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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, February the eighth. I am joined by
Speaker 1: Amy Wells. My name is Mike Keith. Amy. How are
Speaker 1: you doing on this Wednesday? Well, I'm splendid, Mike Keith.
Speaker 1: How are you well? I'm fine. People are probably saying,
Speaker 1: didn't you do an OTP yesterday? And the answer is yes,
Speaker 1: we just can't get enough of us. Though well it's
Speaker 1: not exactly how it all went down, just to share
Speaker 1: with the ot people. By the way, great response to
Speaker 1: the gathering of the ot people. I think nobody likes that.
Speaker 1: I think they are clamoring for it. So we came
Speaker 1: in yesterday with our great friend, the ever reliable Rhett Brian,
Speaker 1: and we recorded the OTP on Tuesday ten thirty. So
Speaker 1: two o'clock I'm away from the office. I get a
Speaker 1: text from you and you said Rabel is talking at
Speaker 1: four thirty. Immediately I get a pit in my stomach
Speaker 1: because I know that means there is news coming, and
Speaker 1: sure enough he announces major changes in the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: particularly the offensive coaching staff. So this is sort of
Speaker 1: an addendum to the February seven OTP. Right, I think
Speaker 1: that's a fair way to put it. That's actually what happened,
Speaker 1: and it's like a little bonus bonus footage on a DVD.
Speaker 1: So when the release came out, I've got to admit
Speaker 1: I was a little bit in. It was a lot,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot to take in. I
Speaker 1: don't think that Tim Kelly to offensive coordinator was a surprise.
Speaker 1: I always thought he was sort of the leader in
Speaker 1: quite the literal clubhouse, because he certainly has a relationship
Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel has tremendous respect for Bill O'Brien.
Speaker 1: He is a protege of Bill O'Brien, one of the
Speaker 1: more adaptable offensive coaches. There is something that Mike Vrabel
Speaker 1: very much wants to be with his offense. He wants
Speaker 1: to be more adaptable. So that wasn't a shock. But
Speaker 1: all the other moves on the offense, my goodness, never
Speaker 1: saw that coming. Yeah, it was. I was surprised by
Speaker 1: the volume of moves, not necessarily what they were when
Speaker 1: we actually dug into it. But I wasn't expecting so
Speaker 1: much shuffling of the deck, I suppose. M Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what really caught me off guard. The only guy that
Speaker 1: really stays in his primary role on offense is Rob Moore,
Speaker 1: who will return for his sixth year as the wide
Speaker 1: receiver's coach. Jason Hoteling is the new offensive line coach.
Speaker 1: He's been on staff for two years. Mike Sullivan stays
Speaker 1: in his role as assistant offensive line coach. Selly's been
Speaker 1: here for ten years and very part of making the
Speaker 1: machine run. Tony Doo's moving from running backs to tight
Speaker 1: ends is very significant. Amy, Yes, I think, go ahead. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different aspects to it.
Speaker 1: I think that's something that you and I both did
Speaker 1: not expect. But when Mike Vrabel addressed that and a
Speaker 1: bunch of other moves, he said that a lot of
Speaker 1: what motivated some of the changes with staff that we're
Speaker 1: already part of the team was that he was looking
Speaker 1: for opportunities to give people a chance to do some
Speaker 1: career advancing. And Mike, you and I have talked about
Speaker 1: it before on the OTP, the tight ends position and
Speaker 1: the coach of the tight ends. Is involved in every
Speaker 1: aspect of the offense, rarely not a part that they
Speaker 1: don't touch, and so really might have been a career opportunity.
Speaker 1: The only staff member who has involved deeply in both
Speaker 1: the run game play a sort of development game planning,
Speaker 1: and also the pass game planning. And so they are
Speaker 1: going to use Tony, and Tony's a really good coach,
Speaker 1: I mean, outstanding coach. I'm sure Derek Henry's not thrilled
Speaker 1: because he's certainly a big advocate of Tony, but in
Speaker 1: terms of responsibility, it's a bigger job, and so they
Speaker 1: are taking advantage of not only Tony's coaching ability but
Speaker 1: his brain. He's a smart guy and happy that he'll
Speaker 1: get that opportunity. Titans still looking for a running back
Speaker 1: coach at this point. The outside influence that comes in
Speaker 1: is Charles London, and Charles London is going to be
Speaker 1: the past game coordinator and the quarterbacks coach. We knew
Speaker 1: Charles London here twelve years ago. He was on Mike
Speaker 1: Munchak's first staff for a year, was an offensive assistant.
Speaker 1: Really smart guy. You could tell he was going places.
Speaker 1: He too, is a Bill O'Brien protege Penn State with
Speaker 1: ob and then the Houston Texans with Bill O'Brien. So
Speaker 1: there's another tie end. But he's been other places. He
Speaker 1: joins from the Atlanta Falcons, and so that is a
Speaker 1: guy that you know. I know Arthur Smith thinks the
Speaker 1: world of his story. Though, Amy is really kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Charles London is forty eight years old, so yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not like he's a thirty five year old coach. I
Speaker 1: mean he's a guy who's been added Awhile he played
Speaker 1: at Duke in two thousand and three, he was working
Speaker 1: in event management. He was the director of stadium operations
Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium. That's what he had learned to do
Speaker 1: at Duke. He's twenty eight years old, and he says,
Speaker 1: all this is great. I enjoy working for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I like game day. But he said, I want to coach,
Speaker 1: and so he called Ted Roof, who was the head
Speaker 1: coach at Duke prior to David Cutcliffe taking that job,
Speaker 1: and he became a graduate assistant. And he has kind
Speaker 1: of worked his way through the ranks in different ways.
Speaker 1: He's coach running backs. He's been with the Bears, he
Speaker 1: has been with the Texans, he's been at Penn State,
Speaker 1: he's been with the Falcons. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: guy who interviewed for the Titans offensive coordinator position. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of people think that he is one
Speaker 1: of those up and comers, even though he's not. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly's not even thirty seven yet. Tim Kelly won't
Speaker 1: be thirty seven until later this year, so agewise, he's
Speaker 1: a little older, but he is still incredibly well regarded.
Speaker 1: As you tell that story, the only thing I could
Speaker 1: think of was that sounds like a Mic Varabel guy
Speaker 1: through and through, someone who decided this is what they're
Speaker 1: going to do and was able to make that pivot
Speaker 1: in their career. And it is working the steps. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no way to get to where you want to
Speaker 1: go in coaching without going through every single step, and
Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like he's doing. And I'm excited
Speaker 1: to have him as part of the team with Tim
Speaker 1: Kelly as the offensive coordinator. Now there are many saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you're hiring someone from in house, Well, I mean he
Speaker 1: was in house for a year. Mike Vrabel is certainly
Speaker 1: very familiar with him, right and there were reports that
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel tried to hire him when he first got
Speaker 1: the job, and so this is obviously a guy that
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel thinks a lot of. But as you and
Speaker 1: I watched practice in twenty twenty two, I would describe
Speaker 1: his role on the field much like Jim Schwartz in
Speaker 1: that he was an eye in the sky. He was
Speaker 1: an overseer. He clearly was not coordinating the offense the
Speaker 1: same way Jim wasn't coordinating the defense. Right. I think
Speaker 1: that's a great way to describe it. He was the
Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet view. He was the guy that oversaw everything,
Speaker 1: and so he was able to provide notes. He was
Speaker 1: able to provide some outside analysis because sometimes, especially with
Speaker 1: position coaches, you're so keyed in on your group. You
Speaker 1: need someone to kind of be able to zoom out
Speaker 1: and see the big picture. So I think that what
Speaker 1: this is going to provide having him as the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: beyond the fact that he's a familiar face and all
Speaker 1: of those things, he has a really good idea. Better
Speaker 1: than a lot of people who may have been more
Speaker 1: zoomed in on one specific area. He has a really
Speaker 1: good idea of this offense as a whole, what it
Speaker 1: does well and what it maybe needs to improve upon.
Speaker 1: I would think that better than anybody else, he has
Speaker 1: seen the full scope of what the Tennessee Titans have currently,
Speaker 1: and I think that's incredibly valuable. I think there's going
Speaker 1: to be a lot of consistency when it comes to
Speaker 1: obviously things like messaging and scheme and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: But beyond that, I think he just has such a
Speaker 1: good perspective. Now he's going to be able to dive
Speaker 1: in and obviously be a lot more hands on, but
Speaker 1: be able to take some of that wide view knowledge
Speaker 1: and now focus it in a little bit more so
Speaker 1: that fair to say. I think it's fair to say.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also fair to say we haven't
Speaker 1: seen his offense yet. No, absolutely not. That was what
Speaker 1: they were doing last year. That was something different. I
Speaker 1: think we are going to see different aspects to what
Speaker 1: he does. And I go with the fact, and I
Speaker 1: keep using the word adaptable because of the whole Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien thing, and that was always so important, and you
Speaker 1: know that's how Rabel's defenses are too. They are adaptable.
Speaker 1: He wants the same thing with an offense if you
Speaker 1: need to throw it fifty times, you have the ability
Speaker 1: to do that successfully. If you need to run it
Speaker 1: fifty times, you have the ability to do that successfully.
Speaker 1: You're not just a one trick pony married to one thing.
Speaker 1: You can use different personnel groupings and have different looks
Speaker 1: at different times based on the opponent and the overall situation.
Speaker 1: So here's what I did, Amy, I pulled the six
Speaker 1: games where he was the Texans offensive coordinator against the Titans.
Speaker 1: Of course you did. Of course I did. So there
Speaker 1: are two outliers that I'm going to drop out. Two thousand, nineteen,
Speaker 1: Week seventeen. The Texans have already clenched the AFC South,
Speaker 1: so they sit all of their starters. Deshaun Watson doesn't play.
Speaker 1: A J McCarron is Houston's quarterback in a thirty five
Speaker 1: to fourteen loss. Not fair to judge him calling plays
Speaker 1: in that game. Twenty twenty one, Week eleven at Nissan Stadium.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is the quarterback for the Texans. The Texans
Speaker 1: the Titans played awful awful turn the ball over five
Speaker 1: times and had no takeaways, so the Titans are minus
Speaker 1: five in turnover ratio. The Texans get the lead, and
Speaker 1: because the Titans can't get out of their own way,
Speaker 1: they just had a bad day. Then all they did
Speaker 1: was stalled to run out the clock. They win twenty
Speaker 1: two to thirteen. They gain one hundred and ninety yards,
Speaker 1: but they make no mistakes. And we've seen the Titans
Speaker 1: win games like that before where the other team has
Speaker 1: turned the ball over so much that offensively, you're just saying,
Speaker 1: don't make a mistake or you'll lose the game. So
Speaker 1: I threw those two out. I give you these four games.
Speaker 1: Week fifteen, Houston wins at Nashville twenty four twenty one.
Speaker 1: They gained three hundred and seventy four yards. Twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Week six, Tennessee wins forty two thirty six in overtime,
Speaker 1: Texans gained four hundred and twelve yards. Week seventeen, twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: Titans win forty one to thirty eight in Houston. Texans
Speaker 1: gained four hundred fifty seven yards. In both twenty twenty games,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson threw for over three hundred yards, and then
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, Week eighteen, Davis Mills throw for
Speaker 1: three hundred one yards. The Texans actually gained two eighty
Speaker 1: one in the second half, score on all four possessions,
Speaker 1: and lose to the Titans twenty eight twenty five in
Speaker 1: a game that the Titans led twenty one to nothing
Speaker 1: at halftime. So in those four games, Houston averaged right
Speaker 1: at four hundred yards and thirty one points against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: It's not bad. Well, I've always been very impressed with him,
Speaker 1: and I never wanted to go against him because he
Speaker 1: always had when it counted, He always had something for us.
Speaker 1: We never put the kaibash on him at any point.
Speaker 1: And even if his team had a bad first half
Speaker 1: like they did in the season finale in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: he figured out something in the second half of the
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and you know, if Ryan Tannehill doesn't drop
Speaker 1: a guy off his back and complete a long past
Speaker 1: to Nick Westbrook Akeene, the Titans lose that game. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think, well, looking at all of that, it's that
Speaker 1: was a good exercise. Mike Keith. I'm glad you did that.
Speaker 1: It just goes to show you that that is more
Speaker 1: of exactly what Mike Rabel's looking for on this offense,
Speaker 1: which is someone who's able to make adjustments in game.
Speaker 1: Who's able to come up with something that'll work and
Speaker 1: have that versatility no matter the circumstances. But listen too,
Speaker 1: when you think about this Amy, you think about he
Speaker 1: was coaching for Bill O'Brien as the head coach, and
Speaker 1: then Bill O'Brien got fired. He was coaching for Romeo
Speaker 1: Cornelle as the head coach, and he was coaching for
Speaker 1: David Culley as the head coach. The quarterbacks again, obviously
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson stands out right, but Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills,
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron. I mean, he's worked with all different sorts
Speaker 1: of talents and heaven, Brandon Cooks is good. But I
Speaker 1: mean they didn't have a lot of running backs at
Speaker 1: that point. They had nothing to play for in the
Speaker 1: last two games of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: and still were able to, you know, go out and
Speaker 1: make it very respectable showings. I think he's good coach,
Speaker 1: I really do. So he's got his group together on
Speaker 1: offense with Charles London. Pat O'Hara becomes the past game analyst.
Speaker 1: The run game analyst is Luke Steckel, who interviewed for
Speaker 1: the Chargers offensive coordinator job very smart guy in his
Speaker 1: own right. So that's the offense. I'm still surprised. I
Speaker 1: still did not expect Vaybel to kind of start all
Speaker 1: over with it, whether it be inside guys or outside
Speaker 1: guys or whatever, to kind of jumble it up and say,
Speaker 1: we've got to do something different. We've got to have
Speaker 1: a different look in so many different ways. We've got
Speaker 1: to use the brains in different ways, we've got to
Speaker 1: have the collaboration in different ways. It surprised me, but
Speaker 1: as you look at who these guys are, with their
Speaker 1: backgrounds and what they've done. Tony Dooze's coach tight ends before.
Speaker 1: Hoteiling has been a head coach before, he's a teacher
Speaker 1: in the offensive line. You're gonna go with a new
Speaker 1: message right now because you're obviously gonna have several new
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, whether they be veterans or they're drafted players.
Speaker 1: Kind of fits it all together. It makes more and
Speaker 1: more sense as you delve. Yeah, and after hearing Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel discuss it, I totally wasn't surprised at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: he flat out said, we have to do some things
Speaker 1: different on the offensive side of the ball. The offense
Speaker 1: is not a disaster, but there are definitely obviously changes
Speaker 1: that need to be made. He's shaking some things up.
Speaker 1: He's kind of turning the picture upside down, you know how. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: especially in like art class, they tell you to turn
Speaker 1: it upside down. If you were stuck, turn it upside down.
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can do, See if we can
Speaker 1: shake some new things out of this tree and continue forward.
Speaker 1: I think that's what Mike Brabele's doing, and he's trying
Speaker 1: to put people in the best places to succeed for
Speaker 1: their own right and also in the best place for
Speaker 1: this offense to succeed. Before we go to defense, want
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Speaker 1: Duncan terms applied all right. On defense, not nearly as
Speaker 1: many changes. No, Shane Bowen is still the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Scott Booker is still the safety coach. The inside linebacker
Speaker 1: coaches are still Bobby King and Zach Kerr. The defensive
Speaker 1: line coaches are still Terrell Williams and Clinton McMillan. The
Speaker 1: may outside linebacker coach is Ryan Crowe, who's now in
Speaker 1: his sixth year on the staff. But here's where the
Speaker 1: additions come in. Let's start with his assistant with the
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, Laurie Locus. She comes from Tampa where she
Speaker 1: had spent three seasons, won a Super Bowl. Before that,
Speaker 1: she had interned with the Baltimore Ravens. Before that, she
Speaker 1: had coached in the AAF. But here's what I did
Speaker 1: not know about her. Laurie Locus is almost fifty nine
Speaker 1: years old. Really, yes, whoa And I mean she paid
Speaker 1: some due. She went to Temple where she met Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians one time. She's a Steeler fan. She got married,
Speaker 1: had two kids, and the two kids are now late twenties.
Speaker 1: Both got a divorce, and she decided she wanted to
Speaker 1: play football at the age of forty. So she starts
Speaker 1: playing semi pro women's football and gets hurt and so
Speaker 1: that ends her playing career. So she goes in to coaching,
Speaker 1: and I mean it's really a fascinating story how she
Speaker 1: worked her way up connected She was a semi pro
Speaker 1: defensive lineman with the Central pen Vipers. Mentioned that then
Speaker 1: she gets hurt. Her old high school hires her as
Speaker 1: an assistant coach. In two thousand and nine, she becomes
Speaker 1: an assistant with the Central Pen Piranha, a men's semi
Speaker 1: pro team. She volunteered at All Star showcases for Division
Speaker 1: two and Division three. She went anywhere she could go.
Speaker 1: She drove to Indiana Apolis in twenty seventeen at the
Speaker 1: Combine where they did a women's Careers in Football form.
Speaker 1: She did it in twenty eighteen. She tried to get
Speaker 1: the Bill Walsh Fellowship in twenty seventeen, didn't get it,
Speaker 1: got it in twenty eighteen. And so she was a
Speaker 1: defensive line assistant with the Ravens, and she bonded with
Speaker 1: the likes of Terrell Suggs, Michael Pierce, and Brandon Williams,
Speaker 1: all of whom felt like she knows her stuff. She
Speaker 1: helped me with technique. I mean they all these guys
Speaker 1: have come out on her behalf saying this. So she's
Speaker 1: coaching at AAF she has a chance to meet Bruce Arians,
Speaker 1: who earlier in his life had encountered a female receivers
Speaker 1: coach at a junior college in Mississippi, and always kept
Speaker 1: that in the back of his mind, and he said,
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. If you can coach,
Speaker 1: you can coach. And so Bruce are hires her and
Speaker 1: she ends up there for three years, wins a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl ring, and now she's on the way to help
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. So that's who Laurie Locus is. She
Speaker 1: has put in her time, she has earned her stripes.
Speaker 1: And the players with whom she has worked the Adamican
Speaker 1: sues and I mean we're talking amy. Those guys don't play.
Speaker 1: Uh no, those are real football players. Yes, but you
Speaker 1: know they say, hey, she knows her stuff, and so
Speaker 1: there you go the stamp of approval as she joins
Speaker 1: Ryan Crowe coaching the outside linebackers for the Titans. You
Speaker 1: want to know something that's kind of funny about Laura Locusum.
Speaker 1: I have a wall in my house where I put
Speaker 1: sticky notes when I have ideas of people that I
Speaker 1: want to interview for the OTP various things. If something
Speaker 1: pops in my head, I put a sticky note on
Speaker 1: the wall. I have had a sticky note on the
Speaker 1: wall with her name on it since twenty nineteen on
Speaker 1: the wall in my home. So I think that's going
Speaker 1: to happen. Isn't that crazy? What this says to me
Speaker 1: is if I leave my sticky notes long enough, these
Speaker 1: people will just come to me. There you go, They'll
Speaker 1: all join the Titans. But no, that's how long I've
Speaker 1: known about her and just her presence in football. And
Speaker 1: I mean it's literally been on my wall for years
Speaker 1: that I have wanted to do an interview with her
Speaker 1: for the ot people. So personally, I am very excited
Speaker 1: because I've been a fan of her story for a while.
Speaker 1: The Titans have women working in the personnel and scouting
Speaker 1: department now, correct, and they have people doing analysis on
Speaker 1: certain things that are both male and female. So you
Speaker 1: will go to practice and you will see females on
Speaker 1: the field working. Now you're going to see one specifically
Speaker 1: on the field helping coach the OLBS. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Now, the question is are we
Speaker 1: going to see Chris Harris coached the defensive pass game
Speaker 1: as the coordinator and the cornerbacks. Former NFL player played
Speaker 1: with multiple teams, he was a safety. He's been coaching
Speaker 1: in the league. The last three years with Washington, they've
Speaker 1: had some of the best secondaries in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: the Titans announced Chris Harris was hired as the defensive
Speaker 1: pass game coordinator and the cornerback coach yesterday, but he
Speaker 1: has interviewed for the Houston Texans defensive coordinator's job, So
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, and probably about the minute we
Speaker 1: post this, that will be resolved one way or the other.
Speaker 1: That's the way this seems to be working this week.
Speaker 1: But Chris is working with Scott Booker, and Scott has
Speaker 1: coached the safeties. He's worked his way up from a
Speaker 1: defensive assistant. Impressive guy. Rabels said it was hard to
Speaker 1: not give him the secondary that he thinks he is
Speaker 1: that close to ready, But the chance to get Chris
Speaker 1: Harris was just over and above because of what he's
Speaker 1: done with the corners and what he's done with the
Speaker 1: secondary in Washington. Overall, well, we will see. Stay tuned
Speaker 1: on that one, I guess well. The other newcomer to
Speaker 1: the staff is the defensive quality control coach, Justin Hamilton,
Speaker 1: And if you follow Virginia Tech football, you know they
Speaker 1: have a legendary defensive coordinator by the name of Bud Foster.
Speaker 1: Bud Foster retired and the person who was hired to
Speaker 1: replace him was Justin Hamilton. Justin Hamilton started his coaching
Speaker 1: career at Grace Christian Academy in two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: when he finished playing in the NFL. He spent a
Speaker 1: couple of years in the NFL, parts of two seasons
Speaker 1: with Cleveland and Washington, So he goes to Grace Christian
Speaker 1: in Knoxville gets his coaching career started with a goal
Speaker 1: of eventually getting to his alma mater, Virginia Tech, and maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe having a chance to be the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He was the defensive coordinator at in Aia, University of
Speaker 1: Virginia's College at Wise, then Hokey coach Justin Fuente offered
Speaker 1: him a job as the director of player development. He
Speaker 1: was then moved on to the staff as he was
Speaker 1: the safety's coach, and then in twenty twenty he became
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. When Justin Fuente lost his job at
Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty one, Justin Hamilton decided he
Speaker 1: was going to take a year off. So here's the
Speaker 1: backstory to this. His wife is from East Tennessee, and
Speaker 1: so he spent a good bit of this past fall
Speaker 1: in East Tennessee. He actually was on a TV show
Speaker 1: run by a great friend of mine by the name
Speaker 1: of John Pennington from way back. John and I used
Speaker 1: to do a TV show in nineteen ninety six together.
Speaker 1: And his whole thing amy is he said, I want
Speaker 1: to get back into coaching, but I want to go
Speaker 1: to the pros. So that's what he's doing. He is
Speaker 1: the defensive quality control coach and he will work in
Speaker 1: the secondary. Now, do you have anything to add to
Speaker 1: that or do you want me to keep going? No,
Speaker 1: I want you to keep going. It's kind of an
Speaker 1: interesting story, isn't it. Yeah, I've been pulled into this story.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So he has a couple of famous former
Speaker 1: pupils from Virginia Tech. Divine Diablow, the really big safety
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, kind of a linebacker safety hybrid. He's
Speaker 1: a big dude, yes, And Caleb Farley's good and so
Speaker 1: as Caleb Farley rich And I don't think they hired
Speaker 1: him with the Titans for this reason. I think this
Speaker 1: is just kind of what maybe a bonus in all
Speaker 1: of this is Caleb's got some things he's got to
Speaker 1: do physically to get well, for sure, but there's also
Speaker 1: a confidence factor, right, and you wonder if this person
Speaker 1: who goes back so far with him can bolster him
Speaker 1: to where maybe, just maybe we can see the best
Speaker 1: of Caleb Farley whatever that's going to be in the NFL,
Speaker 1: which Amy, we have not seen as of yet. No,
Speaker 1: we haven't. But this is kind of an exciting development
Speaker 1: when you think about him and being able to maybe
Speaker 1: jump start what it is that he might need in
Speaker 1: terms of preparation and really getting the best out of him,
Speaker 1: like you said, especially throughout the off season as he's
Speaker 1: getting ready for training, camping beyond. So here's the common
Speaker 1: thread we're sort of seeing in all of this, And
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm missing anything else. Hoteiling in the
Speaker 1: offensive line teacher, instructor, communicator that guys really like to
Speaker 1: work with as they work on their craft. Tony doos
Speaker 1: We know? Is that too, right, Rob Moore? Is that
Speaker 1: we know he's that kind of guy. Charles London doesn't
Speaker 1: start his coaching career till he's twenty eight, has coached
Speaker 1: multiple positions, has been with Tim Kelly before. That factors
Speaker 1: into that as well. Pat O'Hara and Luke Steckel certainly
Speaker 1: have those abilities themselves. And then on defense, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Lori locus technique issues, being able to work on
Speaker 1: specific fundamentals. And you find coaches in a variety of
Speaker 1: sports when they come to sports later, they learned how
Speaker 1: to do it the right way, and so they can
Speaker 1: teach it the right way because they've never gotten the
Speaker 1: bad habits when they were eight years old or twelve
Speaker 1: years old or whatever. Just throwing that out there. Justin Hay,
Speaker 1: Justin Hamilton is clearly a teacher, and then Chris Harris
Speaker 1: seems to have that about him, teaching those corners in
Speaker 1: Washington to play incredibly physical and to not be afraid.
Speaker 1: That's what we saw in the game in Washington. We
Speaker 1: completed the long pass to Westbrook a keene, but that
Speaker 1: was really more fluky than it was a poor play.
Speaker 1: Everything was hard against those guys that day. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: And I was doing a little work, you know, when
Speaker 1: I was going through some of the Tim Kelly stuff
Speaker 1: with the games that he had coached against us, and
Speaker 1: I went back through and obviously I'm excited about the
Speaker 1: defense because you're gonna have Harold Landry back to go
Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Simmons, and I think having Harold Landry back,
Speaker 1: you know, in twenty one seventy five tackles, twelve sacks,
Speaker 1: fourteen tackles for losses, forty nine quarterback pressures. He also
Speaker 1: plays ninety percent of the snaps, so it's almost like
Speaker 1: having two guys. When you lost Harold Landry, you almost
Speaker 1: lost two guys. And Harold also can drop into coverage.
Speaker 1: Harold can play the run. Harold. There's really not much
Speaker 1: Harold can't do, and that's why he's been I don't
Speaker 1: want to say he's been Chane Bowen's favorite player, but
Speaker 1: it's certainly been close because of the versatility of Harold Landry.
Speaker 1: Having him back will benefit Big Jeff and whomever else
Speaker 1: is up there in the front. The other thing, too,
Speaker 1: amy when it became clear that Roger McCrary was gonna
Speaker 1: win the corner job opposite Christian full time in camp,
Speaker 1: and I think it became clear pretty early in August
Speaker 1: that that was going to happen. We figured that our
Speaker 1: secondary was going to be McCrary and faulting at the corners,
Speaker 1: A Monti Hooker and Kevin Byard at the safety position,
Speaker 1: and then Elijah Molden was going to be the nickel
Speaker 1: and then we were going to have a J. Moore
Speaker 1: to use maybe as the nickel linebacker, maybe as a
Speaker 1: third safety. You know, there were some things they were
Speaker 1: thinking about. Take out the aj More factor because he
Speaker 1: was heard in training camp. Right. How many games those
Speaker 1: five defensive backs started together in twenty twenty two, if any,
Speaker 1: it's not very many. Zero, That's what I thought. They never.
Speaker 1: Bayard played every game, McCrary played every game, but obviously
Speaker 1: Hooker missed time faulton miss time, and Moulden basically didn't play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you could have that group together with Chris Harris,
Speaker 1: with Scott Booker, with Justin Hamilton, that's pretty good. It's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then what happens if Farley gives you something? What
Speaker 1: happens if Trey Avery gives you something? What happens if
Speaker 1: you start to find more of those pieces? I mean,
Speaker 1: suddenly you have the secondary you thought you would have
Speaker 1: last year that you never had together. To all five
Speaker 1: start again. That's like your basketball lineup, your first five
Speaker 1: you put on the floor. Those five did not start altogether.
Speaker 1: One game didn't happen. The only game that Molden started.
Speaker 1: Fulton was not available. Hooker may not have been available either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thinking back to things like that and some of those
Speaker 1: lineup issues, and holy smokes, I mean the season was
Speaker 1: so different than what we expected it to be strictly
Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint. The excitement of the possibilities of
Speaker 1: having some of those personnel groupings that we hoped we
Speaker 1: would have right under some real strong teachers and maybe
Speaker 1: a different philosophy or a different mindset, just little tweaks
Speaker 1: here and there. Oh, the possibilities. And I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know the complete style of what they're going
Speaker 1: to look like on offense. I don't know that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that's going to look like. But I
Speaker 1: do get the idea of what Rabel's philosophy is with
Speaker 1: the adaptability. That's what he wants on offense, that's what
Speaker 1: he wants on defense. And I think you can see
Speaker 1: where he can get with rand Carthon and put together
Speaker 1: a roster that these coaches can mold in that way
Speaker 1: to be more adaptable. That's just as I've played with
Speaker 1: it for literally hours last night and today. That's what
Speaker 1: jumps out to me. Well, I think that's a pretty
Speaker 1: good analysis. I think when we talk about what Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel's looking for in a coach and the way that
Speaker 1: he defines what coaching is, a big part of that
Speaker 1: is teaching, teaching and building relationships. How many times have
Speaker 1: we heard him say just that and inspiring exactly. So
Speaker 1: he has found people who can do that, who are teachers,
Speaker 1: who are good communicators, who are good at building relationships
Speaker 1: with people, can find a way to light your fire
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think I think that we
Speaker 1: are continuing to see Mike Vrabel bring in Mike Vrabel
Speaker 1: type coaches. If it's redundant, but it's it's exciting to see.
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that the players, the
Speaker 1: personnel will respond to that because they seem to respond
Speaker 1: to Mike Vrabel. So getting more people who are of
Speaker 1: a Mike Vrabel mindset can only benefit this team. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully Chris Harris will be here and hopefully the running
Speaker 1: backs coach will be somebody who sort of fits that
Speaker 1: and you and you got to have a feeling he's
Speaker 1: got somebody in mind right this minute, right so because
Speaker 1: that's Rabel, all right. So this is the addendum to
Speaker 1: yesterday's OTP as we discuss the coaching staff here and
Speaker 1: kind of go through and I mean there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot more to discuss. I mean, this is the
Speaker 1: first blush because we are literally recording this twenty four
Speaker 1: hours from the time that we learned of these these changes,
Speaker 1: almost to the minute, almost to the minute. But when
Speaker 1: you when you delve in some things, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get I get what that is, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm coming up with. So we'll see more to come
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