rising man, that's uh, that's that's 298 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: some good foreshadowing. Ah, yeah, here's what. Here's what happens. 299 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: So they're rowing through the nights, they don't drown, and 300 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: when morning comes, that steamer is kind of ignoring the 301 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: rowboat and they say, we're going straight for the Catalpa 302 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: because we know where these guys are headed. They're not 303 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: making it. Two freedom in this rowboat. So the captain 304 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: of the steamer, the georgeet and goes to a guy 305 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: named Sam Smith who is running the Catalpa while Anthony 306 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: is doing the rescue mission. And the captain of the 307 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: steamer says, hey, can I come aboard? And the guy 308 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: who's in charge of the Katalpa says not by a 309 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: damn site. And because of this, the steamer is already 310 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: low on fuel and they have to go return to 311 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: shore to re up. And that's what Captain Anthony and 312 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: his finny and pals make a mad dash for the Catalpa, 313 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: and a cutter starts racinging British cutter. They barely get 314 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: to the Catalpa like right before the British, and then 315 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: the whaling ship takes off Captain Anthony's back at the helm, 316 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: he turns it away from Australia and that's when their 317 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: luck ran out. Yeah, yeah, nothing last forever um. They 318 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: had a good run, aided by that magical, seemingly magical wind, 319 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: and the Katalpa, being you know, a sailing ship relying 320 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: on the wind, was no longer able to to move. 321 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: It didn't have anything to fill it sails and push 322 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: it forward. So by morning time, the Georgiette, which was 323 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: that steamer that was loaded down with a cannon by 324 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: the way, pulled up right alongside the Katalpa, and the 325 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: Fenians have truly believed their collective goose was cooked. The 326 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: British began to board and the Fenians uh prepared for 327 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: their what they believed was going to be their last stand. 328 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: And this is where Captain Anthony gets his time to shine. 329 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: This is where he makes his speech and he we 330 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: won't give you the whole thing, but he tells these 331 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: newly rescued Finians, look, the choice is yours. You can 332 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: die here or you can die back in that prison. 333 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: We're out guns, were outmanned, out numbered, out planned, etcetera. 334 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: And the crew, remember they didn't understand the real mission 335 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: when they set off originally, but they are going to 336 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: stand with these Finians. And they're grabbing everything they can 337 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: to fight, and they're grabbing harpoons like they would use 338 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: in their whaling missions. The Georgette fires awarding shot across 339 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: the Katapa's bow and they say he too. And then 340 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: Anthony says what for? And they're like, you have escaped 341 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: prisoners aboard dot ship? Um, this is what for? Like 342 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I'll give you what for? Or is this what for? Like? Why? Why? Okay, 343 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: it's a y situation, gus um. So he says prisoners. 344 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: What does Anthony say? Anthony says, you were towards to 345 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: this notion that they have escaped prisoners. Uh, you're mistaken. 346 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: You have made a grievous error and judgment. There are 347 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: no prisoners aboard this ship. They are all free men, 348 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: again referring back to that letter, because in their minds 349 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: they were being held unjustly for the you know, egregious 350 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: send quote unquote of love of country, right of resisting 351 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: tyranny from their perspective, So the British say, all right, 352 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: you got fifteen minutes to pump your brakes. We're gonna 353 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: blow up your mast. And the Katapa is also very close, 354 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, now it's been calmed and it it doesn't 355 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: have any wind to propel it. It's very close to 356 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: floating back, drifting back into Australian waters. And so Anthony 357 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: points to the stars and stripes on the ship and 358 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: he says, this ship is sailing under the American flag 359 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: and she is on the high seas. If you fire 360 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: on me, I warn you that you are firing on 361 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: the American flag, which is quick thinking because they're in 362 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: international waters, right, this is a British ship. It would 363 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: be firing on a U. S ship. And he is 364 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: he's saying like the late nineteenth century equivalent of you 365 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: want smoke, Yeah, I mean, it would be an active 366 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: war essentially, or you know, create a serious international incident. Um, 367 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: it would have been a problem. But just as he's 368 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: making this incredible speech and and and pulling this really 369 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: bold power move with the British. The wind comes back 370 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: and the sails are hoisted and they're able to high 371 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: tail it out of there with the Georgette still you know, following, 372 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: but only for about an hour. And they've clearly been 373 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: shaken a little bit by what they were told. The idea, 374 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: this is an American ship and any firing on it 375 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: would be an active aggression against the High States of America. 376 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: So they didn't fire on the American ship because again 377 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: they were in international waters. It was just the two 378 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: sides words against each other, you know. The cap the 379 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: commander of the ship said nope, these are not escaped convicts. 380 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: This is my crew and they are freemen. So it 381 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: was very, very tricky. It became a political situation here, 382 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: and the British commander finally decided, you know what, screw this, 383 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: let's head back. And at this point the Fenians were 384 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, actually free man. Fade out 385 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: on the peaceful seas, uh and yeah, there you go, 386 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: there you go, and then we open like fade in. 387 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Four months later, the Katalpa makes it to New York, 388 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: thousands of people are waiting to meet these six men. 389 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Thousands of people are cheering, and there's a Fenian procession 390 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: up Broadway. John Devoy, John Breslin, and George Anthony are 391 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: hailed as straight up heroes. News of this prison break 392 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: spreads across the planet. A lot of people find this 393 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: to be like an heroic move, but not the British. Surprise, 394 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: they say, the US government is associating with terrorists or 395 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: their their specific words, where the U. S Government is 396 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: fermenting terrorists and he said like a fine kim chi, yes, 397 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: and the and the They say additionally, they're like, look 398 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: that Captain Anthony and his crew. They might be laughing 399 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. Everybody's having a bit of a 400 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: go at. How do I see? But they said this 401 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: is a little nerdy, even though that's a good point. 402 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: They said, they're laughing at our scrupulous obedience to international law. 403 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: That's what's happening here, which is like, yeah, no, I 404 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: hate to say it. Yes, So eventually, you know, they 405 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: changed this story a little bit later and they say, 406 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: actually this is good for us because those guys were 407 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: an expensive nuisance, uh, and the United States can have 408 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: any number of here we go disloyal turbulent plotting conspirators. Again, 409 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: They're like, we don't want you can have them in, 410 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: take them. We gave them to you. That's what happened. 411 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: Kind of like a bad live of insults right there. 412 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: It really is it, really and truly turbulent? Yes, uh 413 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: so what is that? Sorry? Turbulent disloyal plot in conspiracies. 414 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh to all their silly machinations too. I love to 415 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: add that as a kicker, um, but hitherto fourth, I'm 416 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: just gonna keep with the silliness. Uh. This group of 417 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: men were referred to as the Fremantle Six, and they 418 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: were definitely still carrying around what would today probably be 419 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: considered PTSD from their time um when they were incarcerated 420 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: in Freemantle Prison, And even though they'd made their getaway, 421 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: they were essentially, according to Devoi in many of his writings, 422 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: broken men. Yeah yeah, I mean they've been through uh 423 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: horrific things, you know. And Devoid had known these guys 424 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: as soldiers, so he wasn't ready for the permanent changes, 425 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: the psychological and physical damage that had been racked upon 426 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: them over a decade's worth of time in the prison. System, 427 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: but he did see more silver lining. The men were 428 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: free and the rescue was a shot in the arm 429 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: for Irish morale across the globe, and it brought this 430 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: new wave in the fight for Irish independence. And ultimately 431 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: you could say that the Fremantle six and the katal 432 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: Per Rescue played a role in the independence of the country. 433 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: Ireland became independent in nineteen twenty two, and Devoy was 434 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: alive long enough to see it. Oh, it makes me happy. 435 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: It's about as happy an ending as you can get 436 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: from a story like this. It's very It really reminds 437 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: me of like, you know, the Shushank redemption, you know, 438 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: like kind of like an Andy Duffrain, kind of putting 439 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: one over on the on the batties that tormented him 440 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: the whole time, and the ending up with the upper hand. Yep, exactly, Mexico. 441 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: That was. That's a great story too, and there's there 442 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: there are more details here. But we thought this was 443 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: such a breathtaking heist, and it's got an international conspiracy, 444 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: it's got geopolitics, it's got some chase scenes. This is great. 445 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: This is a film that Noel Max and I would 446 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: make if it were not already a film, The Katala 447 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: Rescue came out in two thousand seven, So so when 448 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: beat us to the punch just a little bit? Alright, 449 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: who's in it? Man? I've never heard of this film? 450 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: Was it a was it a small picture? Let's see 451 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: it's directed by Lisa Sabini Harney who also wrote it. Uh. 452 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't have too much information. I'm gonna have to 453 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: check it out and watch it. I think, Yeah, I'm 454 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 1: looking at the cast and it's not anybody that I recognize. 455 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: It may well have been finance uh in in Ireland. 456 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: A lot of these uh cast members seem to be 457 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: of Irish descent. But do you have the full cast 458 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: of characters along with the narrator? And you know they 459 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: always talk about you know, your heroics will be honored 460 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: in song, and that is absolutely not only in in film, 461 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: but in the song. So let's hear a little bit 462 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: of this. Uh. This Irish folk song of the katal 463 00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: put A ship fund command was called the katar Hop 464 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: but they say she came up to Western and Australia 465 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: and took six pole fenions away. All right, Max, you 466 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: said it had some uh had some vibes, right. I 467 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: like its commendation of like you know, traditional Irish Irish music, 468 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: but it's a lot of sea shanty in it too, 469 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: which is really cool to me and I STI love 470 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: the cadence of these types of songs that you need 471 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: to see it right on the page. It's like a 472 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: noble whale ship and command called the Catalpa. They say, 473 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: it's like this format for this Irish folk songs. I've 474 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: been watching a lot of the Wire and you get 475 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those. The cops are doing their funerals 476 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: in the in the Irish bar where they all hang out. 477 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: But man, what a tale. I can't wait to watch 478 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: the film. I hope it's good. I can't wait either. 479 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gonna be wonderful. And 480 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: we hope that you enjoyed. Uh this two part episode, 481 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: that's right, our higst Face ended up being a four 482 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: episode thing. Will return to heist again in the future. 483 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: We would like to hear, as we said earlier, some 484 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: of your favorite heist stories. We would like to know 485 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: also for Australians in the in the crowd ridiculous historians 486 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: living in Australia. Uh, do people talk about the Catalpa escape? 487 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: Often is it something that everyone is aware of. You know, 488 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: as we said, we haven't been to Australia yet. We 489 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: very much would like to go in the future. Would 490 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: be cool to go do some live shows there or 491 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: just the visit. Let us know what you think. And 492 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: while you're thinking about that, let's give some well deserved 493 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: thank yous, Oh my gosh, thank you super producer Max Williams, 494 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: Alex Williams who composed our theme researcher Extraordinariy Gabe and 495 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Lucier because it rhymes with extraordinary. Jonathan Strickland, the one 496 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: and only quister. We missed you, Bud. We'll we'll have 497 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: you on the show as soon as we can. We 498 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: can get in his schedule. He is a very busy guy, 499 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, all the acts of supervility, right, Just eat 500 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: up the calendar. Christopher Hastiota is here in spirit eaves 501 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: Jeff Code out in the world on adventures you bam. 502 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: This voyage has been an honor to to to to 503 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: to to take with you, my friend. Oh likewise, back 504 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: at yougal, We'll see you next time, folks. For more 505 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio 506 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.