WEBVTT - Perspective From Buffalo, Assistant Coaches Media and Your Questions 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:05.160 You were listening to the Miami Dolphins podcast Network. This 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.399 is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw to 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:16.239 a looking alta wine open cutstop, clerk call. Unbelievable. Just 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.200 flew by for a second time. Don't know where he 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.320 was going right away to hit of that man. I 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.160 want to help you soon up on his bay wattle, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.400 waddle to a shotgut back, that's throw, looking stuffs up, fires, 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:36.480 totop again, it's waddle. It's six touchdown passing. Drive Time 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.960 with Travis Wingfield begins. Now let me check your pulse 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:47.199 if what is up? Dol fans, and welcome to the 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.880 Drive Time podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins podcast Network, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.600 covering your team, your Miami Dolphins. How's it going? Everybody? 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.800 I am your host, Travis Wingfield and on today's show, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.720 potentially the last regular her Brother in season podcast. Here 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.280 in three we'll go ahead and take a look at 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.600 the perspective from Buffalo with Joe Marino of the Draft 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:13.080 Network and Locked on Bills. We'll go ahead and hear 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.360 from the assistant coaching staff and their Thursday media availabilities, 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.640 and we'll finish up with your mail bad questions via Twitter. 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:21.319 All of that and a heck of a lot more 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.080 from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:32.800 This is go ahead and get to my guest today 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.440 for the last time this season. Number three on the 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.200 year from Lockdown Bills, Joe Marino and joining me now 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.400 is one of my favorite recurring guests we have on 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.160 the Drift Time podcast. He covers the enemy for Locked 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.880 On Bills on the Locked On Sports Network in addition 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.760 to being one of the best draft scouts in the 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.840 entire business, the co founder of the Draft Network, Joe Marino, Joe, 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.240 welcome back in man. Hey, Travis, thanks for having me on. Hey. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.240 I look, I maybe cover the enemy, but we're all friends, right. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.920 I got some great friends here, uh, in the world 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:03.720 of Miami Dolphins. So it's gonna be on with you 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.560 and talk about this football game. I saw somebody tweeted 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.320 on Thursday morning before taping this podcast at Kyle and said, like, 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.799 how do you even talk to Joe during this week? 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.600 I have a Jets fan friend that I can't talk 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.200 to you for a week before the game, And I'm like, 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.400 Joe is good people, man. Plus he teaches us some 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.080 information on the opponents. So yeah, I'm in that same 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.840 realm with you. Man, we're like uh Sunday. Maybe even 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.360 not the most uh closest of friends, but I always 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.519 enjoyed these podcasts. And this would have been your third 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.800 appearance on the show this season. But the last time 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.679 the Dolphins and Bills met, I was actually in the 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.919 hospital for the birth of my son. So, um, you 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.120 know I have to ask this every time we do 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.200 a show together. What's the latest update on girl dad 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:45.560 life for you all up there? Oh? Man, it's phenomenal. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.679 She turns three next week, and man, she has so 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:53.320 much personality and she's so energetic, and she's so smart. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.760 I mean, my favorite thing in the world is being 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.959 heard Dad. So uh, dad life is great. She's great, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.960 and I hope the same is true for you. Coodn't 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.079 have said it better myself. And the personality parts of 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.639 the best Man like Christmas music. She was all about that. 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.919 She sings jingle bells still every time we get in 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.120 the car, Daddy, I want jingle bills. Hey, Um, you 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:11.799 get whatever you want when it comes to Daddy. So 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:13.919 she knows she has me wrapped around her finger, and 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.079 she takes advantage of it, but um, it's it's the 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.320 best man. Glad to hear it. And uh, I always 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.160 love tracking that because our daughter is so close in age. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.680 It's it's cool to reflect on that stuff with you. Um. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:24.440 But yeah, let's let's go ahead and start with this 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.959 this crossover podcast here, and we always start these with 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.760 questions about the quarterback position. And you know, we're all 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.000 well versed on Josh allen skills have We've seen him 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.359 a million times and he's played very well pretty much 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.720 all those times. But I continue to marvel at his 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.040 splits this year against the Blitz and how it's completely 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.600 flipped in terms of his success against the Blitz against 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.240 the other fifteen teams and then against the Dolphins in 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.040 those two games. I'm just curious on the whole what 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.240 have you noticed about Josh Allen when teams play coverage 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.320 this year versus bringing extra rushers on the Blitz. You 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.920 know what's interesting about Josh Allen is, for as good 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.080 of a player as he is, I think that's an 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.640 area of his game that has been an issue really 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.360 over the last two seasons. It's just a production against 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.320 the Blitz, and obviously that's a dangerous world to live 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.760 in at times for a defense knowing what Josh is 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.240 capable of both as a runner and a thrower, and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.560 certainly going back to he was one of the best 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.040 in the league in terms of facing the blitz. But 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.599 over the last two years, I feel like it's been 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.160 more of an issue offensively where the Bills kind of 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.640 get stuck on when to protect right, when to keep 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.479 some extra bodies in to protect, and when to throw 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.280 hot right and make those sight adjustments and really try 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.920 to replace the the blitz with the ball and and 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.080 make the defense pay for sending and committing some extra rushers. 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.000 And so I feel like over the last two years 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.640 it's been a little bit unsettled for this Bill's offense, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.800 and Josh has gotten stuck at times because I'm not 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.160 sure those answers have bene have been built in as 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.560 consistently as they need to. And the Dolphins certainly a 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.280 team that number two blitz raid in the a f C. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.159 We we know that about Josh Boy's gonna send UH 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.240 send pressure, and so I think that's gonna be a 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.960 big challenge for the Bills this week, especially given the 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:09.280 familiarity between the two teams and and that UH for 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.480 as much as the Bills may be familiar with Josh 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.880 Boyer and how he likes to blitz, you know, Josh 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.600 Bowyer is well familiar with the protection schemes of the 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:18.880 Buffalo Bills, and so I think that's a really good 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.560 um opening topic in something that um I'm curious about 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.360 this week and seeing how those how that storyline plays out, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.719 especially when you're talking about a Dolphins front that features 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:31.120 so many good pass rushers. Jalen Phillips obviously having a 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.400 breakout season and he he uh gave Spencer Brown at 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.680 right tackle all he can handle in that last match up. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.000 And of course in the inside, Siler and Christian Wilkins 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.000 are animals, and Melvin Ingram seems to play well every 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.680 time the Bills play against him, whatever team he's playing for, 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:49.720 of course Bradley Chub So there's a there's a lot 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.039 that this front can give you both from a blitz 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.479 perspective and then just those guys winning one on one, 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.719 So obviously a big storyline entering this game. It felt 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.320 like that last game was like watching you know, NBA 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.880 players playing pickup ball in terms of like, oh man, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.880 what a great move that was by Jalen Phillips. So 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.440 there goes Josh Allen making an even better player than 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.800 just back and forth all game long, so much fun 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.240 to watch. And speaking of fun, you know, getting on 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.200 social media can be fun or it can be the 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.760 opposite of that. And I saw a debate the other 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.560 day Joe on Bill's Twitter about the production of the 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.640 number two receiver, which has been Gabe Davis right for 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.320 the Bills. It's right so, and there was some consternation about, 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:28.800 you know, his value, and one of the common disagreements 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.520 I saw was people saying, look at what Waddles doing 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.920 in Miami, And I'm thinking, like, that's not really fair 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.760 because both Tyreek and Jalen are you know, ones on 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.480 like nine of the teams across the NFL. So my 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.800 question is explained to our fan base the traits that 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.040 makes this Bill's skill group so dangerous because it's more 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.840 than just Josh Allen Stefon Diggs. Yeah, I think the 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.920 Bills obviously Josh Allen Stefon Diggs, that's your bread and butter. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.680 But it's about a whole lot more than just that. 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.440 And you look at Davis is the number two receiver, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.200 maybe he have the production. Coming out of that Kansas 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.480 City playoff game where he had two hundred yards and 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.240 four touchdowns and everybody thought he was gonna have this 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.000 monster season. He had an okay season. Eight hundred yards, 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.760 seven touchdowns. That's good wide receiver to production. But you know, 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.960 maybe you wonder about his skill set and if it's 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.800 a complete enough player to be a do everything guy 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.480 opposite of Stefan days. He certainly provides value with his 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.120 size and his ball skills down the field, but obviously 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.400 not a guy that's gonna uncovered quickly or went after 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.200 the catch, and there's been some inconsistency with his hands 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.200 this year. But you know, Dawson Knox is also lover 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.000 the last two years at tight end really become uh 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.480 an important part of this this offense and what he 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.160 means for not only their ability to attack the middle 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.200 of the field, but his yards after catch skills. That 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.200 is something they like to tap into quite a bit, 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.240 getting him, you know, into the flats and asking him 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.000 to create his obviously big and athletic and then you know, 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.160 you look at the rest of this receiver corps and 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.200 it's it's some old faces that are back. Cole Beasley 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.400 John Brown, they're starting to get in the extended the 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.080 equation to go with Isaia McKinsey, who may not be 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.480 available this week with a hamstring injury, and so they'll 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.520 rely on some of those old new faces, if you will, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.720 and rookie and Colose Secure that looks like he has 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.679 a bright future as an up and coming inside outside player, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.920 but the market share hasn't really been there. But also 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.000 the Bills have gotten the running backs going a little 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.920 bit in the passing game with James Cook and his 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.440 emergence here later in the season certainly feels like the 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.280 game slowing down for him a bit and he's becoming 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.680 more comfortable in his role. And of course Stevan Singletary, 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.240 who has been really consistent over the last four years 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.800 in terms of his ability to catch football and run it. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.079 So there's a lot of weapons that the Bills have, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.160 and uh, it's interesting on a weekly basis kind of 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.880 who the priorities are for who they're gonna throw the 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.840 football too, because they do have a lot of options. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.960 And certainly when you look at this game against Miami, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.559 um I feel like the Bills are gonna want to 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.959 make it a space game as much as possible offensively 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.400 and really put you know, some empty packages on the 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.000 field and space that Dolphins defense out and really kind 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.040 of put them in some conflict with if they're gonna 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.360 send pressure and kind of having to deal with the 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.960 space behind it. And we obviously know about the injuries 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:06.439 in the back seven four Miami all season long, so 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.880 that could be an interesting storyline here that the Bills 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.199 could try to take advantage of this weekend. Yeah, it 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.240 makes perfect sense. I mean that the depth of that 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.439 position has been tested because of the injuries, and you 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.839 can you know, certainly play into that by like you mentioned, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.760 going empty and spreading things out. So I'll be curious 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.000 see how that looks. And uh, you know, talk about 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.280 pressure and blitzing and all that stuff that falls ultimately 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.439 on the quarterback and offensive line. And I wanted to 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.760 ask you about the Bills offensive line player this year 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.560 because I mentioned on my preview podcast at Miami has 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.120 to find a way to not just get pressure on 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.880 Alan but hem him into the pocket because he makes 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.720 so many dang plays when he escapes outside of the pocket. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.320 How do you think teams have accomplished that this year? 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.360 What have they done to keep him into the pocket 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.920 and and try to force him to win from that position. Well, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.559 I think it's been a struggle for a lot of 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:52.760 teams to be honest with you, and Josh tends to 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.400 even if you have your best intentions of kind of 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.800 cage rushing and containing him, Josh makes that one guy 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.160 miss and all of a sudden, your best intentions are 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.640 all for not right, and Josh is rolling to his 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.280 right and making plays with his legs in his arm, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.520 and so I think what you have to do is 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.600 the front is you just have to be extremely disciplined, 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.199 not just with your rush and to be able to 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.760 stay in your lane, but when you're in that position 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.200 to tackle Josh Allen, you have to be under control 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.000 and you have to be mindful of you know, he's 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.079 a big dude with a stiff arm right and just 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.719 will really dare anybody to come after him. Right. I 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.520 think we've all seen that over his career, and um, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:32.439 you know, I think it's just a lot of discipline 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.040 that you're going to be required to play with, not 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.160 just from a a stay in your lane which limits 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.480 your creativity as a pass rusher, but hey, when you 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.520 have that chance, you have to be balanced and under 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.199 control to have an opportunity to get down a really 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.520 good quarterback. It's yeah, all remember the first year I 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.560 covered a game here from the like from the press box, 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.520 I asked Bobby McCain about a sack he had on 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.719 Josh Allen about bringing him down. It's like, man our 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.000 slot corner, Little Bobby McCain, a five ft ten bring 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.679 him to the ground. That was one of the most 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.440 amazing things I ever saw in a foot ball field. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.599 But he seems to shake off, you know, two and 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.280 sixty pounds like it's no big deal. So definitely Alan 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.199 got him last week. That was a really good tackle 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.800 and that I was like, wow, I can't believe you 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.080 got him down. So there's it happens. But you better, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.319 you better have your angle, you better be balanced, you 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.199 better get him loon. That was a hell of a 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:19.439 play from Javon kind of playing that like you know, 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.559 he almost like buzzed the crosser then turn into a 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.240 spy and closed down on him, And I thought there 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:24.920 was I thought we had no chance once he broke 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.800 the pocket there because we've seen him happened so many times. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.920 But you know, the snowman is probably the best bet 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.360 to get him to the ground in space like that 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.559 he did at that time. Now, speaking of defense on 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.319 the other side of the ball for Buffalo, you know, 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.319 we saw them without von Miller. That first game was 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.560 a bit of an anomaly from the Dolphin standpoint, from 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.240 a volume standpoint, because it's hard to rack up numbers 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.120 when you only run thirty seven plays in a game. 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.600 But the December game was highly efficient, explosive plays, long 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.800 touchdown to Tyreek and waddle. What have the Bills done 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.360 since that game, since Week fifteen to disrupt the timing 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.959 of opposing offenses with their past rush, a blitzing playing, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.800 you know, four man rush, How have they done and 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.839 how effective hasn't been? Well? I think that's something that 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.760 I have a question about with this Bill's team entering 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:09.440 the postseason um where I think if you go back 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.240 to the last two years where their season was ended 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:17.280 by Kansas City, you remember not being good enough when 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.280 it comes to rushing the passer and really getting the 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.800 quarterback down. And you went out and you signed von 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.360 Miller to be your closer, and for the time that 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:26.719 he was healthy this year, that's exactly what he was. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.920 Key clutch sacks when you had to have him well, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.319 and he's not available this for this Bill's team on 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.000 you know, the rest of the season, and so they've 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.400 had to kind of adapt to it and and really 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.800 just lean into the talent that they have. Right, they 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.520 don't have von Miller, but they still have several first 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.880 round picks on the edge, and Greg Rousseau and Shack 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.199 Lawson and a couple of recent second round picks and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.640 uh A j f and S and Carlos Basham that 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.000 you know all of the above, right, It's not just 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.520 uh any one guy that can come in and replace 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.400 what von Miller gave you. You hope it's an all 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.840 of the above approach, especially with your interior guys as 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.319 like in that Oliver and at de Ai Kwon Jones 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.679 and Jordan Phillips and a Tim Settle. So I think 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:09.280 you you just try to find strengthen in being eight deep, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:12.040 that you feel like all these guys have a chance 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.160 to rush the passer and um hopefully on any given 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:17.840 play you have one or two guys that are able 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.959 to deliver. And you know the Bills have been more willing. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.400 I think to blitz Matt Mulano, I think we've seen 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.000 that quite a bit here down the stretch, mug him, 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:26.880 mug him up in the A gaps and send him 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.000 at That's happened a little bit more uh recently than 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.280 than I can remember, So I think that's kind of 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.000 the plan here for Buffalo to get after the quarterback. 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.439 And there's been times here late in the season where 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.239 I felt like the pass rush didn't show up with consistency, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.600 especially against the uh, the Patriots in their most recent game. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.840 And obviously the Patriots kind of tapped into some play 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.400 action in ways that we hadn't seen them uh this season, 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.400 and that got the Bills a few times. And you know, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.679 you know, the Dolphins are really good at kind of 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.560 having that run action tag to their their passing play, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.400 so that will certainly be a benefit to them and 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.040 kind of slowing up the the Bill's pass rush. But 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.000 it's definitely in all of the above approach. Yeah, you 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.160 mentioned the Patriots, a divisional opponent, you know, a team 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:06.920 you know so well. For the Patriots to kind of 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.520 be able to adapt in a game like that speaks 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.240 to their knowledge, I think of the Bills. And maybe 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.240 Miami has some of that as well. And you go 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.240 back to you know, talking about the running game and 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.319 eight yards in the ground from Miami last time around 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.280 thirty two snaps with two bad personnel against that you know, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.720 permanent nickel package they run where it's like at the time, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.720 I'm just curious, what does allow Buffalo to remain in 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.320 that nickel defense and yet still ranked fourth in the 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.360 NFL against the rush this year. It's it's Tremaine Evans 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.920 and Matt Mulano and and really Taran Johnson, Right, it's 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:42.080 those guys as a on a base nickel defense. I mean, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.280 they have so much responsibility not just for their run fits, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.440 but also with the real estate that they're responsible for, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.680 responsible for in pass coverage. Right, those guys are smart, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.680 instinctive players with range, and I think that allows the 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.280 Bills to live in this world where they're pretty much 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.920 always in nickel. They don't go three linebackers for any 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.320 and um, that's just who they've been and it's been 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.000 really effective. And I think it really it's really those 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.040 three guys and how they can fit the run and 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.320 play in space and coverage. But you know a big 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.200 task of them is in this style of defense that 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.920 is a penetration style up the field, defense up front 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.280 is they have to make those defensive linemen right right 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.920 because they're attacking, they're playing downhill and it's just a 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.920 lot of their plates and they continue to answer the call. 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.920 And um, you know, those are those are core players 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.480 this defense, and I think that's the reason why they're 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.880 able to live in that nickel defense. And sometimes you know, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.160 they there's a play here and there where they can 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.840 give up a big run. You've seen that obviously the 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.320 big what a Mostard had a sixty yard or something 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.520 against the Bills. That's that's gonna happen from time to 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.600 time when you live in that world. But you know, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.560 for the most part, they tighten the screws and and 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.960 really handle a lot on their plate. It's a fun 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.040 matchup man. Rob Hunt had a big game last time. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.960 Connor Williams as well, creating some of those lanes inside. 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.680 I'm curious see how it happens this time because I 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.520 think the Dolphins to win the game will have to 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.960 run the ball successfully. But you know, as far as 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.000 putting the ball up in the air on the back end, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.360 you know, I think going into this season, maybe you 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.000 can agree or disagree that cornerback was probably the one 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.280 area that Bills fans maybe had the most questions about 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.040 in terms of who's getting the bulk of the snaps. 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:16.080 With the entire regular season now in the rear view mirror, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.040 how would you assess that position and their prospects in 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.960 this game for slowing down Tyreek Jalen and the Dolphins receivers, Well, okay, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.640 those are two very different questions, Travis, because nobody's slowing 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.520 down Wattle and Hill, right, So that's that's you know, 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.720 I remember for years I get asked the question, I'm 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.480 chiefs podcasters and stuff. It's like, how how are the 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.480 Bills gonna stop Travis Kelsey. They're not going to write 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.840 it's it's not gonna happen. You try to, You try 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:43.920 to limit and contain it as best she can. Right, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.560 But even even in that last game that Will Hill 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.200 and Waddle they both made their big explosive touchdowns, and 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:51.760 you know, I think you have to just live in 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.720 a world where that's gonna happen, and so you just 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.640 try to try to contain it as best she can. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:59.560 But I think as far as the cornerback depth and 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.240 and the Dolphins as an opponent, you're nervous about playing 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.840 those receivers, but fortunately don't have to play them every 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.199 single week. The Bill has got to deal with them 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:10.240 twice a year. But um, I think for the most part, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.000 the Bill's corner position has really um come along in 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.359 ways that we didn't expect. Obviously a concern entering the 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.680 year with Levi Wallace departing and trade Avious White coming 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.440 off of an a c L tear, but Tradevious White 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.359 is now healthy. He's been an every down player really 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.480 since the game after Thanksgiving, so he stabilized and come 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.600 in and bend the top corner. And then opposite of him, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.480 they've actually rotated Kyer Elam, the first round pick who's 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.840 played well at times and you certainly had his rookie 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.760 moments as well, but Dame Jackson who's been kind of 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.800 the fill in player for trine Avious White, who's kind 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.480 of stabilized and earned the opportunity to stay on the 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.600 field even with Trey White's return. Meanwhile, they also have 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.960 Christian Benford, who's the sixth round rookie out of Villa Nova, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.840 who started the first few games of the season in 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.320 a rotation with uh Kyrie Elm while Dane Jackson was 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.960 a CB one waltradabus White was out, So through all 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.359 these injuries, there's been a lot of experience gained and 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.240 put the Bills in a situation where they feel like 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.399 they have four guys that they're willing to play on 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.680 the outside at corner and it's a really good position 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.479 to be. But at the end of the day, nobody's 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.760 running stride for stride with waddling Hills. So you've got 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.280 a lot to worry about with those two really dynamic 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.680 players here. You talk about the playmakers. I mean, we 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.520