Speaker 1: What's up? It's us on the side. Oh oh, I
Speaker 1: think this might be episode thirty.
Speaker 2: Wow at us.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm not one hundred percent sure on that. I
Speaker 1: should probably check that information before I just say it.
Speaker 1: It feels right to me, Like I feel like I
Speaker 1: remember logging episode twenty nine and writing twenty nine, but
Speaker 1: it could have been for this night.
Speaker 2: I actually like the fact that can you keep this
Speaker 2: in just in case?
Speaker 1: Like you if I'm gonna go check right now, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it in anyway. Tell me something that's
Speaker 1: on your mind, Diamond, Well, I go.
Speaker 2: Look, well, I'm doing an overnight shift tonight, and I
Speaker 2: value my sleep way too much to stay up all night,
Speaker 2: even though I have to like do the overnight right,
Speaker 2: so I usually go to bed around four pm. I
Speaker 2: don't play that's file a Roson, Do not disturb okay,
Speaker 2: boom okay by five at least I'm knocked out.
Speaker 1: How many people hit the notify anyway?
Speaker 2: No one, Because i'mlike you, you everybody else in my
Speaker 2: life is normal. I don't do that to you, right,
Speaker 2: but you would. I would.
Speaker 1: I do it to other people. I should do it
Speaker 1: to you more often so that you are included in
Speaker 1: the circle. Oh fun fact, this is not episode thirty.
Speaker 2: Please tell me it's twenty eight, twenty nine.
Speaker 1: I'm not that stupid.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's my birthday episode? Then why this will
Speaker 2: probably be No, won't be the last one before.
Speaker 1: Dropping on Wednesday, August twenty first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so hard. No, I'm all the way off,
Speaker 2: but yolo, so real quick.
Speaker 1: A couple of things. I always say this, and I'll
Speaker 1: say it again, and this is proof you are, I think,
Speaker 1: the hardest working person.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: So you are always.
Speaker 1: Putting in time here. I don't know why, No, I
Speaker 1: do know why. You're doing the right thing. It's a
Speaker 1: good thing. But two, when you celebrate your birthday for
Speaker 1: a month because you have a birthday month right all
Speaker 1: of September or is it August twelfth to September twelfth.
Speaker 2: And then October twelfth, I don't play. It's literally probably
Speaker 2: all a fall because I don't stop. Follow is my favorite.
Speaker 1: You know I'm not gonna celebrate that, right you can there, No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be forced. Okay, So while we're on our trip,
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna tell people it's my birthday.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh that's right, because this is a big birthday
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: We celebrate all year long. I don't think you understand
Speaker 2: the trips I listen. I don't know. Chase is probably
Speaker 2: very upset with me because I've just been putting everything
Speaker 2: on the card. Well, oh yeah, I hated myself. You
Speaker 2: know whatever. You're borrowing the money from them, whatever, I
Speaker 2: live in life. Whatever, Man, where's the trip? So I'm
Speaker 2: going to Arizona for my actual birthday. I'm doing a
Speaker 2: wellness retreat.
Speaker 4: So much fun.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you coming?
Speaker 1: If I'm invited?
Speaker 2: I think you want to be most definitely invited. And
Speaker 2: I need to get a head count because I'm making souvenirs.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you I'm so excited. Okay, uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm going there and then or we're going there
Speaker 2: and then. Uh. For the next few months, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna be doing little things, like I'm thinking about planning
Speaker 2: a trip to Chicago. I've been saying that I wanted
Speaker 2: to go for a really long time. And then I'm
Speaker 2: going to like Rowan Oak, Virginia, which wouldn't necessarily be
Speaker 2: on my list, but we're going to celebrate my cousin's
Speaker 2: husband's birthday. He doesn't know, but it's my birthday too.
Speaker 1: So say you're gonna let someone else to celebrate.
Speaker 2: No, but we're going to a Virginia Tech game, huge tailgate,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So you know you have a lot
Speaker 2: of celebrations. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Also, I'm thinking and I would like to know your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this, and probably get Andrew and Josh too.
Speaker 1: I feel like the next episode, episode thirty, actually is
Speaker 1: episode thirty. I feel like we should do a little
Speaker 1: quick like, hey, we're heading out on the road recap,
Speaker 1: or do we just ignore while we're on vacation and
Speaker 1: not do a podcast at all?
Speaker 2: If we did an Instagram live instead that Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what your little friend Andrew is
Speaker 1: trying to do. Oh, this man wants to bring the
Speaker 1: roadcaster and record an episode on the road. Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna get him, Andrew.
Speaker 2: It's like what, Okay, he's coming, he's coming. Hi, he's
Speaker 2: actually running. Oh, you guys are matching today.
Speaker 1: We've been matching a lot lately.
Speaker 2: Loser burd Ernie over here with the strike.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Andrew, Andrew came in sausages, sassy, I love it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I just told Diamond that for the road trip,
Speaker 1: you were thinking about maybe bringing the roadcaster and doing
Speaker 1: a podcast on the road.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: She immediately shut it down.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, then guess what it saw us on the
Speaker 6: side with Gandhi and special guest Andrew.
Speaker 1: And Josh and Josh unless Josh doesn't want to do it.
Speaker 4: This is an ab situation and you can see yourself.
Speaker 3: Out of it.
Speaker 2: Against me.
Speaker 4: Haha.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's not your stuff. That was from like nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I use it on him.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Wait, okay, So Diamond, why do you not want to
Speaker 1: do it?
Speaker 2: First of all, you almost hit me with the microphone. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I just think that it's going to be a mess,
Speaker 2: and it'll be fun because everything we do is a mess.
Speaker 2: But I could just see tempers flaring, you know.
Speaker 6: I think it'll be fun to do one or two,
Speaker 6: maybe three little podcasts on the road, keeping listeners updated
Speaker 6: about our trip in a way that not only helps
Speaker 6: Gandhi's podcast, but it helps our listeners get content while
Speaker 6: we're on vacation. Sorry, I'm looking up for the show
Speaker 6: and also for the better interest of Gandhi's podcast.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, here's as producer.
Speaker 4: You might want to start doing the way.
Speaker 2: Here's my question, who is editing it? You're putting all
Speaker 2: that on Gandhi.
Speaker 6: There's no editing. It's literally just guess what. This is
Speaker 6: a sauce on the side on the road edition. We're
Speaker 6: not editing it, and guess what. Whatever we say flies,
Speaker 6: So good luck.
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: Actually a lot of Russian Roulette we're playing over here.
Speaker 4: It's going to be that crazy.
Speaker 6: I think it would be fun.
Speaker 4: I've done a lot.
Speaker 6: I've done this before with podcasts on the road. It's
Speaker 6: very simple. We don't Gandhi doesn't require much, so it'll
Speaker 6: be great.
Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know if I appreciate that Gandhi doesn't
Speaker 1: require much thing. I'm gonna have to think about how
Speaker 1: you meant that.
Speaker 6: It means that you are easy to work with and
Speaker 6: you would understand the on the fly method that we
Speaker 6: would be using because it's for the best interest of
Speaker 6: your show that it just needs to go up in
Speaker 6: a timely manner, not that oh oh my god, should
Speaker 6: be worried about taking this part out or editing this. No,
Speaker 6: it's going to be twenty quick minutes of the four
Speaker 6: of us talking, Oh my god, what do we do today?
Speaker 6: Here's what we did? Upload boom done?
Speaker 2: Who's bringing the mics? Me?
Speaker 4: I have everything?
Speaker 1: So that was the only thing that I said. I
Speaker 1: was like, I just feel badly that you are going
Speaker 1: to have to bring all this stuff with you, because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Andrew's like a carry on type too,
Speaker 1: Like he just brings one bag and flies with it.
Speaker 1: But then if you have to bring that stuff.
Speaker 4: Too, what you do, I'll be fine. I could bring
Speaker 4: two you're allowed to.
Speaker 6: I have my roller backpack which i'll put my roller
Speaker 6: luggage that I could just throw the road caster in. Two.
Speaker 4: I have the mics, and then we'll be good to go.
Speaker 1: All right. I'm not appollosed to it, but I just
Speaker 1: said I don't want to make everybody else have to
Speaker 1: do this if that's not something that they want to do.
Speaker 6: I think we just need to get the details hammered
Speaker 6: out one, two, maybe three.
Speaker 4: If we're feeling sassy, go for it.
Speaker 6: And I think that would be really fun to give
Speaker 6: people like an inside look to our trip while we're
Speaker 6: on the road.
Speaker 4: What do you think, producer Diamond?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, amazing, great cheers.
Speaker 1: No one can hear your eye roll on the microphone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that Andrew is such a loser.
Speaker 2: But it's okay.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I care about my job.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Sorry, here we go, and so sorry. I
Speaker 2: can't wait to never mind, I almost incriminated myself. Never mind,
Speaker 2: we're gonna back up. What Yeah, I just can't wait
Speaker 2: to put a pillow over his face while he's sleeping. Yeah,
Speaker 2: scare them a little bit. I wouldn't kill you.
Speaker 6: Well, guess what, you might not find the details out
Speaker 6: about it because Diamond doesn't want to record while we're
Speaker 6: on the trip. So sorry, guys, you'll just have to
Speaker 6: hear about it after not in the moment.
Speaker 1: If she tries to sulifocate you, I will go Instagram live.
Speaker 1: That is my promise to everybody.
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, no, do we have the equipment, Diamond, do
Speaker 4: we have the equipment to do that? Oh, she probably
Speaker 4: doesn't want.
Speaker 2: To Instagram live. Oh come on, babe, let's get it together.
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to be on the road with this.
Speaker 1: This is exciting. And Josh doesn't even hear yet. And
Speaker 1: we know Josh is the most trouble of everybody.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 1: Josh.
Speaker 2: Oh God, noise canceling headphones. So happy to have them,
Speaker 2: so happy.
Speaker 1: You don't want noise canceling headphones on a trail. You
Speaker 1: want to hear the crackling of the branches when the
Speaker 1: bear's coming.
Speaker 2: Oh god, terrified, I'm terrified.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Andrew, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Get out, get out as you were.
Speaker 1: What were you doing out there? I don't know what
Speaker 1: were you doing out there? Son of the co party?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I was just working.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, everywhere I go is the party.
Speaker 2: Get out?
Speaker 1: Bye bye, see you later.
Speaker 5: Do you know it?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Shall we talk about that? You want to talk about that? Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Pause.
Speaker 1: First, let's bring in Jim Carr, who we all love,
Speaker 1: because at the end of this episode there's something that
Speaker 1: you have got to hear that Diamond believes.
Speaker 2: Okay to Jim Kerr.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm sitting with one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: in this building. I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 1: Did you know that, Jim?
Speaker 3: No, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: You are.
Speaker 1: I've said that to multiple people.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I haven't heard that actually in a while.
Speaker 1: Really yes, I don't believe that. We just celebrated. Everybody
Speaker 1: celebrated you being on the air for fifty years in
Speaker 1: New York City in March.
Speaker 7: Right in the mornings, in New York mornings.
Speaker 1: That's insane. Do you stop and pinch yourself, like, wow,
Speaker 1: I've been I.
Speaker 7: Went on the radio the first time when I was fourteen.
Speaker 7: When I was nineteen, I was working in Chicago when
Speaker 7: I was nineteen twenty, and then they transferred me to
Speaker 7: New York to do the morning show on their radio
Speaker 7: station that ABC owned at the time, WPLJ, which was,
Speaker 7: you know, a rock station, current rock station. Classic rock
Speaker 7: hadn't been invented yet because not enough time had gone by.
Speaker 5: It was rock.
Speaker 7: And my goal was to last a year and then
Speaker 7: I could hold my head up high, go back to Michigan,
Speaker 7: where I'm from, and spend the rest of my life
Speaker 7: bragging to my friends that I worked in New York once.
Speaker 7: So that was the goal. It didn't work out the
Speaker 7: way I planned.
Speaker 1: No, you failed, Yeah, you failed it.
Speaker 7: Failing fifty years later and still on the radio in
Speaker 7: the morning in New York.
Speaker 1: Did you have that voice when you were fourteen?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: Okay, no, Well I loved the radio. Okay, when I
Speaker 7: was in the second grade, my teacher, Missus Douglas, took
Speaker 7: our class in a field trip and we went to
Speaker 7: WWJ AMFM and TV in downtown Detroit and it was
Speaker 7: just really exciting, and I thought, Wow, grown ups can
Speaker 7: have a job like this. This is where I want
Speaker 7: to be. I mean, I didn't know what I wanted
Speaker 7: to be. I just knew that that was what I loved.
Speaker 7: I couldn't wait until adulthood. I just couldn't wait. And
Speaker 7: when I was fourteen, I went around to several radio
Speaker 7: stations in Detroit, you know, talk to people who worked there.
Speaker 7: Some of the people there were very nice, let me,
Speaker 7: you know, watch them work on the air, and talk
Speaker 7: to some management people who gave me advice on what
Speaker 7: courses to take and what I should learn. But that
Speaker 7: was a long way off. I couldn't wait that long. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So finally I picked up on my little transistor radio
Speaker 7: a station in a town called Ipsilanti, Michigan, and it was,
Speaker 7: you know, way at the end of the dial at
Speaker 7: fifteen twenty. It was only on during the day, and
Speaker 7: I thought to myself, maybe those little, tiny radio stations
Speaker 7: can use someone like me. So I took the Greyhound
Speaker 7: bus to Ipsilanti, and I met with their general manager,
Speaker 7: and I guess he wanted to let the young kid
Speaker 7: down gently, because he said, Oh, you can be on
Speaker 7: the radio. We could probably find a place for you,
Speaker 7: but we'll let you be on the radio for one
Speaker 7: hour if you can sell sixty.
Speaker 3: Dollars worth of commercials.
Speaker 7: Okay, if you sell one hundred and twenty dollars worth
Speaker 7: of commercials, we'll let you be on for two hours,
Speaker 7: and so on and so forth, and then I would
Speaker 7: get a fifteen percent commission. Yeah, okay, I would get
Speaker 7: a fifteen percent commission. And I expect that he thought
Speaker 7: that would be the last that he would see me.
Speaker 7: But every day after school I would either take the
Speaker 7: bus or hitchhike to Ipsilanti, and I went to every
Speaker 7: drug store and dry cleaner and real estate office and
Speaker 7: diner and carpet store to try to sell these radio commercials.
Speaker 7: And the commercials weren't very expensive, and I was going
Speaker 7: to write them all so they didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 7: So a couple of weeks went by, Oh, and a
Speaker 7: lot of people did purchase the advertising for me. I
Speaker 7: guess they wanted to help the little fourteen year old
Speaker 7: kid walking around with a briefcase wearing a suit, not
Speaker 7: a briefcase. So I went back to see mister Hadley
Speaker 7: at the station and I said, okay, I've sold eight
Speaker 7: hundred dollars worth of commercials.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred yes, okay.
Speaker 3: So can I be on now?
Speaker 7: And he said yes, and so on February eleventh, nineteen
Speaker 7: sixty seven, I went on the air, and I've been
Speaker 7: on the air ever since.
Speaker 1: So two questions about what you just said. One, did
Speaker 1: you ever go back and tell missus Douglas? Is that
Speaker 1: what her name was?
Speaker 7: I don't think I did.
Speaker 1: No, you never told her no, okay? And do you
Speaker 1: remember the first spots that you sold? What they were for?
Speaker 7: The first spot I sold was four or the Gift Gallery,
Speaker 7: which was in the basement concourse of the Westland shopping Center.
Speaker 7: You know, they had different different gifts like frames for
Speaker 7: your photographs, you.
Speaker 1: Know, just yeah sort of stuff like tochkey type of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff like that.
Speaker 7: And eventually they took over my advertising accounts, took them
Speaker 7: away from me, and they started paying me. So I
Speaker 7: was getting fifty bucks a week nineteen sixty seven, dollars.
Speaker 7: I was in the eighth grade and junior high was.
Speaker 4: Pretty good ball.
Speaker 1: Were you really popular at school because of this?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Did people know?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: Wow, But it wasn't It wasn't a radio station that
Speaker 7: my schoolmates would be interested in listening to.
Speaker 2: What kind of music was it?
Speaker 7: My show when I first started was on Saturdays, and
Speaker 7: I played you know, top forty, pop, rock, R and B.
Speaker 7: But you know, it was kind of a mix and match.
Speaker 7: It was a small town radio station. It wasn't a
Speaker 7: Detroit market station. And then I'd come back into my
Speaker 7: go to school world live in the suburbs of Detroit,
Speaker 7: and it was like two different existences.
Speaker 1: What did your parents think of all of this?
Speaker 7: I can't say that they were real encouraging because I
Speaker 7: just don't think they understood it.
Speaker 1: Were the Indian that sounds familiar?
Speaker 7: Why did you have a problem?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 7: Were they upset when you decided you were going.
Speaker 1: To Absolutely they weren't. So they weren't outwardly upset because
Speaker 1: they wanted to be supportive. But my dad, I was
Speaker 1: so excited when I got the job, and my dad said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. I hope it doesn't detract you from
Speaker 1: pursuing your real aspirations and finding a real career.
Speaker 7: And I was like, and what did your dad what
Speaker 7: did what did he think your career should be?
Speaker 1: Well, of course they would have loved me to be
Speaker 1: a doctor of some sort a position or a surgeon.
Speaker 1: But everybody else in the family did that.
Speaker 7: Okay, so you should talk to Carol Miller sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and her younger sister became a physician.
Speaker 1: My older sister became her practitioner, so you know what
Speaker 1: that was like, Yes, thank god for the other sibling.
Speaker 1: But your parents were not super excited about it.
Speaker 7: No, because it seemed like just you know, a kid,
Speaker 7: you know, doing something weird, and how long will it last?
Speaker 1: Was there ever a point that they said, Okay, we
Speaker 1: see what you're doing.
Speaker 7: Well, not really, because well my mom died when I
Speaker 7: was still a teenager, and then my dad we were estranged,
Speaker 7: and you know.
Speaker 1: So so there's never been a circle back with any
Speaker 1: of this. Let me tell you something, Jim, I tried
Speaker 1: to research you online. You are elusive, like Bigfoot, even
Speaker 1: our own companies. I went to your radio station's website.
Speaker 2: There's no bio.
Speaker 1: There's a picture of you and your co host there's
Speaker 1: no bio. The only place I found even a little
Speaker 1: blurb was from the Broadcasters Hall of Fame announcement. I
Speaker 1: believe the Radio Hall of Fame, Radio Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: Radio Hall of Fame. Yes, I saw that there, and
Speaker 1: it was two sentences that I already knew. I'm like
Speaker 1: this guy, Jim, he must have a book. You don't
Speaker 1: have a book. Are you going to write a book?
Speaker 7: No, I'm not going to write.
Speaker 1: Why you have so many stories? I promise people would
Speaker 1: want to hear. Why no book?
Speaker 7: Well, if people want to hear stories that I tell,
Speaker 7: they can turn on the radio.
Speaker 1: Where would they find you?
Speaker 7: Jim at one oh four point three on the FM
Speaker 7: Island New York or on the free iHeartRadio app. iHeartRadio
Speaker 7: even provides me with my wardrobe. I see that I'm
Speaker 7: wearing company issued clothing today.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, Jim is on at the same time we're on,
Speaker 1: so at the moment, I'm promoting competition, you know.
Speaker 7: But the great thing, one of the great things about
Speaker 7: working here is that you know we're all together, We're
Speaker 7: all playing in the same band. We had a little
Speaker 7: problem with my show this morning because of a technical
Speaker 7: difficulty that caused Shelley Sunstein to be unable to be
Speaker 7: on our show after the first hour. There was a
Speaker 7: technical failure. She was working from home. I had on
Speaker 7: my show this morning, DJ ANDV from Power and one
Speaker 7: oh five point one. Okay, we ran down the hall
Speaker 7: to the twenty four to seven newsroom and grabbed Jacqueline
Speaker 7: Carl to come in and do the news. But the
Speaker 7: fact is, you know, we're often participating in one another's shows.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 7: It's cool and it's fun, and it's a nice group
Speaker 7: of people.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I was very surprised by
Speaker 1: when I came here and you are part of this,
Speaker 1: was how welcoming and kind everybody was, because places that
Speaker 1: I had been previous to this that was not the same.
Speaker 1: So I thought, when I get to New York City, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's going to be the worst. They're going to be
Speaker 1: so full of themselves because it's the top of the mountain.
Speaker 1: And this was the smoothest transition. And you were one
Speaker 1: of the people who was nice to me first and
Speaker 1: made me feel very comfortable. I think I've told you
Speaker 1: this before. You remind me of somebody who I used
Speaker 1: to work with, who I love very much. He was
Speaker 1: the host of the first show that I was part
Speaker 1: of in Columbus, Ohio. I still talk to him all
Speaker 1: the time, but every time I see you, I just
Speaker 1: want to squeeze you because you remind me of Dave
Speaker 1: and you are kind to me like Dave.
Speaker 7: What did you like Columbus, Ohio?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 7: I just want you to know and this, you know,
Speaker 7: this hopefully will not shatter our relationship. But I worked
Speaker 7: in ann Arbor.
Speaker 1: Yeah I knew it. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. It
Speaker 1: will not shatter our relationship because you can't change the best.
Speaker 7: Well, you must have been so excited when when you
Speaker 7: came to New York and joined Elvis Duran and the
Speaker 7: Morning Show. Most of your predecessors in the role that
Speaker 7: you assumed moved on to shows of their own. Is
Speaker 7: that a goal for you someday if I have to,
Speaker 7: I'm talking about a goal for the future. Or do
Speaker 7: you like being part of the ensemble? Well, of course
Speaker 7: you love being part of the ensemble because you know
Speaker 7: you're an important part of it and it's lots of fun.
Speaker 7: But you know, in your own aspirational mode, would you
Speaker 7: like the Gandhi show?
Speaker 1: Ah? I see what you're doing here, by the way,
Speaker 1: flipping the interview on me, You're good at that gym.
Speaker 1: But I really enjoy being part of a group with
Speaker 1: other people. I like playing off of other people. Some
Speaker 1: of my favorite podcast episodes that I do because this
Speaker 1: is technically me branching out and doing my own thing.
Speaker 1: I love when I can include Diamond and Andrew and
Speaker 1: we can have conversations together. Of course, I love interviewing
Speaker 1: guests and talking to them, but the dynamic of being
Speaker 1: with other people, I really enjoy that. So what I
Speaker 1: like the money that comes from it. Just being myself, sure,
Speaker 1: but no, I really like this. I enjoy it.
Speaker 7: But you know, you know Diamond, speaking of Diamond, Yes,
Speaker 7: Diamond is a gem here on this floor because all
Speaker 7: of us get up really early. I probably get up
Speaker 7: a little earlier than you because my show starts at five,
Speaker 7: So I get up at three and I come in
Speaker 7: here to work. And every morning, no matter what, Diamond
Speaker 7: has the biggest, warmest smile. You know, it just makes
Speaker 7: you feel good when she says good morning to you all.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: For the record, Diamond is sitting here being very quiet.
Speaker 1: Would you like to say anything about that?
Speaker 5: Ms?
Speaker 1: Cooper, there she is.
Speaker 7: Thanks Jim, But you know what I'm talking about. You know,
Speaker 7: you could end up. I've worked at places where you
Speaker 7: walk in and people are grumpy. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: I come in here and she's one of the first
Speaker 7: people I see, because she arrives here, you know, before
Speaker 7: the show goes on the air.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes she does overnights.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, yes, But I love the radio, and I've
Speaker 7: been so fortunate and so lucky to be able to,
Speaker 7: you know, actually make a living doing what I love
Speaker 7: so much. Because I now this may sound a little strange,
Speaker 7: you know, maybe I should be talking to a therapist
Speaker 7: about this instead of talking to you about it.
Speaker 3: Gandhi, I mean it.
Speaker 7: But I really honestly believe that I have about a
Speaker 7: million friends. I really do. I love the people who listen,
Speaker 7: and I care about them. I want to be a
Speaker 7: good companion. I want to help wake them up in
Speaker 7: a good mood. I am so appreciative if they're listening
Speaker 7: in the morning, while they're getting dressed, or while they're
Speaker 7: driving to the train station, overnight, workers coming home, whatever
Speaker 7: it is, the fact that they've allowed me to be
Speaker 7: a part of their life just makes me feel fantastic.
Speaker 7: Every once in a while, you know, because there's a
Speaker 7: certain anonymity to.
Speaker 1: Radio until you open your mouth and people are like,
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 7: Every once in a while, something weird happens that makes
Speaker 7: you feel really good inside. And I was on an
Speaker 7: elevator earlier this week. I was wearing a T shirt
Speaker 7: that I bought that says raised on radio. Okay, So
Speaker 7: that was what the T shirt said, It said raised
Speaker 7: on radio, And there was like a little drawing of
Speaker 7: a radio okay. And there were two women and two
Speaker 7: men and a little boy and a stroller. So I
Speaker 7: got on the elevator and the little boy looked at
Speaker 7: me and went and I said, why, thank you so much,
Speaker 7: and how are you doing today?
Speaker 3: And he said wow.
Speaker 7: And then I said that's about the most enthusiastic greeting
Speaker 7: that I've received in a long long time. And then
Speaker 7: one of the women said, looking at my shirt, you
Speaker 7: sound like a radio.
Speaker 1: Did you tell it?
Speaker 7: And I said I do, and she said yes, and
Speaker 7: I said, well, I work on the radio. And then
Speaker 7: one of the men said what's your name? And I
Speaker 7: told them my name, and then the other woman said,
Speaker 7: I'm sixty five years old. I've been listening to you
Speaker 7: every day since I was fifteen years old. She said,
Speaker 7: you have been a part of my life that long,
Speaker 7: and well, I'm getting teary eyed.
Speaker 1: It's so true. You think you have a million friends.
Speaker 1: All those million people probably think you're their friend too.
Speaker 1: Imagine fifty years of somebody's life, what that woman has
Speaker 1: been through. You've been the constant through that.
Speaker 7: That's a great thing and it just makes me feel
Speaker 7: really good. And you know, it's one of the motivating factors,
Speaker 7: you know, to live a life where you get up
Speaker 7: at three o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. You get it at three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. You're here, your show ends at nine, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I appreciate you staying so much later
Speaker 1: to do the show with me today. Thank you for that.
Speaker 7: Well, Gandhi, I would be here if it was five
Speaker 7: in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: As you say, then I'll take you up on the
Speaker 1: offer one day. And by the way, I'm going to
Speaker 1: start greeting you with a whack every time I see you.
Speaker 1: Since you liked it, but well I liked.
Speaker 7: It from the little kid in the stroller. It would
Speaker 7: be weird for me if it was if it was
Speaker 7: if it was an adult woman looking at me and
Speaker 7: doing that, that would be maybe a little a little crazy.
Speaker 1: We'll find out, Jim, We'll find out. But you get
Speaker 1: it at three. You're done here at nine. What is
Speaker 1: the rest of your day like, because again you are elusive.
Speaker 7: Well, I do a lot of other things.
Speaker 3: I do volunteer. I do some volunteer work.
Speaker 2: Do it.
Speaker 7: What do you do well? I've been on the board
Speaker 7: of directors of Heartshire Human Services of New York for
Speaker 7: I don't know, almost forty years. It's one of New
Speaker 7: York's largest social service agencies, and it has a subsidiary agency,
Speaker 7: HeartShare Wellness, which it provides medical services to people with
Speaker 7: developmental disabilities who find it difficult to be served properly
Speaker 7: in a normal physician's office. And some patients are nonverbal,
Speaker 7: for instance, so they need specialized medical care. I'm chairman
Speaker 7: of the board of that organization. I'm also active in
Speaker 7: our union. I'm vice president of the New York local
Speaker 7: of Sagafterra. I'm on the national board of Sagafterra. I'm
Speaker 7: actually overextended to tell you the truth.
Speaker 2: But I believe it.
Speaker 1: I just want to know what it is because but.
Speaker 7: I try to do things. Oh and I'm on the
Speaker 7: board of directors of the Sagafter Foundation, which is separate
Speaker 7: from the union, and we provide catastrophic medical care for
Speaker 7: our stag after members. I could think of some more stuff.
Speaker 1: I bet you could. I want to hear all of it, though,
Speaker 1: because when I think about what is cool, things have
Speaker 1: changed so much, and I think so many people try
Speaker 1: all day to prove to you that I'm real cool.
Speaker 1: Especially with social media, people post all day what they're doing,
Speaker 1: what they're eating, where they're going.
Speaker 7: Well, I've never been cool, not from you.
Speaker 1: To me, you're the definition of cool.
Speaker 7: No, not from one single day of my life.
Speaker 1: If I was going to think of somebody who is cool,
Speaker 1: I'd be like Jim Carl, He's a cool guy.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you've been Well, there's a difference.
Speaker 7: You can say, oh, somebody's a cool guy. No, I
Speaker 7: mean that doesn't mean someone's cool.
Speaker 1: I mean like the emoji with the sunglasses.
Speaker 7: No no, no, no no no no no.
Speaker 1: It can't make me change my mind. That is what
Speaker 1: I think. Back to this book that you're never going
Speaker 1: to write. I'm not going to try and force it
Speaker 1: on you. However, now I'm going to harass you a
Speaker 1: lot more because I know that you are just a
Speaker 1: vault of cool stories. The guests that you have to
Speaker 1: have interviewed over fifty years in New York City radio,
Speaker 1: the things you have to have done and been part
Speaker 1: of the parties. I want to know all of that.
Speaker 7: Well, there used to be a lot more parties.
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard the cocaine used to arrive in envelopes.
Speaker 7: I know nothing about that. And I you know, that's
Speaker 7: another thing. I you know, when the cool kids were
Speaker 7: getting into the whole that whole thing, I never did.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm really rather conservative kind of guy. Yeah,
Speaker 7: not even one time ever put in a legal drug
Speaker 7: into my system.
Speaker 1: Now once you've never even smoked weed, Well now it's legal.
Speaker 7: No, now it's legal enough.
Speaker 3: It's legal.
Speaker 7: And I hate the smell. I smoke cigarettes. I drink
Speaker 7: way too much coffee. Cabinet is delicious. I don't need
Speaker 7: to put anything else into my body that I might
Speaker 7: potentially enjoy too much. So it's best just to all
Speaker 7: not try it. Right, I have fun all the time.
Speaker 7: I mean there are things I don't.
Speaker 1: Understand, though, What don't you understand?
Speaker 7: Okay, the radio station I work at Q one oh
Speaker 7: four point three. We're a classic rock station. Looking at
Speaker 7: the latest Nielsen ratings for the number two station in
Speaker 7: the New York market. Congratulations, well, thank you, But we're
Speaker 7: number three eighteen to thirty four year olds. We're number
Speaker 7: one eighteen to thirty four year old men, and we're
Speaker 7: number one eighteen to forty nine year old men, and
Speaker 7: we're number one twenty five to fifty four year old men.
Speaker 7: We play sixty year old songs. Our regular playlist at
Speaker 7: the station begins in nineteen sixty four, and the popularity
Speaker 7: of that music among people who are so young fascinates
Speaker 7: me because in nineteen sixty four, when I was eleven
Speaker 7: and saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show on
Speaker 7: a Sunday night and went to school the next day,
Speaker 7: and the whole world had changed. We weren't listening to
Speaker 7: songs that were hits in nineteen o four.
Speaker 1: Were there recordings of those songs that were being played
Speaker 1: on the radio. No, okay, so we'll start there. It
Speaker 1: was different. Things are different now. I think everything old
Speaker 1: is new again. But anymore, I don't want to say
Speaker 1: we've reached the end of creativity because that obviously is
Speaker 1: never going to happen, but it does seem like so
Speaker 1: many people are going back to the well and sampling things.
Speaker 1: People like some of the stuff their parents listen to,
Speaker 1: and their parents might be listening to what their parents
Speaker 1: listen to. So you hear these things and it feels
Speaker 1: nice and nostalgic, and it's cool to have that stuff
Speaker 1: that was the.
Speaker 7: Original, right, except that we don't say we're in nostalgic
Speaker 7: radio station. No, of course we don't say, because we
Speaker 7: don't say nineteen sixty seven Solid Gold, here's Van Morris.
Speaker 7: They No, we don't do that. We just play the
Speaker 7: music because it's good. And you know, when I play
Speaker 7: House of the Rising Sun by the Animals, that's sixty
Speaker 7: years ago.
Speaker 1: When you're naming these songs, I'm immediately thinking of movies.
Speaker 1: Where have I have heard those songs? And I wonder
Speaker 1: if that's a part of it too.
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 7: About as many people listen to the radio now as
Speaker 7: listen decades ago. It's just that, because there are so
Speaker 7: many other things going on, they listen for shorter periods
Speaker 7: of time. Okay, but they're still there and they're still
Speaker 7: with us, and we do have something very very special. Gandhi,
Speaker 7: you and me, we have something very special that competitors
Speaker 7: for people's time don't necessarily have. You know, Spotify has
Speaker 7: its place in the world, and Pandora has its place
Speaker 7: in the world. But Pandora can't be your friend. No,
Speaker 7: I can be your friend.
Speaker 1: I think that as a part the personalities. You don't
Speaker 1: get those when.
Speaker 7: You stream, and that's a fundamental difference. If you're just
Speaker 7: streaming something that's coming just to you, it's you're alone
Speaker 7: with the radio on. Not only do you have the
Speaker 7: human that's on the radio who's a companion, but there
Speaker 7: are thousands of other people who you don't even know,
Speaker 7: who are experiencing the same thing at the same time.
Speaker 7: So it's not a solitary experience. It's kind of a
Speaker 7: group experience in an unusual kind of way. It gives
Speaker 7: you kind of a psychic connection to a whole community
Speaker 7: of people who like the same things that you do.
Speaker 7: And I think that's part of the beautiful magic of radio.
Speaker 7: If it were invented today, people would be freaking out
Speaker 7: over it, going this is amazing. I think your rus
Speaker 7: is fantastic. It's free, it's portable, it's really cool. Who
Speaker 7: came up with this great idea and it's consistent.
Speaker 1: You sell radio short when you don't realize that every
Speaker 1: day you're getting new content, original content from people who
Speaker 1: are there every day and show up consistently. You also
Speaker 1: don't get that in a lot of other places. Even
Speaker 1: TV shows, there's a season and then they take a
Speaker 1: really long time off and a ton of people put
Speaker 1: a lot of effort into that to curate something very pacific,
Speaker 1: and you kind of know what you're going to get.
Speaker 1: With radio. You don't know what you're going to get.
Speaker 1: You didn't know that Shelley Sunstein wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: able to show up today.
Speaker 7: No, I had no idea.
Speaker 1: But on the fly you made it work.
Speaker 7: But we're here in real time. That's another thing. I
Speaker 7: look out, you know, I may I may have a
Speaker 7: piece of paper in front of me. I know, maybe
Speaker 7: you use a computer screen, but I like paper. I
Speaker 7: may have a piece of paper in front of me
Speaker 7: that says sunshine today, high eighty two. And I may
Speaker 7: look out the window and see that it's raining, so yes,
Speaker 7: so I can fix it right then and there. You know,
Speaker 7: the immediacy of the immediacy of it is. I think
Speaker 7: one of its great advantages, and if something really important
Speaker 7: happens that will impact people in a significant way, we
Speaker 7: can inform them of that immediately.
Speaker 1: So to that point, moments for you that stand out
Speaker 1: in your mind as far as I was on the
Speaker 1: radio when this happened, tell me.
Speaker 7: About John Lennon's assassination. That was December eighth, nineteen eighty
Speaker 7: the Monday night football was on with Howard Cosell. I
Speaker 7: had the radio on to my station, WPLJ. I was
Speaker 7: just getting ready to go to bed and ABC News
Speaker 7: but Looking came on saying that he had been shot
Speaker 7: taken to Roosevelt Hospital, and the newscaster used this term
Speaker 7: where he expired. So I put my clothes back on
Speaker 7: and I went back to the radio station and we
Speaker 7: spent all night calling people up and calling people who
Speaker 7: knew John Lennon, and putting together a special show for
Speaker 7: the next morning, which was my birthday.
Speaker 3: So that was the year I had no birthday.
Speaker 7: And we were able to mourn together as a community
Speaker 7: that day.
Speaker 1: That's a very big deal, and I'm sure that that
Speaker 1: brings comfort to not only you, all the other people
Speaker 1: that get to do it with you. Because to your point,
Speaker 1: you're all doing this one thing at the same time,
Speaker 1: and now we talk about this on the Big Show
Speaker 1: all the time. Loneliness is an epidemic. People are so lonely.
Speaker 1: The more access you have to so much wh content,
Speaker 1: so many different people, the more isolating somehow things have become.
Speaker 1: And it's great to be able to share that with people.
Speaker 1: So pieces of advice to the young baby DJs who
Speaker 1: want to follow in your footsteps and do things like you, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you tell them? We have interns here right now.
Speaker 1: I know what do you tell them?
Speaker 7: I tell them not to be discouraged. Believing in yourself
Speaker 7: is probably the most important thing of all, because if
Speaker 7: you believe in yourself, that will give you the confidence
Speaker 7: to go forward and to try to experience the realization
Speaker 7: of your dreams. And if you fail on that journey,
Speaker 7: you learn some things along the way, and you had
Speaker 7: some fun along the way.
Speaker 1: So for you, do you feel like you've lived your dream?
Speaker 7: I'm living it every day. I lived it this morning,
Speaker 7: I lived at a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: I live it.
Speaker 7: When I walk by your window of your studio here
Speaker 7: and wave at you in the morning.
Speaker 1: Don't hype us up man, You're the cool one in
Speaker 1: the building, I'm telling you. So, as far as guests go,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite or favorites? Do you have
Speaker 1: people that came in and blew your mind?
Speaker 7: Well? Yes, and I've had all different types of guests,
Speaker 7: rock stars, and I've had country stars, and I've had
Speaker 7: R and B stars and FOP stars and TV stars
Speaker 7: and movies, TV stars and movie stars.
Speaker 1: I need names, any names that have blown your mind
Speaker 1: in good ways, and maybe somebody who came in that
Speaker 1: you were like, please leave the studio.
Speaker 7: I've met John Paul and George.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, but I've actually met four Beatles because I
Speaker 7: met John, Paul, George, and Pete.
Speaker 1: He was the original that got kicked out and replaced
Speaker 1: with Ringo.
Speaker 2: Right, okay, right.
Speaker 3: I never met Ringo.
Speaker 7: I was in a room with Ringo once, but I
Speaker 7: on purpose didn't meet him because I wanted to still
Speaker 7: have one that I hadn't met. Okay, if you understand,
Speaker 7: if you understand what I mean, Smokey Robinson was over
Speaker 7: at our sister station, Power one of five point one
Speaker 7: one day.
Speaker 3: I heard that he was on the floor.
Speaker 7: I went running down there like a maniac. I didn't
Speaker 7: have him on my show, but I just wanted to
Speaker 7: meet him. You know, one of the greatest I mean,
Speaker 7: besides a great performer, one of the greatest songwriters of
Speaker 7: all time. I'm still trying to figure out how a
Speaker 7: guy like Smokey Robinson can write a song like My
Speaker 7: Girl and give it away to somebody else. He wrote
Speaker 7: My Girl and gave it to the Temptations. I mean,
Speaker 7: whoa talk about selfless? Yeah, I mean that is really
Speaker 7: really amazing. I've met for presidents of the United States.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: I mean, this job allows you access to people.
Speaker 4: From all different walks of life, really does.
Speaker 7: I can't say to you that I have a ton
Speaker 7: of celebrity friends. I do have some celebrity friendly acquaintances.
Speaker 7: You know, it's fun to see somebody on TV that
Speaker 7: you know, or you know, go to a movie and see.
Speaker 3: Somebody you know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I've said this to you before. The
Speaker 1: Sopranos is one of my favorite shows of all time.
Speaker 1: It might be my favorite show of all time.
Speaker 7: It certainly it certainly was during it. Well, actually it
Speaker 7: kind of ignited a certain golden age of television.
Speaker 1: Well I watched it after it had been out.
Speaker 2: That's because you're so young, or I was just really.
Speaker 1: Out of it with TV and paying attention to other things.
Speaker 1: But I loved it, and I rewatch it all the time.
Speaker 1: It is like the background noise in my apartment when
Speaker 1: I'm there. Diamond recently just watched it, and I think,
Speaker 1: did you like it?
Speaker 2: Just it?
Speaker 1: She loved it, But in the last episode. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it until I was rewatching it. Here you opened
Speaker 1: the last episode of that show.
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm a trivia question. Who spoke the first words
Speaker 7: on the very last episode of The Sopranos.
Speaker 3: That would be me?
Speaker 1: I know that guy.
Speaker 7: That would be me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. When I heard Jim Kerr the voice
Speaker 1: of New York, Oh my gosh, it was so cool.
Speaker 1: I just thought, how how did that even happen?
Speaker 7: I didn't what was I didn't know that it was
Speaker 7: going to be used that way. I recorded that for them.
Speaker 7: They didn't record that off the air. Oh wow, you
Speaker 7: know they had me record that for them. My assumption was, well,
Speaker 7: first of all, anything can end up not being in
Speaker 7: an episode, and I didn't know that it would be
Speaker 7: in the finale, And I assumed that maybe people would
Speaker 7: be driving somewhere, and maybe two people would be talking
Speaker 7: to one another in the car and in the background
Speaker 7: you might hear that coming through the radio. I mean
Speaker 7: that's what I thought. So I watched it alone. Had
Speaker 7: I known, you know, I would.
Speaker 3: Have had a party.
Speaker 1: I think we should have the party.
Speaker 7: I've watched it alone. I was sitting on the couch
Speaker 7: in my apartment turning on the last episode of The Sopranos,
Speaker 7: and I see the opening scene of Tony and his
Speaker 7: hat on the pillow. It's shot from above as he's
Speaker 7: in bed, and the alarm clock radio clicks on, and
Speaker 7: there's my poet, just so cool.
Speaker 1: I freaked out, did you what does a Jim car
Speaker 1: freak out?
Speaker 7: Well, there was nobody there to witness me freaking. I'm
Speaker 7: just it's like, what, you know, not saying it out loud,
Speaker 7: but saying it internally. It was just why didn't anybody
Speaker 7: tell me it was going to be so prominently featured,
Speaker 7: because literally I would have had some people over to
Speaker 7: watch TV with me.
Speaker 1: Because what a moment. I mean, I did the same
Speaker 1: thing when I realized it was you. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I see him every day. This is
Speaker 1: so cool. And then I said something to you the
Speaker 1: next day.
Speaker 7: And you know, during the run of the and during
Speaker 7: the run of The Sopranos, a lot of the cast
Speaker 7: members were very regular guests on my show, and I
Speaker 7: knew a whole bunch of them through the charity work
Speaker 7: that I do. Because for an ensemble group of actors,
Speaker 7: so many of them were involved in so many charitable events.
Speaker 7: I mean, it was pretty incredible. I would see them
Speaker 7: all over the place. I mean, the show, what they're talking,
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just you know, they were the hottest
Speaker 7: show on TV.
Speaker 1: Some people say they are still one of the hottest
Speaker 1: shows ever to have existed. I'm one of those people.
Speaker 1: It's still very significant. I think it is one of
Speaker 1: the shows that has actually aged well. And what a
Speaker 1: great episode to be part of. Debatively one of the
Speaker 1: craziest season finales series finales of all time. Were you
Speaker 1: surprised by the ending?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so was Steve Perry.
Speaker 1: Oh well yeah, because that song then had a resurgence right.
Speaker 7: Well, well, once again, he knew that they were going
Speaker 7: to use the song on the show, but he didn't
Speaker 7: know how it was going to be used. And the
Speaker 7: fact that it like.
Speaker 1: Abrupt please it's been twenty five years.
Speaker 7: No, just the the abrupt, and he didn't know it
Speaker 7: was going to be the ending. He didn't know it
Speaker 7: was going to be abrupt like that, just cut off
Speaker 7: and the screen goes dark and leaves the whole world
Speaker 7: hanging wondering what happened. And it was fun. It was
Speaker 7: fun when I when I last time I had him
Speaker 7: on the show, we were talking about how I was
Speaker 7: the first voice on the last episode and he was
Speaker 7: the last voice on the last episode.
Speaker 1: So Diamond, when she rewatched it, will you come over
Speaker 1: here to microphone for a second. Thank you? She watched it,
Speaker 1: and I was telling her, this is my favorite show.
Speaker 1: You have to watch it. And then I had her
Speaker 1: face time me as it was ending, because I wanted
Speaker 1: to watch her reaction to how it ended, and I
Speaker 1: recorded it. What are your thoughts, No, all these months,
Speaker 1: actually years at this point later, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the end?
Speaker 2: I'm still heartbroken because it lets my like they left
Speaker 2: way too much room from my mind to wander as
Speaker 2: to what happened, like why couldn't I see the gory stuff?
Speaker 1: Well? At this point, again spoiler alert on the way.
Speaker 1: At this point, David Chase has said how it ended.
Speaker 2: Well, he's implied, but I want to see him like
Speaker 2: slumped over in the you know, I want to see it.
Speaker 2: I want to see Willow's face. Is her name Willow Meadow, Meadow.
Speaker 2: I want to see Meto's face when she like runs
Speaker 2: over there, like I want to see that.
Speaker 1: They did a really good job of building that anticipation.
Speaker 1: But Diamond's face at the end of it, she said,
Speaker 1: wait it cut off.
Speaker 2: Wait it just no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you been part of other TV shows, movies?
Speaker 1: I would imagine what that voice. You've been in some stuff.
Speaker 7: Well, I've been on you know, television, You've been on television. Really,
Speaker 7: I was on As the World Turns, I was on
Speaker 7: The Guiding Lights Go On.
Speaker 2: And what was your character? What were your characters?
Speaker 7: Well, in As the World Turns, I was a flower
Speaker 7: vendor selling flowers to somebody just before they got.
Speaker 1: Killed, like the Merchant of Death.
Speaker 7: Well, somebody asked me just to do that as a favor, Okay,
Speaker 7: so I did that. But then the Guiding Light thing
Speaker 7: was a tie in with my radio station that I
Speaker 7: worked at at the time, and they created a character
Speaker 7: for me.
Speaker 3: It was very easy.
Speaker 7: You know, actors are extraordinarily talented people. How they do
Speaker 7: what they do is kind of beyond my comprehension. How
Speaker 7: they really embody a character that's different from their own
Speaker 7: and do it so convincingly. It takes a great deal
Speaker 7: of talent to do that that I don't have. The
Speaker 7: writer was for writers were kind enough to me to
Speaker 7: create a character named Jim who was going into the
Speaker 7: bar to talk to some of his friends, sit down
Speaker 7: to have a drink, chat up a very beautiful young
Speaker 7: woman and get the brush off. So I didn't have
Speaker 7: to do any acting. It was just like the most
Speaker 7: normal thing in the world. And everybody thought that it
Speaker 7: was so convincing, but it was just you know, life, just.
Speaker 1: You and you pull it off me. So we should
Speaker 1: add soap opera star to your resume. No, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: going to it's happening. You know what I'm going to
Speaker 1: do because there's another Jim Kerr. I'm sure you know this,
Speaker 1: a singer. Oh yeah, yeah, And I'm steal in all
Speaker 1: of the bios everywhere.
Speaker 7: We ruined each other. We ruin each other's Google searches.
Speaker 7: He ruined it for me, and we've joked about that together.
Speaker 7: The two of us he's a really nice guy. He's
Speaker 7: the guy who sang don't you forget about me? Simple minds? Oh,
Speaker 7: and that was in the Breakfast Club. It was the
Speaker 7: theme actually, the big song from that movie. And Trevor,
Speaker 7: producer of my show, gave chat Gpt the instructions to
Speaker 7: generate a bio for me, and it had my birthday right,
Speaker 7: and it had that I was born in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 7: And the bio mentioned that I hosted a morning radio
Speaker 7: show in New York City. And then the bio went
Speaker 7: on to say a Scottish rock and roll band that
Speaker 7: tours the world.
Speaker 1: I believe, honestly, if I saw that about you, I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I think you probably did that.
Speaker 7: But that's what I mean, that's what AI created from
Speaker 7: my biograph.
Speaker 1: I'm going to create one for you because now I've
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit of information. He's never going to
Speaker 1: write a book. He's a soap opera star. You're going
Speaker 1: to put all of these things together. Do you have
Speaker 1: a I'm sure you have many, But before I let
Speaker 1: you go, because I know that you need to go,
Speaker 1: do you have a highlight one thing when you think
Speaker 1: about your radio career or your life, something that has
Speaker 1: been able to put a smile on your face every
Speaker 1: time you think about it.
Speaker 7: You know, so many things go through my head. I
Speaker 7: would I would say being at my son's wedding, that
Speaker 7: was good. You know, raised him and there he was
Speaker 7: getting married, and that that.
Speaker 3: Was a good That was a real good feeling.
Speaker 7: And you can't conjure those kind of feelings up. They
Speaker 7: just happen, and this is then they become great memories.
Speaker 1: Whenever people describe you, because I've asked people about you,
Speaker 1: it is always using the most glowing terms. The one
Speaker 1: I hear the most is he is a gentleman, he
Speaker 1: is a gem, he is a national treasure. He has
Speaker 1: all of these things. And when you say you've had
Speaker 1: a fifty year career in radio with all these amazing highlights,
Speaker 1: Howard Stern interviewed you. We listened to it and here
Speaker 1: while that was happening, it was amazing, by the way,
Speaker 1: and the highlight of your life is watching your son
Speaker 1: get married. That says everything you need to know about
Speaker 1: Jim Carr the coolest. Well, thank you, thank you, thanks
Speaker 1: for sitting with me. Jim. I appreciate it. And guess
Speaker 1: what now I'm gonna come down there and Bucky way.
Speaker 7: More anytime you want.
Speaker 5: Why, Okay, don't we love him?
Speaker 2: Oh he's the best person ever. I just I could
Speaker 2: hug him. But I've never hugged him.
Speaker 1: You've never hugged him. No, you know I did hug him.
Speaker 1: I hugged him at the end of the podcast. I
Speaker 1: made him hugg me. Yeah, I made him.
Speaker 2: Love him.
Speaker 1: I already excited. But I feel like he's just cool and.
Speaker 2: He doesn't brag at all. He's very humble. You would
Speaker 2: never know all of the things that he does outside
Speaker 2: of here. I love that.
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot. I want to have Scotty inim because
Speaker 1: when we were doing this, Scotty's little lass was standing
Speaker 1: outside like waving at us, which he knows you don't
Speaker 1: wave at people when they're recording. And I didn't really
Speaker 1: know what he was talking. I didn't know what he
Speaker 1: was doing, what he was talking about. He texted Diamond
Speaker 1: that he wanted to come into the interview because Jim
Speaker 1: Carr is the only reason that he's in radio, and
Speaker 1: I feel really bad that I miss out on that.
Speaker 1: And I told him he could jump in at the
Speaker 1: beginning or the end of this. But I really don't
Speaker 1: know where he is right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well so that's Scottie not to come in.
Speaker 1: You did I know? You were like I told him
Speaker 1: not to come in so I can come in.
Speaker 2: Don't come in.
Speaker 1: And then also Jim is super encouraging and like very supportive.
Speaker 1: He is the person who makes it the top and
Speaker 1: sticks out his hand and tries to pull other people
Speaker 1: up with him. And I say that because I mean,
Speaker 1: we have a million examples. But when I won my
Speaker 1: first Grazie, I want to I did that in the
Speaker 1: vein of Andrew, the one I won the first one.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, oh, cool, like this
Speaker 1: is awesome whatever, I love it. I wanted grazy. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize what a big deal it was. And Jim
Speaker 1: was the person who pulled me aside and he said congratulations.
Speaker 1: I really appreciated it. But then he was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're really blowing this off. You need to take a minute,
Speaker 1: stop and breathe in that. People have said you are
Speaker 1: doing the best at what you do. You're doing the
Speaker 1: best at it. Do you understand that? And I was
Speaker 1: like no, And from there I became a monster.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, see how you take it too? Far.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I loved him curse so much. Anyway,
Speaker 1: to the conversation that Diamond really wanted to have. What
Speaker 1: were you asking people the other day?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm very nervous about having this conversation or being
Speaker 2: record or it being recorded.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to name any names. Okay, you
Speaker 1: can just say your own what you think and then
Speaker 1: will identify anonymous people.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think that all white people I have
Speaker 2: said the in word before. I don't think that it
Speaker 2: is with malicious intent. Some of them will, let's be clear, but.
Speaker 1: You're not getting everyone with that brush.
Speaker 2: No, I think that, Like, I know what it was
Speaker 2: like for me as a kid when I found out
Speaker 2: that I couldn't curse. I used to look in the
Speaker 2: mirror a fucktck bit shit, like like you literally whisper
Speaker 2: it in the mirror, just to see, like you know,
Speaker 2: my dad will let me curse, but like to everyone else,
Speaker 2: I couldn't curse, so I'd like I wanted to test
Speaker 2: the boundaries a little bit, right, Yeah, I think that
Speaker 2: that is the same thing as like a little white
Speaker 2: kid somewhere looking in the mirror knowing that they can't
Speaker 2: say it. They're not letting their parents know that they
Speaker 2: say it. They're probably not letting anybody else know that
Speaker 2: they're saying it. They say it in the mirror once,
Speaker 2: just to see what it feels like. What are you
Speaker 2: gonna do? Hate a little kid for testing the boundaries
Speaker 2: the same way that I did for saying like these
Speaker 2: other curse words or whatever. So I went around asking people,
Speaker 2: you don't have to say that you've said it recently.
Speaker 2: I hope that you haven't, or that you I hope
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't admit that to me. Let's just put
Speaker 2: it like that. But like as a kid, yeah, you
Speaker 2: said it before you knew what it meant, or like
Speaker 2: you knew the gravity of the words to certain people
Speaker 2: and why you shouldn't say it. There are some people
Speaker 2: who still say that they didn't they've never said it
Speaker 2: in their life, and I.
Speaker 3: Don't really believe.
Speaker 1: Oh really, we're talking about with the er or the
Speaker 1: see And that's another thing people wanted to get too deep.
Speaker 2: I don't. Well, the er is a no go, all.
Speaker 1: Right, But when you're saying like little kids, you think
Speaker 1: everybody has said it? Do you think everybody has said it?
Speaker 1: With a hard er?
Speaker 2: I don't think that they know any better, Like I
Speaker 2: don't think they would know the difference at that point.
Speaker 2: Like I'm thinking of a little kid, okay for Max,
Speaker 2: Like these kids learn words and hey, listen, I don't
Speaker 2: know where they're hearing it.
Speaker 1: Of course you know, but you're not gonna read it anymore.
Speaker 1: So actually you probably still are allowed to read that. That
Speaker 1: probably didn't get any books banned.
Speaker 2: Well, there are some really good books with that word.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. We're gonna do block it out?
Speaker 2: You remember, never mind? God, remember like when you were
Speaker 2: reading things in class and they had like words blocked out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you're trying to figure out what the
Speaker 2: word was, hello, what are you gonna do? Block it out?
Speaker 3: Ever?
Speaker 1: What I have for sure South Florida where I came
Speaker 1: into to being a human basically, and that was you know,
Speaker 1: high school college.
Speaker 2: We used to rap.
Speaker 1: Along all the time, say it all the time in
Speaker 1: rap songs. And when I tell you, down there, everybody
Speaker 1: uses that word toward a man, toward a woman. What
Speaker 1: are your white, black, Hispanic, Chinese? It doesn't matter. That's
Speaker 1: just how everybody down there addresses each other in that context. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely I did and I didn't realize, to be completely honest,
Speaker 1: which is wild, how wild it was that everybody was
Speaker 1: doing that Until you leave that area and you say
Speaker 1: something and people are like, what.
Speaker 2: Did you just say?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, oh okay, but if you go down there,
Speaker 1: nobody would think twice about it.
Speaker 2: I'd be lying if I said that I didn't say
Speaker 2: words that I shouldn't have been saying. Didler a community
Speaker 2: of people which second lot of Okay, Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: this something of the past. Okay, we're talking in past. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a few different communities were. Yeah, but I've grown and
Speaker 2: that's the thing I mean. Okay, I think that we
Speaker 2: need to give people grace, right, which is why I'm like,
Speaker 2: you don't have to lie about the fact that you've
Speaker 2: said it before. You know better now, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So I was a kid, Hell yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, and I will say this
Speaker 1: is a fact, I promise you. I have never in
Speaker 1: my life heard my mom, my dad, or my sister
Speaker 1: say either version of really, not one of them. Never.
Speaker 2: Humhmm.
Speaker 1: I can't even like I'm trying to picture it right now.
Speaker 1: I can't even picture what it would be like coming
Speaker 1: out of any of their mouths. WHOA, Yeah, my sister
Speaker 1: is married to a black man, so not that that matters.
Speaker 1: I was just that person that's like, I have a
Speaker 1: black friend. I would never please.
Speaker 2: Please don't get me started on those. Okay, you don't
Speaker 2: get me started.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I should also say quickly, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's mixed, so he has black and whites.
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's another thing we were talking about that
Speaker 2: like who gets a pass? Okay. I don't really think
Speaker 2: that anyone should be saying the word just because it's like,
Speaker 2: what's the point, Just leave it alone. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean I don't slip up when I'm around certain people.
Speaker 1: It is what it is, And I told you opposite.
Speaker 1: I think everybody should say the word all the time
Speaker 1: because I know you're never gonna agree. I think the
Speaker 1: more you say something, the more anything is in popular culture.
Speaker 1: Whatever that thing is, whether it's a word, it's a
Speaker 1: piece of clothing, it's a song, it gets devalued. I
Speaker 1: hate that there's a word out there that triggers people
Speaker 1: so badly that they will fight, Like people will absolutely
Speaker 1: throw down. They don't care if they go to jail.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. There's a word out there that people
Speaker 1: let push them to that brink. I just wish it
Speaker 1: didn't have that value, and I feel like the only
Speaker 1: way to devalue it is just put it out there everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever going to happen, though, move
Speaker 2: to South Florida. I think at one point I probably
Speaker 2: would have agree read with you, but I just feel like, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I think now it. People do it and say these
Speaker 2: like this word just to irritate other people, and I
Speaker 2: get exactly what you're saying, but it's just like, well,
Speaker 2: why can't you, the person who uses it with malicious intent,
Speaker 2: just be a better person. Well, for sure, I don't
Speaker 2: like like like, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: That absolutely and unreasonable expectations. There are just ship heads
Speaker 1: in the world who are going to be shitheads forever
Speaker 1: because they were born a shithead, they were raised by
Speaker 1: ship heads to be a shithead, and they're gonna die
Speaker 1: a shithead. I don't know. I say this all the time.
Speaker 1: The things that really bother me, you will see no
Speaker 1: reaction from me if it happens, because I don't ever
Speaker 1: want people to know that that thing bothers me enough
Speaker 1: that you can keep saying it.
Speaker 2: Strength. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1: Maybe weakness. I don't know. To not let people know
Speaker 1: something that bothered me, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I used to think that. No, I don't know how
Speaker 2: I feel about that. Actually, you know, people.
Speaker 1: Call us the sand End mom all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you wouldn't let anybody know that that bothered you.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me. I'm not gonna please. First of all,
Speaker 1: if you're saying that, what kind of person are you?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let a person like that bother me?
Speaker 2: Please? I mean, I get it, but yeah, no, we're
Speaker 2: throwing down, we're doing it.
Speaker 1: You want Diamond to fight drop the ward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, but she.
Speaker 1: Asked everybody around here. I think most people were pretty
Speaker 1: honest about it. I really want to hear off the
Speaker 1: air who said that they never said it, because I
Speaker 1: want to hear if I believe it or not.
Speaker 2: You won't believe it, trust me? Oh don't believe it?
Speaker 1: Girl or guy guy notorious liar? Yes, I have guesses
Speaker 1: and on that. If people want to find Diamond and
Speaker 1: debate this, where can they find you?
Speaker 3: At?
Speaker 2: Diamond sincere on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And I am at baby Hot Sauce on Instagram. Oh,
Speaker 1: next time we need to talk about threads. Oh, threads
Speaker 1: is the same dumpster fire that Twitter was, if anybody
Speaker 1: was wondering. And uh yeah, we'll be back for episode thirty,
Speaker 1: apparently from the Road, with Diamond breaking down about it.
Speaker 2: Oh God, no, please say bye bye.