WEBVTT - Carlos Santana 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.600 Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.840 Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runtog, but 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.080 enough about me. It's difficult not to get hyperbolic when 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.560 discussing my guest today. He first exploded onto the world 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.160 stage with a star making set at a little gig 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.280 called Woodstock in nineteen nine. In the half century since, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.759 he's redefined the electric guitar with a mix of virtuosity 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:29.480 and spirituality. Songs like Evil Ways, Oi, Come of a Soul, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:34.680 Sacrifice and Europa melded Latin melodies, jazz sensibilities and rock 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.320 soul in the way that no one had before, and 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.240 for my money, no one has since. Has A collective 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.280 career got a boost at the turn of the millennium 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.800 was Supernatural and Shaman, back to back albums that pairt 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.319 him with a diverse blend of contemporary artists. Now he's 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:51.839 back with a new album that's equally packed with friends. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.720 On Blessings and Miracles, he joins forces with icons like 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.760 Steve Winwood, Kirk Hammond, and Metallica jazz great Chick corea 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.840 legendary songwriter Diane Warren, as well as fresh faces like 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.920 Ali Brook, g Easy and Chris Stapleton. Among the many 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.600 standout tracks is Move, the album's lead single, which season 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.440 pair with Rob Thomas for the first time on record 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.760 since the ubiquitous and immortal smash Smooth. I'm so happy 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.200 to welcome the great Carlos Santana. I hope you enjoy 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:27.000 our conversation. Oh my goodness, I have so many things 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.640 I want to talk to you about, but first off, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.640 I gotta kick off with Blessings and Miracles. I am 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.800 such a huge fan. It is such an amazing album. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.880 Philip was such a cool, diverse group of artists. I 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.520 mean from G Eazy to Chris Stapleton to your old 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.720 friend Rob Thomas. I just wanted to start. How did 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:48.760 this begin for you? It began? Uh, let's see, probably 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:53.680 when I did forty nine songs in ten days, Rick Ruben, 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.840 and they were all African songs, and a lot of 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.200 them we did. They went on the album called Africa 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.320 Speaks with Weaka. But then some of them they went 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.520 a limbo and I grabbed three of those, which is 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:10.520 like America for Sale, uh, Peace, Power and Mother Yes, 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.560 and I put him in here. So but we morphed them. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.680 You know, we like everything like a tree that keeps expanding, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:23.639 you know. I submitted a request to God, the Sweet Baby, Jesus, 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.720 the universe, whatever you want to call it, but call it, 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.440 you know. And so it's a bit of request. I said. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.320 You know, when we did Africa Speaks, I knew there 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.280 was not a single within ten thousand miles, you know, 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:38.400 but it was okay. And so I said, well, now 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.280 I want to do something different. I wanted something more 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.040 like what we did supernatural. So I asked, I requested 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.320 in the office I think tank within people who worked 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:51.720 with me, give me the names of those sisters and 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.280 brothers who have their fings finger and the polls they 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.400 can get in the radio. And they said, oh, they 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.560 mentioned you know some here. They're about twelve of the 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.520 one of them was Chris Stapleton. And I said, oh, 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.760 and they go, but he plays you know, country music. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.640 I says, it's okay, you know, I can learn how 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.600 to play country music. Uh. So, I says, why don't 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.200 we call his manager and ask him if he would 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.520 be so gritious to ask Chris if he would have 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.760 eyes to write a song for us or with us, 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.880 you know, And that's how we started. You can put 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.280 it all this in a package. That divine intelligence was 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.960 orchestrating all of this to happen. Now, the artists I 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.240 have yet to meet in person or shakings in person, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.840 because we're living in this era now of you know, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.040 when I started, it was records and then there was 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.840 like eight tracks and casseettes and see these that and 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.720 now we zoom, you know, and we stream. And so 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.520 because of zoom and streaming, where we're able to be 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.840 in London or Kawai or Los Angeles or Sandra Fel 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.320 and do it all and you close your eyes and 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.200 we're you're right there anyway with them, you know when 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.760 you play. That wasn't tough for you not to have 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.280 to have that in person, you know, feeding off each 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.080 other's energy. That wasn't an issue. No, No, because I 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:14.360 was born with a really highly developed intense imagination, so 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.760 I can imagine them right next to me. I just 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.640 closed my eyes and I did. I hear the music, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.800 and I know where where to play and where you 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:28.200 know how much how much passion, intensity and fire to 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.880 put on each note. There was a interview you gave 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.800 recently where you were saying, you're talking about how all 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.960 of your playing, and all of your solo starts with 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.159 your breath, and you're breathing. I wanted to ask you 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.440 more about that because that that's so fascinating to me. Yes, 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.839 you know, I think if there was, I don't know 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.400 if they do this already at juillior school or any 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.479 school of music. The first lesson should be how to 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.680 breathe correctly? You know, how how to be conscious of 0:04:56.720 --> 0:05:01.240 your next breath, because that's where you find your identity, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:07.160 your your uniqueness, your authenticity, and your fingerprints. You know 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.120 it sound wise, h A lot of people sound like 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.760 a lot of people. Very few people sound like themselves, 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.279 you know, and that's because they don't know how to 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:20.039 breathe correctly? How did you discover this? Who did you have? 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.520 Somebody in part this to you or just from years 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:27.159 of doing it? My father and my mother taught me 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:33.320 how to uh feel it, how do how to how 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.360 to own it, how to be present and lucid and 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.880 in the first note in this moment in time, you know, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.719 I would I would say you know first as God 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.880 always that you know as well. My my mother and father, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.200 My father and mother, they were supreme instrumental and teaching 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:56.279 me how to have conviction and charisma and deep awareness 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:02.760 of confidence. Speaking of music being a family affair, I 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.000 know you have some family on this record. You have 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.200 your your partner Cindy, and your children Stell and Salvador 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.599 both on it as well. Uh. It must be so 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.520 fulfilling to have that kind of bond with with your children. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.160 I mean, how did they wind up on on this record? Again? 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.040 Devine intelligence, you know, sets up this. I heard his 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.240 song kind of floating up in the ether, you know, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.240 and I said, oh, this is the second time I 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.200 heard that kind of sort of I'm gonna share Salmon 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.040 and see if I see who that is, you know, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:33.120 so I should Salmon in my son's face appears and 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:37.360 I go, whoa, whoa, and I go, so I call, hey, Salvador, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.599 I said, you know, I found out that this is 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.160 your song. I can't stop playing it for the last 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.320 two days. I wonder if it's okay, if I can 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.120 put my guitar in the rest of the band in 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.960 there and put it on my album. And then I swear, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:07:02.840 I hear the silence allomside, I hear your kidding. I'm 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.440 not kidding, man, Please you know again, Okay, you know, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.200 that's that we talked about it. You know the same 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.080 thing with my daughter. You know, she's she sent me 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.480 this song. Uh, and and I couldn't stop playing it. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.200 It just sounded like I've been to Europe since nineteen 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.080 seventy and it's sounded like I was in Switzerland or 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.360 somewhere in Europe six o'clock in the morning, walking the streets, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.320 and it's just so hunting. So again, I said, sweet, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.200 I can't stop playing your song. Over and over. I 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.320 looked it, and I want to know if it's all 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.760 right for me to put my guitar in it and 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:41.600 put it on my album again, deep deep silence, and 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:46.040 then I here, are you kidding? I'm like, no, I'm 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.800 not kidding. I wouldn't kids like that. So you know 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.040 that's how it happened. Uh. There's defund intelligence who orchestrates 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:57.680 for all of this components, including uh personal family, to 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.320 present themselves in such a way that it's like a 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:07.680 divine buffet and just have fun gorging you so we 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:12.400 delight delightfulness. That must be so cool just to be 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.800 able to as a parent, to have the music of 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.800 your child be able to move you in that way. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.880 I mean, I'm not a parent, and I've never written 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.560 a song in my life, but I just imagine that 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.720 was gosbe such a fulfilling thing to know that that 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.120 that lives on. You've passed that on, You've given that 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.440 that gift to them, and they're paying it back to you, 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.520 and now you're all paying it back to all of us, 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.640 all of us fans listening. Yes, we decided a long 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.319 time ago by recognition that for us, it's not a job, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.160 a gift, or a profession. It's a way of life, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.240 you know, from my father took his father's father, you know, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:50.400 the same thing with my son, you know, So we 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.440 honor that it's a way of life to kind of 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:59.560 like a someone who sells faucets, but the water is 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.480 the same. People are thirsty, yeah, just you know, every 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:09.760 album is different, fast fast facets, you know. But but 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.840 what's got to be pure. It's gotta be good for you, 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.920 fresh and pure. And that's how I see music like 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:24.880 pretty much like Bruce Lee said, become water. Where is 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.880 the best thing that that someone who hears a song 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.920 of yours can say to you, to to to thank you. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.839 What what's the best way, What's what's something that somebody 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.960 can say to you that makes it all worthwhile. What 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.120 what you know, their their gratitude, their appreciation. Is there 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.040 one response that you're looking for when you play a 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:45.360 song for someone, when people say your music touched me 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.480 in the place I've never even touched before. I was 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:54.240 contemplating with intensity to commit suicide, and the melody of 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.640 your ropo or some ampatit took me into a place 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.280 outside my mystery, and I was able to I was 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.480 able to smile and cry at the same time. And 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:12.200 I knew that I was meaningful and magnificent, and I 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.839 was worthy of my own grace and my own life. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.800 And I can, and I too can participate in life 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:24.240 as a triumph, victory glory, not as a victim. So 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.600 they stopped, they stopped thinking like victims. It's really what 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.680 it is, you know. So the music music pulls people 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.520 out out of there a mental arrangement that you're not 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.160 happy and as you're miserable. That's the best thing that 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.160 people ever said to me, that music. And I hear 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.440 a lot, you know, especially nowadays, there's a lot of 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.719 people commuting suit with commutings with specially youngsters, you know, 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:49.199 So this music, especially this song with Ali Brook. If 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.679 you listened to the lyrics, that's exactly what about This 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:56.360 is a poster song for anti anti suicide. You know, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.720 if you get to the other side of the suicide, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:04.360 you will see that you are in our change and 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.360 you can create uh, miracles and blessings at a whole 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:23.720 lot of level beyond your mind's comprehension. What is it 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.960 about music that makes it such an effective medium for 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:35.240 transmitting energy, positivity, and strength and emotion. Sound residence, vibration 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:41.000 assaults all your senses and transmogrifies molecular structure. It gives 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.120 you chills, your hair stands up, tears start coming out, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.160 and you start dancing and you don't even know why, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.079 you know, and so music is kind of like the 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.520 left and right hand of God, sculpturing you to remember 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:04.040 who you really really are, not what indoctrination or world 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:09.800 programmation is, but actually being liberated from all that and 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:14.520 for you to remember and claim you are light, spirit, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:20.240 and soul, those elements that are in you, and you 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:24.240 are indestructible and immutable. You know, that's why music is 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.520 so powerful, because it reminds you I was making a 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:36.120 joke about Beethoven, you know, get out of your way, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:41.679 let God do it through you. You know that, you 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.480 know that's that's reutely what it is. But you know, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.480 like what you know, there's something about the inner voice 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:52.920 when with Claria tells you or invites you, uh to 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:57.199 stop investing emotionally on stupid stuff that is very limited, 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:07.800 you know, and and uh accept your totality, your absoluteness 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:13.560 and in shine and sore. Yeah, that's been a lot 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.599 hard for a lot of people to do in the 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.800 last eighteen months, just with everything going on in the world. 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.040 How have you been able to sort of stay ground 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:28.560 and keep an equilibrium throughout the last year and a half. Well, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.080 it's like passing through a movie theater and not going 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:37.600 in it and not watching that movie pretty much. It's incredible. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.120 You know, it's my choice. I mean, you can turn 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.319 off the TV and only watch basketball and only watch 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:48.160 you know, excellence, brilliance. You know, read books that remind 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:53.800 you of you know, uh, divine modum op a random 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.640 code of conduct, you know, and so you know, there's 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.360 there's very trying to true test that the things that 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:05.160 you can do to not invest emotionally and stupid stuff 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:11.000 is gonna hurt you and delay you'r date with date 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:16.680 with divine destiny every day. You know, I read that 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.160 you've been reading Joseph Murphy, the New Thought Minister has 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:25.000 written positive thinking books like Positive Mental Attitude. Who else 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.240 have you been reading lately? In uh? In Lockdown, it's 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.520 always Course of Miracles, the Auranta. You know. I take 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:37.520 certain things, certain passages from the Bible that are not 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.720 laced with Godzilla. You know, if there's Godzilla, then you 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:45.160 can keep that, you know, my Goddess light, love, compassion 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:50.880 and anything that anything that's promoting selling fear, that's Godzilla. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.920 And I don't I don't, you know, I respected, but 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.640 I leave it alone because it's not it's not for me. Uh. Well, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:04.480 I love when Jesus says, uh, God made you in 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:11.440 its own image. Uh. And so if you make the effort, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.240 you know, I love this. Someone said that if you 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.520 takes one step, God takes nine to meet you in 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:23.280 the middle. I like that. I like that a lot. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.280 I've never heard that. That's that's what's happening. If people 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.080 would only knew that, they wouldn't suicide as much, they 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:36.160 wouldn't yield to hurtful things, you know. Uh, And so 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.160 that's what I'm here, man, I'm here to promote blessings 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:45.280 and miracles from the point of elevating people to recognize 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:52.000 the value of their own gift, which is uh, light 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:56.000 and love and the blessings and miracles are within all 0:15:56.080 --> 0:16:00.920 of us. Yeah, exactly. No, I that that title really 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.920 resonated with me. I wanted to ask you more about 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:07.480 how you landed on that, because it does it that 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.280 that sense really abused the record what you just said. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.760 I mean, it really sort of kind of shines a 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.800 light on all of us to remind us that, you know, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.520 we are divine and that we are able to have 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.280 control over our own happiness in our own you know, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.000 on a day to day basis. But I do want 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.240 to ask you more about where that that those words 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:28.320 came from for you. Thank you for saying that. I 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:33.520 say as much as possible that heaven and happiness are 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:39.160 not at destination or a condition. It's a conscious choice daily, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.480 you know. So you and the old thing people used 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.760 to say, everybody wants to go to heaven, nobody wants 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.800 to die, you know, at least say that, and we say, 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.680 now I am mora alized than ever and I'm in 0:16:51.760 --> 0:17:00.880 heaven and I'm hired in an instruments. But how about that? Yeah, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.840 when you're when you're playing, when you're when you're making 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.960 your music, and when you're sharing your gifts, what do 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.640 you need to do anything special to get to that space? 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.120 Is there are there any kind of practices that you do? 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.320 Are there any kind of almost hesitate to call them superstitions, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:16.960 But is there something that you need to do to 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.520 get yourself to that mental space to be able to play? 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.960 Or is is is it really just something that you 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.040 can key in and out of. You're asking all the 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.840 supreme questions. Everyone has a ritual. Every single human being 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.639 has a ritual. Whether you're a housewife taking the kids 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.479 to a soccer practice, or the pope or you know, 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.879 or the basketball players. Everybody has a ritual. And so 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:42.600 I was telling people, you know, why people need a 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:46.000 ritual because it is a way to meet up WiFi, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:51.360 hook up to absoluteness and to titity, you know. And 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.520 what you're asking about when you take a solo, and 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.160 then after the solo, like what I did was silent pati. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.200 My headphones were like this, and you know they ended 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.359 happened to my forehead in the background because I was 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.880 moving around, but I didn't stop, and so I had 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.440 because I was more conscious of not having the headphones 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.760 fall off of me. I wasn't thinking about the song, 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.720 and my fingers just did it, you know. So when 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.679 I was when the song was fading out, everybody in 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.880 the everybody in a studio with their mouth was opening. 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:29.639 They were going, damn, did you hear what you did? Man? 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:34.520 And I'm like, what was it? Good? You know, because 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.000 to enter the state of grace, you cannot remember it 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:44.000 after you do it. If you do, probably not that good. Yeah. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.560 So so we invite people to learn like you learn scales, 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.480 records and theory, and learn how to get in it, 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:59.439 how to get into that state of grace. Uh they 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:05.320 as they say nowadays, in an organic way. Never Dad, 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.280 oh Man, you hear it again and again on this album. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.439 So many incredible tracks. I mean, I I loved your 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.720 work with Kirk Hammond on America for Sale. That's that's 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.400 such an amazing song. I heard this story. I don't 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.360 know if this is true. Did he bring Greeny? Did 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.199 he bring Pretty Green's guitar? Yeah? You know, Greeny Greeny, 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.720 and you know, we go back to seventy when Peter 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.560 Green used to come over and hang out with us, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.760 you know, and he let me touch it, you know 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.720 once in a while and he let me excuse you, 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.520 expression you let me smell it and touch it, you know. 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:42.240 And I knew that that guitar was like Merlin's uh 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:47.960 what do you call it? Caliber? Yeah, Sally exactly. You know, Yeah, 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:49.639 he brought it, let me let me play it again, 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:55.000 and uh, you know, I miss Peter Green so much 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.200 and Michael Bloomfield so much, and of course the one 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.760 where we all got it from just be the King, 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.040 you know, he said, uh, he's the one that created 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:10.800 the template, you know, bb King and Auber King and 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:15.840 Freddie King, you know old kings, you know. Uh So, anyway, 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.560 being with Kirk and we were having fun because I 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.520 said this to air Clapton one time when we did 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.640 a Supernatural. I said, hey man, we're just gonna you're 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.040 gonna have a conversation, all right, We're not gonna do 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.040 We're not gonna do dueling banjo's. And he started cracking 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.720 apt douling banjos because I've never heard that before. Because 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.960 you're right, We're not gonna do doling banjo fain. We're 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.480 gonna have a conversation, you know. So it's the same 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.320 thing with Kirk. And Kirk came out smoking man. He 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.320 came out like a gun slander man. I was like, 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.800 oh ship, you know. So I had to square myself up, 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.919 you know, uh and keep up with his youngster, you know, 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.520 because the stuff that he was putting put putting down 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.200 was very vibrant, very very uh, you know, very fiery. 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.480 So we had a ball, you know, and especially you 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.680 know Mark. Um. I said, well, listen, we're we're gonna 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.320 call this other artist. I won't tell you who because 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.080 I don't want to get any problem. But he couldn't 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.600 do it, or he didn't want to do it or whatever. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.480 So I said, um, Kurt, do you know anybody who 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.240 can sing this song? Because the one that we called 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:21.640 he for some reason, he's not calling back. And he goes, yeah, 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.119 I got just the right guy. And he's a it's 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.199 a good friend of mine. So with Marcus, a get up, 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.480 and you know, I wanted something like because I love 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.280 Metall like an ac DC, you know, I like that 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.280 kind of energy, and let's separate you know, uh, you 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.760 know I want that kind of yeah, you know that 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:45.240 kind of you know. And and so so after Marcus 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.360 to get us sing the first layer, you know, like 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.399 America for sales, So I go, hey, man, can you 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:54.640 sing it higher and more? Like mean like he goes, oh, yeah, 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.520 no problem, you know. And so when I hear it, 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.560 I go like, man, we you know, I am so 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.800 great that we found the singer who could do the 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.919 two dimensional, the three dimensional thing and four dimensional thing 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:09.679 um act with actives, you know, and believable because his 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:13.440 his stuff is believable. Believable. You know. That's a bad. 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.000 So we're not we're talking about doing another album, all 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.399 three of us, you know, but we're about doing an 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:22.720 album with Eric Clapton Derrek Trucks in the Mexican about 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.840 UFOs and Western music kind of like Good Bad and 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:33.240 the Ugly No No No singles, just instrumentals. I told 0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.800 us to Eric, and he says, I mean I want 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:37.439 to do that, you know. So so we want to 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.040 enter a place where his Aero Clapton Derrick Trucks in 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:51.520 Santiana doing soundtrack soundtrack for spaghetti movies and UFOs. How 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.720 have you started on that yet that sounds incredible. So 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.840 you know I gotta no, I gotta submit the moths 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.720 to them, you know, I just want to you know, 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.439 I don't want tell anybody what to do or anything, 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:05.600 but you know, you you you submit certain places, certain 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:09.399 ponds that we can spawn. How do you do that 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.760 when you're when you're um setting a mood for somebody 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.239 for what you want? I mean, do you do? You 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.320 send them words, you send them images, you send them 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:22.240 other sounds or or some combination they're in. I send 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.960 them a mood basically like an eight bar mood. You know, 0:23:25.040 --> 0:23:28.040 you look, you loop apart from something that you love. 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.840 You know, there's a lot of groups that I love, 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:35.480 for Miles Davids or The Doors, you know, or Eddie Candricks, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.640 you know, from Marken Gay. You don't take the whole song. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.040 You just say certain eight bars and you say, okay, 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.680 jump on top of this and make it north southeast 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.439 and west and this eight bars. Man, you know, like 0:23:48.160 --> 0:24:02.280 what I meant to say this earlier, I loved what 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:06.400 you did with Wider Shade of Pale. Compotally reinvented that song. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.160 I mean, you and Steve Win, what I mean, see 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.800 Win was one of my favorite vocalists ever. I love 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.760 what you did with that track. It's was such It's 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:15.639 one of my favorite tracks on the album. It sounds 0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.480 so great. Thank you for saying that, you know it's 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:24.400 it's really impressive to me that that I requested him. Uh, specifically, 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.639 I said, Stevie, I hear you singing why do shade 0:24:27.640 --> 0:24:31.159 of Pale and Daniel Oregon? But when I want us 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:36.160 to do it like African Cuban and Puerto Rican wahita 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:45.479 really sexy, sexy, sexy, but do do do do sex? 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:48.480 You know what? I And he was like, first he 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.040 wouldn't look at me, just kept looking at Gary Clark. 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.480