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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We roll through the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. We have got a ton

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have a lot of fun with all of you.

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Speaker 1: There is a trans congress person and there is a

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Speaker 1: discussion which has never been needed before about hey, which

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Speaker 1: discuss some of that. Sonny Hostin and Matt Gates, what

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Speaker 1: do you think it's fake woman?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Is that too strong? Right out of the game.

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Speaker 1: I think we just go with man. I think we

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Speaker 1: just go with man man man versus fake woman. I

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Speaker 1: can see the arguments in either direction. I think fake

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Speaker 1: woman just calls out the absurdity more than just calling

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Speaker 1: him a man. But I'm open to both arguments. Get

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Speaker 1: coming in hot out of the gate, Sunny Hostin, Matt Gates,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. Elon Musk buys Twitter, and suddenly

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Speaker 1: there is a bad balancing act. Left wingers going insane.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of different clips for you that

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Speaker 1: we will have fun with. But Buck, we begin with

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Speaker 1: your two favorite people in all of media, Joe Scarborough

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Speaker 1: and Mika Persinski remain under fire over their decision to

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Speaker 1: and I actually think it all made sense yesterday afternoon

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Speaker 1: MSNBC and other of their cable assets. So let me

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Speaker 1: just kind of tell you what happened here on Friday.

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Speaker 1: I believe Mike and Joe, at the behest potentially of

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Speaker 1: in the early days of your administration. The idea that

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Speaker 1: you are hitler is going to be cast aside. Congratulations

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Speaker 1: gonna bend the knee Monday, and I thought that was strange.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was stranger still buck on Monday, as

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Speaker 1: we talked about on this program, when Meek n Joe

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Speaker 1: There are lots of people going to see Trump. I

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Speaker 1: saw him on Thursday. Like, there isn't if you don't

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Speaker 2: I don't think going to come out. But Meek n.

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Speaker 1: Joe felt compelled to discuss their meeting with Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: Tuesday afternoon. Buck I was like, it all makes sense now,

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Speaker 1: Win the news from the Wall Street Journal broke. So

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Speaker 1: Friday you apologize Ben the kne to Trump. Monday, you

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Speaker 1: MSNBC is for sale. And I believe we have a

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Speaker 1: cut from Joe Scarborough awkwardly saying, hey, we could get

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Speaker 3: Listen, I will say really quickly on this. You know

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Speaker 3: it drives at the top. Said, oh, like news melt.

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Speaker 2: Down, all this other stuff. I mean, I could be

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Speaker 2: A little bit of it has happens. You never know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But in this case, though, what they're doing is

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Speaker 3: what other media firms are doing. You spin off the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a big story, and I do

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Speaker 1: think there's a panic setting in on MSNBC and CNN.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, this ties everything together. When you and I

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Speaker 4: I don't know what entities like MSNBC or Morning Joe

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Speaker 4: That's one thing I'll say here is we hate getting

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Speaker 1: We've got a few more picks that Trump has put out.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Mehmet Oz. Remember doctor Oz ran for Senate in

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Speaker 4: we were just talking about it, Sean Duffy. There's a

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Speaker 1: says he's so afraid that he's now got a passport

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Speaker 1: in somebody else's name in case he has to flee

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Speaker 1: the country. This is from I believe MSNBC listen.

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Speaker 9: Already working on foreign passport with a completely different name.

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Speaker 9: I don't know how it's going to work. As far

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Speaker 9: as dealing with my wife and my children. I certainly

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Speaker 9: don't want them moving to where I'm looking to go.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think yourself. The president of MSNBC, General

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Speaker 9: Millie Liz Cheney. How many people has he turned around

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Speaker 9: and said that these are people that I intend to

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Speaker 9: go after if I have the ability to.

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Speaker 6: And the worst is.

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Speaker 9: The Supreme Court's recent decision that gave him immunity presidential immunity.

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Speaker 9: Now he thinks it's not only is it I can

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Speaker 9: do whatever I want, but I can't even be prosecuted

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Speaker 9: to get out of jail free card solely for the president.

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Speaker 1: Ada here, you leave the country, I have no choice. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is really funny. But let me start with this book.

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Speaker 1: You worked in the CIA. Would you advise someone to

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Speaker 1: go on television and say they're trying to get a

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Speaker 1: passport from a foreign country and a name different than theirs.

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Speaker 1: That seems like it's probably illegal on the first testry,

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Speaker 1: go find the place where he can go to a

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Speaker 1: non extradition country and find himself, you know, away from

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Speaker 1: you guys in the Trump White House.

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Speaker 2: What a baby clay. It's insane. Okay.

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Speaker 4: First of all, the federal government can basically find you

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Speaker 4: anywhere in the world if they want to, So start

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Speaker 4: with that. Okay, Michael Cohen is not about to disappear

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Speaker 4: in the Hindukush and go.

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Speaker 2: Native, all right, It's not gonna be that hard to find.

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Speaker 2: Laughing about what country would he even go to?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I'm saying. Not if you look

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Speaker 1: up what non extradition countries, there's a lot of bad

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Speaker 1: countries you would not want to live in that are

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Speaker 1: not places you want to go. And fun fact, even

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Speaker 1: non extradition countries. That just means they don't have an

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Speaker 1: extradition treaty. If the US government calls them and they're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: will you give this a give this guy back to US,

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Speaker 1: chances are gonna say, yeah, we don't want this headache.

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Speaker 2: Would you just.

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Speaker 1: Watch a reality television show of Michael Cohen fleeing the

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Speaker 1: country and having you go to like Haiti.

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Speaker 2: I was not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I would watch the heck out of that television show

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Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, and like, I don't even know equators much

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Speaker 1: for let's send him much further, Like Michael Cohen trying

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Speaker 1: to go like all of a sudden, he's a goat

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Speaker 1: herter and Kyrgyzstan or something, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He's like, hey, is this how you milk? Is this

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Speaker 2: how you milk the goats? How do you milk the goats? Hey?

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Speaker 1: He said he didn't want to leave his family. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these people are so freaking crazy, they are so durant.

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Speaker 1: I think Jennings got this right when he said you

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Speaker 1: have to have a level of narcissism that is off

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Speaker 1: the charts for Trump to be elected and for your

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Speaker 1: first thought to be He's gonna put me in prison.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was already president. He hasn't put anybody

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Speaker 1: in prison. Like, what why would he suddenly decide, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know, I gotta go get the morning show host

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC. They can no longer talk to the seven

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand people who watch their show.

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Speaker 2: They're too much of a public threat. They've got to

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Speaker 2: be in prison.

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Speaker 1: Also, you know, it's amazing Donald Trump. They actually did

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Speaker 1: try to lock him up. I mean, they really did

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Speaker 1: prosecute him for nonsense. And now their whole thing is.

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Speaker 2: What if he decides to prosecute us for nonsense?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, your idea of a Michael Cohen show, like,

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Speaker 1: I really, you know, what wat the heck out of that?

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Speaker 2: You know, all, what is.

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Speaker 1: The funniest country that Michael Cohen could flee to for purposes?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Cohen, Michael Cohen sneaking into North Korea?

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Speaker 2: Like at least Trump can't get me here. At least

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Speaker 2: that will be safe.

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Speaker 1: John might turn Michael Cohen back over to Trump because

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Speaker 1: I think they have a pretty good relationship. Like it's true.

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Speaker 1: I think Rocketman may say, we'll give you back Michael.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like, hey, Trump, here's Michael Cohen back.

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Speaker 1: What is the funniest non extra diitible country. First of all,

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Speaker 1: it has to be a felony, right, Am I crazy

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Speaker 1: to use a fake name and get a foreign passport?

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Speaker 1: That has to be something that you could actually go

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Speaker 1: to prison for. So going on MSNBC and saying you're

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Speaker 1: going to do that doesn't seem very smart from a

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Speaker 1: covert fleeing the country move. Like if he did he

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Speaker 1: had gone on and been like, hey, yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: they got me on a lot of this baby oil stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm in real trouble.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a fake passport and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go to somebody do research on the list of non

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Speaker 1: extraditable countries. Oh I can I can name? I mean

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Speaker 1: I could? You want to know some of them? You

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Speaker 1: got Cuba all there? Cuba, Cuba might be the best

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Speaker 1: to go. Well, that's the closest. So that's actually one

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Speaker 1: that people have made it to when they want it.

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Speaker 1: If you don't every want to be arrested in the

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Speaker 1: Cuban government's not going to arrest you. You make it a

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Speaker 1: Cuba you're not going to get You're not going to

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Speaker 1: get deported or you're not going to get to extradited,

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Speaker 1: but you're going to be in Cuba and hope that

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Speaker 1: they're treating you well.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 1: North Korea, Russia, China, and Gola. I don't think Lebanon

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Speaker 1: has an extradition treaty with the United States. You know

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Speaker 1: that's right, because what's the guy's name who fled and

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Speaker 1: was formerly like the huge auto executive that got smuggled

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Speaker 1: out of Japan. He got into into be Root, right,

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Speaker 1: and he's been able.

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Speaker 2: To stay there. Yeah, so Lebanon's on the list.

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Speaker 1: I mean the countries overwhelmingly that are on that list

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Speaker 1: are countries you'd be like, I don't want to live there.

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Speaker 1: What is the funniest country on the list that we

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Speaker 1: could get Michael Cohen to go to and do a

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Speaker 1: reality television show about it? All right, I'm looking up

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Speaker 1: right now, I mean there are like if you're looking,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how long he'd last in Somalia,

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Speaker 1: Like that would be kind of a survival show for him,

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Speaker 1: that Michael Cohen as a Somali pilot Pirate would be

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Speaker 1: a show I would watch. I'm the captain now, I

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Speaker 1: would be all in on that Vietnam. Vietnam is actually

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Speaker 1: really actually really enjoyed my time in Vietnam when I visited,

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Speaker 1: So that's a good that's a good place to go.

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Speaker 1: The Central African Republic, I think they've been through decades

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Speaker 1: of like the worst war, famine, disease, and Huang Guy

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Speaker 1: Bon Guy Cohen and Bon Guy would be a heck

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Speaker 1: of a look. I don't imagine there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: white Americans that are choosing to live in in in

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Speaker 1: in Bon guys.

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Speaker 2: Here are some of the ones.

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Speaker 1: Uh, some of the Iran would be amazing, Michael Cohen,

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Speaker 1: And Iran would be like just showing up with the

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Speaker 1: Ayatola chillin. I can you imagine the zooms I have

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Speaker 1: converted to Islam. It is a beautiful religion. I am

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Speaker 1: now an Iranian citizen Michael Cohen. Uh, yeah, good luck

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Speaker 1: with that one too. That'd be a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: to Americans. Doesn't seem like that would be a really

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Speaker 1: smart move, But maybe maybe he would be a great

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Speaker 1: fit thing Afghanistan.

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Speaker 4: Afghanistan with a Taliban in charge, mind you, like there's

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Speaker 4: no more you know, it's not like the Northern Alliance

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Speaker 4: is going to keep you safe in the north anymore? Yikes,

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Speaker 4: not good, not not a fun, not a fun place

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Speaker 4: to be. So there's a I mean, the list is

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Speaker 4: pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm I'm all in.

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Speaker 1: I encourage Michael Cohen to commit a felony, get an

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Speaker 1: illegal passport, change with with a fake name, and then

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Speaker 1: I want him to go to Iran. I want him

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Speaker 1: to go to Cambodia. I want him to go to

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Speaker 1: one of these countries that I have no idea about.

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Speaker 1: And I would watch a reality television show about Michael

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Speaker 1: Cohen starting his life back over there. Sure he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of marketable skills. Smally pirate Michael Cohen. I

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Speaker 1: mean I would, I would try that out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know this guy was. It's amazing too.

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Speaker 1: He was Trump's lawyer for so many years. And now

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Speaker 1: he's talking about fleeing the country and have you get

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Speaker 1: a passport, you know, like buck he's bragging about that

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Speaker 1: has to again, it has to be a felony to

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Speaker 1: get a foreign passport under a different name like that

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Speaker 1: can't be legal. I mean, if you if I told you,

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Speaker 1: like you your brother you've got a single brother. If

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Speaker 1: your brother was like, hey, I got a new girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, what does she do? Well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: really sure, but she has a foreign passport in a

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Speaker 1: different name. You'd be like, you know, maybe you could

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Speaker 1: pride somebody else to date. It's not a great choice.

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Speaker 4: Problem for sure. Yeah, I look, Michael Cohen is not

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Speaker 4: leaving the country. It's absurd, you know. I think I

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Speaker 4: mentioned that Ava Longoria, you know, and I think we

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Speaker 4: mentioned on the show that she actually is. She's already

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Speaker 4: been out so she lives in like Madrid, and you know,

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Speaker 4: she lives in fancy places around the world already, so

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Speaker 4: it's not like she's giving up her life in America.

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Speaker 4: She already spends most of the year abroad, so that

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Speaker 4: wasn't some big change. But she's saying, oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to live abroad also, Like it's just so silly,

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Speaker 4: isn't it, you know what I mean? Like, what are

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Speaker 4: I really even talking about? What do they think is

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Speaker 4: going to happen to them? There's bigger there's bigger fish

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Speaker 4: to fry. I do give them credit.

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Speaker 1: At least if you say, if somebody wins an election

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Speaker 1: in either direction that you are leaving the country, you

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Speaker 1: should have to leave the country because ninety nine percent

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Speaker 1: of the people who say if Trump wins, I'm leaving

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Speaker 1: the country, never leave. At least if you're gonna make

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Speaker 1: that statement, follow up with it when the election actually

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Speaker 1: Uh, Jim and Charleston, South Carolina. Jim, what have you

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Hey, y'all doing a great job. I just think it

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Speaker 5: is a good time for a rush quote about the

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Speaker 5: nominees the left or not by partisan? Somebody give me

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Speaker 1: Look, first of all, thanks for the call. I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this in a little bit. Some

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Speaker 1: things there is no room for bipartisanship on like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy is a dude pretending to be a chick.

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Speaker 1: How do you bypartisan? That which is the controversy right now?

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Speaker 1: It's a true binary in every sense.

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Speaker 2: It is or is not. It is true or it

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Speaker 2: is not, that is it. I think there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of those issues.

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Speaker 1: By the way, my wife weighed in on the illegal

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Speaker 1: on the leaving and.

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Speaker 2: Becoming a citizen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, where would Laura make you, guys go if you

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Speaker 1: had to flee the country. I know I'm going monta Negro. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Laura would be well versed on this. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is My wife has been getting paper maps because she's

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Speaker 1: convinced that the Internet is going to collapse and we're

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Speaker 1: going to have civil war at some point. So paper

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Speaker 1: maps have been arriving at my house so that you

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Speaker 1: could figure out how to get around.

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Speaker 2: In the country.

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Speaker 1: But she points out I think it's it's a good

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Speaker 1: point that most countries it is insanely hard to become

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Speaker 1: a citizen. Yeah, you can't just suddenly become a citizen.

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Speaker 1: There's a few Caribbean islands where but they have extradition treaties.

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Speaker 1: Most places won't allow you to just show up and

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Speaker 1: become a citizen. The United States is actually incredibly rare

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Speaker 1: in its openness to the idea of immigration. Buck Japan

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Speaker 1: and China, you can't become a citizen. It's almost impossible

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Speaker 1: if you aren't born in Japan and China for those

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Speaker 1: countries to allow you to ever become a citizen. We

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about immigration policy and everything else. Very

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Speaker 1: rarely do we look external to the United States and

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Speaker 1: point out how rare it is that we are as

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Speaker 1: open as we are to as many different people as

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Speaker 1: we are.

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Speaker 2: And I do think it was funny.

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Speaker 1: I was out to dinner last night and one of

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Speaker 1: the guys brought up Trudeau just out of nowhere, buck

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Speaker 1: posting a video saying, yeah, we're basically done with immigration

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Speaker 1: in Canada. They've been letting people in left and right.

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Speaker 1: Trudeau is the ultimate left wing beta male, and suddenly

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Speaker 1: even he is like, yeah, you know what, We've actually

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Speaker 1: let in too many immigrants and we're shutting the door.

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Speaker 2: For the next three years.

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Speaker 1: That's how much the discussion has changed on immigration, not

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Speaker 1: only here in the United States with Trump's victory, but

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Speaker 1: even in place like America's top hat of Canada, they're

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Speaker 1: looking around and saying, yeah, maybe we've been way too open.

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Speaker 4: Cana's a lot smaller than us and smaller than us.

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Speaker 4: If you take in too many foreigners, you don't have

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Speaker 4: a country anything, right,