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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, it's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: And we continue now with part two of our conversation

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Speaker 1: with Bob Muzakowski. Right after these brief messages from our

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Speaker 1: general sponsors.

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Speaker 2: Success in America today, Black white Latina, whatever you are

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Speaker 2: is moving as far away from any suffering as you

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Speaker 2: could possibly move, right. That is so true. You don't

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Speaker 2: want to be done. And you know I have might.

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Speaker 2: I had someone call me the Gone. So we live

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Speaker 2: a mile from the United Center with the Bulls and

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Speaker 2: a black Hawks play, and people say, well, I got

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Speaker 2: off the highway earlier, and this real bad neighbor. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: that's my corner. Here on my corner. It's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: So me, you probably don't know this, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do it with you real quick. The whole reason

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Speaker 1: this podcast exists is because that Catholic over in the corner,

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Speaker 1: otherwise known as my pain, and that producer, and the

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Speaker 1: reason is the paint in that producers, because all producers

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Speaker 1: are that interviewed me, and you know, I was frustrated

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Speaker 1: that day and kind of got on my soapbox and

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Speaker 1: I said, there's neighborhoods that we drive by in every

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Speaker 1: major metropolitan AIA all over the country every single day

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Speaker 1: that we don't want to have a flat tire. That's

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Speaker 1: where we don't want our car to break down, because

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Speaker 1: we're convinced if we have to get out and change

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Speaker 1: flat tire here, we're gonna get mugged and lose our

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Speaker 1: life and our wallet and everything else. And then as

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Speaker 1: we pass by safely, we kind of exhale, and as

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Speaker 1: we look down that road or over that viaduct and

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Speaker 1: we see all that despair and all that disenfranchisement, sadness

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Speaker 1: and poverty and loss, we think to ourselves, men, somebody

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Speaker 1: got to do something about that one day, as if

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Speaker 1: the government's going to swoop in and after being woefully

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Speaker 1: inadequate for the past ten decades, they're all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden going to swoop in and become effective, or maybe

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Speaker 1: the people on seeing it and box are going to

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Speaker 1: swoop down and help us. And the answer is we

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Speaker 1: need to tilt that rear view mirror to the left

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Speaker 1: about fifteen degrees and maybe think maybe I could do

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Speaker 1: something about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't and you don't have to do

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Speaker 2: like everyone thinks, let's macro fix the inner city, and

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Speaker 2: it's islands of strength and hope. Right, Little Paris is

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Speaker 2: little church at Londale Community Church in Chicago. They own

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Speaker 2: like fifteen city blocks where of houses and pizza Bria,

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Speaker 2: and those guys are really down and dirty doing it,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: It's islands of strength and hope, little churches, little youth programs,

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Speaker 2: sports programs. We just need ten times more.

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Speaker 1: Of those little spots of need and community.

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Speaker 2: With young Life, Fellowship with Christna Chicago, our athletic center,

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Speaker 2: our athletic facilities are nicer than anything in the nicest suburb.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold it, we got to get to that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you get married because you get set up on

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Speaker 1: the New York dating game where thirty fit and you're

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Speaker 1: making I guess you're making some money again.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, my wife's and so. But I wanted to

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Speaker 2: you know, alcoholics anonymous, I say, stay away from people,

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Speaker 2: places and things, people used to hang out with, places

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Speaker 2: New York's a big city. We can still bump in

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Speaker 2: an old girlfriend, right, So we moved to If you

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Speaker 2: remember victim.

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Speaker 2: So we moved to Chicago because the only other place

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Speaker 2: in Chicago, Tom Mitchell. So so we move out, figured

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Speaker 2: we have just a day to look and on Saturday

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Speaker 2: two beds, fireplace like a thousand a month in New

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Speaker 2: the next morning I go for a run and a

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Speaker 2: block away I come around a corner and there's, you know,

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Speaker 1: Is that really true? Yeah? You don't know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so people were a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: How did you not know?

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Speaker 2: We came in from the from the Hissinos, from the lakeside?

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Speaker 1: In the morning. The Division and Sedua, you know what.

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Speaker 2: So on the corner are two baseball diamonds with high grass.

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Speaker 2: It's called Carson Field because the police officer named Fred

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Speaker 2: hadn't been used in a while. You could sell. And

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Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm going that way, and the cops

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Speaker 2: She said, So I said, I just moved here from

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is they saw a white dude running

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Speaker 2: So which isn't going to happen because if you're white,

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Speaker 2: or you're using your a cop or social work or something.

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Speaker 2: If you're a thousand times safer if you're white. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not a vice lord or a gangster discycle, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't fit. So so that's an illusion that because

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Speaker 2: you're white, they're going to want you know anyway, that

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Speaker 2: you're more muggable. So a guy running is not he

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Speaker 1: The boys where working. You start to have a catch.

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Speaker 2: I there a bunch of kids on the corner when

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Speaker 2: Al Carter, He's playing baseball with him. So I went

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Speaker 1: Sold it. You see these kids running, and you just

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Speaker 2: And and I see every time i'm running or going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're like, I'm going to bostroom stuff and front.

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Speaker 2: Everybody played baseball, and I played freshmen through college, so

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Speaker 2: I'm decent at baseball, So I said, I gave him

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Speaker 2: I showed him how to do a Little league try

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Speaker 1: What that says that there's nothing else to do for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that on the field there and it's right there,

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Speaker 2: I had about four buddies you were, and four guys

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Speaker 2: So that I went home that Monday and I bought

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Speaker 2: And I said, I needed a sponsor team. It's fifteen

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Speaker 2: to coach it. You can't just give me money. So

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Speaker 2: they said, well, where is it? I said, sure, you

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Speaker 2: said you bumbled it and everybody knows Cabrini, but we

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Speaker 2: a bunch of guys everybody, Anita, Northern Trust, Northwestern Mutual, Merrill, Lynch,

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Speaker 2: bear Sterns. All these companies were coaching. The first year

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Speaker 2: So nothing to do with baseball. It's about how would

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Speaker 2: He's an orthopedic surgeon. How would a guy like that

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Speaker 1: Explain what that is?

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Speaker 2: So you're never going to meet a kid from Gabrini Green.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Explain that Caen named after Mother Cabrini. There's a movie

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Speaker 2: about her this year, right she was canonized. Was an

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Speaker 1: And when you say that in Chicago, everybody shriek. Everybody

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Speaker 1: else and everybody goes. That's which is now completely knocked down.

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Speaker 2: Now our current field. A two bedroom is five hundred

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Speaker 2: And actually, if you said well, people were saying, well,

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Speaker 2: I've been there twenty years. I'm like, well, if you

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Speaker 2: haven't paid rent in twenty years, you really don't have

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Speaker 2: too much to say in my mind, right right, So look,

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Speaker 2: you just it's like you said earlier. So now the

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Speaker 2: baseball thing, people, my friend Paul O'Connor adopted three of

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Speaker 2: we started a Highsight scholarship program. A lot of good

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Speaker 2: things came out of that.

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Speaker 1: All right. So how you were thirty or so when

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Speaker 1: you did this, yep, all right, So basically let's just

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Speaker 1: be kind of melt this down. You're going on a run.

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Speaker 1: Some cops say you're crazy. You notice some kids you have,

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Speaker 1: the kids put some flyers out, and within a year

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Speaker 1: you've got fourteen baseball teams, sixteen being sponsored by and coached.

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Speaker 2: By Northern Trust bankers. Guys you'd never think, right.

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Speaker 1: So now you're introducing people to one another who would

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Speaker 2: when you give quietly, so your left handed because it's

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Speaker 2: the Little League because can Al Part coached in the

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00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 2: Little League and he rode for.

437
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: Penn and that's the connect. Believable.

438
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: So and I still talk to him once a month.

439
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: So your kids are about to go to high school.

440
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: Their options are infinite, but their friends' options that they've

441
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: come up living with around on our Manly which is

442
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: where went, which is terrible.

443
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: So I just had just sold the business to National

444
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: Financial Partners, and I had I paid off my mom's

445
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: house in my mother's house and did the fifty to

446
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: fifty thing and bought the local Catholic school to open up.

447
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you bought the school. Bought a school from the dooces.

448
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were the first ones they ever sold to.

449
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 2: They rent a lot, but if they sell, that's admitting defeat. Right.

450
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: So because the Little League was so strong and we

451
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 2: had a good reputation, they sold it to me for

452
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: a million nine and I would have paid five million.

453
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 2: Church Rectory Convent School. The structural engineer when he came there,

454
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: he said, Bob, if there's a tsunami, come here. This

455
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 2: will be the last building sting. This thing is so

456
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: the Italian artisans built it really well. So we open

457
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 2: up with one hundred and twenty freshmen. All of the

458
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 2: kids are from the Little League, the whole schools that

459
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 2: come out.

460
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: Hold it. You buy it the facility for me and

461
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: nine from the dooces. All right, that's a lot. Got

462
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: to rehab. Then that means the bureaucrats are going to

463
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: come in and tell you about the asbestos and everything.

464
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that happened that I was like a hundred. I

465
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: was really surprised. It was mostly in the tiles and

466
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 2: wrapped around the pipes.

467
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: Okay, so now you got to me and in the school. Yeah,

468
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: here come one hundred and twenty five.

469
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: And we had I had to guarantee you all my

470
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: stuff on that loan too.

471
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: I did that. When these kids show up for school, Listen,

472
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: the two million dollars is amazing that you did that.

473
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: But here's my question. There's operating expense. We spent that.

474
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: We spent a private school. We're independent school. My friends

475
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: and I put in another three or four. So when

476
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: you put an air conditioning, because it didn't have any,

477
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: you've got to cut a hole in every single room, man,

478
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: and a whole bunch of things like that. So now

479
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: we've got and we did it in about six months.

480
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: We made the school ready looking beautiful. Right, So we

481
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: start with freshmen and sophomores and we're playing football right

482
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: out of the gate, right.

483
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: So I have nobody to play. And he knows the

484
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: story because it has to do with his alma mater,

485
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: so and his uncle. So I'm talking about Alex the Producer,

486
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: Alex the Producer quartet. So we have nobody to play.

487
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: I actually scheduled we had one game and Brentwood Academy,

488
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: we're going to play Thanksgiving weekend and come down here

489
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: just play them a JV game.

490
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say, what the hell Riverwoods Academy's good.

491
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: They was scored a hundred. So we open up. Somebody

492
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: dropped football a month before the season. One school seat

493
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: and academy drops football, So that means there's nine teams

494
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: out there with an empty day. So I'm going, Hey,

495
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm Bob from Chicago Hope. I see you're empty on November.

496
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: So I got my nine games and I open up

497
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 2: with Saint Ignatius College Prep.

498
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: Who's coaching these kids?

499
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: We had Renee Stewart who played in the NFL, and

500
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: we have We've Chicago Hope has always had great staff

501
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 2: and great people.

502
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: Got it.

503
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: And I came up from Brentwood and Brad Perry who

504
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: was at Brentwick Academy kid. So they came up and

505
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: lived for you, came up for a year or just

506
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: stay four a year.

507
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: Got us going. And so.

508
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: We we open up with Saint Ignacious and it's when

509
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: there it was the new field, the new astrotar field

510
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: and track they had just set up. And Steve Cortez

511
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: was coach of the JV team and said, look, Bob,

512
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: I know you're brand new, and if it gets ugly,

513
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: I promise not to run up to score. So I

514
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: did use that in a pregame talk. So my wife's

515
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: at the game and some of our donors come at

516
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: halftime and it's twenty six seven, are going, well, that's

517
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: not that bad, and know we're winning. We ran him

518
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: off the field, so we beat him like forty eight

519
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: before you did. Chicago ho beat the sixteen on it

520
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: student st nacious. Now they're not a football power at

521
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: that time. They've gotten really good, but the fact is

522
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: we won the game, which was really big for us.

523
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: So picture you're paying playing. I have great pictures of

524
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: that game with the Chicago skyline in the background, this

525
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: beautiful huntred year old Catholic.

526
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: School and you kick there.

527
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: So we're fast speed kills. We had like four four plays, right,

528
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: there's unlimited place you could do when you leah, that's true.

529
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: And we had Romel Robinson was lead a later stay

530
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 2: after that. So we we had a good team. And

531
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: we're all boys. Most of my know since they're nine

532
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: or ten because I know them from the baseball program.

533
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: So we really have good relationships going. And then we've

534
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: had we've had one losing season in the twenty years.

535
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: We're good. I want to go back to I get

536
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: you piled a bunch of money in it. But how

537
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: are you operating this thing that operational cost because it's

538
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: a private school, and I don't gets many people paying tuition.

539
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah no they everybody pays. And if I had a

540
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: billion dollars, you'd pay so right now, cost about.

541
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: You want everybody.

542
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: But it's knowing in Chicago. The public school kids often

543
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 2: don't show up. When it's knowing in Chicago. The Chicago

544
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: Hope kids show up because Grandma's going. You. I'm paying

545
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: two hundred a month, get your right, You're going, So

546
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: you got to own it, right, So no one's ever

547
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: been kicked out for money. We make them work in

548
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: the summer, so and so I got to get the

549
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: rest of it. So I'm getting two or three thousand,

550
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: and I got to get sixteen. So we raise a

551
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: bunch of money from.

552
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,360
Speaker 1: First that would have cost about twenty per kid.

553
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: To sixteen sixteen, about thirteen short this year times three hundreds,

554
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm four million short. So we raise a bunch of

555
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: money for mostly my clients, because I know what they have.

556
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: I invest their money. I'm like, don't give me no

557
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars, not missing a zero pile, you know, right, So.

558
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: You advantage their money.

559
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: I know we've done a really good job with them,

560
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: so missing a zero. So we have that kind of relationship,

561
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: and they like guys. I have never asked anyone for money.

562
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: I just tell the story, right, And at one point

563
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: they're going to say, how can I help? Right, there's

564
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: an awkward silence going on.

565
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: You're missing a zero?

566
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: So fifteen and I remember the third year I barred

567
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: my life insurance cash value to make payroll, so it

568
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 2: was tight. Right.

569
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: So is your wifeless a reminder?

570
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: She she's used to me her gift and the problem

571
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: is with her. My pastor said, my gifts are exhortation

572
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: and compassion, and hers her discernment and those two bank

573
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: heads right wow. So but her passion was the school too, right,

574
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: and so she's very involved.

575
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: Right.

576
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: So, and my wife is wicked smart. She's smart girl

577
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: in homeschool.

578
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: We'll be right.

579
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: Back then, the banks, it was the big short, right,

580
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: So the banks started to donate foreclosures to nonprofits with

581
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: audited financials. So I have a guy working for me, Kevin.

582
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: He's one of those guys played rugby at Williams and

583
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: the univers Chicago.

584
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: MBA crashed and burned.

585
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: And he's been with us from day one for twenty years.

586
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: And he's one of those guys. You put him in

587
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: the woods, he'll build a house. I think you kind

588
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: of probably like that. So we get the first donation

589
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: from the bank and a foreclosure, put in twenty grand,

590
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: sell it for a buck fifty and go. So we

591
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: just flipped our five hundredth house with the largest nonprofit

592
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: receiver of four close homes in Chicago.

593
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: You are kitty.

594
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: So the real estate business pays the teachers, plus the tuition,

595
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: plus donations. So when you put someone in the house,

596
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: it's a big deal. So I mean, I'm like George Bailey,

597
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: and it's a wonderful life when someone gets their house.

598
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: Remember that, mister man seeing me.

599
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Like you own a house. Hey, you want to get conservative.

600
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: You see black people who own their house. You want

601
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: to see people turn Republican. Quit you want some You

602
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: want to stop and frisk on your block when people

603
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: are getting high on your doorstep. You want the cop

604
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: to stop and frisk these guys. And if you get

605
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: five or six houses on a block, the block turns.

606
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: When you own it, you fix it. You go down

607
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: the street. I'll tell you who's renting and who's owning

608
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: by the garden in front of your house, that's true.

609
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: So uh and so, and we flipped the house in

610
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Hyde Park for allion. It's not all like inner city house.

611
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

612
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 2: So uh and where the banks c ALR they have

613
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: to do community reinvestment, they don't. They give us like

614
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: a six and a half percent. Aren't doing anything right.

615
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: They're acting like they're doing us a favor right community reinvestment,

616
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: And they don't give us money, they just lend it

617
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: to us. So and we have investors. So I got

618
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: a dozen guys who put from one hundred grand to

619
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: a million. They get a five percent coupon. Every year

620
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 2: they get five percent interest. Most of them rip the

621
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: check up. If I'm delivering that check in person, they're

622
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: ripping that check up. That's important. But not if some

623
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: of them take it, I'm like, my family office guy

624
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: did it? Like, well, your family office guy. So, so

625
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: then they got a deduction if they don't take it.

626
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: If five percent looked great until the last three years, right,

627
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: five percent was going When it's just right for three

628
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 2: or four percent, five look right.

629
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: So you're really strong arming your clients out of their

630
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: money in the name of Jesus in the fair catch, which.

631
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: I guess I have to report it to my bro

632
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: dealer every year, like I did, And so I don't

633
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: really talk, you know, just hey, am I Honor Boyd? Yeah,

634
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm CEO of Chicago Academy. But I don't talk about

635
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: that that much because I guess i'm technically you know,

636
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: we're getting money from people who are our clients to

637
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: do some of that's their call, right to five and

638
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: one seed three audited fundy, and the people in my

639
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: business a lot of them support it, right, So that's

640
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: it's kind of wonderful. We're employing a bunch of guys.

641
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: How long has the school been out your twenty this year?

642
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: Twenty yeah, Chicago twenty years? Yeah? And how many what's

643
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: we read? Three hundred and ten?

644
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: We're high school, right, and we turned down one hundred

645
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: and fifty kids last year. You turned down because I

646
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: just don't have the room. So I have a twenty

647
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: four acre across from our nud little League fields, which

648
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: you could picture four Little League diamonds with the center

649
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: fielders are back to back right on that beautiful field.

650
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: Alex knows about it. Steve Cortez's uncle coach there for

651
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: a couple of years on that field. We put our

652
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: football field right. I got one hundred and twenty four yards,

653
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: so you better. That's why you got a helmet on.

654
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 2: You hit that brick wall two yards beyond the end,

655
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: squeeze it across the street. Fifteen years ago, I see

656
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: this beautiful building going up, looks like a warehouse.

657
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: I go in there.

658
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's trainer, Tim Grover, builds the nicest basketball facility

659
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: you've ever seen across the street fifty yards from our littlefield,

660
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: and he goes bankrupt and we buy it out a foreclosure.

661
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: So Chicago hope our gym is as nice as any

662
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: suburban gym. You have four full NBA courts, mahogany wood,

663
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: locker rooms, oh my gosh, cold plunge, you name it.

664
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: Built for the NBA guys, and we buy it out.

665
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: A room with a batting Our weight room looks like

666
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: Clemsons and so it's home for special Olympics.

667
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: This bought in.

668
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: They stroked the check for a couple million dollars.

669
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: Going in there.

670
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: Joe Mowglia made the down payment on the gym. When

671
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: we end up buying it for seven and a half.

672
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: He was ceover mer trade and now he's had football

673
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: coach a Coastal Carolina I know store. Yeah, so head

674
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: of football operations. Because of his asthma, he can't be

675
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: down on a field the last three years.

676
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: So how does you think this thing costs? To build

677
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: this gym?

678
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: He built it for twelve We bought it for.

679
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Seven and a half. It's pretty good.

680
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: And then we put it in a beautiful So we

681
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: have twenty four acres there with a beautiful track and cats.

682
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: That's where we want to build a new school. And

683
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: we go to six or eight hundred.

684
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: But I can't imagine that every kid on earth wants

685
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: to be in the school.

686
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Pretty easy to recruit there, you know. And we have

687
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: kids that can barely read. We have a trades program

688
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: now we're in a second year of that for electricians.

689
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: Why can they barely read because they can't. They got

690
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: passed through grammar school and just and shouldn't have passed.

691
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Can you catch them out? Yeah?

692
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: So there's that great philosopher Chris Rock said this us,

693
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: if Johnny can't read, that's mommy's fault. If Johnny can't read,

694
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: because the electric bill hasn't been paying. The lights are out.

695
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: That's daddy's fault.

696
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm daddy.

697
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: And so the kids come in. And then I got

698
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: kicked my Valthers. Wh I went to Stanford last year,

699
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: hire kids at Brown. Yeah, we got a couple of

700
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt and so our best kids are as good as anybody's.

701
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 2: And then we got a bunch in the middle. We

702
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: have two stationed in Poland right now in the US Army.

703
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know we have twenty thousand

704
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: American soldiers in Poland.

705
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know had twenty.

706
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: We must think something might happen, But I knew we.

707
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Had a bunch. So anyway, let me I'm sorry to

708
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: interrupt you, Bob, but it when you started you had

709
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: how many kids was that first year? Ninety kids? How

710
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: many were white? No?

711
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: I won Sammy, my daughter, Sammy was in the first

712
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: liston your kid.

713
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my second year Bo came. Then I what

714
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: is the demographics? School now?

715
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: Sixty percent black, thirty percent Latino, ten percent white Asian.

716
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: You know who comes to the white kids who come

717
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: with the homeschoolers? No kids want to play? That's serious

718
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: about Jesus in there and the athletic side of it.

719
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: We're good.

720
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: We played the big schools and we were beating Whitney Young.

721
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: It's a big, Notory public high school in Chicago. It's

722
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: a testing school, so it's for the smart kids, and

723
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: so all the smart black and white kids go, you know,

724
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: and so we opened with them this year.

725
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: We're beating them Ford. Have you ever thought about boarding?

726
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: We did board some kids. We boarded, and we had

727
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: kids coming in from Vietnam, South Korea. We had a

728
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: big house that we boarded them, and then they stopped

729
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: coming because of COVID and I'll mix them in with

730
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: like homeless black kids.

731
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: And I love this stuff. Right.

732
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I picked this kid up at O'Hare Airport from Vietnam,

733
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: so obviously if they're coming here, they're rich kids, right,

734
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: And they're coming to a Christian school in the hood,

735
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: and we haven't been this beautiful building. And the kid

736
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: is cranked up, Chance the Rapper, he's never been an

737
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: American in his life. I'm rooming him with Tyrone, right,

738
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: and Tyrone's math scores go up, and this kid's gotten

739
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: him so.

740
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Roads math scores go for Vietnam and.

741
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: All these funny little math tricks and stuff. So uh so, look,

742
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 2: I can't remediate you to Harvard, but I can make

743
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: you a good man, right, And we've probably uh six

744
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: or seven Hope graduates or police officers.

745
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: Now.

746
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: I was just playing in the gym with one of

747
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: them the other day. So you know, the great thing

748
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: about our facilities is everybody could come. So I'll see

749
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: a kid in there who's thirty, he graduated twelve years ago.

750
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: He's just in there, working out, hanging out. I'll see

751
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: all these little kids running around. It's a huge facility.

752
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: The NBA Draft combine is often in our gym. That's

753
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: how nice it is. Wow, we have to shut it

754
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: down for four days. They give us twenty five grand.

755
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: They should give us a quarter million dollars. So yeah,

756
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to them yet, but yeah, so but

757
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: it's sort of a notious place. You know, it's three

758
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: miles from downtown.

759
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: What's your budget? Budget is.

760
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 2: Therefore?

761
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Okay?

762
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 2: So I get a call the Sunday before the around

763
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: the election at my house. Scret Service calls that Obama

764
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: wants to play basketball. I hope for good luck. The

765
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: morning of the elect presidential election for his second term.

766
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: So we say Yeah, they got snipers on the roof.

767
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 2: Dog sniffed the building. Arnie Duncan was there pipping some

768
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: of the bulls.

769
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Came.

770
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: Obama comes. He says, you look old, and I said,

771
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't see no crowd around. You need the Paul

772
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: remember that from Rocky So and he smokes cigarettes. So

773
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: he playing basketball. He's a lefty. Obama's probably six one

774
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: one seven. He's a lean guy, so he could You know,

775
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: we weren't allowed.

776
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: To hit foulu. Does they have a good shot?

777
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, if nobody's on him, he could hit it.

778
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Okay.

779
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Arnie Duncan had of education, can still play good.

780
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Right?

781
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Janulis whose secretary's day?

782
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: Get dunk?

783
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: He's like forty five. So they're all playing. But he

784
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: asked me, Hey, Bob, what's your secret sauce to having

785
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: a great inner city school? And I said, Barry, if

786
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: you want to fix an inner city school, put your

787
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: own kid in it.

788
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: He ain't doing that. We ain't doing that.

789
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: Look you know how my black friends say, first black

790
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: president was Bill Clinton?

791
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton?

792
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, chasing a women, single pirate, grew up, play saxophone,

793
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: AstroTurf in the better his truck. I'm glad this is

794
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: a private show. We could say whatever we want as

795
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: long as it's true.

796
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: My black friends in Memphis went talking about Bill Clinton said, yeah,

797
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: we knew he was a scally wag and a dog,

798
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: but he was our dog. That's right. That is exactly

799
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: how the black folks in the southeast, my friends he

800
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: went to.

801
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's smart, Georgetown and Yale, right, yeah, yeah, and

802
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 2: he come from trailer park just like jd.

803
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: Vance. Yeah, it's true.

804
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: You gotta love that matter. We'll cut you our same trailer.

805
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: So my question is this, what is the budget of

806
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: this school?

807
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: The budget is about five and a half million dollars,

808
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: and question rings in about one and a half.

809
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: So there's a four million dollars.

810
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: We make about five hundred net renting that gym out.

811
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: For different things. So now you're three to five.

812
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm three five. We'll probably net a million

813
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: and a half in real estate. Okay, so now you're

814
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: too Yeah, but that's just to stay flat. So right now,

815
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: we now have about forty million in real estate the

816
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 2: school owns, and about fifteen in a bank.

817
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: So where does the two come from? You're not getting

818
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: interest you, I'm.

819
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: Getting money from friends to Mowgli. We got a lot

820
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: of people give us five thousand, one thousand dollars. We

821
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: got caught up and people want to support it.

822
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: You know.

823
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: We got a couple of big guys. I give a hundred.

824
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: All right, So what about school voucher thing? Wouldn't that

825
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: be a big deal? Oh my gosh.

826
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: So we had that for five years of Illinois undergo.

827
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: You had it for Bruce rown Er. Yeah, you can

828
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: take five percent. It was called investing kids. So Illinois

829
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 2: state income taxes five percent flat. So if you're making

830
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: a million dollars, you pay fifty grand. You could steer

831
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: that to Chicago and people. I was like shooting fish

832
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: in a barrel. And when round Or lost to Pritzker,

833
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: they didn't have the guts to take it away. So

834
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: now there's twenty five thousand, mostly black and Spanish kids

835
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: on these scholarships for any Catholic school, independent school in

836
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: the city and so, and it's it's like fifty million dollars.

837
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: It's not going to break the Illinois budget. They're given

838
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: ten times more of that to the Venezuelans. So Governor Pritzker,

839
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: who's heir to the Hyatt company, our four hundred pound

840
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: governor who talks about COVID and health doesn't put it

841
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: in the budget. So they just didn't put it in

842
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: the budget, so it didn't get voted down. So last

843
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: year it ended.

844
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: So it's gone.

845
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, we picked up a million seven off that

846
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: last year and we lost it. But to be fair,

847
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: we did it for fifteen years without it. But it

848
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: puts some little Catholic schools out of business because they

849
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: got used and you can never get used to the

850
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: government money.

851
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: There's a big there's a big governor building here in

852
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee is a huge school voucher. Yeah, did they have

853
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it here kind of but not how he wants it

854
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: to be. But they're working on it. And look, I

855
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: get both sides of the argument. One side is if

856
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: you strip that money out of the public schools, you're

857
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: just gonna make them even worse.

858
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: It's not true. It's not stripping money. They're having one

859
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 2: less kid, so the kid is going, the money's following

860
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: the kid.

861
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: That's the argument. And then the other argument is if

862
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: it costs thirteen thousand dollars per kid in the state

863
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: of Tennessee to send them to public school, if they

864
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: choose not to go to public school, give them a

865
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand dollars voucher to spend it any private school

866
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: they want to, and let them choose how educated. Right, exactly,

867
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: that's the idea.

868
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: So we're sixteen right, the public schools in Chicago, it's

869
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: been thirty per kid. There you go, and the results

870
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: are bet. The results are bad because it's from tough families,

871
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: really tough situations. And the good kids are going to

872
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: the magnet and the other charges. Right, the kids who

873
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: a parent has some.

874
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: Kind which means that public school and the inner city

875
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: continues to get degraded. But here's what's happened now. Nobody

876
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: wants to say it. Our local school manly urshe attended

877
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: when he was there. We're sixteen hundred kids, right, it's

878
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: a big school. There's ninety kids in there, ninety just playing.

879
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Ninety they've gotten the charters. And I haven't seen a

880
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: big black family in twenty five years.

881
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: I used to see seven kids. They might have three

882
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: different dads. But the lady's having a baby, and if

883
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: you had mentioned her the word abortion, she might punch

884
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: your lights out.

885
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: Man. Then I did it.

886
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: It was an article on Sports Illustrated fifteen years ago,

887
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: called the Vanishing Black Player, and they wanted to talk

888
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: to me about it. So they're saying, well, it's money,

889
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: there's no money for fields. And I'm saying, no, that's

890
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: not it. It's a father taught game. And if you

891
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: don't live, nobody's around that guy. Yeah, a grandfather father,

892
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: you're probably not going to play baseball. You're gonna want

893
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: to play eighty seventy nine basketball. Give me the ball, right,

894
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: So no.

895
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: They oh, that made them uncomfortable. Whatever, it made them uncomfortable.

896
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: So anyway, Julianni comes to opening that he's the mayor,

897
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: so we throw out the first pitch. There was some

898
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: major lete, Paul O'Neil, there was some Christian players from

899
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: the Yankees and so, but everybody's gone by the three

900
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: o'clock game, right the three PM game, and I'll remember,

901
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: like I'm we had guys from the drug and alcohol

902
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Rehab with the umpiring crew from the U the Christian

903
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: drug and Alcohol Rehab. So they're umpiring the game and

904
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: it's I'm hearing.

905
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Pop pop pop pop, and it's a.

906
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Shooting battle going on from one rooftop to another one

907
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,720
Speaker 2: the fields in the middle. But they're shooting out people

908
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: over there, and I'm at midfield with these guys and

909
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: they're debating between innings what caliber of weapon it is,

910
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm like, the score is four to three.

911
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm umpiring behind the plate, which I love

912
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: doing because you get to really control what's going on.

913
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 2: Got a big strike zone because you don't want kids

914
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: walking all over the play. And so I just looked

915
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: at them and like, forget it. We didn't even call

916
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: anybody or something. The cops came at one point, but

917
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: that league was phenomenal. That was great and a bunch

918
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: of people that really took it on. So that's why

919
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: the Johnny apple Seed they start one, and uh Nashville

920
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: had one for a little bit on the other side

921
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: of Nashville.

922
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: What are you the ceo? Are you the grand poo

923
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: bother school? What?

924
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: No?

925
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: I was?

926
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: I was CEO of the school until three years ago.

927
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: My son I Brian Sarr, retired chief operating officer of Guggenheim,

928
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 2: who bought the Dodgers. So he did the Dodger deal

929
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: when they bought it. Guys in Chicago on the Dodgers

930
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: Mark Walter So Brian is now Chamber of the Board

931
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: up because it's a movement Bob Youfford started called halftime.

932
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? You made a lot of money.

933
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna go golfing in your sixties and seventies and

934
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: eighties and eat dinner at five o'clock. So he's with

935
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: all that talent you have in money. So Brian Surr

936
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: is now Chamber of the Border Chicago, Hope. And we've

937
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: gotten and your son is the principal, my daughter the

938
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: Notre Dame girl as that mission.

939
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: What are you doing just hanging around?

940
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: I have I'm the f I have influence. I still

941
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: get the vote.

942
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: You still are rounding up?

943
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still we have We say we have to

944
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: stop becoming fob friends of Bob. So uh, but you

945
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: know I'm happy to do it. And there's no mention

946
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: to retirement the Bible.

947
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Right, we're going.

948
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: If you're working out hard, I'm gonna bench squad three

949
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: license time. So we can't run with the kids. You could,

950
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: if you're careful, you could still live with the kid.

951
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bench and squad three fifteen this year and

952
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come on, yeah, are you really?

953
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

954
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: I got two eighty five the other day and they

955
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: put on more and I felt like a truck was

956
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: on my chest. But if you're careful and you don't

957
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: blow your shoulder out, it's.

958
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Sixty five, you're gonna bench. Really. Yeah, I kind of

959
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: hate you right now.

960
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was a tighter. I wasn't oidlined.

961
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't either. I was a safety. Be careful

962
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: what you see today.

963
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: But that's but that's how I had your guard. Now, man,

964
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: you know, pull it down. But that's uh, that's something

965
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: you should still that. Hell, everybody that you should be

966
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: lifting weights for older people. Grandma broke her head. Why

967
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: she does any muscles around her head? When she fell,

968
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: she had no muscles. So we're supposed to stay fit.

969
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: You know, I'm walking that thin line. I don't know

970
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: if you've seen these pas. That's the thing, these electric pads.

971
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: So instead of putting heavy weights on, you have these

972
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: electric pads on. One's tyson fighting that guy this week?

973
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you see him yesterday or the day before?

974
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Something that really likes off. He actually punched the guy. Yeah.

975
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. He's a really sympathetic character. Right,

976
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: he said, you know, he had my favorite quote is

977
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: from Mike Tyson. But everybody's got a game plan until

978
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: they get punched in the face. We're gonna have some

979
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: one more person come up to me. Oh, we have

980
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: a passion to start an inner city school. I'm like,

981
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: I come here, I'll talk you out of it. And

982
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: if I can't talk them out of it, then they're

983
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: going to do it.

984
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Is it?

985
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 2: It's it'll take your whole life. It'll take your whole life.

986
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: But would you give it again?

987
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

988
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: I would have done it a little differently, But I

989
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: would have done it. What would you do different?

990
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have had us be something because it's three

991
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: blocks from my house. All my kids are there, I

992
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: know all the kids. It's all the neighborhood, right. So

993
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: for me, I could roll with that because to whom

994
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: I was forgiven much and my wife's a little so

995
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: it was a little more painful for her. Ala. I

996
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: think ninety five percent of the stuff she wanted to

997
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: happen happened. But some didn't. Like Brentwood Academy, we can't

998
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: like we in our handbook, if you cheat or you steal,

999
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: you're kicked out. Well, freshmen always cheat. He steal because

1000
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. We have no locks in our lockers.

1001
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: We just don't steal. And if you do steal, I

1002
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: would come to the Mica chapl and say I have

1003
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: to I'm responsible for it. So if somebody's ipay I

1004
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: got stolen, I gotta pay for it only Bob. So

1005
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 2: you can always steal from Bob. Right, and the freshmen

1006
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: inevitably steal because they don't get us yet.

1007
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1008
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: So but my wife would be like, well, why do

1009
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: we have a rule book? Then if the kids because

1010
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: the kids kicked out, he's going to join the ice,

1011
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: looks right, so let's make him mop the floor for

1012
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: two weeks, right, some like So there's a lot of

1013
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: the main thing the Christ Center. Place the scriptures on

1014
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: the walls. You're walking, We're solid like that.

1015
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

1016
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: We got approved to be we're the only ones in

1017
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: history to get approved to be charter school eight thousand

1018
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 2: a year per kid. And then the women came from

1019
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: the city hall. Take the scripture off the wall. You

1020
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: can't have chapel till after school. Yeah, so you ketch

1021
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: my hands on a kid, so the parents, we ain't

1022
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: kicking Jesus out of our school. Unonymously in a pack

1023
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: chapel turned the money down eight thousand a year per

1024
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: kid at that time, and I'm all choked out that

1025
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: we're stading for Christ. They were not going to take

1026
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: their money. But behind I'm Jerry Maguire. Show me the monk.

1027
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: No not show you the money. Jerry showed me them.

1028
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: I say it, Jerry, So we don't take the eight

1029
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: thousand a year per kid under Mayor Daily, and Auntie Duncan,

1030
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: who Mayor Daily, said this, I don't care if you

1031
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: call it.

1032
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ High School. You guys do great work. You

1033
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: should get it.

1034
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: I love Daily. He gave us the park on the corner.

1035
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: They were going to take the park. He gave a

1036
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: Christian school a park. Daily was great.

1037
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're doing good work.

1038
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, his Mass every day he would the only thing

1039
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: he would come to every day. His assistant said that

1040
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: he asked to go to because he has to speak

1041
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: at so many events as the opening day of the

1042
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: Little League, to throw out the first pitch, because he's

1043
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: no one's bothering him. He's eating hot dogs, throwing her

1044
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean his father was mayor for twenty four years

1045
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: and he was mayor for like twenty five or something

1046
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: like that. Right, So his father. Here's a great Richie

1047
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 2: Daily senior story the ACLU. In the seventies, the law

1048
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 2: was passed, no major scenes or manoras in public buildings anymore.

1049
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So.

1050
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 2: The ACLU lawyers are up in DC. So Daily invites,

1051
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: this is the father.

1052
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: Early seventies.

1053
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: He invites the head of Moody Bible Institute, the head

1054
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: of the archdiocese, the head of the Jewish thing and

1055
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: all to this meeting on a Friday afternoon with the

1056
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: ACLU up from Washington. No more major scenes in public,

1057
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: no more manias. So they're all there from a guy

1058
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: who was personally there was the assistant to the head

1059
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: of Moody Bible. Once the two ten Christian and Jewish

1060
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: people sitting in there while they still use telling them

1061
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: this is the seventies, Chicago's roughest now, right, So they

1062
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: always nod in this head say okay, we understood, you

1063
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: understand this, mister Mayer, Yes, you understand. On Monday there

1064
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: was a major scene in minor in every single public building.

1065
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

1066
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: He just flipped them off.

1067
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: He just said I understand and talked him what they

1068
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: wanted to.

1069
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: You come take them down?

1070
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: It what happened?

1071
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: Nothing and still on there today. So that's good leadership.

1072
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: That is good leadership, But that's also seems like it's

1073
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: the stick of your school too. Yeah, so what's next, Bob?

1074
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: I'd like to get this new campus bill if you

1075
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: have If you have a forty million dollar check, I'll

1076
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 2: accept that. He's about forty million dollars. You're going to

1077
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: drop a few zero, I'll take four. Hey, it's better

1078
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: to get one hundred guys with ten grand. And I'm

1079
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: sure because if the big guy leaves, you got problems.

1080
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do? You're gonna build a

1081
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: whole new campus.

1082
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have it, wold have been approved. We have

1083
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: it all the time.

1084
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Gym and all this stuff. You tell me. It walks

1085
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: right into the gym.

1086
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you're right here, we're at We're in currently eight

1087
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: blocks away from the gym is our current school. So

1088
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: our kids have an eight block walk every day to

1089
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: get the practice.

1090
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: So are you going to try to connect that? Are

1091
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: you buying the land in the in.

1092
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: The middle, We'll make the current school a K through eight,

1093
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: build a high school over there.

1094
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: I see.

1095
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So and we already have all the plans, and

1096
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: the board said this, look.

1097
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: What about the what about the funding, annual funding for

1098
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: all that.

1099
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: Well we've got We're flipping houses and raising money and

1100
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: people are giving money to stuff like this, right, so

1101
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 2: the voucher thing could come back. But I think that

1102
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: you have to go out on faith, like and that's

1103
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: how everything got done. Look, we start when people come

1104
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 2: who haven't been around for many years, like Bryanton Pony

1105
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 2: came a coach. He's like, are you kidding me? You're

1106
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: still open? Like that's crazy, right, a private school for

1107
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: poor kids. So uh, but there's a lot of people

1108
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: want to fund it. We have actual results. I see

1109
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people getting money from what's the Gates

1110
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: wife and the other ex wife? Will God bless them

1111
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: give them to stuff like that's not effective. They just

1112
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 2: got a million dollars and I know what they do, right, Uh?

1113
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: The Obama Foundation always kidding you know what, The head

1114
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: of the Obama Face Foundation gets paid seven to fifty

1115
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: I'll take that job seven hundred.

1116
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: And fifty thousand a year head.

1117
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: So people do all that and all the building is

1118
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: a giant museum on the park. So I don't know,

1119
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: I just think you come to Hope. This guy, Mike Kaiser,

1120
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: he's one of the best golf course builders in the world.

1121
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: He built Bandoned Dunes in Oregon, and he pops by.

1122
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: I love this guy. He's got a twelve year old

1123
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: car worth of fortune.

1124
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: He goes.

1125
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: I love Hope because when I come by unannounced, When

1126
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: I come by at three o'clock, there's fifty things going on. Right,

1127
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: and you come, don't tell us you're comment of your donor.

1128
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: Just come and see the show.

1129
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: Because we it's had a prison fellowship comes out of there,

1130
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: special Olympics, the cops run break. There's twenty cops that

1131
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: lift in our gym, right, they'll come at lunchtimes. Also

1132
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: they're in lunchtime when it was packing, they're on the

1133
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: bench with their gun. Our gym is like the safest

1134
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: place in the world. So it's really there's a whole

1135
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: bunch of things going on there. So and we rented

1136
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: out to suburban because you hit a button and you

1137
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 2: got eight volleyball courts and there's these all of a sudden,

1138
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: three nights a week, the gym gets white, like from

1139
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: eight to midnight. And these volleyball group they pay us

1140
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: twenty five grand a month to rent it. So we're

1141
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: really scrambling and hustling. We got a little bit of

1142
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 2: a cushion now, and and I think we really need

1143
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: to have something on. I think God called us to

1144
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: build on that land with the having a really good

1145
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: trades program part of the school, and we can go

1146
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 2: to you know, we'd be six hundred and eight.

1147
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: Hundred when you h and your wife gosh, what's her name, Tina,

1148
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: When you and Tina take stock of this facility and

1149
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: what's going to be that you're raising money for and

1150
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: realize it started because you went on a run. And

1151
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: notice six kids on a stoop one day? What does

1152
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: that do for you? Does that make you feel like?

1153
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's good you asked me that because we

1154
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: don't celebrate the victories enough, you know, always.

1155
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: Like pushing them. Should allow yourself.

1156
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 2: To Yeah, I'm better at that than she is. It's

1157
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 2: like like, now, remember Michael Jordan when he was playing

1158
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: nobody except Rodman had crazy hair, right, right, So I'm

1159
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: in the weight room and it's up to two hundred

1160
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars to get a haircut. No, no, kidd'll

1161
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: take me. They got those dreadlocks and their eyes and stuff.

1162
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: So when when I left a seat president, I let

1163
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: that slide because I used to make the kids get

1164
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: haircuts white or black. Right, So now almost I would

1165
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: say more than half the kids have that, right. That

1166
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: takes a lot to maintain. And the reason why black

1167
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: people told me that it's because they're raised by women.

1168
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: So you're in front of the mirror, you're three years old?

1169
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: Are you cute?

1170
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: And so that's why they have all that luk and

1171
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: that just now, that's an interesting thing that just blows

1172
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: my wife's mind.

1173
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: That blows my mind too good.

1174
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: And so that's not at the core with her son.

1175
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 2: This is our son letting that slide, right, because he

1176
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: doesn't think that's important. So and he's in charge. So

1177
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: I'm like at the job interview, you know, but I

1178
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: think that that the most important things matter, and there's

1179
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: a bunch of little things like that that that just

1180
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 2: piss her off. Right, But so she's all hoped out.

1181
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: So she's taking a step back. And we're always involved

1182
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: in fundraising people for dinner and that kind of thing.

1183
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: But I guess what I'm saying is, do you realize

1184
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: are you able to.

1185
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: Celebrate I mean, we got to do that more because

1186
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: f c A comes out of our defensive coordinators at

1187
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 2: an FCA Urban, right, and he's our defensive coordinator too,

1188
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: So you come hope the whole back of our scoreboards

1189
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: on the Eisenhower, one of the busiest house highways in Chicago,

1190
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: So it's really a visible. A lot of people don't know.

1191
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: They think it's a charter school or whatever. But I

1192
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: think we just need to do that more celebrating and

1193
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: we get to celebrate in heaven.

1194
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: Right, you do get to celebrate in heaven. But we

1195
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 1: have fun of that. I have a.

1196
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: Blast with that. We have a saying on my BJ

1197
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: passed away last year. The guy who let me says

1198
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: a beautiful monument with his picture on and has a

1199
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 2: little story about it, and it says his favorite saying

1200
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 2: was we didn't become Christians to be miserable. That's right,

1201
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 2: And so I don't want you to paint a pictures

1202
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: with all the tragedies. We have hundreds of good things

1203
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: going on for every bad thing that happened, and we

1204
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: have a blast. We are in a football bike had

1205
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: coached Chris Mallat African American guy played for Princeton and

1206
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: he was head of gang intervention under Daily and then

1207
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: Ram Emmanuel and Chris about fifty three fifty four. And

1208
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: he's a badass, but he's it's all about leading kids

1209
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: of Christ, the whole pro and so yeah, it's you

1210
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: walk in the gym. It's as huge letters to who

1211
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: much is given, much is required, and so uh yeah,

1212
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: we got to celebrate a little more and just have

1213
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: a little more fun with it. I'm better at that

1214
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: because I'm in the weight room with the kids. I

1215
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: have a blast.

1216
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: I just think you my goodness, you know, half is

1217
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, yeah, and it should be celebrated. And

1218
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: I think maybe if you celebrate it, maybe you bring

1219
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: more people into that tent. Yeah yeah.

1220
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: And where would Jesus love your whole point in the

1221
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 2: vans in the suburbs.

1222
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd be.

1223
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: I think we might make a little uh make people

1224
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: uncomfortable sometimes, right, So I've been great. I spoke down

1225
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: here in Nashville for some Christian equivalent of an inner

1226
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: city school there eighteen years ago. Bro and somebody sold

1227
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 2: their house after that talk and gave it like.

1228
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: A big number.

1229
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: So he should give the house because then he doesn't

1230
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: tie capital games don't sell any But I get your point.

1231
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: I think that.

1232
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: I don't think we've even tapped the people who can

1233
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: support this. A lot of it just coins like that.

1234
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: Joe Mowgli, he's an old friend for many many years.

1235
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Grew up.

1236
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: His father ran a fruit stand in the Bronx. No

1237
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: spritskers could do a lot for you. Yeah, they could

1238
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: do a lot. Mark Walter Guggenhunt, guy big, give it

1239
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: to us a million dollar guy wow a year per year,

1240
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: and so Joe five hundred a year.

1241
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: There's a there's a school here in Memphis called Pure

1242
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: Athletic Athletic, Pure Academy.

1243
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1244
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: The guy on it was a guest, Melvin Cole, and

1245
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: he is doing a private school much arter, and it

1246
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: is all boarding because he has to get his kids

1247
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: out of their environment. And they just very similar a

1248
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: city school that is that was closed because of lack

1249
00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: of student body. Uh. They bought it about three or

1250
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: four years ago and they're now rehabing it and they're

1251
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: trying to do it and it is just you know,

1252
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: it is so much money to get the facility right.

1253
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: I should meet that guy.

1254
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: You should meet that just his name is Melvin Cole

1255
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: and he was he was, uh, maybe we go by

1256
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: his his Uh, he was a he spent time in prison.

1257
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: Drug guy. Actually flew back from Atlanta with a bullet

1258
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: in him bleeding raped tight from right and he uh,

1259
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: he got sent to prison and he watched a man

1260
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: get raped. And he made a deal. He said, that

1261
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: can't happen to me, because I will end up dead

1262
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: if you can save me from that. When I get

1263
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: out of here, I will dedicate the rest of my

1264
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: life to making sure kids don't have to come up

1265
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: like I did. Right, And he did, And he started

1266
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: this academy and he's got kids. He's trying to go

1267
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: into IS but he's he's got thirty kids. He bought

1268
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: a small piece of property and house and started a

1269
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: boarding school in a house, built a campus out of it.

1270
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: Has now bought this school and is. They are right

1271
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: now rehabbing the school to be open next school year

1272
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: on a full campus and boarding and everything. And he

1273
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: is killing himself.

1274
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: Other people like that. Kevin's help them.

1275
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's who needs to be helping.

1276
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: You know, A good friend of mine supporters Bill Haslem.

1277
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Bill Haslm's good guy, great guy.

1278
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 2: You act like a seven to eleven checkout you would

1279
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: never know.

1280
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: No, but he's also a guy that can had a

1281
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: couple of zero spots. Yeah, and and I just wish

1282
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: more people knew about out Melvin. And maybe with your

1283
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: connections and I know where your heart and place is,

1284
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe you could be encouraging to them. But we maybe

1285
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: also there's other people that might be interested in his school.

1286
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question there. And there's usually local people. I

1287
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: would say half our donors are from New York because

1288
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm a New York But.

1289
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's just a pool of people in Chicago,

1290
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: New York. To give to a school like yours is

1291
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: one hundred times the size of the pool in Memphis.

1292
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: But even a memphisis some crazy old money, right. If

1293
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: you're not a believer, there's some good people here, yeah,

1294
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: like Kevin's. So if you're not a believer, how about

1295
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: it load up. But if you're a believer, and then

1296
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: my wife would say that the problem with the Bible

1297
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: belt is everybody thinks they're a Christian, so you don't

1298
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: really The other problem is the most segregated day in

1299
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: the South of Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of compassionate people would give to it. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's had some progress, or somebody's given them money.

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Speaker 1: He's had some progress, somebody has giving us money. But

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Speaker 1: I just hear your story, and you are where he

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Speaker 1: wants to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were just making it up as we

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Speaker 2: go along. Right, I moved to the wrong neighbor I

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Speaker 2: don't have a passion for inner city. I moved to

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Speaker 2: the wrong neighborhood by mistake. I'm loving my neighbors myself.

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Speaker 2: They happen to be black and poor. If they were Afghan,

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Speaker 2: I would help them, right, or Irish or whatever. So,

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Speaker 2: but there's other And to be fair, my business is

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Speaker 2: to find wealthy people investor money. Right. I don't have

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Speaker 2: just wealthy people, but in general my job is to

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Speaker 2: keep rich people rich and make them richer. Right, so

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Speaker 2: that trade don't getting fined your health.

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Speaker 1: You can tap into them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, most guys our peer group won't do that because

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Speaker 2: then you used up a chip. Yeah right, you use

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Speaker 2: the chip and you would have done a business deal

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Speaker 2: with him, but he gave it to your charities and

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Speaker 2: you can't ask them for something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So apparently you feel like you just keep going back.

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Speaker 2: Look, if you asked me, what do I want to

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Speaker 2: be in my fifties and sixties. I want to manage

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Speaker 2: the New York Yankees. But they didn't call me, so

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Speaker 2: I got to raise money. You to think of something

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Speaker 2: you would rather not do, then raise money from your friend.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's the most horrible thing you'd ever

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Speaker 2: want to do. With the calling and the mission is

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Speaker 2: bigger than Bob's ego ego AA has so many greats

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Speaker 2: edging God out right, ego ego edging God out. So

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Speaker 2: I have never ever asked anybody for money. I just

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Speaker 2: tell the story and we talk about it, and then

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Speaker 2: eventually they're going to say, like I said earlier, you know,

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Speaker 2: how can I help or or give you go away money? Right?

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Speaker 1: So where do people go to find out more about

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Speaker 1: the school? Chicago Hope Academy dot org. Chicago Hope Academy

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Speaker 1: dot org. Yeah, and they can help if they want

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Speaker 1: to help.

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Speaker 2: Three one two five sixty five hundred is my cell?

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty cool cell? Say it again?

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Speaker 2: Three one two five nine sixty five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Why is that a cool sell?

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Speaker 2: Because it's sixty five hundred?

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's real because it's you can sayap it, I

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Speaker 1: got it. I thought maybe the numbers meant something. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what what does stories of your life? It could always

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Speaker 1: mean something, Bob, from a dude who grew up in

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Speaker 1: a rough New Jersey neighborhood to what you've accomplished through

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Speaker 1: Columbia and your marriage and your family and the little

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Speaker 1: leagues and the school as good a shape as you're in,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what you do next. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do what he tells me. Man. Thanks for coming to

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Speaker 1: Memphis Tonia Story.

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Speaker 2: Guys, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: And thank you for joining us this week. If Bob

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Speaker 1: or other guests have inspired you in general, or better yet,

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Speaker 1: to take action by donating to Chicago Hope Academy, starting

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Speaker 1: a school, or a little league, by volunteering at one,

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Speaker 1: or something else entirely, please let me know. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear about it. You can write me anytime at

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Speaker 1: Bill at normal folks dot us, and I promise I

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Speaker 1: will respond. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it

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01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,000
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Speaker 1: things that will help us grow an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: The more people, the more impact. Thanks for our producer,

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Speaker 1: Iron Light Labs. I'm Bill Courtney. I'll see you next week.