WEBVTT - That Part with Lauren Spencer Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in, and by we, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's me and Easton in the building.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't where is Tanya. I don't even know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I thought she'd be here and then no, No,

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<v Speaker 2>she's just a no show. But there was a reason

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I just can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds very legit and real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tanya doesn't miss if it's not important, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure she's in her ludial phase or something and had

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<v Speaker 2>important things to tend to. But today we are joined

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<v Speaker 2>by a rising star in the music industry whose angelic

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<v Speaker 2>voice and heartfelt lyrics have captivated audiences around the world.

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<v Speaker 2>She's best known for her groundbreaking hits such as Fingers

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<v Speaker 2>Crossed and Flowers, as well as being included on Billboard's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one Under twenty one list. She's not only a

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<v Speaker 2>talented singer songwriter, but also a true inspiration to her fans,

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging them to embrace their authenticity and face life's challenges

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<v Speaker 2>head on. Not to mention she's only nineteen years old

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<v Speaker 2>and she's already accomplished so much. Please give a warm

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Lauren Spencer Smeg. I'm so happy to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was telling you when you first got here that

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<v Speaker 2>I got to listen to your whole album that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>out in July. God, and it is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I it's crazy to think that you have been through

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<v Speaker 2>so much at such a young age. When I'm listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the album, I'm like, Wow, there's a lot a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to UNA's written in a guitar.

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<v Speaker 1>Second album coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I'm writing that right now, but you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a good place right now. Yah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess it depends what topic of life. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend's amazing great. Other aspects, I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great. Okay, there's room for there for my second album.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I feel like as a my girlfriend's a musician,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like sometimes like the downs are what produce.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes when I'm happy, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna be able to make music like.

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<v Speaker 2>What Well, I know that when you when you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>your your new single that part, everyone was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>we love the sad stuff, but any any chance for

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<v Speaker 2>like a hopeful love song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I've been getting asked that a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>And then we finally wrote one.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you been with your boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>A year and a half? I guess, like officially, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was the heartbreak? Like when did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>It Like we didn't even date. It was like such

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<v Speaker 1>a non serious thing. That's why it's so embarrassing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really embarrassing to look back and now that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>like a healthy relationship and just like realize, like what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was love and what I was putting up

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<v Speaker 1>with We don't need to name names.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the past, yea, he is in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we got a hit song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's worth it. But yeah, it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>real If my boyfriend now broke up with me, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what I would do with myself, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that, oh and me emotionally and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even I can't mentally handle my boyfriend ever leaving me

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows, so he won't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, glad y'all all have that pet because we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I was thinking about this because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we go through heartbreak our whole life, and

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like the biggest thing in the world at

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<v Speaker 2>that moment. Right, Like you're young and you have your

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<v Speaker 2>first ever crush and it's devastating, but then you experience

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<v Speaker 2>your next crush and you're like, well that was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, is that just how it continues?

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of scary, say, I've already met it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so made at nineteen great, but I'm kids can get

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<v Speaker 1>married him.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you all meet?

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<v Speaker 1>We met at the gym? Oh wow, we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like I already kind of knew him ish from the

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<v Speaker 1>gym when I started talking to him, but like literally

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<v Speaker 1>the first time he texted me, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love him. I'm gonna marry him. I told all my friends, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had not even had a full conversation with him,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he just texted me one thing that was funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, love him, obsessed, And then I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him for like weeks on end, and I

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<v Speaker 1>came back from a trip and I had like twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hours on the island home before I had to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Europe for two months and hang out with him

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<v Speaker 1>once and was like, this is gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 1>long distance, but we knew we liked each other, like

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<v Speaker 1>just from hanging out once, and then we did long

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<v Speaker 1>distance for like two months, and then when I finally

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<v Speaker 1>came back, he was like, Okay, now I can ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to be my girlfriend. Because I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you over text or FaceTime because he waited to

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<v Speaker 1>be in person. I was annoyed. It was like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>cute because you're like wow, like you're such a gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I had to tell people we've been dating

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<v Speaker 1>for a year and a half instead of year and

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<v Speaker 1>eight months, and that's really frustrating for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell me a year and eight Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. Yeah, that's like my girlfriend. We met in April,

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<v Speaker 2>and like in my mind, from the first moment we met,

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<v Speaker 2>we were together the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same I say, we started like we've always been together

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<v Speaker 1>in two.

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<v Speaker 2>Years and in August, So April to August that's a

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<v Speaker 2>good chunk of times. She goes, are you gonna ask

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<v Speaker 2>me to be your girlfriend? And I go, are we

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<v Speaker 2>not girling where we were? And she's like, well you

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<v Speaker 2>have to ask me. I'm like, well, you've been in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with woman before. I haven't done that, So

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't know that was part of the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I thought it was just established together. So

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<v Speaker 2>so now when we celebrate our anniversary, I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone I talked to has that same story. Like my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend too is like Ben says, we've been dating

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<v Speaker 1>for this long, but we've actually been dating for this long.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's everyone really complicated. Yeah, but we're all happy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the main It's fine. The main thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still together, so it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish so my co host Tanya, she was out today,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wish she was here because we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the song that part and she was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's me. That's she said, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>that's me right now because she's like waiting to get engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's like ready for the next part. And I'm like, Tanya,

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<v Speaker 2>that song has been your whole relationship. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>was like, when are we getting to the next phase?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's honestly really what the song is about. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like a lot of people have interpreted it

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh, Lauren wants to get engaged right now,

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<v Speaker 1>which like I do, but it's just been like the

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<v Speaker 1>story of since day one, I've wanted to get engaged,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to marry you, and I've always felt

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<v Speaker 1>that way from like day one, so it's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just having that feeling from day one, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>like we're actually getting engaged right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he your first love?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think I guess. I don't know, because

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<v Speaker 1>what we were just talking about makes it seem like

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old me would have been like no, like

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<v Speaker 1>this was my first love. But now I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that was like nothing. I was a child, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it is my first love. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>hate saying that because and everyone says, like, you leave

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<v Speaker 1>your first love.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hate when I see that stuff because I

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<v Speaker 2>had never been in love before I met my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we met, she's my first love. She's not

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<v Speaker 2>my first relationship. She's the first time I've been in love.

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<v Speaker 2>And then people will be like the first heartbreak is your.

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<v Speaker 1>First love, and I'm like, and I know if I

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<v Speaker 1>would jump off a bridge if I broke.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, No, no, no, we need good music. You can't just

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<v Speaker 2>jump off a bridge. We got to have like they would,

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<v Speaker 2>I would not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like I tell you right now, I am

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<v Speaker 1>dead if Matt breaks up with me. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on his shoulders.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt, if you're hearing this, if you're listening.

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<v Speaker 1>To, don't break up with me, babe, everyone else needs

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<v Speaker 1>you to not break up with me.

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<v Speaker 2>We need you, Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't know. I don't like saying that

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<v Speaker 1>because there's that like myth about it.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, no, yeah, we're good. We're good. Does he

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<v Speaker 2>is he your age or y'all both?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's four years older than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Actually, so when y'all started dating basically long distance

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<v Speaker 2>and you had these intense feelings for him, how was that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that long distance is no joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was very like for months, I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to break up with me and that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to be with someone who's traveling all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And like he says, he likes it now,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is just the honeymoon phase. But my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>is very reassuring. Like even like the other day, I

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<v Speaker 1>had forgotten that we even do long distance because it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like how our life is, so it's so normal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Babe, I think I need to

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again. Because like no one else would be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to date someone who just like constantly is all

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, like, hey, I'm going away for six weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're not going to see me, and he's just

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred percent completely fine with it, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>always been like that from day one. But I knew

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<v Speaker 1>he felt the same way back, so I I overthought

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, but I did know deep down that

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<v Speaker 1>he felt the same way. So I was like, Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You felt safe. Yeah, I'm going to tell my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>that she needs to start thanking me a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more with her while she's traveling around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a lot to add. Like I genuinely thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be single till I was like

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<v Speaker 1>forty and just like adopt a kid by myself because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, nobody will ever want to be with

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<v Speaker 1>an artist. It's like the most complicated lifestyle to have

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<v Speaker 1>to be with, Like you can't do normal things like

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<v Speaker 1>me and my boyfriend want to get a dog and

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<v Speaker 1>we're like, well, you're not famous enough to get a

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<v Speaker 1>dog because like you're not on an arena tour. But

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're on an arena tour, like you can

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<v Speaker 1>bring the dog, you have an assistant to look after

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<v Speaker 1>the dog, like all those things, and then like you

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<v Speaker 1>just can't do normal Yeah, well things like if even

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to have kids at like twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can't. That's probably like peak arena tour moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not having kids in the middle of that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many things that I feel like in my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes of what I want my life to be, like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do things with my career first, and

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<v Speaker 1>like he I'm very thankful that he's just completely fine

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<v Speaker 1>with all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you do have to think of things differently, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you do have to think of things in a different

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<v Speaker 2>timeline than people who have a traditional job or have

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<v Speaker 2>traditional schedules, because you're able to be like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gone, you can watch the dog whatever. But you're

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm always doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always gone, And like I just feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>miss The only holiday that I feel like I can

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<v Speaker 1>always guarantee I'll probably be home for is like Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably only because I'm very like I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be home for Christmas. But like you missed like

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<v Speaker 1>so many birthdays and just so many things that are

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<v Speaker 1>like important to every person usually, and they just have

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<v Speaker 1>to be like completely okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I've known who you are

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time and known your songs and your

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<v Speaker 2>your TikTok and everything. But for those who don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about you or your story, when did things become not

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<v Speaker 2>normal for you? Like when did you have that moment

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<v Speaker 2>of going like, oh, it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. My Fingers Crossed came out because I tease

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<v Speaker 1>Fingers Crossed in November, but it didn't come out until January.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very long teasing period.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait was that just this last year?

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so last last November?

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<v Speaker 1>It camest it November twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nouh gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay January thirty twenty two. Okay, So like I guess almost,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a year and a half ago. Actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even when I was teasing it, I didn't think I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was big, but I had teased stuff before.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do as well as Fingers Crossed, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, oh, i'll put it out. Yeah, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>make some money. Great, I'll stay living in my house

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<v Speaker 1>like it, I'll be wonderful. And then like the second

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<v Speaker 1>it came out, like I got a call that was

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<v Speaker 1>like it's number one on this This isn't this like

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<v Speaker 1>we're finding you to New York tomorrow at like five

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what, Oh my god. I hit it to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And like from then it was just like meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>labels and doing and ever since, I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>not been home for more than two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>At a time. I mean, it's so exciting to have

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<v Speaker 2>that happen because I feel like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you have a viral moment, it's like the

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<v Speaker 2>fear of like will this continue after this song and

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<v Speaker 2>you've had You've maintained it. You Like I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>at your TikTok right before you walked in, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have people that are like more and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more, like they're always wanting more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's terrifying when fingers Cross blew up. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think about that instantly, I cause I I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>in my head that I was putting out another song

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<v Speaker 1>for like a while. But the second I started to

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<v Speaker 1>put out new music, I was like, oh God, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe my success is in the past, like how am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna maintain this? And even for a while after

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<v Speaker 1>Flowers came out, like I just I have not had

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<v Speaker 1>a song do as well as Fingers Crossing Flowers ever

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<v Speaker 1>since they came out, and I was like, I'm a failure,

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<v Speaker 1>like my rears over and my good days are in

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<v Speaker 1>or behind me. And then like that part started to

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<v Speaker 1>do kind of mood. I was like, I'm back, It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna be successful one day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a roller coaster, yeah, And I am trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think of I'm thinking of myself. I'm thirty four, so

0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.520
<v Speaker 2>myself at your like myself right now. I don't know

0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.360
<v Speaker 2>that I could handle that. Yeah, So I think of

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<v Speaker 2>myself at nineteen and thinking of that pressure that I

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<v Speaker 2>would put on myself of like can I do it again?

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<v Speaker 2>Do people care?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do they care about what I have to say?

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<v Speaker 2>But people are obsessed with you. They love you like

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<v Speaker 2>you're just You'll just be singing in a parking garage

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<v Speaker 2>and because you're always like you could. You're one of

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<v Speaker 2>those people who could sing the alphabet and people would

0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.960
<v Speaker 2>be like, that's amazing, undone, We've never heard it before

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<v Speaker 2>because your voice is so good. But I've always wondered

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like to have that type of success

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<v Speaker 2>in like such an instant and then and then be

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<v Speaker 2>able to maintain it is like, really an incredible thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been able to do. You have a song

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<v Speaker 2>on there about It's called twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, I'm just curious.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was listening to it and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this about, Oh, it's about your your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had so many people ask me this, and every

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm like.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for people who are in the same situation,

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<v Speaker 1>they know what it's about. And then there's all the

0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.960
<v Speaker 1>people who have like their parents are together, or like

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<v Speaker 1>their mom or dad have never dated anybody else, so

0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.880
<v Speaker 1>they would have no idea what it's about. And for

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<v Speaker 1>those people, I just never talk because I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just glad you don't know what I'm going through, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone who has been through it is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what this is about.

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<v Speaker 2>Have they heard it?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they I've never met her. Still the

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<v Speaker 1>main thing, Honestly, I debated putting that song up for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, Like I mean, I could start crying talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I debated for so long, being like what are the

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<v Speaker 1>pros of putting us out? What are the cons? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you're a songwriter, you write so

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<v Speaker 1>many songs about people, but like they're not in your

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<v Speaker 1>life anymore, right, so you're like, I don't give yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like when you're actually writing about like there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many songs I've written that I just tell people there

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<v Speaker 1>about relationships and like they're about somebody that maybe is

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<v Speaker 1>still in my life in this moment, because I don't

0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.120
<v Speaker 1>want to hurt that person's feelings. But it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a direct thing that I was like, ooh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so obvious if I put it out,

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<v Speaker 1>which I will say, I probably put it out. You

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<v Speaker 1>know when they say you should wait till you're over

0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it to make like a rash decision, right, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still not over it. So I just decided to put

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<v Speaker 1>it out, like in a moment of still being upset

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah, which I don't know if in five

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<v Speaker 1>years if I'm gonna regret that, but I will say

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<v Speaker 1>they have definitely heard it and they're not stokes that.

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<v Speaker 2>It is out. I will say that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes there's things where there's fear in releasing something. But

0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.080
<v Speaker 2>the thing is is you can look back and be like, wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>how will I feel about releasing this, But yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>what you're going through now, and what you're going through

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<v Speaker 2>now happened, whether there's something good happens from it, or

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<v Speaker 2>if it just stays where it's like not a great situation,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but yeah, this is happening right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>their feelings happen right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I started teasing it, I still hadn't decided like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>should I put this out or should just be like

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<v Speaker 1>a one video thing? And then after I started teasing it,

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<v Speaker 1>every single person was commenting like, oh, like my stepmom's

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<v Speaker 1>only like ten years older than me, Like there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a song about this. And then I started seeing like

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<v Speaker 1>literally millions of people commenting the exact same thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was like totally alone and just being

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<v Speaker 1>over dramatic, like majority of my families, like Lawrence being

0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.400
<v Speaker 1>over dramatic, this is ridiculous, and I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>being over dramatic. This is weird, like and like the

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<v Speaker 1>story was never like this is just weird to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm allowed to feel weird about it, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel weird about it and still accept it and

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<v Speaker 1>just be like this is weird. Yeah, And there were

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<v Speaker 1>so many just like young kids that I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in situations like this at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>like you want everyone to be happy, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you don't blame your parents for this, but

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<v Speaker 1>like they obviously just make decisions when they want to

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<v Speaker 1>be happy as well. And I think a lot of

0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the people who relate to this song their parents made

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<v Speaker 1>a decision when they were younger that they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize would affect their kids until their kids became a teenager,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, oh, I'm hanging out with someone

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<v Speaker 1>that's like six years older than me, and my stepmom's

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<v Speaker 1>only six years older than me. And you didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it was weird when you were a kid until you

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<v Speaker 1>got older. But the second I saw everybody, what are

0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you relating to it? I was like, I have to

0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>put this out now. Now I feel obligated to be

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<v Speaker 1>the spokesperson for this situation.

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes we also forget our parents are humans, yeah,

0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.320
<v Speaker 2>going through life for the first time too.

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<v Speaker 1>The older I get, the more I forgive my parents

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<v Speaker 1>for things. There's some things that, like even the situation

0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.800
<v Speaker 1>at hand is forgivable, but like the way the situation

0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 1>went about, I'm like, I wouldn't do it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've also made so many mistakes in life that

0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the older I get, I'm like, oh, I see why

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<v Speaker 1>my mom did that, or oh I see when my

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:32.119
<v Speaker 1>dad did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's things, like a lot of things

0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll go it's forgivable, but I am not so quick

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<v Speaker 2>to forget it.

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm not forgetting. Honestly, I'm probably not

0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.359
<v Speaker 1>even forgiving. I'm just like, we're just gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>super passive about it and just move on, because I

0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.440
<v Speaker 1>guess I have to move on from this in order

0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to keep you in my life, and I will not forget. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you piss me off in six months, I'm gonna

0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.919
<v Speaker 1>rebring this up, probably in the.

0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Argument playing blast this song yeah in the background. When

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<v Speaker 2>you decide to tease music, how is there like a

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<v Speaker 2>system to it or is there a way that you

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<v Speaker 2>do it? That's what I'm trying to ask. Is is

0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.879
<v Speaker 2>it like a calculated thing that you do or is

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<v Speaker 2>it just I love this song and I want to

0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 2>tease I think people are gonna like it.

0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's kind of both Okay. I get

0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.160
<v Speaker 1>like gut feelings about songs, and I'm like, this has

0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to be out. I love this, this is fire, Like

0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the most relatable thing I've ever written. I

0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.880
<v Speaker 1>go on like crazy, I need to put this out.

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Modes of things. I will say sometimes I think a

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>song is good and like I wrote it for a

0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.320
<v Speaker 1>therapeutic reason that if I don't think it's one hundred

0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>percent relatable to a lot of people, I won't always

0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.000
<v Speaker 1>be the first song that I choose. I might still

0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.320
<v Speaker 1>put it on my album, but like, if it's not

0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the most relatable, it might not be the next thing

0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that I pick. I do try to have some type

0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of reason as to why I think other people would

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.160
<v Speaker 1>relate to it before I tease it. But I do

0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>normally like most of the songs I write, so I'm

0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be unhappy like picking one or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, the whole album is so good,

0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.679
<v Speaker 2>and in my mind, I'm thinking what song is on

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.760
<v Speaker 2>there that people don't relate to? Like you want a

0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 2>song about a best friend breakup, which there's not many

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.600
<v Speaker 2>songs about that, Like I think we hear so many

0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 2>songs about romantic breakups, but it's a song about your

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 2>best friend. Ultimately, I'm dating someone and friend anyone. Yeah,

0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:42.160
<v Speaker 2>do you do you feel like you are that friend ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Like now that you're in a relationship where.

0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:49.080
<v Speaker 1>You're I'm like, I think my best friend relates to

0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the best friend breakup from my I literally think about

0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 1>it all the time. I'm like, oh, I totally did

0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.639
<v Speaker 1>that to my friends, like I should probably I probably

0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 1>owe the person who I wrote best and makeup about

0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and apology for the way that I act in my relationship.

0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.119
<v Speaker 1>But now that I'm older and I'm not friends with

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that person anymore, Like a lot of the song was

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 1>written from like no hatred, Like it was just like, wow,

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that's really crazy. I know their middle name, I know

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 1>everything about them, and like I see her in the

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 1>store and we just have an awkward conversation as if

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't know each other. Like there was no like, oh,

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm still mad about this. Obviously when I was like

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen or sixteen, I was pissed, but now I look

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.399
<v Speaker 1>back and being like, oh, okay, I get it, Like

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, Like I hope you're happy in your relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel like sometimes in my situation it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different because I started dating Matt literally right

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.640
<v Speaker 1>as I started teasing fingers crossed, So my life also

0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:50.240
<v Speaker 1>has something different, which also stops me from being able

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to have normal friendships with people. Yeah, and like there's

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:54.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of friends I used to have, but I

0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>just can't be friends with them anymore because it was

0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.160
<v Speaker 1>like a high maintenance friendship, like we hung out every

0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>single day, we always talk to each other, and now

0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like you just have to be cool that I don't

0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 1>answer the phone for five days because I'm so busy

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and I can't, in my ten seconds of peace be like, oh,

0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.359
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with them today? Like I just have

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to sit alone in silence and be like everything's gonna

0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.520
<v Speaker 1>be fine. So I feel like my situation is a

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit different. I try to balance it, but it

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 1>is true. You just end up being with your partner

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<v Speaker 1>more than impress else.

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna ask, how do you manage that? Because

0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 2>does it get lonely when you're like let's say you're

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 2>gone and you don't have your friends and Matt's busy,

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm probably just depressed. I will say I'm pretty fortunate,

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Like my mom comes a lot of places with me.

0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>That's great.

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.200
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend actually comes a decent amount, probably more than

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<v Speaker 1>like other people that I know. I'm also pretty fortunate

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that my boyfriend's job is not like him needing to

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.159
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere constantly all the time, so he can and

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 1>has the ability to come and be with me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also pretty close with like everyone that I have to

0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:02.240
<v Speaker 1>do starts with my guitarist, like my videographer. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would say those people are my friends and I would

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 1>hang out with them, so I wouldn't say I probably

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<v Speaker 1>get as lonely as other people. And like this tour,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend, who I wrote majority of my album with,

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.440
<v Speaker 1>is opening, so I'm gonna have my best friend there

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time. I perfect make sure my life is

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<v Speaker 1>like this. If my mom and my boyfriend and my

0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>best friend were not in my life, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>so down bad.

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That is genius. You have your best friend opening for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like sometimes when you bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>to like maybe even like your team's like really and

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm going to be vented on stable if

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't say yes to this, like just like trun.

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<v Speaker 2>The tour, Yeah, this is the best case scenario.

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's always even like so like can I bring all

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of my friends on the road? Like it's also pretty

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 1>fortunate that a lot of people I am friends with

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>also do music and they're like similar levels to me.

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So if I wanted to bring like my friend Alexander

0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 1>on the road, it's like, oh cool, Like yeah, he's

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.600
<v Speaker 1>super talent, Like we want to show people his music.

0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not like it's just a rando like who

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>is doing nothing?

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't do to me? He has like no skill. My

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend's like she can't dance, Like what do I do

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 2>with this?

0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like it's actually someone that is talented and bringing

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<v Speaker 1>benefit to the tour. So it just works out.

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.479
<v Speaker 2>Do you what's your when you go on tour? Star?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you?

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>It's very soon? Are you on a bus? What's your tour?

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 1>On a busy? Bus is full? I do not have

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<v Speaker 1>my own bus. It's not like that. I'm not famous

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like that, So we're all just on one.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people?

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Twelve eleven? Yeah?

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what bunk? Or do you have a

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:41.399
<v Speaker 2>are you? Do you know what bunk you don't know.

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I'm gonna rock a middle bunk. All right,

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna see he says, I'm gonna want middle.

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Yeah, So my girlfriend just got off her tour

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and she was on a bus with fifteen other people. Yeah,

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 2>and she's been asking people who are touring, like, what

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:02.239
<v Speaker 2>what bunked did? She had a horror. I think she

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 2>did top, but I actually think she's tough. I think

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 2>she did bottom too, And I just think it was

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>just a rough situation.

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>She feel bad for like obviously, because I'm the artist,

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I get to choose, so like you feel bad for

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>everyone else, and it's like, well if something gets taken,

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 1>like it's just like that sucks, Like you're just not

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna get the funk you want. I do feel bad

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that I don't have the pressure of walking and being like, oh,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>like I better not getting the top bunk. Like I

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>do get the privilege of being like cool, like I

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.359
<v Speaker 1>can pick and someone else is gonna have to move.

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>You're like, can we go on a test ride? And

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 2>like they just test each level.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>A different one every night just to know which one

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I liked the most.

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>You're like sorry to two other people. You won't be

0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>shuttled a night move. Thank you so much, thanks for

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>being here. Do you have a dream collab? Who's your

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm talking, you could call this person up. They're

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:59.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, yes, let's meet up. Who is that person?

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, I want to say JP Sachs, but like I

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.919
<v Speaker 1>already know I could. I think I could do that.

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I have friends with him and we do want to

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>like write together and stuff, So I feel like I

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:12.360
<v Speaker 1>need to say somebody else.

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be the saddest song ever written. Potably

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>it would be literally it could break it to be

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 2>about or something.

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, I see. I don't know because I feel like

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people I want to collab with

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 1>are like not the biggest artists in the world.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 2>That's okay, I was I literally thought you were gonna

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>say Taylor swe So I was like sure.

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I feel like everyone says, like the biggest

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 1>artist in the world. But I'm like, maybe, okay, maybe

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>actually Olivia Rodrigo I would be, or Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah,

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe Olivia. I if I could like compare my music

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>style of just like how I like to write, yea

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 1>like one artist that I would say is a huge artist,

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like the only person I could think of. I guess

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>it would be like Olivia, like maybe Adele. Like Adele's

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 1>is a lot more mature, like mine is very more

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>in the Olivia lane of yeah, teenage girl breakups and

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that.

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 2>But your sound is like Adele, like it's very mature

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's very it doesn't I don't think people like

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 2>if I were to listen to the album and had

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 2>no idea how old you are, I'd be like, oh,

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that's that could be that's Adele's younger counterparts. Yeah, but

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>then but I knew and and I think listening to

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 2>the album, hearing all the different levels of heartbreak and

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 2>sadness in different areas of your life, I'm like, we

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 2>need to check on this girl. She's doing Okay, I'm not.

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine. I'm one of those people that like I

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>could just be hit with like a million things and

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not fine, but I will continue to just like

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>keep going.

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>What wind your birthday?

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>September?

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? You're are you indecisive all the time?

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Really not with like career moves, Like I'm very like very.

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Much you know what you want?

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, here's the thing. So like when I I

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I want in my career and like how

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to live my life and what I want

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>in life like dream boards like everything, but like taking

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.159
<v Speaker 1>what food to eat too much a disaster, like I

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>will never I can't decide. I'm in decisive about things

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that don't matter. Okay, the things that matter. I'm like, no,

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I know what I want, Like you can't convince me otherwise.

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great thing. Yeah, I think the

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.719
<v Speaker 2>other way. I think I'm more. I think I know

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>more about what I want to eat than my life

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 2>big choices. So I would happily trade places with you

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 2>on that one. When's your boyfriend's birthday?

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I know his birthday? I was just like, pros question,

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>he is a Gemini?

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Interesting?

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Which like that he literally just gets bullied because he's

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>a Gemini. Okay, Like I met him and I was like,

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>what's your zoa excited? He didn't say anything, and I

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, you what is your zodiac about being weird?

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And then he was like no, like people always bully

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you're a Gemini. But then we

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>looked it up and Lee brand Geminis are like the

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>most compatible signs because they're both air signs. So how

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he's also like the opposite of a Gemini. Yeah, other geminis.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I know one girl that I went to school with,

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>she's a Gemini.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 2>I also think men and women like completely, it's so different,

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 2>really different. Yeah.

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because my boyfriend's like the kindest soul ever, Like

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>he's not two faced. He's very straightforward and how he

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>feels about things and like is the kindest person ever.

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>And the Gemini that I know is like not like that.

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>So they're very different. And that song is best Friend Breakup.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, she's not a Gemini.

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I always ask about signs, like I know so much

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know.

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything, and I just think I know.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just fun to ask, and I like to see

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>because I always like to see people's reactions.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I only know six, like six signs,

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>so someone will be like I'm a Capricorn. I'm like, oh,

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that one. There's like I only know

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the ones of whoever is like in my life, and

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, you're not a Libra or a Gemini.

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Cool. I feel mildly confident out about six out of twelve. Yes,

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I would say.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know like more than seven. I don't think

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>off the top of my head.

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of us for knowing them. Yeah, a lot.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot to keep up with. Yeah, what are

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 2>your when you are on? Like do you scroll? TikTok uh? Yeah,

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you're a scroller? You're not just a poster.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>No, I think you have to scroll to know what

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to post interesting. Yeah, I think it's really important. It's

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>even just in song with songwriting, to like be up

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to date of like what's going on socially. Like if

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>there's something going on the Internet where everyone's saying, oh,

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>this guy has green flags, I'm going to write a

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>song called like green Flags. Like, I think it's really

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>important even just as an artist though, to be like

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.959
<v Speaker 1>socially aware of what's going on emotionally with people.

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>So my girlfriend doesn't scroll, but she posts, but she

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know trends, So like I'll be like, oh, did

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>you see that's whatever? And so I feel like I

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 2>am her designated scroller. She's like, I don't even like

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>I a percentage from this girl. You're right, Yeah, I'm

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>going to bring that up. I was giving her ideas

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>today actually, so I'm going to bring that up. Thank

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>you so much for the fight that will be cause tonight. Sorry,

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.719
<v Speaker 2>what's your favorite What is your favorite song on this

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>new album?

0:30:28.120 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I have two? Okay, the first one is

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Bigger Person. Okay, yeah, that's song just like still to

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this day emotionally ruins me and do it all again.

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Are you comfortable talking about what what these are about?

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's Bigger Person about.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Bigger Person is about two people in my life that

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>constantly just can't get it together, and like, no matter what,

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>in order to have them in my life, I have

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to be the bigger person and bite my tongue on

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>every single situation. And if it was any other type

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>of person in my life, like it was just a friend,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>they would have been kicked out of the door so

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>many years ago. But like there's like even the lyric

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like it says you don't always choose the ones you love,

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 1>because like I don't have a choice to not love

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>these people, like I have to be the bigger person.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>And like also for the longest time, I was the

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>biggest people pleaser ever, so it's a very like I'll

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>be the bigger person, so I can stay in this

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>friendship or like stay in this relationship with these people,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and I still those people are still in my life.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>So that song every time it is like just I'm

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>an emotional mess. But do it all again? I don't.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't like tear up listening to it. Do It

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 1>All Again is just from the perspective of I got

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to the end of the album and realized if none

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>of those bad things happened to me, I wouldn't have

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my album, I wouldn't be with my current boyfriend, Like

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be in a happier place. And it was

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a think I think my ex kind

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of song, like thanks for looking up my life, yeah,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>because now I'm where I want to be.

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you said in the at the very beginning

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>we were saying that. I was like, who is this

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.640
<v Speaker 2>guy the regard and you were like, I would the

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff I put up with? What were the things that

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 2>you put up with?

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's just so sad, Like I just feel like the

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>way I was gas lit and stuff like that is

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>so crazy to think about. Like I'd be like, hey,

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like you know, we just got an argument and you

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>blocked me for five days like that, like not cool,

0:32:29.200 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and then they'd be like, oh, what's because you did this?

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like okay, and then just like move on.

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like that if my boyfriend ever blocked me, yeah, that.

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 2>Man would be like I would like he would be

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>thrown off the bridge, like a bridge.

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is not I would never ever do that

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to someone. And that's like a boundary of mind that

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's not appropriate if you can't have an

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>adult conversation with me about something, like you're not in

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>my life anymore. And just like so many little things

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>like that were like in arguments, I would just let

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 1>myself be talked down or made think that I was

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just like crazy or like a psycho for like being

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mad about something. And my boyfriend would never anytime I'm

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>upset about something, He'll just validate why I'm upset and

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, cool, that's reasonable, Like here's I didn't

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>mean to hurt your feelings, but I understand why you're

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>upset about what I said. And it's really sad that

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that's shocking for people in this world. But everything that

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>went wrong, I was just constantly convinced it was my fault.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Like when it wasn't and like, I'm now a very

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>big believer that like two people can be in the

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong at the exact same time, and there's never one

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>person right about any argument. It's always just about perspective.

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And I just feel like I was with someone that

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>always made me think I was just so crazy, a narcissist.

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>He was.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you go to therapy?

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I actually haven't been in like two months. Maybe. Yeah.

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I had something going in my personal life that was

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>like too much to deal with, and so I was like,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I can't go to therapy. Yeah.

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you're like I can't.

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I just can't, and I haven't rebooked it. Yeah, just

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>step away, and honest, we've actually just been so busy

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't had time. Yeah. So I don't know

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>when I was supposed to do it on tour, like

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe at the gym or something. But well, you're just

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>so you.

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 2>Talk about people pleasing, and I imagine when you were

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>with someone who treated you like that, there's that element

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>of people pleasing like I don't you know, I don't

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>want to be the bad person or or I need

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>to make sure they're okay. But that's a significant difference

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of the way you're speaking about yourself now and your relationship.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Now looking back, I don't even know who I was.

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes I wonder if my high school friends hung

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>out with me now, Like I think they would be

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>so shocked. Like I just feel I'm like the same

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>person when it comes to being outgoing and like funny

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>and like just the same me that like the way

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I look at things is so I'm embarrassed how I

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.879
<v Speaker 1>used to handle things.

0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I promise you're gonna have things that you continue to

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 2>look back on now and say the same thing, and

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 2>that's just, you know, part of the fun of life. Well,

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I am so excited for people to hear this album.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>It's so beautiful, and I I'm sorry that you went

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 2>through so many things like this, but I'm also like

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>so incredibly impressed with how you've turned it into such

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful piece of work. And I'm so excited for

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>your tour. And where can people follow you?

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? At R Smith pretty much every platform anywhere you

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>got your name Instagram to except Twitter. Twitter doesn't allow

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you to have more than sixteen characters, and my name

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>is more than sixteen characters. But it's fine, and that's

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>why I don't use Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Twitter, you

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>hear that other situation.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for scrumming in.

0:35:46.280 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 3>It was so great meeting you and talking with you.

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 2>You thought we were signing off, but I just found

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>out that you are a Gray's Anatomy fan.

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Rry, Like, I I saw them on the carpet and

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I started bawling my eyes out. Yeah I saw Ellen,

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, I saw them all. Actually I saw Okay,

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know the other people's real names, but

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Da Bailey, Richard, oh, I know. Alex was not there.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Schmidt was there, and I spoke to Schmidt.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's Jake Brelli.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Wilson was there.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Joe Wilson, Joe wils We had Camilla on our podcast.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 1>There is there was a few. There was like just

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 1>a nice little where was of them People's choice? Oh

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>my yeah, it was like one of the I still like,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I haven't watched Gray's Anatomy in like so

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>long because I met them. I was like, I just can't, like.

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I love them. So when did you start watching?

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Like when I was like thirteen or like twelve. Maybe

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I've watched the whole season, like every single season.

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Like you've watched that live or you like started binging it.

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I just started binging it over and over and over. Yeah,

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it. Sometimes there's so many videos of me,

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 1>like in the car with headphones on it. I'm just full,

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like sobbing at Derek's death. Like I watched the Derek's

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>death episode like an hour before I was supposed to

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>go on stage, and it's just me, Like you can

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>actually hear in the background of the video, Trevor's like, Okay,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we're going left here, and I'm in the

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>fact like what, like you just died, And everyone in

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.439
<v Speaker 1>my car is like is she okay? Like why would

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>she watch? But it's like I love it, like I

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>want like the pain, like I want to watch the

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>episode over and over and over to feel something.

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I could watch that one over

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and over again, like oh my god. Okay, So when

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Derek died spoiler alert to anyone who hasn't watched.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>It behind Okay, if people keep messaging my Instagram being

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>like you're spoiling Grays and I'm like, this is like

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a season five thing. If you haven't seen it by now,

0:37:58.719 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that's on you.

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Like this is a decade old. So literally I watched this.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like eleven.

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm like turning twenty. That's on you, not me,

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that you've had plenty of time, plenty of time. I

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was with my mom and I was on the couch

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.959
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like sobbing and she looks down and she goes,

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>are you okay? And I was like this has been

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend. I was like what And I was like

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.879
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I was to explain it. I felt

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like my boyfriend for however many years just died. And

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>it was the most brutal written, brutally written storyline.

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Every single person is like dead. I'm like, who, literally,

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 1>who's writing this storyline? Like? And then finally like Derek dies,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, cool, like Lucas my guy.

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Now, oh yeah sorry.

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like so shook when that happened because

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh cool, like just another person. And

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>now I'm just realizing in this moment, my biggest fear

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>in life is people in my life dying. And I

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.360
<v Speaker 1>think it might pay crazes well.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>And the most like cruel.

0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Thick way they get on al And I'm like, I

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>take planes all the time, and like Lexi and everyone

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like died in this plane crash, like Arizona has no

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>leg and every time I go in the air, I'm like,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>my leg's getting chopped off.

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, you really never know, but I don't. I

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>think I don't see the Gray's Anatomy storylines being in

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 2>your future.

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope putting that out there. We had

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a few of them, but oh yeah, it's fine.

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 2>What did you How did you feel about you've had

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 2>a few of those?

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You said, yeah, it's fine.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Are you okay? No, but it's fine, So you can

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 2>watch you can watch those episodes. I haven't, And you've

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 2>lived through certain yeah, tragedies as such.

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>There are some that are more recent than others that

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched it since I don't know if I can,

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>because I actually watched something on Queer Eye the other

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>day that was like a very similar situation. I was like,

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm done, Like I can't watch this episode, but I

0:39:58.080 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like one of my best friends passed away when I

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>was younger, and I've watched like Derek get hit by

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a car over and over, and I think that's why

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that episode for me is like just like a one

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and done and I have to skip it.

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Yeah, I don't know if I could

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, I feel like there's been a lot of

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>time since that one, you know, so I can watch Grays.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, what do you think? Do you feel like

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the old seasons are better? Like do you watch it

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 2>now and have like?

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it like depends because they've introduced so many

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 1>new characters. Yeah, that I love so many of the

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>new characters. I just feel like it like shifts into

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 1>a different show almost because the first fot like every

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>season with George, I was like I love him, like

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that's my person. And then when he when Christina left,

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, this show is like taking a

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>sideways to her and like she's not here anymore. But

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.439
<v Speaker 1>then the second like Alex and Joe started getting together,

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I like the show again, but

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>then then left fin Actually I think that episode ruins

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>me the most of that. I actually watched that not

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>that long ago, and I called my boyfriend and I

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, if you're with me for this many years

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and you leave me, I don't know what I'm gonna do,

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like watching and then Joe literally turns into like like

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a shell of herself and she's not even the same person.

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Like this is gonna be me, Like I'm gonna be

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 1>like super famous and then you're gonna leave me and

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be like the end of my career. No,

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.959
<v Speaker 1>it's I feel like everyone in this room hasn't seen

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Grays right now is so confused about what's happening. But

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like the most heartbreaking.

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 2>They're all texting that right now, like yeah you that

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 2>after after he left Joe, I was like, I don't

0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>want to watch this show anymore.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I obviously did, but I was very and then like

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 1>oh and then like they put Meredith with what's his nuts,

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:46.879
<v Speaker 1>the Megan guy, Rick oh Riggs. Yeah, and they put

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>her with him, and I loved her with him, and

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like wow, the first man like since Derek.

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>And then like Meghan came back and I was like, well,

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>good for Megan, but like, yeah, Meredith is like one

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>double double whammad on the like no man thing I.

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Haven't This is my confession, this is my truth. I

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>haven't like a single person that she's been with, sinceteric.

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 1>And who that new guy that she was I can't.

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't like him comfortable.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean, he looks like someone from my high

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>school and it makes me uncomfortable. Like I'm like you, I'm.

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Always like he seems angry. I don't get why we're

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<v Speaker 2>like this Minnesota.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, no effects, nothing will ever. It's just

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like he's from Minnesota, she's from Seattle. It's not it

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. Like it's not gonna work.

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's impossible.

0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't like And then like he just is

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like not, he's not it for her.

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I agree, But like the only high I felt for

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.719
<v Speaker 2>Meredith since death is when they were on the beach

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and he was a ghost.

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is what it was meant to be. And

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys just like ran him over with the truck.

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I liter was like, if Meredith dies, I'll be devastated,

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But if these episodes can continue with them on the

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 2>beach together, I'm I can handle it.

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.399
<v Speaker 1>And they then like once Alex left, then she had

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 1>no one and I was like, well, now the show

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is just like a bunch of like randos that were

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>added in like season eight, and I don't like that.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>And it's like now I just feel like she's a

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 2>teacher and I'm like, I don't feel like she has

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:20.439
<v Speaker 2>her own thing.

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she doesn't.

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 2>It's devastating. Yeah, we've been through a lot, fans, and

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 2>like that alone is reason to be in therapy. Yeah.

0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think people realize what we've been throught, and

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I get so emotional like the shooting episode, Like it's.

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, I remember having a lockdown at my school

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>life and I was like we're all gonna die, Like

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get shot in the heart and have this

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>whole thing like what Derek did in the hallway, because

0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out there and try and be the hero,

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like I everything that happens in my life. I'm like,

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that one episode where like.

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Sopis, you've really been through it all.

0:43:57.280 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that serious lockdown was not that's serious. It was

0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>like I mean the fact that I mean there was

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>like an entire squat teams running aund the school. But like,

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>turns out it was nothing. I don't think I think

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it was nothing. We didn't really get the full intel.

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But you know you go in lockdown sometimes even just

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for like practice, and you're like instantly scared.

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean it's episode Yeah.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's really silly. This is like off topic,

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>but I do think it's really silly that it's not

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>because it makes sense, but like how all the doors

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital would immediately lock and then like they'd

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>be looking for like kids or like trying to get

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>away from someone and the doors would be locked and

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they can't get out.

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 2>It's it's like like.

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Same with what was the episode where there was that

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>fire and there was a little girl and the doctor

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get the.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 2>That was Stephanie, right, So I actually loved she left.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I hate that.

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Avery left too.

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>That was that was a huge keep losing everyone, I

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>know what's wrong. But yeah that episode where like the

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.479
<v Speaker 1>door was locked and she was literally in the room

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>with like the like assaulter and then was like with

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this daughter and everything was on fire and I was like,

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all can't get these emergency doors unlocked, Like this is unbelievable,

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Like people are just dying because of like this safety

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>protocol that's been put in place.

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think I'm concerned for the writers at this point. Yeah,

0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of like the deep darkness that lives in their brains

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>that they're coming up with these things and like it's.

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, who should we kill off?

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeahday yeah, just like a casual day in the writer's room.

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they're like, oh, like should we kill Meredith?

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Not yet? Maybe Joe yeah yeah, yeah yeah what Well,

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 2>then it won't be Gray's Anatomy without Meredith. So who

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:36.239
<v Speaker 2>can who just can sacrifice?

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Give like a disease too? And You're like what, Also,

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>merediths home has almost died like twenty million And I'm like,

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not That's never happened to someone ever,

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Like you need to make it more reasonable.

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say every time we have we've had

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the Grace cast on the podcast, and

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I always ask, like, you know, Grace is known for

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.919
<v Speaker 2>people dying. If you could choose your death, what would

0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>it be? That's always one of my questions. And I'm like,

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that's that shouldn't be normal, but it is. It feels

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 2>very normal for me to ask that. Wow, I'm glad

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 2>we got to chat about that. Thank you, Thank you

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 2>so much for scrubbing in And I can't wait. Are

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 2>you gonna be in l A on the tour?

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I am? Is that? August seven?

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Great? You and Taylor swife both in the city.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm trying to go to that same week.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:28.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, she has like seven shows, so you just gotta

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a day off. Yeah. So great meeting you. You're such

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.919
<v Speaker 2>a joy. I'm so excited for you, and I feel

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like this is just the beginning and I'm so happy

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 2>this worked out.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.