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Good morning everybody? 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 3: Hello, Good morning, sir. 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: I love this as this intro music for Petros. I 41 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 4: don't know something about it. 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Man, I'd like to change it, but that's okay. 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: What would you like to change it? 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 5: I don't want I mean, why would I want jellow 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 5: ball to be my intro. 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: That's what makes it fun. 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: All Right, it's your show, it's not my show. I 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 5: just said I'd like to change it. We should change 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: it on you coming be different every week? 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I probably like into like awareness, like the awareness 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: of when that song plays, we know your voices. Yeah, 52 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, you might swerve in that corner, 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: I might do that. 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: How you feel about USC right now? I mean, I'm sure, 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure Q is going to do it, but I 57 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: beat you too. Beat Q to it. I'm sure he'll 58 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: give you a more detailed question. 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: But I mean, well, they have a buy and then 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: they go to play Nebraska. 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: How you feel about where they're at right now? 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 5: Pretty much the way I felt when the season started. 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: What is it that they are a pretty middling Big 64 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: Ten football team that's going to have a hard time 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 5: being physical down in and down out on the road. 66 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: I think it's proven that their linebackers are catchers mits. 67 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: When you run at them, they can go sideline to 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: sideline pretty well. And I mean, you see it. I 69 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 5: don't have to tell you what they're like. They're not 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 5: a physical football team and they probably never will be 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: against Lincoln Riley. I mean, with Lincoln Riley as their 72 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: coach against teams. 73 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: On the road like Notre Dame. 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: You got to give them credit for beating Michigan coming 75 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 5: out here, but it's hard to go across the country 76 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 5: and play in somebody's legendary big stadium, whether that stadium's 77 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: on the West Coast or that stadiums on the East Coast. 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 5: It's hard, especially when you have physical matchups every week. 79 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 5: And that's what the Big Ten's about. So they're going 80 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: to struggle because they're not built like that, and their 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: coach is more of a spread amount offensive coordinator type 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: who will call a double pass deep into the second 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 5: half of a rivalry game in the pouring rain and 84 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: then say, well, no one complained last year when we 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: ran it against UCLA and it worked, And it's like, well, yeah, 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 5: it worked. It was dry against UCLA. Notre Dame's got 87 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 5: way better coaches, and I'm pretty sure they saw the 88 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: double pass on tape that you ran in a rivalry 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: game last year. Other than that, yeah, no complaints. Just 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: like the words of Dannis Green that we all remember 91 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 5: so well, us he is who we thought they were 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 5: and that's why we took the. 93 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: Day, crown them, Crown they they But here's the reality. 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: They still have a chance, Petros. 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: If they went out, you'd have to think ten and 96 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: two gets them a playoff spot. And then even if 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: they went out, I mean, I guess obviously Indiana would 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: have to lose and that would open a potential door 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: for them. 100 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: But do they look like they would layoff team to you? No, 101 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: But I also don't know how if they went out. 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: You know, you could say that about a lot of teams. Well, 103 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: here's all say is I think they'll beat Nebraska. 104 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: It'll really come down to if they could beat Oregon 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 4: Alpa Dotson, which seems like a tall task. 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: I'll admit that. 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: But but I guess I'll ask you this, if they 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: finished nine and three, they don't make the playoffs. We 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: obviously we've talked about this with LeVar, Like we saw 110 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 4: the decision to Penn State made. At what point does 111 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: Jen Cohen, at what point does USC go Look, we're 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: four years into this, we haven't made a playoff, I 113 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: haven't won a conference championship. Maybe we should start looking 114 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: at buy it out, Like maybe we should start looking 115 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: at bringing in someone who we feel like can get 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: us back to a national championship caliber program. 117 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: Well, they have to be physically built to do it 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: week in and week out. Like you said, this is 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 5: something we've discussed a whole lot at Penn State, and 120 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 5: I'm sure LeVar, being so close to it, knows the 121 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: ins and outs of it. But when you're super close 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 5: to something, you don't reveal that. And that's fine. But 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 5: at Penn State somebody had to say, that's enough, here's 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: the money. 125 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: And that's what happened with Clay Helton a long time ago. 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 5: When Lincoln Riley was hired, somebody named Rick Caruso, a 127 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 5: trustee and a guy running for mayor, said that's enough, 128 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 5: here's your you know, eighty million dollars or whatever it 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: is to get a new situation in here. 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, somebody's going to have to do that. And if 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: you win nine. 132 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: Games or eight games, it's kind of hard to justify 133 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 5: coming up with ni eighty million dollars. So they're really 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: kind of stuck in this Lincoln Riley era and they're 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 5: just not physically built to compete the way they want. 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 4: Is it still that much though, like everyone's been saying 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 4: that since the first year, Well, you have to figure 138 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: it was like it was one hundred last year. 139 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: So I mean, I'm just I'm not an economist, so 140 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: I'm just rudimentarily subtracting ten. 141 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Million a year. 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 5: So now we'll be at ninety and then next year 143 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 5: we'll be at eighty, and then you still have to 144 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 5: bring somebody else in and pay that guy. So I 145 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 5: don't really, I don't exactly know, but it seems like 146 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: us he's kind of stuck in the Lincoln Riley situation. 147 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they can run a nine on seven period 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: at some point, because it would be great because it 149 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: doesn't look like they do much ever see any runs 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: between the tackles. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 151 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: I mean, and Lincoln Riley said, they were like, well, 152 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: you know the match that your defense's physicality against Michigan 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: come compared to the way they were at Notre Dame. 154 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 5: He said, oh, it was about the same. But you know, 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: we just it was some assignment airs. It's like, it's 156 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: not an assignment air when every time they're running back 157 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: touches the ball, he gets twenty five yards. That's to 158 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 5: me in football, that's you know, I was watching the 159 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 5: game too, Lincoln. It's it's very interesting the things he says. 160 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 5: I mean, two weeks later, after the Illinois loss, which 161 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 5: you were at Brady, he was sitting on air answering 162 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: questions and saying that complaining about holding calls from two 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: weeks ago that would have changed the game. 164 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, your team got run over. 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 5: Like if you can't stop the run, you don't get 166 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: to come out and say, well, that one holding call. 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 5: I mean, this is USC, for God's sakes. So yeah, 168 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: that's kind of the state of the state. But it's 169 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 5: not really changed. It's been that way for years now. 170 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 5: Lincoln rally ever did was with Clay Hilton's players, I mean, 171 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 5: and that's the funniest part. And they and that wasn't 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 5: good enough. They lost twice to Utah and they got 173 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 5: beat by Tulane and Willie Fritz in the Cotton Bookla. 174 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what do you want me to say, Petricks? 175 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is asking you to rank 176 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: the disappointments for USC over the past couple of decades 177 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: wherever you want to feel about it. But where does 178 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: the idea of yeah, we're good on this historic rivalry 179 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: not playing it anymore? 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: Where does that stack up for you. 181 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Does this feel you know where it stacks up. I'm 182 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: livid about it. 183 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: I'm absolutely livid about it, and I hate the internet experts. 184 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 5: It's like, well, actullary, you I doesn't really need to 185 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 5: play a Notre Dame anymore. You f you forever for 186 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: saying that at USC and Notre Dame and that rivalry 187 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: marks the reach of college football and its history. The 188 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 5: fact that there was a team good enough on the 189 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 5: West Coast to make it interesting to play Notre Dame 190 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: every year when people were taking trains to go play 191 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: and USC because of Lincoln Riley and his proxy in 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 5: the media, Colin Cowherd has created this narrative like, well, 193 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 5: we don't need to play it so late in the 194 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 5: year and the odd years, we don't need to play 195 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 5: it in October. We don't need to play it in October. 196 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 5: We want to move it as if they're going to 197 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: get something out of the negotiation. I hate to say this. 198 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: Notre Dame is absolutely right just saying well, why would 199 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: we change what we've always done? What is wrong with 200 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: the tradition that's been set for years? Who cares that 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: you're playing in the Big ten? I mean if USC's 202 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: playing the Big Ten. The College Football Playoff is only 203 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: going to get larger, and playing Missouri State and Georgia 204 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: Southern early in the year is not going to help 205 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: your resume. Look at him this year and helped it 206 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 5: all going out to Notre Dame and winning that game, 207 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: or playing it very competitively and making it great like 208 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: it was back in five and the anniversary that we 209 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 5: recently just passed. All of those things bring attention to you. 210 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: That's going to help you make the College Football Playoff 211 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 5: as it expands. 212 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: It's not going to hurt you. 213 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 5: And I understand the physical toll, but you're USC football 214 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: and it's wrapped up in our identity, at least mine 215 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: and most of my teammates that I talked to and 216 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: people that I talked to off the air. The fact 217 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 5: that you play Notre Dame is what's special about going 218 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: to USC. The fact that you play in South Bend, 219 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: not Allegiant or at the Atlantic's Hotel or at so 220 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: Far or some dumbass modern cathedral of Death that they build. 221 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 5: Now I'm talking about in freaking South Bend, and it's 222 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 5: a special for the Notre Dame players to take the 223 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 5: field at the La Coliseum, and it's great to play 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: at Penn State or Ohio State or Michigan and blah 225 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 5: blah blah and Lincoln that's all great too, but it's 226 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: not the same and it doesn't mean the same thing. 227 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: And you go to USSE to play that game. That's 228 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 5: what makes USC special because it marks the reach of 229 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 5: college football and the reason college football is popular coast 230 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: to coast. My God, in the Michigan Fight song, it 231 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 5: says Champions of the West because that's how far football 232 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: reached at the time when the song was written. But 233 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 5: USSE in the twenties was getting on trains and playing 234 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: against the legendary New Rockney teams. It means something. And 235 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: it's not the same as the Holy War. It's not 236 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 5: the same as the backyard Brawl. It's not the same 237 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 5: as a lot of these rivalries that have gone away 238 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: over the years. And I don't want to hear it. Well, 239 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 5: it's a bad time for college football. 240 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: Traditionalist f U. 241 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 5: This transcends that it is a cross continent rivalry, intersectional rivalry, 242 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: and it should never go away and it should have 243 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 5: never been questioned by anybody at USC. And I love 244 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: and respect Jen Cohen but the fact that it seems 245 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 5: like she's starting to carry Lincoln's water in this regard, 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: just like just like Colin Cowhard, who in God's name 247 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: is Lincoln Riley or anybody else who's coaching at USC 248 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: to think that they can even touch the Notre Dame. 249 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: The only thing you're allowed to do with the Notre 250 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 5: Dame rivalry is how you deal with your team about 251 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 5: it leading up to the game. You should have no 252 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: say in the scheduling of what is a legendary, meaningful 253 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 5: game to everybody. You are a fart in the history 254 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: of the USC football. 255 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: Program in the wind. Exactly in a world would you 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: bring in? 257 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: Who would you bring in? 258 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: Like if you were to say. 259 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 5: Somebody who will coach against Notre Dame without bitching about it? 260 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 2: How about that? That's where I'd take that at this point. 261 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Dang, anybody anybody that wild coach against Notre Dame. 262 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: And look and a fil you just we've talked about 263 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: it us. He's good. If you build the. 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: Offensive front and defensive front with local talent and have 265 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 5: actual coaches there, iron sharpens iron. If your on line 266 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: is great, your d line will be great. And that's 267 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 5: been generationally proven over the years at USC. Don't tell 268 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: me you can't find offensive linemen in California anymore. There's 269 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 5: plenty of them. They're all going to Oregon and playing a. 270 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: Lot of them playing a modern day I mean, I 271 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: get to watch some of those games. 272 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Those kids are huge. 273 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's plenty and USC. But but Lincoln Riley is 274 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: not a coach. You mentioned it. It looks like they 275 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: don't run nine on seven. It looks like they're not 276 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: physically up to the task. And you know what, if 277 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: you're not physically up to the task, you ain't gonna 278 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 5: win the Big Ten e anyway, whether you play Notre 279 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 5: Dame or not, You're probably not gonna go to the 280 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 5: College Football Playoff either whether you play Notre Dame or not, 281 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 5: because you don't have the chops physically to compete in 282 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: this conference. And that's probably why Lincoln Riley was so 283 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: pissed that they went to the Big Ten in the 284 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 5: first place. After he took the job. I don't think 285 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: he took the job to coach in the Big Ten. 286 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: But look tough, if you're going to blow up one 287 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 5: hundred and eight years of history with the Pac twelve 288 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: and blow all of that up. And that's understandable because 289 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: how mismanaged it was. You don't get to change your 290 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: tradition with Notre Dame just because you're in. 291 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: A tougher conference. Shut up, shut up, and live with it. 292 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: It's a college football playoff. 293 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 5: It's not the BCS, it's not you know, only four 294 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: teams are going now you have plenty It helps you 295 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 5: to play Notre Dame in. 296 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: The college football playoff era. 297 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: You got plenty of opportunity to make the team tough 298 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: and physical. 299 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: And it's been four years and he hasn't. So that's 300 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: the reality of it. 301 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: But I'm disgusted with the messaging that comes out of 302 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 5: USC and some of the people that are housemen at USC, 303 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: some of them Brady works with very closely, and the 304 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 5: things that they're saying, the things that they're saying, it 305 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: should disqualify them from talking about it. As much as 306 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: they've accomplished. These people are so scared to criticize the 307 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 5: university because they're scared to lose their access and they're 308 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 5: scared to not be the celebrated people at at the place. 309 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: F that you have to you have to stand up 310 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 5: for something, and and this is if I if there's 311 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 5: one thing I'm going to freak out about. It's the 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 5: se Notre Dame rivalry, and I'll I'll use my platform 313 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 5: to try to freak out about it and make pull myself. 314 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 4: I mean, everything you said is so well said. And 315 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: then this isn't like a Notre Dame biased opinion on this. 316 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: It's just this robbery's survived through world wars, and I 317 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: think a lot of people, you know, tend to forget 318 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: like Notre Dame was in some tough financial spots in particular, 319 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: I want to say during World War Two. That's one 320 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: of the reasons why the Naval Academy end up using 321 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: Notre Dame's campus as a base, and why that rivalry 322 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: has still existed to this day. And so again separate 323 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: conversation there, but you think about a lot of the 324 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: things that our country has gone through and yet. 325 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: That rivalry is still sustained. 326 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: But us he doesn't want to run nine on seven consistently, 327 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: so we can't play Notre him anymore. 328 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: And so yeah, maybe there's some truth to that. I 329 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: think what's really interesting about all this is is like 330 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: I think. 331 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: About the era of the USC football team that I 332 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: played against, and I really didn't fully understand obviously, besides 333 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: the talent, what made that era for se special. And 334 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: I always saw Pete Carroll from afar, but when I 335 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: went there in twenty thirteen when he was in the 336 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks, I got a glimpse and what I came 337 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 4: to understand with Pete and his style of coaching. And 338 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: I know it's not working out great with the Raiders 339 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 4: right now it's only year one, though, is as much 340 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: as well as much as he's positive and there's this raw, 341 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: raw element to him, you know what he also is 342 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 4: He's not afraid of conflict. He's not afraid to tell 343 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: you this is your weakness. We need to work on this. Yeah, 344 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: you need to get this better. 345 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: You know those teams you know, I mean every drill 346 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: every day, like you at the NFL level, where like 347 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: people are like you can't do that. 348 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: It's like, no, we did that. 349 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 4: Like there was a scoreboard that kept a score offense 350 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: and defense even in the Pros, which I never experienced 351 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 4: that before my life with any other organization. And I 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: played for a good amount, so it was like a 353 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: great study of like, holy crap, you could do this 354 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: in the Pros and so I think about that. I'm 355 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: just like, it's crazy to me, how at no point, 356 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: like you just haven't seen it since he left, Yeah, 357 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: at Southern count but it existed, like you had the 358 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: growing example, and no one's tried to replicate it there. 359 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 5: You don't have to be Pete Carroll to make a 360 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 5: talented team compete in practice. If you have talented players 361 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 5: and you pay attention to your fronts and you make 362 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 5: them compete in practice at a place like USC, you're 363 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 5: going to dominate other people. And that's what we saw 364 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 5: back then for all of Pete's zitz and the lack 365 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: of institutional control and what ended up happening. 366 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 5: And I remember something similar with Jim Harbaugh when he 368 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: took over at Stanford. He was doing drills and being 369 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 5: physical with the team in a way that you just 370 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: wouldn't with a college football team. You know, they were 371 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 5: doing the drills LeVar where the guys are laying on 372 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: the ground, you know, with their heads and then you 373 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 5: know the whistle and you get up and you have 374 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 5: to tackle. They were doing the diamond drill, you know, 375 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 5: get your head in front and tackle and a pretty 376 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: close to full speed and you know, this is Stanford football. 377 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 5: That's how they became the intellectual brutality version of Stanford 378 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: football that we saw go with Harbaugh and David Shaw. 379 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 5: And people said, you can't do that. He said, bs 380 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 5: I can. And what what happened in two thousand and nine? 381 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: They ran power so many times with Toby Gerhart right 382 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: us He's face. Some people think it ran Pete Carole 383 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 5: right out of the Pac ten to in those days. 384 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: Uh, and and it kind of did. I was there. 385 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: I called that game on Fox, So. 386 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 5: Uh, it's uh, it is a it's a wild situation, uh, 387 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 5: for those that are close to it in real life. 388 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: US. He is not a part of the college football 389 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: playoff conversation. 390 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 5: I don't think, uh, if they went out, I don't know. 391 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: They haven't proven anything on the road in this conference 392 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 5: other than beating Purdue. So we'll see how it plays out. 393 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: M I was going to give you one last question 394 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: that would be about the Dodgers. What's your fining about it? 395 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of a foregone conclusion at this point. 396 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how many games, four or five games, 397 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: so how many is gonna take? 398 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: What year was it that the Raptors beat the the 399 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: that was Canada versus California. Oh yeah, right, and the 400 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 5: Warriors were a heavy favorite, right, and the Raptors beat 401 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 5: them in six, and Canada celebrated and then Kawhi Leonard left. 402 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 5: But it is an opportunity to get after Canada's ass. 403 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 5: And it's obviously a great thing for Fox as opposed 404 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 5: to you know, Seattle versus the Brewers or something like that, 405 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: because Otani is such an attraction and such an anomaly 406 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 5: and such. And then beyond that, the Dodgers are a 407 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 5: really likable team. And I am around this team reluctantly 408 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 5: just because of the amount of shows I have to 409 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: do from Dodger Stadium and go down on the field 410 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 5: and all that. And the truth is the truth. Freddie 411 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: Freeman's there on his knees, hands and knees doing fielding 412 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: drills before the games, not doing anything else. 413 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: I was just curious. 414 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: I know, I knew where we were at with that. 415 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: You know, these guys are humbling themselves, working hard every 416 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 5: single day. 417 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: Every day. 418 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: I'm out there, they're out there early, they're out there interacting. 419 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 5: They're very impressive, and it's it's I guess the d 420 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 5: word dynasty needs to be brought up. But uh, but 421 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: there's been big favorites before that go down, and baseball 422 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: is tricky. 423 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: But the fact that the Dodgers have. 424 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 5: Those four starters Blake Smell, Tyler Glass, now Yoshiyamamoto and 425 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 5: then Otani, for God's sake. Yeah, the fact that they 426 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 5: have those my battleship. 427 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 2: The fact that. 428 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: That those four is pretty that they're all up and 429 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: running right now doing what they're doing is is pretty 430 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 5: darn impressive because last year, remember the pitching story was 431 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 5: the Dodgers starters were weak and the bullpen carried them through. 432 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: This this year, it's the opposite. 433 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: Of all the athletes you've covered in town. Here in 434 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: la Otani, the most impressive you've seen, most complete you've seen. 435 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: I don't you know, I don't know, like Lebron, No, 436 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 5: not Lebron unless you're gonna be I mean, Lebron is 437 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: getting less and less popular every breath he takes. 438 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 2: It's awesome. I you know that the Otani thing is 439 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: weird because I just don't think what he does is such, 440 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 2: is so spectacular. It's just it's beyond our perspective, right. 441 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we almost don't know how to react to him. 442 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 5: Because none of us watch Babe Ruth play. I mean, 443 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: there's nobody that's ever done anything like this in modern 444 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 5: times or really ever. 445 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: Babe Ruth didn't do it. 446 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: He quit pitching, So what we're watching we have no 447 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 5: perspective on. So you end up kind of fumbling over 448 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 5: your words and sounding like an idiot, just like I did. 449 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: But yeah, I guess without without really knowing what I'm 450 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: talking about, Otani is the most impressive athlete I've ever 451 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: seen in person. But to me, that's that can't be 452 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 5: true because I just don't understand what he's doing, you know, 453 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 5: to me, like like Curtis Conway playing quarterback at Hawthorne 454 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 5: High School and running the option like he was Trawn, 455 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 5: that's the most impressive thing. 456 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: You know, those kind of things jump out to. 457 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 5: Me more because I understand the sport of football more, 458 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 5: and I say, wow, I've never seen anybody do that 459 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: before the Otani thing, even baseball, people who really understand 460 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: the sport, even his own teammates, struggle to define it. 461 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: And I think that's the ultimate compliment to what somebody's 462 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: doing on a field of competition. 463 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: You calling a game this weekend. 464 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 5: No, I'm not good enough to work this weekend whatever, 465 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: but I will be watching the Organ steal your face Organ, 466 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: Grateful Ducks, Grateful Dead uniform game because that's kind of 467 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 5: cool to me. 468 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: Actually are sweet. 469 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 5: They're playing Wisconsin, but that's secondary to the uniforms. And 470 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 5: even more exciting, a guy named Jake Jolivett. 471 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: Who is a great gally. 472 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a great producer at Fox, and he's a 473 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 5: huge Deadhead and a great music aficionado, but a huge head, 474 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 5: and he is going to do the you know, he 475 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 5: always does a great playlist and soundtrack for the game 476 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: and with the music that they license. But this one 477 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 5: is going to be epic. So I'm looking forward to that. 478 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: So I'll be watching that. I think it's a four 479 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 5: o'clock game. 480 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: What's the Grateful Dead? What is the you know connection 481 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: there between them and Oregon? 482 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 5: Are they like the Dad used to play auts and 483 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 5: I think the Dead played aughtson Stadium ten times? 484 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: Oh wow? 485 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 5: So one of their archivists said that the university was 486 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: kind of their home away from home. Really was a crunchy, 487 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 5: grooven type of place. They did a benefit for some 488 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: creamery that made a yogurt they liked that was in 489 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: trouble and did a big benefit show for this creamery. 490 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 5: There there's a lot of history with them and Oregon, 491 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 5: and let's be honest in your gene. 492 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot. 493 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: Of crunchy groovers smoking reefers and that's a big part 494 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 5: of what's going on with the Dad shows. 495 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: So that's a good point, all right, Petros, we always 496 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: appreciate it. He is the cost of the Petros of 497 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: Money show that you can hear on the blowtorch AM 498 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: five to seventy LA Sports Fox college football analysts get 499 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: him on X at the op and a tremendous job 500 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: as usual. Thanks p all Right, everybody, man, Petro's got 501 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: spicy there with that usc Notre Dame stuff. 502 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 503 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: I get it though, and I've listened to his comments 504 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: on Speaking. 505 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 3: Of spicy, guys, listen, if you want to throw some 506 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 3: hot sauce on on uh on Petros or Q or 507 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: or even so it's spicy, so maybe even Loraina's toes. 508 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, but. 509 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: Did you on you? Oh what the hell? 510 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm just saying some people out there are trying to 511 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: build some hot sauce on her toes. 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They're obviously always looking 570 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: to improve things in the NFL, so Executive Vice President 571 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: President Troy Vincent decided to take a look at the 572 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: on side kick and I'd be following to say, quote, 573 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: when you start getting a less than five percent recovery rate. 574 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: Now that we've seen what has happened with the dynamic kickoff, 575 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: and maybe time for the membership to revisit some of 576 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: those things that may be out of ordinary. 577 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: Like the on side kick. 578 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you could just go back to the good 579 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: old days where you know, teams don't have to inform 580 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: you when they do it, and you could just keep 581 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: the surprise kick. I mean, the kickoff has worked, it's 582 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: improved things, it's made that play interesting again. Just go 583 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: back and let's let's redo the kick or the on 584 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: side kick and just make it like it was in 585 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: the good old days. Problem solved, easy, Pasy know what 586 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: the hang up is? 587 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it works that way. Yeah, like they've changed the 588 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: kickoff role. They're good with where it's at. But I mean, 589 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how. I'm not sure how with the 590 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: current structure, how they're going to do it to bring 591 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: back the on side kicked the way it used to 592 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: be without having to tell the other team. 593 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: What you're doing. 594 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: There's too many restrictions around the formation, how many guys 595 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 4: to one side. There's you know, obviously the ability to 596 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: do it throughout the game now, but they have to 597 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: tell the other team they're doing it because of how 598 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 4: they do the normal kickoff configuration. 599 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: So I know they're going to try. 600 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 4: To go to like a fourth and fifteen, fourth and 601 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 4: twenty type play. But I mean, here's the thing that 602 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 4: I think most fans would agree with, Like, we hate 603 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 4: when officiating gets involved. And my concern for a fourth 604 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 4: and fifteen, fourth and twenty play is is there will 605 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: be scenarios where there's DPI or you know, holding or 606 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: whatever the case is, and the game is going to 607 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 4: come down to a call that's going to allow that 608 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: team to get back into it. And you could say, well, 609 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: that could happen at any point during the fourth quarter. Yeah, 610 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: but the difference is, like it just it makes it 611 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: more likely than not that you're putting the officials in 612 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 4: that position, and it's different when it comes down to 613 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: it during a natural course of the game like this. 614 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: To me, it's a bad spot to be in. I've 615 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: said it before. 616 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: They could have just moved the kickoff back if they 617 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 4: really wanted to try to get more returns, if that 618 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: was the ultimate goal, instead of the gimmick they've come 619 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: up with. 620 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: Now. 621 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Was there's Florida State that had the PI called on 622 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the Hail Mary in college football? 623 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: I think I think so, yeah, because they don't someone 624 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: did this. 625 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: They don't call that a lot, and I wonder if 626 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: they would kind of keep the flag in the pocket. 627 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: More so if they go to the fourth and fifteen, 628 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: fourth and twenty to try to I don't. 629 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: I think Dean would tell you. 630 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 4: They don't tell them to officiate the game any different 631 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 4: depending on the situation. So I just, again, this whole kickoff, 632 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: the idea was making a meaningful play, get more returns, 633 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: limit the incidents of head injuries. 634 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 3: Which they've done. They've done that, Yeah, they've done. 635 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 4: And ultimately the starting field position has increased, which has 636 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 4: led to more points, which is good for the league, 637 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: even though I'd argue it's it's not great for defenses 638 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 4: and it feels more one sided. But again, moving the 639 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: kickoff back and then still maintaining what we had prior, 640 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: I would have accomplished most of those things, with the 641 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: exception of obviously the head injuries, and that's something that 642 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: it's just it's hard to be able to completely remove 643 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: that from the game. And you're going to have that 644 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 4: regardless even in its current structure. You know, you're still 645 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: seeing it from time to time. So I just the 646 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: NFL has unfortunately put themselves in this position because of 647 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 4: how they've manipulated the kickoff to look entirely different than 648 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: what we've had in the past, and you know, I'm 649 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: not sure there's an easy solution to figure out how 650 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: to get the on side kick back involved. 651 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I just I look at the 652 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: on side kick. It could be you so effectively in 653 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: a few different different instances, and to limit that or 654 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 3: to kind of in a way eliminated, so to speak, 655 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: like I always felt, I mean, think about it. We 656 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: experienced it against UCLA a surprise on side when I 657 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: was when I was a head coach, I surprised onside 658 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 3: to the point of where it wasn't even a surprise anymore. 659 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: Like I used it quite a bit. And then the 660 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: reason why is I had nineteen players and three of 661 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: them were football players, and so I wasn't going to 662 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: run those guys down the field the whole entire time. 663 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: And depending on how good my kicker could kick one, 664 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 3: it would ensure tackle. 665 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 2: Too. 666 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: There'd be an actual possibility of recovering the kickoff. Now, granted, 667 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: that's high school level, and that's for different reasons, but 668 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: doesn't matter in terms of if your idea of trying to, 669 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: you know, change the momentum of of a game, if 670 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: you're gutsy enough to make a call like an on 671 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 3: side kick, anything that took away from that aspect of 672 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 3: the special teams play. I think, like just like having 673 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: the ability to run a fake punt or a fake 674 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 3: field goal, whatever it may be, to lessen the opportunity 675 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: to use an on side kick, because now you know 676 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: when an on side kick is coming. I just you know, 677 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 3: it seems strange, it seems out of place, but there's 678 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: been a lot of rule changes through the years, and 679 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 3: just like anything else, people complain about it. Some people say, oh, 680 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: it's good for the game. Everybody's be somebody who's indifferent, 681 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 3: and then you get used to it and then it's 682 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 3: a part of the game. 683 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 684 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean, but in saying that, you know, the other 685 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: thing of note that Troy Vincent had to say was 686 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: the tush push. You know that it's not really widely 687 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: discussed at league headquarters, but did acknowledge that. You know, 688 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: it's it remains a goal play to officiate. And it 689 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: just feels like the more we hear about it week 690 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: by week, the more likely this thing's going to be 691 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: gone next year. Like they digit't thing, so I think 692 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: it's out next year. 693 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: I don't think. Here's what I don't get about that. 694 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: They literally did away with the rule for pushing a 695 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: runner because it was too difficult to officiate. So you 696 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: have that element of it, and now we're saying like, oh, well, 697 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 4: now pushing the run is too difficult to officiate. It's like, well, dude, 698 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 4: like pick your battle, like we have so many cameras, now, 699 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: just make it reviewable. 700 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: Is it that hard to be able to see? 701 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean New York's already jumping in anyway on some 702 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: of these calls and some of these reviews to try 703 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 4: to get the right call. I don't understand why they 704 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: don't figure this out and either let it happen or 705 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 4: get rid of it entirely and say you can't aid 706 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: the runner because you can't pull the runner. I mean, 707 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 4: we saw that with the forty nine ers this past week. 708 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: Yet that they allowed to happen, and now we're having 709 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: issues with figuring out how to officiate the push and 710 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: the outside that comes with it and everything else. 711 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, come on, we have It's like we're 712 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: it's like we're living in. 713 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: An air with all this technology and we're leaving it 714 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 4: on the sidelines, like we can use this to officiate 715 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: this stuff better. It's crazy how archaic the NFL still 716 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: remains with officiating. It just it doesn't make any sense. 717 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: And I would say this, if you're going to allow 718 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: them to push the runner, allow them to pull the runner, 719 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: like allow it to be like you're either all in 720 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: or all out on aiding the runner. 721 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: In whatever capacity, pushing, pull on whatever. 722 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 7: Like. 723 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 4: That's what was kind of frustrating too, is to listen 724 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 4: to I think it was Terry McCauley who's. 725 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: Saying, like, yeah, they probably should. 726 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 4: Have gotten called for a penalty there and been pulling 727 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: the runner, helping that Africa out. 728 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: They you know you phrased it, but well, why is 729 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: that still a thing. 730 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: It's like, if you're allowing to push them as we're 731 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: allowed to pull them, and if you want to get 732 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 4: rid of the tousch push, then get. 733 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: Rid of all of it. 734 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like this offseason it's not going anywhere. No, No, 735 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 3: you can't make that strong statement if you want it's 736 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: not going anywhere. This was the year for it to 737 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: be removed. They didn't remove it. It's not you're not 738 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 3: going to get more information this year that you didn't 739 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: get last year. That's going to make it a different 740 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: play than what it has been, and like you said, 741 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 3: the idea that guys are getting pushed in other plays 742 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 3: outside of it, like that, the concept of it is 743 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: still the same even though the play it's it's not 744 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: a play per se. It happens during the play. But nonetheless, 745 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 3: you should not be allowed to push a player. You 746 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: should not be able to aid a runner in for 747 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 3: we're establishing more forward progress. It just doesn't That doesn't 748 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: make sense to me. So how do you get rid 749 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: of the push push if you're not getting rid of 750 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: them doing pushing in other aspects of the game. 751 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: It is two Pros and a cup of Joe here 752 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next, we were 753 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: going to close up shop on this Wednesday morning with 754 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: another edition of the Leftovers right here on FSR. But 755 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: at the home Depot. Makita tools are built for the 756 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: pros who show up early with tools built to last 757 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: job after your job, year after year, when the job 758 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: calls for the best call on Makita available at the 759 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: home depot, how pros get more done. I went to 760 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: my local home depot to pick up some Makita products. 761 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: We're redoing some stuff in the backyard. There's a lot 762 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: going on. We're trying to get all this stuff done 763 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: before the rains start to come through, start to cause 764 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: any more damage. And so I'm looking around, I'm like, 765 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: you know what, I could use a circular saw, and 766 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: I bring that up to tell you this. We had 767 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: a circular saw that my dad bought, a Makita circular 768 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: saw and it's been in the family. I'm not kidding 769 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 1: for thirty plus years. My brother still uses it. In fact, 770 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: he has it he's doing work at his home that 771 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: he just bought recently and still uses it three plus decades. 772 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: Marriages don't last so long. Belichick and Brady didn't last 773 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: that long. But a Makita circular saw, and that's evidence 774 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: of it. And we've got the proof it's still working 775 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: and still running. 776 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: And Makita tools from the home. 777 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: Depot perform at the highest level on every job without compromise. 778 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: Makita tools deliver the power, performance, and durability to get 779 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: the job done, whether you're a weekend doer or a 780 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: season pro, whatever you're working on. Mkeitah offers a best 781 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: in class solution to help power the way through your project. 782 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: With over forty years of cordless innovation under their belts, 783 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Makita is known as the Cordless Experts. They offer three 784 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: different cordless platforms, boasting a range of products to suit 785 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: your needs and projects. Makita tools are built with precision 786 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: without shortcuts. Designed for the toughest jobs. It's the choice 787 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: for pros when the job calls for the best call on. 788 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: Mikita built to be the best available at the home 789 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: depot help pros get more done. 790 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 791 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and 792 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 793 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 794 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 795 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air. 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Here's the 806 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 2: left over all. 807 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 3: Right, Ray Ray, all right. 808 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 9: You guys think this is fast, You know it was 809 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 9: faster the people who looted the Louver. The Louver is 810 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 9: reopening today for the first time since Sunday, when multitude 811 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 9: of thieves broke in. They took seven minutes and left 812 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 9: with numerous amounts of jewels. 813 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 3: The Louver. 814 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 9: Yeah over in France, says world. 815 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: Story in Paris, Dude, what is the louver? 816 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 9: It's where the Mona. Lisa is. 817 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 2: More of a football guy, not really into art, but. 818 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, well my football story would take more than 819 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 9: thirty seconds, so this is what you get. 820 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: She's a man eater. 821 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, why we didn't take only one second? 822 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 2: Why are we so late, Reina, I don't know. 823 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 3: Oh, you know, just truer late. 824 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: Some animals super late.