1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: This is the OTP, presented by our great friends at 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans. No matter your life stage, you 3 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: can plan on Farm Bureau Health Plans for great healthcare 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: coverage with a sensible price tag. Visit FBHP dot com. 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, February the eighth. I am joined by 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Amy Wells. My name is Mike Keith. Amy. How are 7 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: you doing on this Wednesday? Well, I'm splendid, Mike Keith. 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: How are you well? I'm fine. People are probably saying, 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: didn't you do an OTP yesterday? And the answer is yes, 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: we just can't get enough of us. Though well it's 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: not exactly how it all went down, just to share 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: with the ot people. By the way, great response to 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the gathering of the ot people. I think nobody likes that. 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: I think they are clamoring for it. So we came 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: in yesterday with our great friend, the ever reliable Rhett Brian, 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: and we recorded the OTP on Tuesday ten thirty. So 17 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: two o'clock I'm away from the office. I get a 18 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: text from you and you said Rabel is talking at 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: four thirty. Immediately I get a pit in my stomach 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: because I know that means there is news coming, and 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: sure enough he announces major changes in the coaching staff, 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: particularly the offensive coaching staff. So this is sort of 23 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: an addendum to the February seven OTP. Right, I think 24 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: that's a fair way to put it. That's actually what happened, 25 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: and it's like a little bonus bonus footage on a DVD. 26 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: So when the release came out, I've got to admit 27 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I was a little bit in. It was a lot, 28 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot to take in. I 29 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: don't think that Tim Kelly to offensive coordinator was a surprise. 30 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I always thought he was sort of the leader in 31 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: quite the literal clubhouse, because he certainly has a relationship 32 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel has tremendous respect for Bill O'Brien. 33 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: He is a protege of Bill O'Brien, one of the 34 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: more adaptable offensive coaches. There is something that Mike Vrabel 35 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: very much wants to be with his offense. He wants 36 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: to be more adaptable. So that wasn't a shock. But 37 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: all the other moves on the offense, my goodness, never 38 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: saw that coming. Yeah, it was. I was surprised by 39 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: the volume of moves, not necessarily what they were when 40 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: we actually dug into it. But I wasn't expecting so 41 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: much shuffling of the deck, I suppose. M Yeah, that's 42 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: what really caught me off guard. The only guy that 43 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: really stays in his primary role on offense is Rob Moore, 44 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: who will return for his sixth year as the wide 45 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: receiver's coach. Jason Hoteling is the new offensive line coach. 46 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: He's been on staff for two years. Mike Sullivan stays 47 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: in his role as assistant offensive line coach. Selly's been 48 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: here for ten years and very part of making the 49 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: machine run. Tony Doo's moving from running backs to tight 50 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: ends is very significant. Amy, Yes, I think, go ahead. Well, 51 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different aspects to it. 52 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I think that's something that you and I both did 53 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: not expect. But when Mike Vrabel addressed that and a 54 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: bunch of other moves, he said that a lot of 55 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: what motivated some of the changes with staff that we're 56 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: already part of the team was that he was looking 57 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: for opportunities to give people a chance to do some 58 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: career advancing. And Mike, you and I have talked about 59 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: it before on the OTP, the tight ends position and 60 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the coach of the tight ends. Is involved in every 61 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: aspect of the offense, rarely not a part that they 62 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: don't touch, and so really might have been a career opportunity. 63 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: The only staff member who has involved deeply in both 64 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: the run game play a sort of development game planning, 65 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: and also the pass game planning. And so they are 66 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: going to use Tony, and Tony's a really good coach, 67 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, outstanding coach. I'm sure Derek Henry's not thrilled 68 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: because he's certainly a big advocate of Tony, but in 69 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: terms of responsibility, it's a bigger job, and so they 70 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of not only Tony's coaching ability but 71 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: his brain. He's a smart guy and happy that he'll 72 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. Titans still looking for a running back 73 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: coach at this point. The outside influence that comes in 74 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: is Charles London, and Charles London is going to be 75 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: the past game coordinator and the quarterbacks coach. We knew 76 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: Charles London here twelve years ago. He was on Mike 77 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: Munchak's first staff for a year, was an offensive assistant. 78 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: Really smart guy. You could tell he was going places. 79 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: He too, is a Bill O'Brien protege Penn State with 80 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: ob and then the Houston Texans with Bill O'Brien. So 81 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: there's another tie end. But he's been other places. He 82 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: joins from the Atlanta Falcons, and so that is a 83 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: guy that you know. I know Arthur Smith thinks the 84 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: world of his story. Though, Amy is really kind of cool. 85 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Charles London is forty eight years old, so yeah, it's 86 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: not like he's a thirty five year old coach. I 87 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: mean he's a guy who's been added Awhile he played 88 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: at Duke in two thousand and three, he was working 89 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: in event management. He was the director of stadium operations 90 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium. That's what he had learned to do 91 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: at Duke. He's twenty eight years old, and he says, 92 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: all this is great. I enjoy working for the Patriots. 93 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: I like game day. But he said, I want to coach, 94 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and so he called Ted Roof, who was the head 95 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: coach at Duke prior to David Cutcliffe taking that job, 96 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: and he became a graduate assistant. And he has kind 97 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: of worked his way through the ranks in different ways. 98 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: He's coach running backs. He's been with the Bears, he 99 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: has been with the Texans, he's been at Penn State, 100 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: he's been with the Falcons. I mean, this is a 101 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: guy who interviewed for the Titans offensive coordinator position. There 102 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: are a lot of people think that he is one 103 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: of those up and comers, even though he's not. I mean, 104 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly's not even thirty seven yet. Tim Kelly won't 105 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: be thirty seven until later this year, so agewise, he's 106 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: a little older, but he is still incredibly well regarded. 107 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: As you tell that story, the only thing I could 108 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: think of was that sounds like a Mic Varabel guy 109 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: through and through, someone who decided this is what they're 110 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: going to do and was able to make that pivot 111 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: in their career. And it is working the steps. You know, 112 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: there's no way to get to where you want to 113 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: go in coaching without going through every single step, and 114 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like he's doing. And I'm excited 115 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: to have him as part of the team with Tim 116 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Kelly as the offensive coordinator. Now there are many saying, oh, 117 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: you're hiring someone from in house, Well, I mean he 118 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: was in house for a year. Mike Vrabel is certainly 119 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: very familiar with him, right and there were reports that 120 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel tried to hire him when he first got 121 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the job, and so this is obviously a guy that 122 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel thinks a lot of. But as you and 123 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I watched practice in twenty twenty two, I would describe 124 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: his role on the field much like Jim Schwartz in 125 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: that he was an eye in the sky. He was 126 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: an overseer. He clearly was not coordinating the offense the 127 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: same way Jim wasn't coordinating the defense. Right. I think 128 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: that's a great way to describe it. He was the 129 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,479 Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet view. He was the guy that oversaw everything, 130 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: and so he was able to provide notes. He was 131 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: able to provide some outside analysis because sometimes, especially with 132 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: position coaches, you're so keyed in on your group. You 133 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: need someone to kind of be able to zoom out 134 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: and see the big picture. So I think that what 135 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: this is going to provide having him as the offensive coordinator, 136 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: beyond the fact that he's a familiar face and all 137 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: of those things, he has a really good idea. Better 138 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: than a lot of people who may have been more 139 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: zoomed in on one specific area. He has a really 140 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: good idea of this offense as a whole, what it 141 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: does well and what it maybe needs to improve upon. 142 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I would think that better than anybody else, he has 143 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: seen the full scope of what the Tennessee Titans have currently, 144 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and I think that's incredibly valuable. I think there's going 145 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: to be a lot of consistency when it comes to 146 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: obviously things like messaging and scheme and that kind of stuff, 147 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: But beyond that, I think he just has such a 148 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: good perspective. Now he's going to be able to dive 149 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: in and obviously be a lot more hands on, but 150 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: be able to take some of that wide view knowledge 151 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: and now focus it in a little bit more so 152 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: that fair to say. I think it's fair to say. 153 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's also fair to say we haven't 154 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: seen his offense yet. No, absolutely not. That was what 155 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: they were doing last year. That was something different. I 156 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: think we are going to see different aspects to what 157 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: he does. And I go with the fact, and I 158 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: keep using the word adaptable because of the whole Bill 159 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: O'Brien thing, and that was always so important, and you 160 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: know that's how Rabel's defenses are too. They are adaptable. 161 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: He wants the same thing with an offense if you 162 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: need to throw it fifty times, you have the ability 163 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: to do that successfully. If you need to run it 164 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: fifty times, you have the ability to do that successfully. 165 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: You're not just a one trick pony married to one thing. 166 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: You can use different personnel groupings and have different looks 167 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,479 Speaker 1: at different times based on the opponent and the overall situation. 168 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: So here's what I did, Amy, I pulled the six 169 00:10:54,160 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: games where he was the Texans offensive coordinator against the Titans. 170 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Of course you did. Of course I did. So there 171 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: are two outliers that I'm going to drop out. Two thousand, nineteen, 172 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: Week seventeen. The Texans have already clenched the AFC South, 173 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: so they sit all of their starters. Deshaun Watson doesn't play. 174 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: A J McCarron is Houston's quarterback in a thirty five 175 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: to fourteen loss. Not fair to judge him calling plays 176 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: in that game. Twenty twenty one, Week eleven at Nissan Stadium. 177 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is the quarterback for the Texans. The Texans 178 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the Titans played awful awful turn the ball over five 179 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: times and had no takeaways, so the Titans are minus 180 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: five in turnover ratio. The Texans get the lead, and 181 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: because the Titans can't get out of their own way, 182 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: they just had a bad day. Then all they did 183 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: was stalled to run out the clock. They win twenty 184 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: two to thirteen. They gain one hundred and ninety yards, 185 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: but they make no mistakes. And we've seen the Titans 186 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: win games like that before where the other team has 187 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: turned the ball over so much that offensively, you're just saying, 188 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: don't make a mistake or you'll lose the game. So 189 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I threw those two out. I give you these four games. 190 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Week fifteen, Houston wins at Nashville twenty four twenty one. 191 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: They gained three hundred and seventy four yards. Twenty twenty, 192 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: Week six, Tennessee wins forty two thirty six in overtime, 193 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Texans gained four hundred and twelve yards. Week seventeen, twenty twenty, 194 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: Titans win forty one to thirty eight in Houston. Texans 195 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: gained four hundred fifty seven yards. In both twenty twenty games, 196 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson threw for over three hundred yards, and then 197 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, Week eighteen, Davis Mills throw for 198 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: three hundred one yards. The Texans actually gained two eighty 199 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: one in the second half, score on all four possessions, 200 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: and lose to the Titans twenty eight twenty five in 201 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: a game that the Titans led twenty one to nothing 202 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: at halftime. So in those four games, Houston averaged right 203 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: at four hundred yards and thirty one points against Tennessee. 204 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: It's not bad. Well, I've always been very impressed with him, 205 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: and I never wanted to go against him because he 206 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: always had when it counted, He always had something for us. 207 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: We never put the kaibash on him at any point. 208 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: And even if his team had a bad first half 209 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: like they did in the season finale in twenty twenty one, 210 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: he figured out something in the second half of the 211 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and you know, if Ryan Tannehill doesn't drop 212 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: a guy off his back and complete a long past 213 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: to Nick Westbrook Akeene, the Titans lose that game. Yeah. Well, 214 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: I think, well, looking at all of that, it's that 215 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: was a good exercise. Mike Keith. I'm glad you did that. 216 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: It just goes to show you that that is more 217 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: of exactly what Mike Rabel's looking for on this offense, 218 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: which is someone who's able to make adjustments in game. 219 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Who's able to come up with something that'll work and 220 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: have that versatility no matter the circumstances. But listen too, 221 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: when you think about this Amy, you think about he 222 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: was coaching for Bill O'Brien as the head coach, and 223 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: then Bill O'Brien got fired. He was coaching for Romeo 224 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: Cornelle as the head coach, and he was coaching for 225 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: David Culley as the head coach. The quarterbacks again, obviously 226 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson stands out right, but Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills, 227 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: AJ McCarron. I mean, he's worked with all different sorts 228 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: of talents and heaven, Brandon Cooks is good. But I 229 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: mean they didn't have a lot of running backs at 230 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that point. They had nothing to play for in the 231 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: last two games of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, 232 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: and still were able to, you know, go out and 233 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: make it very respectable showings. I think he's good coach, 234 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: I really do. So he's got his group together on 235 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: offense with Charles London. Pat O'Hara becomes the past game analyst. 236 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: The run game analyst is Luke Steckel, who interviewed for 237 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers offensive coordinator job very smart guy in his 238 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: own right. So that's the offense. I'm still surprised. I 239 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: still did not expect Vaybel to kind of start all 240 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: over with it, whether it be inside guys or outside 241 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: guys or whatever, to kind of jumble it up and say, 242 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: we've got to do something different. We've got to have 243 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: a different look in so many different ways. We've got 244 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: to use the brains in different ways, we've got to 245 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: have the collaboration in different ways. It surprised me, but 246 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: as you look at who these guys are, with their 247 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: backgrounds and what they've done. Tony Dooze's coach tight ends before. 248 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Hoteiling has been a head coach before, he's a teacher 249 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: in the offensive line. You're gonna go with a new 250 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: message right now because you're obviously gonna have several new 251 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, whether they be veterans or they're drafted players. 252 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Kind of fits it all together. It makes more and 253 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: more sense as you delve. Yeah, and after hearing Mike 254 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Rabel discuss it, I totally wasn't surprised at all. I mean, 255 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: he flat out said, we have to do some things 256 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: different on the offensive side of the ball. The offense 257 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: is not a disaster, but there are definitely obviously changes 258 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: that need to be made. He's shaking some things up. 259 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: He's kind of turning the picture upside down, you know how. Sometimes, 260 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: especially in like art class, they tell you to turn 261 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: it upside down. If you were stuck, turn it upside down. 262 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Let's see what we can do, See if we can 263 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: shake some new things out of this tree and continue forward. 264 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: I think that's what Mike Brabele's doing, and he's trying 265 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: to put people in the best places to succeed for 266 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: their own right and also in the best place for 267 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: this offense to succeed. Before we go to defense, want 268 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: to remind you that this portion of the OTP is 269 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: brought to you by the new Duncan Rewards program. Download 270 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: the app today and start saving and stacking your way 271 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: to the free Duncan. You love Duncan Rewards, Save him, 272 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: stack him, use him how you want. America runs on 273 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: Duncan terms applied all right. On defense, not nearly as 274 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: many changes. No, Shane Bowen is still the defensive coordinator. 275 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Scott Booker is still the safety coach. The inside linebacker 276 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: coaches are still Bobby King and Zach Kerr. The defensive 277 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: line coaches are still Terrell Williams and Clinton McMillan. The 278 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: may outside linebacker coach is Ryan Crowe, who's now in 279 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: his sixth year on the staff. But here's where the 280 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: additions come in. Let's start with his assistant with the 281 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:20,239 Speaker 1: outside linebackers, Laurie Locus. She comes from Tampa where she 282 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: had spent three seasons, won a Super Bowl. Before that, 283 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: she had interned with the Baltimore Ravens. Before that, she 284 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: had coached in the AAF. But here's what I did 285 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: not know about her. Laurie Locus is almost fifty nine 286 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: years old. Really, yes, whoa And I mean she paid 287 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: some due. She went to Temple where she met Bruce 288 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Arians one time. She's a Steeler fan. She got married, 289 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: had two kids, and the two kids are now late twenties. 290 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Both got a divorce, and she decided she wanted to 291 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: play football at the age of forty. So she starts 292 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: playing semi pro women's football and gets hurt and so 293 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: that ends her playing career. So she goes in to coaching, 294 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: and I mean it's really a fascinating story how she 295 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: worked her way up connected She was a semi pro 296 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: defensive lineman with the Central pen Vipers. Mentioned that then 297 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: she gets hurt. Her old high school hires her as 298 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: an assistant coach. In two thousand and nine, she becomes 299 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: an assistant with the Central Pen Piranha, a men's semi 300 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: pro team. She volunteered at All Star showcases for Division 301 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: two and Division three. She went anywhere she could go. 302 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: She drove to Indiana Apolis in twenty seventeen at the 303 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Combine where they did a women's Careers in Football form. 304 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: She did it in twenty eighteen. She tried to get 305 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: the Bill Walsh Fellowship in twenty seventeen, didn't get it, 306 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: got it in twenty eighteen. And so she was a 307 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: defensive line assistant with the Ravens, and she bonded with 308 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: the likes of Terrell Suggs, Michael Pierce, and Brandon Williams, 309 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: all of whom felt like she knows her stuff. She 310 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: helped me with technique. I mean they all these guys 311 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: have come out on her behalf saying this. So she's 312 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: coaching at AAF she has a chance to meet Bruce Arians, 313 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: who earlier in his life had encountered a female receivers 314 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: coach at a junior college in Mississippi, and always kept 315 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: that in the back of his mind, and he said, 316 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are. If you can coach, 317 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: you can coach. And so Bruce are hires her and 318 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: she ends up there for three years, wins a Super 319 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Bowl ring, and now she's on the way to help 320 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. So that's who Laurie Locus is. She 321 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: has put in her time, she has earned her stripes. 322 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: And the players with whom she has worked the Adamican 323 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: sues and I mean we're talking amy. Those guys don't play. 324 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Uh no, those are real football players. Yes, but you 325 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: know they say, hey, she knows her stuff, and so 326 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: there you go the stamp of approval as she joins 327 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: Ryan Crowe coaching the outside linebackers for the Titans. You 328 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: want to know something that's kind of funny about Laura Locusum. 329 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I have a wall in my house where I put 330 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: sticky notes when I have ideas of people that I 331 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: want to interview for the OTP various things. If something 332 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: pops in my head, I put a sticky note on 333 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: the wall. I have had a sticky note on the 334 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: wall with her name on it since twenty nineteen on 335 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: the wall in my home. So I think that's going 336 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: to happen. Isn't that crazy? What this says to me 337 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: is if I leave my sticky notes long enough, these 338 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: people will just come to me. There you go, They'll 339 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: all join the Titans. But no, that's how long I've 340 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: known about her and just her presence in football. And 341 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's literally been on my wall for years 342 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: that I have wanted to do an interview with her 343 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: for the ot people. So personally, I am very excited 344 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: because I've been a fan of her story for a while. 345 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: The Titans have women working in the personnel and scouting 346 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: department now, correct, and they have people doing analysis on 347 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: certain things that are both male and female. So you 348 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: will go to practice and you will see females on 349 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: the field working. Now you're going to see one specifically 350 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: on the field helping coach the OLBS. I'm so excited. 351 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. Now, the question is are we 352 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: going to see Chris Harris coached the defensive pass game 353 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: as the coordinator and the cornerbacks. Former NFL player played 354 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: with multiple teams, he was a safety. He's been coaching 355 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: in the league. The last three years with Washington, they've 356 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: had some of the best secondaries in the NFL. And 357 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: the Titans announced Chris Harris was hired as the defensive 358 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: pass game coordinator and the cornerback coach yesterday, but he 359 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: has interviewed for the Houston Texans defensive coordinator's job, So 360 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, and probably about the minute we 361 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: post this, that will be resolved one way or the other. 362 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: That's the way this seems to be working this week. 363 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: But Chris is working with Scott Booker, and Scott has 364 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: coached the safeties. He's worked his way up from a 365 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: defensive assistant. Impressive guy. Rabels said it was hard to 366 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: not give him the secondary that he thinks he is 367 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: that close to ready, But the chance to get Chris 368 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Harris was just over and above because of what he's 369 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: done with the corners and what he's done with the 370 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: secondary in Washington. Overall, well, we will see. Stay tuned 371 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: on that one, I guess well. The other newcomer to 372 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: the staff is the defensive quality control coach, Justin Hamilton, 373 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: And if you follow Virginia Tech football, you know they 374 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: have a legendary defensive coordinator by the name of Bud Foster. 375 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: Bud Foster retired and the person who was hired to 376 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: replace him was Justin Hamilton. Justin Hamilton started his coaching 377 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: career at Grace Christian Academy in two thousand and nine 378 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: when he finished playing in the NFL. He spent a 379 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: couple of years in the NFL, parts of two seasons 380 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: with Cleveland and Washington, So he goes to Grace Christian 381 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: in Knoxville gets his coaching career started with a goal 382 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: of eventually getting to his alma mater, Virginia Tech, and maybe, 383 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: just maybe having a chance to be the defensive coordinator. 384 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: He was the defensive coordinator at in Aia, University of 385 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: Virginia's College at Wise, then Hokey coach Justin Fuente offered 386 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: him a job as the director of player development. He 387 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: was then moved on to the staff as he was 388 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: the safety's coach, and then in twenty twenty he became 389 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. When Justin Fuente lost his job at 390 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty one, Justin Hamilton decided he 391 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: was going to take a year off. So here's the 392 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: backstory to this. His wife is from East Tennessee, and 393 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: so he spent a good bit of this past fall 394 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: in East Tennessee. He actually was on a TV show 395 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: run by a great friend of mine by the name 396 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: of John Pennington from way back. John and I used 397 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: to do a TV show in nineteen ninety six together. 398 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: And his whole thing amy is he said, I want 399 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: to get back into coaching, but I want to go 400 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: to the pros. So that's what he's doing. He is 401 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: the defensive quality control coach and he will work in 402 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: the secondary. Now, do you have anything to add to 403 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: that or do you want me to keep going? No, 404 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I want you to keep going. It's kind of an 405 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: interesting story, isn't it. Yeah, I've been pulled into this story. 406 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. So he has a couple of famous former 407 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: pupils from Virginia Tech. Divine Diablow, the really big safety 408 00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: for the Raiders, kind of a linebacker safety hybrid. He's 409 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: a big dude, yes, And Caleb Farley's good and so 410 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: as Caleb Farley rich And I don't think they hired 411 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: him with the Titans for this reason. I think this 412 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: is just kind of what maybe a bonus in all 413 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: of this is Caleb's got some things he's got to 414 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: do physically to get well, for sure, but there's also 415 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: a confidence factor, right, and you wonder if this person 416 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: who goes back so far with him can bolster him 417 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: to where maybe, just maybe we can see the best 418 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: of Caleb Farley whatever that's going to be in the NFL, 419 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: which Amy, we have not seen as of yet. No, 420 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: we haven't. But this is kind of an exciting development 421 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: when you think about him and being able to maybe 422 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: jump start what it is that he might need in 423 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: terms of preparation and really getting the best out of him, 424 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: like you said, especially throughout the off season as he's 425 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: getting ready for training, camping beyond. So here's the common 426 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: thread we're sort of seeing in all of this, And 427 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm missing anything else. Hoteiling in the 428 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: offensive line teacher, instructor, communicator that guys really like to 429 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: work with as they work on their craft. Tony doos 430 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: We know? Is that too, right, Rob Moore? Is that 431 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: we know he's that kind of guy. Charles London doesn't 432 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: start his coaching career till he's twenty eight, has coached 433 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: multiple positions, has been with Tim Kelly before. That factors 434 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: into that as well. Pat O'Hara and Luke Steckel certainly 435 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: have those abilities themselves. And then on defense, we're talking 436 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: about Lori locus technique issues, being able to work on 437 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: specific fundamentals. And you find coaches in a variety of 438 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: sports when they come to sports later, they learned how 439 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: to do it the right way, and so they can 440 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: teach it the right way because they've never gotten the 441 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: bad habits when they were eight years old or twelve 442 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: years old or whatever. Just throwing that out there. Justin Hay, 443 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Justin Hamilton is clearly a teacher, and then Chris Harris 444 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: seems to have that about him, teaching those corners in 445 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Washington to play incredibly physical and to not be afraid. 446 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: That's what we saw in the game in Washington. We 447 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: completed the long pass to Westbrook a keene, but that 448 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: was really more fluky than it was a poor play. 449 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Everything was hard against those guys that day. Yeah, it was. 450 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: And I was doing a little work, you know, when 451 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: I was going through some of the Tim Kelly stuff 452 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: with the games that he had coached against us, and 453 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: I went back through and obviously I'm excited about the 454 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: defense because you're gonna have Harold Landry back to go 455 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Simmons, and I think having Harold Landry back, 456 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, in twenty one seventy five tackles, twelve sacks, 457 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: fourteen tackles for losses, forty nine quarterback pressures. He also 458 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: plays ninety percent of the snaps, so it's almost like 459 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: having two guys. When you lost Harold Landry, you almost 460 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: lost two guys. And Harold also can drop into coverage. 461 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Harold can play the run. Harold. There's really not much 462 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: Harold can't do, and that's why he's been I don't 463 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: want to say he's been Chane Bowen's favorite player, but 464 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: it's certainly been close because of the versatility of Harold Landry. 465 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: Having him back will benefit Big Jeff and whomever else 466 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: is up there in the front. The other thing, too, 467 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: amy when it became clear that Roger McCrary was gonna 468 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: win the corner job opposite Christian full time in camp, 469 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: and I think it became clear pretty early in August 470 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: that that was going to happen. We figured that our 471 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: secondary was going to be McCrary and faulting at the corners, 472 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: A Monti Hooker and Kevin Byard at the safety position, 473 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: and then Elijah Molden was going to be the nickel 474 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: and then we were going to have a J. Moore 475 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: to use maybe as the nickel linebacker, maybe as a 476 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: third safety. You know, there were some things they were 477 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: thinking about. Take out the aj More factor because he 478 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: was heard in training camp. Right. How many games those 479 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: five defensive backs started together in twenty twenty two, if any, 480 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it's not very many. Zero, That's what I thought. They never. 481 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Bayard played every game, McCrary played every game, but obviously 482 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: Hooker missed time faulton miss time, and Moulden basically didn't play. Yeah, 483 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: if you could have that group together with Chris Harris, 484 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: with Scott Booker, with Justin Hamilton, that's pretty good. It's great. Yeah, 485 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: And then what happens if Farley gives you something? What 486 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: happens if Trey Avery gives you something? What happens if 487 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: you start to find more of those pieces? I mean, 488 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: suddenly you have the secondary you thought you would have 489 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: last year that you never had together. To all five 490 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: start again. That's like your basketball lineup, your first five 491 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: you put on the floor. Those five did not start altogether. 492 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: One game didn't happen. The only game that Molden started. 493 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: Fulton was not available. Hooker may not have been available either. Yeah, 494 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: thinking back to things like that and some of those 495 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: lineup issues, and holy smokes, I mean the season was 496 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: so different than what we expected it to be strictly 497 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: from a personnel standpoint. The excitement of the possibilities of 498 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: having some of those personnel groupings that we hoped we 499 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: would have right under some real strong teachers and maybe 500 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: a different philosophy or a different mindset, just little tweaks 501 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: here and there. Oh, the possibilities. And I mean, listen, 502 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the complete style of what they're going 503 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: to look like on offense. I don't know that. I 504 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: don't know what that's going to look like. But I 505 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: do get the idea of what Rabel's philosophy is with 506 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: the adaptability. That's what he wants on offense, that's what 507 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: he wants on defense. And I think you can see 508 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: where he can get with rand Carthon and put together 509 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: a roster that these coaches can mold in that way 510 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: to be more adaptable. That's just as I've played with 511 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: it for literally hours last night and today. That's what 512 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: jumps out to me. Well, I think that's a pretty 513 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: good analysis. I think when we talk about what Mike 514 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: Vrabel's looking for in a coach and the way that 515 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: he defines what coaching is, a big part of that 516 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: is teaching, teaching and building relationships. How many times have 517 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: we heard him say just that and inspiring exactly. So 518 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: he has found people who can do that, who are teachers, 519 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: who are good communicators, who are good at building relationships 520 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: with people, can find a way to light your fire 521 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think I think that we 522 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: are continuing to see Mike Vrabel bring in Mike Vrabel 523 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: type coaches. If it's redundant, but it's it's exciting to see. 524 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: And I think that I think that the players, the 525 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: personnel will respond to that because they seem to respond 526 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: to Mike Vrabel. So getting more people who are of 527 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: a Mike Vrabel mindset can only benefit this team. Well, 528 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: hopefully Chris Harris will be here and hopefully the running 529 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: backs coach will be somebody who sort of fits that 530 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: and you and you got to have a feeling he's 531 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: got somebody in mind right this minute, right so because 532 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: that's Rabel, all right. So this is the addendum to 533 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: yesterday's OTP as we discuss the coaching staff here and 534 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of go through and I mean there's gonna be 535 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: a lot more to discuss. I mean, this is the 536 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: first blush because we are literally recording this twenty four 537 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: hours from the time that we learned of these these changes, 538 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: almost to the minute, almost to the minute. But when 539 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: you when you delve in some things, you're like, Okay, 540 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: I get I get what that is, and that's what 541 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm coming up with. So we'll see more to come 542 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: for sure, all right. Farm Bureau Health Plans is celebrating 543 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: seventy six years of providing Tennesseeans with high quality health 544 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: coverage at an affordable cost. Visit FBHP dot com to 545 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: learn about our history in Tennessee. Amy Wells, thank you 546 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: as always for the time. Oh my Keith, it was 547 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: a pleasure as always. Okay for Rhet, Brian and Amy Wells. 548 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm might key thanking you the ot people for tuning 549 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: in to the O team.