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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 3: Straight Fire Fire? It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 3: July twenty fifth. I know everybody's really locked in for

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Speaker 3: the Olympics, which kick off this weekend in Powi and Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Obviously your calendar is circled USA Serbia in Hoops should

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Speaker 3: be a good one, I thought before we dove into sports,

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Speaker 3: and there's decent hoops and NFL stuff. Just requick recap

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Speaker 3: a quick incident I had out here in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: not a big one. I usually I would characterize myself

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Speaker 3: as a great driver. I know people would be like,

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Speaker 3: oh so, Ericant, I think I'm a great driver. No

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Speaker 3: moving violations from cops in the eight years I've been

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Speaker 3: which I'll tell you about it shortly. But I'm driving

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Speaker 3: to work this week and I do this pretty much

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Speaker 3: the same route, back roads instead of the highway, and

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Speaker 3: there is one little speed trap area and I'm always

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Speaker 3: ready for it. I always slow down, but you can

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Speaker 3: see it coming a mile away, so I'm in the

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Speaker 3: I guess I might have been the pace leader, which

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Speaker 3: you're not supposed to be. You're supposed to be like

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Speaker 3: the second or third car. And I see this motorcycle

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Speaker 3: come down into the stop sign which is in the

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Speaker 3: traffic area, and I'm like, Okay, that's a motorcycle. It's

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Speaker 3: a guy on a motorcycle. It's not a cop. And

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Speaker 3: then as I get closer, I realize it is a cop,

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Speaker 3: and I, you know, tap the brakes. I don't. I

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Speaker 3: don't need to mash him up. I wasn't going that fast.

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Speaker 3: And the second I passed the cop, he comes out

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Speaker 3: like instantly turns on the lights. I'm like, ah, damn

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Speaker 3: what and I looked down my accelert. I wasn't going

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Speaker 3: that fast anyway. So I pull over. And I have

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Speaker 3: talked to enough law enforcement people, and I have enough

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Speaker 3: friends who have people in law enforcement or relatives, and

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Speaker 3: they've told me this is what you do if you

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Speaker 3: get pulled over. And it's not fail safe, but this

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Speaker 3: is what you should do. First and foremost, roll down

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Speaker 3: all your windows so they don't have to like look

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Speaker 3: two is turn off the car and put the key

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Speaker 3: on the dashboard right above the steering wheel so they

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Speaker 3: know when they come up. Oh, this guy knows the drill.

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Speaker 3: There's no funny business here. He's got the windows down,

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Speaker 3: he's got the car off, he's got the key on

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Speaker 3: the dash hands on the wheel, Like this is the

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Speaker 3: basic number one thing that they see when you roll up,

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Speaker 3: as opposed to you being frustrated or maybe dodgy, or

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Speaker 3: you don't put your window fully down. Hey man, I

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Speaker 3: got nothing to hide.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 3: So he tells me, you know you were speeding, and

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Speaker 3: I got you doing fifty six in a forty and

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Speaker 3: the speed limit dips to thirty five here and I

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Speaker 3: way but I the better cooler heads prevail. I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh man, yeah, I switched lanes to avoid the dip

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Speaker 3: It was dumb. I haven't been I haven't been a

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Speaker 3: speeding ticket since I moved here to LA. He goes

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Speaker 3: license and registration. I go, Can I go in my

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Speaker 3: bag and get my wallet because it was my workbag.

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Speaker 3: Another another thing like can I go in the glove

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Speaker 3: you're not making any sudden movements. It. Cops are weird now,

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Speaker 3: guys come on some of them are. And he comes

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Speaker 3: your license, which was stunning to me. I had no idea.

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Speaker 3: He goes, your insurance will go up if I give

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Speaker 3: you a ticket here, it will go up even more.

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Speaker 3: You'll be in You'll have to like. It won't be good.

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Speaker 3: And when I heard if I give you the ticket,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, maybe I'm dodging it. And indeed

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Speaker 3: Go online to this website to do the online traffic course.

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Speaker 3: You'll get the red light ticket erase that I'm not

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Speaker 3: And you guys don't know the burden. Well maybe you

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Speaker 3: do of when you get pulled over, you're looking at

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Speaker 3: that and like I'm sure you know people in law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: I am just curious. Have you heard the key on

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Speaker 4: I've heard the windows down, never the key on the

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Speaker 4: dashboard part. But it's funny that you bring up that

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Speaker 4: story because the last time that I was pulled over

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Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, i'll drive out to where

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Speaker 4: I get pulled over and the guy's like, hey, I

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Speaker 4: got you speeding, and this was on the freeway. So

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Speaker 4: he tells you how fast I'm going from getting caught

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Speaker 4: speeding on the freeway, and I say, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: cause I wasn't gonna play dumb about it. Is like

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Speaker 4: can he you know where were you headed? You know

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Speaker 4: that was askuly that question. I'm like, look, man, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be in serious trouble with her, probably

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Speaker 4: even worse than what you are with what I am

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Speaker 4: with you. He thought that was funny.

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Speaker 2: He gave me a warning, let me go nice.

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Speaker 4: So if you kind of you know, can be forthright sometimes,

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Speaker 4: and like you said, if you can show like hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hide anything. I know I did

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Speaker 4: what was wrong, you'd be surprised how Leny and some

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Speaker 3: And I will be honest, Rob, since that moment, I

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Speaker 3: have been way slower on driving. There's no rush, no

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Speaker 3: usually am because I'm like you, I leave late. But anyways,

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Speaker 3: enough about traffic citations or potential ones. You know, obviously,

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Speaker 3: the NFL training camp's open, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: But we did a lot of NFL yesterday with Sean King.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff if you missed it. But I want to

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Speaker 3: like listen. You guys know, I was a Syracuse Orange

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Speaker 3: for two seasons, I think it was in Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: this podcast is basically everything that's wrong with modern basketball. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he came out and he was talking about the face

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Speaker 3: he basically said that g sent Tatum his aura doesn't

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Speaker 3: kind of unquantifiable. You just know it when you see it.

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Speaker 3: JT does not have the it factor of Anthony Edwards,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't it doesn't seem like the biggest dig ever.

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Speaker 3: But he basically said that he doesn't see Tatum being

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Speaker 3: the next big thing because he doesn't have exuberant confidence

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Speaker 3: like Anthony Edwards does in interviews, dunking on people, blah

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Speaker 3: is because of his aura. If JT had that aura,

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Speaker 3: it'd be over And folks, I'm just telling you this

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Speaker 3: dunking on people and talking trash. There's value in that.

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Speaker 3: But you know who doesn't have an aura? NICOLEA Jokich,

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Speaker 3: what's his brand? Like really freaking good at basketball, fundamentally sound.

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Speaker 3: What's Yannis's aura? I mean, the guy just basically is

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Speaker 3: an MVP of front Runner. Like, what's his aura? They

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Speaker 3: dunking on I mean, sure he does that, but that's

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Speaker 3: not what he's known for. He's known for tireless work

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Speaker 3: he's very difficult to contain. What's one Binura's one bin

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Speaker 3: Yama's aura. You notice I'm picking a lot of European

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Speaker 3: gotta have swag, you gotta have that drip, you gotta

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Speaker 3: have the crossover. It's like, that's not what's to get

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Speaker 3: Jason Tatum's Welcome to the NBA was a dunk on

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Speaker 3: if it was Game seven, but it was late in

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Speaker 3: was a thunderous dunk. You can look it up on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Mike Breen had the call. Lebron ended up winning the series,

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Speaker 3: but that was like, oh, this guy, Jason Tatum is nice, nice,

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Speaker 3: and now he's winning First Team All NBA and he's

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Speaker 3: one of the best players in the league. I say

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Speaker 3: the elite players in the league. And the idea that

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Speaker 3: he wins finals MVPs, do you think he cares about

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Speaker 3: an aura? I mean, do you think Steph Curry had

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Speaker 3: an or around him? A swag? Now he can shoot

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Speaker 3: from anyone on the court. It's not really an aura.

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Speaker 3: That's a skill, but Curry's are below the room guy.

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Speaker 3: Guys who have auras are like Russell Westbrook, James Harden.

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Speaker 3: What have they ever won? I don't know. Maybe I'm

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Speaker 3: being too harsh on Mellow and I'm a big time

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Speaker 3: Tatum defender, but it just feels odd to me that

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be bashing Jason Tatum. He can't be the

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Speaker 3: face of the league because he's got no swag. Like, uh, okay,

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Speaker 3: well you know what, what's face of the league? Getting

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Speaker 3: me a couple more endorsements. I've already got a massive deal.

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Speaker 3: I want titles. I want to be playing in June

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Speaker 3: every year. I don't want Aura Crowns. I don't know, Rob.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm being a little negative Nancy here, but I

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Speaker 3: just it just feels like everything that's wrong with US

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Speaker 4: No, I think you're spot on, And this is a

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Speaker 4: And that's not to disparage Anthony Edwards. Is just to

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Speaker 2: But if you compare him.

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Speaker 4: To you know, even like a Lebron James, if you

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Speaker 4: Do you need him to yell more when he dunks

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Speaker 2: I don't get that.

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Speaker 3: It is weird that the Tatum dislike we did go

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Speaker 3: But they're really different players. Edwards is a two, Edwards

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Speaker 3: Maybe he could play four in some small ball lineups.

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Speaker 3: So it's not really an apples to apples. But you

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Speaker 4: So Wade later on in the conversation kind of brought

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Speaker 2: He's very brash about it.

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Speaker 4: He's telling you what he's gonna do, and if he

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Speaker 4: And so one thing that d Wade said was if

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Speaker 3: I mean the face of the league. Discussion is fun.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know, if you really think about it,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, d Wade.

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Speaker 4: was always a great regular season team. Now they kept

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Speaker 4: flaming out of the playoffs, but he was getting them

429
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Speaker 4: near the top of the Eastern Conference every year. And

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Speaker 4: towards the end of that decade is when Kobe had

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Speaker 4: gotten pow and had this resurgence with his career later on,

432
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: and everybody was building towards Kobe versus Lebron, the previous

433
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Speaker 4: generations guy and the next guy, and we're finally going

434
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 4: to see them clash the same way we saw Magic

435
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Speaker 4: and Jordan in ninety one, even if that was underwhom

436
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 4: because injury, and we kept waiting for that to happen,

437
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 4: waiting for it to happen, and it never happened because

438
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 4: the Big Three Celtics ruined it, Dwight Howard ruined it,

439
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: and then eventually Kobe kept getting hurt and then that

440
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Speaker 4: was the end of.

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Speaker 3: That man that I it's like, I'm trying to think,

442
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Speaker 3: is there a finals matchup now that would be like

443
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 3: the Lebron Kobe where we just are begging to get it.

444
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: We've seen Lebron kd We've seen Lebron Curry Yokich. There's

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Speaker 3: really no he has no peer at Center. I don't know.

446
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the state of the NBA. We're just not

447
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Speaker 3: right quite there. We're in like a transitional phase and

448
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: now maybe the next three years are going to be awkward.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't even I mean, Anthony Edwards

450
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Speaker 3: versus I don't know Tatum for swag bragging. It's difficult.

451
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think a lot of it has to

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Speaker 3: do with and I'm going off off the reservation here,

453
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: but the whole Zion injury, Ja Morant getting his life

454
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Speaker 3: in miserable shape. Those two guys were supposed to be

455
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Speaker 3: the big next Americans, and I don't even know where

456
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: Zion is with the porn star strippers stuff. It's been quiet,

457
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: that's for sure, and John Morant also quiet, Like I

458
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: don't know, is there a world where they can bounce back.

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Speaker 4: Rob like in the public consciousness? Absolutely, because their style

460
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: of play is so appealing, Like as you started this

461
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: whole conversation saying that the Carmelo Anthony headline about Jason

462
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Speaker 4: Tatum is indicative of everything that's wrong with the way

463
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: we consume basketball these days and the poster boys of

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Speaker 4: that line of thinking, and you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: years ago, maybe not so much now because they've been

466
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Speaker 4: kind of out of the limelight where Zion and Jaw

467
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 4: like Zion was a specimen never want anything. You know,

468
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 4: was perpetually underwhelming year to year, but if you just

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00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: watched him play, you're like, God, this is incredible to

470
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Speaker 4: see a guy that big, move like that and jump

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Speaker 4: that highs.

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Speaker 2: And then John Morant was the next in line.

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Speaker 4: From the d Way d Rose tree of this dude's

474
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Speaker 4: gonna throw his body into anything, and nine times out

475
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: of ten is gonna end with a dunk or it's

476
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Speaker 4: gonna end with him hitting the floor. And that's fun

477
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Speaker 4: to watch, but it's not sustainable for winning championships.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the young kids are gonna love it.

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00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 4: But if you're like a legitimate hoopad, you're probably like,

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Speaker 4: this is cool to watch, but I'm still gonna bet

481
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Speaker 4: on you know, six Saint Luka Doncics who can't jump

482
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Speaker 4: over a paper clip, probably beating them, and Jokic probably

483
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Speaker 4: beating him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a weird conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'll remind you of two of those guys who hit

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Speaker 3: the floor all the time, Russell Westbrook and Derreck Rosse.

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Speaker 3: You could tross to Alan Iverson in there. None of

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Speaker 3: them won a title, and all of their well ever

489
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Speaker 3: since career went downhill sharply. Russell Westbrook's still playing, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's winning a title with Denver this year.

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Speaker 3: And the other guy who was the other guy.

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Speaker 2: Just mentioned Derek Rose.

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Speaker 3: We Derek Rosse. He obviously injuries caught up with him.

494
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Speaker 3: When you're flying around like that, that's what's gonna happ then,

495
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: and Jah Morant would be better served developing a three

496
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Speaker 3: point shot. He shot twenty seven percent on threes last year,

497
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Speaker 3: thirty percent third year prior. His career high is thirty

498
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Speaker 3: four percent. If he can bump that up to thirty seven,

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Speaker 3: thirty seven, thirty eight percent. We're talking about a guy

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Speaker 3: who I think gets back in the MVP discussion, like

501
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Speaker 3: the league is good when ja Morant's locked in. I

502
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Speaker 3: just don't know if he's done too much damage. I mean,

503
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Speaker 3: he's twenty four years old. He could certainly turn things

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Speaker 3: back around. But I don't know, Rob. I think does

505
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Speaker 3: it go hand in hand drip swag or if you

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Speaker 3: have that, you probably have an edge to you and

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Speaker 3: it maybe it is what makes you such a good player.

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Speaker 3: If all of a sudden, Jahn Morant becomes a choir boy,

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Speaker 3: is he going to be the same player?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Do his guys in Memphis want him to be yelling

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Speaker 3: at people and barking and talking trash and pointing and

513
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Speaker 3: giving off that like, don't mess around with me. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'll have my group pointed. I don't know. It'll be

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Speaker 3: interesting to see, but I don't want to write off

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Speaker 3: anybody like Jahn Moran or Zion Williamson. If you had

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Speaker 3: to guess right now, Rob twenty twenty eight Olympic team.

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00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: Remember Kd's falling out, AD's falling out Lebron's falling out,

519
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: Curry's fallen out. I'll say Joel embiid. So at least

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Speaker 3: five spots are open.

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Speaker 2: Holiday's probably gone.

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Speaker 3: Holiday probably gone that six. I mean, John Moran's gonna

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Speaker 3: be in the discussion for sure. Now I don't know

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Speaker 3: if his style works in the Olympics. I just don't.

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Speaker 3: He can't really shoot, so the sag off of him

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Speaker 3: and his clogged the lane, and I don't know how

527
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Speaker 3: effective you'll be, But I think Zion for sure is

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Speaker 3: a guy that they would love on the Olympic. Like

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Speaker 3: you would need a face of the Olympics team, right

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Speaker 3: You need some headliner, whether it's Kobe and eight or

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant in the last Olympics, whether it's Lebron right now,

532
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Speaker 3: you need that big name, big face, if you will.

533
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: And I guess it could be and Edwards or Tatum

534
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Speaker 3: at the next one. And we're getting ahead of ourselves

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Speaker 3: as these Olympics haven't even happened. But I just like

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Speaker 3: looking ahead and spitball. I mean, it could be Chet

537
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Speaker 3: Holmgren for all we know. You know, he's he's got swag.

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Speaker 3: He's in all these commercials dressed up kind of goofy

539
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: and silly. I don't know Evan Mobley, who knows anybody's

540
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: in play, But overall, I just I didn't love the

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Speaker 3: vibe from Carmelo Anthony Man. I don't know, It's just

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Speaker 3: I want my players fundamentally sound and winning, not surrounded

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Speaker 3: by aura and jaw jacking and dunking on people.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would agree with you, And it's funny

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Speaker 4: that you know I say that because you know, Kobe

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Speaker 4: Bryant was one of those guys who kind of blended

547
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Speaker 4: the two because he started off with the AFRO and

548
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: he was flying through the air dunking on people. And

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Speaker 4: he had the rap songs, not even the ones that

550
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: you heard with Tyra Banks talking about the ones like

551
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: in the Sprite commercial where he's rapping with Tim Duncan. Like,

552
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 4: Kobe had that aura that you thok of about, but

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00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: what he also had was extremely high fundamental basketball, great footwork,

554
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: you know, a post game, a mid range game, he

555
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: could shoot three, he could do everything. He defended an

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00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 4: high level and so it's it's interesting that we have

557
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 4: a conversation now with basketball where it's like, why can't

558
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: you have both or if you don't have that aura,

559
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 4: that that that edge to this your style of play,

560
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 4: that suddenly you're lesser than Even though all of the

561
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: best players in the league right now, I would say

562
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: none of them would have what we would call aura, right,

563
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 4: like what's yo, kitchen. Luca's aura is that he complains

564
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, Like I, well, you.

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Speaker 1: Justly said Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 3: I totally forgot about him, like a silent superstar. His

567
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: aura was a bank shot, a twelve foot bank shot, right,

568
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Speaker 3: and he's one of the greatest bigs of all time.

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Speaker 3: I guess we can wrap up and we'll do NFL tomorrow.

570
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: There's NFL every day. It's nothing super urgent.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 3: I guess we can wrap up with you know, I

576
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Speaker 3: don't get wistful about inside the NBA, like all these

577
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: weirdos on social media, I don't. I mean, the show's entertaining,

578
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Speaker 3: but to me, I just I don't feel like I

579
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Speaker 3: really learn anything from it. I don't. I'm not getting

580
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: smarter watching those guys chop it up. But it sounds

581
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: like the NBA is saying thanks, but no thanks, Warner Brothers.

582
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 3: We know you want to be in the rights package.

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00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: They made like a Hail Mary play earlier this week,

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00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: but it sounds like they're gonna do go to Amazon

585
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 3: and all these NBA fans are just so butt hurt.

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Speaker 1: What about inside the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Don't I don't know, Rob, Like, yeah, after a playoff game,

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00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: that's crazy. Are you excited for it? Sure, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: But I just feel like the idea of that shoulder programming, pregame, postgame,

590
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: much of that discussion is happening online now anyway, right,

591
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: and the memes are flying, and it's like, I get it,

592
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: And people are gonna be nostalgic for that show the

593
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: same way they are for Michael Jordan and you know,

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Speaker 3: the alleged good old days. I don't know, I can't

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Speaker 3: get that upset about it, but I'm sure I'm sure

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Speaker 3: some of our listeners are going to be very tore up.

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Speaker 4: Oh I'm positive several of our listener are gonna be

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Speaker 4: tore up. You know, because I'm one of those people

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Speaker 4: who reads the comments when they tell us not to

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Speaker 4: read them.

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Speaker 2: I always read them. I don't read them, And yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Almost positive there's gonna be a large segment that's gonna

603
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Speaker 4: be really up in arms about it getting counseled. But

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, Like inside the NBA for an entertainment

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Speaker 4: factor is great. You know, I'm entertained when I watch it,

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Speaker 4: But they have an entire bit built around the fact

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Speaker 4: that Shaq and Charles do not watch these games, that

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Speaker 4: they do not know the players in the league, that

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Speaker 4: Shaq or Jumy Chuck will fall asleep during games because

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Speaker 4: he's bored. Like that's funny, and I'll laugh at it

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00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: and I'll like it on Instagram, but I'm not like

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00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: making it appointment viewing after a tough.

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Speaker 2: Game to see what you guys have to say about it.

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Speaker 4: Like, I know that their Hall of famers and they

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00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: have a lot of championships under their belt between everyone

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00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: on that set, and they've forgotten more basketball than I'll

617
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 4: ever know, and I understand that, but that kind of

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00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: knowledge doesn't get conveyed on that show like they're they're

619
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Speaker 4: there to entertain and to make us laugh, and that's fine,

620
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Speaker 4: But if your goal is to educate the basketball world,

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Speaker 4: then that's not the show to go to. And that's

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00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: one thing that the NFL does much better than the

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Speaker 4: NBA is the guys who are on the NFL shows

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Speaker 4: on Fox and ESPN and NBC. They make a point

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Speaker 4: to tell you try to number one ex's and owes

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00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: you a little bit more than what they do on

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Speaker 4: TNT and number two, they seem like they genuinely enjoy

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Speaker 4: the product. Even the old school guys who say, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a little bit tougher back then, they're not like

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Speaker 4: trashing what they're seeing now. The way that the NBA

631
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: is covered, especially on TNT, it's like you're like, well,

632
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: why should you bother to watch it? Like these guys

633
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 4: are flopping everywhere the style. All they do is shoot

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00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: a lot of threes. Back in my day, we did this,

635
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: this and that, And it's like, if you don't care

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00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: about the product, then why should I care about it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess ultimately we'll miss them. They

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00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: were a cultural touchstone, if you will. Everybody knew after

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00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 3: the games you could tune in there. And now it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, Amazon will have to create one. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I should fire up a resume just in case.

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Speaker 3: They're a you don't take on none and former NBA

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Speaker 3: players to discuss the league.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. All right, that's it for today. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you tomorrow.