WEBVTT - Does particle spin affect life on Earth?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I realized I've never asked you this. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>left or right handed? Usually draw with my right hand,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure you've tried to draw with your other hand.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that like? It's it's pretty tricky. Yeah, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>used to doing things with one hand, it's hard to switch. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about driving? Have you ever driven on the left

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road, you mean, on purpose or against

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<v Speaker 1>the law or following the laws of Well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>there are some places in the world where they drive

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. I have driven in Australia and England. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty tricky, but after a while you get used

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<v Speaker 1>to it. What would you say is better your left

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<v Speaker 1>side of the road driving or your left handed drawing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've fortunately have not had an accident on either side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road, so the data says that I am

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<v Speaker 1>equally good. Well, I'm glad you're even handed. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a left handed compliment, Daniel, I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi am poor handed cartoonists and the creator of PhD comics. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist and a professor. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see Irvine and I have tried to do math

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<v Speaker 1>left handed. I mean you write out math with your

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<v Speaker 1>left hand. Is that what you mean? Yeah? I try

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<v Speaker 1>to write out math with my left hand or sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>upside down. Sometimes when I'm teaching math to my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to write it so that they can see it,

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<v Speaker 1>which requires a little bit of awkward gymnastics. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you use your left hand and maybe it's it's it's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>If I use my left hand and my handwriting looks

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<v Speaker 1>as sloppy as theirs. I know people who would aspire

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<v Speaker 1>to be ambidexterous, so they purposely used the mouths even

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<v Speaker 1>though they're right handed. They use their mouse but their

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<v Speaker 1>left hand so that they're you know, are able to

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<v Speaker 1>do both. How would you give my right arm to

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<v Speaker 1>be ambidextrous. Well, if you give your right arm, then

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be ambidexterous. Sounds like you're caught in a paradox.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to a podcast Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of I Heart Radio, in which we try

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<v Speaker 1>to tickle the right side of your brain and the

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<v Speaker 1>left side of your brain. We want to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>entire universe, the top half, the bottom half, the left side,

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<v Speaker 1>the right side, and everything in between even the backside,

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<v Speaker 1>the backside, the front side, the dark side, and the

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<v Speaker 1>light side. Every side of the universe deserves to be understood,

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<v Speaker 1>and we think it's possible. And on this podcast we

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<v Speaker 1>ask those big questions about the nature of reality, the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of life, why we are all here, what it

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<v Speaker 1>all means, how long we will be here, and whether

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<v Speaker 1>we're alone, and we try to explain all of them

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<v Speaker 1>to you. And today I want to especially explain things

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<v Speaker 1>to Walter Bloom, a long time listener of the pod

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<v Speaker 1>from Switzerland, whose girlfriend Victoria wants to wish him a

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<v Speaker 1>happy thirty eighth birthday. Happy birthday, Walter, Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a big universe to explain. It is a wide universe,

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<v Speaker 1>full of many sides to it, many different ways that

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at things, and also many different in

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<v Speaker 1>ways that things can be put together. There are almost

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<v Speaker 1>an infinite way for a matter to arrange itself. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the joys of physics is figuring out how

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<v Speaker 1>the universe works, because then we get to ask why.

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<v Speaker 1>When we discover that we are put together out of

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<v Speaker 1>time of little particles, we get to wonder, like, why

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<v Speaker 1>is the universe arranged out of these time little particles.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does it have these patterns? What does that really mean?

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<v Speaker 1>The joy physics is really that it's setting us up

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<v Speaker 1>to ask philosophy questions. Oh, is that the main goal

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<v Speaker 1>of physics just to be a primer, like a trailer

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<v Speaker 1>to philosophy, just the opening act for philosophy. Example, what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying businesses are just there to warm up the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, I think the almost science really is

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<v Speaker 1>motivated by philosophy questions. You know, at the heart of

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<v Speaker 1>almost every science question we ask, there is a why question,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in the end fundamentally philosophical. Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 1>ask these questions not just because it's interesting and fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>and we understand more about the universe. But sometimes these

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<v Speaker 1>questions and these issues have a big impact on our daily,

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<v Speaker 1>everyday lives, even maybe on life itself. Yeah, we notice

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<v Speaker 1>these patterns in the universe. The universe seems to organize

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<v Speaker 1>itself in this way and not some other way. We

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<v Speaker 1>noticed sometimes there are symmetries in the universe, like you

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<v Speaker 1>could rotate everything and the laws of physics wouldn't change.

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<v Speaker 1>But also sometimes we notice that there are not symmetries

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe, that the universe has a strong opinion

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<v Speaker 1>about how things should be done, and the opposite way

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<v Speaker 1>just does not happen. Time flows forwards and not backwards,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are the things that inspire our philosophical musings

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder what it would be like for universe or

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<v Speaker 1>time flowed backwards, or what it would be like for

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<v Speaker 1>universe in the mirror of our universe. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>our universe likes to put things together in a particular way,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can trace sometimes that to the very properties

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<v Speaker 1>of the smallest particles in the universe, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>everything is made out of, and some of these properties

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<v Speaker 1>can have a pretty big impact on what gets formed

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe and even whether we would be here

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<v Speaker 1>or not. It does seem sometimes like at the smallest

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<v Speaker 1>level of the universe, US follows really different rules, really

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<v Speaker 1>strange quantum rules that don't really affect our lives, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how a particle moves through space is totally different from

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<v Speaker 1>how a baseball flies through space. But as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes there is a connection. Sometimes we can even find

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<v Speaker 1>a portal from the timeliest particle to our everyday lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be on the podcast, we will be tackling

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<v Speaker 1>the question does particle spin affect life on Earth? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we trying to put a positive spin here on life

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth? I'm trying to put a positive spin on particles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, particles are relevant. Give me money, is

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. Well, you know that's the philosophy that's

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<v Speaker 1>underlying all of it. And yes, we're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>our science relevant. Do you share any of your funding

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<v Speaker 1>with philosophers? Philosophers really need funding? I mean, how much

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<v Speaker 1>does paper and pencil cost? Anyway? Isn't that aren't dose

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<v Speaker 1>the tools of your research as well? Um? Ten billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar particle colliders. You can build those out of pencil

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<v Speaker 1>and paper. You could, You just haven't tried the paper

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<v Speaker 1>mache particle collider. Put that on the table next time

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<v Speaker 1>we're discussing the future of the field. Can you demonstrate

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<v Speaker 1>mathematically that you cannot build a particle collider with paper mache.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's show the spitball collider. Yeah, let's see what we

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<v Speaker 1>can learn my colliding spitballs at nearly the speed of light. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible, right, it is possible. I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>some pencil and paper calculations to see what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>experiments we could do and what we might learn about

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<v Speaker 1>the universe from a paper machee collider. Yeah, i'll fund

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<v Speaker 1>out here. Here's five bucks. But this is an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>We're trying to link life on Earth to something as

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<v Speaker 1>small and maybe and seemingly insignificant as the spin fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>particle of nature. That's a pretty big leap. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big leap, And you might think it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit desperate, like is Daniel just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be irrelevant to life? But remember that I'm actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>this research mostly because I think it's irrelevant honestly, because

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't affect everyday life on Earth, which means you

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<v Speaker 1>can't use it to build weapons. Wait, did you just

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<v Speaker 1>admit your research is irrelevant to all life on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's irrelevant in the sense that it doesn't have immediate

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<v Speaker 1>practical applications the way that you admit your research has

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<v Speaker 1>no immediate practical applications. Oh, absolutely, yes, learning about particles

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<v Speaker 1>has no immediate practical applications. I can't tell you tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to improve technology or even next year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basic research in the sense that we might discover

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<v Speaker 1>something crazy and new about the universe. Will down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure will benefit society, but in terms of life

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<v Speaker 1>immediate impact and you know tomorrow's weapons systems, No, we

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<v Speaker 1>have no relevance. All right, Well, I guess possible deniabilities

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<v Speaker 1>is important for some people. But this is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>question to wonder if maybe the spin of particles could

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<v Speaker 1>have affected how life on Earth evolved, or even if

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<v Speaker 1>life itself evolved at all on this planet. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fascinating hypothesis with a little bit of evidence to

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<v Speaker 1>back it up. Well, as usually, we were wondering how

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<v Speaker 1>many people have thought about this question. I had thought

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe the properties of particles having an impact on

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<v Speaker 1>life on Earth, so it's usual Daniel went out there

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<v Speaker 1>to ask people do you think particle spin can affect

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<v Speaker 1>life on Earth? So thank you very much to everybody

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<v Speaker 1>who participates in this segment of the podcast. We really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate hearing your thoughts and I think everybody out there

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<v Speaker 1>enjoys it as well. If you'd like to share your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the topic of the day for future episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't be shy right to us. Two questions at

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<v Speaker 1>I betterly know what particle spin is, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>surely say that it does not affect life on other

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<v Speaker 1>planets from the Solar System. Well, everything is spinning. Particles

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<v Speaker 1>are spinning, the earthy spinning, the galaxy and spinning. Realms

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<v Speaker 1>are spinning. Everything is spinning. So yeah, the life is spinning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say yes, because it affects the way

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<v Speaker 1>matter is made up. But I really don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>would happen if particles spin were to be reversed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know for you would even recognize the effects of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be interpreted maybe a couple of ways outside

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<v Speaker 1>of like the necessity it's spen make physics work, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say probably not very much impact life. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think like DNA is interacting with particles spin.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Some people said yes, some people said no.

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<v Speaker 1>There are strong opinions here. There are positive and negative spins.

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<v Speaker 1>On one hand, it does seem hard to imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>the behaviors of tiny little particles could affect something like

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<v Speaker 1>life on Earth. On the other hand, if you believe reductionism,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe that everything in the universe comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of how tiny little bits are dancing around and tooing

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<v Speaker 1>and frowing that in principle, everything about life comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to how particles work. Well, yeah, I mean I guess

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<v Speaker 1>if particles, for example, didn't feel the electromagnetic force, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole universe would be different. Yeah, I'm sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>trying to imagine what a universe would be like without electromagnetism.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would be a dark universe for sure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there would be no light at all in that universe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I guess even m if the particles had a

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<v Speaker 1>different mass, it would also change the ole universe, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like planets would form differently, galaxies would form differently. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe life can or could have would have formed

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<v Speaker 1>here on Earth. And yeah, it's a deep mystery why

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<v Speaker 1>the parameters of the universe seem to be set up

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<v Speaker 1>to allow life. Although you know, that's just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like life that we can imagine. It's possible that if

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<v Speaker 1>you tweaked all those parameters, you might have completely different chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>But that might allow for different kinds of biology, different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of life, maybe even different kinds of intelligence. So

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<v Speaker 1>while the universe does sort of seem fine tuned for us,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be that other fine tunings are good for

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<v Speaker 1>other kinds of beings. All right, Well, the question at

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<v Speaker 1>hand is does particle spin affect life on Earth? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess particle spin is something that is the

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<v Speaker 1>property of particles. Maybe we can get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>into that first. Particle spin is a really fun and

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<v Speaker 1>super weird property of particles, and it's especially fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>the universe seems to have a preference for one kind

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<v Speaker 1>of spin over another kind of spin. Fundamentally, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what particle spin is. I mean, you might

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that it's like a little ball and it's spinning.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that particles are not little balls, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really have surfaces, so we don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they are physically spinning. But they do have a property

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<v Speaker 1>which is very similar to the kind of things we

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<v Speaker 1>call spin, for like the Earth is spinning and the

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<v Speaker 1>galaxy is spinning. Particles have properties which have similar mathematical

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<v Speaker 1>behaviors to spin of like big objects, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>call it spin even though it's not like technically physically spinning, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because quantum particles are not like little balls, as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like little dots basically, and so they have this

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<v Speaker 1>property called spin. And if it's not related to it

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<v Speaker 1>actually spinning, why did you call it spin? Or not

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<v Speaker 1>you specifically, but you know the physics physicism birth did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did they call it spin? They call it spin

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<v Speaker 1>because even if it isn't actually physically spinning, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a form of angular momentum. Right, things in the universe

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<v Speaker 1>can spin, and they can have momentum in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that things can have normal momentum. Right, momentum is

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<v Speaker 1>just like if you push an object, it keeps going,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you don't push it, it doesn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing holds true for spin. If you spin something,

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<v Speaker 1>it will keep spinning, like out in space where there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't any air to slow it down. Or if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't push an object, it won't spin. Right, It's something

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<v Speaker 1>floating in space won't spin unless you push it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>angular momentum, and that's conserved in the universe. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>if you push something to make it spin, it'll just

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<v Speaker 1>keep spinning out there in space until something stops it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can transfer that angular momentum to something else, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it can bump into something else and make that spin.

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<v Speaker 1>We call particles spin spin because it's a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>angular momentum. You can take anglar momentum and convert it

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<v Speaker 1>into particle spin and back. So when the universe does

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<v Speaker 1>its accounting to make sure that angular momentum is conserved,

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<v Speaker 1>particle spin is part of its balance book, you're allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to move some angle momentum into that category. So it

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<v Speaker 1>really is a kind of angular momentum, even if it's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird quantum kind. But you said that, like regular

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<v Speaker 1>objects in space and have zero angular momentum or a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit or a lot of angular momentum, can particles

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<v Speaker 1>have zero or a lot of angular momentum? And also

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<v Speaker 1>why not just call it angular momentum? Yes, particles can

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<v Speaker 1>have different amounts of spin. Of Photons, for example, can

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<v Speaker 1>have spin up or down or zero. Electrons can only

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<v Speaker 1>have spin one half or negative one half. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>have zero spin. They're different kind of particles. So matter

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<v Speaker 1>particles are all either spin up or spin down by

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<v Speaker 1>one half, whereas forest particles those can be up or

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<v Speaker 1>down or zero. Can the same particle have zero and

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<v Speaker 1>then I give it a spin and then it starts

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<v Speaker 1>spinning or is it just an inherent property of that

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<v Speaker 1>particle that's a really interesting philosophy question. Right, Essentially, you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying a photon moving through the universe with zero spin,

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<v Speaker 1>if you give it spin, is it's still the same photon. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to give it spin, you have to impart angular momentum

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<v Speaker 1>on it, which means an interaction, and so philosophically it

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<v Speaker 1>is changed. Right, It's like interacts with some particle, and

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<v Speaker 1>you think of that as like being absorbed and re emitted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think philosophically you can think of it it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a new particle, or it's at least a new

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<v Speaker 1>quantum state. But yes, photons can have zero spin, or

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<v Speaker 1>they can have spin one, or they're gonna have spin

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<v Speaker 1>minus one m. And the spin it's quantized as well,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have a photon with like three point five spin, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't, And you can't have photons with like half

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<v Speaker 1>a spin or point seven to nine spin. It's absolutely quantized.

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<v Speaker 1>So photons have three possible states plus one, zero or

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<v Speaker 1>minus one, and electrons have two states plus a half

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<v Speaker 1>or minus a half. And that's true for all fer meon's.

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<v Speaker 1>All fermons are either plus a half or minus a half.

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<v Speaker 1>They have half integer spins. That's why we call them fermons.

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<v Speaker 1>They all observe the Firmi exclusion principle, which means they

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<v Speaker 1>can't be in the same quantum state as each other. Bosons,

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<v Speaker 1>which have integer spin, they can hang out in the

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<v Speaker 1>same state, So you can have like a million photons

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<v Speaker 1>all in the same state. Now, you said earlier that

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<v Speaker 1>spin is up or down, right, that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility ane's of it. But in a in space there

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<v Speaker 1>is no up and there's no down. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>it mean for a spin to be up or down

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<v Speaker 1>for a particle. Well, in the same way that you

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<v Speaker 1>can pick any access to calculate ingle momentum, you can

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<v Speaker 1>pick any access to project the spin. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>a particle, you pick an access, you say, here's my axis.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know if it's spin is up or

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<v Speaker 1>down along this axis, and you can pick any access

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<v Speaker 1>you like and call it up or down. Typically, what

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<v Speaker 1>we do is we choose the axis of the particle's motion,

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<v Speaker 1>and we ask is the particle spin in the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of its motion or in the opposite direction of its motion?

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't. Then then the problem the motion and not

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<v Speaker 1>the spin. Like if I throw a baseball face up

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<v Speaker 1>or if I toss a frisbee face up or face down,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that it's a whole different frisbee. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same frisbee. I just threw it upside down. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the case of particles, you can measure their spin

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<v Speaker 1>along any direction, or you can measure it along their motion,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can measure it perpendicular to their motion or

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<v Speaker 1>in any direction, and you'll always get either plus a

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<v Speaker 1>half or minus a half or particles. Okay, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just some sort of like an arbitrary label. You're saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>particles have this thing called spin, and we're gonna there's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of two kinds of the spin. There's the upspin

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<v Speaker 1>and there's down spin exactly. And the universe seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have a preference for particles who spin is pointed away

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<v Speaker 1>from the direction of their emotion, like an electron is

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<v Speaker 1>flying through space in the positive ex direction. The universe

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have a preference for those particles to spin

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite direction of their motion, for their spin to

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<v Speaker 1>be sort of like back along the negative X axis.

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<v Speaker 1>If their motion is in the positive X axis, we

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<v Speaker 1>call those particles left handed. If their spin is the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite direction of their motion. I guess it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a clock. Like a clock can move through space

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<v Speaker 1>where it's either the face of the clock is facing

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<v Speaker 1>where it's going, or the face of the clock is

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<v Speaker 1>facing away from where it's going, or facing back. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you're saying that particles tend to be the kind

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<v Speaker 1>where the clock face is facing back. Those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>particles where the clock is facing backwards with a spin

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<v Speaker 1>is the opposite direction of motion. We call them left

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<v Speaker 1>handed particles. In our universe, we have left and right

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<v Speaker 1>handed versions of most particles, but one of the forces,

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<v Speaker 1>the weak nuclear force, which is responsible for like beta decay,

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<v Speaker 1>it will only talk to left handed particles. It does

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<v Speaker 1>not interact at all with right handed particles. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>when we mean when we say the universe seems to

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<v Speaker 1>have a preference for left handed particles. The other forces, electromagnetism,

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<v Speaker 1>the strong force, they don't care. They're happy to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to right or left handed particles, but the weak force

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<v Speaker 1>only talks to left handed particles. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>the universe um is not ambidexterous, like the universe seems

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<v Speaker 1>to prefer or at least favor, left handed particles. Over

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<v Speaker 1>right handed particles. Yeah, and it's a slight preference, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because remember, the weak force is a feeble force. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not a powerful force. Does not control the structure

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<v Speaker 1>of our galaxies, it does not control the structure of

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<v Speaker 1>your body. It does not control lightning. Right, It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a very powerful force. And so it's a subtle effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was actually overlooked for years and years and years.

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<v Speaker 1>Even well after the weak force was discovered, people hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>really checked to see if it was symmetric, if it

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<v Speaker 1>talked to both kinds of particles. There was this moment

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of last century when people realized, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever actually checked this to see if the weak

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<v Speaker 1>force was symmetric. And every thought, of course, it's symmetric.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything in the universe is symmetric, strong forces, symmetric, electromagnetism

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<v Speaker 1>is symmetric. It would be bonkers if the weak force

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<v Speaker 1>was not symmetric. But nobody had checked, and so very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly a famous scientist at Columbia skipped or Christmas vacation

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<v Speaker 1>to do this experiment and discover the shocking result that

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<v Speaker 1>the weak force is not just a little bit anti symmetric,

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<v Speaker 1>it's completely antisymmetric. It only talks to left handed particles.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a huge shock wave that went through the

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<v Speaker 1>physics community about fifty years ago. Yeah, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole episode about this experiment that demonstrated the

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<v Speaker 1>universe has a little bit of a left handed preference,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this preference has pretty big imp cations and

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<v Speaker 1>how the universe works and maybe even how life on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth developed. So let's get into right and left handedness

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe and life on Earth. But first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. All right, we're asking the question

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<v Speaker 1>does particle spin affect life on Earth? And so we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about what spin is. It's a property of particles.

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<v Speaker 1>Particles can spin up or down. They can be left

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<v Speaker 1>handed or right handed. And this handedness is something we

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<v Speaker 1>see all throughout, not just the universe, but nature itself. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in Chemis City they talk about hand in

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<v Speaker 1>this as well of molecules. Yeah, you can apply this

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<v Speaker 1>principle in general to anything. You can ask if something

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<v Speaker 1>is left handed or right handed, and basically you're asking

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<v Speaker 1>would it look the same in the mirror? Right, if

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<v Speaker 1>you flip something in the mirror, would you get something

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<v Speaker 1>the same? And You can literally do this experiment in

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<v Speaker 1>front of yourself with your hands. Like, take your left hand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the same as your right hand right. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a different orientation of the fingers relative to the thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>If you put your left hand in the mirror, then

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like your right hand. Right. The mirror flips

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<v Speaker 1>your left hand to a right handed sort of shape.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you just take your right hand, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>like turn around or twist it in any way to

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<v Speaker 1>make it look exactly like your left hand. They're different, right.

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<v Speaker 1>We call that chirality, the one is left handed and

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<v Speaker 1>one is right handed, that they're not the same, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess if you're doing the mirror experiment, you would

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<v Speaker 1>see that maybe some parts in your body are symmetric

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<v Speaker 1>and are are not handed right. Like if you take,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, your eyeball, if you put it in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the mirror, you can't tell which eyeball it is,

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<v Speaker 1>where your right one or your left one right, the

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<v Speaker 1>one eyeball looks the same in the mirror as in

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<v Speaker 1>as it does in you. Or for example, I think

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<v Speaker 1>your your nose right, Your nose is also a symmetric

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<v Speaker 1>You can't sort of tell which one is the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>one which is the real nose. But like your right hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell which one is, assuming a spherical eyeball.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's true, and my nose actually isn't symmetric.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell the difference in the mirror because it

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<v Speaker 1>leans one way instead of the other. That can be fixed. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we are in Orange County. I mean basically, everybody's getting

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<v Speaker 1>some work done these days. In principle and idealized human nose,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, is symmetric, and yeah, hands are not symmetric. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the real life version of your left hand looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a right hand in the mirror. Right, And the same

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<v Speaker 1>can be said about molecules, right, Like, you can arrange

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<v Speaker 1>a molecule in a way that is symmetric, where it

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<v Speaker 1>looks the same in the mirror, or you can arrange

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<v Speaker 1>a molecule in a way that does not look the

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<v Speaker 1>same in the mirror. An example of a symmetric molecule

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<v Speaker 1>is like water. Right, water is H two. Oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>have two hydrogens with an oxygen in the middle. If

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<v Speaker 1>you flip it, like if you make the left side

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<v Speaker 1>the right side and vice versa, it looks the same right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's exactly the same in the mirror, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>build much more complicated molecules, and chemistry of life specifically

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<v Speaker 1>is filled with complex molecules built off of these carbon chains,

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<v Speaker 1>and those do have a chirality. They do not look

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<v Speaker 1>the same in the mirror. There are left handed versions

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<v Speaker 1>and right handed versions basically every kind of molecule. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you just say the chemical formula c H four

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<v Speaker 1>for example, that tells you what's in it. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you which orientation is it is. It's the left

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<v Speaker 1>handed or the right handed version of that object. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like c H four you can take one carbon and

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<v Speaker 1>four hydrogen and put them in together in one way

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<v Speaker 1>or in a way that looks like it's mirror image.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what do you mean? Right? Actually, c H four

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<v Speaker 1>is an example of a molecular probably is symmetric. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the carbon and then the hydrogens are arranged around it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it does look symmetric in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>But as they get more complicated, you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the meno acids and the building blocks of life, these

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<v Speaker 1>are much more complicated structures. They're not all the same

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror. Yeah, Like if you take carbon a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of carbon and a bunch of hydrogen and some

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<v Speaker 1>other atoms. There are two different ways you could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>put them together. You could put them together in one

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<v Speaker 1>way or in a way that looks like it's mirror image,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not the same. Molecular just looks the same

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror, and it actually kind of affects how

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<v Speaker 1>it interacts with other molecules. Right, Like a right handed

0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:10.359
<v Speaker 1>molecules doesn't do the same things as a left handed molecule. Yeah, Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just mix them. You can't have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of left handed molecules and a bunch of right handed

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>molecules and assume that they will all act the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Because chemistry is like these little building blocks. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little machines made out of proteins. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>click together and just the right way to like activate

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<v Speaker 1>certain sites to cleave off bits of a molecule. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually trying to shake somebody's hand but using the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>hand it just doesn't sort of fit together, or trying

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<v Speaker 1>to dance where both people are leading. In order for

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry of life to happen, everything has to match.

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Means you need like all the pieces to have the

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<v Speaker 1>right chirality, so you can't mix and match left and

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<v Speaker 1>right handed chemistry of life. That's why I fastpoint people

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 1>when I meet them these days. It's just too confusing.

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But I was thinking, it's sort of like Tetris, right,

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Like in Tetris, you have pieces, and like every piece

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>in Tetris is made out of four blocks, but depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how you put them there is symmetrical or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you have a two white two block, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a metric and you can slide that in anywhere. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you have like an L shaped block, then you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta wait for the right left hand or the right

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>side L block to fit a certain spot in your

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>touchris pile. And for the chemistry of life to work,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you need to be either all one

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<v Speaker 1>chirality or all the opposite chirality. And that's exactly what

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>we see when you take organic molecules and you sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like distill them from living objects, from plants or whatever,

0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you see all one chirality. All of life on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>uses left handed amino acids and right handed sugars. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing alive on Earth that uses right handed amino acids

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<v Speaker 1>or left handed sugars that form of life just does

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<v Speaker 1>not exist, right, But it's it's like, it's possible to

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<v Speaker 1>make right handed amino acids, but all life on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>seems to use only left handed amino acids. And once

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<v Speaker 1>life got started and life starts to make amino acid,

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<v Speaker 1>it then only makes left kind, which is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of uses. If you synthesize some organic molecular like to

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<v Speaker 1>make one of the amino acids chemically from basic building blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll end up with both kinds, left handed and right handed.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you pull it out of life, if you

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<v Speaker 1>distill it from a living being, you'll only get one chirality, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're right. We think that life is possible with

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<v Speaker 1>the other orientation. We suspect that it is, though of

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<v Speaker 1>course we don't have any examples. We think the probably

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<v Speaker 1>universe is symmetric and that it would allow for life

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<v Speaker 1>to have both chiralities, but we don't actually know. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting to think about, Like maybe there's a version

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<v Speaker 1>of humans out there, maybe the multiverse or maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>this universe that uses only right handed amino acids, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe if we met them, I mean, we could shake hands,

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<v Speaker 1>but we couldn't. Maybe like have kids together, right, or

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<v Speaker 1>even eat their food, because our bodies cannot interact with

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of chemistry. I mean, like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>artificial sweeteners that are in our foods are really interesting

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>because they exploit the fact that, despite being a sugar

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<v Speaker 1>and they do interact with your tongue in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that you can haste them, our bodies can't actually take

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<v Speaker 1>them apart to use energy, so we can't metabolize them

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<v Speaker 1>even though we can taste them because they have the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong chirality. Interesting, Yeah, artificial sweet nurse you're saying, used

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong candidness of sugar molecules which activate our taste buds,

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>but they can't be processing our stomachs, yeah, because those

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<v Speaker 1>are different processes, right, Tasting something recognizing the sugar your

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<v Speaker 1>tongue doesn't actually break it down and extract the energy,

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and so it's like, oh, yeah, that's sugar plus one

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>for you. But then when he gets into your stomach,

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:34.760
<v Speaker 1>the little machines down there that take things apart and

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<v Speaker 1>actually extract the energy and turn it into a TP

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they're like, I don't know what to do here. My

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<v Speaker 1>locks are not fitting into these keys. So it just passes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>through you. Mmm. Interesting, this is something we've known for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, right. This was discovered by Louis Pasteur himself

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<v Speaker 1>more than a hundred and fifty years ago. He synthesized

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of chemicals and then he also distilled them

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<v Speaker 1>from life, and he noticed this difference. He noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that came from life had only one chirality,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that he synthesized himself had both kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of chirality. So it's been an open puzzle for more

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred fifty years of why life has this thing.

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>They call it bio chirality. But back then, how do

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we know that a molecule was right handed or left handed? Right?

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>We can like X ray it or have super electron microscopes.

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<v Speaker 1>The way he discovered it was that these chiralities interact

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<v Speaker 1>with light a little bit differently. The light can have

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<v Speaker 1>different polarizations, which is related to the spin of those photons,

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and that interacts slightly differently with those photons. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's how he detected that the chemicals that he pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out of life were different from the chemicals that he

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<v Speaker 1>synthesized in the laboratory. And he actually predicted before we

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<v Speaker 1>even knew about the weak force or parody violation. He

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<v Speaker 1>predicted that there must be some sort of cosmic particle

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<v Speaker 1>asymmetry which is generating this fundamental asymmetry in life. So

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred years before we discovered parody violation, he

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<v Speaker 1>basically predicted it. Wait one, he was thinking, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>reason of life and Earth is mostly left handed. One

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<v Speaker 1>type of molecule is something like something from space. He

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking that this asymmetry was revealing a deep asymmetry

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>in the universe itself. Right, there must be some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of cosmic origin to this. So pastor a road. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in eighteen forties Hero quote. If the foundations of

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<v Speaker 1>life are die symmetric, then because of die symmetric cosmic

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<v Speaker 1>forces operating at their origin. This, I think is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the links between life on the Earth and the cosmos.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the totality of forces in the universe. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's Pasteur writing in the eighteen hundreds, before we understood

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<v Speaker 1>life the quantum nature of these forces or particle spin

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<v Speaker 1>or parody violation at all, he had the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the handedness of life came somehow from the handedness

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. Whoa feels like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch there for Li to make that connection. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be one of these things where people write a

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<v Speaker 1>lot and most of their predictions are wrong, but when

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>they do hit the jackpot, people later on dig them

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<v Speaker 1>out and like, hey, look how forward thinking they are,

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the way you can find almost anything you like.

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<v Speaker 1>In the writings of mister Damis, I wonder if it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like saying like, maybe in a way he

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<v Speaker 1>would saying I mean, I'm sure no, he was assignist,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe in a way he's saying like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe God is left handed and that's why he made

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<v Speaker 1>a human, you know, humans in a particular handed or

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe God is right handed, that's why most humans

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<v Speaker 1>are right hand Yeah, that's another great example of asymmetry. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>why are humans mostly right handed and not left handed?

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<v Speaker 1>We know that it can work both ways, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>why are humans mostly right handed and not mostly left handed?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like sort of an arbitrary choice, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you wonder, like where does that come from? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it just random or is there a fundamental reason at

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the universe that's creating this asymmetry that's

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of the philosophy question, right, you always want to

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<v Speaker 1>know the why, not just the how, right, right, And

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.959
<v Speaker 1>we all know we're just here to set things up

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<v Speaker 1>for the greater discipline of philosophy. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I guess, if half of the humans on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>are right handed and half of them were left handed,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be pretty awkward all the time trying to

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<v Speaker 1>shake hands with people. So maybe the whole reason most

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<v Speaker 1>people right hand is just to you know, make things

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<v Speaker 1>more social. Yeah, I think that's beyond my pay grade.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that's a big question. Why does life

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth prefer one kind of handed molecules and not

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<v Speaker 1>the other? I guess one reason is that it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been random, right, Like it just you know, picked

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<v Speaker 1>the left handed molecules and went with that. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be basically a coin flip billions of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have gone either direction. But once you pick

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<v Speaker 1>one side, it's like symmetry breaking. Then you just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go with it. Like if a bunch of people are

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<v Speaker 1>seated at a table and you have like glasses placed

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<v Speaker 1>between the plates, is your glass on the left side

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<v Speaker 1>or the right side? As soon as one person picks

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<v Speaker 1>their glass on the right side, then everybody's going to

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<v Speaker 1>use the right handed glass. But they could have picked

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<v Speaker 1>the left one and everything would have worked just fine.

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>So we don't know if it was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>random event billions of years ago in the primordial soup

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<v Speaker 1>that led us to all have this one handedness, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there is a reason. Yeah, I wonder like if

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<v Speaker 1>there was some competition in the early life billions of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, like maybe a bunch of particles started assembling

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<v Speaker 1>with the left handed way and a bunch of particles

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>started assembling in a right handed way, and for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there was life could potentially early on there could

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<v Speaker 1>have been life with both handedness. It's just that one

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<v Speaker 1>somehow beat out the other. Yeah, it could be, or

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that it's selected for either before life

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<v Speaker 1>starts or after. Right, it might be that the processes

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<v Speaker 1>that generate these organic molecules naturally prefer to generate them

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<v Speaker 1>in a right handed or left handed way, like out

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>there in space when you have these organic molecules in soups,

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<v Speaker 1>are there equal amounts of left and right handed molecules?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is there an asymmetry there before life even gets started?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can also ask afterwards, if life gets

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<v Speaker 1>started equal leave often left and right handed, is there

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<v Speaker 1>some preference for is one more likely to survive? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there something about the universe which gives one of them

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<v Speaker 1>a boost? Right? I think you're asking, maybe God is

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<v Speaker 1>not ambidexterous. Maybe God this my preference for right or

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<v Speaker 1>left handed? And could we see that in the laws

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. And so let's get into whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not there is a connection between the left handedness of

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<v Speaker 1>life and the right handedness of quantum particles. But first

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<v Speaker 1>let's take another quick break. All right, we are doing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pre work here for philosophers or warming

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the crowd up here with some interesting thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>universe and life on Earth, asking the question can particles

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>spin or did particles spin affect life on Earth? And

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<v Speaker 1>so we've talked about how fundamental quantum particles have a spin,

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<v Speaker 1>they have an upper down spin. And we also talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how life on Earth has a preference for left

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<v Speaker 1>handed molecules over right handed amino acid molecules. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the question is are these two things related. Does the

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<v Speaker 1>spin of sparticles of fact how molecules form or do

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<v Speaker 1>somehow the laws of physics somehow prefer left handed amino acids.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into that connection. It is a really fun question.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was reading this very long and detailed paper

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<v Speaker 1>about the connections between particle spin and bio chirality and

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<v Speaker 1>actually start out with a bit of a rant, a

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<v Speaker 1>complaint about calling life left handed or right handed, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of ways you can define it. So

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<v Speaker 1>they prefer to define the orientation of our chemistry as

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<v Speaker 1>live l i v E and the opposite orientation as

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>evil live backwards e v I L. So this whole

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<v Speaker 1>paper talks about normal life versus evil life. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a physics paper or is this a blog post?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a science paper published in the Prestigious journal.

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<v Speaker 1>And somehow calling life evil or live is better than

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<v Speaker 1>calling it the left handed or right handed. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a philosophy question. So this is all based kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on on a paper that tries to make connection

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<v Speaker 1>between quantum particle spin and the kind of the corality

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<v Speaker 1>or the handedness of life molecules. Is there a connection

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>danial between these two things. So there is a plausible

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>mechanism for connecting the preference of the weak force to

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<v Speaker 1>produce left handed particles and life selecting for this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of chirality. There's a plausible mechanism. It's very very thin,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a very very slight preference, and it's not something

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>we've proven, but it is possible, and it comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to particles from space. Right. Cosmic rays are these particles

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that hit the Earth at very very high speeds and

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>they come from like the centers of other galaxies, or

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>they come from our Sun, and they're just normal particles, protons, electrons, positrons.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they hit the top of the atmosphere and they

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>create big shower of particles. Because a particle hits the

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere is sort of like a meteor hitting the atmosphere.

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>It heats up and slows down and spreads out its energy,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>so you get a big shower of particles on the surface.

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And this is something very normal. It's something we've been

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>experiencing as living beings on the surface of the Earth

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>for a very very long time. Cosmic rates hit the

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and create essentially radiation on the surface of the

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Earth that interacts with us and interacts with our organic chemistry,

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>specifically our d n A. Right. We sort of can't

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>see it on our on our regular skies, but you

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>can sort of see it in the northern lights, right.

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what the northern lights are. Particles hitting

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere. Yeah, Particles hitting the atmosphere and in that

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>case getting shunted up to the poles by the magnetic fields.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>One of the reason that we don't have more radiation

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>here on the surface of the Earth is our atmosphere.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>The second reason is our magnetic field acts sort of

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like a shield, but some of it does get through

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>and gets down to the surface and affects the way

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>life operates. You know. A crucial element of evolution is mutation. Right.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't want just to copy the genes of the parents.

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>You want to try something new, which requires either making

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 1>a mistake when you're transcribing the DNA from the parent

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to the child, or having a mistake introduced from for example,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a cosmic ray. A mu on passing through your DNA,

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>for example, could alter the chemistry of it in the

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>same way that like radiation can give you cancer by

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>changing the fundamental operation of your cells, it can also

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>change your d NA. Yeah, and that's kind of an

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>essential ingredient in life and evolution, right, Like if you

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't have mutations, then life would never evolve, It would

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>never change, like that's how it started. But also like,

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you need mutations just to evolve life because the DNA

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>never changed. If it copied perfectly from one generation to

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the other, you would just still have the same organism

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you started with. You would never evolve or come up

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 1>with better versions of the species. Yeah, in order to

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>explore the space of all possible organisms effectively, right, you

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>need a population that has different abilities, and the best

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>way to do that is to introduce random mutation. That's

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>essentially what evolution does. So cosmic rays have played an

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>important part in our evolution. We think it's actually key.

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Like if you could build a perfect shield so we

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>had no radiation on the surface of the Earth, then

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the history of life on Earth would be very very different.

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>It might not have succeeded. Right, Well, you would still

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>have mutations, did you just wouldn't have them from radiation

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>coming from space. Right, And we don't really know what

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>would happen in that scenario, right, life would evolve very differently.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Changes the conditions of life, And so what we do

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>know is that the conditions we have here on Earth

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>are the ones that gave birth to us, right to

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this kind of life, Right, I guess, I guess if

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 1>we had less of a shielding from radiations from space,

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.399
<v Speaker 1>we would have had more radiation and maybe too many mutations, right,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in which case we wouldn't have evolved either. Yeah, it's

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>really interesting question is sort of like bio philosophy, like

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>what is the best rate of mutation? We just don't

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>know the answer to that. People theorize and run experiments.

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, we have a certain level of radiation

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and we think that that's a key part of how

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>we evolved to be who we are. Right, So, then

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>how does left the right handedness come into it? Well,

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.919
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that these cosmic rays that come from

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>space are not equally left or right handed. When we

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about the particle spin, is what happens when a

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>particle hits the upper atmosphere is it creates the shower

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of particles. Typically, these particles called pions, which don't live

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>very long. They tend to decay, and they decay into muans.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:25.479
<v Speaker 1>That decay is done by the weak force. The weak

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>forces the thing that breaks up the pions, It turns

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>it into a muon and also for example, a new trino,

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and because the weak forces in charge of that moment,

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it only makes left handed muans because that's all it

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>knows how to do. It doesn't know how to make

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>right handed muans. It ignores right handed muans. It pretends

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't even exist. So, coming from space, were overwhelmed

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>with left handed muans, which means that the cosmic rays,

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, are not symmetric. Right, so the

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.080
<v Speaker 1>environment we've involved in is not symmetric because of the

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>weak force, and those left handed muans tend to interact

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>with our d NA slightly differently than right handed muans would,

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>meaning that most of the meals that come down on

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Earth are left handed, not right handed exactly. Those muons

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>are left handed, and that creates a slight preference for

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>left handed amino acids. We think that left handed muons

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>have a slightly higher probability of ionizing left handed amino

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>acids than right handed amino acids. Wait, what, why why

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>is it that left handed muons interact mostly with left

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>handed amino acids. It's very subtle effect, but it's again

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:32.920
<v Speaker 1>because of the weak force. The weak force has this

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>asymmetry and has very small effects on the chemistry of life.

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>It can, for example, change the electric and magnetic dipole

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>moments of some of these atoms inside these molecules, so

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.840
<v Speaker 1>their shape is like slightly different if they're left handed

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>or right handed, which means that the muons passing through

0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>them are like more or less likely to interact with

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 1>them because they spend like more or less time within

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that electric or magnetic atomic fields. It's a very subtle

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>calculat Wait, are you saying that the left handed muons

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>showering the Earth, coming down on earth thrower atmosphere are

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 1>more likely to interact with a certain type of atom

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>or a certain type of electron that you can only

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 1>see on the left handed molecules. Yeah, that's right. Left

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>handed muans will interact with right handed or left handed

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>amino acids, but they are more likely to interact with

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 1>left handed amino acids than right handed just by a

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's not like a complete preference. Why because there,

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like a left handed amino acid is different than the

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>right hand aminu acid, not because of any spin, it's

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>just how the particles atoms are arranged. So why would

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the left handed muan, which is a tiny tiny particle

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>care about the giant structure of a molecule, because when

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the muon is interacting with that atom, it's interacting not

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>just with the electromagnetic force, but also with the weak force,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 1>because the mulan feels the weak force. And so there

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is a difference between the left and right handed amino

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 1>acids because of the weak force affects the electric dipole

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>moment in the mag netic dipole moments of these atoms,

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and so that affects how the left or right handed

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>particles will interact with them. Are you saying that like

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a left handed amino acid is made up of different

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.399
<v Speaker 1>atoms or different atoms with different spins than the right

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>handed amino acid. No, it's the same atoms, right, it's

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 1>just flipped to be left handed, and so the arrangement

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>is slightly different, and that gives a different pattern of

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the electromagnetic fields. And this is a very small effect, right,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 1>This is really a tiny effect. It's like second order.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>This effect is like three parts in twenty thousand. Right,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>most of the time these things will be treated exactly

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the same, because most of the time is the electromagnetic

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>interaction that dominates, which is symmetric, but the weak force

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it is a thing that mediates at interaction, and

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>so it tends to prefer the left handed version of

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>these amino acids. But again just a tiny fraction of

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the time. Oh, it seems to be like a totally

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.799
<v Speaker 1>different effect, like a left handed muon. It could have

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>been that the left handed muon prefers to interact with

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>the right handed molecule. Right, It's just that it just

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>so happens that the molecules that left handed meals like

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.399
<v Speaker 1>to interact with a little bit more are the ones

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>we call the left handed amino acids. Yeah, that's right.

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Or in this paper they call them the live choice.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>And the paper they go through this very complicated calculation

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and they come out with this prediction. They say, we

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>predict that there is a difference and it has to

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>do with the time the particle spends traversing the electromagnetic

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>field and how the weak force interacts with it, and

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>so they predict this very slight effect. Again, really really

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>tiny effect. But the idea is that maybe over millions

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and billions of years, these cosmic rays introduced more ionization

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>effects in our kind of chirality and not in the

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>evil the alternative kind of bio chirality which give us

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>a boost, which let us explore these things faster, create

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>more mutations and sort of like adapt more rapidly to

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>changing conditions, And that maybe over billions of years, lad

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>life to have this chirality instead of the opposite hiality

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>because we get more mutations from left handed cosmic rays.

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I see. I think it's all making sense now because

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.839
<v Speaker 1>there are many different kinds of amino acids right like,

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:13.879
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe what this writer is saying is that

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of different kinds of amino acids, but the

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>ones that are used by life right now, he wants

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to call those like A and the one. The versions

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that are not used by us, he wants to call

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 1>those B and so he wants he's trying to say,

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.719
<v Speaker 1>or she's trying to say that left handed muons, can

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you can prove that maybe that left handed muans somehow

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>like to interact more with a kinds of amino acids

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>than be kind of amino acids. They're saying that he's

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>saying left and right for the muons and left and

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>right for the molecules is confusing. Let's just call them

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>molecules A or B, A being the ones that life

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>prefers seems to have preferred here on Earth. And then

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>let's take the left and right hand for the Muans,

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>where in the article they call A live and be evil.

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we can go with A versus B. Yeah,

0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it sounds a little more benign. I mean, if we

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>do meet like humans from another place and they have

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the other handedness of their biochyrality, you're not gonna let

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.279
<v Speaker 1>me call them evil humans? No, because how do you

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 1>know you're not the evil one? Maybe left handed humans

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>are better than right hand humans. I think I've just

0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>realized we are the badis, aren't we? That's right? The

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>enemy is us. We've met the enemy and it is us, Yes, exactly.

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's the idea. And nobody knows if this effect

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>is big enough to actually have an impact on life

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>at all. There's a lot of dot dot dots here.

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.240
<v Speaker 1>It's like almost the same as pasteurs saying like maybe

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>somehow the universe prefers one kind of chirality. This is

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the way that the universe does seem to prefer one

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.319
<v Speaker 1>side of a symmetric pair, and you can draw some

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>dots between that and how it might have influenced life.

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:52.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not conclusive to say that this is definitely why

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>life has this reality, but maybe the the idea here

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>is that the kinds of I mean, assets that flourished

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 1>here on Earth flourished because they're more likely to be

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 1>affected by left handed new muans, which is what the

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 1>universe prefers to make. And so it's in a way,

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the universe kind of preferred to make the a kind

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of amino acid or the one the kind that lead

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to us, at least here on Earth. You know, in

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>our Solar system, Earth is the only planet that has

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere, which creates these muon showers that come all

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the way down to the Earth's surface. Muans don't last

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>very long. They last form micro seconds, but because they're

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>going so fast, they actually do penetrate down to the

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Earth because their clocks are time dilated due to special relativity,

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 1>so they tend to die off right around the Earth's surface.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>If the Earth's atmosphere was thicker, for example, they would

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>make it all the way down to the ground. Right,

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's just our solar system. This preference for left

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>handed muons is universal, right, It's a basically a lot

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>of the universe. And so if there are other planets

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>like ours with an atmosphere, and if maybe the very

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>existence of life depends on having that kind of atmosphere

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>in that planet, the condition may also prefer the A

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of amino acid that we're made out of, because

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the universe is prefers left handed muance and so over there,

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>also the universe will prefer the A kind of amino acid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the hypothesis right, not yet proven, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that maybe this is the reason that we have

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<v Speaker 1>the A kind of amino acid and not the B kind.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying we're less likely to meet evil twin

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<v Speaker 1>versions of us out there, were more likely to meet

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<v Speaker 1>people who are just like us. Yeah, maybe particle spin

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<v Speaker 1>will make for happy reunions with aliens. Yes, with non

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<v Speaker 1>awkward hand shaps. Maybe we should just fist bump the

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<v Speaker 1>aliens when they get here, just in case. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>always works. I'm up for that that way, Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to have that awkward question when you meet

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<v Speaker 1>an alien. Hey are you right handed or left handed? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Fist bump? All right. Well, that's an interesting idea that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the universe does have a preference for the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of life that we're made out of, and that we

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<v Speaker 1>were maybe destined to be the way we are right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Particles six is actually relevant to our life

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<v Speaker 1>and your life and all life in the universe. We

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed that. Thanks for joining us, see you

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