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Speaker 1: they don't get credit for it because you know, it's

440
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Speaker 1: not major it's not like Ohio State, it's not Oregon,

441
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Speaker 1: it's not USC but the fan bases are really knowledgeable,

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Speaker 1: they travel well. The venues are surprisingly hostile, even though

443
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Speaker 1: capacity for capacity. They don't go shot for shot with

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten or the SEC.

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Speaker 2: But they're great coaches out there too.

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Speaker 1: Look up and down the coaching roster in the Big

447
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Speaker 1: Twelve right now, and some of those guys have had

448
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Speaker 1: opportunities to leave that conference. I'm talking multiples, and they've

449
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Speaker 1: stuck around.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long we maintain that there, but

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Speaker 1: I also think there's a better than equal shot that

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Speaker 1: we do because I think a lot of head coaches

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Speaker 1: have stayed at their respective outpost in the Big Twelve

455
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Speaker 1: for a reason. They've stayed there because a lot of

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about does exist there. As the head

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Speaker 1: coaching job goes, it's a lot more football. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot more college football, the spirit of than maybe is

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Speaker 1: reflected in the head coaching job and role of head

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Speaker 1: coach at other places. So I don't know you like

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Speaker 1: what you like, but as a fan, just as a

462
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Speaker 1: pure fan, I can't wait to watch the Big Twelve

463
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Speaker 1: this fall to come to as long as the sport

464
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Speaker 1: doesn't turn itself on its ear like it has been known.

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Speaker 2: To do lately.

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Speaker 1: One more thing that I wanted to hit on before

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Speaker 1: we welcome in Shane Biemer to the show. And you're

468
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Speaker 1: gonna notice, even though I say welcome in, it's strangely

469
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Speaker 1: going to be daylight when we talk to him, even

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Speaker 1: though behind me right now it is not so much.

471
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Speaker 1: We get in and we record those things earlier in

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Speaker 1: the day so that Bradley, the associate in company have

473
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Speaker 1: time to chop it up there in Nashville. We don't

474
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Speaker 1: edit anything out of that stuff unless I slip up.

475
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Speaker 1: We don't edit anything out, so you get the full

476
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Speaker 1: wall to wall interview and head coaches love that because

477
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Speaker 1: that means they're never taken out of context. So before

478
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Speaker 1: we get to that, we've been doing the mood Tracker

479
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Speaker 1: series and we're gonna hit Texas tonight. So that's just

480
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Speaker 1: basically thermometer in the fan base how they feeling in

481
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Speaker 1: spring practice, and Texas is like one of the easy ones.

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Speaker 2: Texas. The mood is just is time to eat.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone has been asked, you got to have patience,

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Speaker 1: and they kind of had it as much as a

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Speaker 1: Texas fan could have it. They hired right which was

486
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Speaker 1: the thing that was holding them back. They hired right

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Speaker 1: in a sense that they didn't go get the biggest name,

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Speaker 1: although Sark was a big name, but they had the

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Speaker 1: right criteria at least I feel this time around. It's

490
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Speaker 1: not a guarantee of anything, but they hit the bullseye

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Speaker 1: a lot closer than they had with the last few hires.

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Speaker 1: Nothing about the infinite resources of Texas can be harnessed

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Speaker 1: and realized. If you don't hire the right head coach,

494
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Speaker 1: it's just like not having the right quarterback. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what the rest of your roster looks like in

496
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Speaker 1: big games if you don't have the right signal caller.

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Speaker 1: Head coach is just like that, but for an entire program.

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Speaker 1: So they did that, and then it's time to invest.

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Speaker 1: Now this is where the fan base comes into play.

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Speaker 1: This has never been a problem at Texas, but especially

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Speaker 1: in the NIL era. You want to flex about how

502
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Speaker 1: you're going to dominate this era because the rules of

503
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Speaker 1: the game, or lack thereof, are heavily tilted in your favor.

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Speaker 1: You're right, but that doesn't matter if you don't invest.

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Speaker 1: But they have invested and invested and invested and invested,

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Speaker 1: and so you know they sell out that stadium they

507
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Speaker 1: invest Those are some of the ingredients that if you

508
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Speaker 1: fulfill them, make me not really care if you got

509
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Speaker 1: high expectations, because if you've done everything that they're asking

510
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Speaker 1: you to do on your end, it's reasonable to have

511
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Speaker 1: high expectations. And then the last thing they had to

512
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Speaker 1: do is they had to go recruit. I've talked many

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Speaker 1: times to you about one of the biggest myths, one

514
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Speaker 1: of the biggest lies that I thought was being told

515
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Speaker 1: about Texas over the last decade plus, is well, Texas

516
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Speaker 1: has always recruited elite players.

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Speaker 2: Texas has always had great recruiting classes. It's a lie.

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Speaker 1: They were lying to you when they told you that

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Speaker 1: Texas recruited a whole bunch of ornaments, and they forsook

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Speaker 1: the tree itself.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: If I go out and sign twenty five, four and

523
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Speaker 1: five star receivers, I will finish with the number one recruiting.

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Speaker 2: Class in the country.

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Speaker 1: I will be boat raced every Saturday because I did

526
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Speaker 1: not build a football team. I just built a really

527
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Speaker 1: shiny looking recruiting class. Texas had not recruited from the

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Speaker 1: inside out the way they needed to.

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Speaker 2: To win in the Big twelve, much less in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: Now they do, and That's why the other day when

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Speaker 1: we were looking at you returning starters and we were

532
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Speaker 1: asking about Texas, how they're going to be here, how

533
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Speaker 1: they're going to be there, doesn't matter if you don't

534
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Speaker 1: know the names. Same thing we just said about Georgia

535
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Speaker 1: a little while ago. Just because you don't know the names,

536
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Speaker 1: even if you may be a Bulldog or a Longhorn

537
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Speaker 1: fan coming in the spring, doesn't mean you won't be

538
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Speaker 1: swearing by them come October and November, because the caliber

539
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Speaker 1: of athlete that is walking through the door in Austin,

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Speaker 1: Texas is just a little bit different and maybe earns

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt a little bit more than

542
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Speaker 1: guys elsewhere. The last box they have to check is

543
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Speaker 1: win yourself a national championship. Got to the playoff last year,

544
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Speaker 1: did not get it done against Washington.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, Sark's not seventy five years old.

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Speaker 1: He's got several more cracks at this if they keep

547
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Speaker 1: things on the tracks out there, several more tracks. It's

548
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Speaker 1: the classic cannot versus have not thing, which I know

549
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Speaker 1: you get tired of. But every show has a bunch

550
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Speaker 1: of new viewers. So what I mean by that is

551
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of coaches out there who have

552
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Speaker 1: not won titles yet, who people mistakenly look at and

553
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Speaker 1: say they cannot win a title. They did it with

554
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Speaker 1: Kirby for a little while. They don't do that so

555
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: much anymore. They're doing it with Sark. Now remains to

556
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Speaker 1: be seen whether they'll continue to do it. But I

557
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Speaker 1: believe he's got everything in place out there he needs,

558
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Speaker 1: and just make sure you're in position every year to

559
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Speaker 1: take a crack at it, and they will be for

560
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Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. If those things continue to hum like

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Speaker 1: they have, they'll be in place. And it's perfectly reasonable

562
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Speaker 1: for a Texas fan to be walking into every season saying,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, if we don't go deep in this playoff,

564
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Speaker 1: if we're not there in the national championship picture, I

565
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Speaker 1: kind of feel like this season's been a failure. That's harsh,

566
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Speaker 1: that's a steep standard. But you've met your end, so

567
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Speaker 1: they should meet their end. I got no problem with that.

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Speaker 1: The place for us to go today was Columbia South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Shane Biemer was great with us today, sat down for

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Speaker 1: a solid forty minutes and could have gone for two

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Speaker 1: know Shane Beemer from a distance. My goal for this

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Speaker 1: is know him a lot better by the time you

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Speaker 1: finished watching this show tonight. So, without further ado, here

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Speaker 1: is South Carolina head coach Shaneemer. So we're a few

631
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Speaker 1: years in now to the Shane Beemer era at South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Fan bases always want things to be linear you win

633
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Speaker 1: six games, then you win eight games, then you win

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Speaker 1: ten games.

635
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Speaker 3: Real world is not always like that.

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Speaker 1: So where is South Carolina football as a program right

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Speaker 1: now as we in a twenty twenty four Yeah, I

638
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Speaker 1: think we're on track.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, last season record wise wasn't what we wanted, but

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like I feel like we've we took

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Speaker 2: a step and we're in a better position now than

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Speaker 2: what we were a year ago. Obviously, to go from

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Speaker 2: two wins to seven wins with a bowl game and

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Speaker 2: our first season was great, and then we took another

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Speaker 2: step the next year, going from seven to eight and

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Speaker 2: then you know, twenty twenty three was not what we

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Speaker 2: wanted record wise, But like I said, we're in a

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Speaker 2: better place right now because of you know, the people

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Speaker 2: that we have in the program, the young guys who

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Speaker 2: brought in transfers, and like where we are. And certainly,

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Speaker 2: again five and seven wasn't what we're about, and no

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Speaker 2: one's happy about that, but it's that's behind us and

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Speaker 2: moving forward.

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Speaker 3: And couldn't be more excited about the future.

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Speaker 1: When you go back and you assess, well, let me

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Speaker 1: scratch that, because I know you're assessing week to week

657
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Speaker 1: you don't wait till the end of the year to

658
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: do that.

659
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: But when you get to the end of the year

660
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: and you get to.

661
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Do a holistic review on a season, Okay, you look

662
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: at five and seven, that wasn't what we wanted, But

663
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: that's just wins and losses from the product and the

664
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: process that produced it. How often can you look at

665
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: one or two things and say that's why we got

666
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: this or is it maybe a cumulative effect of a

667
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things.

668
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both and all honesty,

669
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: and it is something that throughout the season you're thinking

670
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: about each week and you're looking at a big fixture thing.

671
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: And there was a time last year where we were

672
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: sitting there at two and six, and at that point

673
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: you really start taking a look at what we're doing

674
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: and how we can be better and what the issues are.

675
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: And you know, a lot of it is off the field.

676
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: We had twelve season ending injuries last year, six on

677
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: the offensive line. So from a medical standpoint, from a

678
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: weight room standpoint, from a nutrition standpoint, looking at okay,

679
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: why did we have so many injuries, but specifically, why

680
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: did we have so many at one position? The offensive line.

681
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: So as soon as the season was over, sat down

682
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: with the strength coaches and the training staff and we

683
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: literally went through every single injury that we had last season.

684
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: You know, why did it happen, When did it happen,

685
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: how did it happen. Were there patterns or signs leading

686
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: up to that injury that we weren't aware of, or

687
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: maybe is there something that we see now that there

688
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: was a sign. So that's one thing. Then obviously the

689
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: football part of it. We played five true freshmen last

690
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: our started five true freshmen last season. Okay, so you're

691
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: looking at it and he as a head coach, how

692
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: can we better prepare these freshmen to be even more

693
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: prepared to play if they get thrown into that situation?

694
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: And then the schematic part of it. You know, we

695
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: went through a stretch three if you take the last

696
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: three seasons since we've been here, we've led the SEC

697
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: and takeaways if you take defensively over the last three years.

698
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: But there was a three or four game stretch last

699
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: season mid season where we didn't create a takeaway on defense,

700
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: we didn't get one turnover. It's hard to win that way,

701
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: especially in the SEC. So just things like that that

702
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: you look at so yet it's everything and it's how

703
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: can we adjust, how can we be better? There were

704
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: some things, I mean, we do that after every season.

705
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: There were some things after twenty twenty two that weren't

706
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: good enough that we improved in twenty twenty three. So

707
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: every year you look at it and how can we

708
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: be better in the next season, And that's certainly what

709
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: we did in this instance.

710
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: One of the things that fascinates me that maybe no

711
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: one else cares about, but I don't care if it

712
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: fascinates me is when you get to the end of

713
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: the season, let's say you had a chronic injury problem.

714
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Fans notice that too, and so fans will always be

715
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: quick to go to the call in radio show, go

716
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: to the message board and say everything from we need

717
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: a new cleat provider to we got to alter strength

718
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: and conditioning and they can't really know.

719
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Because they're on the outside. You're on the inside.

720
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: But sometimes you may not have a background in sports science.

721
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: You may not know exactly what a knee is made of,

722
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: but you've got to make the decision at the end

723
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: of the day. So what is that information gathering process,

724
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: like like how old or convinced do you have to

725
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: be that this can be attributed to this before you

726
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: say all right, change it all.

727
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's a great question.

728
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: And the thing for me is everyone, I mean, it's

729
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: just society right now in general. It's very much a

730
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: what's the most recent what have you done for me lately?

731
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: And last season was not good enough, and it's easy

732
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: to say, well, this is terrible, this is terrible, replace this,

733
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: replace that. Well, it's the same strength and conditioning program

734
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: that we had when we went from two wins to

735
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: seven wins and then went from seven to eight and

736
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: had the big wins that we've had in the previous

737
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: two years. It's the same people from that standpoint. They

738
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, We're trying to get better. It

739
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: was a big point of emphasis for us after twenty

740
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: twenty two. Okay, guys, we won seven, then we won eight.

741
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: We beat our rival for the first time in a while,

742
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: we beat Texas A and M for the first time ever,

743
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: we were nationally ranked. How are we going to be

744
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: better in twenty twenty three? Like nobody's sitting here patting

745
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: ourselves on the back.

746
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: So that was the point of emphesis last year.

747
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: So for me, it was very much okay, Shane, Let's

748
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: look at the big picture the last three seasons, and

749
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: obviously the most recent season wasn't good enough. But let's

750
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: look at the big picture of what we've done. And

751
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: for me, it's talking to a lot of people. I'm

752
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: probably too slow at times. I'm very thorough when I

753
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: come when it comes to making a decision, whether it

754
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: be a staff member, of whatever we're doing in the program,

755
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: and want to hear different ideas. And I talked to

756
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: our players, I mean at the end of the season.

757
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: I really wanted to get their thoughts on stuff and

758
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: essentially just had them kind of give me feedback on

759
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: every single area of the program and kind of like

760
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff is in the news about the

761
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: NFL PA surveys on all the NFL teams, and we

762
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: did something similar even before that. Just I wanted to

763
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: hear their thoughts on what we're doing in nutrition, on

764
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: what we're doing on team travel the day before the game,

765
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: our schedule, coaching, the weight room, training room, equipment room,

766
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: just you know, areas of concern things that we can

767
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: be better at. So gathered all their thoughts and then

768
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: kind of sit back and look at the big picture

769
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, what do we need to do to

770
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: be better going forward? And sometimes that's making a change,

771
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: which we did in some instances, and sometimes that's continuing

772
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: to do what we've been doing, but let's find a

773
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: way to be even better. And there was a lot

774
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: of soul searching throughout our building and all departments this

775
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: year about you know, Okay, we weren't good enough, and

776
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: we've kind of made a talked about it as a

777
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: team this year. Everything that we do this season like

778
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: it's personal, you know, it's personal accountability.

779
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: I was looking at the schedule a little while ago.

780
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: It looks a little different because you don't have teams

781
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: you normally play. You do have some teams that you

782
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: don't normally play. Then you got Texas and Ou that

783
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: come into the conference. One of my favorite things being

784
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: able to cover just ball in the SEC in general,

785
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: is seeing what it's like going on the road and

786
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: seeing how hostile and sometimes how unaccommodating road venues are,

787
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: how small those locker rooms aren't, how big your travel

788
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: party is. Explain to folks who never get to see

789
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: from your vantage point what it's like you walk into,

790
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: like Jorden Hair Stadium, or you walk into Kneeland Stadium,

791
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: some of those road conditions are so decrepit and it

792
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: looks like from the fourteen sixties, like Gladiators once upon

793
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: a time could have walked that hall.

794
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, I wouldn't change it because I love it.

795
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: And yet you take true freshmen on the road every

796
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 1: year and they.

797
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: Experienced that for the first time. What's that like?

798
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a show, just a great point,

799
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: and it's so true. You know, you go some places

800
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: where the the environment, locker room and all that is decent,

801
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: and then you go some places where, you know, we

802
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: had a game this past season where I had a

803
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: coach at another SEC school call me and say, Hey,

804
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: just to give you a heads up, it probably wouldn't

805
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: be a bad idea to invest in portagehn because there's

806
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: not going to be enough working toilets in this locker

807
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: room and your players are going to be waiting to

808
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: use the one stall that they have and the lost

809
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: of all.

810
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's yeah.

811
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: And that's not just the players, that's players, coaches staff

812
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: as well. I'm like, portage are like the things you

813
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: don't think about as a head coach you know, so

814
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I go to our opscuche. Hey, we may need to

815
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: get some porta John's for this trip as well, because

816
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: there's not enough bathrooms. Or it's funny, you go a

817
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: lot of these places. It's interesting how often my hot

818
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: water doesn't work in the locker room after a game

819
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 2: and things like that. But I love it. I mean,

820
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: that's what being a competitors about. So we try and

821
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 2: educate our guys a little bit beforehand so they don't

822
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: get out there on Friday or Saturday when they see

823
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: the stadium for the first time and lose their minds.

824
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: You know, you try to educate them a little bit

825
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: on what the environment's going to be, like, Okay, here's

826
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 2: the locker room, and here's this and that, but it

827
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: is something that is part of it. And you know,

828
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: coaches say that doesn't matter, and it doesn't at in

829
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: the day, but you're talking about eighteen, nineteen twenty year

830
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: old guys that may walk into the locker room and

831
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: there's only one bathroom once. It's all that can affect

832
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: them as well. So having those conversations.

833
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: But it's not just that.

834
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: It's you know, the hotel and you go some places, Yeah,

835
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: there's great places, and you go some other college towns where.

836
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: The environments not ideal at the.

837
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: Hotel you're staying at or whatnot. But you know, we

838
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: try and do a great job and make it as

839
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 2: smooth as our guys.

840
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 3: But that's one of the things that you love.

841
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: You know. We went up to Columba or Missouri my

842
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: first year and they were working on the runway there

843
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: in Columbia, Missouri, so we had to land in Saint

844
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: Louis and bust from Saint Louis to Columbia, Missouri and back,

845
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: and we kind of prouded ourselves on being road warriors.

846
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: That was the theme that we now didn't work because

847
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: we lost the game, but trying to sell that's the

848
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: age that we have and hey, they're going to try

849
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: and make it as bad on you as possible or

850
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: bad for you and uncomfortable as possible. But we love

851
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: being uncomfortable and this is what we're built for.

852
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: The whole ops side of football that you would see

853
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: if you were a fly on the wall and a

854
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: staff meeting of yours now, it's really incredible. Do me

855
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: a favorite, whether it be a game week or whether

856
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: it be getting ready for a spring practice the level

857
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: of detail that you want to have at your fingertips

858
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: as a head coach, where nothing's left a chance, like folks.

859
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: An example of how deep that goes in the things

860
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: that may be covered in a meeting that would make

861
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: people go wow, like they're paying attention to that.

862
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot. You know specifically right now with spring practice,

863
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: it's just you know, putting together a practice schedule is

864
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: that I do myself. But then not just not just okay,

865
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: what we're doing, but who's doing what? The field locations

866
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: so like for us on the practice field, they're specific

867
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: field locations, you know, the feel we have two practice

868
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: fields out there, which field that we're on, which end

869
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: of the field that we're on, or is the offense

870
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: when we go to this period and the horn blows,

871
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: is the offense going in?

872
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: Is the offense coming out?

873
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Is it on the thirty two yard line or the

874
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: thirty six yard line? So those are all things that

875
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: I as the head coach, put together and then I'm

876
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: thinking about things, Okay, we've been in this area of

877
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: the field. We don't want to kill the grass because

878
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: we've been there. We need to make sure we just

879
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: kind of rotate around a lot of periods. You guys,

880
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: you know that there's a lot of periods in practice. Okay,

881
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: it's a ten minute period and if you're the running back,

882
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: you're going to start out at this drill, but then

883
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: you're going to rotate halfway through to this drill. Just

884
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: the organization. So I spent a lot of time on

885
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: that and try and take part of the detail. We

886
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: had a couple of mishaps today, so I didn't do

887
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: a good enough job, you know, where we had some

888
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: coaches that got to the wrong spot. But I probably

889
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: I learned a lot of things from Kirby Smart when

890
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: I worked for him his first two years at Georgia,

891
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: and that was one of the things, just the structure

892
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: of practice and being able to maximize reps with everyone

893
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: where no one's standing around, always always doing something. But

894
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: then also the level of detail when it comes to travel.

895
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: You know, my time with Kirby at Georgia was the

896
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: first time that we ever Okay, you're getting ready to

897
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 2: play a game. Here's who the officials are in the game.

898
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: And Josh has called more past interference call penalties and

899
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: any other.

900
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: Official in the league this year.

901
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: Well, last week they had the Auburn Samford game and

902
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: this umpire he called six holding penalties.

903
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: You know the level of detail with that. We do

904
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: it here.

905
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: But after every away game we come in and we

906
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: would talk about any issues at the hotel, because you're

907
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: going back to that same hotel probably two years later

908
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: or maybe not now at the SEC schedules, but you're

909
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: going back at some point. So if we didn't like

910
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: this set up in the hotel, let's talk about it

911
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: and address It's all kinds of things. You could go

912
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: on and on about the detail. From an operation standpoint.

913
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Thank god, we have a great one here in George Wynn.

914
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: Thats a pro. But those opscas, they have a lot

915
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: on their plate.

916
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: I would say most folks in your profession aspire to

917
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: be a head coach, not all of them. Most want

918
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: to get there, and they grow up playing ball in

919
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: most cases, then coaching ball, and they work up to

920
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: where they have their own room, and then maybe they're

921
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: a coordinator. And then if they get to the level

922
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: of head coach. Sometimes, and more and more lately, you

923
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: find that some of the last things that you get

924
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: to focus on our football, you got a whole bunch

925
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: of non football things, paychecks much bigger, and that's a

926
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: huge blessing. But with that comes a whole bunch of

927
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: stuff that has nothing to do with football. I would argue,

928
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: probably that's more so the case now than ever. You've

929
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: been a head coach that I would still classify as

930
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: a fairly new head coach, but you've come along in

931
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: that age where it was probably evolving and like ramping

932
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: up more so than it ever has been. So Number one,

933
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: do guys reach out to you for advice on that

934
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: when they are new head coaches? And number two like,

935
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: how much has that shifted over the last few years

936
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: for you?

937
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? It has certainly. You know, younger guys get ahead

938
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: jobs and some have reached out to me just because

939
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: it was three years ago or four years ago December

940
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty when I got hired, and there were coaches

941
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: that I reached out to then to pick their brains

942
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 2: and stuff still do and then that's happened with me

943
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: as well. Guys, they get it. I think it's evolved

944
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, I grew up obviously the son

945
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: of the head coach, so I saw that I had

946
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: a front row seat to it my entire life. But

947
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: until you're in that chair, you really don't know. And

948
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: I knew my dad had a lot of things that

949
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: took him away from coaching, and there was a lot

950
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: of things that the job entailed, but until you're actually

951
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: in that chair, you don't realize how much of your

952
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: job is not coaching on the field. And it's why

953
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: you hear head coaches that have gone from head coach

954
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: to assistant and they're like, you know, I missed being

955
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: the head coach certain aspects of it, but man, it's

956
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: so great just being able to coach again and have

957
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: my own meeting room and be about football and recruiting only,

958
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: and I love all the different parts of the job.

959
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: But it certainly is evolved bore than ever before. Where

960
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: you know, my dad was would do spring practice and

961
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: then in the month of May he would go out

962
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: and speak to hockey clubs raising money for fundraising. Well,

963
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: I do that, and I go out and do that

964
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: in the month of May and the sum of April

965
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: game cup clubs.

966
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: But I'm also to a lot.

967
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, on a Tuesday night, we had football

968
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: workouts throughout the day and then I got on a

969
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 2: plane and I flew to Dallas Texas for an NIL dinner,

970
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: just to have dinner with some donors out there out

971
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: in Dallas, Texas. Went out there, flew out there, had dinner, eight,

972
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: came right back back about one o'clock in the morning.

973
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: I was back in here over the next morning, going again.

974
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: So there's things like that that the job has certainly changed.

975
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 2: And then with college athletics has changed. But with college

976
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: athletics changing, then everything that the head coaching job entails

977
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: has just continued to expand to so much more as well.

978
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 2: And there's no guidebook.

979
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: I can't pick up the.

980
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Phone and call my dad and be like, hey, how'd

981
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: you handle this from an NIL standpoint? Or how did

982
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: you handle the transfer portal when you could have a

983
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: guy that could transfer twice in one year if he

984
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: wanted to. You know, we're all kind of learning and

985
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: going through it the first time. And unfortunately, I'm in

986
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: a conference with a lot of great, great head coaches,

987
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: and you know, we all realized the chairs that we

988
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: sit in, and there's great camaraderie with one another, being

989
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: able to reach out to one another and help you

990
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: each other with ideas and things like that.

991
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the private jet life for

992
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: a second, because the private jet life most people aspired

993
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: to get to, but they never get there.

994
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: How crazy is it? You can be in Dallas, Texas.

995
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: And you know that you could look at your watch

996
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: and think, all right, if we got out of here

997
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: right now, I could be in bed in Colombia in

998
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: an hour fifty maybe two hours, whereas the rest of

999
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: us understand what the letters TSA mean and understand what

1000
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: winning in a terminal means, Like how nice is it

1001
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: to get to that level where he's going to hop around?

1002
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: But it's great.

1003
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: There's still a whole lot of TSA pre check and

1004
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: find commercial for me too, Like I haven't been doing

1005
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: this that long as well. So my wife and I

1006
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: went somewhere for spring break a couple of weeks ago.

1007
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: We were flying Delton and sitting in the terminal and

1008
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: all that.

1009
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: All so wait to go man exactly, so one of

1010
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: us exactly And when I get zoned one on that

1011
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: boarding pass like that as they win, that has not

1012
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: changed and I'll never forget my roots. So I still

1013
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: doing that regularly.

1014
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: But fortunately with.

1015
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: That trip or recruiting trips, being able to that is

1016
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: just it's great. Like you said, you know, being able

1017
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: to leave Dallas, Texas late at night after a dinner

1018
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: and fly back, get back to your own bed, and

1019
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: they'll be back in here the next morning. It's great

1020
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: from an efficiency standpoint, and fortunate that on that trip

1021
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: we had a great donor that allowed us to use

1022
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: as plane to go out there to Dallas. And then

1023
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: if it's school related business or recruiting, fortunate that we

1024
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: have you know, multiple planes here at artistsposal here at

1025
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: this university to be able to use on whether it

1026
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: be myself or Lamont our men's basketball coach or Don

1027
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Staley being able to utilize that for recruiting. Also, just

1028
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: from an efficiency standpoint.

1029
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned two other coaches there that are having big

1030
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: success at university right now.

1031
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 3: And I mean a lot of folks in the SEC

1032
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: care about football, football, football, and yet.

1033
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: You know, when we walk into these buildings, you can

1034
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: clearly tell there is an athletics culture.

1035
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: And the more success.

1036
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: More programs are having, obviously, the more.

1037
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: It boasters that culture.

1038
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, number one, like how competitive is it between

1039
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: the programs here? And number two, how much is that

1040
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: self fulfillment? How much does that kind of breed a

1041
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: culture in a building yeah, it's huge.

1042
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: It starts with our athletic director, Ray Tanner, who won

1043
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: two national championships as the baseball coach here. So I've

1044
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: got a boss that has sat in my chair and

1045
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: has won national championships and and is a is a

1046
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: you know, you have a lot of athletic directors that

1047
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: haven't coached before nowadays. You know, the days of Frank

1048
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: Boyles and Doug Dickey and people like that are are

1049
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 2: are kind of gone past. Here's a former coach as well,

1050
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: so that's great to have him as a resource. But

1051
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: then to be able to have you know, the greatest

1052
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: women's basketball coach in the world hero on campus that

1053
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: I can reach out to and pick her brain on

1054
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: stuff is awesome. And to be able to go and

1055
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: it's one thing I love about a college campus is

1056
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: just being able to be around other great coaches as well.

1057
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: So I love when I'm able to to go watch

1058
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: Dawn's teams practice or Lamont Paris and our men's basketball

1059
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: coach being able to go watch his team practice and

1060
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: pick his brain. And you know, the rosters are different.

1061
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: They don't have one hundred and twenty players on their

1062
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: team like we do in football. But a lot of

1063
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: the issues are the same and being able to help

1064
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: each other with recruiting, where you know, we've had football

1065
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: recruits that have come through here, Hey, what do you

1066
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: want to do this weekend? Can I meet don Sale?

1067
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: And she's awesome, She's never said no. And same thing

1068
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: with a player that she had last year that she

1069
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: was recruiting that me and Lamont and I met with

1070
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: as well, along with some of the other coaches and whatnot.

1071
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: So it's a great community here. Like I said, it

1072
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: starts at the top of coach Tanner.

1073
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: But to be able to.

1074
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: Have great coaches that I can pick their brain on,

1075
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: but then also to be able to say we've won

1076
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: national championships here at South Carolina. We're doing it in

1077
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: women's basketball currently, where we've done it in baseball, We've

1078
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: done it in other sports, Kyle, and there's no reason

1079
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: why we can't do it in football, and certainly on

1080
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: the pressures that were But as a competitor, yeah, absolutely,

1081
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 2: you want. I know how amazing this fan base is

1082
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: and I see how they support all of our sports,

1083
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: and you want to be able to bring them a champion.

1084
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: When you're filling spots on your staff you guys just

1085
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: brought some new coaches in. I've always sort of leaned

1086
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: towards the total games coach, the experience factor because I

1087
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: don't get to sit in an office with those guys.

1088
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't get them for six hours like you do.

1089
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: So from the outside, that's always been a metric that

1090
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I kind of trust. How much how much emphasis do

1091
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: you place on that? And then above and beyond that,

1092
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: what goes into the critical factors you define when you're

1093
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: filling out your staff.

1094
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think every situation is different. For that particular instance.

1095
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: What are you looking for? What does your team need

1096
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: if you have a receiver's job open, what do your

1097
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: receivers need at that moment? Tight ends whatever it might be.

1098
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, we've certainly gotten more experience with our

1099
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: hires this year. I mean being able to bring in o.

1100
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: DC Millis to coach our special teams, who's a long

1101
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: time NFL coach that's coached in multiple Super Bowls. And

1102
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: to bring in Mark well Blackwell to coach the running backs,

1103
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: who's been a coordinator in college, Sean Elliott who was

1104
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: a head coach in college, Mike Furry, who played in

1105
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, coach in the NFL and was a head

1106
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: coach in college.

1107
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: Love that aspect of it.

1108
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: And they're still young, they're energetic, and they're hungry, and

1109
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: that's where I think we hit a goal line and

1110
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: that we were able to bring in guys that have

1111
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: great experience and have accomplished a lot, but they're still

1112
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: really really hungry, and they have that edge about themselves

1113
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: about being here, which I love and it certainly helps in.

1114
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: The offensive staff room.

1115
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: You know, we brought in Dal Loggins at their offensive

1116
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: coordinator two years ago, and he came into, I don't

1117
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: want to say a tough situation, but he came into

1118
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: a situation where normally, if you're a coordinator coming in,

1119
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: you bring someone with you either maybe your offensive line coach,

1120
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: your tight ends coach, and he didn't bring anybody in

1121
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: with them as far as on the field coaches because

1122
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: I like the group that we had last year and

1123
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: then we had some movement on that side of the

1124
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: ball after this past season. So this was a one

1125
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: where now obviously was involved in the interview process with

1126
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: those guys and has ownership on who we brought in,

1127
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: and there's an unbelievable working dynamic in there right now

1128
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: with the offensive staff and the defensive staff and the

1129
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: staff in general, just because of that maturity and professionalism

1130
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: that we have with these guys and as far as

1131
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: critical factors, just one, you know, I mean guys that

1132
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: are good people first and foremost. This profession is hard enough.

1133
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to bring a buttthole into this building

1134
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: that nobody wants to be around. And you know, we

1135
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 2: have core values that we live by in this program

1136
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: and making sure that those are the kind of those

1137
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: are guys that embody what we want to be about,

1138
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: what I want this program to be about, and are

1139
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: on board with what we're about as well. And then

1140
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 2: you get in there and you just have a chance

1141
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: to visit with people and found, you know, with kind

1142
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: of what we needed on the offensive staff and it's

1143
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: special teams to meet. These guys were all home run

1144
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: highers from At the.

1145
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: Same point, I assume, like most normal people in a

1146
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: competitive profession, you may have days where you're sitting at

1147
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: your desk.

1148
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: And you go.

1149
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: Like, what are we doing right now? Maybe as a program,

1150
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: maybe is a sport, just what are we doing right now?

1151
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: So it always helps to zoom out and just remember

1152
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: like what your why is and what motivates you? And

1153
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: some guys are listening to the noise chip on their

1154
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: shoulder type guys. Other guys are process oriented. What's your

1155
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: source of fuel? Like what drives you in this profession? Yeah,

1156
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: first of all, it's still the players.

1157
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: I love to compete and I love working with young people,

1158
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: So I truly I know every coach says about it,

1159
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: but I says it, but I truly, truly, truly care

1160
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: about every single player in this program. And Leonora Sellers,

1161
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: who's one of our quarterbacks, he came to me last

1162
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: year He's like, hey, coach, do you really know the

1163
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: name of every player in our program?

1164
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, Like you don't think I'm doing.

1165
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know if if some hey coaches do,

1166
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: and I don't know if they do.

1167
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm assuming they do, but do.

1168
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Or don't, but absolutely do, and not just their name,

1169
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 2: but their background and their story and wanting to connect

1170
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: with them on a deep, deep level. Like I still

1171
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: that is why I got into coaching, and nothing has changed,

1172
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: And the opportunity to work with young people on the

1173
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: practice field and work with them on the game field

1174
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: and watch them come in as seventeen eight jun year

1175
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: old freshmen and graduate and have a chance to go

1176
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: on to the NFL. That's still what it's all about.

1177
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: And then for me and here in Columbia specifically, I

1178
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: know how we got the greatest fans in the entire world,

1179
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: and I know how much they want to have to

1180
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: bring a championship here to Columbia. I was here as

1181
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: an assistant coach with Stey Spurrier when we won the

1182
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: SEC East, and I can remember coming back from Gainesville, Florida,

1183
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: and at whatever time in the middle of the night,

1184
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: and the people that were in that stadium across the

1185
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: street to welcome the team back. And when we beat

1186
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Clemson two years ago and we busted back from Clemson

1187
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: and we got here and there were thousands of people

1188
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: right outside these doors here when we got back to Columbia, Like,

1189
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: we have a loyal, amazing, unbelievable fan base. And that's

1190
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: what gets me out of bed each morning, gets me

1191
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: coming into this facility ready to work the players and

1192
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: wanting and the coaches and staff I get to work with,

1193
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: but then wanting to bring a championship to these fans

1194
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: because I know how much it would mean to them,

1195
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: and you know, still working every single day to do that,

1196
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: to bring that championship to Columbia for them.

1197
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: Last time I was home, I told my mom, Hey,

1198
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: we're going out on the road. We're going to do

1199
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: this whole thing.

1200
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: And she said, Hey, one thing I'd like you to

1201
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: ask somebody.

1202
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 3: Is do they really need to be.

1203
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: In the office that many hours every day? Do they

1204
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: really need to be getting in there at six am?

1205
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: And what time you leave today?

1206
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: Today?

1207
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 2: I've got a dinner with a donor trying to raise

1208
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: some money.

1209
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 3: Tonight I'll get out.

1210
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: Of here about five forty five because I've got dinner

1211
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: with a donor.

1212
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so Tricia paid from Fortune Georgia would like to

1213
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: know do you really need to be in the office

1214
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: so many hours?

1215
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 3: Like what's happening during the day.

1216
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: It's all structured and regimented and organized. So yes, I

1217
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: would say we do. I'm not one of those guys

1218
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: that wants to say, Okay, you got to guard your

1219
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: desk and you've got to be there, because I've worked

1220
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: for those guys where you know you've got nothing going

1221
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: on and you're ready to leave, but you're kind of

1222
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 2: looking around the corner like is he gone yet? Is

1223
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: he gone yet? I don't want our coaches to feel

1224
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: that way. I mean, I try and be very efficient.

1225
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: And it goes back to like I tell our coaches,

1226
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: I want them. I don't want them to miss a

1227
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: kids sporting event and things like that. You only get

1228
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 2: one chance to be a dad, and we've got coaches

1229
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: that have a lot of young kids on their staff,

1230
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: on our staff that have young kids and want them

1231
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: to be a part of that. So we try and

1232
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: be very efficient with our time. But between coaching, recruiting,

1233
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: developing relationships with our players, there's a lot. But we

1234
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: also try and find that balance as well, Like you

1235
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 2: can't just grind, grind, grind twenty four to seven, three

1236
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: sixty five because you're going to wear out. And I

1237
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 2: believe in being able to get out of the office

1238
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: and being able to go do things and get away

1239
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: get away from things for a little bit as well.

1240
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: Our players, coaches and staff. So we're here when we

1241
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: need to be here. We try and be very efficient

1242
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: about getting our work done, but also having time to

1243
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: be around our families and get away from football as well.

1244
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: What did you think when you heard the news about

1245
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: Nick Saban retiring.

1246
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: I was shot.

1247
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: It's one of those you always remember where you were

1248
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: at that moment. My wife and I were in Ashville,

1249
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: North Carolina, and I was shot because we had literally

1250
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: just had a sec head coaches Zoom literally that day,

1251
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: and I think it started at eleven AM and we

1252
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: were off the zoom at like twelve fifteen that afternoon,

1253
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 2: and it was what out less than four hours later.

1254
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 2: I think that that news came out. So my wife,

1255
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: you know, she I still remember we went to an

1256
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: Atlanta Braids game two summers ago, and we were driving

1257
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: from the Atlanta Braves game and that Texas and Oklahoma

1258
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: are coming in the SEC and I'm like, what are

1259
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: you reading? Like you need to get off the internet,

1260
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: get off your phone.

1261
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: And then she told me that as well.

1262
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: She was on her phone.

1263
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 3: She's like, coach Sagan's retired.

1264
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, stop, we just had that zoom. So I

1265
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: was shot from that standpoint because it wasn't like he

1266
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: was on the zoom and he was active on it,

1267
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Unlike he was sitting here like I'm about to announce

1268
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: my retirement four hours like he was very outspoken on it.

1269
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: So initially shocked, but then after that, I don't know,

1270
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: sadness is the word, but disappointment that happy for him,

1271
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: disappointment selfishly that he wasn't going to be a part

1272
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: of our game anymore because of what he's meant to

1273
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 2: college football. And I mean, I can't lie, but it

1274
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: was still last time we had an in person SEC

1275
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: head coaches meeting with him in it was last May

1276
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: in Destin. And there's still a point of me. I mean,

1277
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: I'm still I'll be forty seven at the end of March,

1278
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: so I still feel like I'm young. I mean, there's

1279
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: still a part of me that I walk in a

1280
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: meeting and it's like that's a mixed states as well.

1281
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: And he's a competitor and all that as well, but

1282
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: there's great respect for him for what he's accomplished and

1283
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: being able to just listen to him in those head

1284
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: coaches meetings and learn from him and learn from him

1285
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: and his insight. There was a little bit of sadness

1286
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: from my standpoint, but then happiness for him that for

1287
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: all he had accomplished and he felt like he was

1288
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: at a place where he could do that.

1289
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: There's always this belief that head coaches must be privy

1290
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: to all this stuff coming down the road.

1291
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the public's taken aback by it.

1292
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: But head coaches, they surely would know about this stuff.

1293
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: And yet you mentioned Texas know you blindsided, save it

1294
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: retires blindsided. There's got to be other announcements and rule

1295
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: changes that even catch you by surprise. I mean, how

1296
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: frequent is that where something that's either in your world

1297
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: or may directly impact your job happens and you go,

1298
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: what I just found out from my wife?

1299
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: What exactly?

1300
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: No, those are two examples, and even with you, I

1301
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: had literally worked in Oklahoma the year before and nobody

1302
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: over there gave me a heads up.

1303
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: Not that the people over there needed to.

1304
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: But that was one that was interesting as well. I'd

1305
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 2: say quite a bit. I mean, there's a lot that

1306
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 2: either my our.

1307
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: Athletic director, coach Tanner, will.

1308
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: Give me a heads up on, Hey, this could be

1309
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: coming down the pipe, or we're in an SEC meeting

1310
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: and commissioner saying Ki gives us a heads up on

1311
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: this maybe trending in this direction. But there's a lot

1312
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: that happens that I find out. Sometimes I'll have someone

1313
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: in the media call me to ask me a question.

1314
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm like I should be asking if you know more

1315
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: about this than I do. Someone called me last week

1316
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: about what are you hearing about? I know there's two

1317
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: ACC schools that are suing the ACC and someone called

1318
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: me to ask me about that, and I've told them

1319
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: I find out my information reading what you write.

1320
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know why you're asking me, but.

1321
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 2: There's it's one of those I guess you're on a

1322
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: need to know basis, and when I need to know stuff,

1323
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: people will let me know.

1324
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: So if we're looking at South Carolina now spring of

1325
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is underway, a lot of people have.

1326
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: Focused on quarterback position.

1327
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: I'd like you to talk about that, but then extending

1328
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: beyond that, like what are the specific points.

1329
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: Of emphasis with this team this spring?

1330
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. One, Like a lot of teams in college football,

1331
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: we have so many new faces and every single year

1332
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: it's starting over, you know, like twenty twenty three team,

1333
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 2: I think we had forty new players on the team

1334
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: that weren't even there the year before when we accomplished

1335
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: when we won eight games, And so it's one, how

1336
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: connected can we become How quickly can we become really

1337
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: connected as a team and get these new faces and

1338
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: new people, whether it be freshmen nowadays in college football

1339
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: or in high school. So many guys graduated high school early.

1340
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 2: So our entire freshman classes here right now, except for

1341
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: three scholarship guys from the state of Georgia that aren't

1342
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: here right now, but everybody else is here. So getting

1343
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: these freshman acclimated, new transfers coming in, that's kind of

1344
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: the main point of emphasis. And then because we have

1345
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: so many new faces, let's figure out, you know, who

1346
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: we are as a team and what these guys can be.

1347
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: We're fortunate and that we bring back a lot of leadership,

1348
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that have played a lot of

1349
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: football around here. I mean, there's still a boatload of

1350
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: guys that we're here when I got hired in December

1351
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. They're still on this team that have

1352
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 2: been around here for a while now. And then a

1353
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: lot of guys that were part of that first recruiting

1354
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: class that we brought in right after that as well.

1355
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: So we've got some a good combination, a good mix

1356
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: of veteran guys that have been around here for a

1357
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: while that are not happy about last season and are

1358
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: super hungry and super motivated, and then a good mix

1359
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: of new faces, talented athletic new faces as well.

1360
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: So like where we are, there's a lot of.

1361
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: Competition out on the practice field right now. We have

1362
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: lost a lot of production, but we have brought in

1363
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: a lot of production from the transfer portal and high

1364
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: school recruiting, and I think our depth is better across

1365
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: the board if you look at all of our positions.

1366
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: I really feel like we're deeper from a depth standpoint

1367
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: that we were than we were last season.

1368
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: And that's exciting.

1369
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: And let's kind of figure it out there and compete

1370
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: and figure out how this whole thing shakes out.

1371
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: It's a really weird situation now, just with rosters across

1372
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: the country where there's not a whole lot of rules

1373
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: on player movement and when players can move, it's just

1374
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of kind of free reign right now. Have you

1375
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: had to adjust anything about how much you check in

1376
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: on guys and make sure and take their temperature.

1377
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: Especially in spring because you've got a.

1378
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: Post spring portal window coming up, making sure you're good,

1379
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: You're good, You're good.

1380
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 3: I know you always would have done that.

1381
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: Is there may be a little volume knob turn up

1382
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: now because you.

1383
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: Know the climate is so unstable.

1384
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, you're correct and saying that we've always done that.

1385
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: You know. I hear people say all the time every

1386
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: year you got to like re recruit your own team.

1387
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: You got to re recruit your own team. And I

1388
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,439
Speaker 2: get that, but I don't look at it that way.

1389
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a relationship person and truly, like I said,

1390
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: care about all these guys and have relationships with them.

1391
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: So to me, it's just to do what I've always done,

1392
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: what we've always done as far as building relationships. But

1393
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm also naive, would be naive if I didn't think

1394
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: there were people in their ear telling them, hey, you know,

1395
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: you'd be better off somewhere else, and these guys don't

1396
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 2: know how to use you, you'd be better off here. So

1397
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: I understand that it's out there. We only have them

1398
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: in this building four hours a day, and there's twenty

1399
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: hours a day that they're outside this building. If they

1400
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: choose to be so understanding the noise they're hearing when

1401
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: they're outside this building in regards to that, So certainly

1402
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: the knobs are a little bit twisted and tighten them

1403
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: up as well, because it is it is different there's

1404
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: no question about it. But again, we want to just

1405
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: continue to We're going to be who we are. We're

1406
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: not going to be fake by any stretching imagination. Be

1407
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: who we are. Coach these guys up, pour into them,

1408
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 2: make us a place that they don't want to leave.

1409
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: And if someone feels like they have a better situation elsewhere,

1410
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: wish them well. But I kind of always think back

1411
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: when I there was one year I went and visited

1412
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 2: the visited the Pittsburgh Steelers and Bruce Arians was the

1413
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator at the time and ended up going to

1414
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 2: the Charter or the Bucks and won a Super Bowl

1415
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals and I went up there in May

1416
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 2: for OTA's mini camp and I can remember sitting in

1417
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: an offensive meeting the coach Arians stood up in the

1418
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: front of the room and here it is like, you're

1419
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 2: watching the Pittsburgh Steelers, And I remember, I'm the same,

1420
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: ain't the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1421
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 3: This is just a bunch of.

1422
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Dudes trying to make the team like the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1423
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: Will know who the Steelers are in September when we

1424
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: kick it off, because that's the team. When the team's

1425
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: going to be, and it's not like that. But I

1426
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: don't know truly who's going to be on our team

1427
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: until the middle of May, because that's when the portal closes.

1428
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: So I hope we don't lose anybody that's currently on

1429
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: our team. Last year, we brought some guys in in

1430
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 2: the month of May that transferred from other schools. So

1431
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: every coach in America truly does not know who is

1432
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: going to be on their team until the middle of May.

1433
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: So in a lot of ways, it really hasn't changed

1434
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: how I do things, which you just also keep that

1435
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: in the back of your mind too, that it makes

1436
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: the summer even more critical once you get those guys

1437
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: here because there's a short time frame to ramp up

1438
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: to the season.

1439
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: Last one here you mentioned you won't really know what

1440
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: your crystallized team is until May. That's what a lot

1441
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: of coaches are saying. I don't know many of you

1442
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: guys who like it that way, but it is the

1443
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: way it is right now. Yet it's out of your control.

1444
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: You can't change the rule. So as much as you

1445
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: try and stay focused on the task at hand and

1446
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: worry about things you can control, what is the thing

1447
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: out of your control that you spend the most time

1448
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: thinking about, or checking on, or reading about, or being

1449
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: focused on. Great question, probably the thing that you say

1450
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: other coaches don't like and are concerned about the calendar

1451
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: and whatnot, the rules governing college athletics. I guess in

1452
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: some ways it's under mock, I have to say, but

1453
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm not making the rules now. Coaches can help shape

1454
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: things and give direction, but that's people like.

1455
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: Way above our heads that are making rules, and that's

1456
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: probably something.

1457
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: I've been to Washington, d C.

1458
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: Twice now in the last year to go to Gopitol

1459
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: Hill and meet with congressmen.

1460
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: About a headline, by the way, what aheadline, Yeah, tell yourself.

1461
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 4: Ten years ago exactly one my dad wasn't doing, yes exactly,

1462
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: but I was up there with coach Day for that

1463
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: one as well, and that's just one of those that

1464
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 4: you spend a lot of time up.

1465
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: There, and I don't know how much we got done.

1466
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: So that's something that certainly I think a lot about

1467
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: the calendar and how things can be better, and I

1468
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: want much best for the game. But in the short term,

1469
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot I can do about that

1470
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: right now. So it's getting back to your focus on

1471
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,959
Speaker 2: what you could control, and that's your team, our team

1472
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: here in this building as well. But there is a

1473
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on out here in college athletics,

1474
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: but it just seems like it it changes every week

1475
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: in regards to rules, calendar, when they can transfer, when

1476
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: they can't transfer.

1477
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: In il this has happened, and that's happened.

1478
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: This conference is doing this, This schools sueing this conference,

1479
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: and it's just a lot that is going on. So stay,

1480
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, tunnel vision on what you can control. All

1481
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: that's right here now. So I'll get you out here

1482
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: on this part. So you went up to Capitol Hill.

1483
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: You're a guy who coaches in front of eighty to

1484
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people multiple saturdays in the fall. You're

1485
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: a front facing fixture of an SEC program, so you

1486
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 1: speak publicly, You appear publicly a lot.

1487
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: But then you go to Capitol Hill. Did the poems

1488
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: get a little sweaty? Like? How did you feel that day?

1489
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 3: What was the vible on Capitol Hill?

1490
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 2: It was awesome? Like I love I love history, so

1491
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: being up there and being in the US Capitol and

1492
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: the history in that building was awesome just because I'm

1493
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: a history buff and I love all of that probably

1494
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: if I need to get my mind off football. I

1495
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: enjoyed just keeping up the politics and things like that.

1496
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was pretty cool to be able to

1497
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: walk through those halls and see different people that are

1498
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 2: you know, famous senators, congressman and whatnot, and being able

1499
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: to meet with people, and just the people in your

1500
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 2: own state, being able to meet with you know, Tim

1501
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: Scott who ran for president, or Lindsey Graham or Jim

1502
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: Clyburn or Nancy Mace or whoever, all the different people

1503
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: from Russell Fry and so many people from here in

1504
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: Jeff Duncan and here in South Carolina. But then the

1505
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: other ones that you walk past, you know, you walk

1506
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: down the hall and you'd be like, oh, there's so

1507
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: and so's office. You know, there's so and so's office

1508
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 2: as well. And then there was another trip that we

1509
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: took up there that was you talk about palm sweaty.

1510
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: Someone arranged like a private tour of the Pentagon while

1511
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: we were up there, So that was pretty awesome as

1512
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 2: well to be able to see the security level and

1513
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: everything in that also. But yeah, the palms are sweaty

1514
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: because you don't want to like say something, you know,

1515
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm up here for a reason. I don't want to

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: say anything that's going to screw this whole situation up,

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Speaker 2: So just sequin spoken to and try and keep it,

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Speaker 2: keep it right there. But everybody was just going back

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Speaker 2: to Coach Staley. Everybody was a namor with Coach Staley.

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Speaker 2: I might as well not even a bit there, because

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard anyone say sometimes I

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: The first time I've ever had that one thrown out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I'm at home and I'm calling recruits

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Speaker 5: You quickly not event on lifted. I say, you know what,

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Speaker 5: I got it pretty good coach in college athletics. It's

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Speaker 5: not so bad, coach. We appreciate it. Thank you, appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you guys being tuned in. We'll be back Thursday night,

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