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Speaker 2: one with the poll question Seaton, and then we'll dive

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Speaker 2: into preseason last night in this weekend. Yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: up there right now.

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Speaker 3: Which position can a team least afford to lose a

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl player? Offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback or wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Those are your four options right now. Seventy four percent

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Speaker 3: of that vote going to offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big loss, big loss for the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: And Rashaan Slater is one of the He's on the

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Speaker 2: short list of best left tackles in football, and your

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Speaker 2: whole offense is predicated on having that left tackle, being

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Speaker 2: able to run the football, and now Joe Old has

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Speaker 2: to go from right tackle to left tackle, and then

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have somebody replace him at right tackle,

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Speaker 2: and then it's a domino effect there. But this is

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Speaker 2: a really big loss, and he just signed that contract

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Speaker 2: extension justin Herbert coming off his best QBR If you

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Speaker 2: buy into that and they were able to run the football,

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Speaker 2: he didn't have a lot of yards there. I think

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Speaker 2: yards are overrated. Sometimes you'll go, hey, that guy through

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Speaker 2: for five thousand yards. I mean Jamis Winston. I think

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Speaker 2: one's through for five thousand yards?

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Speaker 4: Was that the.

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Speaker 2: Thirty for thirty year? Thirty touchdown passes, thirty interceptions. I

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Speaker 2: mean a lot of guys, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: They got a lot of yards.

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Speaker 2: Now Drew Brees has a lot of yards as well,

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Speaker 2: but he's got a Super Bowl to show for it.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tom Brady played such a long time saying

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Speaker 2: with Drew Brees that they were going to accumulate sixty

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Speaker 2: seventy thousand yards and Jalen Hurts is not a guy

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Speaker 2: who's going to put up big yards. And I think

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Speaker 2: because of that, we look at him and maybe he's

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Speaker 2: just a great football player. Maybe he's a good quarterback

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Speaker 2: and a great football player, and that, you know, might

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Speaker 2: sound strange to you. I think he just knows how

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Speaker 2: to play the position. But as far as the numbers

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Speaker 2: that go along with being a great quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't measure up to them. And maybe that's where

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Speaker 2: he is not in the top five with people. Maybe

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Speaker 2: in some people's you know rankings, since everybody's got a ranking,

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Speaker 2: he's not in the top ten.

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Speaker 4: But he does know how to win.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if he would win another Super Bowl not out

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Speaker 2: of the realm of possibilities and being the MVP. Now

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Speaker 2: you've been to three Super Bowls, you won two and

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Speaker 2: your two time MVP, Well, now you're a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: Right If Russell Wilson gets the second Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: it feels like like there's certain players. Is Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer already? And I would say, yes,

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Speaker 2: it's Josh Allen a Hall of Famer already? I would

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Speaker 2: say probably yes. Now, there was a caller who called

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Speaker 2: in yesterday, I believe yesterday or the day before, and

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Speaker 2: he said, what if we looked at careers in reverse order.

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Speaker 2: So we looked at Russell Wilson and we said, man,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of struggled a little bit. But then you

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Speaker 2: get to the beginning of his career, which if we

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Speaker 2: flipped it would be at the end of his career,

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Speaker 2: and you go, man, he had a great career.

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Speaker 4: You know, Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 2: If you flip it and you have him winning a

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Speaker 2: doesn't do anything, is he a Hall of Famer? And

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Speaker 2: the answer would be probably not, because we'd look at

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Speaker 2: it and it wouldn't be recency biased. We would say, well,

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Speaker 2: he didn't do anything after he won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, it's been fourteen years since he won a

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Speaker 2: You know, John Elway was a Hall of Famer, but

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Speaker 2: those last two Super Bowls that he won, all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, John moved up the list of greatest quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: of all time. But if we flip careers and say

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Speaker 2: what did you do early and what did you do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauli Russell Wilson had eight playoff wins in his twenties.

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Speaker 5: He's had one in his thirties. Well, so at age thirty,

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Speaker 5: let's say he got hurt or whatever would have happened

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Speaker 5: to him. He probably cruse to the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: if he somehow stopped playing at thirty due to injury.

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Speaker 2: And we were looking at rushing touchdowns, we're looking at

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Speaker 2: rushing yards for quarterbacks. And I'll go back to what

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Speaker 2: Steve Young has said numerous times on the show. Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer said, the yards are out there, go get them.

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Speaker 2: He said, that's today's quarterback. They're giving you yards. Go

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Speaker 2: get them. Be smart when you get them. But they're there.

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Speaker 2: They have design plays. You know, Josh Allen is getting

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Speaker 2: those yards, Lamar Jackson getting those yards. That's what today's

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Speaker 2: quarterback has to do. Jalen Hurts getting yards out there.

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Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you're going to look

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Speaker 2: at yardage totals for quarterbacks and you're going to say,

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Speaker 2: somebody's going to rush for nine thousand yards like Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson's at sixty two hundred yards right now, not out

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Speaker 2: of the realm of possibilities that he adds another three

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Speaker 2: thousand yards to his rushing career. He's twenty eight years

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Speaker 2: of age. Two time MVP can end up with nine

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Speaker 2: thousand rushing yards, maybe ten thousand rushing yards Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: Then you start to look at touchdowns. Does Cam Newton

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Speaker 5: A quarterback all time? Cam Newton's seventy five, but Josh

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Speaker 5: Allen is just behind him at sixty five.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Cruise passed him. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: The one yard goal line touchdown is becoming the norm.

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Speaker 4: How many touchdowns does Jalen Hurts have?

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Speaker 5: He already has fifty five. I think he's twenty six

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Speaker 5: years old, twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 2: Did you see when they ran the push tush tush

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Speaker 2: push Tanner McKee, Now he's a big guy and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't squat, you know, six hundred pounds like Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: When he tried to run that tush push, it looked different.

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Speaker 2: That's why you know they'll be successful with a quarterback sneak.

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Speaker 2: If they take that out, Jalen Hurts will still make

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Speaker 2: it successful because there's no quarterback in the NFL who

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Speaker 2: can leg press six hundred pounds just being able to

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Speaker 2: generate that power. You're not going to stop him. But

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Speaker 2: you know, we've seen this with Josh Allen. He's too tall.

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Speaker 2: We saw that in the postseason where you stop him

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Speaker 2: and Jalen Hurts, you're not going to stop that.

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Speaker 4: You can take that play out. You're not going to

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Speaker 4: stop him.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, this might be an unfair comparison, but do

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Speaker 6: you think Jalen Hurts might have the same career as

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Speaker 6: a Troy Akoman where he's never regarded as the best

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Speaker 6: quarterback in the game, but he just collected rings on

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Speaker 6: a really, really, really good team and where people don't

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Speaker 6: even people never even considered Troy Akman not a Hall

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Speaker 2: Troy was a really good passer, but that offense was

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Speaker 2: so balanced that he didn't need They never asked him to.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Did he ever throw for thirty touchdowns? I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I don't think he did, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Pauli, Troykman never threw for twenty five touchdowns in this season.

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Speaker 5: He averaged in his peak years twenty three fifteen thirteen,

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Speaker 5: sixteen low interceptions. They ran the ball.

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Speaker 2: How would we view Let's say Jalen Hurts did this

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, how would we view Jalen Hurts. Would

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts be the best quarterback in football?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 2: Once again, I'm looking at the media coverage and how

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Speaker 2: they would change maybe their opinion because we look at

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Speaker 2: the Eagles and you start talking about Saquon Barkley, the

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Speaker 2: offensive line, the defensive line, got great receivers, and Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 2: You don't lead with Jalen Hurts, but he's done everything

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Speaker 2: that we should be leading with that. Saquon Barklay had

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Speaker 2: one of the great seasons in running back history to

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Speaker 2: do what he did and then cap it off and

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, and that overshadowed Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Mark, maybe if he had a season like Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 6: with the fifty touchdowns, if he had a really big

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Speaker 6: season with gaudy numbers.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's ever gonna have that.

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Speaker 6: Oh I know, I know. But as far as him

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Speaker 6: being a cowboy and if he was doing this for

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys, to me, it might be relatively the same,

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Speaker 6: But more media coverage.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think they would. I think the media would look

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Speaker 2: at him differently. If he did this for the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: and he's winning championships, I mean, oh my goodness. It's

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Speaker 2: just with Philadelphia. It just feels like we go, oh

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Speaker 2: and look, I say this, it's the best run organization.

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Speaker 2: Them and the Chiefs. They've draft well, they re signed

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Speaker 2: players free agency. They built both lines offense, defensive line. Everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, I think this is kind of Jalen Hurt's story.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's what's happening at the Eagles and the

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Speaker 3: way he's covered there is no different than what happened

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Speaker 3: at Alabama. He couldn't even prove he was the best

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Speaker 3: quarterback at Alabama, and now he can't prove that he's

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Speaker 3: a good quarterback at the Eagles. I think it's something

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Speaker 3: that people just have planted in their head that now

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Speaker 3: that's just sort of who he is. He's not really

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Speaker 3: the guy, but he kind of is. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: is he yes, he's great now, I don't know he's

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Speaker 3: it's the team, is it?

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Speaker 2: In Well, sometimes when you look at always the second

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Speaker 2: round draft pick or Lamar Jackson at the end of

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Speaker 2: the first round, that all these teams passed on these guys,

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Speaker 2: and then it's hard to Christen them, you know, better

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Speaker 2: than Joe Burrow or Josh Allen, who were drafted higher.

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Speaker 2: But he's had far more success.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Like you said, we judge quarterbacks on yardages

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Speaker 5: and touchdowns to interceptions, but there's not a stat least

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Speaker 5: amount of mistakes. It seems like Jalen Hurts always makes

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Speaker 5: the right decision, does not take unnecessary hits, but runs

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Speaker 5: when he needs to. Last year, fifteen starts, eighteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: That's not special, but only five picks.

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Speaker 4: Coaches will love that.

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Speaker 5: Five picks in entire NFL seasons.

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Speaker 7: Gorgeous.

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Speaker 5: He runs the ball efficiently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't Justin Herbert have twenty three touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: three interceptions his best year quarter Yeah, let me get

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Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls in here.

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Speaker 4: J in the Bay, Hi, j.

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Speaker 8: ADP.

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Speaker 9: So, my buddy Travis grew up in San Diego and

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Speaker 9: went to school at Arizona, and so his three favorite

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Speaker 9: sports teams are the Chargers, the Padres, and Arizona men's basketball.

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Speaker 9: I was wondering between you and the dan Nettes and

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Speaker 9: potentially a poll question which one of those teams would

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Speaker 9: be the most frustrating team to be a fan of

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Speaker 9: and most importantly suck at Travis.

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Speaker 4: Is it okay?

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Speaker 5: Now you have Herbert. You've always had high end talent

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Speaker 2: And then she ended up dating my teammate. No need

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Speaker 2: Double on Andre? I like, does anybody have a single

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, single and andre is In the dictionary, a

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Speaker 4: Okay, so body.

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Speaker 5: Double on Andre A phrase has two meetings, one of

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Speaker 4: Body, Body, Okay, that's the andre you want.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break here, Okay, back after this Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show.

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Speaker 2: More phone calls coming up a seven to seven to

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Speaker 2: three DP show, Seaton, what's the poll question for the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right now?

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Speaker 3: Hour one is just it's pretty dominated by the offensive.

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Speaker 2: That, Okay, we'll save it to after Drew Brees. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: seems reasonable, Thank you, Todd. It is a Friday, you

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Speaker 2: got standard. I'm a journalist.

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Speaker 4: You are journalists.

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Speaker 7: Anyone that suggests otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Today to today, I'm a journalist, yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're the don Data of journalists.

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Speaker 4: I'm an alligator.

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Speaker 12: a great relationship with him during that time. Unfortunately, I

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Speaker 12: think it got reported a little bit differently, and now

441
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Speaker 12: somehow that's become the narrative. It could not be further

442
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Speaker 12: from the truth. You can go talk to Pete Bvakua,

443
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Speaker 12: who is the head of NBC Sports. You can go

444
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Speaker 12: talk to Sam Flood, you can go talk to any

445
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Speaker 12: of those guys, Mike Trico, Rob Hyland. Then I had

446
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Speaker 12: a great relationship with those guys, and they wanted me back.

447
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Speaker 12: Unfortunately the schedule just didn't work given the fact that

448
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Speaker 12: I wasn't really able to do what I wanted to do,

449
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Speaker 12: which is broadcast NFL games.

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Speaker 4: Is there a statue of you in New Orleans?

451
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Speaker 7: No, there's not.

452
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Speaker 4: Would you like to have a statue of you a New.

453
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Speaker 12: Or I don't need a statue, you know what, there's

454
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Speaker 12: a statue of Steve Leeson and that's that's one of

455
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Speaker 12: my favorites.

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Speaker 4: Well, I and I'm being serious.

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Speaker 2: I know you're being modest here, but when you think

458
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Speaker 2: about an athlete and what he meant to a city,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's another athlete who meant more

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Speaker 2: to a city than you did, or do to New Orleans.

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Speaker 12: Look, I think all of us if you go back

462
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Speaker 12: to you know that time two thousand and six, Sean

463
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Speaker 12: Payton comes in there as the head coach. I mean

464
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Speaker 12: literally his first free agent signing was Scott Fujita, right,

465
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Speaker 12: who was a mainstay on our defense, who was one

466
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Speaker 12: of my good good friends, like and then just all

467
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Speaker 12: the little pieces that came together, you know, six oh seven,

468
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Speaker 12: O eight, which culminated our Super Bowl victory and O

469
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Speaker 12: nine and then really just an incredible run throughout our

470
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Speaker 12: fifteen years there.

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Speaker 7: There were so many people that were part of that.

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Speaker 12: So it's not I mean, even as you would sit

473
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Speaker 12: here and say, hey, maybe Sean Payton and I get

474
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Speaker 12: a lot of the credit, at the end of the day,

475
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Speaker 12: I think we just take pride in the fact that

476
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Speaker 12: we had a chance to be a part of something

477
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Speaker 12: really really special, really unique, probably unprecedented from the perspective

478
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Speaker 12: of what happened to city where the team was, as

479
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Speaker 12: far as just the organization and just the perception that

480
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Speaker 12: people had of the Saints and then all of a

481
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Speaker 12: sudden being able to come together and create what was

482
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Speaker 12: one of the greatest runs I think in certainly NFL history,

483
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Speaker 12: professional sports history, and I think the reputation now of

484
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Speaker 12: what a team means to a city and really the

485
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Speaker 12: standard of what a team can mean to a city.

486
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Speaker 12: I feel like the New Orleans Saints represent that as

487
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Speaker 12: well as any wrong.

488
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Speaker 2: And I would have the statue of you to be

489
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Speaker 2: the actual size to scale. I would have it being

490
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Speaker 2: six feet so people can say, wow, he did it

491
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Speaker 2: at that height. I'm his height or I'm taller than him.

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Speaker 2: I don't want it to be seven feet tall. I

493
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Speaker 2: wanted to be six feet. Maybe you think you're six

494
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Speaker 2: to one, but maybe it's six feet. Can you be

495
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Speaker 2: too short to play quarterback in the No.

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Speaker 12: Here's if you go back to you need the perspective

497
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Speaker 12: of having the linemen in front, you know. So it's

498
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Speaker 12: like it's like one of those It's like one of

499
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Speaker 12: those statues where you got like, you know, it's like

500
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Speaker 12: the cavalry, you know, and you got the big horses

501
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Speaker 12: in front, you know, like that's what you need for

502
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Speaker 12: the perspective.

503
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Speaker 4: So you're gonna be hidden behind your offences line.

504
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Speaker 12: Like the six foot sixth light in front of perspective

505
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Speaker 12: of see through these guys. No, look, I don't think

506
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Speaker 12: you can be too short. Look, there's that there's that

507
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Speaker 12: prototype size that maybe we all have in our mind

508
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Speaker 12: for each position.

509
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Speaker 7: In fact, I'm sure there's.

510
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Speaker 12: A lot of scouts that made a great living, you know,

511
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Speaker 12: through the years, with just having that that mold or

512
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Speaker 12: that model for each position. I know that Sean Payton

513
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Speaker 12: had a little bit of that because he got it

514
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Speaker 12: from parcels like I would.

515
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Speaker 7: I would.

516
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Speaker 12: I was in these discussions all the time as to

517
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Speaker 12: what positions were supposed to look like. Apparently the only

518
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Speaker 12: one that could have quite a bit of variation was

519
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Speaker 12: the running back position. He's like, they parcels just say

520
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 12: they come in all shapes and sizes. They just need

521
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 12: to have a big lower half, right, otherwise they're going

522
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Speaker 12: to constantly be in the shop, so to speak, They're

523
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Speaker 12: going to be injured. So I mean, like the darren

524
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Speaker 12: Sprolls is right, five foot seven, you know, one hundred

525
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Speaker 12: and eighty pounds, but it was one of the most

526
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Speaker 12: dynamic players in the history.

527
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Speaker 7: In the NFL, I think from a quarterback perspective.

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Speaker 12: Keep in mind too, not only was I shore, but

529
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Speaker 12: I came in the league behind a guy named Doug Flutie, who,

530
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Speaker 12: in my opinion, is one of the greatest quarterbacks in

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Speaker 12: all of professional football. And obviously he played every level

532
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Speaker 12: of it, from the USFL to the CFL to the NFL.

533
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Speaker 12: But he was doing things that were ahead of his time,

534
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Speaker 12: and I don't think he gets the appreciation for it.

535
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Speaker 12: He was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Everything you see

536
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Speaker 12: Mahomes do, I saw Fluty do every day in practice,

537
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Speaker 12: from the no look throws to the back shoulder throw

538
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Speaker 12: to just like manipulating defenders with his eyes, buying time like.

539
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Speaker 12: He just had such an incredible feel for the game,

540
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Speaker 12: and a lot of the things he did he did

541
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Speaker 12: out of survival, right like you think about it, I

542
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Speaker 12: think some of the greatest innovations in history is because hey,

543
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Speaker 12: there was a problem that needed to be solved, or

544
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 12: he had a limitation that you had to overcome in

545
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Speaker 12: some way with some other sort of talent and so

546
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Speaker 12: like truly he did things out of survival, like he

547
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 12: would have been able to play the position if he

548
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Speaker 12: wasn't able to do these things. But I had a

549
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Speaker 12: front row seat to this for four years with the

550
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Speaker 12: Santigo Charters, and some ask his backup, and then in

551
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 12: other cases he is my backup. But nonetheless he was

552
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Speaker 12: an incredible mentor for me and I learned so much

553
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Speaker 12: from and so therefore I would say he played the

554
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Speaker 12: game at five nine and a half or whatever Doug was.

555
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Speaker 7: I don't think that's I don't think that's a limitation.

556
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Drew Brees, the future Hall of famerous

557
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP.

558
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Speaker 4: What are you doing with Jimmy Johns so well?

559
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Speaker 12: First off, so I've been a fan of Jimmy Johns

560
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 12: since night ninety seven my freshman year at Purdue University.

561
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 12: I showed up to Wiley Hall my freshman year and

562
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Speaker 12: you're staying up late studying right Dan, and three o'clock

563
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 12: in the morning, you're starving, and the only place open

564
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 12: is Jimmy Johns. So you dial up Jimmy Johns and

565
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 12: literally fifteen minutes later, you got some dude rolling up

566
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Speaker 12: on a bike to hand you with Jimmy john sandwich.

567
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Speaker 7: It's like the greatest pie of food in the world.

568
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Speaker 12: So literally that was like what I lived on three

569
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Speaker 12: days a week in college. So I've had a relationship

570
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Speaker 12: with Jimmy Johns for a long time. I've been at

571
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Speaker 12: Jimmy John's franchise hear here in New Orleans. We built

572
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 12: out this market about fifteen years ago, so I've always

573
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 12: loved the brand and it's been a great partnership. But

574
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 12: they're supporting our foundation. So actually for the entire month

575
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 12: of August, so all the way to August thirty first,

576
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 12: you can walk into with Jimmy Johns and just order

577
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 12: my favorite sandwich and they named that for me this month.

578
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 12: So you just say, I want to Breeze number nine,

579
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Speaker 12: And basically that's gonna be ham Capacola salami.

580
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Speaker 7: It's the Italian night club. All those lettuce, tomato onions.

581
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Speaker 12: You get to oil and vinegar, salt, pepper, the basil

582
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Speaker 12: o'regano mix.

583
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Speaker 7: But it's no cheese ad hot peppers.

584
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Speaker 12: That's the little, you know, the little extra that we're

585
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Speaker 12: throw in this to make it the Breeze number nine

586
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Speaker 12: and not just the number nine so, and all the

587
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 12: proceeds are going to the Breech String Foundation of British

588
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 12: and girls clubs around the country, So appreciate that.

589
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Speaker 2: With Jimmy Johnson, how do you know what to look

590
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Speaker 2: for or should we know what to look for with

591
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Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks in preseason?

592
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Speaker 12: Well, first thing I say is experience. I just take

593
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 12: obviously a ton of qbs have been you're after here

594
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 12: of the last you know, three years, you know, in

595
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Speaker 12: the first round so or four years so, First and foremost,

596
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Speaker 12: how many games? How many high level starts do they

597
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 12: have in college? And I think that makes a huge difference.

598
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Speaker 12: I think if you just start looking at, hey, the

599
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Speaker 12: guys that had forty fifty even six bone necks sixty

600
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Speaker 12: one starts in college, those guys come into the league

601
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Speaker 12: a lot more well prepared than the guys who, man,

602
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Speaker 12: there's a ton of talent, a ton of upside, a

603
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Speaker 12: ton of potential started fifteen games, started, seventeen games. There's

604
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Speaker 12: just you just need I think, I think forty to

605
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Speaker 12: fifty high level starts before you really kind of find

606
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Speaker 12: that that comfort level. And so if you do take

607
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Speaker 12: a guy like that, then it's going to take two

608
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 12: or three years. Obviously the team that you're part of,

609
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 12: the system that you're in that has that plays a

610
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 12: big role in it. But I think first and foremost

611
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Speaker 12: you have to look at experience and then how are

612
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Speaker 12: you building the system around him? What type of what

613
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Speaker 12: type of runway does he have in order to grow

614
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Speaker 12: and develop? You know, I think you looked at the

615
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 12: guy's probably who had the most success last year. Jade

616
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Speaker 12: Daniels bonis right. So those two examples. Jane Daniels Bunce

617
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Speaker 12: just starts at Arizona State, comes to LSU, bunch of

618
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Speaker 12: high level starts there, he comes to the league.

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Speaker 7: I think very well prepared.

620
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Speaker 12: Bo Neck sixty one starts right between Auburn and Oregon,

621
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Speaker 12: comes in fairly well prepared.

622
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Speaker 7: So I think that's a big that's a big factor.

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering how we're going to look at quarterbacks in

624
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Speaker 2: the future because Lamar Jackson could end up with ten

625
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Speaker 2: thousand rushing yards, which is unheard of. I mean for

626
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Speaker 2: a running back, ten thousand yards is a great career.

627
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, he could end up with eight thousand yards rushing.

628
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Speaker 2: You look at the number of touchdown Josh Allen's going

629
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Speaker 2: to end up with more rushing touchdowns than any other

630
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Speaker 2: quarterback in history.

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Speaker 4: He'll move past Cam Newton.

632
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Speaker 2: So I don't know how we everybody's thrown for a

633
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Speaker 2: lot of yards, but now you have this other category

634
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Speaker 2: in here, how will we differentiate or assess quarterbacks? You know,

635
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: bigger picture Hall of Fame wise, when you're adding something

636
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Speaker 2: that we really haven't seen the Michael Vick gave us this,

637
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Speaker 2: Steve Young, a little bit Cam Newton gave us. Now

638
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: it feels like, as Steve Young told me many times,

639
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: there's yards to get, Go get them.

640
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Speaker 4: If you're a quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's a great point.

642
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Speaker 12: It's a great point because I think when you start

643
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Speaker 12: talking about qvs in history and the comparisons, you immediately

644
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 12: go to the passing statistics, and obviously in today's game,

645
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 12: it's so much more than that. At the end of

646
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 12: the day, what's your job. Your job is to go

647
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 12: put your team in the end zone, and so however

648
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 12: you can do that, it doesn't matter whether it's through

649
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 12: the air or on the ground. I think that Steve

650
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 12: Young quote is a great one. There's yards to get,

651
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 12: you know, go get them. There's first downs to get,

652
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 12: go get them. So however, you can do that. That's

653
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 12: why the whole QB rating thing is always so wonky, right,

654
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 12: because it's like, well, how are we really evaluating the

655
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 12: efficiency or the productivity of a quarterback when you have

656
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 12: all these different layers to it. I mean, you should

657
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 12: have somebody sitting there going, man, he threw the ball away.

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Speaker 12: That was actually an incredible decision. That shouldn't work against

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Speaker 12: him on the QB rating. Right, So you have all

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Speaker 12: these factors and at the end of the day, did

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Speaker 12: you possess the ball, did you get first towns and

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Speaker 12: push team in the end zone? Did you score points?

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Speaker 12: Was that complimentary to your defense and that gets you

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Speaker 12: to win? I mean that's that's that's truly how you

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Speaker 12: should be evaluated.

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Speaker 2: Well, also, when you don't take a sack. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's like there's little things. I agreed QBR to me,

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. I want to know if you

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Speaker 2: won the game, it's the most important to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but they don't have a category.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Look, I think you actually brought up a

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Speaker 7: good point.

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Speaker 12: I think one of the greatest traits of a quarterback

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Speaker 12: that is never discussed, especially in the evaluation of it,

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Speaker 12: is their ability to avoid SAPs and avoid negative plays

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Speaker 12: that when you just look start looking at the probabilities

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Speaker 12: and the percentages of success on you know, third and

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Speaker 12: six versus third and ten, and just like your ability

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Speaker 12: to avoid negative plays, and a lot of times too

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Speaker 12: that could just be, Hey, I have a decision when

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Speaker 12: I walk up the line of scrimmage to run the

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Speaker 12: ball right, run the ball left, run it inside, to

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Speaker 12: run it outside. And the decision that you make, in

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Speaker 12: large part could be the difference between a two or

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Speaker 12: three yard gain or a one yard loss. And so

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Speaker 12: there's so many of these decisions that are made within

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Speaker 12: the framework of a game where if I'm evaluating qbs

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Speaker 12: and I'm sitting there watching the tape, I want to

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Speaker 12: know what type of decision maker they are, because if

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Speaker 12: they are making more good decisions, then good results will follow.

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Speaker 12: There's a lot of things that we can fix fundamentally

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Speaker 12: and whatever, Hey, you missed a throw, but you're true

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Speaker 12: to the right place and you're on time. That's fine,

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Speaker 12: we can fix that, right. But if you have a

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Speaker 12: great decision mate, and process, and you were consistently making

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Speaker 12: good decisions and you're avoiding sacks and you're putting yourself

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Speaker 12: in favorable positions, meaning high probability for success positions, then

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Speaker 12: you're gonna win a ton of games. And I think

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Speaker 12: when you really start to break it down, that's what

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Speaker 12: you're looking for.

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Speaker 4: Great to catch up with you again.

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Speaker 2: Hope the family's well, and good luck with Jimmy Johns

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Speaker 2: and Boys and Girls Clubs of America.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, DP.

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Speaker 2: That's a future Hall of Famer there, Drew Brees his

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Speaker 2: longest run twenty three yards. He ran for seven hundred

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Speaker 2: yards in his career. That's that's Lamar j That's a

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Speaker 2: down year for Lamar running. Buddy, wasn't paid, right, But

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Speaker 2: you weren't paid to run. You weren't paid to run.

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Speaker 2: You could have been elusive, right.

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Speaker 12: He move the chase, get your team, Okay, I'd much

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Speaker 12: rather throw it to the guys.

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Speaker 4: Could you outrun Peyton Manning?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely smoke him, crush him.

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Speaker 4: Could you outrun Tom.

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Speaker 7: He's all torso? Oh Brady, Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Brady would be at the twenty five yard line when

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Speaker 12: I crossed the forty?

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Speaker 4: Wow, how would you do against Lamar Jackson?

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Speaker 2: No, he would be at the forty You're still competitive?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Budding. We'll take a break more phone calls

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Speaker 2: and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show. Big matchup coming

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Speaker 2: up this weekend. You've got Clayton Kershaw, Max Scherzer, a

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Speaker 2: rare showdown of pitchers who have at least three thousand strikeouts.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time you had two pictures who were

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Speaker 2: in the three thousand strikeout club? Because justin Verlanders in

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Speaker 2: the three thousand strikeout club. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: faced off against either one of these guys. But do

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Speaker 2: we have a matchup of three thousand strikeout I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we do, But when's the last time that we had them?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Slide into the weekend starts tonight Shador Sanders taking on

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers Browns and the Panthers Lions Falcons. Commander's

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Speaker 2: Patriots so NFL Preseason. Devin mccordy, former Patriot, will join

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Speaker 2: us as we assess the games coming up this weekend.

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Speaker 2: The Links in the Liberty that's WNBA action, the Mets

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Speaker 2: against the Brewers. Brewers had won seventy games, seventy and

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Speaker 2: forty four. And well, have you have soccer too, You've

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Speaker 2: time we had a pair of pictures with at least

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Speaker 2: three thousand strikeouts facing off against one another?

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Speaker 5: The only fine September twenty twenty three Sus versus Verlander,

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Speaker 5: Oh okay. Also two in our game winners sures are

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Speaker 5: three Cy Young's Clayton Kershaw three.

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Speaker 2: Say Young, Zach and Minnesota Hi Zach. Thanks for holding

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Lauren Dan and Dan App six foot three, two fifty five.

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Speaker 8: How are you guys doing this morning?

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Speaker 4: Spectacular?

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Speaker 8: Awesome? Hey, I told Tyler my call in about a question,

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Speaker 8: but I'm gonna throw a couple of things at you

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Speaker 8: to start happy. Gilmour too loved it, loved the caterpillar

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Speaker 8: that you had on your left. That mustache was brilliant.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, and you should rock that thing more often.

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Speaker 8: So this could be a poll question for you guys,

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Speaker 8: which NFL coach do you trust more to win the

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Speaker 8: Super Bowl this year? We're gonna go with Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 8: Jim Harbaugh, Dan Campbell, and then I'm gonna throw in

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Speaker 8: a caveat of Sean Payton. He's already won one, but

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Speaker 8: he's now obviously in Denver. So I wanted to throw

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Speaker 8: that at you guys.

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's not necessarily the coach, Thank you, Zach.

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Speaker 2: I mean you got to have the roster because we

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Speaker 2: saw what happened to Detroit when they lost Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how good Dan Campbell is as a coach,

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Speaker 2: he can't replace Aiden Hutchinson. That's I would go with.

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Speaker 2: Give me the coach who has the best roster, the

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Speaker 2: healthiest roster. Yeah, Jim Harball just lost his starting left tackle.

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton has high hopes for the Broncos. And bo Nicks,

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Speaker 2: and it feels like there's members of the media who

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Speaker 2: are looking at the Broncos and saying it's more than

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Speaker 2: just a playoff team. Todd has his Bronco Is that

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Speaker 2: a sweatshirt? On?

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Speaker 4: Today?

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Speaker 10: I ordered this when Russell Wilson first came to Denver.

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Speaker 10: I got all excited. I thought this was going to

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Speaker 10: be the third quarterback to lead Denver to a Super

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Speaker 10: Bowl title with Manning in Lway. So basically it shows

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Speaker 10: Russell Wilson like arm in arm with Manning and Lway,

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Speaker 10: like they're the big trio of Super Bowl Bronco champions,

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Speaker 10: which obviously did.

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Speaker 4: Not play on that one. Sorry about that.

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Speaker 2: Anne in Wisconsin. Hi Anne, Good morning. What's on your

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Speaker 2: mind today?

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Speaker 13: Happy meat Friday?

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Speaker 1: Dan.

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Speaker 13: I know how much you've love, loved, so I wanted

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Speaker 13: to share this story. My husband, head basketball coach Matt

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Speaker 13: Hockett at UWSP, got me tickets for tonight's show in

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Speaker 13: Wisconsin in Milwaukee for Darius Rutger, and on the ticket

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Speaker 13: it says that he is performing with a special guest.

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Speaker 13: I just need to confirm that it's not going to

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Speaker 13: be Todd Forritt.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's not going to be Todd, right, Todd,

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Speaker 4: it is not.

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Speaker 10: So she's trying to say that she's going to cancel

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Speaker 10: going to the event if I'm the special.

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Speaker 4: She just wanted to make sure that she was kind

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Speaker 4: of geared up correctly.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it was a shot.

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Speaker 10: So she's like hoping, are.

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Speaker 4: You making fun of Todd? Ann?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 13: Never, never, I wouldn't want.

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Speaker 2: To do that. And can you have Tyler put you

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Speaker 2: on hold? And I want to get your number. Would

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Speaker 2: you guys like to meet Darius before the show tonight?

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Speaker 13: Oh my gosh, that would be a dream come true.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, you stay on hold and then I'll

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Speaker 2: get your number and then let me see if I

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Speaker 2: can get you backstage to meet Darius.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Tom, you are a stud.

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Speaker 10: You just make dreams come true, like you know, you

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Speaker 10: just pull these things out of a hat.

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Speaker 4: That's very nice, thank you. And I'm a journalist.

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Speaker 7: You're a journalist and a very thoughtful person and.

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Speaker 2: A gentleman and a gentleman and I love love. How

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Speaker 2: about we take a break. We got sixty more minutes,

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Speaker 2: let's go. It's the super Bowl, all right? To meet Friday,

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Speaker 2: don't be mailing it in. Come on, let's go. Come on,

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Speaker 2: here we go, on, let's go. All right,