1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rap An iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in, and by we, I 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: mean it's me and Easton in the building. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: I don't where is Tanya. I don't even know. I 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: don't know. I thought she'd be here and then no, No, 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: she's just a no show. But there was a reason 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: for it. I just can't remember. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: But it sounds very legit and real. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tanya doesn't miss if it's not important, so I'm 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: sure she's in her ludial phase or something and had 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: important things to tend to. But today we are joined 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: by a rising star in the music industry whose angelic 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: voice and heartfelt lyrics have captivated audiences around the world. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: She's best known for her groundbreaking hits such as Fingers 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: Crossed and Flowers, as well as being included on Billboard's 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: twenty one Under twenty one list. She's not only a 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: talented singer songwriter, but also a true inspiration to her fans, 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: encouraging them to embrace their authenticity and face life's challenges 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: head on. Not to mention she's only nineteen years old 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: and she's already accomplished so much. Please give a warm 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: welcome to Lauren Spencer Smeg. I'm so happy to meet you. 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: Me too. 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: I was telling you when you first got here that 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: I got to listen to your whole album that's coming 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: out in July. God, and it is amazing. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: I it's crazy to think that you have been through 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: so much at such a young age. When I'm listening 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: to the album, I'm like, Wow, there's a lot a 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: lot to UNA's written in a guitar. 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Second album coming. 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: You're like, I'm writing that right now, but you're in 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: a good place right now. Yah. 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: Well, I guess it depends what topic of life. Yes, 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: my boyfriend's amazing great. Other aspects, I'm not gonna say 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm great. Okay, there's room for there for my second album. 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: You know. I feel like as a my girlfriend's a musician, 39 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: and I feel like sometimes like the downs are what produce. 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: Oh that's right. 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: Like sometimes when I'm happy, I'm like, oh my god, 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to make music like. 43 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: What Well, I know that when you when you wrote 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: your your new single that part, everyone was kind of like, 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: we love the sad stuff, but any any chance for 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: like a hopeful love song. 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've been getting asked that a lot, 48 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: And then we finally wrote one. 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: How long have you been with your boyfriend? 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: A year and a half? I guess, like officially, yeah. 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Who was the heartbreak? Like when did that happen? 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: It Like we didn't even date. It was like such 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: a non serious thing. That's why it's so embarrassing. It's 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: really embarrassing to look back and now that I'm in 55 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: like a healthy relationship and just like realize, like what 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: I thought was love and what I was putting up 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: with We don't need to name names. 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: But in the past, yea, he is in the past. 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: Yeah we got a hit song. 60 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's worth it. But yeah, it wasn't a 61 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: real If my boyfriend now broke up with me, I 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: don't even know what I would do with myself, Like 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: I thought that, oh and me emotionally and I don't 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: even I can't mentally handle my boyfriend ever leaving me 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: and he knows, so he won't. 66 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Okay, glad y'all all have that pet because we do. 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: I feel like I was thinking about this because I 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: feel like we go through heartbreak our whole life, and 69 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: it feels like the biggest thing in the world at 70 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: that moment. Right, Like you're young and you have your 71 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: first ever crush and it's devastating, but then you experience 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: your next crush and you're like, well that was nothing. 73 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: So it's like, is that just how it continues? 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of scary, say, I've already met it, it's 75 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: so made at nineteen great, but I'm kids can get 76 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: married him. 77 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: How did you all meet? 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: We met at the gym? Oh wow, we kind of 79 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: like I already kind of knew him ish from the 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: gym when I started talking to him, but like literally 81 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: the first time he texted me, I was like, I 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: love him. I'm gonna marry him. I told all my friends, like, 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: and I had not even had a full conversation with him, 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: Like he just texted me one thing that was funny, 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: and I was like, love him, obsessed, And then I 86 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: talked to him for like weeks on end, and I 87 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: came back from a trip and I had like twelve 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: hours on the island home before I had to go 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: to Europe for two months and hang out with him 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: once and was like, this is gonna have to be 91 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: long distance, but we knew we liked each other, like 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: just from hanging out once, and then we did long 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: distance for like two months, and then when I finally 94 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: came back, he was like, Okay, now I can ask 95 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you to be my girlfriend. Because I didn't want to 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: ask you over text or FaceTime because he waited to 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: be in person. I was annoyed. It was like, it's 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: cute because you're like wow, like you're such a gentleman, 99 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: But like I had to tell people we've been dating 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: for a year and a half instead of year and 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: eight months, and that's really frustrating for me. 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: You can tell me a year and eight Yes, I 103 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: get it. Yeah, that's like my girlfriend. We met in April, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: and like in my mind, from the first moment we met, 105 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: we were together the. 106 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Same I say, we started like we've always been together 107 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: in two. 108 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Years and in August, So April to August that's a 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: good chunk of times. She goes, are you gonna ask 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: me to be your girlfriend? And I go, are we 111 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: not girling where we were? And she's like, well you 112 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: have to ask me. I'm like, well, you've been in 113 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: a relationship with woman before. I haven't done that, So 114 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: like I didn't know that was part of the rules. 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was just established together. So 116 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: so now when we celebrate our anniversary, I'm like, I'm 117 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: not doing. 118 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Everyone I talked to has that same story. Like my 119 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: best friend too is like Ben says, we've been dating 120 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: for this long, but we've actually been dating for this long. 121 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Like it's everyone really complicated. Yeah, but we're all happy. 122 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: That's that's the main It's fine. The main thing. 123 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: We're still together, so it's fine. 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: I wish so my co host Tanya, she was out today, 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: but I wish she was here because we were talking 126 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: about the song that part and she was like, I 127 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: feel like that's me. That's she said, I feel like 128 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: that's me right now because she's like waiting to get engaged, 129 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: so she's like ready for the next part. And I'm like, Tanya, 130 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: that song has been your whole relationship. Yeah, I think 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: was like, when are we getting to the next phase? 132 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: You know? 133 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: No, that's honestly really what the song is about. Like 134 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people have interpreted it 135 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, Lauren wants to get engaged right now, 136 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: which like I do, but it's just been like the 137 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: story of since day one, I've wanted to get engaged, 138 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: like I want to marry you, and I've always felt 139 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: that way from like day one, so it's like kind 140 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: of just having that feeling from day one, not necessarily 141 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: like we're actually getting engaged right now. 142 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: Is he your first love? 143 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I think I guess. I don't know, because 144 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: what we were just talking about makes it seem like 145 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: seventeen year old me would have been like no, like 146 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: this was my first love. But now I'm like, okay, 147 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: that was like nothing. I was a child, Like this 148 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: feels like it is my first love. But I also 149 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: hate saying that because and everyone says, like, you leave 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: your first love. 151 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: So I hate when I see that stuff because I 152 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: had never been in love before I met my girlfriend. 153 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: So when we met, she's my first love. She's not 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: my first relationship. She's the first time I've been in love. 155 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: And then people will be like the first heartbreak is your. 156 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: First love, and I'm like, and I know if I 157 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: would jump off a bridge if I broke. 158 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: Up, No, no, no, we need good music. You can't just 159 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: jump off a bridge. We got to have like they would, 160 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: I would not. 161 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like I tell you right now, I am 162 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: dead if Matt breaks up with me. A lot of 163 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: pressure on his shoulders. 164 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Matt, if you're hearing this, if you're listening. 165 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: To, don't break up with me, babe, everyone else needs 166 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: you to not break up with me. 167 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: We need you, Matt. 168 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. I don't like saying that 169 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: because there's that like myth about it. 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: No. No, no, yeah, we're good. We're good. Does he 171 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: is he your age or y'all both? 172 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 3: No? 173 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: No, he's four years older than me. 174 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Actually, so when y'all started dating basically long distance 175 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: and you had these intense feelings for him, how was that, 176 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: because that long distance is no joke. 177 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very like for months, I just thought 178 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: he was going to break up with me and that 179 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: he didn't want to be with someone who's traveling all 180 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: the time. And like he says, he likes it now, 181 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: but this is just the honeymoon phase. But my boyfriend 182 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: is very reassuring. Like even like the other day, I 183 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: had forgotten that we even do long distance because it's 184 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: just like how our life is, so it's so normal, 185 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, Babe, I think I need to 186 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: thank you again. Because like no one else would be 187 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: willing to date someone who just like constantly is all 188 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: of the world, like, hey, I'm going away for six weeks, 189 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: like you're not going to see me, and he's just 190 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: like one hundred percent completely fine with it, and he's 191 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: always been like that from day one. But I knew 192 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: he felt the same way back, so I I overthought 193 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: all the time, but I did know deep down that 194 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: he felt the same way. So I was like, Okay, yeah. 195 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: You felt safe. Yeah, I'm going to tell my girlfriend 196 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: that she needs to start thanking me a little bit 197 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: more with her while she's traveling around the world. 198 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: It's like a lot to add. Like I genuinely thought 199 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: I was going to be single till I was like 200 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: forty and just like adopt a kid by myself because 201 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: I was like, nobody will ever want to be with 202 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: an artist. It's like the most complicated lifestyle to have 203 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: to be with, Like you can't do normal things like 204 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: me and my boyfriend want to get a dog and 205 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: we're like, well, you're not famous enough to get a 206 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: dog because like you're not on an arena tour. But 207 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: like if you're on an arena tour, like you can 208 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: bring the dog, you have an assistant to look after 209 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: the dog, like all those things, and then like you 210 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: just can't do normal Yeah, well things like if even 211 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: if I wanted to have kids at like twenty five, 212 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: like I can't. That's probably like peak arena tour moment. 213 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm not having kids in the middle of that. Like, 214 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: there's so many things that I feel like in my 215 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: eyes of what I want my life to be, like 216 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: I want to do things with my career first, and 217 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: like he I'm very thankful that he's just completely fine 218 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: with all of it. 219 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, you do have to think of things differently, Like 220 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: you do have to think of things in a different 221 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: timeline than people who have a traditional job or have 222 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: traditional schedules, because you're able to be like, Okay, if 223 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: I'm gone, you can watch the dog whatever. But you're 224 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: like I'm always doing that. 225 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm always gone, And like I just feel like you 226 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: miss The only holiday that I feel like I can 227 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: always guarantee I'll probably be home for is like Christmas, 228 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: and that's probably only because I'm very like I want 229 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: to be home for Christmas. But like you missed like 230 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: so many birthdays and just so many things that are 231 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: like important to every person usually, and they just have 232 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: to be like completely okay with that. 233 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I've known who you are 234 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: for a long time and known your songs and your 235 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: your TikTok and everything. But for those who don't know 236 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: about you or your story, when did things become not 237 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: normal for you? Like when did you have that moment 238 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: of going like, oh, it's happening. 239 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. My Fingers Crossed came out because I tease 240 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: Fingers Crossed in November, but it didn't come out until January. 241 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: It's a very long teasing period. 242 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Wait was that just this last year? 243 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: It was twenty twenty two? 244 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Oh so last last November? 245 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: It camest it November twenty twenty one. 246 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: Oh nouh gotcha? 247 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay January thirty twenty two. Okay, So like I guess almost, 248 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: I guess a year and a half ago. Actually, yeah, 249 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: even when I was teasing it, I didn't think I 250 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: knew it was big, but I had teased stuff before. 251 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I didn't do as well as Fingers Crossed, but I 252 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: just thought, oh, i'll put it out. Yeah, maybe I'll 253 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: make some money. Great, I'll stay living in my house 254 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: like it, I'll be wonderful. And then like the second 255 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: it came out, like I got a call that was 256 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: like it's number one on this This isn't this like 257 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: we're finding you to New York tomorrow at like five 258 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: in the morning, and I was. 259 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,359 Speaker 2: Like what, Oh my god. I hit it to myself. 260 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: And like from then it was just like meeting with 261 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: labels and doing and ever since, I feel like I've 262 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: not been home for more than two weeks. 263 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: At a time. I mean, it's so exciting to have 264 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: that happen because I feel like a lot of people, 265 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: especially when you have a viral moment, it's like the 266 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: fear of like will this continue after this song and 267 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: you've had You've maintained it. You Like I was looking 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: at your TikTok right before you walked in, and I'm like, 269 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: you still have people that are like more and more 270 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: and more, like they're always wanting more. 271 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's terrifying when fingers Cross blew up. I didn't 272 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: think about that instantly, I cause I I didn't have 273 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: in my head that I was putting out another song 274 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: for like a while. But the second I started to 275 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: put out new music, I was like, oh God, like 276 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: maybe my success is in the past, like how am 277 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: I gonna maintain this? And even for a while after 278 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: Flowers came out, like I just I have not had 279 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: a song do as well as Fingers Crossing Flowers ever 280 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: since they came out, and I was like, I'm a failure, 281 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: like my rears over and my good days are in 282 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: or behind me. And then like that part started to 283 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: do kind of mood. I was like, I'm back, It's okay. 284 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be successful one day. 285 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: That's a roller coaster, yeah, And I am trying to 286 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: think of I'm thinking of myself. I'm thirty four, so 287 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: myself at your like myself right now. I don't know 288 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: that I could handle that. Yeah, So I think of 289 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: myself at nineteen and thinking of that pressure that I 290 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 2: would put on myself of like can I do it again? 291 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Do people care? 292 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 293 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Or do they care about what I have to say? 294 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: But people are obsessed with you. They love you like 295 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: you're just You'll just be singing in a parking garage 296 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: and because you're always like you could. You're one of 297 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: those people who could sing the alphabet and people would 298 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: be like, that's amazing, undone, We've never heard it before 299 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: because your voice is so good. But I've always wondered 300 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: what it was like to have that type of success 301 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: in like such an instant and then and then be 302 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: able to maintain it is like, really an incredible thing 303 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: that you've been able to do. You have a song 304 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: on there about It's called twenty eight. 305 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: Oh God, I'm just curious. 306 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: So I was listening to it and I was like, 307 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: this is this about, Oh, it's about your your dad. 308 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 309 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: Dating. 310 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I've had so many people ask me this, and every 311 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: time I'm like. 312 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: No. 313 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, for people who are in the same situation, 314 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: they know what it's about. And then there's all the 315 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: people who have like their parents are together, or like 316 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: their mom or dad have never dated anybody else, so 317 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: they would have no idea what it's about. And for 318 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: those people, I just never talk because I'm like, I'm 319 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: just glad you don't know what I'm going through, honestly, 320 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: But everyone who has been through it is like, oh, 321 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: I know exactly what this is about. 322 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: Have they heard it? 323 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 324 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 325 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: I feel like they I've never met her. Still the 326 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: main thing, Honestly, I debated putting that song up for 327 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: so long, Like I mean, I could start crying talking 328 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: about it. 329 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: Right. 330 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I debated for so long, being like what are the 331 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: pros of putting us out? What are the cons? Because 332 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: I feel like when you're a songwriter, you write so 333 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: many songs about people, but like they're not in your 334 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: life anymore, right, so you're like, I don't give yeah, 335 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: but like when you're actually writing about like there's so 336 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: many songs I've written that I just tell people there 337 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: about relationships and like they're about somebody that maybe is 338 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: still in my life in this moment, because I don't 339 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: want to hurt that person's feelings. But it was such 340 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: a direct thing that I was like, ooh, this is 341 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: going to be so obvious if I put it out, 342 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: which I will say, I probably put it out. You 343 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: know when they say you should wait till you're over 344 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: it to make like a rash decision, right, Like I'm 345 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: still not over it. So I just decided to put 346 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: it out, like in a moment of still being upset 347 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, which I don't know if in five 348 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: years if I'm gonna regret that, but I will say 349 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: they have definitely heard it and they're not stokes that. 350 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: It is out. I will say that I think that 351 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: sometimes there's things where there's fear in releasing something. But 352 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: the thing is is you can look back and be like, wonder, 353 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: how will I feel about releasing this, But yeah, it's 354 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: what you're going through now, and what you're going through 355 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: now happened, whether there's something good happens from it, or 356 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: if it just stays where it's like not a great situation, 357 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, this is happening right now, and 358 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: their feelings happen right now. 359 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: So when I started teasing it, I still hadn't decided like, oh, 360 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: should I put this out or should just be like 361 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: a one video thing? And then after I started teasing it, 362 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: every single person was commenting like, oh, like my stepmom's 363 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: only like ten years older than me, Like there's not 364 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: a song about this. And then I started seeing like 365 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: literally millions of people commenting the exact same thing, and 366 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was like totally alone and just being 367 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: over dramatic, like majority of my families, like Lawrence being 368 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: over dramatic, this is ridiculous, and I'm like, I'm not 369 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: being over dramatic. This is weird, like and like the 370 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: story was never like this is just weird to me, 371 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm allowed to feel weird about it, Like I 372 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: don't feel weird about it and still accept it and 373 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: just be like this is weird. Yeah, And there were 374 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: so many just like young kids that I feel like, 375 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: especially in situations like this at the end of the day, 376 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: like you want everyone to be happy, but like I 377 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: feel like you don't blame your parents for this, but 378 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: like they obviously just make decisions when they want to 379 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: be happy as well. And I think a lot of 380 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: the people who relate to this song their parents made 381 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a decision when they were younger that they didn't even 382 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: realize would affect their kids until their kids became a teenager, 383 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, I'm hanging out with someone 384 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: that's like six years older than me, and my stepmom's 385 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: only six years older than me. And you didn't realize 386 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: it was weird when you were a kid until you 387 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: got older. But the second I saw everybody, what are 388 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: you relating to it? I was like, I have to 389 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: put this out now. Now I feel obligated to be 390 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for this situation. 391 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: I think sometimes we also forget our parents are humans, yeah, 392 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: going through life for the first time too. 393 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: The older I get, the more I forgive my parents 394 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: for things. There's some things that, like even the situation 395 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: at hand is forgivable, but like the way the situation 396 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: went about, I'm like, I wouldn't do it that way. 397 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: But I've also made so many mistakes in life that 398 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: the older I get, I'm like, oh, I see why 399 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: my mom did that, or oh I see when my 400 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: dad did that. 401 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's things, like a lot of things 402 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: I'll go it's forgivable, but I am not so quick 403 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: to forget it. 404 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm not forgetting. Honestly, I'm probably not 405 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: even forgiving. I'm just like, we're just gonna be like 406 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: super passive about it and just move on, because I 407 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: guess I have to move on from this in order 408 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: to keep you in my life, and I will not forget. Like, 409 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: if you piss me off in six months, I'm gonna 410 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: rebring this up, probably in the. 411 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: Argument playing blast this song yeah in the background. When 412 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: you decide to tease music, how is there like a 413 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: system to it or is there a way that you 414 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: do it? That's what I'm trying to ask. Is is 415 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: it like a calculated thing that you do or is 416 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: it just I love this song and I want to 417 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: tease I think people are gonna like it. 418 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of both Okay. I get 419 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: like gut feelings about songs, and I'm like, this has 420 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: to be out. I love this, this is fire, Like 421 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: this is the most relatable thing I've ever written. I 422 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: go on like crazy, I need to put this out. 423 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: Modes of things. I will say sometimes I think a 424 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: song is good and like I wrote it for a 425 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: therapeutic reason that if I don't think it's one hundred 426 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: percent relatable to a lot of people, I won't always 427 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: be the first song that I choose. I might still 428 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: put it on my album, but like, if it's not 429 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the most relatable, it might not be the next thing 430 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: that I pick. I do try to have some type 431 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: of reason as to why I think other people would 432 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: relate to it before I tease it. But I do 433 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: normally like most of the songs I write, so I'm 434 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: never gonna be unhappy like picking one or the other. 435 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the whole album is so good, 436 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: and in my mind, I'm thinking what song is on 437 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: there that people don't relate to? Like you want a 438 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: song about a best friend breakup, which there's not many 439 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: songs about that, Like I think we hear so many 440 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: songs about romantic breakups, but it's a song about your 441 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: best friend. Ultimately, I'm dating someone and friend anyone. Yeah, 442 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: do you do you feel like you are that friend ever? 443 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: Like now that you're in a relationship where. 444 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: You're I'm like, I think my best friend relates to 445 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: the best friend breakup from my I literally think about 446 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: it all the time. I'm like, oh, I totally did 447 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: that to my friends, like I should probably I probably 448 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: owe the person who I wrote best and makeup about 449 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: and apology for the way that I act in my relationship. 450 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: But now that I'm older and I'm not friends with 451 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: that person anymore, Like a lot of the song was 452 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: written from like no hatred, Like it was just like, wow, 453 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: that's really crazy. I know their middle name, I know 454 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: everything about them, and like I see her in the 455 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: store and we just have an awkward conversation as if 456 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: we don't know each other. Like there was no like, oh, 457 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: I'm still mad about this. Obviously when I was like 458 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen, I was pissed, but now I look 459 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: back and being like, oh, okay, I get it, Like 460 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: it's fine, Like I hope you're happy in your relationship, 461 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: but I feel like sometimes in my situation it's a 462 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: little bit different because I started dating Matt literally right 463 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: as I started teasing fingers crossed, So my life also 464 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: has something different, which also stops me from being able 465 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: to have normal friendships with people. Yeah, and like there's 466 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: a lot of friends I used to have, but I 467 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: just can't be friends with them anymore because it was 468 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: like a high maintenance friendship, like we hung out every 469 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: single day, we always talk to each other, and now 470 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: like you just have to be cool that I don't 471 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: answer the phone for five days because I'm so busy 472 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: and I can't, in my ten seconds of peace be like, oh, 473 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: what's going on with them today? Like I just have 474 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: to sit alone in silence and be like everything's gonna 475 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: be fine. So I feel like my situation is a 476 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: little bit different. I try to balance it, but it 477 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: is true. You just end up being with your partner 478 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: more than impress else. 479 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, how do you manage that? Because 480 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: does it get lonely when you're like let's say you're 481 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: gone and you don't have your friends and Matt's busy, 482 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: But what do you do. 483 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm probably just depressed. I will say I'm pretty fortunate, 484 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: Like my mom comes a lot of places with me. 485 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: That's great. 486 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: My boyfriend actually comes a decent amount, probably more than 487 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: like other people that I know. I'm also pretty fortunate 488 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: that my boyfriend's job is not like him needing to 489 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: be somewhere constantly all the time, so he can and 490 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: has the ability to come and be with me. I'm 491 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: also pretty close with like everyone that I have to 492 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: do starts with my guitarist, like my videographer. Like I 493 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: would say those people are my friends and I would 494 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: hang out with them, so I wouldn't say I probably 495 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: get as lonely as other people. And like this tour, 496 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: my best friend, who I wrote majority of my album with, 497 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: is opening, so I'm gonna have my best friend there 498 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: the entire time. I perfect make sure my life is 499 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: like this. If my mom and my boyfriend and my 500 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: best friend were not in my life, I would be 501 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: so down bad. 502 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: That is genius. You have your best friend opening for you. 503 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: And I feel like sometimes when you bring it up 504 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: to like maybe even like your team's like really and 505 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm going to be vented on stable if 506 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: you don't say yes to this, like just like trun. 507 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: The tour, Yeah, this is the best case scenario. 508 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: It's always even like so like can I bring all 509 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: of my friends on the road? Like it's also pretty 510 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: fortunate that a lot of people I am friends with 511 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: also do music and they're like similar levels to me. 512 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: So if I wanted to bring like my friend Alexander 513 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: on the road, it's like, oh cool, Like yeah, he's 514 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: super talent, Like we want to show people his music. 515 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Like it's not like it's just a rando like who 516 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: is doing nothing? 517 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: Doesn't do to me? He has like no skill. My 518 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: girlfriend's like she can't dance, Like what do I do 519 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: with this? 520 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's actually someone that is talented and bringing 521 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: benefit to the tour. So it just works out. 522 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: Do you what's your when you go on tour? Star? 523 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Are you? 524 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 525 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: It's very soon? Are you on a bus? What's your tour? 526 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: On a busy? Bus is full? I do not have 527 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: my own bus. It's not like that. I'm not famous 528 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: like that, So we're all just on one. 529 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: How many people? 530 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Twelve eleven? Yeah? 531 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what bunk? Or do you have a 532 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: are you? Do you know what bunk you don't know. 533 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm gonna rock a middle bunk. All right, 534 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna see he says, I'm gonna want middle. 535 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, So my girlfriend just got off her tour 536 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: and she was on a bus with fifteen other people. Yeah, 537 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: and she's been asking people who are touring, like, what 538 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 2: what bunked did? She had a horror. I think she 539 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: did top, but I actually think she's tough. I think 540 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: she did bottom too, And I just think it was 541 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: just a rough situation. 542 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: She feel bad for like obviously, because I'm the artist, 543 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I get to choose, so like you feel bad for 544 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: everyone else, and it's like, well if something gets taken, 545 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: like it's just like that sucks, Like you're just not 546 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna get the funk you want. I do feel bad 547 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: that I don't have the pressure of walking and being like, oh, 548 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: like I better not getting the top bunk. Like I 549 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: do get the privilege of being like cool, like I 550 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: can pick and someone else is gonna have to move. 551 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: You're like, can we go on a test ride? And 552 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: like they just test each level. 553 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: A different one every night just to know which one 554 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: I liked the most. 555 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: You're like sorry to two other people. You won't be 556 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: shuttled a night move. Thank you so much, thanks for 557 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: being here. Do you have a dream collab? Who's your 558 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm talking, you could call this person up. They're 559 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: gonna say, yes, let's meet up. Who is that person? 560 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: Like, I want to say JP Sachs, but like I 561 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: already know I could. I think I could do that. 562 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I have friends with him and we do want to 563 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: like write together and stuff, So I feel like I 564 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: need to say somebody else. 565 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: I think that'd be the saddest song ever written. Potably 566 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 2: it would be literally it could break it to be 567 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: about or something. 568 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: Hmmm, I see. I don't know because I feel like 569 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the people I want to collab with 570 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: are like not the biggest artists in the world. 571 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: That's okay, I was I literally thought you were gonna 572 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: say Taylor swe So I was like sure. 573 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like everyone says, like the biggest 574 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: artist in the world. But I'm like, maybe, okay, maybe 575 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: actually Olivia Rodrigo I would be, or Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, 576 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: maybe Olivia. I if I could like compare my music 577 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: style of just like how I like to write, yea 578 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: like one artist that I would say is a huge artist, 579 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: like the only person I could think of. I guess 580 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: it would be like Olivia, like maybe Adele. Like Adele's 581 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: is a lot more mature, like mine is very more 582 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: in the Olivia lane of yeah, teenage girl breakups and 583 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. 584 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: But your sound is like Adele, like it's very mature 585 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: and it's very it doesn't I don't think people like 586 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: if I were to listen to the album and had 587 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: no idea how old you are, I'd be like, oh, 588 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: that's that could be that's Adele's younger counterparts. Yeah, but 589 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: then but I knew and and I think listening to 590 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: the album, hearing all the different levels of heartbreak and 591 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: sadness in different areas of your life, I'm like, we 592 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: need to check on this girl. She's doing Okay, I'm not. 593 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I'm one of those people that like I 594 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: could just be hit with like a million things and 595 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm not fine, but I will continue to just like 596 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: keep going. 597 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: What wind your birthday? 598 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: September? 599 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? You're are you indecisive all the time? 600 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: Really not with like career moves, Like I'm very like very. 601 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: Much you know what you want? 602 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, here's the thing. So like when I I 603 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: know what I want in my career and like how 604 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: I want to live my life and what I want 605 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: in life like dream boards like everything, but like taking 606 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: what food to eat too much a disaster, like I 607 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: will never I can't decide. I'm in decisive about things 608 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: that don't matter. Okay, the things that matter. I'm like, no, 609 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: I know what I want, Like you can't convince me otherwise. 610 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a great thing. Yeah, I think the 611 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 2: other way. I think I'm more. I think I know 612 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: more about what I want to eat than my life 613 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 2: big choices. So I would happily trade places with you 614 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: on that one. When's your boyfriend's birthday? 615 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: I know his birthday? I was just like, pros question, 616 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: he is a Gemini? 617 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: Interesting? 618 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Which like that he literally just gets bullied because he's 619 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: a Gemini. Okay, Like I met him and I was like, 620 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: what's your zoa excited? He didn't say anything, and I 621 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: was like, okay, you what is your zodiac about being weird? 622 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: And then he was like no, like people always bully 623 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: and I was like, you're a Gemini. But then we 624 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: looked it up and Lee brand Geminis are like the 625 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: most compatible signs because they're both air signs. So how 626 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: he's also like the opposite of a Gemini. Yeah, other geminis. 627 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: I know one girl that I went to school with, 628 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: she's a Gemini. 629 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 2: I also think men and women like completely, it's so different, 630 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: really different. Yeah. 631 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because my boyfriend's like the kindest soul ever, Like 632 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: he's not two faced. He's very straightforward and how he 633 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: feels about things and like is the kindest person ever. 634 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: And the Gemini that I know is like not like that. 635 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: So they're very different. And that song is best Friend Breakup. 636 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, she's not a Gemini. 637 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: I always ask about signs, like I know so much 638 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: but I don't know. 639 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't know anything, and I just think I know. 640 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: It's just fun to ask, and I like to see 641 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: because I always like to see people's reactions. 642 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I only know six, like six signs, 643 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: so someone will be like I'm a Capricorn. I'm like, oh, 644 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that one. There's like I only know 645 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: the ones of whoever is like in my life, and 646 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you're not a Libra or a Gemini. 647 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: Cool. I feel mildly confident out about six out of twelve. Yes, 648 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: I would say. 649 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't know like more than seven. I don't think 650 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. 651 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: I'm proud of us for knowing them. Yeah, a lot. 652 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: It's a lot to keep up with. Yeah, what are 653 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: your when you are on? Like do you scroll? TikTok uh? Yeah, 654 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: you're a scroller? You're not just a poster. 655 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: No, I think you have to scroll to know what 656 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: to post interesting. Yeah, I think it's really important. It's 657 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: even just in song with songwriting, to like be up 658 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: to date of like what's going on socially. Like if 659 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: there's something going on the Internet where everyone's saying, oh, 660 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: this guy has green flags, I'm going to write a 661 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: song called like green Flags. Like, I think it's really 662 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: important even just as an artist though, to be like 663 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: socially aware of what's going on emotionally with people. 664 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: So my girlfriend doesn't scroll, but she posts, but she 665 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: doesn't know trends, So like I'll be like, oh, did 666 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: you see that's whatever? And so I feel like I 667 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: am her designated scroller. She's like, I don't even like 668 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: I a percentage from this girl. You're right, Yeah, I'm 669 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: going to bring that up. I was giving her ideas 670 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: today actually, so I'm going to bring that up. Thank 671 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: you so much for the fight that will be cause tonight. Sorry, 672 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 2: what's your favorite What is your favorite song on this 673 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: new album? 674 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: I think I have two? Okay, the first one is 675 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Bigger Person. Okay, yeah, that's song just like still to 676 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: this day emotionally ruins me and do it all again. 677 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: Are you comfortable talking about what what these are about? 678 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 679 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: Okay, what's Bigger Person about. 680 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Bigger Person is about two people in my life that 681 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: constantly just can't get it together, and like, no matter what, 682 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: in order to have them in my life, I have 683 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: to be the bigger person and bite my tongue on 684 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: every single situation. And if it was any other type 685 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: of person in my life, like it was just a friend, 686 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they would have been kicked out of the door so 687 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: many years ago. But like there's like even the lyric 688 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: like it says you don't always choose the ones you love, 689 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: because like I don't have a choice to not love 690 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: these people, like I have to be the bigger person. 691 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: And like also for the longest time, I was the 692 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: biggest people pleaser ever, so it's a very like I'll 693 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: be the bigger person, so I can stay in this 694 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: friendship or like stay in this relationship with these people, 695 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: and I still those people are still in my life. 696 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: So that song every time it is like just I'm 697 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: an emotional mess. But do it all again? I don't. 698 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't like tear up listening to it. Do It 699 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: All Again is just from the perspective of I got 700 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: to the end of the album and realized if none 701 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: of those bad things happened to me, I wouldn't have 702 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: my album, I wouldn't be with my current boyfriend, Like 703 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in a happier place. And it was 704 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of like a think I think my ex kind 705 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: of song, like thanks for looking up my life, yeah, 706 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: because now I'm where I want to be. 707 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you said in the at the very beginning 708 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: we were saying that. I was like, who is this 709 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: guy the regard and you were like, I would the 710 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: stuff I put up with? What were the things that 711 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: you put up with? 712 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: That's just so sad, Like I just feel like the 713 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: way I was gas lit and stuff like that is 714 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: so crazy to think about. Like I'd be like, hey, 715 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: like you know, we just got an argument and you 716 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: blocked me for five days like that, like not cool, 717 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and then they'd be like, oh, what's because you did this? 718 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: And I'd be like okay, and then just like move on. 719 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like that if my boyfriend ever blocked me, yeah, that. 720 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,479 Speaker 2: Man would be like I would like he would be 721 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: thrown off the bridge, like a bridge. 722 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not I would never ever do that 723 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: to someone. And that's like a boundary of mind that 724 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not appropriate if you can't have an 725 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: adult conversation with me about something, like you're not in 726 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: my life anymore. And just like so many little things 727 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: like that were like in arguments, I would just let 728 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: myself be talked down or made think that I was 729 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: just like crazy or like a psycho for like being 730 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: mad about something. And my boyfriend would never anytime I'm 731 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: upset about something, He'll just validate why I'm upset and 732 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: be like, oh, cool, that's reasonable, Like here's I didn't 733 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: mean to hurt your feelings, but I understand why you're 734 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: upset about what I said. And it's really sad that 735 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: that's shocking for people in this world. But everything that 736 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: went wrong, I was just constantly convinced it was my fault. 737 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: Like when it wasn't and like, I'm now a very 738 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: big believer that like two people can be in the 739 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: wrong at the exact same time, and there's never one 740 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: person right about any argument. It's always just about perspective. 741 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: And I just feel like I was with someone that 742 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: always made me think I was just so crazy, a narcissist. 743 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: He was. 744 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: Do you go to therapy? 745 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I actually haven't been in like two months. Maybe. Yeah. 746 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: I had something going in my personal life that was 747 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: like too much to deal with, and so I was like, 748 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I can't go to therapy. Yeah. 749 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're like I can't. 750 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: I just can't, and I haven't rebooked it. Yeah, just 751 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: step away, and honest, we've actually just been so busy 752 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: that I haven't had time. Yeah. So I don't know 753 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: when I was supposed to do it on tour, like 754 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: maybe at the gym or something. But well, you're just 755 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: so you. 756 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 2: Talk about people pleasing, and I imagine when you were 757 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: with someone who treated you like that, there's that element 758 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: of people pleasing like I don't you know, I don't 759 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: want to be the bad person or or I need 760 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: to make sure they're okay. But that's a significant difference 761 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: of the way you're speaking about yourself now and your relationship. 762 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: Now looking back, I don't even know who I was. 763 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: Like sometimes I wonder if my high school friends hung 764 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: out with me now, Like I think they would be 765 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: so shocked. Like I just feel I'm like the same 766 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: person when it comes to being outgoing and like funny 767 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: and like just the same me that like the way 768 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: I look at things is so I'm embarrassed how I 769 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: used to handle things. 770 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: I promise you're gonna have things that you continue to 771 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: look back on now and say the same thing, and 772 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: that's just, you know, part of the fun of life. Well, 773 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 2: I am so excited for people to hear this album. 774 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: It's so beautiful, and I I'm sorry that you went 775 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: through so many things like this, but I'm also like 776 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: so incredibly impressed with how you've turned it into such 777 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: a beautiful piece of work. And I'm so excited for 778 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: your tour. And where can people follow you? 779 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? At R Smith pretty much every platform anywhere you 780 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: got your name Instagram to except Twitter. Twitter doesn't allow 781 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: you to have more than sixteen characters, and my name 782 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: is more than sixteen characters. But it's fine, and that's 783 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: why I don't use Twitter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Twitter, you 784 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: hear that other situation. 785 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for scrumming in. 786 00:35:46,280 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: It was so great meeting you and talking with you. 787 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: You thought we were signing off, but I just found 788 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: out that you are a Gray's Anatomy fan. 789 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: Rry, Like, I I saw them on the carpet and 790 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: I started bawling my eyes out. Yeah I saw Ellen, 791 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: I know, I saw them all. Actually I saw Okay, 792 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: I actually don't know the other people's real names, but 793 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: Da Bailey, Richard, oh, I know. Alex was not there. 794 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: Schmidt was there, and I spoke to Schmidt. 795 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's Jake Brelli. 796 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Wilson was there. 797 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: Joe Wilson, Joe wils We had Camilla on our podcast. 798 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: There is there was a few. There was like just 799 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: a nice little where was of them People's choice? Oh 800 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: my yeah, it was like one of the I still like, 801 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: I think I haven't watched Gray's Anatomy in like so 802 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: long because I met them. I was like, I just can't, like. 803 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: I love them. So when did you start watching? 804 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: Like when I was like thirteen or like twelve. Maybe 805 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I've watched the whole season, like every single season. 806 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: Like you've watched that live or you like started binging it. 807 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: No, I just started binging it over and over and over. Yeah, 808 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: I've seen it. Sometimes there's so many videos of me, 809 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: like in the car with headphones on it. I'm just full, 810 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: like sobbing at Derek's death. Like I watched the Derek's 811 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: death episode like an hour before I was supposed to 812 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: go on stage, and it's just me, Like you can 813 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: actually hear in the background of the video, Trevor's like, Okay, 814 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: I think we're going left here, and I'm in the 815 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: fact like what, like you just died, And everyone in 816 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: my car is like is she okay? Like why would 817 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: she watch? But it's like I love it, like I 818 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: want like the pain, like I want to watch the 819 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: episode over and over and over to feel something. 820 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I could watch that one over 821 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: and over again, like oh my god. Okay, So when 822 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 2: Derek died spoiler alert to anyone who hasn't watched. 823 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: It behind Okay, if people keep messaging my Instagram being 824 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: like you're spoiling Grays and I'm like, this is like 825 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: a season five thing. If you haven't seen it by now, 826 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: that's on you. 827 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: Like this is a decade old. So literally I watched this. 828 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: I was like eleven. 829 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like turning twenty. That's on you, not me, 830 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 2: that you've had plenty of time, plenty of time. I 831 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 2: was with my mom and I was on the couch 832 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 2: and I'm like sobbing and she looks down and she goes, 833 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: are you okay? And I was like this has been 834 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: my boyfriend. I was like what And I was like 835 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 2: I didn't know. I was to explain it. I felt 836 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: like my boyfriend for however many years just died. And 837 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 2: it was the most brutal written, brutally written storyline. 838 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: Every single person is like dead. I'm like, who, literally, 839 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: who's writing this storyline? Like? And then finally like Derek dies, 840 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool, like Lucas my guy. 841 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 2: Now, oh yeah sorry. 842 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: And I was like so shook when that happened because 843 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, like just another person. And 844 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: now I'm just realizing in this moment, my biggest fear 845 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: in life is people in my life dying. And I 846 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: think it might pay crazes well. 847 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 2: And the most like cruel. 848 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: Thick way they get on al And I'm like, I 849 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: take planes all the time, and like Lexi and everyone 850 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: like died in this plane crash, like Arizona has no 851 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: leg and every time I go in the air, I'm like, 852 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: my leg's getting chopped off. 853 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, you really never know, but I don't. I 854 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: think I don't see the Gray's Anatomy storylines being in 855 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: your future. 856 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope putting that out there. We had 857 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: a few of them, but oh yeah, it's fine. 858 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: What did you How did you feel about you've had 859 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 2: a few of those? 860 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: You said, yeah, it's fine. 861 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: Are you okay? No, but it's fine, So you can 862 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 2: watch you can watch those episodes. I haven't, And you've 863 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: lived through certain yeah, tragedies as such. 864 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: There are some that are more recent than others that 865 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: haven't watched it since I don't know if I can, 866 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: because I actually watched something on Queer Eye the other 867 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: day that was like a very similar situation. I was like, 868 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm done, Like I can't watch this episode, but I 869 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: like one of my best friends passed away when I 870 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: was younger, and I've watched like Derek get hit by 871 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: a car over and over, and I think that's why 872 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: that episode for me is like just like a one 873 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: and done and I have to skip it. 874 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I don't know if I could 875 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: do it. 876 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I feel like there's been a lot of 877 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: time since that one, you know, so I can watch Grays. 878 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, what do you think? Do you feel like 879 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 2: the old seasons are better? Like do you watch it 880 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: now and have like? 881 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: I think it like depends because they've introduced so many 882 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: new characters. Yeah, that I love so many of the 883 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: new characters. I just feel like it like shifts into 884 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: a different show almost because the first fot like every 885 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: season with George, I was like I love him, like 886 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: that's my person. And then when he when Christina left, 887 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this show is like taking a 888 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: sideways to her and like she's not here anymore. But 889 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: then the second like Alex and Joe started getting together, 890 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I like the show again, but 891 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: then then left fin Actually I think that episode ruins 892 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: me the most of that. I actually watched that not 893 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: that long ago, and I called my boyfriend and I 894 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: was like, if you're with me for this many years 895 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: and you leave me, I don't know what I'm gonna do, 896 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: like watching and then Joe literally turns into like like 897 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: a shell of herself and she's not even the same person. 898 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: Like this is gonna be me, Like I'm gonna be 899 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: like super famous and then you're gonna leave me and 900 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be like the end of my career. No, 901 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 1: it's I feel like everyone in this room hasn't seen 902 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: Grays right now is so confused about what's happening. But 903 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: it's like the most heartbreaking. 904 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 2: They're all texting that right now, like yeah you that 905 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: after after he left Joe, I was like, I don't 906 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: want to watch this show anymore. 907 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: I obviously did, but I was very and then like 908 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: oh and then like they put Meredith with what's his nuts, 909 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: the Megan guy, Rick oh Riggs. Yeah, and they put 910 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 1: her with him, and I loved her with him, and 911 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: I was like wow, the first man like since Derek. 912 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: And then like Meghan came back and I was like, well, 913 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: good for Megan, but like, yeah, Meredith is like one 914 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: double double whammad on the like no man thing I. 915 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: Haven't This is my confession, this is my truth. I 916 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 2: haven't like a single person that she's been with, sinceteric. 917 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: And who that new guy that she was I can't. 918 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't like him comfortable. 919 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean, he looks like someone from my high 920 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: school and it makes me uncomfortable. Like I'm like you, I'm. 921 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 2: Always like he seems angry. I don't get why we're 922 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 2: like this Minnesota. 923 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, no effects, nothing will ever. It's just 924 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: like he's from Minnesota, she's from Seattle. It's not it 925 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Like it's not gonna work. 926 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impossible. 927 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like And then like he just is 928 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: like not, he's not it for her. 929 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: I agree, But like the only high I felt for 930 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 2: Meredith since death is when they were on the beach 931 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: and he was a ghost. 932 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what it was meant to be. And 933 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: you guys just like ran him over with the truck. 934 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: I liter was like, if Meredith dies, I'll be devastated, 935 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: But if these episodes can continue with them on the 936 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 2: beach together, I'm I can handle it. 937 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 1: And they then like once Alex left, then she had 938 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: no one and I was like, well, now the show 939 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: is just like a bunch of like randos that were 940 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: added in like season eight, and I don't like that. 941 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 2: And it's like now I just feel like she's a 942 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: teacher and I'm like, I don't feel like she has 943 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,439 Speaker 2: her own thing. 944 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah she doesn't. 945 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 2: It's devastating. Yeah, we've been through a lot, fans, and 946 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 2: like that alone is reason to be in therapy. Yeah. 947 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't think people realize what we've been throught, and 948 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 2: I get so emotional like the shooting episode, Like it's. 949 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: Like, no, I remember having a lockdown at my school 950 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: life and I was like we're all gonna die, Like 951 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get shot in the heart and have this 952 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: whole thing like what Derek did in the hallway, because 953 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and try and be the hero, 954 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: like I everything that happens in my life. I'm like, 955 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 1: oh my god, that one episode where like. 956 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 2: Sopis, you've really been through it all. 957 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that serious lockdown was not that's serious. It was 958 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: like I mean the fact that I mean there was 959 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: like an entire squat teams running aund the school. But like, 960 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: turns out it was nothing. I don't think I think 961 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: it was nothing. We didn't really get the full intel. 962 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: But you know you go in lockdown sometimes even just 963 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: for like practice, and you're like instantly scared. 964 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean it's episode Yeah. 965 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I also think it's really silly. This is like off topic, 966 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: but I do think it's really silly that it's not 967 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: because it makes sense, but like how all the doors 968 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: in the hospital would immediately lock and then like they'd 969 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: be looking for like kids or like trying to get 970 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: away from someone and the doors would be locked and 971 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: they can't get out. 972 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 2: It's it's like like. 973 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: Same with what was the episode where there was that 974 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: fire and there was a little girl and the doctor 975 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: was trying to get the. 976 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: That was Stephanie, right, So I actually loved she left. 977 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: I hate that. 978 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Avery left too. 979 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: That was that was a huge keep losing everyone, I 980 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: know what's wrong. But yeah that episode where like the 981 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,479 Speaker 1: door was locked and she was literally in the room 982 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: with like the like assaulter and then was like with 983 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: this daughter and everything was on fire and I was like, 984 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: y'all can't get these emergency doors unlocked, Like this is unbelievable, 985 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: Like people are just dying because of like this safety 986 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: protocol that's been put in place. 987 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'm concerned for the writers at this point. Yeah, 988 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 2: of like the deep darkness that lives in their brains 989 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: that they're coming up with these things and like it's. 990 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: Like, oh, who should we kill off? 991 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeahday yeah, just like a casual day in the writer's room. 992 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're like, oh, like should we kill Meredith? 993 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 2: Not yet? Maybe Joe yeah yeah, yeah yeah what Well, 994 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 2: then it won't be Gray's Anatomy without Meredith. So who 995 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 2: can who just can sacrifice? 996 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: Give like a disease too? And You're like what, Also, 997 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: merediths home has almost died like twenty million And I'm like, 998 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: that's not that's not That's never happened to someone ever, 999 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: Like you need to make it more reasonable. 1000 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 2: I was gonna say every time we have we've had 1001 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: a lot of the Grace cast on the podcast, and 1002 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 2: I always ask, like, you know, Grace is known for 1003 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,919 Speaker 2: people dying. If you could choose your death, what would 1004 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 2: it be? That's always one of my questions. And I'm like, 1005 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 2: that's that shouldn't be normal, but it is. It feels 1006 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: very normal for me to ask that. Wow, I'm glad 1007 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 2: we got to chat about that. Thank you, Thank you 1008 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: so much for scrubbing in And I can't wait. Are 1009 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 2: you gonna be in l A on the tour? 1010 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? I am? Is that? August seven? 1011 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 2: Great? You and Taylor swife both in the city. 1012 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm trying to go to that same week. 1013 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,959 Speaker 2: Well, she has like seven shows, so you just gotta 1014 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: a day off. Yeah. So great meeting you. You're such 1015 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 2: a joy. I'm so excited for you, and I feel 1016 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: like this is just the beginning and I'm so happy 1017 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 2: this worked out. 1018 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: Thank you.