WEBVTT - Andor Season 2 (Episodes 10-12) Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Warning.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's episode contains spoilers for the final chapter and Or

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<v Speaker 2>season two episodes ten through twelve, so big spoilers be warned.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Mersey Night and welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to x Ravision, the podcast where.

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<v Speaker 4>and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus this episode. I can't believe it's already here. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel real. It is the final episodes of Andor,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means the final episodes full stop.

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<v Speaker 3>I kept watching the show and thinking, oh, we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>these characters. No wrong, this is the final episode of

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<v Speaker 3>a who knows, who knows?

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<v Speaker 4>Whether we.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I would. There's lots of people I

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<v Speaker 3>like to see it.

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<v Speaker 4>Claia, Claia.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about that and more once we get into

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<v Speaker 3>our recap of the final three episodes of Andor.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, episode two ten and Or season two. It is

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<v Speaker 2>one year before the Battle of Yavin. A message alert

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<v Speaker 2>flashes at Luthen's shop. Meanwhile, Lannie is heading into the

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<v Speaker 2>office while Luthen and Claire are also preparing for some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of operation. It's clear that a bunch of different

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<v Speaker 2>strands are converging. And remember this is now some time

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<v Speaker 2>after mon Mathma has been spirited off the planet. The

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<v Speaker 2>Empire is really cracking down now, particularly on Coruscant, the capitol,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody is on edge. Luthan and Clea are armed,

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<v Speaker 2>and Luthan all but says goodbye to her, like every

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<v Speaker 2>time they part. You get the feeling certainly that Luthan thinks,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows, maybe I don't come back, maybe we don't

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<v Speaker 2>come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Because it's so tense right now. He goes to meet Lonnie.

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<v Speaker 2>Lonnie says Deirdre is about to launch a mission aimed

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<v Speaker 2>at finding spies, namely Luthan's network, who they're focused on.

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<v Speaker 2>And worse, Lonnie says, I'm burned. It's only a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of time before, like a matter of hours really before

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<v Speaker 2>they before they know it's me, and I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get out. I need to get out now, because we've

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<v Speaker 2>got maybe I don't know, an hour to an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half before they know it's me. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get out of here. We need to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss my exit strategy, which you had promised me, and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Need we need to discress.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get my family out and tells me right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he tells Luthen, here's here's what's going on. I've

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<v Speaker 2>had Deirdre's computer codes for a year. I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>across all of her messages, everything on her computer. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't tell you because I knew if I told you, you

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<v Speaker 2>would have pushed me to use it sooner. Which, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Lonnie, you probably should have told him, because

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<v Speaker 2>maybe what happens now would not have happened any.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd have given him a little bit more leeway,

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<v Speaker 1>like yea little bit more lead in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>So Lonnie found something huge, like physically huge and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and in terms of galactic politics huge. Uh it is

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<v Speaker 2>we were about to found out find out the shadow

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<v Speaker 2>of the Death Star in information and intelligence.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically because Luthan is like, well, how do you know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're not on you right now? And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>if they were on me right now, I'd be dead,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be gone. And so then Luthen pushes, what is

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<v Speaker 2>this thing? What did you find? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And so Lonnie in a rush puts all the pieces together. Gorman,

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<v Speaker 2>what did we need on Gorman, the calkite Jetta, the crystals,

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<v Speaker 2>the kyber on Jetta, what did we need that for?

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<v Speaker 2>Scaref is involved in this. Also, there's an imperial and

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<v Speaker 2>scientist named Galen Er. So it all ties back to

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<v Speaker 2>some massive weapons project, some huge super weapon that the

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<v Speaker 2>Empire is making, and they needed all these ingredients from

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<v Speaker 2>these different planets in different places to put this all together.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Luthen tells Lannie, Okay, I'll get.

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<v Speaker 4>You to Yavin.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get you out of here once I get what

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<v Speaker 2>I need, he says, and then off camera he kills Lannie.

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<v Speaker 4>He shoots him.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I mean, luthn Is has been ruthless.

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<v Speaker 2>He killed Tay, He's done stuff. This is the first

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<v Speaker 2>time where I'm like, wow, I don't know about this one, Luthan,

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. I really don't know about this one,

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<v Speaker 2>because Lannie he is part of the Empire now every

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<v Speaker 2>turn he has been there, and every turn. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was him that put Luthan on the double agent

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<v Speaker 2>in bail Organa's group that was gonna arrest man Mathma

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<v Speaker 2>before she could make the speech right afterwards, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was him feeding him information all the time about Gorman,

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<v Speaker 2>letting him know something's going on Gorman. And now here

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<v Speaker 2>he is giving you all the evidence you need to

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<v Speaker 2>put together the Death Star project to understand that the

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<v Speaker 2>Empire is working on this super weapon, and you kill him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's pretty tough. I think it's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's brutal, But I will say Luthen at

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<v Speaker 1>this point has realized like, this is the thing, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing I gotta make sure no one else

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<v Speaker 1>finds out about. And they know that they have this

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<v Speaker 1>torture instrument and the doctor who can torture info out

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<v Speaker 1>of people. And I think this is a tying up,

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<v Speaker 1>loose sentence, but it is incredibly.

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<v Speaker 3>Ruthless and shows you just how committed.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think is we saw him begin to crack

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<v Speaker 2>up in the previous three episodes, the pressure getting to him,

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's arguing with Claya, the way he's was

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<v Speaker 2>saying to her, you know, I told you it was

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<v Speaker 2>bad idea to put the bug in there. And the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure is only ratcheted up now. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>in such a fatalistic mood that he doesn't think any

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<v Speaker 2>of them are getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Claia and Luthen discuss this, that they're pulling on these threads,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not really sure where they go, and they

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<v Speaker 2>separate and say, okay, we're gonna meet up later. Luthen

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to the shop to destroy the communications equipment,

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<v Speaker 2>pouring acid on it.

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<v Speaker 4>But then the doorbell rings and it's Deirdre. Oh this bitch, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this fucking bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>And he puts on his mask, you know, that aristocratic

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<v Speaker 2>art dealer mask, and he goes out and he's making

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<v Speaker 2>chit chat. And then she takes out an Imperial StarPath unit,

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<v Speaker 2>a navigator for hyperspace travel, which Luthan has been trafficking

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<v Speaker 2>to the rebellion for some time, has been setting all,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like helping coordinate and manage the theft of

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<v Speaker 2>imperial hardware to use for its use by the rebellion.

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<v Speaker 2>And dejs elated at this moment. She's been waiting for this,

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<v Speaker 2>she's been waiting to catch access. She never got to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and here she is now finally putting, putting

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<v Speaker 2>it all together, and it's and you could see how

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<v Speaker 2>thrilled she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got the man speaking of people who are cracking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the absolute just desperate obsession that Deirdre has is

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<v Speaker 1>shining through in every moment here, like you know that

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to go well for you if

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<v Speaker 1>you are smart. Yes, actually she is not smart, and

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<v Speaker 1>Denise Goff brings her to life with such an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watery eyed, like edgy desperation where you can tell,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've watched the show, you're like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels like it's jumped, like quite exponentially from the

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<v Speaker 1>last place we've seen Dedra that she would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to now command this grade.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we'll find out, that is not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>The mistake on her part, I think, and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it later, but yes, I'm glad you brought that up,

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<v Speaker 2>because the depiction of the Empire is a complete snake

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<v Speaker 2>pit where where that is run by ambition by two

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<v Speaker 2>powerful forces. One the ambition of all of these players

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<v Speaker 2>who are looking to move up the hierarchy to get

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the emperor yep. And two that desire to

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<v Speaker 2>please the emperor and not the target of his anger

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<v Speaker 2>leads to this intense backstabbing type of environment that Deirdre

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<v Speaker 2>does not truly realize that she is in it turns it.

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<v Speaker 2>She tells Luthen the shop surrounded, you're not getting out

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<v Speaker 2>of here, and that's it. And then Luthen takes a

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<v Speaker 2>victory lap anyway, which I love for him, where he

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<v Speaker 2>basically says, it's too late.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you got me. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebellion is spread. It's everywhere now, it's everywhere around the galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>They all see you, they know who you are. You

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you can't do anything about it. And

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<v Speaker 2>Deirdre notices that the comms have been that they're smoking

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<v Speaker 2>in the other room. She runs over there to go

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<v Speaker 2>see what's happened, and when she turns back, Luthen is

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<v Speaker 2>like cut his like a samurai has taken in that

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ancient blades from his shop room and

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<v Speaker 2>like cut open his belly.

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<v Speaker 4>Menex rush him away.

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<v Speaker 2>Deirdre is desperate in her hope that he lives. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the crowd, Claya is.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching all of this, Yeah, because Dedra, like the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to recognize here as well, is this is

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<v Speaker 1>about access. It is about the imperial stuff that's being

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<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Shipped around. But Dedra has always known.

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<v Speaker 1>That it is likely a kind of rebel, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>circuit that is the origins of the rebel and rebellion.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, she's not wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she needs Lutheran alive because she wants him

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her everything. She doesn't just want to catch

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's been selling Imperial you know, secrets.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants she has exact evidence.

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<v Speaker 4>Unless she brings him in, she has no trophy. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's that pride that brings her down.

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<v Speaker 2>So Partigas complaints absolutely to Dedra, like, okay, this raid

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<v Speaker 2>went poorly.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy is almost dead. Who told you to do

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<v Speaker 4>this on your own authority?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he gets the news that Lannie is dead,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, the ISB is like going through the shop.

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<v Speaker 4>Dedri doesn't really realize that she's in trouble at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's still one.

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<v Speaker 2>She thinks she's she's like riding a high, even though

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<v Speaker 2>she realizes this is like if he doesn't live, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a problem. Clay goes to the safe house,

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<v Speaker 2>where she is utterly devastated, and now we get a flashback.

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<v Speaker 2>We hear we hear Imperial radio chatter about like an

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<v Speaker 2>ongoing massacre that the Empire is doing. You just hear

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<v Speaker 2>them talking about wiping out pockets of resistance here and there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's luthen Is in some sort of command ship,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, at the comms and listening to all

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<v Speaker 2>of this and clearly like shaken, And this is Clay's reminiscence.

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<v Speaker 2>Luthen Is is clearly upset and tortured at the sounds

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<v Speaker 2>of this massacre. He's a sergeant in the Imperial Army,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's making every excuse to not take part in this, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I came into. I came in to like change

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<v Speaker 2>my shoes. Oh I had to I had to reboot

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, you know, Like he's making all kinds of excuses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also like there's this moment where he's basically

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<v Speaker 1>just like crying in the and he's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Just make it stop, just make it stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can tell that he is struggling with his

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<v Speaker 1>role in this space.

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<v Speaker 2>So he finds in a very Aliens type moment, he

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<v Speaker 2>finds Alien in a like event of his ship, a

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<v Speaker 2>young girl who's hiding from this masker, and he keeps

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<v Speaker 2>her safe back at the safe house. Present, Claya gets

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<v Speaker 2>some gear that's hidden like in the safe house, and

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<v Speaker 2>she heads out to go to the hospital to At

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<v Speaker 2>the time, I was very hopeful that she's trying to

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<v Speaker 2>rescue Luthan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she is had. I had a realization.

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<v Speaker 1>Very early on, like as they were doing the flashbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, she's going to save her

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<v Speaker 1>Like sorry, get that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was like, oh, no, what would what

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<v Speaker 3>would Luthan?

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<v Speaker 4>What would Luthen do? What would her father? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, So he is alive. Luthen is alive. He's clinging

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<v Speaker 2>to life in the hospital. They're pouring the bacta into

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<v Speaker 2>onto his abdomen and but sadly for Deeterer, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>unable to be interrogated at this time. They think maybe tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe in a couple of days. Claya fakes an injured arm.

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<v Speaker 2>She gets in the hospital. She it's it's a uh.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to see her in action, which is like wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a excellent spy with incredible nerves. And Deirdre meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>she reports the part of gas that he'll be ready

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<v Speaker 2>for He'll be ready for interrogation tomorrow, Luthen will, but

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately she is being arrested by a party gas and

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<v Speaker 2>here's where she messed up. You know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's so interesting that like people have been lauding

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<v Speaker 2>this character for like being a girl boss.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>About the empire is don't outshine your boss. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the rule. And has told her this multiple times. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, keep me in the loop. Don't out shine

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<v Speaker 2>because if you outshine your boss, now, your boss is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be gonna run, feel that you're a threat, and

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<v Speaker 2>also be unable to protect you when you step out

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<v Speaker 2>of line. And this is what she has done. This,

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<v Speaker 2>this mission of hers, this rate of hers, has gone sideways,

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<v Speaker 2>and someone is to blame. And it turns out that

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<v Speaker 2>and rebellion spy has had access to her computer. There's

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of evidence that points at Dedra and it's bad.

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<v Speaker 4>So she's arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, we get another flashback to Lutheren and Clay now

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<v Speaker 2>on the run, living by their wits across the galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>and Claia is a little older now they see imperials

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<v Speaker 2>rounding up prisoners, partisans. It turns out like like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just rebels who went into the hills to take pot

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<v Speaker 2>shots at the empire or whatever. And maybe they're truly

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<v Speaker 2>that or maybe they're not. It doesn't matter. The empire

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<v Speaker 2>just like guns them down. They're mostly kids, but the

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<v Speaker 2>empire executes them. And Claia, against Luthan's admonitions, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to watch. She wants to watch him, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like in the way that when you lose the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Finals you want to watch the winning game. You

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<v Speaker 2>got to get that anger in your heart, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And she catches up with Luthan and she's furious, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's seeing kids her age gun down. And she says,

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<v Speaker 2>when do we start fighting back? You you never want

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<v Speaker 2>to fight back? When do we do it? And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing that is the core of his

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy we fight to win. That means we lose and lose,

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<v Speaker 2>and lose and lose until we're ready. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>that is Luthen in a nutshell. We can't if we

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<v Speaker 2>strike back now, they'll crush us and we can't win.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to be careful and we need to be quiet,

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<v Speaker 2>and we need to get strong, and that means we

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<v Speaker 2>need to take this.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to wait for the moment that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 2>Claia, it like, eventually gets into Luthen's room and she

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<v Speaker 2>does this by you know, killing killing a bunch of stormtroopers,

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<v Speaker 2>them slowing up some stuff, and she gives Lutha a

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<v Speaker 2>tender kiss on the forehead and it's very emotional, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she unhooks life saving equipment and she stands there

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<v Speaker 2>for a moment to make sure that he's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he dies, and then she.

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<v Speaker 3>Has a single tear rolling down her face.

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<v Speaker 2>We get a flashback Luthen and Clia in nicer clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Now she's very amidala coated. At this point, it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>They're on the way, young woman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're on the way. The rebellion, for all we know,

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<v Speaker 4>might just be them, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think at this point it definitely could be.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the nascent years.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like them and maybe Saw, but like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not communicating in any kind of way, and they're scouting

0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Imperial troops that are guarding a bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>She wants to strike.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to They've planted some explosives out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to blow it up. Lutheren says, patience. They

0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.800
<v Speaker 2>argue about it. She calls him a coward for not

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. He knows that she's just angry and she

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<v Speaker 2>just wants to strike out. He's trying to teach her

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<v Speaker 2>about patients. He gives her the detonator, but she hesitates,

0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.480
<v Speaker 2>and then he reaches for it and he takes as it.

0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.560
<v Speaker 2>He presses it. The explosions happen on the bridge, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he coaches her, don't look yet now, yeah, you know,

0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know how to do it before because she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to see them explode.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was such a good, good moment. He's like,

0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.399
<v Speaker 1>don't look because then they're fucking.

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.080
<v Speaker 4>No, they'll know then look now look after.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exploded and everybody's screaming, and.

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.080
<v Speaker 4>And then he's like, okay, now it's the time to leave.

0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 4>They're in this.

0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And he's also like he was like, you you made

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<v Speaker 1>this choice. You wanted to strike so okay, I'm doing it.

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't take it back now, like this is the war.

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.240
<v Speaker 2>And then we go back to the hospital. Cleya detonates

0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.840
<v Speaker 2>some explosives that she planted in a locker is a distraction.

0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.040
<v Speaker 4>She gets up. She shoots a couple of stormtroopers, which

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<v Speaker 4>is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes in unhooks Luthen's back to life saving equipment, kisses

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<v Speaker 2>him on the forehead, make sure like she stands there

0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.119
<v Speaker 2>for a minute to make sure that he's dead, and

0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.679
<v Speaker 2>then she escapes and it's rip to absolutely one of

0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>the heroes of the Rebellion, secret.

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Hero, true secret here is the Rebellion.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, like his name will never be said, he will

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<v Speaker 2>never get a mess said.

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.439
<v Speaker 1>It would just be us saying Lotha was right, Like

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.280
<v Speaker 1>he was hard he was hard core, but he knew

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<v Speaker 1>what you had had to be done. He understood that

0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>this was the information, This was the moment, Like can

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.480
<v Speaker 1>we stop this this weapon? You know? Also, can I

0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.800
<v Speaker 1>just say, like I truly we we talked about Tony Gilroy,

0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:20.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, as we call him the tone Zone.

0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.800
<v Speaker 4>He never misses ever, never once.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how he pitched this to Disney

0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and was like, Hey, so we got three episodes left,

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're leading into Rogue one and the first episode isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to have and or in it.

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<v Speaker 3>How'd you feel about that? Like, it's an unbelievable kind.

0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Of almost it's not a bottle episode because it is

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<v Speaker 1>so directly connected to everything going on, but it really

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 1>is about Claya in a way we haven't focused on

0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>her before, and it is about Luthen and it's about Deddra,

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:50.919
<v Speaker 1>And by the end of it, I was just so

0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:55.520
<v Speaker 1>emotionally invested in Claia and in this character and in

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the complexity because we've never known Lutheran as like a

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>loving person. In fact, Clayre constantly complains about working in

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the shop and her hatred for just like being there

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and the same people she sees every single day coming through,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always thought that was kind of a reservation

0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.720
<v Speaker 1>about what they were doing, but actually it's she was

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>angry because she wants to be out.

0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.119
<v Speaker 4>Killing people more active.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Lutheran obviously wouldn't let her because he loves

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<v Speaker 1>her and because he's trained her ever since she was

0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.720
<v Speaker 1>a child, so she's an incredibly useful asset.

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.359
<v Speaker 3>For him to have so close. And I just thought, like,

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:31.719
<v Speaker 3>what an unbelievable episode.

0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.239
<v Speaker 1>When the credits rolled on her kind of crying, I

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.919
<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh man, this show has got the juice.

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Like it's never was questioned, but it's juicy as hell.

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.919
<v Speaker 3>It's juicy, it's saucy, it it's doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode eleven, moments after Clea's raid on the hospital. It's

0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>a fucking debacle over there. The suspect is dead, no witnesses.

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.560
<v Speaker 2>The raid was so effective that they think maybe three

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<v Speaker 2>people did it.

0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I love it that, like we're guessing, we're thinking about

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 1>three people by how it happened, and I'm being that

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>just one bad ass guys that wasn't you want?

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Ready for her?

0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>And Officer Heart of the ISB wants to place this

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<v Speaker 2>who's was working closely with Lonnie previously in the season,

0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 2>wants to place this entire thing at Deirdre's at Dedra's feet.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing that I love about this show and

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 2>the storytelling you said it, Tonzo never misses, is this contrast,

0:21:52.720 --> 0:22:01.560
<v Speaker 2>this duality between the way this nascent rebellion is is

0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 2>training and becoming better with each passing generation, and the

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.120
<v Speaker 2>way the Empire is becoming more incompetent with each passing generation.

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Because the rebellion needs good people, people who not just

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.360
<v Speaker 2>want to fight and have the will to fight, have

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 2>that rebellious spirit, but eventually people who like understand what

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>it takes, are patient enough or ruthless enough, who understand

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:32.600
<v Speaker 2>of when the moment is right to strike and there's

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>this naturally almost like a sharpening of the blade process

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 2>as people die, as Luthen dies, but the information he

0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:42.160
<v Speaker 2>passed on to Cassian, to Clay, etc. Makes them better,

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 2>makes them stronger, and makes them a better weapon for

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 2>the rebellion.

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Imperial side, because it's such a snake pit, you're watching

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and incompetent, like heret try to pin it all on Dedra. Now,

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to be fair, Deadra was politically inept.

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:06.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't know this was DEDs scheme.

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:11.479
<v Speaker 2>She's clear yet politically inept, but good at hunting, like

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 2>good at yes, Like there's a world in which, right,

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 2>there's a world in which you'd be like, well, Dead's

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 2>good at this.

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Let's just take all the other stuff off her plate.

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And we get this good moment that come that's coming

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>up soon where she kind of is like, yeah, I'm

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a fucking scavenger bitch like I had to be because

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you motherfuckers will never give me anything because.

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Because of this this backstabbing. Everybody climb over each other,

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, put your boot on the other person's head

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.640
<v Speaker 2>as you climb up the ladder type of atmosphere. All

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're getting is the most ruthless and the most incompetent.

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>They can't wait to kill somebody and move them out

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>of the way so they can move up, and that's cure.

0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 2>And he very effectively places this the entire blame for

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 2>everything on Dedra, who is in acceluating interrogation. Krenick enters

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 2>herself and he just says, who else knows? She's like,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what what are you talking about? And he's like, what

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 2>what would I be talking about? Why would I be

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>here saying cryptic shit?

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.240
<v Speaker 4>Like? Who else knows knows about? What? What's the only

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 4>thing that I'm working on?

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 5>Shit?

0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>She's like, do you mean Axis? And he's like, shut

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the fuck up, I'm shit. No, He's like, I am

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Ben Mendelssohn. Do you know how much they have to

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 1>pay me to bring me into this show? Do you

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>know how important.

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<v Speaker 3>This must be?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I connected to me?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, come on, what?

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 3>And she's like oh, and he says, say say the

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 3>fucking words.

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she's like death Star and he's like, that's right. Oh,

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 2>who else knows about it? And he thinks she's a

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 2>rebel spy.

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I just have to say I love this moment because

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>This is so presciently in conversation with the audience. From

0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:01.159
<v Speaker 1>the first time we met Dedro, we were all like,

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>why is she so obsessed with this? Like why is

0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>she specifically connected to Axis? Like is she And there

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of conversation, is she a rebel spy?

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Is she like so deep undercover and she's forgotten it?

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>And I love that. Actually the answer is no, she

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>is a fascist, but she became so obsessed with the

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 1>rebellion that she was keeping things to herself.

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 3>As we find out.

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<v Speaker 1>She has been keeping secrets from the empire and even

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the man that she would love to impress, Krenick think

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>she's a rebel spy because of her behavior. I mean,

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that's such brilliant storytelling, because there's no you would never be.

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, he's so dumb, She's so loyal, why would

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 3>he think that. No, she's consistently been.

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Going against the orders of the empire, not for a

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>good reason, and again.

0:25:49.000 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>She loves glory.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And again it's this great contrast between like, you know,

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Luthen was similarly a secret didn't tell people about anything,

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.879
<v Speaker 2>didn't tell Cassie, and then he went to visit Bit.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But that was by necessity in this very small, tight

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>knit group, whereas in the bureaucracy that Deirdre finds herself

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that she knew all this stuff that

0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't passing on because she, I think naturally felt like, well,

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>if I tell, if I'd move this information on, it

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 2>will just get lost in the shuffle.

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 4>That's but that's not your job.

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Credit, Yes, And I love the fact as well that

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.479
<v Speaker 1>we learn here that Dedre is not the most like

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>loyal kind of servant that she would portray herself to

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>be because she accidentally, as we know from season one,

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>ended up with all this intel, which is how she

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>found access and how she became so obsessed with it.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 3>But now we learn that that intel.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>Was also talking about Galen Erso, also talking about the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>death stuff, and she never told part of guys. And

0:26:56.160 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>now she's in trouble because they essentially see her almost

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>as a whistleblower. But she didn't blow the whistle, but

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 1>she has that exaction that's dangerous.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 2>That's actually exactly right. Galen Arso has been disappeared off

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the face of the galaxy. Nobody knows about him, and

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that he's working. That's nickers I love it, but Dedra knows,

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>and because Lannie has had for a year access to

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>her computer, the rebellion probably knows now too, which she

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>is mind blown about this.

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and they have his login to her, uh you know,

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>her info. They're like, he was there for three hours

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And Kranick has like this fucking his finger on her

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>head and he's like, what do you think what do

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you think that he was getting out of there? What

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>do you think Lannie was getting from there? And it's

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>so scary, like and Denise Gov's acting is so good

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>in this moment that I couldn't tell. I was like,

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>does Krenick use the force? Like it looks like he's

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>physically harming her, but I think it's just for not

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, she is understanding like, oh, I

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>was meant to catch these people, but now I've given

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>them the information that they needed and I've failed to

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a level that I could never have even imagined. She

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is so scared in that moment, She is so horrified,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and she's so upset because she's not going to get

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>that glory she's been seeking this entire time.

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 2>So Krenick is like, why did you go to you know,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>if you knew that it was this important. Why did

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>you confront Luthen alone? That was dumb And Deirdre's like, well,

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>we need to look for Claya the assistant and all this,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>and she thinks I think at that point she still

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 2>thinks she's getting out of this cell, which she never will.

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she's like, I know what's next, guys, I'm

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna go.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 4>She's still thinks she's good.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>She thinks she's still running this investigation, which here goes

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital where he's now running point on the investigation,

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>and we see his methods. Now he's suspicious of everyone.

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>He's he's threatening everyone with the rest if they get

0:28:56.040 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 2>in the way. He's and he is just like a sledgehammer.

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>No subtlety at all to this guy. The idea Claire eventually.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, but he is the only one

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>who understands and spots her out, like there's something to

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>his methods. He's the one who's like, there's not three people,

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just her, Like we need to find this woman.

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's very interesting to see the difference between

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>him and Dedra because they have a similar obsession with

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>gaining traction in the empire.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 3>But he is. Yeah, he's not keeping any secrets.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>He's telling everyone like just do this, do that, and

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the person we need to catch.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 3>He he did tell Dedra earlier.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe last episode or maybe in the last chunk

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 1>of episodes, he said, did you ever consider the reason

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>that Park has made me in charge of this is

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>because I don't care about the glory? And I thought

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that was a very interesting I think this is a

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>man driven by just hatred.

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 3>He just wants to kill Clay.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 4>And he's no, I don't even think it's said. He's

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 4>just an attack dog. He is.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>To put the thing about a dog is it's loyal

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and you can kick it in it come right back, Dedra.

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Don't want to be in charge of the dogs. You know,

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>she wanted to be the boss. She wanted to.

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Move up the dog and that was ultimately her downfall.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Cleia digs some old coms gear like out of the

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>walls and takes a huge risk to send a message

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>of a like a distress message to the rebellion. We

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>go to Yavin, where you know the rebellion is gathering strength.

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 2>People are arriving all the time. Will Uh comes home

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>to Drina telling him, Hey, what's this box in your bed.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 4>That's like beeping? And Will's like, oh, ship, that's the

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 4>distress message.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Specifically or from the network on Corousont, but likely Yeah.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 4>So Cassian is in his tent.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>He's playing cards with Melchie and K two and they're

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>having a great time and they're teaching, you know, K

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>two is learning about humans. It's a wonderful Then Will

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>comes in and basically says, hey, we got to we

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>got to stress signal from the network on Courson isb

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>armed with Claya's ID, put her face all over the

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>galactic news everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, Critics like I want her found,

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Search every farmhouse, hand house, out house, and doghouse until

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>you find her or else.

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 4>And he looks here and he's like, it's your fucking ass.

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be it'd sell next look fucking DEDERM.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I am not.

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>In any way like this is what you get for

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>being a fascist, But this episode I was like, man,

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys are fucked, Like this is the this is

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>how it is. You're never gonna rise up the ranks,

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>You're never gonna get credit for anything you do. You're

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna commit horrific acts and have to live with them

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>and then probably get either killed or put in a

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking prison cell by the very people you are trying

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to impress.

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a lesson here, guys.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe obviously nothing reliable to this in real life, but

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe there's a lesson about this.

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Critic is very, very disappointed with ISB, which is dans

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>now for part Now, party Gas is feeling heat and

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>he comes up with a story about how they can

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 2>put Claya's face out there. He's like, she's got some

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 2>crazy disease and anybody who comes into contact her with

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>her will get it and die.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 4>Perfect go with that.

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, pot of Gas, you are spin master General.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>That was incredible too, because uh, he can't just.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Didn't know what to do.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And in that moment, Krenik's looking for an answer and

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>pas like, I'm an old hand. She's got an infetious

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>disease and she's gonna kill anyone.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Everyone will be calling in like get away from me.

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 3>She's sick. She's sick, and Cretic's like, yeah, this is

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 3>my guy, my white guy, this is the guy.

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Kreanig then leans on party Gas and it's basically like

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you better fucking find her. Okay, listen, here's how the

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>hierarchy works. Okay, the Emperor electrocutes Darth Vader, Darth Vader

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>strangles me. I shit on, you go fucking find her.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 2>On Yavin, their discuss seeing the message, which they can't read.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 2>They don't know what it is, but they know where

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>it's from.

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Also, I just have to say, like this sequence with

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>KS two O and Melchie and and Or, and you

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>just see them kind of hanging out, and you see

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>this friendship that they've managed to create in Yavin while

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>they've been hiding.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 4>From It was an important scene.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I love it so much.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I love the Melchie stuff, I love getting a little

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>bit more insight into who he is before Oguan, and

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I just think like Kwo s is already one of

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>my favorite droids, but the level of personality and time

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>we get to spend with him here is so fantastic.

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And the absolute horror of what a K two so

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>so droid can do that we see here in a

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>way that was not portrayed in and Or as obviously horrific,

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and we get to cheer him on. I just I

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>truly thought that was like one of the most important

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and best scenes, because again it's about how it's kind

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>of like the whole of Avatar The Last Airbender. The

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>question is how do you find happiness in a world

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>where war has to and everything a paw, And in

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that moment we get to see them experiencing that happiness,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 1>ripping joking like it's it. I thought it was very moving.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 2>So the message comes through again while they're arguing, and

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Cassiine immediately understands what it is. So he's like, I

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>need a ship, we need an off the bookship, and

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to leave and we can't tell anybody. And

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>of course Cassine is already on thin ice with Draven

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and with the rebel leadership about taking ships and leaving

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>and not telling any where he's going. But he's done

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it again and they're fucking pissed again. Heret goes to

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 2>visit Dedra in her little cell and he says, Luthen

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 2>is dead, Clay is on the run.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 4>And this is a.

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Very interesting scene because Parrot, again incompetent, not as smart

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 2>as Dedra, doesn't know what he's doing, but he's much

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>more ruthless.

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 4>He's the reason.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Basically, he's one of the reasons that she's in this cell,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 2>and he starts out by bullying her, but then he's

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 2>basically comes out with.

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 4>But like like what do I do? Help me? How

0:34:59.440 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 4>do I find?

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do? And he asks about

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>the Crenic project, like what is it that chief stole

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 2>because like they seem.

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Really and why is it so important?

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Dedah now paranoid is like is this a test that

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I would that I would talk about it. I don't

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 2>know what's going like he doesn't understand what dangerous ground

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 2>he's treading on, and Dejah basically says, you know, look

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 2>for old discontinued radio frequencies. That's probably how they're communicating.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Will tells Draven on Yavin what's going on, like, we've

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 2>got this message and we need to get the and

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>it's maybe it's Luthen and we need to go back there.

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 4>Draven is fucking pissed.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>He's like and I and I get it, because what

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>if the Empire figures out there on Yavin. They're not

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>ready for that kind of fight and that could be disastrous.

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, also as well, it's a very interesting situation because

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the let's say, like the respectable side of the rebellion

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 1>is now running things, but you still have these leftovers

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of these people who were raised under Luther, and Will,

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>who is mentored by Sore, who's clearly still addicted to

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to ridiom, and and like, I think it's very interesting

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to see the way already they're playing into the notion.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And then we saw this last episode with pretended chunk

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>of episodes when they.

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Pretended gold Squadron that saved her not not I think it's.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting to be in a position where we're already

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing the and they're not wrong. Like I get it, Momothma,

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>bail Or Ghana, like I understand what they're talking about,

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and Yavin, but also like Will Cassie, and they have

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>lost everything, they have committed everything to this fight, and

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they are already kind of being like sign out of

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the story and sidelined, And I think that's really heartbreaking.

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you. I think that there is To me, there's.

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like the natural progression of the rebellion

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 2>as it becomes more of a legitimate fighting for us, right,

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that this is some of this is natural.

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I also think clearly from an organizational standpoint, why is

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>it's like the rebellion has a political leadership, and the

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 2>political leadership is is in charge of the military leadership,

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>which is the ships, the infantry, et cetera. But there

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>seems to be like no connection with the intelligence, like

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 2>there's no rebellion intelligence chief. It's still just these pockets.

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think organizationally, this doesn't make like you guys

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>need to figure out like put Casting in charge of

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the spies or something. Put Clayer or Vell or somebody

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>in charge of the spies, Like why are you doing

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>it like this?

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it's a very it's a it's a confusing question

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 1>because also, you know, I was thinking about a lot.

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you ever watched this show with

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Kifa Sutherland Designated, where it's like about who would.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Everybody was in the one room and they all got.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Jason. Well please, there are so many planets. I get it,

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>but like, let's split them up a little bit because

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>one uh one little bee and I don't.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 4>Disagree with you. Well, they don't know about that.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>They don't know about the super weapon yet, so I

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>think it makes sense right now, but they don't know

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 2>about the super weapon yet. So unfortunately, the Empire fixed

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>picks up Clay's feed and they figure out where she is.

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 2>They get to fix on her location and they start

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>heading there at the same time that Cassian and Melchie

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>are also heading there. K two, who still has Imperial

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 2>radio frequencies like as part of his like operational abilities,

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>picks up on these communications. He knows the Empire is there, uh,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>closing in on the safe house, so he swings into

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>action and starts, you know, taking out Imperial forces to

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 2>try and get in there. He's getting the drop on

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Imperial as he's It's awesome.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So good. It basically is like a Star Wars horror movie.

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it leans towards that, where it's almost this

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>slasher movie where you're just seeing kay my baby k

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to so absolutely destroying everyone boom, throwing him into a wall, boom,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>throwing him over a bridge, boom. And I love the

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>notion that he was essentially brainwashed and programmed by the

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Empire and what the rebellion did. They didn't fill him

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>with some mysterious programming. They just took that away and

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>then treated him like some propaganda.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Did choose to believe in this case, I don't.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Choose to bellion, so I choose to believe K to

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>is choosing to kill.

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Cassie and gets into the safe house with Melchie and Clay.

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 2>And Clay are just like in a rush. It's like

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:59.479
<v Speaker 2>telling him like all the information, like and heart.

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>She's had to kill She's had to kill Alida. And

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 1>then she shows up and essentially sounds like a racing

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>on the tick because she's just been going over in

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>her head this is the thing we need, this is

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing we need. And I thought that was really

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:15.839
<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking and also really realistic. I love the way they

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>dealt with like who would believe her and who would

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 1>go on a mission based on what she's saying.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:26.320
<v Speaker 2>And so they argue about this, and because Clay doesn't

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>think she's getting off the planet, She's like, you need

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>to leave now and bring this information to the Relion

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>and Cassian's like, no, you need to come with us. Meanwhile,

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the Empire is closing in and they have no idea

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 2>that the Empire is closing in, And we go to

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>episode twelve. Yeah, episode twelve, Cassian continues to try and

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 2>convince Clay to come to Yavin. They need to tell

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>the rebel leadership about the death Star. They they don't

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 2>understand that the empires right outside the door, but the

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 2>is s B doesn't understand that K two is on

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 2>their ass and he's all in them. Like, Party Gas

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.479
<v Speaker 2>is in the control room, like why am I? Why

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 2>can't I contact anybody? Like what's happening? K two gets

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 2>up there and with K two's help, Melchie and Cassian

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>take out the tag team like and it's it's it's

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking nuts with K two like picking up like by

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the nape of the neck and using him as like

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>a body shield.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 4>It's nuts. Party Gas is freaking out.

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>He is like, you know that I I recently bought

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a very fun bootle like shirt featuring one of the

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Creature commandos with GI Robot and it says would you

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>like to kill Nazis with g I Robot? And now

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we need a K two s No. One

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>because this motherfucker is absolutely destroying them. It's almost like

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a monster movie. It's really because also they do this

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>great moment in the opening, which is so tells you

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so much about the rebellion and the people who are

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>truly loyal to it, which is they just send Melchie

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.720
<v Speaker 1>out to like stand in front of them and count

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>how many of them there are, and then he quickly

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>runs away, you know, but it's so dangerous and reckless,

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 1>but you can tell that it's also part of how

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>they do this and why they make it work. And

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that the melchie K too, and and or

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I never really saw this little trio coming, but now

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 1>it's very much. I would die for them energy, Like

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they fucking smashed through this, like army of ISB agents

0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and stormtroopers, like it's crazy.

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>On Yeavin, the rebel leadership draven Man Bail Organa are

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>in communication with Saw, who is on Jedda and it's

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>been there for a little while, and they're trying to

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 2>tell him listen, the Empire is on your ass, like

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>be careful. They've got this destroyer parked over Jetta lay Low,

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 2>stop doing shit, be careful. But Saw is at this

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:18.439
<v Speaker 2>point totally paranoid. His drug addiction is seems like it's

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 2>gone too far, and he sees enemies everywhere, and he

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>thinks maybe even the rebellion people are spying on him

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to set him up. So it's going nowhere, honestly.

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not gonna say that he's wrong, like that

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>is I think even though, SOA is paranoid. You know,

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>we are saw ger eras are you guys know we're

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>sore apologists. But I will say in this moment, while

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>the intensity of his paranoia is very clear to see,

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's definitely his addiction has made it that the

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>horrible things he's had to do.

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Also, I get it because he is that old god

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 5>Luthen but more brutal side of the rebellion, who are

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 5>fucking like jump in like what he said to Will,

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 5>He's like, dive into the rebellion, baby, like we'll go

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 5>back to Lutheran.

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't be a porn. So I think I understand his

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>feel but.

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 4>I understand his fear also.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 2>But I also feel like, you know, everything, uh, everything

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 2>has its has its time, and I think his time

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 2>sadly has at this point it's past. Like he's not

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 2>he's not effective anymore. News of the U Wing hits

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>the rebel leadership, the stolen U Wing that is now

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 2>coming back from correusconting about to land carrying Claya and

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Melchian Cassian. Bail is furious because what if again, what

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>if the Empire followed them here and then we're fucking

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>fucked in an unsupervised mission. We don't even know what

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>this is. We don't know who's on there. Do we

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>shoot it down?

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 4>What do we do?

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Ratus goes to handle the air defenses, and it's very,

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 2>very tense. Draven receives the U wing when it lands,

0:44:56.320 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and he's pissed and he brings Cassian to the leadership

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and calls him to the carpet, and Cassian briefs them

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>on everything he's heard. You know, Jedda Gorman, Galen or

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 2>so Death Star, et cetera. Bail is being an absolute

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking bitch about everything.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.920
<v Speaker 1>They all like that. They're so obsessed at this point

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>with the concept of like doing things properly, but it's like, babe,

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 1>you're not and listen to this man, Like listen.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Right after this, I went and watched Brogue one, and

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it is notable to me that at every turn the

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>political leadership and I listened, they were important because the

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 2>legitimacy that they gave to the rebellion was extremely important.

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:43.399
<v Speaker 2>At the same time, at the same time they were

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 2>they had to be dragged, kicking and screaming into every

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 2>like they didn't want to go to scare It was

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>because Ratus and fucking Gin and a bunch of other

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>yahoos were like, no, we have to go fight that.

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.479
<v Speaker 2>That happened here, you're seeing it again. They're having they're

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 2>having to be dragged into this, and I get it

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:04.879
<v Speaker 2>also because it's natural that they would be much more

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>conservative with Again, it's that conversation of like people with

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>something to lose, they had, this rebellion is just getting started,

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and their fear is like, we can't lose it before

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>we even start. I get it, But they're also like not,

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:26.239
<v Speaker 2>they're not respecting the expertise of people who have been

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in the trenches from day one whatever. Bail, you know,

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 2>wonders if Cassian's judgment is flawed. There's this the whole conversation,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Cassian says, and it's clear they don't respect Luthen's contribution

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 2>at all. They're not really respecting or at least they're

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.759
<v Speaker 2>not being there. They're acting like, who the fuck is Luthen?

0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 2>What's this sounds like? Asian points out that like, I'm

0:46:53.320 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 2>being lectured right now by people who have given a

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.240
<v Speaker 2>fraction of what Luthen has given to this rebellion. Bail

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>thinks that lu And stayed on course not too long,

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 2>which I understand because he doesn't understand the importance of

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 2>this information that Luthen had to stay there to get

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.880
<v Speaker 2>what if he's been turned, which is again like, but

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a good you know, I get.

0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>It, I get it, I get it. But we have

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>the dramatic irony effected.

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.439
<v Speaker 4>There's all these things they can find.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Cassi into quarters, but he requests, He's like, may I

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 2>have permission to go see Claia in the infirmary, and

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.880
<v Speaker 2>mon immediately grants it before Draven or any of the

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 2>other or bail Yes or any of the other fucking

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>cowards has an opportunity to say no. Draven then tells

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Cassian about saw and Jedda and the very troubling zoom

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 2>conversation that they had with him, and they tells him

0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 2>about the Imperial destroyer above Jedda and it's urgent there.

0:47:50.400 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Cassian apologizes to Clea for the fact that the rebel,

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the rebel leadership has received them with like very cold shoulders,

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and he promises, like, whatever happen, and it's like Luthen's

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>sacrifice will be worth it, even if it's just us.

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Then understands that Mathma goes to see Vell cousin Bell

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Luthen is dead, she tells her, and Cassian is grounded,

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but she asks for Bell's advice, like what you know,

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>what do I do here? And they basically come to

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the conclusion that they need to find out if this

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 2>information is correct either way, like we just need to

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it whether it's bait or not, or reel or not.

0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 4>We need to find out.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Cassian then tells Will that Luthan is dead. Well goes

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 2>to I have a hug. Bell goes to talk to

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Cassian to kind of take his temperature, but also to

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 2>see what he has to say. They toast to the

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 2>dead Sinta, the gores Cassian's mom, you know Luthen et cetera.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Bell asks, you know, is the Luthen story real? He's

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and Cassian's like, and by the way, the

0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>rebellion none of this, ye haven't and none of this

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 2>shit happens without him, and he lays out the story again.

0:49:03.920 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 2>Claya wakes up and as we as she's waking up,

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 2>there's this incredible transition where we hear Nemeck from season

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 2>one his incredible manifesto on freedom versus tyranny, and we

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>realize as the transition happens that on course on party

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Gas is listening to this manifesto.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I love this moment because I think that nemeic we

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>are Nemic lovers here. I think the writing around Nemes

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.759
<v Speaker 1>manifesto is so incredible and I love that we see

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>here and we kind of confirm that they released that shit,

0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>like that shit is everywhere. That's Nemes mixtape is the

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>number one mixtape in the galaxy. Like if pot of

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Gas can listen to it, so can everyone else. And

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's amazing because I do think that Neme's

0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>kind of freedom and tyranny talk, it is a it's

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a battle cry, and it will inspec I have people

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to remember that one little action is better than none,

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.919
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I love that speech so much. And Potas,

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh baby, he realizes.

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 2>He knows that he's in it now, he knows that

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 2>his ass is in the shopper.

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 4>It's all gone sideways.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 2>They lost Luthen, The entire cell has managed to get

0:50:21.920 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 2>off of the planet. The ISB tag team that they

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.960
<v Speaker 2>sent in has been taken out piece by piece, and

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 2>now they look like incompetence. Krenik is calling for him

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and party, Gaz asks for a moment to collect his thoughts,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and everybody knows that he's going to kill himself. Like

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 2>everybody understands that he's taking the honorable way out, and

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>basically they're letting him because nobody wants to deal with that.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's the guy who called him is obviously he

0:50:49.680 --> 0:50:50.839
<v Speaker 1>knows what he means.

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know what he's doing.

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a great moment where he stands outside with the

0:50:56.640 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>stormtroopers and you hear the gun go off and the

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>stormtroopers are ready to go in, and he's like, it's

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>very it's okay, yes, it's we are getting there. It's

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see who thinks that they are that important

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:10.759
<v Speaker 1>because also, like part I Gas, he just doesn't want

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>to go to prison, and we treat it the way

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that other people are treated. But he could have survived this,

0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's like, oh, oh, rebellions come in that I'm

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:18.200
<v Speaker 1>going to be the first one up against the wall.

0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me do this myself. Brutal moment, but very in

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>line with and Or and what the tone zone has

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:24.360
<v Speaker 1>been putt in.

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, then on Yavin tells Cassian, you know you should

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>reconnect with Bicks. Maybe that this is and he's like,

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>not yet, when this is all over, I'll do that. Well,

0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 2>then find Claya wandering around in the rain and they commiserate.

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Draven finally releases k Twu and Melschie and then comes

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to see Cassian. He says, we've gotten a flash message

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 2>from Tivik aka the guy Cassian shoots and kills Spoiler

0:51:53.400 --> 0:51:57.280
<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of Rogue one after receiving intel about

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Galen or So and other stuff, and he's got important information.

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>He'll only give it to Cassian. He's the only when

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 2>he trusts. He's on Caffriine for one day only.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 4>You got to go.

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Also, there's that Imperial destroyer of Jetta and saws there,

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of things are bubbling, and we've

0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:14.839
<v Speaker 2>got to be careful because it really feels like war

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 2>is imminent at this point. And they both wonder like

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:20.240
<v Speaker 2>if this is a trap, and if it is a trap,

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they both agree, well that it's so well

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 2>designed that they have to take the risk.

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Man, And what can you do.

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's made, it's made.

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:36.359
<v Speaker 2>It's almost too good, yeah, man, and Draven Cassian then

0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 2>has a dream of his life before all this and

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 2>we see in this moment, and super producer Joel pointed

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 2>it out. He's talking to his sister that we met

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 2>in when there were kids in season one, and it's

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the same girl who sneaks into Luthan's ship to hide.

0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>So shouts to Joel Claia.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Yep, Joelle and Justin, unbeknownst.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 2>To each other, are brother and sister. I wonder if

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Luthan knew.

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.800
<v Speaker 1>That is we are making it a ninety nine percent.

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>We are sure about this, But I think this.

0:53:15.800 --> 0:53:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Is so I thinks. I think.

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think he puts you and two together,

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and he did, That's why he kept them apart.

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think he put two and two together, which

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.720
<v Speaker 2>is why he's working with both of them, but didn't

0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 2>tell them because he knew it might yeah, fuck up.

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 1>And he loves to keep a secret. You know, he

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>loves to keep a secret. Also, you know there is

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 1>also a chance that Claia knows because Lutheran loved to

0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:43.560
<v Speaker 1>tell one person a secret and make them keep it

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:46.400
<v Speaker 1>from everyone else. But I don't think so. But you

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>know what, I will say, I love this. I also

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 1>think it adds a lot of weight to the moment.

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Where Cassian is so desperate to bring Claire, even though

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>in the past he has left people behind, in that moment,

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 1>he will not leave her. There's something about how he

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 1>needs her to come with him, and not just to

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.959
<v Speaker 1>tell the story because he tells the story himself, because

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>she is so messed up. But I think like there

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is a connection there that even if they don't know,

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>they know, you know. And I really love that. And

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>when Joel text did that to me, I was like,

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that shit blew my mind because I was like, oh

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my god. Yeah, they're on the same island, same girl,

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.480
<v Speaker 1>but it's obviously a connection there.

0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>K Two wakes casting up from his dream to tell

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>him that Bail Organa is here to see him, and

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Bail basically says, hey, get back out there.

0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:34.640
<v Speaker 4>You're back in the game.

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 2>Draven has his orders, we have ours, and it's time

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to start really fighting back. We see Melchie training the recruits.

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 2>We see we get these wonderful little kind of vignettes

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 2>of the rebellion growing and getting stronger. We see on

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Coruscant that Paren has already moved on. Now he's in

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 2>full with Manow.

0:54:58.360 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 4>He's fully my god.

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I said, actually because it's pathetic.

0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>What he's a good moment, He literally is just sitting drinking. Mom,

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 1>She's no mom, are you mad? But and he's so depressed.

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>You can see the kind of resignation of what his life,

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the emptiness of his life. His wife is just pure

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 1>surface now, you know, just pure Like can you wanted

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to enjoy the good times while you can? Okay, empty drinking.

0:55:34.360 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Through empty luxury that you're living in. We see Claya recovering.

0:55:39.960 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 2>We see Tetra in prison. Sorry, babe, she.

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Is in the exact same prison so as Angel. So

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you know she's getting getting spicy and she ain't never

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>getting out. Watch good luck, babe, like and she just crying.

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Imagine if you didn't just love fascism, you could also

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you could have just been happy with Cyril. But now

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you in prison forever RPTU because you're gonna die in that,

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>because you're an imperative.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 2>So Cassian heads out to his meeting with Tivik and

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 2>we see him go past the Force Healer. They lock

0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:21.160
<v Speaker 2>eyes and it's clear the Force Healer is again since

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the importance of this person in what's going to happen

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>in the next few months.

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:29.520
<v Speaker 4>In this moment she's seeing the moment she saw on Jetta.

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:35.320
<v Speaker 2>We see Krenick overseeing the growing death star, and then.

0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 4>We look at and we go to Big Wheat for

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:38.799
<v Speaker 4>the finale. The final moments on.

0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Big Wheat, b two has friends now, which is wonderful.

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 2>B has like a robot little joy friend no crew,

0:56:47.239 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and Bix is with him, which is going to make

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>him feel good. And Bix is holding her child with

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Cassian as she walks through Big Wheat.

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And Wow, what an episode. I love how somehow and

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of this is very reflected in Rogue one as well,

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.360
<v Speaker 1>but like, how do you make an ending that is

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:11.080
<v Speaker 1>hopeful out of such a bleak, heartbreaking show? But you

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>get that moment with you know, you see Will and

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Drina eating like those even there, they get their quiet

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 1>moments together. They find love, they find connection, and Bix

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>looks healthy, safe and has a chubby little baby with her,

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>So we know that the rebellion will continue, The rebellion

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>will keep on. Something me and Joel are discussing too

0:57:31.120 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that I think is so interesting is who they leave

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>us with, Because Joel made a great point where it's

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like it's Clayer, it's Bis, it's more Mothma. Like the

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 1>future of the Rebellion and this franchise, if they decide

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>to carry on from here, is in the hands of women.

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>There are multiple different women that could lead whatever the

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>next series is going to be, you know. And I

0:57:52.840 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 1>feel so much for people who haven't seen Rogue One

0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:59.160
<v Speaker 1>who watch this because the ending is so hopeful. You

0:57:59.200 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>see and or fling off, You're like, yeah, I can't

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>wait for this, and then you put on Rogue One,

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like me and Jason both immediately did one. I mean

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>we were already Rogue One fans, but after this show,

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it is like.

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 4>So much richer now.

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That opening of Cassie and killing that guy. I always

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 1>loved it because I did feel like, yeah, there's got

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to be that in The Rebellion, but now like the

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>weight of it and the reason he goes in so brutal,

0:58:27.200 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 1>being that Luthan died for this and this is the

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>chance they have oof Man, that opening just absolutely changes everything.

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, and obviously I love to see more sore

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>legendary cast I you know. Okay, So Jason, let me

0:58:40.920 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>ask you a question. This is a fun question because

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the show is essentially like pretty much perfect. If there

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was one character from Rogue One that you would have

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 1>loved to see in the finale make an appearance to it.

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 4>It be gosh, that's good. Who didn't Yeah?

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Who we didn't get to see.

0:58:57.240 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I I've always because he's so great in the comics,

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I've always thought, and but he's in it.

0:59:03.800 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 4>Ratus is in both Rogue One.

0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Admiral Rowy, Yeah, hero of the Battle of Scaif at

0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 2>least that designed the air attack and uh and the

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 2>crucial improvised move of using the Hammerhead corvette to take

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 2>out the destroyers that then opened up the gate Mahamahad Corbett.

0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 3>And he's in.

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 4>I think he's in. He's in parts of you.

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Like minutes a couple of minutes with him, but you

0:59:34.240 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 1>would like to.

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 2>But I always think that he's a real one, you know,

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>he's like, he's one of the real ones.

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 4>And one of the things.

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>He never questioned and l he didn't say, like this

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:44.720
<v Speaker 1>plan sounds a fake. He was like, I'm right.

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 2>One of the things you notice that doesn't get remarked

0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:53.840
<v Speaker 2>upon that much is uh. You know, this is a

0:59:53.920 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>very human centric rebellion and obviously a human supremacist empire, right,

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 2>there are no there are no alien races in the Empire.

1:00:03.800 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 4>It's US humans.

1:00:05.400 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 2>And then you know the rebellion, You've got Ratus, You've

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:11.960
<v Speaker 2>got a few others, but it is you know, primarily

1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the humans who are running things. And you contrast that

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:19.200
<v Speaker 2>with Saw and the first band of outlaws who wanted

1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 2>to be out there doing it, and it's the most

1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 2>diverse group of creatures.

1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Like you've ever seen. And I think that because of that, I've.

1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Always liked learning more about about the non humans in

1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:34.760
<v Speaker 2>the rebellion.

1:00:34.920 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 4>Yea, what is that?

1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 4>What? What were there?

1:00:38.880 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 2>What were the things that they did that helped, you know,

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 2>move the rebellion towards victory written out of history, written

1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 2>out of history, just as we're about to see all

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:49.560
<v Speaker 2>of these, you know. I think that's one of the

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:52.560
<v Speaker 2>lessons of Rogue one is like, it's going to be

1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like the here man Mathma deserved hero of the Rebellion,

1:00:57.040 --> 1:01:01.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's gonna be Bale Organa and Luca who shots

1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the bail Organo, who did harbor Lea. That was very important,

1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 2>but in terms of like moving the pieces around, not

1:01:06.840 --> 1:01:10.480
<v Speaker 2>a big not a big guy Okay, sorry, Draven. He

1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 2>was important a little bit kind of you know, kind

1:01:14.400 --> 1:01:17.120
<v Speaker 2>of you know, and then John de Donna, which I

1:01:17.240 --> 1:01:18.400
<v Speaker 2>still don't know what he did.

1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:23.680
<v Speaker 1>You so much Lucas, send an email, tell us.

1:01:23.560 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Explain, explain somebody, somebody tell us what Didonna did, because

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:29.840
<v Speaker 2>it didn't seem it seemed like he just came in.

1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:33.920
<v Speaker 2>And then by episode four is like leaning over the

1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, the displays and standing in front of the

1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:39.480
<v Speaker 2>screens and saying stuff that it's like, okay, but what

1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.959
<v Speaker 2>we just watched his I'm not sure what you guys

1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like he's writing like the missives, He's like John Dennna

1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:50.040
<v Speaker 2>was really powerful, like he was sill a great job.

1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Definitely let him look over No. I love that answer.

1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. The creature work has always been

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:57.520
<v Speaker 1>such a key part of Star Wars, and it's very

1:01:57.520 --> 1:02:02.000
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see the kind of alien dynamics and the

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 1>thing is as well. I think it's fun to imagine

1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:06.800
<v Speaker 1>them and want to see more of them in a

1:02:06.800 --> 1:02:09.680
<v Speaker 1>space like this where Tony Gilroy is so thoughtful. It's

1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not that there's a lot of suspicious alien activity and

1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:17.120
<v Speaker 1>analogy in George Lucas's Star Wars. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great answer for me, I'm not gonna surprise anyone here.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have you know what, I don't need them

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<v Speaker 1>to be in it, like fully in it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think I unders like the story they have in roguee

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<v Speaker 1>is so amazing, But I would have liked to see

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<v Speaker 1>a little trut and bas just chillin on Jedi. You

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<v Speaker 1>know Donnie Yen in Star Wars as like a blind

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<v Speaker 1>Master who isn't a Force user but is connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the Force. Like that relationship between the two of them

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<v Speaker 1>was so powerful to me. I literally have like so

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<v Speaker 1>many Rogue one spinoff novels because they wrote a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about chur and Bays And yeah, I love the Jedda crew.

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<v Speaker 1>I love saw, I love a kind of ragtag found family,

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<v Speaker 1>So that definitely would have been my one like wish

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<v Speaker 1>fulfillment thing. But also I don't need to be fan

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<v Speaker 1>serviced because I'm being sad and this is fantastic TV.

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<v Speaker 2>The next few episodes of X Ray Vision. On Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>we're bringing back the Jedi Council for another roundtable, the

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<v Speaker 2>final three episodes of and Or season two, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, we're celebrating the fortieth anniversary of the Empire

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<v Speaker 2>Strikes Back and on Tuesday, we returned with the last

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<v Speaker 2>of US episode six plus stick Around and did the

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<v Speaker 2>weeks that follow as we prep for Mission Impossible, the

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<v Speaker 2>Final Reckoning.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Summer of I p mcgeddon Baby, We're covering the Mole.

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<v Speaker 1>We're covering a moll like Pokemon Go.

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<v Speaker 2>To catch.

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<v Speaker 4>X Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Vision is hosted by Jason Sepsion and Rosie Night and

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<v Speaker 2>is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producers are Joe Alminique and Aaron Kleman.

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<v Speaker 4>Our supervising producer is Abuza par.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producers are Common Laurent Dean Jonathan and Bai wag.

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<v Speaker 2>Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 2>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 1>Special thanks to Saul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Go and

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<v Speaker 1>Heidi Our discored moderator

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