1 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Zam. I'm kind DOWNI Stephens, Brian Sexton, 2 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: and John Osier are with me on Victory Monday. It's 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: been a while since we've gotten to say that for 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, as they've had that losing skid, but they 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: finally got a win, and they got a win over 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: the Titans this week. So let's start out with our 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: big things. Big thing Number one is finally at the 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: beginning of that game was not pretty. It wasn't good 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: football to watch, but the win is a win. 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's really hard to win in 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: the NFL, and I've learned that the hard way, and 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: I've always, you know, followed that mantra of just the 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: win's a win, and you can play really well and 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: lose and play not so good and win, and it 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: just takes that from one or two plays each game. 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: So I told the young guys that that's the learning 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: lesson here. And I feel like we played with a 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: little bit more slag today and I know we're gonna 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: continue to do that offense, even special teams. 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: We're not gonna be scared. 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna keep that going. 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: Frans doesn't essentially change the outlook of the season. But 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: it is nice to win, and it's nice to recap 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: after a win. 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nice to have a little juice in the building, right. 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: I mean it's not the same energy as if you're 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: playing meaningful games that all have significance in the standings, 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: But everybody comes in with a little bit less anxiety, 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: with a little bit more energy. For John and I 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: for you in the locker room to talk to a 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: guy who's got the little brighter eyes and isn't so 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: quick to want to walk away because he didn't want 33 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: to talk about what happened last week. All of this 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: gives them, I think enough energy and momentum. You have 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: the Jets, the Raiders, the Titans, and the Colts. Now, 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: the Colts are a team that is playing into the 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: final few weeks with a shot. They're on the fringe 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: of being a playoff team. But you should be able 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: to if you're properly motivated and energized, go play your 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: best football on Sunday against the Jets and see if 41 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: you can build a little something. 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 4: John. 43 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: That's what a win means when you get one, especially 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: at the end like they did yesterday, where they had 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: to win it in. 46 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 4: The fourth quarter. 47 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of thoughts. 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 6: First off, we know Mac Jones has guts because he 49 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 6: can pull off that outfit and it was absolutely Hey, 50 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 6: all hail Mac. 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: What you realize or what I realized in the locker room. 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 6: It's easy to forget when you're analyzing what's going wrong, 53 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 6: and when you're in the middle of a disappointing season 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 6: and you and I, Brian Kai, we start thinking. We 55 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 6: started thinking about the long term and what it means. 56 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 6: It's easy to forget that these guys are players and 57 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 6: they want to win. And the joy for Tank Bigsby, 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 6: for Josh Allen Doug talked about it. 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 5: That's real stuff. I get that'll. 60 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 6: Win after you're eliminated in a way, it doesn't feel 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 6: like a win, but for a day, you know, let 62 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 6: him enjoy good for that. 63 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Our big thing. Number two is worse. 64 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 6: Now. 65 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I mentioned that was not a great football game to watch. 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: There was not a lot of good fundamentals out there. 67 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: But Daguar's not good. Titans are and it's always good 68 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: to beat the Titans. 69 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 7: This is a robbery game, you know, this is a 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 7: rib game, you know what I mean? So like, hopefully 71 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 7: I don't. I don't know if they told him that 72 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 7: before the game, but I know our message before the 73 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 7: game was this is a robbery game, so where way 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 7: you need to feel to get that energy, to get 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 7: that aggression up, that the type of game was gonna be. 76 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 7: And you could tell there was that type of energy. 77 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: John only got a cameo from me in the back there. 78 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I know you heard it live. It's a little different 79 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: when you play the Titans, even in a season like this. 80 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, and for it's for clarification, I was a little 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 6: mad because Josh was wearing my I got it back 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 6: after the game. I had on the team fights. All's good. Yeah, 83 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 6: And again with Josh it was I think the theme 84 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 6: in the locker room was just that that he had. 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 6: I think the best quote, and I'm paraphrasing, it's good 86 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: to feel this way, because I didn't want to feel 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: sad anymore, and I. 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: Thought that really some. 89 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I don't think anything that 90 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 6: happened yesterday will be remembered in the long run. I'm 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: not sure that they built toward that much, and I'm 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 6: not sure that a lot of the guys playing will 93 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 6: be you know, I don't know what the future is, 94 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 6: but they got that win. And I do think for 95 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 6: some of these young guys, getting a couple down the 96 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 6: stretch matters because he got to feel it. And I 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 6: know fans have heard that before, but I think it's 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 6: still true. 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: I would agree completely that those guys Brian Thomas Junior, Tank, 100 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: big speed, Brenton Strange, we can keep going. The roster 101 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: has a lot of young players that need to feel 102 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: the success. I say the Jaguars were supposed to be 103 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: better than the Titans this year. We expected that they 104 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: would be better than the Titans this year. Will Levis 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: in his first full season as the starting quarterback. 106 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 4: There. 107 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 3: You know, they changed from Derrick Henry. They did have 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: a very good defensive front. But the Jaguars, other than 109 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: the early going where they couldn't stop the run, the 110 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: Jaguars were able to, sort of outside of their own mistakes, 111 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: got to dictate the pace of action. They didn't let 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: the Titans get away from them, and when they had 113 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: to turn it on, absolutely had no other choice. They 114 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: went down the field twice in the fourth quarter to 115 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: win the ball game. I can tell you this, the 116 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: people in Tennessee this morning are wondering what's up, where 117 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 3: they're at, where they're headed. You know, the Jaguars know 118 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: they're going to get Trevor Lawrence back next year and 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: at least have their quarterback in place. I think Tennessee's 120 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: got some more work to. 121 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Do there, Brian, you touched on some of this. We'll 122 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: do our final big thing, which is good enough. They 123 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: didn't play great, obviously, but they were good enough to 124 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: get a win. And we did see certain players shining 125 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: and certain players playing well, whether it was Brian Thomas 126 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: Junior or Tank Bigsby Brian, there were several different players 127 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: that we saw kind of come into their own when 128 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: they need to. 129 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior is a guy that you can't throw 130 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: the ball to enough, and I know that's been a 131 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: storyline for weeks. And Doug Peterson said in his postgame 132 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: with Bucky Brooks and the radio yesterday that they made 133 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: the decision at halftime that they were really going to 134 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: force it. The question why didn't you do that in 135 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: the first half? Of course, Doug joked about that, and 136 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: there are circumstances and situations that prevent that from happening. 137 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: But the more success that Brian Thomas Junior has the 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: more success tank. Biggsby is going to have that Brenton 139 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: Strange is going to have. When you have that one 140 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: guy John who opens everything up, then Mack has many, 141 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: many more options. It'll help the offensive line play better 142 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: when the ball is getting out quickly, going down the field, 143 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: stretching things, and of course when the offense is able 144 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: to sustain a drive. The defense you noticed yesterday almost 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: split time of possession for the first time in a 146 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: long time. Everything is better when those young players are 147 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: having success. 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they tried to get the ball to 149 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: BTJ early. 150 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 6: I think that was one of the ones that Matt 151 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: got picked on, and then they didn't have a ball 152 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: frankly a whole lot in second quarter. So it's the 153 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 6: old thing where it's hard to get the ball when 154 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 6: you're not in the flow and their team has the 155 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 6: ball all the time. I thought along these same lines, 156 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 6: Jaron Jones, if you're looking for guys who are starting 157 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 6: to show that they can be something to build around, they. 158 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: Don't win that game. 159 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 6: If he doesn't play the way he did in the 160 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 6: second half, two pass breakups, the sack, He looked like 161 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 6: an edge rusher, there's something about him. Ventre Miller, guys 162 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 6: like that who play with a passion that it's hard 163 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: to not see them being the building blocks of this 164 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 6: thing going forward. 165 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the young defensive tackles too. 166 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: Of me, Mason Smith has played a lot the last 167 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: two weeks and he's been reached a couple of times. 168 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: But I also saw him yesterday moving guys in the pocket, 169 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: which is something they desperately need. The presence in the middle. 170 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: There's a lot of young players to be excited about. 171 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 3: Yesterday was good for all of them. 172 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely, stay with's here on jag zonn We're going to 173 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: go over the tape on Victory Monday. Register your furry 174 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: friend for the Dagwars Official Four Legged Fan Club for 175 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: Pats presented by Forever at the Animal Hospital. 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But we're gonna start there 186 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: so that we know what was good in the second half. 187 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: So Mac Jones had two interceptions in that first half, 188 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I mean the Titans and score tons, So it wasn't 189 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: a huge thing, but obviously never want to see interceptions there. 190 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: He's trying to force the ball at that point, and 191 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: I was a little concerned that we were. 192 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: Going to happy. 193 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're trying to force the ball deep 194 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: there and Mac is standing in the pocket. I thought 195 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: he should have gotten rid of it about a second 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: before he did. He took a shot just as he 197 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: was releasing it, and I'd have to go back and 198 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: ask him about it, but it seemed to me like 199 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: if you got rid of it just a little more 200 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: decisively right there, he hits Brian a thirty yard line 201 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: and Brian has a chance to get to the outside. 202 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't a great throw. 203 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 6: It looked like Brian might have stopped short a little bit. 204 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: I have no idea that might yeah, And I think 205 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 6: it was also third down, so there was a little 206 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: bit of a throw it up and make something happen, 207 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: or you know, you don't lose that much field position. Look, 208 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 6: it's it's uh, it's not gonna be a great offense, 209 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 6: so we should And I think Max's point that he 210 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 6: made on the podium was very interesting. When I asked him, 211 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 6: he told me his great question, by the way, which 212 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 6: I meant, were you the great question? 213 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: Excellent? 214 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 6: Was? Was I the great question? But he said that 215 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: in the first couple of games that he played, he 216 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: had bad first half and he let it affect him. Uh, 217 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 6: he said he went around and told everybody, Hey, that's 218 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 6: not happening today. So credit to him because he wasn't 219 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 6: great in the first half, and he was a lot 220 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 6: better than the second. 221 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about that second interception and 222 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: then that play right before the end of the half, 223 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: because they were trying to score before the half. And 224 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: then you're looking at this, it's kind of scrambling around. 225 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: His feet are caught up, and obviously I've not ever 226 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: been in that situation. I'm sure it's very difficult to 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: make a decision, But you're like, no. 228 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 6: Why I was hoping Brian that his decision would be 229 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 6: to lose six yards right, so we could see Cam 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 6: a little go for sixty seven, you would have put him. 231 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: Out there for sure. 232 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 6: That almost happened. Yeah, and I'm kidding, but I ended 233 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 6: up point now with Cam, we're at. 234 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 5: The end of halves. 235 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: When they get around that fifty, I'm kind of hoping 236 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 6: the measurement works out to saying he can hit it. 237 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: It's easy to say that you'd like him just to 238 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: understand the circumstance and go down and not throw the 239 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: ball up like that. But do you have any doubt 240 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: that Patrick Mahomes would have made that throw as well? 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he does it all the time. The difference 242 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: is he's throwing it to Travis. 243 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: Kelsey, who's catching it? Yeah, who's catching it there? 244 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: But then with the one second on the clock as well, 245 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: because that led to this play which if you guys 246 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: watch call football on Saturday, it looks very reminiscent of 247 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: what happened to George's quarterback at halftime of their game, 248 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: which he got lit up as Josh Heinelan, who talked 249 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: about this after the game, said, Oh, no one's gonna 250 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: chip me. I'm just I can just run and this 251 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: was the result. 252 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: Josh's line was funny there too. 253 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: He goes. 254 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 6: He was saying, I guess they trusted. 255 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: Boy, Yeah, you know, and he trusted his line and 256 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't expect it. 257 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: This is where you think that sometimes some of these 258 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: young coaches think it's Madden. 259 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: Hey we got a second left, let's throw it up. 260 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: And throwing it up you put your quarterback into why not. Yes, 261 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: you don't do this. 262 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: You're just you're taken me and you go into halftime, 263 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: you're leading three to nothing. 264 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: You regrow up and try to get better. That's not 265 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 4: a video game coach. 266 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: So will Ovis is playing with an ac joint sprain. 267 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: He's been playing with that and I'm sure that did 268 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: not help. But he did come back and play in 269 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: the second half of this game, and when we saw 270 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: the defense kind of turned up a little bit. Obviously, 271 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure Josh Seck juice them up. But Darrin Jones, 272 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: we talked about John has a pass breakup and then 273 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: his sack as well, excuse me, his flit sack as well. 274 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: He had a day. 275 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: He was all over the place. 276 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and again, some guys are football players, right and 277 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 6: puts themselves in position to make plays breaks on the ball. 278 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 6: He says something interesting in the post game. After about 279 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 6: week four or five, he started to get used to 280 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 6: the pace of the game. And when that happens, now 281 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 6: you can let your instincts take over. That's a huge sack. 282 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 6: It gets them the ball back. And then he comes back 283 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 6: and he has two pass breakupup two pass breakups in 284 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. He was out there having fun playing 285 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 6: in the backyard and that's always fun. And he's a 286 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: guy that can do that. And Doug mats after the 287 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 6: game he got down, he had some bend on that 288 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 6: pass rush. 289 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 5: Maybe he's the third pass rush. 290 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: He's one of those guys along with Inn trel Miller. 291 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: We talked about him, all those young guys. But he's 292 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 3: a guy with a lot of potential to be that 293 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: guy in the middle of that, to be the nickel 294 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: guy next year. I mean, he's strong, he can blitz, 295 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: he can play the run, and more than that, he's tough. 296 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: He's willing to put his nose in there and mix 297 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: it up. We saw that with Trevor. 298 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, and as might be expected with a young corner. Hey, 299 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 6: could he play outside? I have no doubt he could 300 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 6: play outside. But nickel in this league now is really 301 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 6: a starting position, and it's a position where it's really 302 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 6: hard to find guys who are aware enough of everything 303 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 6: going on around him. To me, that blitz and the 304 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 6: maybe shows you that he needs to be the nickel 305 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 6: and not worry so much about, you know, should he 306 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 6: have the glamour of playing on the outside. He feels 307 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 6: like a nickel back to me, and that's a compliment absolutely. 308 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk about two of those other guys we've been 309 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: talking about, Brian Thomas Jr. And Tank, because they kind 310 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: of led to that one scoring drive that the Jaguars 311 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: has one touchdown drive that they had this broken down play. 312 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: Mac Jones said, maybe I should have thrown it earlier, 313 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: but it all worked out in the end. And Brian 314 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Jor just showing this was after they've been kind 315 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: of force feeding him the ball in the second half, 316 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: really got him going and he's just a difference maker 317 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: when he had the ball in his hands. 318 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 4: Well, that goes to what John was. 319 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: You're saying, this is not going to be a good 320 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 3: offense the rest of the way. They're gonna have to 321 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 3: ham an egge it a little bit and play backyard football, 322 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what this is, and it shows you 323 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: the instincts of Thomas to be available for his quarterback. 324 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 4: And Max's not a guy that gets out of the 325 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: pocket a lot, so he was waiting for the opportunity. 326 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes it's not about scheme or play calling. It 327 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 6: was funny Mac after the game sort of chastised himself, 328 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 6: I should have out the pocket, your boy. Gene Fournett 329 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 6: correctly pointed out that him leaving the pocket was what 330 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 6: drew Ard and Key in, so they really didn't have 331 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 6: that much of an idea what was going on. And 332 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: that's okay because they made plays in the moment, and 333 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: a credit to him and credit BTJ again for being 334 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 6: aware enough to make that play happen. 335 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Also, as much as we talk about BTJ, it really 336 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: opens things up for Tank. Whenever Tank plays well and scores, 337 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: the team seems to win. So that's a nice combination. 338 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: We can get the running game going, get Tank going 339 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: as well, and then finally, well, the Titans did have 340 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: a chance at this. They had two chances. I'm going 341 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: to show you the first one because the second one 342 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: wasn't as fun. They were about to score and couldn't 343 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: get it done, and it was nice to see the 344 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: defense come through on that. Calvin Ridley obviously with a 345 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: big catch and kind of then his going out of 346 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: bounds as well. I mean, I don't know if his 347 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: momentum would have allowed him to turn around anyway, but 348 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: he kind of went out before they got the could 349 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: get the first down at the goal near the goal line, 350 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: I think it was at the two. They could have 351 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: gotten a first down these new downs, and he didn't 352 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: get there very subtly. 353 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 6: I thought Trayvon kind of made that play. He was 354 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 6: over there and so he got his hands up. Levis 355 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: had to throw here about a second late. I think 356 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 6: people up there were sort of criticizing Calvin. 357 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he could have turned at that point. 358 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, tough. 359 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: I go back to what he said to me in 360 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 4: Dallas last preseason. You know how good I am, right, and. 361 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 6: I'm sure he's that good. I don't know if he's 362 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 6: that good. 363 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: Listen, you say it, you better be able to play 364 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: it right there, and he. 365 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: Didn't, and then I couldn't get it done on that. 366 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: They also had that four down sequence in the first half, 367 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: which was a little questionable as well, And it's nice 368 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: to be on the other side of us for once. 369 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: It's very good. 370 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: Even after that, you kind of had to hold your 371 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: breath because. 372 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit, because I gave the ball right 373 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: free and. 374 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 4: Out and put it right back. 375 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: But that's where the Jaguars defense made enough place that 376 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: they had not been able to do it. Remember the 377 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: Packers game, right game is tied, you're thinking, all right, 378 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: there's an opportunity here, and they gave up the big 379 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: play down the field. 380 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: Yesterday they didn't give up the place. 381 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 6: One play we didn't touch on too that led to 382 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 6: the fourth down was when Trayvon almost killed the running back. 383 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I thought that was as good a play the 384 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: game as there was. 385 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it sort of forced it. So again it's 386 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 6: one of those we need more guys around here who 387 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 6: make that big play in the big moment. Not a 388 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 6: lot of players in the NFL could have. 389 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: Made that play. 390 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: If that game goes to ten nothing at that point 391 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: because Pollard scores. 392 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: You don't know that you get. 393 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 6: The chance, you don't. 394 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: All right, stay with this, we'll give your hot takes 395 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: coming up after the break. 396 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 5: Nap move the freight moves. 397 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: The freight Magellan Transport go to the coolest office space 398 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: in jacksonvill You can apply on line at Magellanlogistics dot com. 399 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 400 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: I think just as the game went on, he did 401 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: a good job getting opened. 402 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: He was open all game. 403 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: But I just kind of have to hive him the 404 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: ball earlier and let him settle in. You know, as 405 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: a rookie, I've been there, you want to get to 406 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 2: get some catches, get going feeling good. And all the 407 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: other guys too like that. They're making plays and running 408 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: backs and tank on that touchdown and stuff. So we 409 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: just got to find a way to feel a little 410 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: bit more consistent. But like I said, we didn't roll 411 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: over and quit this time, and that's important. 412 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag Zam this morning on Victory Monday, 413 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do our fire house sub hot takes. 414 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm going first because Mac Jones talked a little bit 415 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: about it. Game plan, strategy, minds, a blister hot take, 416 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: go for it. They should keep throwing the ball to 417 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: that number seven guy. 418 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 4: He's good. 419 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I know you all have been saying this for weeks, 420 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: and I know you're dying and you're pulling your hair 421 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: out because you wish they did this two months ago. 422 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: But Brian Thomas Junior is special. Doug Peterson said, they 423 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: made a point in the second half to go to 424 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: him no matter what and kind of force feed him 425 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: the ball. And this is the result. I mean, it 426 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: was not pretty, but they got to win out of it, 427 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: and they got Brian Thomas Junior going. And if this 428 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: offense is going to be anything going forward this season 429 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: next season as well, they need to develop him, continue 430 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: to get him better and showcase his skills. And it's 431 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: good to see it. 432 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: You know. 433 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: Doug probably was a little tongue in cheek talking to 434 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: Bucky afterwards where he intimated, well, you know, maybe everyone 435 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 3: else is smarter than us. 436 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: They know to get the ball to him. 437 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: It's just that the practicality of a football coach comes 438 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: in in first place. He's like, look, if they've got 439 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: double coverage over here and we've got a guy over here, 440 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: you know, let's take what we can get, especially with 441 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: an offense john that's been struggling. So I think the 442 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: point that he really could have made a little bit 443 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: better is the hell with it, no matter what, throwing 444 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: it down at right. 445 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it makes frankly a little more sense now 446 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 6: in week five, you had Gabe Davis and Christian Kirk 447 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 6: playing who whatever the production of Gabe Davis. He was 448 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: a starter, So you're trying to get the ball everybody. 449 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior much like you, Jarion Jones, whatever was 450 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 6: said about him during the draft. This kid is a 451 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 6: rare combination of elite. 452 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: Ability. 453 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 6: There's really nothing he lacks, and he's a player like 454 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 6: a lot of these guys come into the league when 455 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 6: they have Brian Thomas I mean Brian Tomas Junior's skill 456 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 6: set and they lack that awareness. 457 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: He would be good. 458 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 6: If he was slightly less skillful, because he's a very 459 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: good player in. 460 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: Terms of mental John, what's your hot take for us? 461 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 5: Off to read it? 462 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 6: Good for these yeah, and good for these guys. Isn't 463 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 6: good for a good guy meaning Mac Jones? Oh look, 464 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 6: I don't necessarily, I don't believe that Mac's destiny is 465 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 6: to be a ten year starter in the NFL. I 466 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: do believe his destiny is to be a fifteen year 467 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 6: player in the NFL or as long as he wants to. 468 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 6: Because he's a great guy to have around. He's going 469 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 6: to be prepared. He can get you. You know, if 470 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 6: he was playing for a really really good team, which 471 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 6: guess what, right now, he's not. He could be a 472 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 6: backup and get you two and two when the starter 473 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 6: is hurt for four games. That's what you want from 474 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: a backup and handles it well, cares about it. One 475 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 6: for his hometown team. Good. As I said earlier in 476 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 6: the show, this is not going to be something that 477 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 6: we look back on and say this changed the trajectory 478 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 6: of the franchise. Yeah, no, but good for these guys. 479 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 6: There's a bunch of good guys in. 480 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: This locker room. 481 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 6: They want to win. It was fun to be around it. 482 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: If it changes the trajectory of Mac Jones staying in Jacksonville, sure, 483 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: I'd be all for that. 484 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 4: I love that guy. I love the suit. 485 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 3: I just love the quiet, understated swagger that he brings. 486 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 4: He's fun. 487 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: I like happy Mack and oh yeah, a win will 488 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: make I think everybody in this building looks happier. So 489 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: that's good. Say with us here, we'll talk to you 490 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about what's one. Oh shoot, I'm sorry. 491 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 4: Hold on. It was the hottest of all the hottest. No, 492 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm kidding. This is gonna be the best show. 493 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just there was a lot of chattery yesterday 494 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: social media post about how the Jaguars blew the draft 495 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: by winning the ball game yesterday. I think Adam Schefter 496 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: had something out and they went from first overall to fifth. 497 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: Who cares. I get the Travis Hunter thing. 498 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: I'd like to have him here too, But for all 499 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 3: the reasons that we've espoused here today, the Tank, Big SPI's, 500 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: the Jari and Jones, the Ventrel Millers, the Brian Thomas juniors, 501 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: all those young guys, they've. 502 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 4: Got to have some success at the end of the year. 503 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: They need to play their best football. 504 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: These last four games are very important for young players 505 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: for time on task and when you can do. 506 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: It with a little bit more juice and a little 507 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 4: bit more energy. 508 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: It means that the reps at the end of the 509 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: year will be more valuable to them, and you want 510 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 3: that going into next April and the offseason more than 511 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: you worry about whether you're picking first or fifth or 512 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: seventh or whatever it is. 513 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 6: I've always thought too, Brian, it's sort of a silly topic, 514 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 6: and I understand the topic, but players and coaches are 515 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 6: not going to try to lose, Nope, So it's sort 516 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 6: of out of the control, and I think they're gonna 517 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 6: win a couple of games here the rest of the way. 518 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 6: This one game in early December, I guess it could 519 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 6: hurt the draft status, but I mean, obviously it did. 520 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 6: But you can't play your coach that way, and you 521 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: can't expect him to. There's no tanking for Travis. No, 522 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 6: it's not the thing. 523 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: Right in twenty twenty, it was full on tank for Trevor. 524 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: But that's because it's a quarterback and you have your 525 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: quarterback and you. 526 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 6: Have that so it was also a team capable of 527 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 6: losing fifteen oh yeah, yeah without trying. 528 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: And look, I think the Jaguars are going to end up, 529 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, in the top five to six players, and 530 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 3: this has been said already to be a seven or 531 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: eight player first round, impactful players. 532 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: So you're going to get a player. 533 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: And the Jaguars need them at nearly every position, So 534 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: you'll find yourself with a good player. 535 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: That's the other thing. 536 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: It's not you just need a quarterback or just one thing. 537 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: That this team needs several things. So I'm sure they 538 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: will find someone that fits. 539 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: And selfishly, it's better for us. It's more fun to 540 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: talk about. 541 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: Winning and Jags fans. I know you want a good 542 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: draft pick, but it's nice to win a little bit. Okay, 543 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: we don't want to lose out for the rest of 544 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: the way, so enjoy this one. Now we will go 545 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: to break and we'll come back and tell you a 546 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on this week. 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Hey, just keeps rolling. 557 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Okay. 558 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: But I'm so proud of you guys for the way 559 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: you work, the way. 560 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 1: You hang together through highs, through lows, adversity, whatever it is, 561 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: through injury. 562 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: It takes every single one of us. So my hat's 563 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 4: off to you. A great job. But before we go, 564 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: we gotta get it back. Okay, we gotta get it back. 565 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: So are you ready? 566 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: One? 567 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: Two, three. 568 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Evolves back? I haven't heard it in a minute. It 569 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: is nice to hear it. 570 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't see the energy from the coach too, right, 571 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: I mean we talk all the time about how what 572 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 3: a struggle it can be, and you see the players 573 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 3: and the coach. 574 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 4: But for him yesterday, it was nice to see that 575 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: winning's better than losing. I heard better than losing. 576 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: Also, get ready for this week scheme because I mentioned 577 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: it's brought to you behind it, but it's also throwbacks 578 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: once again. 579 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: That will bring a lot of energy. 580 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: Love the uniforms. I know John loves it. Uh always? 581 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: What number will you wear on Sunday? Remember what you 582 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: may h who know? 583 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: I love it? 584 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: Alright? 585 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Say with this this week, we'll tell you a little 586 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: bit about the Jets later in the week and what 587 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: the Jaggs are gonna be doing.