WEBVTT - Are You Coachable? with Kristen Bell

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everybody. Oh my god, it's it's me Chelsea and Catherine. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? I'm really great, but not as good

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<v Speaker 1>as you. I can see a beautiful snowfall behind you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's lovely there, I know it is pretty lovely. I'm coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to my audience from I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>say live, but that doesn't really make any sense. Live

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<v Speaker 1>to tape from Whistler, which is where I've hunkered down

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<v Speaker 1>for the winter. And yes, I'm so oh god, it

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<v Speaker 1>is just heaven and I'm not going to pretend it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am skiing every single day, well not every single

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<v Speaker 1>day because Joe Quois with me, so we have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a couple of days off here and there for

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<v Speaker 1>his learning curve, you know what I mean. He had

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<v Speaker 1>an injury, a slight. He had a big wipe out

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the first couple of days, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, and he started filming it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>put your camera away. The last thing I need is

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<v Speaker 1>for people to think that I dragged you up to

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<v Speaker 1>Whistler and broke something on you. So just shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be fine in about twenty four hours, And

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<v Speaker 1>sure enough, he was, oh, my gosh, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>took a tumble. Is he okay? I mean it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's okay. Well, he does wipe out a lot

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<v Speaker 1>because he's learning. And he thought that he had been

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<v Speaker 1>skiing before, because he skied in I don't know, Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Charleston or something. I told him that was probably

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<v Speaker 1>an indoor ski rank at the Circus Circus because no

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<v Speaker 1>one's ever heard of that. But he thought he could hang.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess he didn't really understand the extreme scare

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<v Speaker 1>that I am. Yeah. I mean looking at your socials,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's very rocky. These are not bunny hills

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<v Speaker 1>like this. It's pretty intense. Yeah, it's pretty fun though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just so beautiful here, like it is

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<v Speaker 1>the views and the mountain is so big. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>my family was here for a week and then they left,

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<v Speaker 1>and then so I and then my sister was here

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<v Speaker 1>lingering for a little bit, and then she left. And

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<v Speaker 1>now Joe and I are just like in domesticated bliss

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<v Speaker 1>in my little ski shelling. It's just heaven. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean have some that I put in the time and

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<v Speaker 1>effort to become a really good skier that I had

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury to do that because it's so nice to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and be able to like to be

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<v Speaker 1>capable at something. You know, I don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hobbies. Yeah, have you skied all your life? Or

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<v Speaker 1>is it sort of a newer thing for you. I've

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<v Speaker 1>skied since I was a little girl, but not seriously

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the last seven eight years. I think

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<v Speaker 1>since I've been coming to Whistler, I've been pretty serious

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But I talked about this in my stand

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<v Speaker 1>up a lot, like I don't have a ton of bobbies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like to cook or clean or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like to read, I like to smoke weed, and

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<v Speaker 1>I like to ski, So I have to do all

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<v Speaker 1>three of those things. Really well, yeah, okay, really this?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you like a speed reader or do you just

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<v Speaker 1>happen to read quickly because you would like tear through books? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I have an assignment, I take it seriously. You

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<v Speaker 1>know how professional I am? Coft? Yes, I do, actually, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do so if I haven't reading assignment, if we

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<v Speaker 1>have a guest coming on the show, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing more annoying than being interviewed by someone who has

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<v Speaker 1>not been familiarized with your work. Yes, well, luckily today

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<v Speaker 1>our guest does not have a book out, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll be all right. But I'm excited about our

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<v Speaker 1>guests today. I love us. So, speaking of skiing, one

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners had a ski Well, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>listeners have ski questions for you, but this is one

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought would be really fun to answer on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, She says. Dear Chelsea, I'm a twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old teacher living in Vermont and I learned to

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<v Speaker 1>ski two years ago. I took ski lessons with eight friends,

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<v Speaker 1>four couples that are fellow New England transplants, and the

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<v Speaker 1>only single skier of the crew, which has never been

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<v Speaker 1>a problem until now, as life changes have caused some

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<v Speaker 1>to back out of season passes or opting out many weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>I love skiing, but I'm still learning, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love the idea of skiing alone. When I want to

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<v Speaker 1>challenge myself. When I want to ski, I definitely go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't change my plans when I'm the only one

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<v Speaker 1>going because solo runs are amazing. However, it's starting to

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<v Speaker 1>feel lonely. How would you suggest branching out or meeting

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<v Speaker 1>other people to ski with. Thanks for your help and

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<v Speaker 1>best of luck the ski season. Colleen, Well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>join a ski group. I mean, wherever you live, go

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<v Speaker 1>and join an adult single ski group. They have those everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually a friend of mine that's how she met her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years ago. But yeah, they have ski groups everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a great thing to do because then you're

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<v Speaker 1>never alone. And by the way, you shouldn't be skiing

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<v Speaker 1>alone if you want to challenge yourself, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even go on the trees if I'm alone, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know better. Yeah. Well, maybe we'll find Colleen a group

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<v Speaker 1>and a husband or get Yeah, first comes the ski

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<v Speaker 1>group and then comes the husband. Yeah. Yeah, excellent. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that was easy. Yeah, it's a problem solved. Oh. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to mention to everyone that we are rescheduling

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<v Speaker 1>my Vancouver dates. Those were canceled along with Calgary because

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID, and we are rescheduling them and so stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for that because they will be rescheduled sooner than later.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at March or April, so I will announce those

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as they become available. Also, we're adding a

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<v Speaker 1>second show at the Wiltern in Los Angeles and We've

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<v Speaker 1>added second shows in Portland's in Seattle. Portland, Oregon is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up the first weekend of February, so I'm doing Eugene, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>two shows in Portland, and then two shows in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>And we added a show in Winnipeg, and we added

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<v Speaker 1>a show in Toronto. So yeah, check Chelsea Handler dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and yeah, we added a ton of second shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really exciting and I'm looking forward to seeing everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be a month since I've been on stage, so

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait to get back on stage. Awesome. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So our special guest today is an actress. She's a philanthropist,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a producer. She is starring in the new Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>show The Woman in the House, which is a satirical thriller.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a baby brand with Dax which is called

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<v Speaker 1>Hello Bellow, and they just opened up their first facility

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Everybody, and they make with their

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<v Speaker 1>products with organic materials and they provide diapers to so

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<v Speaker 1>many people in need, to so many people who have

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<v Speaker 1>children and need help with diapers. And she just came

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<v Speaker 1>up with a new hand cream for her CBD line,

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<v Speaker 1>which is called Happy Dance. They have a new hand

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<v Speaker 1>cream available and one percent of the proceeds from Happy

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<v Speaker 1>Dance go to women who are coming out of prison

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<v Speaker 1>and helping them reacclimate into real life again. Hi, Kristen Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Kristen Bell. Don't we all love Kristen. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that review. As you know, I'm codependent and I

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<v Speaker 1>like when people like me, but also I adore you.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that I have your stamp of approval,

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<v Speaker 1>it just makes my heart sing. Well, both of our

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<v Speaker 1>hearts are swelling, and my Pikachu quite frankly, this is Katherine,

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<v Speaker 1>my producer, Katherine, Meet Kristen. Hi. You guys probably haven't

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<v Speaker 1>met before, so this is a nice initiation. Kristen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to talk to you because I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love the way you carry yourself, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, to me, you always come across as somebody

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<v Speaker 1>just who as their ship together. Do you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a true accurate assessment of yourself. Not in the slightest, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>Not in the slightest. I mean I think I try

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<v Speaker 1>what you're reading. I think is my desperation to have

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<v Speaker 1>my ship together. And also I'm like, not the world's

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<v Speaker 1>best actress, but I'm a decent one, so I appear

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<v Speaker 1>as such. But I will say, maybe what you're reading

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<v Speaker 1>is that I am very committed to not to become

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<v Speaker 1>a parenting book for a second, but like a growth mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>I am constantly striving for new information, better data. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a learning curve at all times. So I read

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, I talked to a lot of people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I just I don't want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>stagnant with any of my opinions or viewpoints. So perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it feel like I have my ship together.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I guess maybe that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I'm attracted to you about, because I too,

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<v Speaker 1>am always looking to have my opinions changed. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be stuck or set. Because I've been around

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who are so strong minded and

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<v Speaker 1>so strong willed that they're in transigent. Their opinions never move,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that they know the right way with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to parenting, or with regard to the industry, or

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<v Speaker 1>with how to handle tumultuous times and friendships or confrontations.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always find that kind of mindset when you're

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<v Speaker 1>so stuck to be really limiting and actually not that intelligent,

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<v Speaker 1>because anyone who's really smart knows that your opinions and

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<v Speaker 1>viewpoints change. Yeah, and I think it's also the least

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<v Speaker 1>attractive quality is to be stuck in your views, to

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<v Speaker 1>not have the ability to have an open mind, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is the least attractive quality someone could have. So let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question, because you know, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are always public. You and Dax are always public about

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<v Speaker 1>your ups and downs in your relationships, your honesty, your therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>all of our bs right exactly, And I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>being married to Dax is a fucking handful. I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely think that that is a big That is a

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<v Speaker 1>big personality to juggle, especially when you have children. So

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the things Why don't I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this? What is? What do you think some of

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<v Speaker 1>your strengths are in your relationships, in your relationship specifically

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<v Speaker 1>with Dax, and then as a parent, what you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>about yourself and what has impressed you about yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the parenting mode. Okay, well, with Dax specifically, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that we work and again, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>compatibility issue that I think is sort of a fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>part of each of our personalities, which is certainly after

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<v Speaker 1>the attraction level. Why we synked up and kept going

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<v Speaker 1>is he has well, he's addicted to everything, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things he stays addicted to is a growth mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>He is constantly learning and morphing and adapting, and even

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<v Speaker 1>though he is a really strong personality, you can change

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<v Speaker 1>his mind. He is open to other points of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a very flexible person by nature, though slightly

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<v Speaker 1>strong willed. So we work really you well together and

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<v Speaker 1>that we're both striving to learn more and going like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>but what is the best decision for the group. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like utilitarian outlook on our family. And

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<v Speaker 1>usually he will throw the first ball and say, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to try this, whether it's I want to try

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<v Speaker 1>having dinner five nights a week together with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>See if that changes are dynamic, Like I'll go great,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll try it. Then we get the data. If it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work, then I throw a ball. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do that in every area of our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say, like, he's a huge personality and

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<v Speaker 1>he can be a lot, but like at home, he's

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<v Speaker 1>often not. He saves those shades for the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll tell you this, Like he has a temper

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, and it has never shown itself inside the

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<v Speaker 1>walls of this house ever, not to me, not to

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<v Speaker 1>the children. He is like very measured and patient when

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<v Speaker 1>there's any sort of dissent or argument. Now on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone j walks in front of his car, like,

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<v Speaker 1>sh it's gonna hit the fan, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Or like your if he sees something out in the

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<v Speaker 1>world where he sees someone getting bully or he feels

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<v Speaker 1>he's been slighted, he may have a temper, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>never at home. So he's quite a committed family man

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<v Speaker 1>under all of those sort of gruff hill billy layers.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just like him a lot. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>add that I fucking like him as a parent. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that has shocked me the most and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of made me grow the most is after all

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<v Speaker 1>of this information I took in from like the pediatricians

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<v Speaker 1>and other moms and and parenting books because I am

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<v Speaker 1>a person that likes advice. I love getting advice because

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<v Speaker 1>I have enough self esteem to go, oh, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to take it like no one's watching me

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<v Speaker 1>apply it. I want to know how you made your

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<v Speaker 1>marriage work. I want to know how you did better auditions.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know how you parented your kids and

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<v Speaker 1>got them to sleep better, like, and then I can

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<v Speaker 1>choose what to you us. So beyond all of that

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<v Speaker 1>taking in all the data, when I really try to,

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<v Speaker 1>in like a Buddhist place, almost look at my kids

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<v Speaker 1>as like little autonomous human beings that are experiencing life

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. It really screws my head on

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<v Speaker 1>straight when I have to deal with them, because like

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<v Speaker 1>the pace of life can make you treat them poorly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're laying in bed going like funk, I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have yelled at them, or I shouldn't have rushed everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I made one of them cry. But then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to realize, I'm a six year old. She's never been

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<v Speaker 1>six before, so first time she's ever been six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to be six, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that framework of like this is the first time they're

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing earth not only helps me deal with them, but

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<v Speaker 1>helps me cut myself a lot more slack because then

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<v Speaker 1>I put that framework on me. Right. So going back

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<v Speaker 1>to what you were saying, like, okay, you say you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try something like having dinner five nights a

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<v Speaker 1>week and seeing where that leads to have you guys

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<v Speaker 1>done that stuff? Like how do how does that work

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<v Speaker 1>out in your family dynamic and how does it change

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<v Speaker 1>the family dynamic? We've put it on the books, chilse,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've never gotten there. We've never what is your

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<v Speaker 1>natural habit? Like depending on who's working and whatever, whose

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<v Speaker 1>home has dinner with the kids? Is that how it works.

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<v Speaker 1>What's weird is that neither of us actually have schedules

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<v Speaker 1>that often that take us away around dinner time. Even

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<v Speaker 1>we could start work at four in the morning, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're both usually home by six or seven. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>home so often now because he works out of the attict.

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<v Speaker 1>But we attempt to connect in the evening. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a free for all type circus here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you eat when you're hungry. We mostly just snacked

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<v Speaker 1>during dinner. Maybe you know three times a month we'll

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<v Speaker 1>sit down for dinner. But in my head people have said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>connecting it a family dinner, like that's when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>about their day and all these different things. It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>For us. And at some point, you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>tried it and we got three days in and then

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted to get up and run around with the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs are outside. We were like, why stress ourselves out

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<v Speaker 1>to fit inside someone else's box or idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>will connect us. Let's go based on our own instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>So the things that connect us as a family, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>actually laying in bed with the kids at night, when

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking them in we do which I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>like a Jewish tradition talking about your rosebud and thorn

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. Do you know this one? Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>high and low. Yeah, your best part about your day

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<v Speaker 1>is your rose. Your thorn is if you're little, it's

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<v Speaker 1>your bad part. If you're above six years old, it

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<v Speaker 1>should be what could you have improved upon your thorn?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where did you have bad behavior that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>emulate the next day? And then your bud is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking forward to. And somehow that always leads to

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<v Speaker 1>much more in depth connection in our family. And the

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<v Speaker 1>second thing is we always tell our children the why.

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<v Speaker 1>We always give them more of an explanation as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to because I said so, Like, for instance, when they

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<v Speaker 1>were coming home from like preschool four years old, when

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to talk but didn't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to us about a ton of things. You say

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<v Speaker 1>to your kid, how was your day, and they say

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<v Speaker 1>fine and walk away and act grab the girls. One

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<v Speaker 1>day and he goes, hey, I just want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know when I say how was your day, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily looking for details. What I'm looking for is to

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<v Speaker 1>connect with you, because I haven't seen you for the

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<v Speaker 1>last nine hours and I want to just look at

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<v Speaker 1>your face and hear your voice and whatever details you

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell me, even if it's a make belief

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<v Speaker 1>story about your day. The reason I ask you how

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<v Speaker 1>was your day? Is because I really want to connect

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<v Speaker 1>and plug back into you. And they got it. They

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, so now I'm not under this pressure

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<v Speaker 1>to tell my parents about my day, which we all

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<v Speaker 1>know is annoying. But now I realize why my dad

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<v Speaker 1>is doing it, and now they do tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>their day. And where did he learn that in therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think he makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff up. Yeah, he's very very weirdly in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with himself. I mean not weirdly. It's a great quality

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<v Speaker 1>and a man you know, I mean you you've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this how he's so alpha, but at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time he's so sensitive and man having that in quality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm with someone now who's like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really endearing. It just makes you realize, like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish all men could be a little bit softer

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<v Speaker 1>and a little bit more sensitive because it's so much

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hotter than the alternative. Oh my god, it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because he is all of the things. At a ten,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like the most he could be the most aggro

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<v Speaker 1>at a tend, but he's also the most sensitive at ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the most patient a the ten. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just got a man who is a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>the good thing is I like a lot. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big personality. I gravitate towards a lot. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it works. One of the other great tips he gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>He gives me all these tips. He loves giving me advice.

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<v Speaker 1>He but now sometimes in our in our pod, like

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<v Speaker 1>in our friend group now, because so many people do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of advice, we have to ask each other,

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<v Speaker 1>are you coachable? Because somebody's be like I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not coachable right now. Um. But one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>things he said around the time, like our kids were

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe one in three, he said. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was drawing upon his childhood here. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like kids witnessed arguments a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and they very rarely ever witness the makeup portion the

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<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution. So he said, even when we come home,

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<v Speaker 1>if we ever have tension or an argument, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they can feel it, they're they're way smarter than you

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<v Speaker 1>give them credit for. Even if we solve it once

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<v Speaker 1>we go to bed, let's make sure that the next

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<v Speaker 1>day we identify it and play the role of apology

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<v Speaker 1>or like, hey, you know what, Daddy, I was really

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<v Speaker 1>grumpy when I came home from work. I'm sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>snapped at you. He'll go, oh, that's okay, mommy, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so the kids can have an idea of conflict resolution,

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<v Speaker 1>because something that I never realized is like, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>happens all the time. Kids see arguments everywhere, but making

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<v Speaker 1>up and resolution is usually done in private. So how

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<v Speaker 1>on earth are we supposed to give these kids the

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<v Speaker 1>conflict resolution skills if we never show it to them well.

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<v Speaker 1>And also a lot of people make up in private

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<v Speaker 1>because it's sexually related, Like makeup is sex, whereas you

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<v Speaker 1>know that is a that's a very cyclical thing that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of couples get into where they fight and

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<v Speaker 1>then their makeup is sex, and it's almost like you

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<v Speaker 1>set up the fight in order to have the makeup sex.

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<v Speaker 1>So and that's completely dysfunctional too on its own, merit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we always have sex in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to suggest. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like the right thing to do, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>more family style. Anyway. What about your upbringing? I know

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<v Speaker 1>you've talked a little bit about it, but did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel do you feel like you took a lot from

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<v Speaker 1>what your parents modeled for you or what you learned

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<v Speaker 1>in your household because you had older siblings, right? I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two older sisters, right, and so you were

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<v Speaker 1>the youngest of three. Yeah, So what's weird is like

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have a great answer for you on this,

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<v Speaker 1>my memory is such that it doesn't exist, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>try to struggle with. I hear people saying, oh, when

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<v Speaker 1>I was six years old, I went on the spike

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<v Speaker 1>gride with my brother and we you know, caught a

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<v Speaker 1>snake or whatever their memory is about their childhood. I

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<v Speaker 1>literally don't have that, Like I struggle so often. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when I look at pictures, I can remember details, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of like a synthesizer, Like I remember feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about people, but I don't have specific memories. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think what I digested from my dad was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>hard work and subtlety. But that's kind of a shocker

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of my mouth. But my dad is a

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<v Speaker 1>very hard worker. But when he comes home, he's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of just you feel like he's a wallflower, but he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's very present, but he's like quiet and very sort

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<v Speaker 1>of official unless he's had chardonnay and then he gets giggly.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the girls, he was always just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like this stability. I guess that is what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like subtle stability. And he was very committed to his

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<v Speaker 1>job and he ran it like a family. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>news director. And from my mom, I think she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>very zany and she was always committed to paying it

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<v Speaker 1>forward and helping people. And I think I got this.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think I synthesized this melting pot of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would say the things I value the most

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<v Speaker 1>are like being good to people, helping and being a

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<v Speaker 1>hard worker and attempting to be as consistent and stable

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<v Speaker 1>as I can. And do you think that being a

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<v Speaker 1>hard worker the sire to be a hard worker? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about this a lot. You know how

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<v Speaker 1>how hard women especially want to show up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in this industry on a set. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one that's not going to complain, that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be there the longest, going to be the best

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<v Speaker 1>team player. It's not very frequently that that behavior gets rewarded.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you feel like women we do that. We have

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<v Speaker 1>that in our genes where we think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>overperform to earn our place at the table. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is from a long, long time. And I know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of female actresses who feel the same way. They

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, we've got to be the girl that's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to complain, that's gonna be there the latest

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<v Speaker 1>and be ready and willing to work the double or

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<v Speaker 1>come in earlier, you know, pick up the slack for

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<v Speaker 1>someone else. Yeah, it's interesting because I was with you

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<v Speaker 1>until you said, staying there late, and that's not something

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<v Speaker 1>I roll with at all. I am like, look, at

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<v Speaker 1>the minute I get to work, I want to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because I don't like work. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>I am allergic to two things on this planet, penicillin

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<v Speaker 1>and inefficiency, and I just do not tolerate inefficiency. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a one time I will get ridable. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the one time I will get frustrated with people. Sincerely,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think that my outlook is for me

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<v Speaker 1>to be working the hardest or being the best. I

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<v Speaker 1>think my job is to help other people around me

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<v Speaker 1>work their hardest and be their best. And sometimes that

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<v Speaker 1>means that I'm on morale, that I've memorized my lines

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<v Speaker 1>the night before, and rather than like pretending to sit

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<v Speaker 1>with the director and plan the shop, which he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need me to do, I'm going around to the grips

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<v Speaker 1>and asking them like how their family was last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and like are you gonna be able to make it

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<v Speaker 1>home for dinner? And getting people excited about living a

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<v Speaker 1>human life, because I find that people are not valuing

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<v Speaker 1>being people anymore, like some culture's value being the work

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<v Speaker 1>and others value existing. And I think we valued being

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<v Speaker 1>the work for so long, and I'm a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>over that phase. Like I do work hard and I

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<v Speaker 1>come prepared. That's not to say I don't come prepared,

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<v Speaker 1>but my goal is to help the people around me

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<v Speaker 1>work better and harder and more efficiently so that we

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<v Speaker 1>can all get back to being ourselves at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day and have a little bit of quality

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<v Speaker 1>of life. I like that, that's right. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>live in a society that's all about work, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, I had that moment about ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago where I'm like, I do not want to work

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<v Speaker 1>like this for the rest of my life. I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I want to have a high

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<v Speaker 1>quality life. I want to be able to travel and

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<v Speaker 1>impact and inspire, you know, and have people live their

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<v Speaker 1>lives vicariously through me. And it's like, why can't we

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<v Speaker 1>all just live our lives vicariously through ourselves, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not everybody has the freedom of the independence, the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of children in my in my situation, let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about do you care what people think about you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like too much? Really? Yeah? And I work on it

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<v Speaker 1>every single day. But I have a visceral stomach reaction

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<v Speaker 1>when I feel like someone is not pleased with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that comes maybe from childhood fights

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom, probably of when I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was disappointing someone. It somehow in my childhood, which wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>particularly traumatic, became the worst feeling that I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did spend a lot of my life ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>my own instincts because that was an easier path than

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<v Speaker 1>thinking or feeling that someone was disappointed in me or

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like me, wasn't like approving of me. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>been like a struggle because I think weirdly the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>has helped me with this because there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>closed doors and I had to you had to sort

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<v Speaker 1>of sit with yourself and you had to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the person in the mirror and go, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Because actually you're the only person that matters. Like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you feel that your actions are responsible on your side

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<v Speaker 1>of the street is clean, that really is all that

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<v Speaker 1>should matter. And I say that out loud to myself

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<v Speaker 1>all the time because I haven't fully digested it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at tem Ding and Dax has all these amazing

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<v Speaker 1>things from a like you should you should only compare

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<v Speaker 1>yourself to the person you were yesterday, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're feeling way less than like I didn't accomplish enough

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<v Speaker 1>for someone wasn't pleased with me. Well, it was I

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<v Speaker 1>better than I was yesterday. But looking at myself in

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<v Speaker 1>the mirror and really going are you happy with yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason has always been really difficult for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you find yourself to have a generally happy disposition? Well, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on if I'm taking my medication. Yeah, no, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been on an antidepressant forever and nine

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and it was because well, first of all, my

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<v Speaker 1>mom had explained to me why she was on one

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<v Speaker 1>at a very young age. She was a nurse, so

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<v Speaker 1>she also like and she's a really cookie, so she

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<v Speaker 1>when she became a cardiologist nurse, she would bring home

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<v Speaker 1>open heart surgery like VHSS and we'd sit and eat

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<v Speaker 1>spaghetti and watch an open heart surgery. Or one time

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<v Speaker 1>she bribed the guy at the morgue and brought in

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<v Speaker 1>three human hearts to my tenth grade science class. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>she's weird and I love it. But she told me

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<v Speaker 1>very early on, as she is very open medically was

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, hey, so I this is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I take this antidepressant because my serotonin levels aren't what

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<v Speaker 1>they should be. And if you ever start to feel

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<v Speaker 1>this way, and she gave me this list of symptoms,

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<v Speaker 1>just know there's a variety of things you can do,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we could exercise more, go to therapy. You could

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<v Speaker 1>talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Maybe there's a medication

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<v Speaker 1>that's right for you. Maybe not, like it's not everybody

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<v Speaker 1>gets treated with the medication, certainly. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>went to college on my second year of college, I

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<v Speaker 1>just started to feel the best way to describe it

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<v Speaker 1>as I felt really heavy and also simultaneously like I

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<v Speaker 1>was floating, like I didn't have anything grounding me, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I just was not myself, Like I was inside

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<v Speaker 1>this big dark fog and this cage and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get out, and my reactions weren't within my control. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like irritable and stuff. And I talked to my

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<v Speaker 1>mom about it, and you know, my journey was trying

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of things and then figuring out that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this medication was right and it has been a godsend.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing my mom said that that helped me

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<v Speaker 1>forever reduced the stigma, and I'm practically gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed on my body so that people can see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is if you're ever feeling like you are less than

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<v Speaker 1>or ashamed to take a medication for your brain health,

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<v Speaker 1>would you ask yourself this, Would you ever deny a

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<v Speaker 1>diabetic their insulin. Would you ever say no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't take that insulin. Just process your sugar better.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be able to do that, like it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, and that this is not This is not

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the argument at all that things are overprescribed,

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<v Speaker 1>which they are. And then I needed this certain pill

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<v Speaker 1>to help me balance my serotonin and it has helped

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<v Speaker 1>me so much because there are sometimes when like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go on a trip for five days and forget my

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<v Speaker 1>medication or something and I just feel like shit, I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like I'm caged inside my body and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't control my reactions and things are happening to me

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to I'm experuire oriensing them. Yeah. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody needs to have the self confidence to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that it's up to you to decide what's best for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to listen to other people decide diagnosing you, even

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<v Speaker 1>though actually we both consider ourselves to be medical professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you do as well. I consider myself

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pharmacological into it. I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>know instinctively what people need and when they need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I mean I have to make the declaration that

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<v Speaker 1>we are not medical professionals. We don't have degrees, but

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<v Speaker 1>we both fancy ourselves to be excelling in the medical profession.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like is that we're talking about it like

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a couple different types of people. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>at alls. Then there's the people who don't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it at all and everything is shameful, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the people like us, which I think our category is

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<v Speaker 1>like no, we talk about it and some things helps

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<v Speaker 1>some people. And I try to be because I for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason fell into the forefront of this issue of

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<v Speaker 1>talking about mental health and awareness. I try to be

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<v Speaker 1>really responsible in saying like I never say what medication

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm on for a very specific reason, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any young girl saying that's the one Kristen Bell takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take it, because that may not be

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<v Speaker 1>right for her body. There's a there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different ones for a reason. Also, sometimes it's just you

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<v Speaker 1>need more exercise. Like people we've gotten we used to

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<v Speaker 1>like build our huts and stuff, you know, and we

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<v Speaker 1>we don't get enough physical activity even just walking during

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<v Speaker 1>the day as these modernized, technologically dependent human beings. And

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<v Speaker 1>so sometimes if you're feeling down in the dumps, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that you just need to get up and move your

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<v Speaker 1>butt a little bit. And I'm not saying you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be a certain size, but like you need to

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<v Speaker 1>take a couple of ups around the block in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and at night, and maybe that does the trick.

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<v Speaker 1>Like endorphins are a real thing. And then there's also

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>just talking to someone like talk therapy. And I read

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>this amazing book. Have you read The Body Keeps the Score?

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<v Speaker 1>The way he talks about treating PTSD patients, particularly vets,

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<v Speaker 1>and and mandating that they also participate in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a voluntary physical activity with a group as part of

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>their recovery. So he'll do talk therapy, but they have

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<v Speaker 1>to either join a drum circle, join a choir, join

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<v Speaker 1>a yoga class, join a you know, tai chi in

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the park, whatever anything that's voluntarily interacting physically with another

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<v Speaker 1>human being no words, is like really regulating for the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I've been really into these days is

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<v Speaker 1>just like kicking a ball with my kids when they're

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<v Speaker 1>frustrated they're having a tantrum. Sometimes I let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>play kickball and you can tell me all about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll calm down, like almost instantly. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I have to trick them because they're in tantrum mode

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<v Speaker 1>and we're folding laundry together, whatever, and they're furious at me,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I'm the worst mom ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just pass them a hangar and in the

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<v Speaker 1>midst of their tantrum, they'll pass it back, and then

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll pass it to him again and they're still crying.

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<v Speaker 1>And after passing this hangar back and forth, they have

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<v Speaker 1>somehow regulated because our bodies are communicating. Wow. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting and it feels like voodoo, and it

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<v Speaker 1>might be, but it works. It's like a spell. You

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<v Speaker 1>can cat on them. Great, great, I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Kristen, Well, that's a great jumping off point, Katherine.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take some calls? Yes, let's definitely get to

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<v Speaker 1>some callers, but first let's take a quick ad break.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna give advice to people who call in

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<v Speaker 1>for our our expertise. Kristen, we always have guest doctors

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<v Speaker 1>on your our guest Doctor today. I love it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how you did this, but

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<v Speaker 1>so much of what you both just talked about we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to cover today. So this first question feels

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<v Speaker 1>a little silly at first, blush, but it really is

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<v Speaker 1>important to be able to talk to your partner about

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive issues. Our first question comes from a j. The

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<v Speaker 1>subject line is great sex, but terrible breath. Dear Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>My husband and I have been together for eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>and our sex life just gets better and better the

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<v Speaker 1>longer we're together. We both love spontaneous sex and try

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<v Speaker 1>to do it as often as possible. But with that spontaneity,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a drawback. I'll go to make out with them

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<v Speaker 1>and his breath smells like catshit. It's really gross and

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<v Speaker 1>turns me off. I just have to hold my breath

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<v Speaker 1>until we change positions. I've tried addressing it with him

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<v Speaker 1>in the past, that he gets so sensitive about it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I address this with him without him getting

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<v Speaker 1>so upset. A Oh my god, that's so so annoying. Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I had this issue once I was hooking up with

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<v Speaker 1>I had a boyfriend that lived in Spain, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would meet each other and in random countries in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very high It sounds as high end as

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was very high salutint international love story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was exactly what I was excited about becoming an

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<v Speaker 1>adult for, so I could have different men in different ports. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I this guy was really sexy and really hot, but

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<v Speaker 1>he had very strong morning breath. It wasn't at night

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't so bad, but in the morning it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and it almost felt like it was coming from his stomach,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people's breath isn't really about what

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 1>they've been eating. It's more what's going on with their gut. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of met up with him for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I could, and then I just felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I would want someone to be honest with me. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know men can be very sensitive to these issues,

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<v Speaker 1>so I understand I want to take that into account,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to share my story with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>did send him an email and I explained it to

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<v Speaker 1>him in a very gentle way. Oh. This was after

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>he sent me a book called Perfume, and I thought,

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>how ironic that this man is sending me a book

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<v Speaker 1>about sense when I can't stand the smell of him

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. But I did tell him. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be really honest with you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would want somebody to be honest with me. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have really a really strong scent in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I don't know if it's coming, if

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you should test for Candida, or if you have something

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>internally going on, but you know it's unpleasant and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a really strong odor. So I just want to

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>let you know that. And you know, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little embarrassed at first, but then he did get it

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<v Speaker 1>looked into, and it turns out he did have Candida,

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<v Speaker 1>so I am a doctor. But he was appreciative and

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<v Speaker 1>we're still friends and we talk. Hopefully he's not listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this podcat ask because he'll be embarrassed. But I

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<v Speaker 1>won't mention his name. There are so many Spanish lovers

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<v Speaker 1>I have, so it would be hard to narrow it

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<v Speaker 1>down anyway. But his sensitivity, like you can't ignore a

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>problem because someone sensitive, you just have to be as

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<v Speaker 1>compassionate as as you can be when telling him about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that his breath is really strong. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also think strong is a good word to use instead

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of bad. Yeah, And I also think so One time,

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>my old roommate Katie, took this class called Understanding Men

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Celebrating Women, and it was like one of the things

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>she learned from it was like a self help class

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to you know, get along. I mean, this is also

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>my friend Katie is so amazing because she also she

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>was having a lot of early sex and wasn't dating

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>long term, and she was like, I have to hang

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>out with a guy for twenty four hours before I

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>can have sex with him. And I was like, Katie,

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that kind of sounds like your old pattern. She was like, no,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. So if the first date is three hours,

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>then I market like, we've spent three hours together. And

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's kind of a baller way to

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 1>figure out how to get a little bit more long

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>term and not just you know, spread on the right.

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>She had a little little chart, but in this class,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>it was like one thing they taught the women right

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>away was like, you gotta know when to talk to

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy because guys are like not always online to

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about things with words and emotions there. They spend

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>most of the day offline, most of them, let's be honest,

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and so like what I use this with Dex all

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the time too, Like I'm sort of like predator to prey,

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>monitoring when I can talk to him about who which

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>family members will be coming in for Christmas, or when

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I can set him down to ask him about, you know,

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the kids joining in after school program that he'll have

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to drive them to, like all these little things. I

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>think finding a time when you both are in a

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>really really good mood and then saying I have something

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>really vulnerable to say, and you start there. So you

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>start by unzipping your chest. And then I think the

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>wordage is really important, like you're saying, Chelsea, like the

0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>word strong, saying I don't know that this is your problem,

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>but I do know that it's ours. I might just

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>have a really sensitive nose. Because here's the thing. Pheromones

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>are like a very real thing. Remember, Like they've like

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>got a bunch of guys sweaty in a bunch of

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 1>T shirts and had women smell them and some were

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 1>revolted by some and really turned on by others, Like,

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:19.919
<v Speaker 1>it might not be that his breath is so bad

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>so much that her nose is really sensitive to that

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>type of breath at that time. So you have to

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>you have to take responsibility for like, I'm really sensitive

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to this. Is there anything we could do? Because I

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 1>am so attracted to you. I want to make the

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>most of my experience with you. If you come at

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>it from that angle, it might be easier to get

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>him to like keep some you know, dentine in his

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>pocket or whatever. Or if all else fails and you're

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>having spontaneous sex and you get a whiff of the breath,

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>turn it around, give him a button. Don't go in

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>bill frontal, you know what I mean. Just sit on

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>his face with your assholes what christens saying? Maybe breath

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>will get better. There's plenty of ways to have sex.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I've Dax and I've only tried one and we only

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>ever will. But I've heard there's a lot of different

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>ways that sex. So if you feel like, oh, yeah, morning,

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, if you can isolate the time morning

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 1>is when it is, then just turn around and give

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>him your rump. Yeah, you could do that, but also,

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you know the tongue scrapers, these are all avenues like

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>some something. It's sometimes it's such a simple fix when

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>people have bad breath. And yeah, it's just about I

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>think everything she said about creating the right vibe for

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the conversation knowing went to have the conversation, because that

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>is actually somebody who's evolved. When you know you have

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.799
<v Speaker 1>to have a difficult conversation and you just don't do

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it when you want to. You do it when it's

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be right for the person you're approaching during sex.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Is not the moment, that's not the time. Yeah, I'm

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a very sensitive I have a very sensitive nose too,

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>so I understand that because anything, if a smell is

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 1>too strong, it totally turns me off and I can

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>get really grossed out really easily. So I hear what

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but I would definitely say it's worth bringing

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>up and in all the ways that we just suggested.

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And there's no reason his breath should smell like cat

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>sh it. That doesn't sound right. So either it's a

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 1>diet thing, or it's a tongue scraping thing, or it's

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 1>just a hygienic thing. But I'm sure that you're gonna

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 1>find a solution together and also remind him just how

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>hot the sex it has been and how much you're

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>loving having sex with him. Now. I mean, that's really

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line of what all men care about hearing,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, is how great they are in bed. So

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>underline that a couple of times you and I are

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>making a great doctor to like if I'm considering maybe

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>we should start a practice, because you're being practical and

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you're like gastro intestinal doctor, tongue scraper, and I'm like

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:45.399
<v Speaker 1>time of day emotional temperature taking, you know, I think

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you suggest no, just from behind, not special. I'm actually

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>suggesting anal look. Whether it's a t M or whether

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:57.959
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, I don't care what it is. But there's

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 1>plenty of but stuff that you can do. You and

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you can even get into the V you know, round

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the back through the button. There's a whole bunch of

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you can do. But I'm saying, like you're

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you're being so practical and I'm being emotional. This is

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a really good practice we've we've put together here. I

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>hope we get more clients. I think we do we

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>keep us posted about what happens with your husband's breath? Okay,

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>let us know how you addressed it and what the

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>end result was when there is one? Thank you for

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>calling or writing? Actually, yeah, well, our next question comes

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>from Kristen. She lives in l A and she's an

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>actor and writer. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm in the

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>entertainment field and industry where there is increasing necessity to

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>be everything for yourself actor, director, manager, editor, producer, you

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>name it. You cannot just be one thing. I'm very capable,

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm talented, but God, being my own

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>pr person is exhausting and goes against so many of

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>my instincts. Do you have any advice on advocating for

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>yourself in your field, really any field, while maintaining a

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>sense of your own integrity and authenticity. Kristen, and she's

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 1>with us here on the phone as well. Okay, great,

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>let's see her. Hi Kristen, Oh, Hi, hi, Hi, Hi,

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you. It nice to meet you too.

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 1>You spell it with an ian, so do I? Yeah.

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I think there's like a vital personality difference between Ian

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and I am. That's how I feel about Chelsea's with

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a y at the end. Okay, so Christen, tell us

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. So you're feeling overwhelmed with I'm a

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>person that likes wearing a lot of hats because I

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>do enjoy control. But I think there's a certain element

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of wanting to move yourself forward, but like hits the

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>point where you have to involve other people and you

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>have to like promote yourself. And I get that that's

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the thing you have to do, but it's hard, I think,

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to find the balance of like putting yourself out there

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 1>and like making connections, etcetera, etcetera, while still feeling like

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:03.919
<v Speaker 1>a genuine human being. Right Weirdly, I would say I'm

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of teams, Like I have hired a

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>bunch of my friends. We have like four or five

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.280
<v Speaker 1>people that you know, have are part of the whole

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Bell Shepherd Empire. Whatever it is we do over here,

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>God only knows, but most of them have been long

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:20.240
<v Speaker 1>term friends because I'm a person that likes to start

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 1>with trust, and I know that that can be tricky

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>for some people, like don't hire your friends, but for me,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I need to know can I call you from midnight

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>from a jail cell and will you bail me out? Like?

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 1>Is there like there is there an ultimate trust factor?

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Will you watch my kids for twenty minutes if I

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>need to run somewhere? Like that kind of a thing

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>more than just a business relationship, but I do. I

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>will say, once I finally installed a team that did

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>different things like having a publicist and having this, I

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 1>actually felt it was easier to be an authentic person

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because then I wasn't responsible for all of it. But

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it was incredibly hard for me to delegate in the beginning.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 1>So I would say, make sure you're looking in the

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mirror and asking yourself, is this my hesitancy to delegate?

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 1>Because I do like the control, because I identify with

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>what you said in a major way. I wanted to

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>be able to control it, and I like to micromanage,

0:41:10.080 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and I like to know every little piece of the puzzle.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 1>But the moment I found a trustworthy person that I

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>handed that off to, like you're going to be the

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>one to tell everyone that I'm awesome, I don't want

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to say it to anybody. I just want to walk

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>in the room and be awesome. I don't want to

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>have to tell everybody. You notice I was awesome. Right.

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Once you pass that off to someone, it's shockingly gets

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>easier and it's hard like the first month, but then

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you breathe a lot easier. Um, knowing that you can

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.760
<v Speaker 1>rely on members of your team to do a specific task,

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>like one it's the publicist, or one is responsible for

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>editing your stuff or whatever it is. Okay, yeah, Christian,

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>are you in a position where you can do that,

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>where you have people that can help you or um?

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>But not quite. I mean I have like friends that

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>have some of those skills, and I'm not quite at

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>a point where I, like, I can't hire anybody, right

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Because what I was gonna say, it's the kind of

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>calm flickt of having to be self promotional all the

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 1>time and also feeling disingenuous about it sometimes, you know

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>where it feels like you're selling yourself or self you know,

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>promoting yourself so much. It is just a nature of

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>this business that you kind of have to just get

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>on board with. So, you know, the more you resist anything,

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it becomes a bigger and bigger hill to climb over

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>instead of just accepting that this is part of the business,

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>especially in these days, you know, it's a multimedia, multi

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>platform promotional thing, like you have to kind of get

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.399
<v Speaker 1>on board with that because there are people that are

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 1>willing to do that, and they're going to be doing

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it harder and better and stronger. So it is just

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that comes with the nature of

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>being in this industry. You know, you kind of have

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>to wear a lot of hats a lot of the

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.840
<v Speaker 1>time until you're in a position where you can delegate

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 1>to more and more people. But the way to get

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>to that position is by really just you know, putting

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 1>your best foot forward and having Sometimes when you have

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a bad attitude about something, you know what I mean,

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it creates such a barrier between you and the very

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>thing that you have to do. That's how I felt

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>about Instagram in the beginning. I was like, I can't

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>possibly be doing this, you know what I mean, posting

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>pictures like personal? How much more personal could I get?

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>There was no secrets to be in with so, you know,

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>But then I just now I love it because I

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>have fun with it and I have embraced it in

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a way where I just understand that it's part of

0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 1>the business, and yes, it's a younger, newer part of

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the business. But there's no point in me not jumping

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>on board and just having the right attitude about it.

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So I think all of those little things that are

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of seemed so cumbersome or seem overwhelming, if you

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>could really just work your way around it and to

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>really just look, even if it's with like affirmations in

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the morning, or if it's with you telling yourself like,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.600
<v Speaker 1>this is part of the process, and it's it's a

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>way to get to the next stage, so that you

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>do have an opportunity to be in a position like

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Kristen or me where you have people taking care of

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>all the things that you don't necessarily want to be

0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 1>using all of your main time to focus on. And also,

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>i'd say, first of all, the fact that you are

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>either and hesitant about or you have reservations about feeling inauthentic,

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 1>it speaks to the fact that you're probably a very

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>good hang, you know what I mean. Like people that

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like love being self promotional and have no qualms about it,

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>those are bad hangs, you know. But you you seem

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like a very awesome person, and just don't forget to

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 1>frame what you're doing all of it, whether it's auditioning

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>or directing or editing or whatever it is a writing

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>don't forget to frame it with the love and confidence

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that you started out with, Like you don't have to

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>think of it like a business at all times. And

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that's oddly what reads to people, like that effervescence of like, oh, yeah,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it because you love it. So if you

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>go to a party and somebody's talking about let's say

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you wrote and start in a web series, someone's talking

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.839
<v Speaker 1>about their's, you bring yours up, not because you're trying

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to be self promotional, but because you have skin in

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 1>this game, because you loved what you created and you

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>want to share it with people, and you're proud of it,

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was passionate for you. And I will say,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>share ring on that level with that framework, to me

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>always reads differently, Like I can tell when someone's sharing

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 1>something because they love it and they're passionate about it,

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 1>even if they're sort of using the same words as

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>someone who's trying to be self promotional, like if you

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>really love it, which you seem like you do because

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you're you're thinking, you're very thoughtful about it, Like remember

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>how passionate and confident you are to have gotten to

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>even this stage where you're you're hustling to do it,

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and leading with that kind of framework might make it

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit more fun, like what Chelsea was saying,

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>going from Instagram feeling like a headache to like, oh no,

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I have fun with it well, and something that a

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine did, this might be helpful to sort

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of distance herself from um, the fact that you have

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to say this stuff about yourself. A friend of mine

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>when he was building his business, and this was just

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like a regular a regular business, not entertainment industry thing,

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but he set himself up a Gmail. It was like

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 1>a made up person, Shannon Jones at gmail dot com,

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and he would get either himself he would write emails,

0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>or he would get like an online assistant, like someone

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>who's very low cost through Elans or another one of

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>those online companies, and he would just have that same email.

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Someone could send stuff through that same email, so if

0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you had to switch assistance, they could still be sending

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>from that same email address. And it helped him to

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of like put himself out there in a way

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>that was not him touting his own wares, but like

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>seemed like he had a team when he couldn't afford

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>to have a team, so maybe that can help give

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you a little distance from that. Well wow, that was great.

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you've got some good advice today, Kristen, Yes,

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I do. Thank you. Oh good, well good, Yeah, I

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>think you're going to be just fine. Okay, great, I'll

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 1>report back, yeah, report back to us. Okay, you can

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 1>take a little bit of what we all said. We

0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>all gave you good stuff. So yeah, thank you. All right,

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>nice to meet you. Thanks Kristen. Girls helping girls doesn't

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that just heartwarming? I know it's if I had

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 1>come into the business now and had to hustle in

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.879
<v Speaker 1>this environment. I don't know, it's too many, so many

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>balls in the air, but you just have to take

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>one ball at a time and just be like, Okay,

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this, this and this, because otherwise everything

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:14.720
<v Speaker 1>is overwhelming. And staying in your lane. That's another thing. God,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I hate giving him so much credit, but that Dax

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>taught me is like, you know, ten years ago, when

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I would just be like, man, Michelle Williams got it again,

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna get that part. He he just looks

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>at me and he goes stay in your lane, Like

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 1>stop trying to be this like indie actress just because

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you think that that's cool at the moment. Like you

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have a weird quirky vibe. Be in movies that have

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a weird quirky vibe. If they're commercial, they're commercial. If

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they win, they win. If they don't, they don't. But

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>like I think that applies a lot to now when

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, right when you master Instagram, all

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, TikTok comes out. What the funk is TikTok?

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know how to do that.

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's like you have to do you have to

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:54.719
<v Speaker 1>be good with writing because you have to be on

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Twitter and promoting yourself and they have to do Instagram,

0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and then you have to also audition, and like she's saying,

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to write your own stuff,

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's just like too many hats. So pick two

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>that you love or three that you love and just

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>stay in those lanes. Yeah, that's good advice for anybody

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>who's comparing themselves to other people anyway, because that's such

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 1>a feudal game and it comes up all the time

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, and it's you know and and in

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 1>this industry, and it's hard not to compare yourself to

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>other people. But like, as long as you are you're

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you're missing your mark. You know, as long as you're

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 1>looking around, you are missing where you're standing. And the

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>only person that you should ever compare yourself to is

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the person you were yesterday is dax Is dad. While

0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>our next question comes from Abigail, she says, Dear Chelsea,

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>about two years ago, my sister told me I needed

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to read Chelsea's book Life Will Be the Death of Me,

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.399
<v Speaker 1>because Chelsea reminded her a little bit too much of me.

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a black and white thinker, stubborn, I think I'm

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>right all the time, and I hate being coddled. As

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, this makes it incredibly difficult to find

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a therapist or psychiatrist, but I need one. But the

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 1>idea of sitting in the room after paying to tell

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.759
<v Speaker 1>someone about my trauma for an hour to see if

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:07.919
<v Speaker 1>we're a good fit really just sounds like the most

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>exhausting version of a first date. I'm curious how you

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>found your therapist, Dan, and how you knew he was

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the one for you. What did you look for in

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist, and do you have any tips to weed

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>out the pool of candidates? Abigail, Well, we can both

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>speak to this because we both are very therapy pro therapy.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll go first because I think it's important. I met

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>my guy because I was interviewing him on my old

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>talk show on Netflix. So that's not how you're going

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 1>to meet yours unless you have a talk show on

0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Netflix and you can interview psychiatrists. But the more important

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 1>reason was because I knew, like you, that I needed

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to make a change and that my anger was getting

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:47.080
<v Speaker 1>too unmanageable and that I needed some help to articulate

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>what was really underneath that anger, which is for everybody

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is different, but it's usually an injury or deeper something

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that you haven't been able to look at or accurately articulate.

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:00.320
<v Speaker 1>In my case, it was something that but to me

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was very young. But you know, you can't

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>look at therapy and go I don't want to deal

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>with that, because that is what therapy is, not wanting

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 1>to deal with things. So you know, I didn't take

0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:12.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of joy and going to my therapist office

0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:15.120
<v Speaker 1>week after week when I knew i'd break down and

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>be vulnerable in front of a man, which was my

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>number one issue. Not being vulnerable in front of men

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>was like my way to protect myself against any hurt

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>or any disappointment from any mail. But it's a process,

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>just like it is to go out and date. Like, yeah,

0:50:28.120 --> 0:50:30.280
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to go on a bunch of eight first dates,

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>but it's necessary if you're really serious about finding somebody

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:36.319
<v Speaker 1>that's combatible to you. And that applies to therapists too,

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>so you kind of you know, the first step is

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>always the hardest step, and then once you take the

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>first step, there's a domino effect that happens just by

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 1>you putting the energy towards healing yourself and trying to

0:50:46.320 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>find the person. It comes to you more easily when

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>you are open and willing instead of shutting down and

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>resisting it. So as long as you make you know,

0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 1>go to a therapist, find somebody, get a reference from

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>a friend or referral from a friend, or go to

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>better help online, go you know what, however casual or

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 1>serious you want to make your encounter, but that will

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.359
<v Speaker 1>give you a direction of what's going to work for you.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And if you go and you meet with somebody and

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work, then that's no reason for you to

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.880
<v Speaker 1>give up. That's more of an impetus for you to

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:17.200
<v Speaker 1>go to the next person and try it out again.

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to tell people your life story to

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>find out if it's a fit. That's not what a

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>first therapy session it really is. Anyway, I agree, and

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I will even jump off of one thing you need

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to do before all that. You need to sit down,

0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:31.759
<v Speaker 1>open your calendar and decide how many hours a week

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are you willing to put into you And maybe that's

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:37.280
<v Speaker 1>one hour a week, maybe that's six, But what how

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 1>badly do you want personal growth? And how many hours

0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>a week are you willing to devote to that? Maybe

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it's four That seems barely reasonable. If you're like, I

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>really want personal growth, I'm gonna give this four hours

0:51:48.560 --> 0:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a week. Well, maybe one hour is making a list

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of texting and friends. Do you guys go to a therapist?

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you like him? If so, why or looking up

0:51:57.360 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>someone online? Are going to better help? And then the

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 1>other three are scheduled appointments. So don't go in thinking

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that this is gonna be your soul mate like because

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>not all therapists are the same everybody's got a different style.

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.359
<v Speaker 1>I knew I was in love with my therapist when

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the first time I went in. Can you hear my

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 1>husband clearing his throat in the background? Um, I really

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>so loud. I went into my therapist, Harry, and and

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I started talking and he said, just let me. Let

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 1>me tell you one thing. I am so happy to

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>take your hundred dollars this hour, and you can talk

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>for as long as you want. When you would like

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a solution, you just let me know. And I would

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>No one had ever spoken to me like that in

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>my life. And I was like what. It was so

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.879
<v Speaker 1>practical and it was so attractive, and he was like, yeah,

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>there will be an end to you complaining and there

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>will be a solution when you start the work. And

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>everything works like that. If you want to get a

0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really rock and core and you want to be super strong,

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't do one sit up, You go back to

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the gym all the time, or you do whatever activities

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to do. So you got to decide how

0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>much effort you willing to pour into yourself and once

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you once you acknowledge that, then give those hours into

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the trial and error that will be necessary to find

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the person that will help you with the most personal growth,

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 1>and that adjustment period is much quicker than we all think.

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>We always think it's such a hurdle, and it's not.

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It is so easy to rehabituate your habits and to

0:53:19.600 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden get addicted to personal growth because

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>once you get in with somebody that is giving you

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>information that you're able to digest and apply to your life,

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it becomes addictive. And then you realize, oh, wow, I

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>can change and I could become this better version of myself,

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and I can apply all of these things in real time,

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and that in and of itself becomes something so worthwhile.

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, nobody's ever gone to therapy and been like, wow,

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>that was a mistake, you know. I mean, there are

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 1>some shitty therapists, but therapy overall as an idea is

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>always going to benefit you. It's just like meditation. No

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.439
<v Speaker 1>one's like, fun, I can't believe I meditated this morning.

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That ruined my day. And also remember, even if you

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:01.399
<v Speaker 1>go to one that give you advice you don't think

0:54:01.520 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>is fitting for you, that's fine. Then you still have

0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>checked something off the list. I found the type of

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.720
<v Speaker 1>advice I don't like I found the type of advice

0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't need right now that's not going to work

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for me. Either I'm not there yet to apply it

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>or genuinely isn't something I need to work on. And

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:20.040
<v Speaker 1>this person sort of misread the situation or I didn't

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:23.359
<v Speaker 1>explain it accurately, whatever it is, but be open. I mean,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I will say, like I love getting advice from people.

0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I love how knowing how people accomplished little things, whether

0:54:29.960 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>it's cooking or raising kids or relationship or whatever. You

0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>can take all of it in. You don't have to

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>use any of it, but it Once you know what

0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:44.839
<v Speaker 1>works for you, that's when you're starting your ascension. Yeah.

0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>And I would even say it to this point of

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like shitty therapist like you said, Chelsea, or somebody who's

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>just not a right fit for you is don't do

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:54.319
<v Speaker 1>what I did many years ago when I got someone

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 1>who was legitimately a lemon, like she did not know

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>anything about me. From week to weeks, she would be like, Oh,

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.720
<v Speaker 1>how's your boyfriend Greg? And I'd be like my husband, Brad,

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 1>that ship. Yeah. I saw her just enough times for

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>her to uncover a lot of like deep hurt that

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I had specifically on my father. And you know, I

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>previously it had a good relationship with my father, and

0:55:18.440 --> 0:55:21.399
<v Speaker 1>after that, like I quit going to her after having

0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:23.279
<v Speaker 1>that stuff uncovered and being like she doesn't know who

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I am. Whatever, this is fine, I'm gonna not go anymore.

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 1>So I quit and I didn't immediately find another therapist,

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and I went through a year of just like being

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.200
<v Speaker 1>really angry at my dad because I had all this

0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:35.720
<v Speaker 1>like stuff that had gotten uncovered but then hadn't gotten

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>dealt with. So don't do what I did. And if

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you get a lemon or somebody who's just not a

0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>good fit, go find somebody else. But you see the

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.839
<v Speaker 1>value in that as well. Though, now you you can

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you can frame any situation, even if it's negative, with

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>value of like, oh I walked out of that relationship,

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that relationship with that therapist who was a lemon was

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a value to you, because now you don't want sort

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of twisted into a positive not to be too sunshine

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and rainbows about it, but you really can't twist it

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>into a positive of going, well, now I know what

0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want, and that's more information I have, Yeah,

0:56:08.600 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>more information and a wait for you to set the

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:13.879
<v Speaker 1>standard for the next time that you go okay, so well,

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that this was all great. First of all,

0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 1>christ and I knew you'd be good to giving advice

0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>because you you are. And I was right because my

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>instincts are good and we're gonna close this out. But

0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you one thing, Kristen that I'm

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 1>curious about, because I know you have a lot of

0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:29.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of close friendships. You guys have a big

0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 1>friend group, both you and Dex together. How do you

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>handle conflict with with your friendships. You're not gonna like

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:40.120
<v Speaker 1>this answer. It's not buried under the rug. We edited.

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of editing. The pandemic allowed us

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to create a social experiment that we never would have done,

0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know those hundred people that are in

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>your phone that you're always like, hey, next month, let's

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.360
<v Speaker 1>grab a cup of Joe and you don't, or you

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.760
<v Speaker 1>do and it's miserable but you feel like you should

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. We picked. There's ten adults, ten kids in

0:57:02.760 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 1>our pod. We're always close with these people, but it

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>was never like this group of people shut off the

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:10.680
<v Speaker 1>rest of the world. But during the pandemic, we realized

0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>there's such a comfort level here that everyone is not

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>on the same page. But but the compatibility level is there.

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants conflict to be in this group, and there's

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>everybody kind of has a role and the dynamics are

0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:29.000
<v Speaker 1>acceptable to everyone. That we just edited everybody else out,

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>like we don't really hang out with a ton of

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 1>new people at all. We continually received new information and

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>because we're always you know, reading books, are talking about things.

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But the reality is I don't experience much conflict with

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>my friends because I don't tolerate negativity that when I

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 1>get that bad feeling in my stomach, I steer clear

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.160
<v Speaker 1>of it. Well, that's good advice, and that's a good

0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>way for us to end this podcast today, because I

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:55.919
<v Speaker 1>think that's a very important thing that people who really

0:57:55.920 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are interested in getting themselves healthy do eventually reject negative

0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.800
<v Speaker 1>vibes and negative people around them, and that's a good

0:58:03.880 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 1>lesson for everybody to have or learn. Chelsea, I think

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 1>we have to take a quick break before we wrap

0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 1>up with Kristen. Chelsea, I just want to ask you

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>before we go, do you you seem like a fairly

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 1>tell me if I'm reading this wrong, not codependent person.

0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any advice for me about how to

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it's a mantra or a framework or a practice,

0:58:32.960 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>because I struggle with codependency so often, to help me

0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>just be a little less paralyzing the codependent. I am

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 1>not codependent. You're right. I am very the opposite of codependent.

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>But that's I think because I don't have a lot

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of responsibilities that would make me codependent. I'm in a

0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 1>relationship right now where my boyfriend is codependent. He wants

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:56.040
<v Speaker 1>to be together every single minute and do everything together.

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>And I allow that because I have a pretty healthy

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>relationship with myself and I understand when I need the

0:59:02.400 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>time to myself. But as far as something suggesting something

0:59:05.240 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to you, I would suggest something to you something that

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>really helps me understand who I am and to be

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>alone with like I think it's so important to sit

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>with yourself for a certain period of time each day,

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>even if it's twelve or fifteen minutes. This meditation I

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 1>do is the Chopra app and it's called well being challenges.

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>He's got tons of different sections, but there's a well

0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 1>being challenge that is all about you and living with

0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:33.960
<v Speaker 1>yourself like and living in unity with yourself and the

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>universe and living with love and living with abundance and

0:59:37.920 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 1>moving with love, and it's all just about your relationship

0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>with yourself and the strength that you have within and

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:48.439
<v Speaker 1>then that is unflappable no matter what is happening around you,

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that you are so anchored and centered. So that's a great,

0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 1>great practice that I can recommend that has helped me

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 1>immensely remind myself when I'm feeling like I'm being tugged

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:02.120
<v Speaker 1>or that that vibe is coming well being challenges, Okay,

1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I need to apply that because I will say I

1:00:03.880 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 1>just got back from I did a movie in London.

1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I got back about ten days ago, and I was

1:00:08.640 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 1>there for seven weeks, and the family had come out

1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to visit. But I will tell you the weeks that

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't there. The weekend days where I wasn't working.

1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I woke up in the morning and I was like,

1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I could get out of bed, but why what? What

1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 1>would be the point? Because I realized I actually don't

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>have many, if any goals or aspirations or desires when

1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not orbiting around or with someone else. Like I

1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, I could get out of this hotel room,

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:39.080
<v Speaker 1>but like, what would I even do right? Right? But

1:00:39.240 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>that's normal. That's normal to want to sit in bed

1:00:41.880 --> 1:00:44.360
<v Speaker 1>all day like your family's away, you're not working, like

1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of course, and there I need to cut myself some slack.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did find it like interesting to go oh

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm not orbiting around someone else, because I'm not

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 1>codependent in the fact that I always want to be

1:00:53.600 --> 1:00:56.520
<v Speaker 1>with someone. I just want to be in the same vicinity,

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 1>like I like to have the tribe in the house,

1:00:58.440 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but I don't need to leave, like in the same room,

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<v Speaker 1>are doing the same thing as you? But I do

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<v Speaker 1>need to know you're happy with me. And it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that ache of going are you happy with me? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I do enough for you? Did? I? Like, I don't know?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? Are you approving of my behavior, supersteeds, all

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<v Speaker 1>of my own instincts or desires? And I'm desperately working

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<v Speaker 1>on going No, I don't need to actually worry about

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<v Speaker 1>what you're processing, whether it's about me or someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to worry about my side of the street.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, maybe those well being challenges will allow me

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know myself because it reminds you that

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<v Speaker 1>you're enough. Everything you're doing is enough, and it's just

1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:35.680
<v Speaker 1>always grounding and centering to think about. There's one of

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<v Speaker 1>where he talks about grounding yourself in like your lower abdomen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, what you know? And at first

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<v Speaker 1>some of it just sounds so unreachable, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then us I was going on stage whenever I was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like fluttery or butterflies, are waiting for the audience

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<v Speaker 1>to respond before to indicate or dictate my show, was Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>how is the audience experiencing this? And it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going, no, you yourself, and then the audience is

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<v Speaker 1>going to experience you being grounded, and then it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what their what their reaction is, You're settled, you're strong,

1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:11.720
<v Speaker 1>and change their whole reaction to your show by doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's one thing I do fully believe in, because

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<v Speaker 1>I absorb everyone's energy around me. Like if you come

1:02:17.080 --> 1:02:19.440
<v Speaker 1>into the room and you were just teary eyed, I

1:02:19.520 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>will feel sad and I won't even know why, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that that happens, But I like absorb everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>energy and and and sitting with my own energy and

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<v Speaker 1>letting that be on the front burner is really really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me. But I know that when people can

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you can affect the room around you, like

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<v Speaker 1>I would bet that you might even have a better

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<v Speaker 1>show because not just because you've been grounded and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>performed better, but because you've influenced to the audience to

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<v Speaker 1>not and you've not come on stage with like anxiety. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely not reacting to other people's reactions. It's you. The

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<v Speaker 1>idea is to be remained steadfast and unflappable. So try

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<v Speaker 1>that and report back, Christen. I expect a full report back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to write in. I'm going to call in

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for being with us today. I love and

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<v Speaker 1>adore you. Please say hi to your lover for me

1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to our lover, because he told me that he I

1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:10.200
<v Speaker 1>was one of his cheat cheets. Potentially if you collects,

1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:14.439
<v Speaker 1>so go for it too much for I couldn't handle

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of condependency. I'd like, No, I already have

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<v Speaker 1>what to deal with. But I love you. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you have a great day. Thanks for being with us

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast. Thank you love you too. Bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you'd like to get advice from Chelsea and

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<v Speaker 1>one of her guests, please write into Dear Chelsea Project

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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com,