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Speaker 4: We'll get into the conversation right after. He's quick ass. Hey,

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Speaker 4: rain Drops, Happy New Year. So look, before we get

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Speaker 4: Ever since I started this podcast, you all haven't asking

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Speaker 3: For the visuals. That's what my rain Drops have been doing. Carlos.

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Speaker 4: today's episode of Reality with the King, I am joined

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Speaker 4: by Real Housewives a New Jersey star Margaret Joseph. Come

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Speaker 4: Without further ado, here's my conversation with Margaret josephs. Margaret, So,

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, And I feel said we didn't get to

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Speaker 4: Oh baby, And let's just get into your debut. You

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Speaker 4: Reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get

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Speaker 3: I could.

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Speaker 1: I could send it, I could screenshot it for you,

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Speaker 2: I'll show you right here.

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Speaker 4: This is a recent with your key exclusive We love

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Speaker 1: I have endless receipts. I sent it to numerous people.

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Speaker 1: Why would I do that? I brought her around. I

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Speaker 1: I want to lift everybody up. So I am going

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Speaker 3: It whatever you think is necessary, baby.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll show you the one I sent to hold on.

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Speaker 1: Here's the one. This is the one that Dave Quinn

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Speaker 1: February twenty seventh, at five twenty seven pm of twenty one.

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Speaker 1: brought on this group text and I have brought into

440
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: our group, has unfortunately attempted to insert herself into my

441
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: employment and contacted and met with my cast mates Jennifer

442
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: Aiden to undermine me. If you choose to associate with her,

443
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: please do not include me, which I am sure you won't.

444
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: I know this is very Housewives of me, but we

445
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: should all know when there's a snake in the group.

446
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: I hope none of you revealed anything to this beast.

447
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: She was on every group text I sent that Because

448
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: you know what, if you're want to go to people

449
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: I work with try and undermine me, trying to hurt

450
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: my career and say things that aren't true, I Am

451
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: going to confront it head on and put you on

452
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: the group chain.

453
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 3: Wow. And you know what, it's so interesting.

454
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: I think I'm pretty upfront.

455
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: Now, listen.

456
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: I think as a fan of New Jersey, we all

457
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 4: know you're pretty upfront. One thing I know about being

458
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 4: a reality TV producer is there is something unfortunate about

459
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 4: how friendships dissipate because of being famous and getting on

460
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 4: reality TV.

461
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: A lot of people truly.

462
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: Do and listen, I don't know this woman, and this

463
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: is no shade to her because I'm not in it.

464
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: What what I'm saying is based on my experience dealing

465
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: on other shows. A lot of people will sell their

466
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: soul to get on reality TV. And what was interesting

467
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 4: about all of that, this woman allegedly DMed a lot

468
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 4: of people, me included, and really want to Today's not alleged.

469
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: Yes, you know who.

470
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: Really wanted to have her story out there. And one

471
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: of the things she alleged is a lot of things

472
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: about infidelity.

473
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna reveal too much on the show because

474
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to get you.

475
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 4: In trouble, nor myself, but there are allegedly a lot

476
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: of accusations this upcoming season of New Jersey about infidelity.

477
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 4: Is it true that this woman is the one who

478
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: started those rumors?

479
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: Yes, she said those rumors. Yeah, she came to Teresa

480
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: and Jennifer with those rooms.

481
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: She's just putting them out there.

482
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: She claims they came from me, and not directly from me,

483
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: that I heard it from someone else, you know, saying

484
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: all these things. You know, what better way to make

485
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: your way onto a show? Than twists ounce of truth.

486
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: She said she was out, we were out with these people.

487
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: Are we friends with all these people? She said, these

488
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 1: infidelities happened with of course we're friends with these people.

489
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: Was she out with these you know, out with us

490
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: with these people, Yes, things like that. But to say

491
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: something where there's no proof, there's no photos. You heard it,

492
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: you heard it in my house. Of course everybody knows

493
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: she was in my house. If you weren't, what what

494
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: where is this coming from? And when did this happen? Oh,

495
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: it happened four years ago. I heard this four years ago.

496
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: What's the benefit of this? Why are you saying these things?

497
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: You're trying to get on a reality show. You're not

498
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: very credible.

499
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: What is the point?

500
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: And now you're you're dming, you're this, You're trying to

501
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: insert yourself into relevancy.

502
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: It's it's disappointing.

503
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: And you go to my two biggest people who I

504
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: was not getting along with at the time, and.

505
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: Are you able to confirm whether or not she does

506
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 4: appear on the show.

507
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: This season, does not appear, does not appear?

508
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: She does not appear on the show this season.

509
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 4: Again, I don't want to give too much away, but

510
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: allegedly this may be the introduction into Teresa versus Melissa,

511
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: which I know has been the one of the biggest

512
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: issues this season. And according to sources, people have said

513
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 4: that Teresa versus Melissa this upcoming season it's nothing like

514
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 4: you've ever seen before, that everything else prior to this

515
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 4: is a fucking walk in the park compared to what's

516
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: to come.

517
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: Are you able to confirm that, you know what?

518
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: It's?

519
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: It's different, it's a different kind of Teresa versus it's

520
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: not really to Resa versus Melissa. I think it's it's painful.

521
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of undercurrent. It's it's a

522
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: different kind of it's a different kind of drama, and

523
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: it's it's not combative. I think people are going to

524
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: find it very interesting. I think it's deep, so I

525
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: think everyone's going to have to watch. I don't want

526
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: to give away too much. I think it heats up,

527
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's a different kind of thing,

528
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's painful, and I think there's grudges being

529
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: held that should not be.

530
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: You know, that's my opinion, Carlos.

531
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: You know I'm not clearly, I'm not a grudge holder right,

532
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: So I'm not big with the grudges. You know, I'm

533
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: not big with grudges, so it upsets me. It upsets me.

534
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: I don't like to go back.

535
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: I like to look forward, and I don't like to say, well,

536
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: you did this ten years ago, or you did this

537
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: a long time ago, or you did that. That's not

538
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: something that works in life in general.

539
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on what's been circulating. I mean, look,

540
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: I consider myself to be a journalist.

541
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you are.

542
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: So long coming out the talk show, come on, so Margaret,

543
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 4: I like to report the news and go home, yes,

544
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 4: and be in my closet.

545
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: It does watch television.

546
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: So obviously one of the biggest topics right now is

547
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: my conversation with Heavy McDonald about Theresa being blindsided that

548
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 4: Melissa and Joe was joining the show. I had to Lisa,

549
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: who's my friend on my podcast where she did reveal

550
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: which I did not know she was going to reveal

551
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: it how me and Melissa are Facebook friends and Melissa

552
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: you said message me on Facebook all those things right,

553
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: And obviously it's been the talk of the town. You

554
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: recently had an appearance with Teresa. How did it go

555
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: and was this topic brought up during that appearance.

556
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: We had a great We had a great appearance. It was,

557
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, very cordial, but it was funny because they

558
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: asked me about my podcast. I said, I have entrepreneurs, disruptors,

559
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: I named some people. Then I said I have Carlos

560
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: King on my podcast and that I Teresa.

561
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: She got mad at me. Yeah, I know, And you

562
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: called him a liar. Did I call you a liar?

563
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: No, you didn't call me a liar. But listen you.

564
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: I said you caused a ship store on the internet.

565
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: That's what I said.

566
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: I said, with you call me a liar? You said,

567
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: it's funny. Out of it? Out of it?

568
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: Uh?

569
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: Here that you said that? What what was said? You were?

570
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: You were you and Joe Hi Joe, Your Joe, not

571
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: the other Joe, Your Joe, and you were being interviewed

572
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: by someone. They brought up my interview and the only

573
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 4: thing you said was that wasn't the story that me

574
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 4: and you.

575
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: Talked about in your podcast. And what I was saying.

576
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you said you were called in the supermarket by

577
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: Teresa and she told you that they were coming on

578
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: the show.

579
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh no, and I and I stand by that, and

580
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 4: that was the thing, and that was the thing.

581
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: And I said, Terrisa too, I'm a liar.

582
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you didn't call me a liar either.

583
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: Not.

584
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: What I said to Teresa.

585
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: Was I did my interview with Margaret a week before

586
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, a week after.

587
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: I did my interview Teresa.

588
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: And obviously, like I said earlier, me and Teresa known

589
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 4: each other for over ten years.

590
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Our conversation is deeper, Margan.

591
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: I did not go deep into it because the interview

592
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: with you, right, the interview that I did with you,

593
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: was not detailed on that. So I want to I

594
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: want to say that, No, you did not call me

595
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 4: a liar. You said that's not the story you were told.

596
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Because at the end of the day, you and I

597
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: never talked about the Facebook thing because I kept that

598
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 4: to myself. So when Teresa brought it up, I'm not

599
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: going to lie it is.

600
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: It is the truth.

601
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 4: And look, and I want to say this on my podcast.

602
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: I said it on your podcast and I said it

603
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: to Teresa too. I just want the world to know

604
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: that I am not involved in that family dynamic. My

605
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: truth was my truth about Teresa, how she found out

606
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: and the Melissa thing. I do not dislike Melissa. I

607
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: don't know Melissa, I don't know Georgorga. Look, that's they

608
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: are great for the show. I've said that before, and

609
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: as a person who has nine siblings and a big family,

610
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: I think it's sad to where things are. And my hope,

611
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: I agree. My hope is that they're able to get

612
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: past this. But as someone who's close to Melissa and

613
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: has a friendship with Teresa, when you when you hear

614
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: these stories, how do.

615
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: You feel about it?

616
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: Like, do you feel at the end of the day,

617
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: in a perfect world, Melissa would have at least given

618
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: Teresa heads up or do you feel at the end

619
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: of the day they were not on speaking terms and

620
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: she doesn't owe her anything.

621
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: I the story, see Carlos. The story I know is

622
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: that Melissa and Andy Cohen, Melissa, Teresa knew Melissa interviewed.

623
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: She didn't know she got it, but she knew she

624
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: was interviewing for the position, and she was annoyed by it.

625
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: She didn't realize that she got it.

626
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: I know that part.

627
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, go ahead, That's what we had talked

628
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: about on my podcast. We had talked about that on

629
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: my podcast, and it was a family show, and you

630
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: know other family members were on it. Listen, it's very

631
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: hard to work with family. But Dina and Caroline were

632
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: on it, and Jacqueline. They were all related. It's not

633
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: far fetched that Melissa and Joe would be on it

634
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: with Teresa. I understand, Listen, it's hard to work with family.

635
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: I understand that. But now we're ten years down the road.

636
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, We're ten years down the road.

637
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: So that's what I try and say to Teresa. Who

638
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: cares say if you didn't know, just say, like you know,

639
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: that's why are you still upset? Like, let's just put

640
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: this behind us. You've worked with them for so long.

641
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: You both fed off each other. We've had an amazing run.

642
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: This has been a great show, the successes of it

643
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: for both of you. Like, let's not be upset. It's

644
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: not worth it. Nothing is worth this upset. That's the

645
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: way I feel. Do you understand what I'm saying. It's

646
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: just it's too far gone already. It's like, why we

647
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't still be talking about this. You know, Teresa, you're

648
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: happily married, you have a beautiful life moving for like

649
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: this should be, like she says in her rear view mirror.

650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: What are you still talking about this? It's not worth it,

651
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: you don't there's nothing to be indicated over.

652
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: It's like.

653
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: It's over, you know what I mean, It's like whatever

654
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: it is, you know, Melissa says, this is the truth.

655
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: She you know, from the beginning, she said, Teresa knew

656
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: she was interviewing.

657
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: She really, she.

658
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Really, wholeheartedly says that that is what I heard from

659
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: the beginning when I met them. Teresa wholeheartedly says she

660
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Speaker 1: had no idea. Never those two are going to agree

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Speaker 1: on something.

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Speaker 3: Never.

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Speaker 2: Never is that going to happen.

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Speaker 1: So the whole point is is just like why are

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Speaker 1: we but it's so far in the past, why are

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Speaker 1: we still talking about it? Like, listen, I have such

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Speaker 1: family bullshit, such family drama I could complain about NonStop.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I would never have a relationship with

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Speaker 1: some people in my.

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Speaker 2: Life if I still spoke about it.

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Speaker 1: Right, Am I still going to be talking about Teresa

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Speaker 1: pull in my hair?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't give a shit at this point. It's like

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Speaker 1: whatever I chose to, you know, forgive and forget. It's

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Speaker 1: like we got to drop it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, listen, I I hope that at some

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Speaker 4: point they're able to reconcile. And look, I just think

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Speaker 4: it's it's unfortunate what happened. And as someone who was

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Speaker 4: around the first two seasons, the one thing I will

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Speaker 4: say is I understand how Teresa feels about filming with

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Speaker 4: her family only because she saw how unfortunate the Manzell

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Speaker 4: situation was. And as somebody who was a part of

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Speaker 4: that for the first two seasons, Margaret, listen, and this

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Speaker 4: is not me trying to like give an exclusive about

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes stuff. What I will say about the

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Speaker 4: Manzel's the first two seasons, you guys have no idea

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Speaker 4: how deep that shit was behind the scenes. It was

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Speaker 4: god awful. And I think that's probably where Teresa hit

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Speaker 4: is that I and I do understand that. But you

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Speaker 4: guys have the second highest rated franchise behind Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of it has to do with this

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Speaker 4: current cast. This cast is super phenomenal. It's super great.

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Speaker 4: I think all of you guys work well together. Do

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Speaker 4: we get a chance to see any reconciliation, Margaret, between

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Speaker 4: you and the great Jennifer Aiden.

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Speaker 1: I thought we reconciled last year. I thought we had

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Speaker 1: a beautiful reconciliation last year. Whenever I reconcile with someone,

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Speaker 1: it's genuine. I'd like to say I'm very genuine. I

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Speaker 1: think some of my cast members are not. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to leave it at that when I say when

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Speaker 1: I reconcile with someone, it's from the heart.

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Speaker 2: Obviously with other people it's not.

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Speaker 4: How is this show able to move forward if there

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Speaker 4: is this big division in the group.

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Speaker 3: Do you see a way out of this divide?

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Speaker 1: I think, for the sake of listen, I you know,

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Speaker 1: I never thought look at me and Theresa last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean I made it on the wedding list somehow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at what happened last year with her

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Speaker 1: and I and you know she wanted to murder me.

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Speaker 2: And you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think time heals all wounds, because it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it always does.

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Speaker 2: But I think reflection, everybody's got to take a minute.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe when I hope, when we watch the

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Speaker 1: season back and you see everybody's pain, maybe things could change.

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Speaker 1: We have a time till we go to the reunion.

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Speaker 1: I think time is going to tell when everybody watches

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Speaker 1: the season back.

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Speaker 4: One of my last questions is you are a polarizing

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Speaker 4: figure to watch.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy watching you on the show. I thank you.

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Speaker 4: I think you are super fantastic for the show. There's

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Speaker 4: been a lot of failures with New Housewives upcoming and

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Speaker 4: after I left, But you are You and Jennifer Aiden,

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Speaker 4: to me, are are the two best casting decisions. I

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Speaker 4: think you too are just I think you two are

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Speaker 4: just so fucking fantastic. Honestly, what do you think is

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Speaker 4: the biggest misconception when it comes to you?

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, the biggest miss two big misconceptions. I

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Speaker 1: think because I am so strong, that that I'm not

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Speaker 1: sensitive or that I don't feel the pain. People could

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Speaker 1: think that, oh, she's cold about something, or when I

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Speaker 1: say something, you know, like oh I don't care about kids,

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Speaker 1: I don't care about moms. That's nonsense. Because I have

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Speaker 1: a strong conviction. People think that I don't feel things,

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Speaker 1: uh and that and that's not the case.

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Speaker 2: I I do.

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Speaker 1: I just have been in business a long time before

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Speaker 1: I got on this show. I am tough and I

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Speaker 1: am resilient, and I think that's that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't crumble easy because I haven't had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: in life. I wasn't able to because I had to

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Speaker 1: stand on my own. So I think people think I'm

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Speaker 1: tougher than I am because I do crazily. I am

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Speaker 1: super sensitive and things do hurt me, but I do

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Speaker 1: bounce back quickly and I could see. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's a big misconception. I think it's a big misconception

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Speaker 1: about me being a mom. Everyone's like, you know and

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Speaker 1: see your kids.

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Speaker 2: You don't do this.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm very private. That is something I hold very,

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Speaker 1: very dear and close to my heart. Yes, I spoke

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Speaker 1: about the pain of being separate from my children and

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Speaker 1: two out of the six, two out of six kids.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I have a biological son and we are

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Speaker 1: also super close, but I keep that so private that

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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to really know about me as

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Speaker 1: a mom. I mean, I wish I could share, because

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Speaker 1: that's my top priority, and it's such a top priority

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Speaker 1: for private.

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Speaker 3: And it's true that your child doesn't want to be

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Speaker 3: on the show, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, have nothing to do with the show, doesn't have

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Speaker 1: social media, stays very out of the public eye never

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Speaker 1: And it's funny, even before I was on the show,

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Speaker 1: if we'd go on a vacation, he would say, don't

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Speaker 1: host very humble, very private, don't let people know where

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Speaker 1: we are, don't let people know what we have. All

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Speaker 1: my kids will like that, except Brett, my oldest stepson,

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Speaker 1: filmed with me and did things with me. But Joe's

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Speaker 1: kids same thing, and we are all very close. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's a very misconception. So people, that's the

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Speaker 1: biggest insult. People love love to give me. Your kids

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Speaker 1: hate you. You know, whenever they're upset with me on

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Speaker 1: the show, they always try and stick it to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh your own kids don't want to be around you,

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Speaker 1: and you know my big reactions I you know, I

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Speaker 1: want to stick it back and be like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: buckle off, basically like.

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Speaker 2: I'm with my kid.

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Speaker 1: But I don't even have to prove that to anybody,

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Speaker 1: because anybody who knows me in my town, anybody who

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Speaker 1: I'm very blessed with the beautiful family and that's why

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Speaker 1: I keep it so private.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, you have page your dues on the rah

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Speaker 4: hoswasal New Jersey. You are definitely one of the best

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Speaker 4: additions on that show. Thank you, and I would like

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Speaker 4: to see you continue. Before I let you go, I

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Speaker 4: gotta get.

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Speaker 2: One last question, and of course, lovey.

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Speaker 4: If you could bring back any former housewife of New

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Speaker 4: Jersey to join you wonderful ladies, who would it be

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Speaker 4: And why I.

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Speaker 1: Really would bring back Caroline Manzo. I've said it before

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Speaker 1: because listen, she's been off air for a while, She's

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Speaker 1: watched us. She has a different perspective. She knows, she's

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Speaker 1: still good friends with Dolores, she knows some of these ladies,

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Speaker 1: her and Teresa have been together, they filmed commercials together.

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Speaker 1: There could be deep perspective there, there could be healing,

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Speaker 1: and I think she would be good for the show.

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Speaker 1: I think we could have a good time together and

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Speaker 1: I think it could be an interesting perspective.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's like Old Jersey meets New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, and it'll all come

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Speaker 1: full circle.

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Speaker 4: As the king of reality TV, Margaret, I would have

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Speaker 4: to read Yes, So, Margaret, my beauty, let the world

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Speaker 4: know where they can find you. Folly support you and

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Speaker 4: all those wonderful things.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Okay, can follow me at the

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Speaker 1: and then you could basically that's it on my website,

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Speaker 1: MARKT Joseph dot com. And we're coming out with a

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Speaker 3: Love that? Love that?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Margaret, Thanks Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 4: When I say to you, I cannot wait until this

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Speaker 4: upcoming season of the Real housewats on Jersey, there's so

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Speaker 4: much tea that's being spilled. I mean, I think this

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Speaker 4: may be one of their best seasons.

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Speaker 3: And child, I can't wait.

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Speaker 4: I also can't wait for the Union two because y'all

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