WEBVTT - Why Are You Teary?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? It's us on the side. Oh oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this might be episode thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I'm not one hundred percent sure on that. I

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<v Speaker 1>should probably check that information before I just say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels right to me, Like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember logging episode twenty nine and writing twenty nine, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been for this night.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually like the fact that can you keep this

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<v Speaker 2>in just in case?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you if I'm gonna go check right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna leave it in anyway. Tell me something that's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind, Diamond, Well, I go.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, well, I'm doing an overnight shift tonight, and I

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<v Speaker 2>value my sleep way too much to stay up all night,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I have to like do the overnight right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I usually go to bed around four pm. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't play that's file a Roson, Do not disturb okay,

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<v Speaker 2>boom okay by five at least I'm knocked out.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people hit the notify anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>No one, Because i'mlike you, you everybody else in my

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<v Speaker 2>life is normal. I don't do that to you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but you would. I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I do it to other people. I should do it

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<v Speaker 1>to you more often so that you are included in

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<v Speaker 1>the circle. Oh fun fact, this is not episode thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Please tell me it's twenty eight, twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not that stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's it's my birthday episode? Then why this will

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<v Speaker 2>probably be No, won't be the last one before.

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<v Speaker 1>Dropping on Wednesday, August twenty first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so hard. No, I'm all the way off,

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<v Speaker 2>but yolo, so real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of things. I always say this, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it again, and this is proof you are, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest working person.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are always.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting in time here. I don't know why, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>do know why. You're doing the right thing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. But two, when you celebrate your birthday for

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<v Speaker 1>a month because you have a birthday month right all

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<v Speaker 1>of September or is it August twelfth to September twelfth.

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<v Speaker 2>And then October twelfth, I don't play. It's literally probably

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<v Speaker 2>all a fall because I don't stop. Follow is my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm not gonna celebrate that, right you can there, No,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be forced. Okay, So while we're on our trip,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna tell people it's my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Oh that's right, because this is a big birthday

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<v Speaker 1>for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We celebrate all year long. I don't think you understand

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<v Speaker 2>the trips I listen. I don't know. Chase is probably

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<v Speaker 2>very upset with me because I've just been putting everything

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<v Speaker 2>on the card. Well, oh yeah, I hated myself. You

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<v Speaker 2>know whatever. You're borrowing the money from them, whatever, I

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<v Speaker 2>live in life. Whatever, Man, where's the trip? So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to Arizona for my actual birthday. I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 2>wellness retreat.

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<v Speaker 4>So much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are you coming?

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm invited?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you want to be most definitely invited. And

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get a head count because I'm making souvenirs.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'll tell you I'm so excited. Okay, uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going there and then or we're going there

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<v Speaker 2>and then. Uh. For the next few months, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing little things, like I'm thinking about planning

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<v Speaker 2>a trip to Chicago. I've been saying that I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go for a really long time. And then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to like Rowan Oak, Virginia, which wouldn't necessarily be

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<v Speaker 2>on my list, but we're going to celebrate my cousin's

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<v Speaker 2>husband's birthday. He doesn't know, but it's my birthday too.

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<v Speaker 1>So say you're gonna let someone else to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but we're going to a Virginia Tech game, huge tailgate,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. So you know you have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of celebrations. Yeah, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 5>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I'm thinking and I would like to know your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on this, and probably get Andrew and Josh too.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the next episode, episode thirty, actually is

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<v Speaker 1>episode thirty. I feel like we should do a little

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<v Speaker 1>quick like, hey, we're heading out on the road recap,

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<v Speaker 1>or do we just ignore while we're on vacation and

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<v Speaker 1>not do a podcast at all?

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<v Speaker 2>If we did an Instagram live instead that Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what your little friend Andrew is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do. Oh, this man wants to bring the

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<v Speaker 1>roadcaster and record an episode on the road. Okay, hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, I'm gonna get him, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like what, Okay, he's coming, he's coming. Hi, he's

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<v Speaker 2>actually running. Oh, you guys are matching today.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been matching a lot lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Loser burd Ernie over here with the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Andrew, Andrew came in sausages, sassy, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just told Diamond that for the road trip,

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<v Speaker 1>you were thinking about maybe bringing the roadcaster and doing

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>She immediately shut it down.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well, then guess what it saw us on the

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<v Speaker 6>side with Gandhi and special guest Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>And Josh and Josh unless Josh doesn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an ab situation and you can see yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Against me.

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<v Speaker 4>Haha.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, that's not your stuff. That was from like nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I use it on him.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, okay, So Diamond, why do you not want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, you almost hit me with the microphone. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that it's going to be a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be fun because everything we do is a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could just see tempers flaring, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it'll be fun to do one or two,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe three little podcasts on the road, keeping listeners updated

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<v Speaker 6>about our trip in a way that not only helps

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<v Speaker 6>Gandhi's podcast, but it helps our listeners get content while

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<v Speaker 6>we're on vacation. Sorry, I'm looking up for the show

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<v Speaker 6>and also for the better interest of Gandhi's podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, here's as producer.

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<v Speaker 4>You might want to start doing the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my question, who is editing it? You're putting all

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<v Speaker 2>that on Gandhi.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no editing. It's literally just guess what. This is

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<v Speaker 6>a sauce on the side on the road edition. We're

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<v Speaker 6>not editing it, and guess what. Whatever we say flies,

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<v Speaker 6>So good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually a lot of Russian Roulette we're playing over here.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be that crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it would be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>I've done this before with podcasts on the road. It's

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<v Speaker 6>very simple. We don't Gandhi doesn't require much, so it'll

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<v Speaker 6>be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I don't know if I appreciate that Gandhi doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>require much thing. I'm gonna have to think about how

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<v Speaker 1>you meant that.

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<v Speaker 6>It means that you are easy to work with and

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<v Speaker 6>you would understand the on the fly method that we

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<v Speaker 6>would be using because it's for the best interest of

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<v Speaker 6>your show that it just needs to go up in

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<v Speaker 6>a timely manner, not that oh oh my god, should

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<v Speaker 6>be worried about taking this part out or editing this. No,

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be twenty quick minutes of the four

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<v Speaker 6>of us talking, Oh my god, what do we do today?

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<v Speaker 6>Here's what we did? Upload boom done?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's bringing the mics? Me?

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<v Speaker 4>I have everything?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the only thing that I said. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I just feel badly that you are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to bring all this stuff with you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure Andrew's like a carry on type too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he just brings one bag and flies with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But then if you have to bring that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Too, what you do, I'll be fine. I could bring

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<v Speaker 4>two you're allowed to.

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<v Speaker 6>I have my roller backpack which i'll put my roller

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<v Speaker 6>luggage that I could just throw the road caster in. Two.

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<v Speaker 4>I have the mics, and then we'll be good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I'm not appollosed to it, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>said I don't want to make everybody else have to

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<v Speaker 1>do this if that's not something that they want to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I think we just need to get the details hammered

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<v Speaker 6>out one, two, maybe three.

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<v Speaker 4>If we're feeling sassy, go for it.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that would be really fun to give

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<v Speaker 6>people like an inside look to our trip while we're

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<v Speaker 6>on the road.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think, producer Diamond?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, amazing, great cheers.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can hear your eye roll on the microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think that Andrew is such a loser.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I care about my job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Sorry, here we go, and so sorry. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to never mind, I almost incriminated myself. Never mind,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna back up. What Yeah, I just can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>to put a pillow over his face while he's sleeping. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>scare them a little bit. I wouldn't kill you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, guess what, you might not find the details out

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<v Speaker 6>about it because Diamond doesn't want to record while we're

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<v Speaker 6>on the trip. So sorry, guys, you'll just have to

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<v Speaker 6>hear about it after not in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>If she tries to sulifocate you, I will go Instagram live.

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<v Speaker 1>That is my promise to everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Oh, no, do we have the equipment, Diamond, do

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<v Speaker 4>we have the equipment to do that? Oh, she probably

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To Instagram live. Oh come on, babe, let's get it together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited to be on the road with this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exciting. And Josh doesn't even hear yet. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know Josh is the most trouble of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, noise canceling headphones. So happy to have them,

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<v Speaker 2>so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want noise canceling headphones on a trail. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear the crackling of the branches when the

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<v Speaker 1>bear's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, terrified, I'm terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Andrew, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out, get out as you were.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you doing out there? I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>were you doing out there? Son of the co party?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just working.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sorry, everywhere I go is the party.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out?

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, see you later.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Shall we talk about that? You want to talk about that? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Pause.

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<v Speaker 1>First, let's bring in Jim Carr, who we all love,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of this episode there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you have got to hear that Diamond believes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay to Jim Kerr.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm sitting with one of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 1>in this building. I don't know if you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that, Jim?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 5>You are.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said that to multiple people.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you. I haven't heard that actually in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Really yes, I don't believe that. We just celebrated. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated you being on the air for fifty years in

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<v Speaker 1>New York City in March.

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<v Speaker 7>Right in the mornings, in New York mornings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's insane. Do you stop and pinch yourself, like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I.

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<v Speaker 7>Went on the radio the first time when I was fourteen.

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<v Speaker 7>When I was nineteen, I was working in Chicago when

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<v Speaker 7>I was nineteen twenty, and then they transferred me to

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<v Speaker 7>New York to do the morning show on their radio

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<v Speaker 7>station that ABC owned at the time, WPLJ, which was,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, a rock station, current rock station. Classic rock

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<v Speaker 7>hadn't been invented yet because not enough time had gone by.

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<v Speaker 5>It was rock.

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<v Speaker 7>And my goal was to last a year and then

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<v Speaker 7>I could hold my head up high, go back to Michigan,

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<v Speaker 7>where I'm from, and spend the rest of my life

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<v Speaker 7>bragging to my friends that I worked in New York once.

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<v Speaker 7>So that was the goal. It didn't work out the

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<v Speaker 7>way I planned.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you failed, Yeah, you failed it.

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<v Speaker 7>Failing fifty years later and still on the radio in

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<v Speaker 7>the morning in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have that voice when you were fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, no, Well I loved the radio. Okay, when I

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<v Speaker 7>was in the second grade, my teacher, Missus Douglas, took

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<v Speaker 7>our class in a field trip and we went to

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<v Speaker 7>WWJ AMFM and TV in downtown Detroit and it was

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<v Speaker 7>just really exciting, and I thought, Wow, grown ups can

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<v Speaker 7>have a job like this. This is where I want

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<v Speaker 7>to be. I mean, I didn't know what I wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to be. I just knew that that was what I loved.

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<v Speaker 7>I couldn't wait until adulthood. I just couldn't wait. And

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<v Speaker 7>when I was fourteen, I went around to several radio

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<v Speaker 7>stations in Detroit, you know, talk to people who worked there.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of the people there were very nice, let me,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, watch them work on the air, and talk

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<v Speaker 7>to some management people who gave me advice on what

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<v Speaker 7>courses to take and what I should learn. But that

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<v Speaker 7>was a long way off. I couldn't wait that long. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>So finally I picked up on my little transistor radio

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<v Speaker 7>a station in a town called Ipsilanti, Michigan, and it was,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, way at the end of the dial at

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen twenty. It was only on during the day, and

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<v Speaker 7>I thought to myself, maybe those little, tiny radio stations

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<v Speaker 7>can use someone like me. So I took the Greyhound

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<v Speaker 7>bus to Ipsilanti, and I met with their general manager,

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<v Speaker 7>and I guess he wanted to let the young kid

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<v Speaker 7>down gently, because he said, Oh, you can be on

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<v Speaker 7>the radio. We could probably find a place for you,

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<v Speaker 7>but we'll let you be on the radio for one

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<v Speaker 7>hour if you can sell sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>Dollars worth of commercials.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, if you sell one hundred and twenty dollars worth

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<v Speaker 7>of commercials, we'll let you be on for two hours,

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<v Speaker 7>and so on and so forth, and then I would

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<v Speaker 7>get a fifteen percent commission. Yeah, okay, I would get

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<v Speaker 7>a fifteen percent commission. And I expect that he thought

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<v Speaker 7>that would be the last that he would see me.

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<v Speaker 7>But every day after school I would either take the

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<v Speaker 7>bus or hitchhike to Ipsilanti, and I went to every

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<v Speaker 7>drug store and dry cleaner and real estate office and

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<v Speaker 7>diner and carpet store to try to sell these radio commercials.

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<v Speaker 7>And the commercials weren't very expensive, and I was going

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<v Speaker 7>to write them all so they didn't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 7>So a couple of weeks went by, Oh, and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of people did purchase the advertising for me. I

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<v Speaker 7>guess they wanted to help the little fourteen year old

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<v Speaker 7>kid walking around with a briefcase wearing a suit, not

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<v Speaker 7>a briefcase. So I went back to see mister Hadley

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<v Speaker 7>at the station and I said, okay, I've sold eight

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<v Speaker 7>hundred dollars worth of commercials.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight hundred yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So can I be on now?

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<v Speaker 7>And he said yes, and so on February eleventh, nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>sixty seven, I went on the air, and I've been

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<v Speaker 7>on the air ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>So two questions about what you just said. One, did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever go back and tell missus Douglas? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what her name was?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think I did.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you never told her no, okay? And do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember the first spots that you sold? What they were for?

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<v Speaker 7>The first spot I sold was four or the Gift Gallery,

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<v Speaker 7>which was in the basement concourse of the Westland shopping Center.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, they had different different gifts like frames for

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<v Speaker 7>your photographs, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, just yeah sort of stuff like tochkey type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 7>And eventually they took over my advertising accounts, took them

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<v Speaker 7>away from me, and they started paying me. So I

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<v Speaker 7>was getting fifty bucks a week nineteen sixty seven, dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>I was in the eighth grade and junior high was.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty good ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you really popular at school because of this?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Did people know?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Wow, But it wasn't It wasn't a radio station that

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<v Speaker 7>my schoolmates would be interested in listening to.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of music was it?

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<v Speaker 7>My show when I first started was on Saturdays, and

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<v Speaker 7>I played you know, top forty, pop, rock, R and B.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, it was kind of a mix and match.

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<v Speaker 7>It was a small town radio station. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 7>Detroit market station. And then I'd come back into my

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<v Speaker 7>go to school world live in the suburbs of Detroit,

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<v Speaker 7>and it was like two different existences.

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<v Speaker 1>What did your parents think of all of this?

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<v Speaker 7>I can't say that they were real encouraging because I

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<v Speaker 7>just don't think they understood it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were the Indian that sounds familiar?

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<v Speaker 7>Why did you have a problem?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 7>Were they upset when you decided you were going.

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<v Speaker 1>To Absolutely they weren't. So they weren't outwardly upset because

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be supportive. But my dad, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so excited when I got the job, and my dad said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. I hope it doesn't detract you from

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing your real aspirations and finding a real career.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like, and what did your dad what

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<v Speaker 7>did what did he think your career should be?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, of course they would have loved me to be

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor of some sort a position or a surgeon.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody else in the family did that.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so you should talk to Carol Miller sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>and her younger sister became a physician.

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<v Speaker 1>My older sister became her practitioner, so you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that was like, Yes, thank god for the other sibling.

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<v Speaker 1>But your parents were not super excited about it.

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<v Speaker 7>No, because it seemed like just you know, a kid,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, doing something weird, and how long will it last?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there ever a point that they said, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, not really, because well my mom died when I

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<v Speaker 7>was still a teenager, and then my dad we were estranged,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So so there's never been a circle back with any

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Let me tell you something, Jim, I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to research you online. You are elusive, like Bigfoot, even

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<v Speaker 1>our own companies. I went to your radio station's website.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no bio.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a picture of you and your co host there's

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<v Speaker 1>no bio. The only place I found even a little

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<v Speaker 1>blurb was from the Broadcasters Hall of Fame announcement. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the Radio Hall of Fame, Radio Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Hall of Fame. Yes, I saw that there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was two sentences that I already knew. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Jim, he must have a book. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a book. Are you going to write a book?

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm not going to write.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you have so many stories? I promise people would

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear. Why no book?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if people want to hear stories that I tell,

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<v Speaker 7>they can turn on the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Where would they find you?

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<v Speaker 7>Jim at one oh four point three on the FM

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<v Speaker 7>Island New York or on the free iHeartRadio app. iHeartRadio

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<v Speaker 7>even provides me with my wardrobe. I see that I'm

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<v Speaker 7>wearing company issued clothing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun fact, Jim is on at the same time we're on,

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<v Speaker 1>so at the moment, I'm promoting competition, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>But the great thing, one of the great things about

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<v Speaker 7>working here is that you know we're all together, We're

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<v Speaker 7>all playing in the same band. We had a little

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<v Speaker 7>problem with my show this morning because of a technical

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<v Speaker 7>difficulty that caused Shelley Sunstein to be unable to be

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<v Speaker 7>on our show after the first hour. There was a

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<v Speaker 7>technical failure. She was working from home. I had on

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<v Speaker 7>my show this morning, DJ ANDV from Power and one

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<v Speaker 7>oh five point one. Okay, we ran down the hall

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<v Speaker 7>to the twenty four to seven newsroom and grabbed Jacqueline

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<v Speaker 7>Carl to come in and do the news. But the

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<v Speaker 7>fact is, you know, we're often participating in one another's shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 7>It's cool and it's fun, and it's a nice group

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<v Speaker 7>of people.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I was very surprised by

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<v Speaker 1>when I came here and you are part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>was how welcoming and kind everybody was, because places that

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<v Speaker 1>I had been previous to this that was not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought, when I get to New York City, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be the worst. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>so full of themselves because it's the top of the mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the smoothest transition. And you were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who was nice to me first and

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel very comfortable. I think I've told you

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<v Speaker 1>this before. You remind me of somebody who I used

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<v Speaker 1>to work with, who I love very much. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the host of the first show that I was part

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<v Speaker 1>of in Columbus, Ohio. I still talk to him all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but every time I see you, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to squeeze you because you remind me of Dave

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<v Speaker 1>and you are kind to me like Dave.

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<v Speaker 7>What did you like Columbus, Ohio?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>I just want you to know and this, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>this hopefully will not shatter our relationship. But I worked

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<v Speaker 7>in ann Arbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I knew it. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. It

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<v Speaker 1>will not shatter our relationship because you can't change the best.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you must have been so excited when when you

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<v Speaker 7>came to New York and joined Elvis Duran and the

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<v Speaker 7>Morning Show. Most of your predecessors in the role that

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<v Speaker 7>you assumed moved on to shows of their own. Is

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<v Speaker 7>that a goal for you someday if I have to,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm talking about a goal for the future. Or do

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<v Speaker 7>you like being part of the ensemble? Well, of course

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<v Speaker 7>you love being part of the ensemble because you know

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<v Speaker 7>you're an important part of it and it's lots of fun.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, in your own aspirational mode, would you

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<v Speaker 7>like the Gandhi show?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah? I see what you're doing here, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>flipping the interview on me, You're good at that gym.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really enjoy being part of a group with

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<v Speaker 1>other people. I like playing off of other people. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite podcast episodes that I do because this

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<v Speaker 1>is technically me branching out and doing my own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when I can include Diamond and Andrew and

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<v Speaker 1>we can have conversations together. Of course, I love interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>guests and talking to them, but the dynamic of being

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<v Speaker 1>with other people, I really enjoy that. So what I

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<v Speaker 1>like the money that comes from it. Just being myself, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I really like this. I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, you know Diamond, speaking of Diamond, Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>Diamond is a gem here on this floor because all

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<v Speaker 7>of us get up really early. I probably get up

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<v Speaker 7>a little earlier than you because my show starts at five,

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<v Speaker 7>So I get up at three and I come in

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<v Speaker 7>here to work. And every morning, no matter what, Diamond

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<v Speaker 7>has the biggest, warmest smile. You know, it just makes

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<v Speaker 7>you feel good when she says good morning to you all.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>For the record, Diamond is sitting here being very quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you like to say anything about that?

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<v Speaker 5>Ms?

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper, there she is.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Jim, But you know what I'm talking about. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>you could end up. I've worked at places where you

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.359
<v Speaker 7>walk in and people are grumpy. Oh yeah, you know.

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 7>I come in here and she's one of the first

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 7>people I see, because she arrives here, you know, before

0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:24.400
<v Speaker 7>the show goes on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes she does overnights.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, yes, But I love the radio, and I've

0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 7>been so fortunate and so lucky to be able to,

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, actually make a living doing what I love

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<v Speaker 7>so much. Because I now this may sound a little strange,

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe I should be talking to a therapist

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:47.719
<v Speaker 7>about this instead of talking to you about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Gandhi, I mean it.

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<v Speaker 7>But I really honestly believe that I have about a

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:59.960
<v Speaker 7>million friends. I really do. I love the people who listen,

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<v Speaker 7>and I care about them. I want to be a

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<v Speaker 7>good companion. I want to help wake them up in

0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.520
<v Speaker 7>a good mood. I am so appreciative if they're listening

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:11.360
<v Speaker 7>in the morning, while they're getting dressed, or while they're

0:22:11.440 --> 0:22:16.160
<v Speaker 7>driving to the train station, overnight, workers coming home, whatever

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 7>it is, the fact that they've allowed me to be

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 7>a part of their life just makes me feel fantastic.

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<v Speaker 7>Every once in a while, you know, because there's a

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<v Speaker 7>certain anonymity to.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio until you open your mouth and people are like,

0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I know that.

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<v Speaker 7>Every once in a while, something weird happens that makes

0:22:34.040 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 7>you feel really good inside. And I was on an

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<v Speaker 7>elevator earlier this week. I was wearing a T shirt

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.800
<v Speaker 7>that I bought that says raised on radio. Okay, So

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 7>that was what the T shirt said, It said raised

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.359
<v Speaker 7>on radio, And there was like a little drawing of

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 7>a radio okay. And there were two women and two

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 7>men and a little boy and a stroller. So I

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 7>got on the elevator and the little boy looked at

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:03.200
<v Speaker 7>me and went and I said, why, thank you so much,

0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 7>and how are you doing today?

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 3>And he said wow.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I said that's about the most enthusiastic greeting

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 7>that I've received in a long long time. And then

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 7>one of the women said, looking at my shirt, you

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 7>sound like a radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you tell it?

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.919
<v Speaker 7>And I said I do, and she said yes, and

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 7>I said, well, I work on the radio. And then

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 7>one of the men said what's your name? And I

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:35.080
<v Speaker 7>told them my name, and then the other woman said,

0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:38.959
<v Speaker 7>I'm sixty five years old. I've been listening to you

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<v Speaker 7>every day since I was fifteen years old. She said,

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 7>you have been a part of my life that long,

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 7>and well, I'm getting teary eyed.

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It's so true. You think you have a million friends.

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.880
<v Speaker 1>All those million people probably think you're their friend too.

0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Imagine fifty years of somebody's life, what that woman has

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 1>been through. You've been the constant through that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a great thing and it just makes me feel

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<v Speaker 7>really good. And you know, it's one of the motivating factors,

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 7>you know, to live a life where you get up

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 7>at three o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about that. You get it at three

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning. You're here, your show ends at nine, which,

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I appreciate you staying so much later

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to do the show with me today. Thank you for that.

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 7>Well, Gandhi, I would be here if it was five

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 7>in the afternoon.

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>As you say, then I'll take you up on the

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>offer one day. And by the way, I'm going to

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>start greeting you with a whack every time I see you.

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Since you liked it, but well I liked.

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<v Speaker 7>It from the little kid in the stroller. It would

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 7>be weird for me if it was if it was

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 7>if it was an adult woman looking at me and

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 7>doing that, that would be maybe a little a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out, Jim, We'll find out. But you get

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>it at three. You're done here at nine. What is

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your day like, because again you are elusive.

0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 7>Well, I do a lot of other things.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 3>I do volunteer. I do some volunteer work.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Do it.

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 7>What do you do well? I've been on the board

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 7>of directors of Heartshire Human Services of New York for

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't know, almost forty years. It's one of New

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 7>York's largest social service agencies, and it has a subsidiary agency,

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 7>HeartShare Wellness, which it provides medical services to people with

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 7>developmental disabilities who find it difficult to be served properly

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 7>in a normal physician's office. And some patients are nonverbal,

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 7>for instance, so they need specialized medical care. I'm chairman

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:34.719
<v Speaker 7>of the board of that organization. I'm also active in

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 7>our union. I'm vice president of the New York local

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 7>of Sagafterra. I'm on the national board of Sagafterra. I'm

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 7>actually overextended to tell you the truth.

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But I believe it.

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>I just want to know what it is because but.

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 7>I try to do things. Oh and I'm on the

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 7>board of directors of the Sagafter Foundation, which is separate

0:25:54.000 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 7>from the union, and we provide catastrophic medical care for

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 7>our stag after members. I could think of some more stuff.

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I bet you could. I want to hear all of it, though,

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.359
<v Speaker 1>because when I think about what is cool, things have

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 1>changed so much, and I think so many people try

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>all day to prove to you that I'm real cool.

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Especially with social media, people post all day what they're doing,

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>what they're eating, where they're going.

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, I've never been cool, not from you.

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>To me, you're the definition of cool.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 7>No, not from one single day of my life.

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>If I was going to think of somebody who is cool,

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like Jim Carl, He's a cool guy.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you've been Well, there's a difference.

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 7>You can say, oh, somebody's a cool guy. No, I

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 7>mean that doesn't mean someone's cool.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:38.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean like the emoji with the sunglasses.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 7>No no, no, no no no no no.

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It can't make me change my mind. That is what

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 1>I think. Back to this book that you're never going

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to write. I'm not going to try and force it

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>on you. However, now I'm going to harass you a

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 1>lot more because I know that you are just a

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>vault of cool stories. The guests that you have to

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 1>have interviewed over fifty years in New York City radio,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the things you have to have done and been part

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of the parties. I want to know all of that.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, there used to be a lot more parties.

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I heard. I heard the cocaine used to arrive in envelopes.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 7>I know nothing about that. And I you know, that's

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 7>another thing. I you know, when the cool kids were

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 7>getting into the whole that whole thing, I never did.

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I'm really rather conservative kind of guy. Yeah,

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 7>not even one time ever put in a legal drug

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 7>into my system.

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Now once you've never even smoked weed, Well now it's legal.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 7>No, now it's legal enough.

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 3>It's legal.

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.880
<v Speaker 7>And I hate the smell. I smoke cigarettes. I drink

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 7>way too much coffee. Cabinet is delicious. I don't need

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 7>to put anything else into my body that I might

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 7>potentially enjoy too much. So it's best just to all

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 7>not try it. Right, I have fun all the time.

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean there are things I don't.

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Understand, though, What don't you understand?

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 7>Okay, the radio station I work at Q one oh

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 7>four point three. We're a classic rock station. Looking at

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 7>the latest Nielsen ratings for the number two station in

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 7>the New York market. Congratulations, well, thank you, But we're

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 7>number three eighteen to thirty four year olds. We're number

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 7>one eighteen to thirty four year old men, and we're

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.239
<v Speaker 7>number one eighteen to forty nine year old men, and

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 7>we're number one twenty five to fifty four year old men.

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 7>We play sixty year old songs. Our regular playlist at

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 7>the station begins in nineteen sixty four, and the popularity

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 7>of that music among people who are so young fascinates

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 7>me because in nineteen sixty four, when I was eleven

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 7>and saw the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show on

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 7>a Sunday night and went to school the next day,

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 7>and the whole world had changed. We weren't listening to

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 7>songs that were hits in nineteen o four.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Were there recordings of those songs that were being played

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. No, okay, so we'll start there. It

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was different. Things are different now. I think everything old

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.479
<v Speaker 1>is new again. But anymore, I don't want to say

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>we've reached the end of creativity because that obviously is

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>never going to happen, but it does seem like so

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>many people are going back to the well and sampling things.

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>People like some of the stuff their parents listen to,

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and their parents might be listening to what their parents

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>listen to. So you hear these things and it feels

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>nice and nostalgic, and it's cool to have that stuff

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that was the.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 7>Original, right, except that we don't say we're in nostalgic

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 7>radio station. No, of course we don't say, because we

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 7>don't say nineteen sixty seven Solid Gold, here's Van Morris.

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 7>They No, we don't do that. We just play the

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 7>music because it's good. And you know, when I play

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 7>House of the Rising Sun by the Animals, that's sixty

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 7>years ago.

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 1>When you're naming these songs, I'm immediately thinking of movies.

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Where have I have heard those songs? And I wonder

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>if that's a part of it too.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 3>It could be.

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 7>About as many people listen to the radio now as

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 7>listen decades ago. It's just that, because there are so

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 7>many other things going on, they listen for shorter periods

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 7>of time. Okay, but they're still there and they're still

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 7>with us, and we do have something very very special. Gandhi,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 7>you and me, we have something very special that competitors

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 7>for people's time don't necessarily have. You know, Spotify has

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 7>its place in the world, and Pandora has its place

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 7>in the world. But Pandora can't be your friend. No,

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 7>I can be your friend.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that as a part the personalities. You don't

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>get those when.

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 7>You stream, and that's a fundamental difference. If you're just

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 7>streaming something that's coming just to you, it's you're alone

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 7>with the radio on. Not only do you have the

0:30:55.240 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 7>human that's on the radio who's a companion, but there

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 7>are thousands of other people who you don't even know,

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 7>who are experiencing the same thing at the same time.

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 7>So it's not a solitary experience. It's kind of a

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 7>group experience in an unusual kind of way. It gives

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 7>you kind of a psychic connection to a whole community

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 7>of people who like the same things that you do.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 7>And I think that's part of the beautiful magic of radio.

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 7>If it were invented today, people would be freaking out

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 7>over it, going this is amazing. I think your rus

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 7>is fantastic. It's free, it's portable, it's really cool. Who

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 7>came up with this great idea and it's consistent.

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You sell radio short when you don't realize that every

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>day you're getting new content, original content from people who

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>are there every day and show up consistently. You also

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>don't get that in a lot of other places. Even

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>TV shows, there's a season and then they take a

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>really long time off and a ton of people put

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort into that to curate something very pacific,

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and you kind of know what you're going to get.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>With radio. You don't know what you're going to get.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>You didn't know that Shelley Sunstein wasn't going to be

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>able to show up today.

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 7>No, I had no idea.

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 1>But on the fly you made it work.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 7>But we're here in real time. That's another thing. I

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 7>look out, you know, I may I may have a

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 7>piece of paper in front of me. I know, maybe

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 7>you use a computer screen, but I like paper. I

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 7>may have a piece of paper in front of me

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 7>that says sunshine today, high eighty two. And I may

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 7>look out the window and see that it's raining, so yes,

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 7>so I can fix it right then and there. You know,

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 7>the immediacy of the immediacy of it is. I think

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 7>one of its great advantages, and if something really important

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 7>happens that will impact people in a significant way, we

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 7>can inform them of that immediately.

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>So to that point, moments for you that stand out

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>in your mind as far as I was on the

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>radio when this happened, tell me.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 7>About John Lennon's assassination. That was December eighth, nineteen eighty

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 7>the Monday night football was on with Howard Cosell. I

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 7>had the radio on to my station, WPLJ. I was

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 7>just getting ready to go to bed and ABC News

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 7>but Looking came on saying that he had been shot

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 7>taken to Roosevelt Hospital, and the newscaster used this term

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 7>where he expired. So I put my clothes back on

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 7>and I went back to the radio station and we

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 7>spent all night calling people up and calling people who

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 7>knew John Lennon, and putting together a special show for

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 7>the next morning, which was my birthday.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 3>So that was the year I had no birthday.

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 7>And we were able to mourn together as a community

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 7>that day.

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That's a very big deal, and I'm sure that that

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>brings comfort to not only you, all the other people

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:48.959
<v Speaker 1>that get to do it with you. Because to your point,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you're all doing this one thing at the same time,

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and now we talk about this on the Big Show

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Loneliness is an epidemic. People are so lonely.

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>The more access you have to so much wh content,

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.959
<v Speaker 1>so many different people, the more isolating somehow things have become.

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's great to be able to share that with people.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So pieces of advice to the young baby DJs who

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.919
<v Speaker 1>want to follow in your footsteps and do things like you, Well,

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you tell them? We have interns here right now.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I know what do you tell them?

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 7>I tell them not to be discouraged. Believing in yourself

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 7>is probably the most important thing of all, because if

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 7>you believe in yourself, that will give you the confidence

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 7>to go forward and to try to experience the realization

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 7>of your dreams. And if you fail on that journey,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 7>you learn some things along the way, and you had

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:42.760
<v Speaker 7>some fun along the way.

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>So for you, do you feel like you've lived your dream?

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 7>I'm living it every day. I lived it this morning,

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:48.479
<v Speaker 7>I lived at a couple of hours ago.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:49.280
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I live it.

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.920
<v Speaker 7>When I walk by your window of your studio here

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 7>and wave at you in the morning.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't hype us up man, You're the cool one in

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>the building, I'm telling you. So, as far as guests go,

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>do you have a favorite or favorites? Do you have

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>people that came in and blew your mind?

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 7>Well? Yes, and I've had all different types of guests,

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 7>rock stars, and I've had country stars, and I've had

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 7>R and B stars and FOP stars and TV stars

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 7>and movies, TV stars and movie stars.

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I need names, any names that have blown your mind

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>in good ways, and maybe somebody who came in that

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you were like, please leave the studio.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 7>I've met John Paul and George.

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, but I've actually met four Beatles because I

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 7>met John, Paul, George, and Pete.

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>He was the original that got kicked out and replaced

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>with Ringo.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, okay, right.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I never met Ringo.

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 7>I was in a room with Ringo once, but I

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 7>on purpose didn't meet him because I wanted to still

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 7>have one that I hadn't met. Okay, if you understand,

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 7>if you understand what I mean, Smokey Robinson was over

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 7>at our sister station, Power one of five point one

0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 7>one day.

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I heard that he was on the floor.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 7>I went running down there like a maniac. I didn't

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 7>have him on my show, but I just wanted to

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 7>meet him. You know, one of the greatest I mean,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 7>besides a great performer, one of the greatest songwriters of

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 7>all time. I'm still trying to figure out how a

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 7>guy like Smokey Robinson can write a song like My

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 7>Girl and give it away to somebody else. He wrote

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 7>My Girl and gave it to the Temptations. I mean,

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 7>whoa talk about selfless? Yeah, I mean that is really

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 7>really amazing. I've met for presidents of the United States.

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 7>I mean, this job allows you access to people.

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 4>From all different walks of life, really does.

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.439
<v Speaker 7>I can't say to you that I have a ton

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 7>of celebrity friends. I do have some celebrity friendly acquaintances.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 7>You know, it's fun to see somebody on TV that

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 7>you know, or you know, go to a movie and see.

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Somebody you know.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that, I've said this to you before. The

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>Sopranos is one of my favorite shows of all time.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:01.479
<v Speaker 1>It might be my favorite show of all time.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 7>It certainly it certainly was during it. Well, actually it

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 7>kind of ignited a certain golden age of television.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Well I watched it after it had been out.

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 2>That's because you're so young, or I was just really.

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Out of it with TV and paying attention to other things.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>But I loved it, and I rewatch it all the time.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>It is like the background noise in my apartment when

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm there. Diamond recently just watched it, and I think,

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>did you like it?

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Just it?

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>She loved it, But in the last episode. I didn't

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>realize it until I was rewatching it. Here you opened

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.479
<v Speaker 1>the last episode of that show.

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 7>Yes, I'm a trivia question. Who spoke the first words

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.920
<v Speaker 7>on the very last episode of The Sopranos.

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 3>That would be me?

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I know that guy.

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 7>That would be me.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. When I heard Jim Kerr the voice

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.720
<v Speaker 1>of New York, Oh my gosh, it was so cool.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, how how did that even happen?

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 7>I didn't what was I didn't know that it was

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 7>going to be used that way. I recorded that for them.

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 7>They didn't record that off the air. Oh wow, you

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 7>know they had me record that for them. My assumption was, well,

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 7>first of all, anything can end up not being in

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 7>an episode, and I didn't know that it would be

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 7>in the finale, And I assumed that maybe people would

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.760
<v Speaker 7>be driving somewhere, and maybe two people would be talking

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 7>to one another in the car and in the background

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 7>you might hear that coming through the radio. I mean

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 7>that's what I thought. So I watched it alone. Had

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 7>I known, you know, I would.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Have had a party.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I think we should have the party.

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 7>I've watched it alone. I was sitting on the couch

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 7>in my apartment turning on the last episode of The Sopranos,

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 7>and I see the opening scene of Tony and his

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 7>hat on the pillow. It's shot from above as he's

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 7>in bed, and the alarm clock radio clicks on, and

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.600
<v Speaker 7>there's my poet, just so cool.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I freaked out, did you what does a Jim car

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>freak out?

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 7>Well, there was nobody there to witness me freaking. I'm

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:12.280
<v Speaker 7>just it's like, what, you know, not saying it out loud,

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 7>but saying it internally. It was just why didn't anybody

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 7>tell me it was going to be so prominently featured,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 7>because literally I would have had some people over to

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 7>watch TV with me.

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Because what a moment. I mean, I did the same

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>thing when I realized it was you. I was like, what,

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I see him every day. This is

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>so cool. And then I said something to you the

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>next day.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 7>And you know, during the run of the and during

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 7>the run of The Sopranos, a lot of the cast

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 7>members were very regular guests on my show, and I

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 7>knew a whole bunch of them through the charity work

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 7>that I do. Because for an ensemble group of actors,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 7>so many of them were involved in so many charitable events.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it was pretty incredible. I would see them

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 7>all over the place. I mean, the show, what they're talking,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's just you know, they were the hottest

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 7>show on TV.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Some people say they are still one of the hottest

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>shows ever to have existed. I'm one of those people.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>It's still very significant. I think it is one of

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the shows that has actually aged well. And what a

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>great episode to be part of. Debatively one of the

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>craziest season finales series finales of all time. Were you

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>surprised by the ending?

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and so was Steve Perry.

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh well yeah, because that song then had a resurgence right.

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, well, once again, he knew that they were going

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 7>to use the song on the show, but he didn't

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 7>know how it was going to be used. And the

0:40:37.080 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 7>fact that it like.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Abrupt please it's been twenty five years.

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 7>No, just the the abrupt, and he didn't know it

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 7>was going to be the ending. He didn't know it

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 7>was going to be abrupt like that, just cut off

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.240
<v Speaker 7>and the screen goes dark and leaves the whole world

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 7>hanging wondering what happened. And it was fun. It was

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 7>fun when I when I last time I had him

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 7>on the show, we were talking about how I was

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 7>the first voice on the last episode and he was

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 7>the last voice on the last episode.

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>So Diamond, when she rewatched it, will you come over

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 1>here to microphone for a second. Thank you? She watched it,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was telling her, this is my favorite show.

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 1>You have to watch it. And then I had her

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 1>face time me as it was ending, because I wanted

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to watch her reaction to how it ended, and I

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>recorded it. What are your thoughts, No, all these months,

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 1>actually years at this point later, how do you feel

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>about the end?

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm still heartbroken because it lets my like they left

0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 2>way too much room from my mind to wander as

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>to what happened, like why couldn't I see the gory stuff?

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Well? At this point, again spoiler alert on the way.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:48.439
<v Speaker 1>At this point, David Chase has said how it ended.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's implied, but I want to see him like

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>slumped over in the you know, I want to see it.

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I want to see Willow's face. Is her name Willow Meadow, Meadow.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to see Meto's face when she like runs

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 2>over there, like I want to see that.

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>They did a really good job of building that anticipation.

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>But Diamond's face at the end of it, she said,

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>wait it cut off.

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait it just no.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you been part of other TV shows, movies?

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine what that voice. You've been in some stuff.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, I've been on you know, television, You've been on television. Really,

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 7>I was on As the World Turns, I was on

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 7>The Guiding Lights Go On.

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And what was your character? What were your characters?

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, in As the World Turns, I was a flower

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 7>vendor selling flowers to somebody just before they got.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Killed, like the Merchant of Death.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, somebody asked me just to do that as a favor, Okay,

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 7>so I did that. But then the Guiding Light thing

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 7>was a tie in with my radio station that I

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 7>worked at at the time, and they created a character

0:42:59.560 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 7>for me.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 3>It was very easy.

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 7>You know, actors are extraordinarily talented people. How they do

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 7>what they do is kind of beyond my comprehension. How

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 7>they really embody a character that's different from their own

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 7>and do it so convincingly. It takes a great deal

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 7>of talent to do that that I don't have. The

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 7>writer was for writers were kind enough to me to

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 7>create a character named Jim who was going into the

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 7>bar to talk to some of his friends, sit down

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 7>to have a drink, chat up a very beautiful young

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 7>woman and get the brush off. So I didn't have

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.240
<v Speaker 7>to do any acting. It was just like the most

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 7>normal thing in the world. And everybody thought that it

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 7>was so convincing, but it was just you know, life, just.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>You and you pull it off me. So we should

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 1>add soap opera star to your resume. No, yes, I'm

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>going to it's happening. You know what I'm going to

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 1>do because there's another Jim Kerr. I'm sure you know this,

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>a singer. Oh yeah, yeah, And I'm steal in all

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of the bios everywhere.

0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 7>We ruined each other. We ruin each other's Google searches.

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 7>He ruined it for me, and we've joked about that together.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 7>The two of us he's a really nice guy. He's

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 7>the guy who sang don't you forget about me? Simple minds? Oh,

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 7>and that was in the Breakfast Club. It was the

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 7>theme actually, the big song from that movie. And Trevor,

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 7>producer of my show, gave chat Gpt the instructions to

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 7>generate a bio for me, and it had my birthday right,

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 7>and it had that I was born in Detroit, Michigan.

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 7>And the bio mentioned that I hosted a morning radio

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 7>show in New York City. And then the bio went

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 7>on to say a Scottish rock and roll band that

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 7>tours the world.

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe, honestly, if I saw that about you, I'd

0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>be like, I think you probably did that.

0:44:55.440 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 7>But that's what I mean, that's what AI created from

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 7>my biograph.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to create one for you because now I've

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>gotten a little bit of information. He's never going to

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 1>write a book. He's a soap opera star. You're going

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>to put all of these things together. Do you have

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>a I'm sure you have many, But before I let

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you go, because I know that you need to go,

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>do you have a highlight one thing when you think

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>about your radio career or your life, something that has

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 1>been able to put a smile on your face every

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:22.319
<v Speaker 1>time you think about it.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 7>You know, so many things go through my head. I

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 7>would I would say being at my son's wedding, that

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 7>was good. You know, raised him and there he was

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 7>getting married, and that that.

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Was a good That was a real good feeling.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 7>And you can't conjure those kind of feelings up. They

0:45:44.680 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 7>just happen, and this is then they become great memories.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Whenever people describe you, because I've asked people about you,

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it is always using the most glowing terms. The one

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I hear the most is he is a gentleman, he

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>is a gem, he is a national treasure. He has

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>all of these things. And when you say you've had

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a fifty year career in radio with all these amazing highlights,

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Howard Stern interviewed you. We listened to it and here

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.279
<v Speaker 1>while that was happening, it was amazing, by the way,

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and the highlight of your life is watching your son

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get married. That says everything you need to know about

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Jim Carr the coolest. Well, thank you, thank you, thanks

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>for sitting with me. Jim. I appreciate it. And guess

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>what now I'm gonna come down there and Bucky way.

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 7>More anytime you want.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:33.720
<v Speaker 5>Why, Okay, don't we love him?

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's the best person ever. I just I could

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>hug him. But I've never hugged him.

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>You've never hugged him. No, you know I did hug him.

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I hugged him at the end of the podcast. I

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>made him hugg me. Yeah, I made him.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Love him.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I already excited. But I feel like he's just cool and.

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't brag at all. He's very humble. You would

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>never know all of the things that he does outside

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 2>of here. I love that.

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh I forgot. I want to have Scotty inim because

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.720
<v Speaker 1>when we were doing this, Scotty's little lass was standing

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 1>outside like waving at us, which he knows you don't

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 1>wave at people when they're recording. And I didn't really

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>know what he was talking. I didn't know what he

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 1>was doing, what he was talking about. He texted Diamond

0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to come into the interview because Jim

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Carr is the only reason that he's in radio, and

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel really bad that I miss out on that.

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>And I told him he could jump in at the

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>beginning or the end of this. But I really don't

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>know where he is right now.

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well so that's Scottie not to come in.

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>You did I know? You were like I told him

0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not to come in so I can come in.

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Don't come in.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And then also Jim is super encouraging and like very supportive.

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>He is the person who makes it the top and

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>sticks out his hand and tries to pull other people

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.879
<v Speaker 1>up with him. And I say that because I mean,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>we have a million examples. But when I won my

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>first Grazie, I want to I did that in the

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 1>vein of Andrew, the one I won the first one.

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of like, oh, cool, like this

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>is awesome whatever, I love it. I wanted grazy. I

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize what a big deal it was. And Jim

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>was the person who pulled me aside and he said congratulations.

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciated it. But then he was like, no, no, no,

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you're really blowing this off. You need to take a minute,

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.399
<v Speaker 1>stop and breathe in that. People have said you are

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>doing the best at what you do. You're doing the

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>best at it. Do you understand that? And I was

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like no, And from there I became a monster.

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, see how you take it too? Far.

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I loved him curse so much. Anyway,

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to the conversation that Diamond really wanted to have. What

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>were you asking people the other day?

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm very nervous about having this conversation or being

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:34.720
<v Speaker 2>record or it being recorded.

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>But you don't have to name any names. Okay, you

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>can just say your own what you think and then

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:41.240
<v Speaker 1>will identify anonymous people.

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I think that all white people I have

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>said the in word before. I don't think that it

0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:55.839
<v Speaker 2>is with malicious intent. Some of them will, let's be clear, but.

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>You're not getting everyone with that brush.

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:00.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that, Like, I know what it was

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 2>like for me as a kid when I found out

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 2>that I couldn't curse. I used to look in the

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 2>mirror a fucktck bit shit, like like you literally whisper

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>it in the mirror, just to see, like you know,

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 2>my dad will let me curse, but like to everyone else,

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:16.239
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't curse, so I'd like I wanted to test

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:20.439
<v Speaker 2>the boundaries a little bit, right, Yeah, I think that

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that is the same thing as like a little white

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 2>kid somewhere looking in the mirror knowing that they can't

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 2>say it. They're not letting their parents know that they

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 2>say it. They're probably not letting anybody else know that

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 2>they're saying it. They say it in the mirror once,

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>just to see what it feels like. What are you

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna do? Hate a little kid for testing the boundaries

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 2>the same way that I did for saying like these

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 2>other curse words or whatever. So I went around asking people,

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to say that you've said it recently.

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:47.879
<v Speaker 2>I hope that you haven't, or that you I hope

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 2>that you wouldn't admit that to me. Let's just put

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it like that. But like as a kid, yeah, you

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:54.719
<v Speaker 2>said it before you knew what it meant, or like

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you knew the gravity of the words to certain people

0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 2>and why you shouldn't say it. There are some people

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 2>who still say that they didn't they've never said it

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 2>in their life, and I.

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't really believe.

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, we're talking about with the er or the

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>see And that's another thing people wanted to get too deep.

0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't. Well, the er is a no go, all.

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, But when you're saying like little kids, you think

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody has said it? Do you think everybody has said it?

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>With a hard er?

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they know any better, Like I

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 2>don't think they would know the difference at that point.

0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm thinking of a little kid, okay for Max,

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Like these kids learn words and hey, listen, I don't

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 2>know where they're hearing it.

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Of course you know, but you're not gonna read it anymore.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>So actually you probably still are allowed to read that. That

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>probably didn't get any books banned.

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, there are some really good books with that word.

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.359
<v Speaker 2>It is what it is. We're gonna do block it out?

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 2>You remember, never mind? God, remember like when you were

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>reading things in class and they had like words blocked out.

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, if you're trying to figure out what the

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>word was, hello, what are you gonna do? Block it out?

0:50:59.480 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Ever?

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>What I have for sure South Florida where I came

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 1>into to being a human basically, and that was you know,

0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>high school college.

0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:11.280
<v Speaker 2>We used to rap.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Along all the time, say it all the time in

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.959
<v Speaker 1>rap songs. And when I tell you, down there, everybody

0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:21.160
<v Speaker 1>uses that word toward a man, toward a woman. What

0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:23.919
<v Speaker 1>are your white, black, Hispanic, Chinese? It doesn't matter. That's

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just how everybody down there addresses each other in that context. Like, yes,

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:32.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely I did and I didn't realize, to be completely honest,

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>which is wild, how wild it was that everybody was

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 1>doing that Until you leave that area and you say

0:51:38.600 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 1>something and people are like, what.

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Did you just say?

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, oh okay, but if you go down there,

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody would think twice about it.

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I'd be lying if I said that I didn't say

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 2>words that I shouldn't have been saying. Didler a community

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 2>of people which second lot of Okay, Okay, I don't

0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 2>this something of the past. Okay, we're talking in past. Yeah,

0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 2>a few different communities were. Yeah, but I've grown and

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing I mean. Okay, I think that we

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 2>need to give people grace, right, which is why I'm like,

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.399
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to lie about the fact that you've

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 2>said it before. You know better now, you know what

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean. So I was a kid, Hell yeah, Like,

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do?

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you this, and I will say this

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 1>is a fact, I promise you. I have never in

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 1>my life heard my mom, my dad, or my sister

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 1>say either version of really, not one of them. Never.

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Humhmm.

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't even like I'm trying to picture it right now.

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't even picture what it would be like coming

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>out of any of their mouths. WHOA, Yeah, my sister

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>is married to a black man, so not that that matters.

0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I was just that person that's like, I have a

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 1>black friend. I would never please.

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:57.879
<v Speaker 2>Please don't get me started on those. Okay, you don't

0:52:57.880 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>get me started.

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think I should also say quickly, yeah,

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.280
<v Speaker 1>he's mixed, so he has black and whites.

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh, and that's another thing we were talking about that

0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:11.400
<v Speaker 2>like who gets a pass? Okay. I don't really think

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 2>that anyone should be saying the word just because it's like,

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 2>what's the point, Just leave it alone. But it doesn't

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 2>mean I don't slip up when I'm around certain people.

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It is what it is, And I told you opposite.

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.239
<v Speaker 1>I think everybody should say the word all the time

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>because I know you're never gonna agree. I think the

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>more you say something, the more anything is in popular culture.

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Whatever that thing is, whether it's a word, it's a

0:53:32.840 --> 0:53:37.360
<v Speaker 1>piece of clothing, it's a song, it gets devalued. I

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>hate that there's a word out there that triggers people

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>so badly that they will fight, Like people will absolutely

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 1>throw down. They don't care if they go to jail.

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. There's a word out there that people

0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>let push them to that brink. I just wish it

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:52.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that value, and I feel like the only

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:55.080
<v Speaker 1>way to devalue it is just put it out there everywhere.

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's ever going to happen, though, move

0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to South Florida. I think at one point I probably

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 2>would have agree read with you, but I just feel like, yeah, no,

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I think now it. People do it and say these

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.319
<v Speaker 2>like this word just to irritate other people, and I

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 2>get exactly what you're saying, but it's just like, well,

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 2>why can't you, the person who uses it with malicious intent,

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<v Speaker 2>just be a better person. Well, for sure, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like like like, I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>That absolutely and unreasonable expectations. There are just ship heads

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<v Speaker 1>in the world who are going to be shitheads forever

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<v Speaker 1>because they were born a shithead, they were raised by

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<v Speaker 1>ship heads to be a shithead, and they're gonna die

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<v Speaker 1>a shithead. I don't know. I say this all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>The things that really bother me, you will see no

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<v Speaker 1>reaction from me if it happens, because I don't ever

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<v Speaker 1>want people to know that that thing bothers me enough

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<v Speaker 1>that you can keep saying it.

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<v Speaker 2>Strength. I'm not there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe weakness. I don't know. To not let people know

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<v Speaker 1>something that bothered me, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to think that. No, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>I feel about that. Actually, you know, people.

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<v Speaker 1>Call us the sand End mom all the time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you wouldn't let anybody know that that bothered you.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't bother me. I'm not gonna please. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're saying that, what kind of person are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let a person like that bother me?

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<v Speaker 2>Please? I mean, I get it, but yeah, no, we're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing down, we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>You want Diamond to fight drop the ward?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, but she.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked everybody around here. I think most people were pretty

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<v Speaker 1>honest about it. I really want to hear off the

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<v Speaker 1>air who said that they never said it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear if I believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't believe it, trust me? Oh don't believe it?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl or guy guy notorious liar? Yes, I have guesses

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<v Speaker 1>and on that. If people want to find Diamond and

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<v Speaker 1>debate this, where can they find you?

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<v Speaker 3>At?

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<v Speaker 2>Diamond sincere on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am at baby Hot Sauce on Instagram. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>next time we need to talk about threads. Oh, threads

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<v Speaker 1>is the same dumpster fire that Twitter was, if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>was wondering. And uh yeah, we'll be back for episode thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently from the Road, with Diamond breaking down about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, no, please say bye bye.