1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Annie Reese and 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren vocal Bomb, and it is time for another 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: cocktail hour. Yes, it is that time. It's getting cold 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: outside in the Northern Hemisphere. The holidays are bearing down 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: upon us, so we thought we'd cozy up with a 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: nice traffical, escapist drink that my type. Yea. So for 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: all the people imagining getting away to the beach, for 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: doing the opposite of dreaming of a white Christmas, this 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: one's for you. Okay. So what is my tie? This 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: is a great question because almost everything I read started 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: with some variation of the phrase You've probably never had 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: a real my tie, which is very judgmental. Yeah, but 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: I didn't. We have this conversation and then you took 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: me to a place and we got a my tie. Yes, 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: it was great anyway. So what is a real mightie? 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: What is a fake one? And what's the deal with 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: the umbrellas? It is all enough to cause a mild 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: existential crisis right up until you get to the delightful 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: little cocktail umbrella part. A mightie is a type of 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: rum punch purists like me, We'll tell you that it 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: should be made with a blend of light and dark RUMs, 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: orange curasow lime juice, demiero simple syrup demeira is a 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: type of raw sugar and sweet almond liquor or syrup 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: a k A or jutt. You generally shake this combination 25 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: with ice and then serve it over some fresh crushed 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: ice with maybe a mint sprig. Um. Sometimes the dark 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: rum or a little bit of surplus dark rum is 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: floated on top of the finished drink instead of being 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: totally shaken in. Uh. And the flavor of this concoction 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: is like a little bit sweet and sour, a little floral, 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: a little fruity, and a little richer, sort of like caramelly. 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: And it's not what i'd call it a refreshing punch, 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: but it tastes amazing and smooth and thus will totally 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: knock you on your butt if you're not careful. This 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: is of your favorite cocktails. It is strange. Oh, this 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: also brings us to hey, kids, drink responsibly. Oh yeah, 37 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: we forgot to mention that at the top we should 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: have yes, but here it is. But here it is 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: yes and in an appropriate place. So that's the kind 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: of like base recipe that most people will tell you 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: is the real recipe, but it is sometimes made with 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: wildly different syrups, liqueurs, and juices, which do greatly effect. 43 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the flavor and the result of pineapple and 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: orange juice are popular, and other stuff like ginger syrup 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: and full learn um, which is a sort of spiced 46 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: lime kind of liqueur. Really yeah. Um. The thing that 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: I like about the original is that it's not too sweet, 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: and those other ingredients tend to sweeten it and also 49 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of just like muddle the flavor a little bit, 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: which is like almost like a bartender pun. But I 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: didn't really work that hard on it, I don't know, 52 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and I liked it, yeah, thank you. Yeah, and that 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: was um. When Lauren took me to get a my 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: my experience had been with the overly sweetened version, so 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: I was a little where it was delicious. Yeah, it was. 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of complex, and I really liked the almond 57 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: Yeah that worst oh man. Okay, alright, so so yeah, 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: so a few notes about the ingredients, um, because okay, 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, like rum, I feel like it's considered a 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: little bit pedestrian, but it is just complex as all. Heck. 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: Um that the principal definition of rum is that it's 62 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: a liquor distilled from sugar, and where it goes from 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: there depends on the sugar product used from you know, 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: fresh prussed sugarcane to boiled molasses or anything in between 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: from a number of different and distinct sugarcane cultivars, and 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: also what you do with it after you you know, 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: booze if I that sugar, including adding spices or ageing, 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: get in any number of materials, from stainless steel drums 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: for light RUMs to spent bourbon barrels for aged RUMs 70 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: to charred barrels for dark realms. So much industry really 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: depends on on barrel mongers getting the United States to 72 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: pass laws about bourbon barrels only being used. Once it 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: all comes back, it does, and we've gotten some requests 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: to do an episode on barrels and absolutely that it's 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: a great idea. Yeah, oh man, that's a great like 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: First Inedible Thing episode, First in Edible Things, food stuff 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: not food stuff, not food. Um. That that ort is 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: basically my favorite thing the whole day universe. Um. You 79 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: can make your own at home if you want, The 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Internet will tell you how, or you can purchase it. 81 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: It's generally ground almonds that are soaked in sugar and 82 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: maybe some orange flower water plus or minus a neutral 83 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: flavored booze that's usually more like a stabilizer than anything else. 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: That orange curs ow is also sometimes looked down upon. 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I blame the nineteen eighties, thanks for nothing, thanks for 86 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: quite a few things actually like me included. Um anyway. Yeah, 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: as with most things, the orange curse ow that is 88 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: made with like actual food is pretty good. Yeah, weird, yeah, surprising. 89 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Curs I was actually an island off of Venezuela, and 90 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: when the Spanish moved in there, they tried cultivating Valencia oranges. 91 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: It did not work very well. The climates pretty dry, 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: even though it's a sort of tropical esque, and over 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: time the kind of forgotten Valencia orange trees morphed into 94 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: these kind of like bad for eating but lovely for 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 1: their oil oranges known as lahara. They've got this this aromatic, bitter, 96 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: spicy note that's just lovely. A proper cursow is made 97 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: with the dried peels of these oranges soaked in brandy, 98 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: and if you cannot find it, grand Marnier is made 99 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: in a similar way and is thus an appropriate substitution. Yes, 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I really wanted my tie. Now it's like ten in 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: the morning. Is there anything you can do to distract 102 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: ma Anny? I think I might have a little history. Yeah, history, 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: But first let's pause for a quick break for a 104 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsor. 105 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: So my ties got their start around World War two 106 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: as part of this surging Western interest with all things 107 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: of the South Pacific. In the US, this translated to 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: an explosion of tiki bars across the country. All the 109 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: cocktail umbrellas, the big bull drinks, the grass skirt wearing servers, 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: and t decor that you could ever want as far 111 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: as the eye could see inside these tiki bars anyway. Well, yeah, 112 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and there are two prominent theories as to who invented 113 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: the ma tai and they both have excellent names, don 114 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: the beach Comber and Trader Vic. I'm sure those are 115 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: their real names too. I'll talk about that. Yes, yeah, 116 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: let's start with the beach Comber. Beach Comber is often 117 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: cited as being at the center of this tiki culture boom, 118 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: sometimes called Tiki Dom. Yes, okay, so it's not his 119 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: real name, too bad. He went by several names Don Beach, 120 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Don beach Comber, or Ernest Raymond Beaumont Gont. Three guesses 121 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: which one is the real one it was. Gont Got 122 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: was in a Texan born in seven. He was raised 123 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and then set about exploring the world. 124 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Legend has it that he was a rum bootlegger during Prohibition. Yes, 125 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: and he traveled to the Caribbean and South Pacific. From 126 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: what I read, became sort of like a hippie surfer dude, 127 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: ultra chill. Yeah, he missed this chill when he returned 128 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: to the US, and I've experienced this to him. There 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: are even whole scientific studies and theories about it. Different podcast, 130 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: but it's really interesting. Um. And he went about returning 131 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: this chill, restoring it to the US by opening the 132 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: US is first tiki bar in He called it Don 133 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: the Beachcomber. It was a hit, drawing in crowds that 134 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: included famous people with its laid back atmosphere, delicious and 135 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: strong room drinks, and the food which was actually the 136 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: not so common at the time Cantonese food and other 137 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of Asian foods. Yeah, probably not usually Polynesian, but no, 138 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: you've come from from the yeah Yeah. Part of the 139 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Polynesian appeal was that while American made liquor makers had 140 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: to restart production after prohibition, imported realms were available and inexpensive. Also, 141 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: canned pineapple juice had just been invented. See our pineapple 142 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: episode for more about that. It was such a hit 143 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: that Gaunt Gaunt changed his name to Don Beach. That 144 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: original Beach Comer Bar is still opened, by the way, 145 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: you can go there cool. That same year, a certain 146 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: trader Vic whose real name was Vic Bergeron, opened his 147 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: own t heat bar called Pinky Pinks Uh. The name 148 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: changed the Trader Vix came in seven. It too, was 149 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: popular enough so that it opened new locations in Seattle 150 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: and even priests Datehood, Hawaii. In nine, Beach debut cocktail 151 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: named the Zombie at the New York World's Fair. If 152 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: you never had one of these before, The original Zombie 153 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: was a mixture of white gold and dark RUMs juice 154 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: usually line papaya are pineapple apricot brandy for learn um 155 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and bitters. According to his obitrary in The New York Times, 156 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: he invented eighty four drinks before arriving at this one, 157 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: and allegedly he whipped it up to help a patron 158 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: with a hangover get through a business meeting. Yeah, it 159 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: didn't work. However, now how could that be? I don't know, 160 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: And that the customer complained that it actually turned him 161 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: into a zombie. Things worst hince the name. With the 162 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: outbreak of World War Two, the beach Comber was deployed 163 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: to Europe, leaving his wife in charge of the bar, 164 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: and take charge she did, growing it to a chain 165 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: boasting sixteen locations. Tiki culture boomed in the forties and 166 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: fifties sinks in part to the spreading of these teaky bars, 167 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: which in turn boosted the popularity of these teaky bars. 168 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: Kind of a circle of peky bar life thing. People 169 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: really dug the escapist aspect to them the chill. Yeah. Also, 170 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: American military humans returning from duty in the South Pacific 171 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: had gotten a little bit of a taste for the culture. 172 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: There was a Rogers and Hammerstein musical. It was a 173 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, I think I've heard of that. In 174 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Trader Vic purportedly invented the ma Tai and Emeryville, California. 175 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: He had some friends visiting from Tahiti and he mixed 176 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: them this proto my Tai combo of rum, a seventeen 177 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: year old one for this special occasion lime simple syrup 178 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: or jutt an orange curse out to which one of 179 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the ambibers exclaimed, Ma Tai roa i meaning very good 180 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: or out of this world. And the reason he mixed 181 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: this he specifically wanted to highlight the taste of the 182 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: rum because it was special room, so he didn't want 183 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: anything to overpower it, just kind of enhance it. Trader 184 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Vic never disclosed the exact tress the p which is 185 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: cited as one of the reasons we have so many 186 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: bad takes on my ties. Yes, crossh you Vic, And 187 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: that's what Don Beach says. So going back to him, 188 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: he claims to have invented the my Tai in nineteen thirties, 189 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: three so years before only he called it the QB Cooler, 190 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: and he said that it served as the inspiration for 191 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: trader Vix my tie. Beach says that before trader Vic 192 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: had Trader Vix was trader Vix, he'd frequent Beaches Bar 193 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and that he pretty much stole the recipe for the 194 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: my Tai. Trader Vic obviously disputes these claims, writing in 195 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: his nineteen seven, Trader Vicks Bartending Guide. Anyone who says 196 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: that I didn't create this drink is a dirty stinker. 197 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Oh strong words, man, what a burn. The QB cooler 198 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: has double the amount of ingredients, though, including ginger styrup, 199 00:11:53,520 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: orange shoes, club, soda and honey. Whoever invented it? The folks, Well, 200 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: we'll fight more later, Yes, whoever invented it? The may 201 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Tai was so well liked so quickly that it supposedly 202 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: depleted the world's supply of the specific realm It was 203 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: first made with Ray and nephew, seventeen year old Jamaican rum. 204 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: Trader vic came out with an updated version of the 205 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: drink in the nineteen fifties, replacing the now rare rum 206 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: with an aged molasses based Martinique rum and a Jamaican 207 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: rum blended together. Of the drink's popularity, author of Potions 208 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: of the Caribbean, Jeff Barry wrote of the may Tie 209 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: that it was less a drink than a symbol of 210 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: your Hawaiian holiday. Either the one you've taken are the 211 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: one you aspired to take. It was paradise in a 212 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: glass that does sound lovely. It was time, though, for 213 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: the might Tie to actually make the journey to Hawaii, 214 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: jader Vic was hired by Mattson Steamship Lines, a shipping 215 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: company that helped popularize Hawaii as a vacation destination, to 216 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: crop the cocktail menus for the Royal Hawaiian and mo 217 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: Wanna Surfwrighter hotels, which of course featured the my Tai. 218 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: To make the drink more appealing to tourist, trader Vic 219 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: added orange and pineapple juices for a sweeter cocktail at 220 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: waikikis Royal Hawaiian Hotel in nineteen fifty four, and that 221 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: became a standard, replacing the original, less sweet Mytai. Don 222 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Beach by the Way had opened a Don the Beach 223 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: coomer on Waikiki at ninete, so they were kind of dovetailings. Yeah. 224 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: When Hawaii became a state in nineteen fifty nine, more 225 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: and more tourists flooded the islands and the demand for 226 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: my Tie skyrocketed. Bartenders made them by the gallon, yeah, 227 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: and to increase their profits, they watered the drink down, 228 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: used cheaper roum and replaced the line with local pineapple juice. 229 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Some had a rum float, which I guess we'll at 230 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: least make you not care about the quality of the ingredients. 231 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: That's true. The Mitai played a significant role in um 232 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty one Elvis Pressley film Blue Hawaii, and 233 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: in the seven these President Nixon was a really big fan, 234 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: and he hung out at the Trader Vix near the 235 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: White House and even took his wife there for fowl 236 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: in Dynsday in nineteen that. I never would have guessed that, Like, 237 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: what is President Nixon's favorite drink? Clearly the my Tie? Obviously, 238 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: I think I would have guessed dark and stormy. I'm 239 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: not sure why. Also in the seventies, Trader vic released 240 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: a bottled My Time Mix and sued Don the Beach 241 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: Comber for coming out with Don the beach Comber My 242 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: Time Mix that claimed on the label to be the 243 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: originator who my Tie. Justice. It went to court and 244 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Trader Vick had to divulge his until then secret my 245 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Tie recipe in a seven page document he titled Let's 246 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: get the record straight on the my Tie. He won 247 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: the lawsuit. Yeah, I tried to find a picture of 248 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: that bottle because that's that's such a what a move 249 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: the originator on there, right, I couldn't find any pictures 250 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: of it, So if any of you have, oh, if 251 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: anybody has has a picture, please send it in. Yeah, definitely, Um. 252 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Trader Fix still had some hard feelings despite winning the 253 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: court case. However, in his nineteen seventy six Hell of 254 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: a Man's cookbook, he wrote, we originated this drink. We 255 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: made the first my taie. We named the drink. A 256 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: lot of bastards all over the country have copied it 257 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: and copyrighted it and claimed it for their own. I 258 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: hope they get the box. They're a bunch of lousy 259 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: bastards for copying my drink. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I had 260 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: some strong opinions, perhaps a lack of chill, perhaps should 261 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: I find interesting in this whole my taie story? Clearly 262 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: why I had to drink them. They lost the true 263 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: meaning of them, tie man. Yeah, they lost the original 264 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: recipe and the true meaning. There's something deep here, there 265 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: is there's deeper level to this Portraitor Vic. Okay. The 266 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: verdict seems to be that Trader Vic copied the style 267 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of the restaurant of Don the Beach Comber, and he 268 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: got the inspiration for the Mayetai from a drink he 269 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: liked there. But he did in fact invent the ma tie. 270 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: It was different enough. Yeah, definitely. As we talked about 271 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: in past Cocktail Hour episodes, in the eighties, a lot 272 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: of cocktail stuffered the terrible fate of corner cutting with 273 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: the addition of syrups and often overly sweetened canned juices. 274 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: The Hallaku Lani on Waikiki was just about the only 275 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: place you could find the original ma tai. Using original 276 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: recipes was kind of their whole thing, and in New York, 277 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: bartender Danny de Pamphalis revived the original ma tai at 278 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: the Mowana Hotel, but the price meant that it didn't 279 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: stick around very long. Oh no. The price, by the way, 280 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: it was five fifty, which I'm sure at that time 281 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: was like what today's prices are. But I in my 282 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: head that's like, he's pretty good. That's like, give me 283 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: twenty nine of those. Tiki culture also sort of faded 284 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: to the background between the six seas and nineties, but 285 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: it's come back in a pretty big way recently. Um 286 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: The Bar at the Merchant Hotel in Belfast, Northern Ireland 287 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: made the Guinness Book of World Records in two thousand 288 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: seven by selling the most expensive cocktail ever, My tie 289 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: made with the seventeen year old Ray and a few 290 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: rum used trader Vic's first iteration for a smooth one thousand, 291 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy a pop. What for one for one? 292 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: That's a lot more than five fifty Yeah, quite quite 293 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: a bit. But people bought him in the hotel ran 294 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: out in less than a year. My goodness, I can't 295 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: even imagine that. Well, anyway, as of two thousand nine, Oakland, 296 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: California declared August my tie Day. Yeah, I think every 297 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: day is my tie day. Well it is here at 298 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: food Stuff anyway. So that's the about the history, the 299 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: not so chill history of the Man Tai. We've got 300 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more, but first we've got one more 301 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 302 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor. So here is where I was going 303 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: to have a Lawrence Killjoy corner about tiki culture and 304 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: how problematic it is. But I just really didn't feel 305 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: like doing that today, to be super honest, I was like, 306 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: can I just not talk about racism for once? That 307 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: would be really nice. So instead I'm going to talk 308 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: about cocktail umbrellas yay, and we can talk about We 309 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: can talk about the rise and fall of tiki culture 310 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: at another point in time. But okay, yeah, so so 311 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: since you asked Annie. According to famed tiki drink historian 312 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: who we have already mentioned once in this episode, Jeff Barry, 313 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: his blow and books blog singular and books plural are 314 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: the best. Totally check them out. Um. The tiky umbrella 315 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: SUTs first use at the Hilton y Ki Ki, possibly 316 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: in nine. A bartender there by the name of Harry 317 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Ye was looking for a suitable garnish. He first used 318 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: sticks of sugarcane for his cocktails, but found that customers 319 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: had this annoying habit of chewing on them and then 320 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: leaving them in the bar ash trays, getting everything all 321 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: sticky and requiring extra washing up at the end of 322 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: a shift. No good. Uh. He also tried orchids, but 323 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: they were kind of personicketty, so he started using this 324 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: festive paper umbrella on a stick that the hotel happened 325 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: to have on hand. It was probably being used as 326 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: a fancy toothpick or maybe a plate garnish, or maybe 327 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: even an inexpensive gift for for customers for use in 328 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: their hair or on their hats. If I ever see 329 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: it someone picking their teeth with an umbrella for a 330 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: little cocktail umbrella, it's gonna make my thing. I'm sure 331 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: it's happened. I think that if you hang out at 332 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: a trader Vic long enough, it's almost guaranteed homework assignment. 333 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and I'm gonna photograph the evidence. Excellent, 334 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: get their table, put it on social media. Great. Um, 335 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: but we have attacked that much about science this episode. 336 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Is there science behind the cocktail umbrella? Is there? Are 337 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: they actually shading your drink and protecting it from the sun, 338 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: just like an umbrella would do for me? Rather? Um, 339 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: They might indeed keep a bit of direct sunlight off 340 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: of your cocktail, allowing the ice to melt more slowly, 341 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: which is great because drinks do become a bit unbalanced 342 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: as they water down from ice. Plus, according to professors 343 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: of chemistry and organic chemistry that Bonaptit magazine spoke to 344 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: melted ice, well, um, the ice melted grather will raise 345 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: the temperature of a drink above that zero degrees celsius 346 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: thirty two degrees fahrenheit and thus slightly increase the rate 347 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: of alcohol evaporating out of your glass. The protection of 348 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: a paper umbrella will offer a pretty negligible effect, however, 349 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: compared to like the ambient temperature of the room, the 350 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: table of the glasses sitting on in your hand. So 351 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: so the science is about that noise. That's yes, the 352 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: the scientific answer is that noise that Annie just made. 353 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: I also did a weird face and us shrugging up 354 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: my shoulder and a half shrug of my left shoulders. 355 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: It's just the left shoulder science exactly. So that's what 356 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: we have to say in this cocktail hour about them Tie. 357 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: We will definitely come back and talk about tech culture 358 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: and also I kind of want to do one on 359 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: like you mentioned how Rum kind of has this oh 360 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: yeah stereotype college drinks around the world almost because I 361 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons it has that association is 362 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: because that's what you drink in college, and it can 363 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: be so cheap and it's kind of sweet, and it's 364 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of feminine. And we've mentioned before, if you're filling 365 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: out that bingo cards, just hit hit down the weird gender. Yeah, 366 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: Rum drinks. So yeah, yeah, lots of really fun episodes 367 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: to come back to it a later time. Yeah. In 368 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: the meanwhile, this brings us to listener, Yes, listener mail Um. 369 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: We got a lot of I'm actually really happy about this. 370 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: We got a lot of people who wrote in about 371 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: how they eat with forks. I wasn't expecting it. I'm 372 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: very happy to happen. Yeah, so Mallary wrote in regarding 373 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: the European versus American use of the knife and fork, 374 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: My dad, who despite his imposing stature at six ft 375 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: six inches, is an incredibly kind, open minded and intelligent man, 376 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: and the sort of person anyone would want as their 377 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: father a friend. That is, until it comes to table manners. 378 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: My family have grown up eating our dinner together, a 379 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: dying practice which we cheered. When you said the fork 380 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: is held in the weaker hand, that is correct for 381 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: the majority. The fork is properly held in left hand, 382 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: regardless of which is your strongest. Food is drawn to 383 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the fork by the knife, always drawing towards you, never 384 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: away all caps. You never scoop food with your knife 385 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: and fork. Equally the knife works the plate, the fork delivers. 386 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: His subject line was also in all caps, by the way, 387 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: and I kind of freaked out because I thought he 388 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: could somehow know that I was doing this. Incorrectly. Back 389 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: to Mallory, the fork is always held and used curved down, 390 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: with the exception of peas. Recently, I bought my girlfriends 391 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: home to meet the parents, and they have never taken 392 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: too kindly to my partners to date. But after seeing 393 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: my girlfriend's good posture, elbows off of the table and 394 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: the fork being firmly set into the left hand, my 395 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: dad gave me an improving nod. Approving nod. Excusely. Little 396 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: does he know I have told her all of this 397 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: in advance. Is so oh, that's beautiful, it is and 398 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: that's intense O, man. I definitely. I had a friend 399 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: whose family was like that, and every time I went 400 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: over I kind of had a little nerve min minor 401 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: panic attack. Exactly. I'm sitting at the table, just looking around. 402 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to do anything. Please don't yell at me. 403 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: I just want to eat this food. How do I 404 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: get these peas to my mouth? I don't know, I 405 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: don't know. Are complicated? Cooping right off the plate in 406 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: your hands to shovel, Yeah, and then run away before 407 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: anyone can say anything. Yeah, flip the table. That's how 408 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: you solve problems. All the time. While peas are scance. 409 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: You can make an exit exactly anyway. Janelle sent us 410 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: some tips for frying a turkey. Just listen to your 411 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: episode on turkeys. My husband and I have deep fried 412 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving turkeys a few times in the past few years, 413 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: as well as various ducks and cornish hens, which by 414 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: the way, resemble deep fried frogs do their size and shape. 415 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: We apparently like to live on the edge regarding our 416 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: cardiac health. But deep fried bird is dang tasty, and 417 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: it's actually not all that greasy. You mentioned the scary 418 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: YouTube videos, and the trick to preventing burning down your 419 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: garage is lowering the bird in souper slowly so the 420 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: hot oil doesn't bubble up and catch fire. Plus, maybe 421 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: don't place the deep fryer in your freaking garage this 422 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: past Thanksgiving. We're Canadian. I believe it took my husband 423 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: around fifteen minutes to lower in the turkey. It takes 424 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: around three point five to four minutes per pound, not 425 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: four minutes total as you referred to in the episode. 426 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Still quick, but not as blisteringly quick as he thought. 427 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: So if you're thinking about it, perhaps not as terrifying. 428 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe uh I mean, follow Janelle's advice, be careful, 429 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: be careful where where protection take video, send this video 430 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to deep fry oh my goodness, if 431 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: you're about to deep fry turkey, all right, you probably already, 432 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: I mean, thanks, Thanksgiving us over by the time this 433 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: episode is out, but some people might do it for 434 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: Christmas winter other winter holidays. Um yeah, Tuesday. Yeah, oh yeah. 435 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I actually had this fight with my parents when I 436 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: was younger. Why can't we have these foods any other 437 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: time of year? Only only twice in the winter? I know. 438 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: And thanks to all the other listeners who sent in 439 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: all of their to Brian Dry Bryan went, Brian, don't 440 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: Brian tips excellent and I somehow I wish we could 441 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: do like a turkey tasting, but there's no way, I 442 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: mean unless we got a whole office to participate. Yeah, 443 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: or we could we could do like turkey pieces instead 444 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: of whole turkeys, but it would it wouldn't be the same. No, 445 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd brine Well, anyway, we'll we'll 446 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah yeah, So thanks to both of 447 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: them for writing in. If you would like to write 448 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: to us, send us some video of you deep frying 449 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: a turkey, you can. Our email address is foods Deaf 450 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: at has stuff works dot com. We're also on social 451 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: media and you can get in touch with us there. 452 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: We are on Instagram at food stuff and on Twitter 453 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: and Facebook at food Stuff hs W. Thank you so 454 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 1: much to our audio producer, Dylan Fagin, and we hope 455 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: to hear from you, and we hope that lots more 456 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: good things are coming your way. M