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Speaker 1: Finally I've got that. I've got some decisions that we

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Speaker 1: in Norman, Oklahoma, Winchester, Virginia, Spokeanne, Washington, eleven and Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: if you care about that sort of thing. In addition

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Speaker 1: I trust the development to continue. But that's kind of

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00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: my question. Does he elevate his game or does it plateau?

428
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Speaker 1: Is he just kind of more of the same because

429
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: he had trouble scaling consistency against the best teams he's played.

430
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: There have been some turnover issues here too, specifically in

431
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Speaker 1: the big games, and what I don't want to see

432
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Speaker 1: in a year where USC I fully expect to contend

433
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Speaker 1: for a playoff spot, I don't want to see I'm

434
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: just ripping Fresno State and going ripping Maryland. But when

435
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I look at the Ohio State game the Indiana game,

436
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: we got like a combined five picks. That's not what

437
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm interested in. Not in your third year as a starter,

438
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Speaker 1: I'd say medium to high only because I don't know

439
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: that I can count on that yet. Penn State middle

440
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: of spring ball right now. Rock O Beck's up there,

441
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: ninth year, tenth year as a starter at college somewhere

442
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: around there. He is a very very experienced player. Obviously

443
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: came over to State College with Matt Campbell when he

444
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 1: took the job. I'd go medium here. I go medium

445
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: because I don't want to fall into the trap that

446
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people fall into. They kind of did

447
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: it with Drew Isler last year, ironically enough, where you

448
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 1: just assume because a guy's coming back again for another year,

449
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: he just gets like fifteen percent better. Maybe he will,

450
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: or maybe we've seen his best, and his best is

451
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: not bad. But his best against the Big twelve was

452
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: good enough be in the mix every year. If I

453
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: take that caliber of play and I'm now putting him

454
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: up against big ten defenses, albeit not most of the

455
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: good ones in the regular season, but against big ten defenses,

456
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: how do I expect that to play out? His numbers

457
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: regressed last year a little bit. He is injured right now,

458
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: so he's recovering from injury. Now. He's not having to

459
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: learn a new system. That's good, but he's having to

460
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Speaker 1: learn new surroundings, and even as a borderline thirty five

461
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: thirty six year old man, that's going to be tough

462
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: for him. It is, so I'd say medium confidence there.

463
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: I'd say medium for Demond Williams at Washington. I don't

464
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Speaker 1: know how to quantify, how to interpret the whole trying

465
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Speaker 1: to leave and then not able to leave and so oh,

466
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: never mind, husky for life sort of thing. So I'm

467
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: just gonna say it and then I'm gonna move on.

468
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: But protects the ball. He's a good athlete. I wonder

469
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Speaker 1: if the cast is there, and I have trouble shaking

470
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Speaker 1: out of my mind the image of them struggling mightily

471
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Speaker 1: against Ohio State last year. Remember we took Jesse three

472
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Speaker 1: or four months last year. We were breaking down schedules

473
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Speaker 1: and we kept on looking at Ohio State schedule. If

474
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: there was a trap game, is that game in Seattle?

475
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: We kept on circling it, so did Ohio State. And

476
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: it was not much of a game, as I recall,

477
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: and Demon Williams would just forget that one. There could

478
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Speaker 1: be a year two production jump here. I'd go medium

479
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: on him, and our low to high special is Anthony

480
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: Calandria at Nebraska. This is one of the bigger wild

481
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: card quarterback situations in all of college football. Remember, Dylan

482
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: Ryola was the new face of the program. He was

483
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Speaker 1: the hope that we were placing our hearts in the

484
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Speaker 1: hands of. And then he's gone, and not just bailing

485
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: on you, like, no one really shed much of a

486
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: tear upon him leaving. It just didn't work. Kenny Minshi's

487
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: gonna work though, And Kenny she came to Lincoln. Was

488
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: he ever physically in town Jesse, We don't know, we

489
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: don't know, but he said bye. And so after oh

490
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: I have forty eight seventy two hours something like that.

491
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: The kenneya Minshi era came to an end, and then

492
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: they have to quote unquote settle and they have to

493
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: go to UNLV and they have to get Anthony Calandria.

494
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: I've just been around college football too long to be

495
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: shocked if Slash when this works out better than either

496
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: of those two would have. It really feels like he's

497
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: a better overall fit in this system. Now, there were

498
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: some ups and downs in spring ball. That's fine. That's fine.

499
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be great right now. This thing, if it

500
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: rounds into form, it'll probably be hideous against Ohio in

501
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: week one, Bowling Green in week two, still be a

502
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: little eh, but there'll be some signs. North Dakota comes

503
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: in there. Week three, it'll still be vanilla. But that's

504
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: okay cause the message boards will say we held some

505
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: stuff back. And then they go to Michigan State and

506
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: they got Maryland week four, Week five, that's when cop

507
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: diference play opens up. He could be ten of thirty

508
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: with three interceptions. He could be twenty one of twenty four.

509
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Light in the world on fire, and he's Big ten

510
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: player of the year bound in October. Any of these

511
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: things can happen, So my confidence is somewhere between low

512
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: and high on Anthony Calandria my eleven and one potential

513
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: prediction for Nebraska heavily depends on high confidence. But it's March,

514
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: so I don't have to nail that down right now. Okay,

515
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: that's what God created every month between March and September fourth.

516
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: In that, my friends, is a look at the big

517
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: ten quarterback situation. And if you'll just show this monitor

518
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: right at boom, that's a look at paidstatematerial dot com.

519
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: That's not exactly what the front page of the website

520
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: looks like. This is just something Bradley threw together. But

521
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: new items out now. I've got it on good authority.

522
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: Cold weather is mostly gone. Talk to a lot of

523
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: sources on that earlier today. Cold weather is mostly gone. Now.

524
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: If you want to go buy a law leave gear

525
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: from paytstatemaateial dot com, that's your constitutional right. I am

526
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: not going to stand in your way, but I would

527
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 1: just say, specifically this time of year, the Peate State

528
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: Strength and Conditioning teas fly off the shelves. I have

529
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: worn one myself within the past forty eight hours, and

530
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: you guys know how rarely I changed clothes. So if

531
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: it's good enough for me, I promise it's more than

532
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: good enough. Well, actually the opposite should be true. But

533
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: you ought to go buy one. That's what you ought

534
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to do. We're trying to we're trying to make Alex happy. Okay,

535
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: when we get happy text from her, Alex runs the

536
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: store for us, then it's a happy day for us.

537
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Let's move along. Springball spring practices continue. Some teams have

538
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: already had their spring game. Tennessee just wrapped up a scrimmage,

539
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: so we put our ear to the ground, which just

540
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: means we checked out what Brent Hubbs had to say

541
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: over on vaul Quest and maybe a whisper or two

542
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: Elsewherejim Knowles is the defensive coordinator there all right, So

543
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: in case you missed it when Penn State got busted

544
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: up and everyone went their separate way, Jim Knowles the

545
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who two years ago was winning a national

546
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: title of Ohio State. He is now in Knoxville, Tennessee. Now,

547
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: if you're a sick go like you've known this for

548
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a long time, but you got to keep in mind

549
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: there are some people. In fact, there are a lot

550
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: of people. Any given show is the first show they've

551
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: listened to in a while because they've kind of been

552
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: checked out on college football. They may not know Jim

553
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Knowles took the job in Knoxville, but yes, Jim Knowles

554
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: resides in the same state that Jesse and I do.

555
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Right now. Wow wow. And he didn't come alone. He

556
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: brought some transfers with him. He brought some support staffers

557
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: with him, but more importantly, he brought players some Penn

558
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: State infusion on defense at every level, all three levels there.

559
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: And what that's done for what is normally a very

560
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: very complex system that takes a while to learn. Is

561
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: it sort of expedited things. The thing you keep hearing

562
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: out of Knoxville is, you know, we're a little bit

563
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: ahead of where we thought we would be defensively, and

564
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: this isn't one of those things where the offense just sucks.

565
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: More on that in a second, No, I really think

566
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: that because he didn't come alone, but he brought some

567
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: folks with him. I think it's a big deal. Dewan Lane,

568
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: for instance, is kind of a leader in that secondary

569
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: right now. Well, he wasn't there, He wasn't at Tennessee

570
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: last year. He came via the portal with Jim Knowles,

571
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: what about quarterback? Meant to mention this the other day

572
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: and I didn't because unlike the situation at Bama, Yeah,

573
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: this one is still up in the air. So in

574
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: a way it does have that in common with Alabama.

575
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: The Alabama quarterback battle. I kind of feel like either

576
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: one can win. I'm trying to figure out if Tennessee

577
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: has that. Josh Hipel normally finds this guy, so we

578
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: don't have to play a game this week, fortunately, But Faison,

579
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: Brandon and George McIntyre, you any given day, hear different

580
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: things about different guys, Like you can find a lot

581
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: of people inside that program who would tell you, well,

582
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, George looked better today.

583
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

584
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Man fez On, he gives us the long term upside.

585
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: If it's close, we might as well start him. Just

586
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: still trying to figure that out. And I don't really

587
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: care right now because they're not even done with spring

588
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: ball yet. But that defensive note from Brent Hubs and

589
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: several other people around there, that's encouraging because remember they

590
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff last year. They were sixth in

591
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: the country defensively two years ago, and they dropped a

592
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: ninety second last year, Nebraska's done, not as a program,

593
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Nebraska's just done with their spring game already. If there's

594
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: someone who's done with their spring game, I think it's

595
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna be like Arizona. I think it's somebody who just

596
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: wanted to get outside calls. It was warm, Matt Rule

597
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: essentially hooked up the equipment to dog sleds and mushed

598
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: his way out on the practice field as quickly as

599
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: he could. Spring game was yesterday, and I did a

600
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: thing that is a very very dangerous thing to do

601
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: in college football. I turned the Nebraska's spring game on

602
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: at all the right moments, and I saw some things,

603
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: frankly I shouldn't see, fresh off the heels of a

604
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: ten win prediction from last year that didn't quite come true.

605
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I saw some throws made into some tight windows. I

606
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: saw Jamal Rule, true freshman running back run for one

607
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: point twenty and I saw those things, and I said

608
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: eleven and one. I could see it eleven and one.

609
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: Anthony Calandria very mixed bag as I was just talking

610
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: about a little while ago at quarterback. But things feel

611
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 1: more fluid, they feel like they're moving faster. Here's what

612
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: it feels like to me, it's a situation where they're

613
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: trying to just get everything in order. You know, they're

614
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: shaking the game and all the pieces have yet to

615
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: fall into their proper places, but they will. That's what

616
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I feel about Nebraska's offense, whereas last year it kind

617
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: of didn't feel that way. I hoped it, but I

618
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: never felt it. I feel I feel Dana Holgerson this year.

619
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Speaker 1: I don't just know of him. I feel Dana Holgerson

620
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: this year. Compton has not paid me to say any

621
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: of this. And I was looking at some of their

622
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver production last year. They lose number one, number three,

623
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Speaker 1: and number four and pass catchers? Was it five too, Jesse?

624
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Did we ever figure that? So? Just one, three, and four?

625
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: Ja Corey Barney? You feeling him because he was wide

626
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: receiver to last year? I'm not asking is he going

627
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: to be Nebraska's wide receiver one. I'm asking when I

628
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: look across the landscape of the Big Ten this year,

629
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Speaker 1: will he stack up. I'm not saying we have Jeremiah

630
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: Smith two point zero on Lincoln. I don't misconstrume me.

631
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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. Just right behind Jeremiah Smith,

632
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: that's all I'm trying to ask. I'm cooking up a

633
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: prediction on Nebraska. I still got several months to back

634
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: off of it, but I am. I'm writing it down

635
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: right now. I just wrote it now. I'm not gonna

636
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: say it out loud, but I wrote it down. Miami,

637
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: we were just down there last week, watched them practice

638
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. Ninety five percent of what I witnessed

639
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I cannot report to you because that is the NDA

640
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: that I signed in my own blood in Mario's office

641
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: before we watched practice. However, I'm not the only one

642
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: that's talked about Miami, so I'm absolutely happy to deliver

643
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: information second hand. Truthfully, I saw a lot of this too.

644
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: Jackson can't well number one overall player in the country

645
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: courtesy of Rivals this past recruiting cycle. I stood next

646
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: to Jackson cant Well in the hallway the other day

647
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: briefly spoke to him. When Bradley puts six seven and

648
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: a half three twenty five on the graphic, it's probably

649
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: a little low. I would venture to guess he may

650
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: be a little bigger than that, and he's not even

651
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: the biggest dude on that offensive line, so I know

652
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: size is not everything. I watched Alabama, just like you

653
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: guys did last year. Size is not everything on the

654
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. But this is a place where they have

655
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: earned benefit of the doubt that they're going to put

656
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: a really good product on the field. And I think

657
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: they'll do that again this year. But at the wide

658
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: receiver position. Okay, when I went down there, and when

659
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm reading practice reports, and when I'm talking to anyone

660
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: around Miami or at Miami, the wide receiver position is

661
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: what I have been focused on because Malachai Tony is

662
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: a known commodity. Okay, Cooper bar Kate, We've talked about

663
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: him a lot on the show. They brought him in

664
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: from Duke, so they brought Darien Mensa, he's going to start,

665
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: former quarterback, but they also brought Duke's number one receiver

666
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: in there. And I've seen more than a couple of

667
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: times people sort of list those two Malachi Tony Cooper

668
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: bar Kate, and then it's kind of like and friends.

669
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to put a lot of unjust pressure

670
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: on that place. Miami has the physical ability to be

671
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: one of the top receiver rooms in the country. Like

672
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: Josh Moore, Josh Moore, I could take him put on

673
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of teams and he'd be the best receiver

674
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: on those teams this year. And I'm talking about teams

675
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: that aren't in root to go on four and eight.

676
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about teams that could contend. So Miami's got

677
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: some really good players that you don't know the names

678
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: of yet. Some of them from the portal. Some of

679
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: them are just true freshmen that they really feel like

680
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: they hit on. I feel really good about that receiver room.

681
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that I've talked a lot about,

682
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: and I had my eye on when I went down

683
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: there last week, Damon Wilson pass rush specialists thus far

684
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: in his career, transfers in from Missouri, and I'm looking

685
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: at it and I'm saying, man, with Bane and Mesador

686
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: out the door, they're losing a lot in pass rush,

687
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: but they're losing a lot and run stopping ability too.

688
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: I wonder if Damon Wilson can do that? Is he

689
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: really a true three down guy? Can they depend on him? Now? Look,

690
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: he's got to prove that. I got the sense they

691
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: feel okay about that. I think they feel like he's

692
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: got it in him. But also I feel like they

693
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: believe that their culture just pulls that out of you,

694
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: or else you won't be on the field because this

695
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: is not an operation that is dependent on one player.

696
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Like you got Moten and Scott's still there at defensive tackle,

697
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: you got Blount, got light foot, They're still loading in

698
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: their defensive front. So I think Damon Wilson will work

699
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: out at the very least as a pass rusher, but

700
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: he may not be half bad against the run either.

701
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: What about Old Miss? Since you and I last spoke Thursday,

702
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Trinidad Chambliss has been ruled eligible by the NC double A. No, no, no,

703
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: they didn't rule them eligible. The Mississippi Supreme Court just

704
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: told the NC DOUBLEA they don't matter what a streak,

705
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: what a court court versus NC double A. So Trinidad

706
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: Chambler's good to go. And you know what that means.

707
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: It means Old Missus win total is low. It's still

708
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: seven and a half. It's juice to the over now,

709
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: but seven and a half is too low. Trinidad Chamberliss

710
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: is the quarterback for this team this year because they

711
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: have overhauled that secondary. They portaled a whole new one

712
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: in and it wasn't terrible last year. It wasn't great,

713
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: It wasn't terrible. But they've portled a whole new one

714
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: in and Kiwan Lacy is still on this team and

715
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: they could be excellent at receiver. They are top thirty

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: as it is in returning production. There's a fire lit

717
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: under that entire program because of what Lane Kiffin did.

718
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Some say he elevated professionally. Some have just renamed him

719
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Judas on his Wikipedia page. So wherever you stand on that,

720
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: those people and that organization is very motivated to prove

721
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: the world wrong this upcoming year. And I'm telling you

722
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: seven and a half is too low, and Jesse, that's

723
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: coming from someone This has been well documented in the

724
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 1: replies that hates old myths. Of course. If there's one

725
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: thing I spent my childhood doing growing up in Harris County, Georgia,

726
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: it was holding a grudge against old Miss football. Everybody

727
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: from West Central Georgia is just born with like rebel

728
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: hatred in their bless just oh Miss football. Ugh. I

729
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: still don't know where it came from. The search continues

730
00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: as to where that lie that myth came from. A

731
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: question that I gave way more thought to than I should.

732
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: And it came from Mike in McAllen, Texas, and he said,

733
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: if you could place Pate State's CAMPI which shouldn't be

734
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: a plural form because it's just one campus. But if

735
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: you could place Pate State's campus anywhere in the USA,

736
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: where would you place it. Some of you may think,

737
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Atlanta. Some of you are thinking Houston, Birmingham.

738
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: Some of you are thinking you just look at a

739
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: TV ratings report and you just place Pate State right

740
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: there in the heart of the hottest college football epicenter

741
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: in America. I'm going to New York City. All due

742
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: respect to Syracuse New York's football team, they're not moving

743
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: the needle like we need them to right now, nor

744
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: have they ever, at least in the color television era.

745
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: And Rutgers No, you know when I'm not going to

746
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: do it. But you guys know what the deal is. Okay,

747
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: So New York City has what like eight or nine

748
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: million people there. And here's the way that I look

749
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: at the citizens of New York City. Not the way that,

750
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: not the way mem did growing up. Okay, I look

751
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: at the citizens in New York City when we go

752
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: up there and we walk the streets, I look at

753
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: potential college football fans that just haven't been shown the

754
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: way yet. In fact, that's how I look at every

755
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: American citizen. You got two kinds of people in this country.

756
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: You got college football fans and then you got people

757
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: who just haven't been shown the way properly yet. That's it.

758
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: There are no other kinds of people in this country.

759
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: There's literally two kinds. And that goes for New York

760
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: City as well. And so if no one else is

761
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: going to claim that territory, like Lincoln Riley is trying

762
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: as hard as he can to do it out in

763
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and now Bob Chesney's taking the job across town.

764
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: So someone's trying in La no one's trying in New York.

765
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: I think we need to try in New York and

766
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: so I've looked at a few facilities, these possibilities. It's

767
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: gonna cost us a little bit, Okay, I don't know

768
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: that I can get a full one hundred yard indoor.

769
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't know that we can pull that off. We

770
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: probably have to build up instead of out. But the

771
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: bottom line is I am put in the campus right

772
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: there in New York City, I'm not even gonna specify

773
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: a burrow like the Red Hook section of Brooklyn. I

774
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: don't want Lower Manhattan, Jesse. I don't want to be

775
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: anywhere near that. Okay, I don't want anyone in a

776
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: suit within five blocks of our campus. No, I want

777
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: to be where Taz is from. I want to be

778
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: from like Brooklyn. That's where I want to go. They're

779
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: watching us in West Palm Beach, Florida, Bowling Green, Kentucky,

780
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Grand Rapids, Michigan. Thank you guys so much. You want chaos? Hey,

781
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: Savannah State is in here tonight? Like, is she in

782
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: there still? Could you ask her why she's texting me?

783
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: That's not the chaos scenario. This, in my hand is

784
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: the chaos scenario. We've been doing one of these per

785
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: show because really, what you want to do in March

786
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: and April is you want to throw as much against

787
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: the wall as possible and hope that in December something stuck.

788
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: And so tonight I want to go down the road

789
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: of potential chaos in the Big Ten. I'm all for

790
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: glowing positive hypotheticals this time of year. Some say it's

791
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: what I'm known for. I don't even fight the allegation,

792
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm a positive person. I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. And

793
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: so if everyone wants to assume that Julian Saying is

794
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: going to be a Heisman finalist this year and Ohio

795
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: State's going to seamlessly reload defensively, and if everyone wants

796
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: to assume that Dan Lanning found all the answers on

797
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: that offensive line and Oregon is going to go further

798
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: than they have at any point in any postseason in

799
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: years past, if anyone wants to assume that Kurt Signidi

800
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: and Indiana are just going to run it back, I

801
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: got no problem with that. Personally, I'm happy to traffick

802
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: in that with you. I'm more comfortable doing that. What

803
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying is this particular portion of the shows in

804
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: the spring, it's not called a Kumbaios scenario. It's called

805
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: a chaos scenario. And what we're trying to figure out

806
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: is is there something that's plausible? Is there something you know,

807
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: you walk the beach with the metal detector. If I'm

808
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: just scanning the Big Ten with that thing, is it

809
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: blipping somewhere? And here's the chaos scenario. The top of

810
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: the Big Ten is just not what we think it is.

811
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: Let's say that plays out, So humor me for a second.

812
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: How would this look. It's happened in the SEC the

813
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: last few years, So what if the roles are reversed

814
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: and it happens in the Big ten this year. No

815
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: one's got to fall off a cliff. But let's just

816
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: say Ohio State doesn't see quarterback play elevate like we

817
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: would hope. And let's say after two straight years of

818
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: really really high level attrition, that defense does come back

819
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: to earth. And let's say that schedule does bite Ohio

820
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: State this year. All right, mark that. And then at

821
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: the same time that's happening, let's say we're wrong about

822
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: Oregon's offensive line. Let's say they do have an issue there. Oh,

823
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: by the way, with any of these teams, injury could

824
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: just crop up and be a big time issue this

825
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: year or any year. Let's say with Oregon, let's say

826
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: Dante More is no better in the high leverage moments

827
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: than he was last year, And then I want you

828
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: to book mark that. And then I want you to

829
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: look at Indiana. Let's say the turnover issue continues to

830
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: plague Josh Hoover. Let's say, instead of being air tight,

831
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: in terms of execution and dominating on special teams and

832
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: forcing turnovers. Let's say Indiana's you know, just even or

833
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe gasp, even slightly below even, maybe minus two or

834
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: three turnovers this year. Maybe this portal class isn't just

835
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: the magical cure all lever that we think it may be,

836
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: that we assume it is. If that happens to those

837
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: three teams, well then the top of the Big Ten

838
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: is in play. But I'm thinking about the national title

839
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: because right now I just named three of the top

840
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: five teams in the college football playoff odds. So if

841
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: that's the case, those three are unlikely to win the

842
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: national title. Of course, my mind immediately goes to Boom

843
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame or Boom Texas, maybe Miami, Georgia, whoever. But

844
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: I also think about the Big Ten picture, because here's

845
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: the other thing that could happen. Now, those three teams

846
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: could be down and no one takes advantage of it.

847
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: Or those three teams could be down and Bryce Underwood

848
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: goes off in Michigan's a Big Ten champ or something

849
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: that would be I'm not gonna say out of left field,

850
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: but even more have to see it to believe it

851
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: for most of America. Would that be Lincoln Riley's shot.

852
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's got the quarterback situation the way he wants it.

853
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: They just landed the number one recruiting class. The early

854
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: word out of spring ball out there has been a

855
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: lot of those freshmen are ready to contribute. They feel

856
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: like their overall roster is a top ten roster. In fact,

857
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: they're even more aggressive than that about it internally. And

858
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: if Ohio State and Oregon and Indiana are down a

859
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: little bit and that coincides with USC peaking at the

860
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: right time, maybe just maybe we're hearing a different kind

861
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: of fight song in Indianapolis in early December. And need

862
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: I remind you the bakery that spat out this cookie

863
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: dough soft schedule that Penn State's gonna play. Maybe Matt

864
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: Campbell pulls it off in your one, Hey, it doesn't

865
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: really matter if those teams are down when you don't

866
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: play any of them to begin with, Like who cares

867
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: if they're down or not, but especially if they are down.

868
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell year one garbage out of conference schedule, not

869
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: much in the way of a conference schedule. And then

870
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: if he gets to Indianapolis and you got a really

871
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: wobbly Ohio State or a wobbly Indiana or organ or

872
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe none of them are there, and it's Penn State

873
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: USC or Penn State Michigan for the conference title. And

874
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: by that time, if Penn State's there, it means they

875
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: were pretty good at least. And then the other question

876
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: I would have is if Ohio State and Indiana and

877
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Oregon are down, why did it happen? There are only

878
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: one of two ways that happened, well, three ways. The

879
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: first one's injury. We can't predict that, so we dismissed

880
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: that number two. It could be self contained. It could

881
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: just be they didn't get the job done, they didn't

882
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: develop the way they needed to, they dropped the ball.

883
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say complacency, but stuff that you control,

884
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: you didn't handle your business. That could happen. Or it

885
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: could be that a whole bunch of the Big ten,

886
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: Tier two or Tier three jumped up. Nebraska, Iowa, Washington, Illinois,

887
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin like those sorts of teams are just flat

888
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: out better by a few points per team than we

889
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: expected them to be. Big ten could be a blood

890
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: bath this year, Jesse. Or it could be the same,

891
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: same old. We'll see, but same old, same old wouldn't

892
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: be chaotic. So I've been monitoring the headlines, and it

893
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: turns out Lane Kiffin did take the LSU job. We

894
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: had a question from Georgie just up the road in Elizabethtown, Kentucky.

895
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: He said, did you see that clip of Kiffin saying

896
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: we should be patient with him at LSU? To me,

897
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: you can ask for patients or you can ask for

898
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: thirteen million dollars a year, but you don't get both

899
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: at a place like LSU. Memau told us all the time,

900
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: casual people sometimes say dumb things they do. Dumb people

901
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: rarely say smart things. Though, what I think we have

902
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: here is Georgie is a smart person who has said

903
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: a very casual thing. Before I even go into this,

904
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Lane Kiffin to say.

905
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: This was after a spring practice the other day. They're

906
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: still in the middle of it. Done in Baton Rouge

907
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: spring practice one of year one for Lane Kiffin. He

908
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: stepped to the podium and had this to say.

909
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: Things don't happen overnight. You know, it takes a lot

910
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: of work to get a program up to an elite

911
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: performing program level, and so we're making the first steps,

912
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: but there's a ton of work to do, and like

913
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: I said before, we've as symboled to good roster, you know.

914
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: But at the same time too, you know, there's a

915
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 3: ton of work that goes into that to get programmed

916
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: back up to where everybody around here wants.

917
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: It to be.

918
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: And while the reason that we came here, you know,

919
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: it was seven and six last season, So within that

920
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: comes change. Within that comes a lot of work because

921
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: that's a long jump to go to the level that

922
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: I came here to get at and all the people

923
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: around the program want to be at.

924
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: So look, I hate to derail everyone's narrative out there.

925
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's right, Bradley, do me a favorite. Throw the

926
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: question back up again. I want to make sure I

927
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: read it properly. Georgie said, did you see Kiffin complaining?

928
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: Be patient with him. Okay, we just watched the clip,

929
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: all right, So this part, Georgie said. Here he said

930
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: to me, you can ask for patients, or you can

931
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: ask for thirteen million dollars a year. You don't get

932
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: both at a place like LSU. This is the great

933
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: conundrum in the modern age of college football. The conundrum

934
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: being people thinking that if you just pay someone way

935
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: more money than you used to pay, you get to

936
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: circumvent all the usual processes that it takes to build

937
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: a winner. Some of the dumbest logic, or lack thereof,

938
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: that exists in sports college football just happens to be

939
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: the one I love. Look, I know it's not what

940
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: a lot of you want to hear. Lane Kiffin's right,

941
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen would be right if I were paying him

942
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: thirteen billion dollars a year. A massive salary is not

943
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: some mechanism that's a magic bypass for what it takes

944
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: to win. It takes what it takes to win. You

945
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: pay me thirteen dollars thirteen million, thirteen billion. It's not

946
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: this magic lever where when you pull it up, we

947
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about what we'd have to worry

948
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: about if we were only paying him half of what

949
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: we're paying him. And by the way, Lane Kiffin didn't

950
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: pay himself thirteen million dollars. You did. You could pay

951
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: him whatever you want to pay him. I get how

952
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: the market works, I get how Jimmy Sexton works. But

953
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: the bottom line is you chose to do that. It

954
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: takes what it takes to win, no matter what you're

955
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: paying him. And then they go and they spend forty

956
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: million dollars on the roster, whatever the official number is.

957
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: They've spent a ton of money on this roster because

958
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: they want to flip it fast and they want to

959
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: win really quickly. That's great, that's great. Savannah State could

960
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: go to Whole Foods and in that whole place out

961
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: she could leave with ten carts. She could need an

962
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: eighteen wheeler to get all the stuff home. It's not

963
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: doing anything if it's just sitting on the counter. Nor

964
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: are football players as individuals until they become a team. Well, Josh,

965
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: that means he's just got to make them a team. Or,

966
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: to use the grocery metaphor, that means once the groceries

967
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: are brought home, you got to cook with him, I know.

968
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: So that circles back to the question I have for

969
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: Georgie there or for any LSU fan watch him. You

970
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: want him to use the microwave or the stove. Both

971
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: can produce a meal. The one you're looking for I

972
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: don't think comes from the microwave, and I know it's done.

973
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: No one any favor that Kurt Signetti just did what

974
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: he did at Indiana. If you are of the mentality

975
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: that what Signetti did is the new rule instead of

976
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: the exception, you're setting yourself up for supreme disappointment. I'm

977
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: just flat out telling you, I know it happened. I

978
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: watched it, just like the rest of you. That's not normal.

979
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: That is not normal. It is not the way it's

980
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: going to happen for most of you. I don't care

981
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: how much you pay a head coach, I don't care

982
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: how much you invest in your roster. You can give

983
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: yourself an opportunity to win. It's in all likelihood not

984
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: going to look like that. Okay, So if we remove

985
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: the extreme outlier from the equation and observe I don't

986
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: know the rest of known history, you could have all

987
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: the pieces in the world. And if this were tennis,

988
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. It was golf, it'd be wonderful.

989
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: If it's pingpong, it would be wonderful. This is still

990
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: a team sport. The same stuff wins that is always won,

991
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: and there's really really only a few ways to do

992
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: it right, a lot of ways to do it wrong.

993
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: But the stuff that it takes is the stuff that

994
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: it takes. I couldn't care less what Lang Kiffin makes.

995
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: Don't care because it's irrelevant to the process of what

996
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: it takes, is my point. And it feels like if

997
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: you were to use that logic in normal, every day

998
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: people are okay with it. Jesse. It's like when we

999
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: mix sports into the equation, when we mix college football

1000
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: into the equation, smart people say the most casual things

1001
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: that I know goodwill you would never say in your

1002
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: own personal life. You wouldn't say it at worked tomorrow morning,

1003
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: but you'll sit there and say, well, look, man, if

1004
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: we were only paying him eight and a half million, whatever,

1005
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: go eight and four year one. But we're paying him

1006
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: thirteen million. So that means the same human being is

1007
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: going to have more expected of him, even though scenario

1008
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: A versus scenario B, he's just capable of what he's

1009
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: capable of. I know the comment section will say, I'm

1010
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: carrying water for Lane Kiffin. Dude, I don't care what

1011
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: you say about Lane Kiffin. This could be Monty Kiffin,

1012
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: this could be any Kiffin, this could be anybody under

1013
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: the sun. The same logic applies. It's just we hear

1014
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: this more now because coaches get paid way too much. Now.

1015
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Who am I to say that coaches get paid a

1016
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: whole lot of money?

1017
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: Now?

1018
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: So you think you can like circumvent the process that

1019
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: it takes to win. So to go back to the question,

1020
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: you can either ask for thirteen million dollars or you

1021
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: can ask for patients. But you can't ask for both.

1022
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: I just think that's dumb. I don't think Georgie's dumb,

1023
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: but I think that's a dumb thing to say. I'm

1024
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: gonna pay you whatever it took for me to pay

1025
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: you because I thought you were the best out there

1026
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I've gotten the money to spend if

1027
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm LSU. But you can absolutely ask me for patients

1028
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: because that's what it takes. It'll always take that. I

1029
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: don't care how big salaries get in this sport. Oh

1030
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: side note, since we're on the subject, what are reasonable

1031
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: expectations for LSU this year? I got the third best

1032
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: odds to win the SEC. What are reasonable expectations is

1033
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: eight and four? Okay? I would assume most of you

1034
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: are gonna say no, is nine and three. Okay. I

1035
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: would assume most of you say, are we in the

1036
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: playoff at nine and three. If no, then no, and

1037
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: then follow up okay. Well, if he delivers a result

1038
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: that's not okay in year one, what are you gonna do?

1039
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: Fire him? What's happening there? Let's move on. This is

1040
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: going to be a tough part of the show, not fun.

1041
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: Some of you enjoy what I'm about to do, but

1042
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna enjoy what I'm about to do. The

1043
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: Truth Teller Series is continuing and we're circling Mike Norvell's

1044
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: name tonight. Mike Norvell has been at FSU a pretty

1045
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: good while now. Mike Norvel's coming off back to back

1046
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: really really bad seasons after a really great season three

1047
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: years ago. And what we do in the Truth Teller

1048
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: Series is we try and cut through all the plus,

1049
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: all the minus. We just try and filter out what's

1050
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: the reality here. I think Mike Norvell is an awesome dude.

1051
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: We went and hung out with him last spring, we

1052
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: spent a day down there, and then we've stormchased on

1053
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: the same day. We've never done that with any other coach.

1054
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: So Mike Novell is a great dude. I think it's

1055
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: a situation that's gotten away from him, and I think

1056
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: it'll lay itself out this fall and there'll be a

1057
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: lot of hot seat talk. And if there's one where

1058
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: it's going to go sideways during the year, maybe this

1059
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: is the one. I don't know, but it's just straight

1060
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: up not a good situation right now. It's the exact

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: reason people look at reliance on the transfer portal and

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: talk about it being a slippery slope, because you've seen

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00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: the absolute best and the absolute worst. In fact, you

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00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: saw it in back to back years. They went thirteen

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00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: and one in twenty twenty three, and they went two

1066
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: and ten the next year. Boggled the mind, and they

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: only rebounded to five and seven last year over under

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00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: six and a half this year, right Jesse at FanDuel

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Speaker 1: And honestly, this is a situation where an over could

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00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: hit and someone could still lose their job, because I

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00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's okay with seven and five down there.

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00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Recruiting has not been good, well, it's not been great.

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00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: At its best, it's been good, and that's the problem.

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00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: There hasn't ever been a time in his ten ures

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00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: there where you looked at the bedrock of the program,

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00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: the foundation of the program, and you said homegrown or

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00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: good enough. It's just been every year, let's spin the

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 1: poor lett or portal roulette wheel, let's see what comes

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00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: of it, and one year it was great, and then

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00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: the rest of the time not so much. But their

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00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: recruiting classes. We were on rivals earlier today looking at

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: their recruiting classes since he's been there twenty first, twenty first,

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty third, twenty second, twelfth, twentieth, twentieth, and fifteenth. So

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00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 1: five of those seven classes are twentieth or worse. Now, look,

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00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: if you're looking to make a bowl game every year,

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00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: that's plenty good enough. That's not what they're looking to do.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: You're in the same conference, You're in the same state

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: as Miami. Let me put it in another way, that's

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: about the equivalent of South Carolina football. South Carolina is

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00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: a program that if I were to just ask a

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00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: Florida State fans opinion on that, look down their nose

1092
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: at it. Maybe they shouldn't, but they would. That's you.

1093
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: That's you, just a in a more navigable conference. So

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: if anything, South Carolina's exceeded you, cause South Carolina's at

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00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: least competed in the SEC. You're in the ACC And

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00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't did they win a game away from home

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00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: last year, I don't think they did. No. Yeah, So

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00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: here's the other thing I was thinking about the other

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00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: day before I even knew we were going to talk

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: about Mike Norvel on the show tonight. I think sometimes

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: in football coaches get too far down the wrong road

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00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: and they know, in fact, they probably know before you do,

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm headed down the wrong road. But they know they

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: can't turn around. Like it's a very narrow road, there's

1105
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: no room to pull a y maneuver get back out

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00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: on the main road, and so they just have to

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00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: keep going and try their best. I think if Mike

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00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: Norvel could take the knowledge he has now from his

1109
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: past several years but have a magic start over, I

1110
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: think he'd be okay because he wouldn't rely on the

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: portal nearly as heavily now. The trade off is they

1112
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have that twenty twenty three season. But what

1113
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 1: he would do is he'd go recruit. He wouldn't beat

1114
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: Miami for kids. He wouldn't be top ten, top fifteen,

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: but they'd put together some solid classes, and they'd put

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Speaker 1: a premium on development, and they'd take a little time,

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: but they'd ended up being fairly competitive, but I think

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Speaker 1: more so than anything that'd be reliable, that'd be a

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Speaker 1: known commodity. Right now, it's just anyone's guess, and it

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Speaker 1: has been that. Anyone's guess what Florida State's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It was bound to happen to somebody, Like I know,

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Speaker 1: everyone looks at Mike Norvel now and you label him

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Speaker 1: all sorts of negative things, And it's easy to criticize

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Speaker 1: after you see how it turned out, like it's very

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01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: easy to say, oh men, they should have never leaned

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Speaker 1: on the portal like that. Okay, well, yeah, now we

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01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: all know that. But remember he had never been a

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Speaker 1: head coach in major college football yet, and so he

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01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: gets a major head coaching job right at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of a new wave of the sport, and so he

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01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: leans on the portal because now that's a thing you

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01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: can do, and they go thirteen and one, what would

1133
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: you have done? I think most people would have doubled

1134
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: down on that strategy. And by the way, for everyone

1135
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: who says they could tell in the moment that they

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01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: were doomed to failure, no, you didn't know. You couldn't

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: tell that. Everyone's going to say, oh man, everyone knew

1138
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: after that one year it was one and done. No,

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01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: you didn't. And if you say otherwise, I'm gonna ask

1140
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Speaker 1: you this. If everyone knew Florida State was a one

1141
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: and done just kind of flash in the pan, why

1142
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: did they start the twenty twenty four season number ten

1143
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: in the country. Why did I turn on college game

1144
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: Day and watch Nick Saban waltzing around their practice field

1145
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: talking about how good that talent roster?

1146
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: Look?

1147
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Why did that happen? No, people didn't see it coming.

1148
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: It ended up happening, But it's not because you saw

1149
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: it coming. Everyone sounds so smart after the fact, and

1150
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. Look, Mike Norvel's made some wrong decisions down there.

1151
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: Mike Norvel and their program, they've not recruited nearly well

1152
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: enough to the degree you should if you're at Florida State.

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01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: There are a million criticisms you can lob. All I'm

1154
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: saying is I kind of get it. It must be

1155
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: like trying to navigate through fog when you're a new

1156
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: head coach and you're kind of in this world where, oh,

1157
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: there's this thing called nil now that we can do legally. Oh,

1158
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: and the portals at our disposal, there was no blueprint.

1159
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: There wasn't like seventy years of historical context to draw on.

1160
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Everyone's just trying to figure it out on the fly.

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01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: And some people did and some people crashed and burned.

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01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: And then there's Mike Norvel who's kind of figured out

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01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: a way to do both. I mentioned they've got an

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Speaker 1: over under of six and a half wins. The reason

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Speaker 1: I know that is because of FanDuel, the exclusive odds

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Speaker 1: provider this show. Now, that's not a hypothetical. You can

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Speaker 1: go over there and look at that right now. I

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01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: was looking at yukon plus four and a half live

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01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: earlier today. Didn't bet it, but I could have. It

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Speaker 1: was there live, and there is a lot over there.

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Speaker 1: You got Heisman ods already up, you got week one

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Speaker 1: spreads already up. You got odds to win the conference

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Speaker 1: already up. A lot of you may be listening and saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, I've already done it. Others amongst us may

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01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: be saying, Josh, I don't bet. That's fine, you can

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Speaker 1: just go look. I mean these numbers. It's like going

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Speaker 1: to a library checking out a book, only this is

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Speaker 1: the way we do that these days. You just got

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Speaker 1: do the odds makers think about old coach Dickard over

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Speaker 1: The mood Tracker continues tonight, and it's time to talk

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Speaker 1: about Texas A and M. What is the mood of

1201
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: the fan base at Texas A and M. Right now,

1202
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little nuanced here with this particular mood.

1203
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: I have Texas A and M's mood, Billy Luci will

1204
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: we'll understand this as rollerblade ready? Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna

1205
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: give you a little time to think on it. Back

1206
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: in the day in Columbus, Georgia, not in the best

1207
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: part of town, but whatever, we went over to Lambert

1208
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: Skate Center birthday party, after birthday party, not mine because

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01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't celebrate my birthday, but friends of mine. Birthday party,

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Speaker 1: after birthday party, and for a long time they made

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Speaker 1: me rent the roller skates. Those are the four wheel

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01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: two on each side, the older school skates. It was okay,

1213
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: but I would see the bigger kids out there riding

1214
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: the roller blades, just the inlines, and I wanted them, Jesse,

1215
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: I wanted them bad. And finally, I don't know what

1216
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: the age of roller blade accountability is, but I finally

1217
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: reached it and they let me rent the roller blades.

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Speaker 2: One day.

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Speaker 1: It felt like a whole new man. I was eleven

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: or twelve, but I felt like a whole new man.

1221
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Speaker 1: But it made me feel like I could do things

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: I just could not do in the roller skates. I

1223
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: could take the turns unlike I could in the roller skates.

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Speaker 1: You could lean a whole lot more. You guys know,

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01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: we're all skaters around here, so you guys all know

1226
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: how that feels. I look at Texas A and M

1227
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: ten years ago and the vibe out there five years

1228
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: ago versus now, and it just feels like they've changed footwear.

1229
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: It just feels like they've thrown the blades on. Now

1230
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: here's the tradeoff. I saw some of the most horrific

1231
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: crashes that you could ever see in Lambert Skates Center

1232
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: because of people on roller blades those of us in

1233
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Speaker 1: the roller skates. He's taking the turns carefully, but no

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Speaker 1: one ever split their head open on the boards on

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Speaker 1: roller skates, at least not that I saw. Likewise, you

1236
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: may get the first half of Texas A and M

1237
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: South Carolina last year. When you throw on the roller blades,

1238
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: it could go really really poorly, But you know what

1239
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: else could happen? Jesse, the second half of that same game,

1240
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: and then you know what else could happen. I could

1241
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: be landing back to back number seven recruiting classes while

1242
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: also finishing top five in the transfer portal. I could

1243
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: have Texas right down the road, and I could really

1244
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: look down there and say, you may outspend the rest

1245
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: of the country, but you're not going to be running

1246
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: circles around us. You're not going to beat us over

1247
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: the head with your check book. And we can just

1248
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: this is not the Southwest Conference. We don't have to

1249
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: whisper this behind the dumpster. We could just say these

1250
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: things now it's legal, and so time will tell what

1251
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: all that means. I can save you some time in

1252
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Speaker 1: the comments because there are going to be two themes

1253
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: in there. The first one's going to be a bunch

1254
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: of people calling Texas A and M a cult. They

1255
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: don't care, they don't care, and these are my friends,

1256
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: so I don't care. And then the second thing that

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Speaker 1: I'll see a lot of is all those resources and

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Speaker 1: they still haven't won anything that's true, so there's validity

1259
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Speaker 1: to that. The difference is I believe there are going

1260
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: to be many of you. If I can speak for

1261
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: A and M fans here for a second, that is

1262
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Speaker 1: the theme of the entire segment. There are going to

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: be many of you who are in the cannot crowd,

1264
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Speaker 1: and I think this is one of those classic cannot

1265
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: versus have not situations. You believe Texas A and M

1266
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: cannot compete for a national championship. I and their fan

1267
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: base happen to agree that they simply have not yet,

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Speaker 1: but they fully believe that day is coming. That's kind

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Speaker 1: different reasons. But there's an endless supply of fuel because,

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Speaker 1: But also they know they've got the resources it takes.

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Speaker 1: This is not like some woebegone program that says, man,

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