1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:08,388 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:27,668 Speaker 2: Good morning, Yeah, it's a good morning to talk about football. 4 00:00:27,708 --> 00:00:30,428 Speaker 2: We are live in New York City. It's Tuesday, May second. 5 00:00:30,548 --> 00:00:33,348 Speaker 2: I'm Jamie Rdall. Of course, Kyle Brant in his assigned seat, 6 00:00:33,428 --> 00:00:35,988 Speaker 2: Jason mccordy as well to my left, as is Mike 7 00:00:36,028 --> 00:00:38,628 Speaker 2: Carfolo all week long. In for one Peter Schrager, who 8 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:41,228 Speaker 2: was on the absolute grind on the NFL Draft all 9 00:00:41,268 --> 00:00:42,988 Speaker 2: last week. We are now in the aftermath of it. 10 00:00:43,228 --> 00:00:46,788 Speaker 2: Schrager is recuperating. I am sure, so we missed Peter Schreger, 11 00:00:46,828 --> 00:00:49,908 Speaker 2: but Garifolo is going to be in for the week 12 00:00:50,068 --> 00:00:52,428 Speaker 2: and providing a nice little break in terms of your 13 00:00:52,468 --> 00:00:52,868 Speaker 2: off season. 14 00:00:52,908 --> 00:00:53,028 Speaker 1: Two. 15 00:00:53,028 --> 00:00:54,548 Speaker 3: I'm sure this is just what you were looking for 16 00:00:54,668 --> 00:00:54,988 Speaker 3: to do this. 17 00:00:55,348 --> 00:00:56,108 Speaker 4: No, it's all right. 18 00:00:56,388 --> 00:00:58,228 Speaker 5: Like I said, we're kind of in that dead zone here, 19 00:00:58,268 --> 00:01:01,548 Speaker 5: so anything more to add to the plate to get 20 00:01:01,628 --> 00:01:04,148 Speaker 5: us to September faster, yep, I'm all for it. 21 00:01:04,668 --> 00:01:07,388 Speaker 2: Yeah, get us one hundred and something plus days right, 22 00:01:07,428 --> 00:01:09,268 Speaker 2: and you are just bringing the spring colors this week. 23 00:01:09,308 --> 00:01:10,268 Speaker 3: Appreciate your energy. 24 00:01:10,348 --> 00:01:10,708 Speaker 4: Thank you. 25 00:01:10,748 --> 00:01:13,428 Speaker 1: This is my split pe chic or it's the the 26 00:01:13,828 --> 00:01:16,548 Speaker 1: Kelly Green for the Eagles, or it's the color of money, 27 00:01:16,628 --> 00:01:18,228 Speaker 1: which the Packers aren't sure they're going to give to 28 00:01:18,308 --> 00:01:20,988 Speaker 1: Jordan Love yet, right Blocky. 29 00:01:21,988 --> 00:01:24,628 Speaker 2: Heavy television if nobody else does. Three of the four 30 00:01:24,748 --> 00:01:27,708 Speaker 2: twenty twenty first round quarterbacks have had their fifth year. 31 00:01:27,548 --> 00:01:28,428 Speaker 3: Options picked up. 32 00:01:28,508 --> 00:01:31,428 Speaker 2: As of now, Packer's quarterback Jordan Love is not one 33 00:01:31,468 --> 00:01:33,748 Speaker 2: of them. The deadline to do so is today at 34 00:01:33,748 --> 00:01:36,468 Speaker 2: four pm Eastern. Now, if they do pick up that option, 35 00:01:36,508 --> 00:01:39,148 Speaker 2: Love will be due over twenty million dollars fully guaranteed 36 00:01:39,188 --> 00:01:42,548 Speaker 2: money in twenty twenty four. But Packers GM Brian guda 37 00:01:42,588 --> 00:01:45,708 Speaker 2: Kunsk was asked about this on Saturday and his decision 38 00:01:45,708 --> 00:01:47,828 Speaker 2: making tree. 39 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,108 Speaker 6: Yeah, I got to figure that out by tuesday, I guess, yeah. 40 00:01:50,108 --> 00:01:51,748 Speaker 6: But we're kind of still working through that. We've been 41 00:01:51,788 --> 00:01:54,148 Speaker 6: so focused on the draft. We've had some preliminary conversations, 42 00:01:54,148 --> 00:01:55,708 Speaker 6: but we'll get to that before to today. 43 00:01:56,468 --> 00:01:57,508 Speaker 4: What would be the reason not. 44 00:01:59,548 --> 00:02:02,228 Speaker 6: Again, I gotta get through that. There's you know, it's 45 00:02:02,268 --> 00:02:04,308 Speaker 6: a lot of money for a guy who hasn't, you know, play, 46 00:02:04,588 --> 00:02:07,548 Speaker 6: But at the same time, obviously we're moving forward with them, 47 00:02:07,548 --> 00:02:11,588 Speaker 6: so we'll figure that out by Tuesday. 48 00:02:11,428 --> 00:02:11,748 Speaker 3: All right. 49 00:02:11,788 --> 00:02:14,268 Speaker 2: So Tuesday today, four pm Eastern, we're going to know 50 00:02:14,628 --> 00:02:16,188 Speaker 2: about Jordan Love and the money that he's going to 51 00:02:16,188 --> 00:02:17,988 Speaker 2: make over the next couple of years. Fifth year options, 52 00:02:18,028 --> 00:02:20,788 Speaker 2: especially for quarterbacks, might give us a quick rundown to 53 00:02:20,828 --> 00:02:21,588 Speaker 2: how this goes on. 54 00:02:21,708 --> 00:02:24,548 Speaker 5: Yes, fifty year options for dummies? They do they still 55 00:02:24,548 --> 00:02:25,868 Speaker 5: do the dummies book. 56 00:02:28,108 --> 00:02:28,348 Speaker 4: One on. 57 00:02:30,948 --> 00:02:31,508 Speaker 3: The basics. 58 00:02:31,588 --> 00:02:35,588 Speaker 5: Ye, did they even do books period anymore? The fifth 59 00:02:35,628 --> 00:02:37,628 Speaker 5: year options, So Jordan Love under contract for this year. 60 00:02:37,668 --> 00:02:40,908 Speaker 5: The final year is four year rookie deal. If you're 61 00:02:40,908 --> 00:02:43,068 Speaker 5: a first round pick, you get that fifth year. Potentially 62 00:02:43,068 --> 00:02:44,788 Speaker 5: on the back end, a team can pick that up, 63 00:02:44,828 --> 00:02:47,908 Speaker 5: so they would guarantee, fully guarantee the money for next year. 64 00:02:47,908 --> 00:02:50,228 Speaker 5: When they first started with these fifth year options back 65 00:02:50,268 --> 00:02:52,548 Speaker 5: in twenty eleven, they were not guaranteed fully. They were 66 00:02:52,548 --> 00:02:55,308 Speaker 5: only guaranteed for injury, so his minimal risk on the teams. 67 00:02:55,348 --> 00:02:59,108 Speaker 5: And now you're seeing teams more reluctant to fully guarantee 68 00:02:59,108 --> 00:03:01,228 Speaker 5: some money for these guys. It's based on position. It's 69 00:03:01,228 --> 00:03:03,868 Speaker 5: based on number of Pro Bowls that you made. Uh, 70 00:03:03,988 --> 00:03:06,468 Speaker 5: it's if he made one, it's the transition tagging to 71 00:03:06,508 --> 00:03:08,948 Speaker 5: me two, it's the franchise tag. So the numbers are better, 72 00:03:09,108 --> 00:03:11,868 Speaker 5: the guarantees are better, and it's better for the players 73 00:03:11,908 --> 00:03:13,868 Speaker 5: because if teams are reluctant to do that, now you're 74 00:03:13,948 --> 00:03:16,388 Speaker 5: hitting free agency a little earlier, which potentially could happen 75 00:03:16,548 --> 00:03:17,468 Speaker 5: for Jordan Love here. 76 00:03:18,508 --> 00:03:20,588 Speaker 2: So what do you think this means for the Packers 77 00:03:20,628 --> 00:03:22,268 Speaker 2: and Jordan Love moving forward? I mean, he has to 78 00:03:22,268 --> 00:03:24,988 Speaker 2: play a certain way, obviously, but now there's like a messaging, 79 00:03:25,068 --> 00:03:27,508 Speaker 2: there's a sign that they are showing Jordan Love whether. 80 00:03:27,428 --> 00:03:28,748 Speaker 3: Or not they're willing to commit to him or now. 81 00:03:28,748 --> 00:03:29,148 Speaker 3: What do you think? 82 00:03:29,228 --> 00:03:31,188 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they have committed to him to a 83 00:03:31,188 --> 00:03:33,948 Speaker 7: certain extent. The fact that Aaron Rodgers has moved on 84 00:03:34,108 --> 00:03:36,708 Speaker 7: early in the offseason, they said that that was their plan, 85 00:03:37,028 --> 00:03:38,908 Speaker 7: and obviously he is now a New York Jets. So 86 00:03:38,948 --> 00:03:41,228 Speaker 7: for Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers, you look 87 00:03:41,268 --> 00:03:43,108 Speaker 7: at this, and if I'm the Packers, you have to 88 00:03:43,188 --> 00:03:45,708 Speaker 7: understand where they're coming from. Yes, we may like him, 89 00:03:45,708 --> 00:03:47,748 Speaker 7: we're moving forward with him, but at the same time, 90 00:03:47,988 --> 00:03:50,668 Speaker 7: do we really want to guarantee him twenty million dollars 91 00:03:50,668 --> 00:03:52,988 Speaker 7: before he has gone out there and become our full 92 00:03:53,028 --> 00:03:55,868 Speaker 7: time starter for Jordan Love, You're like, I hope they 93 00:03:55,948 --> 00:03:57,908 Speaker 7: don't pick up my option because I look at this 94 00:03:58,228 --> 00:04:00,868 Speaker 7: and well, Mike g just ended on as a player. 95 00:04:00,948 --> 00:04:03,668 Speaker 7: The faster you can get to free agency, the better 96 00:04:03,708 --> 00:04:06,828 Speaker 7: for yourself. Now that allows you and open market. And 97 00:04:06,868 --> 00:04:09,548 Speaker 7: if they don't allow him that, it's money for him. 98 00:04:09,588 --> 00:04:11,668 Speaker 7: You look at what we just said, that fifth year 99 00:04:11,708 --> 00:04:14,188 Speaker 7: option would pay him a little over twenty million dollars. Well, 100 00:04:14,188 --> 00:04:15,908 Speaker 7: if they choose not to pick up his fifth year 101 00:04:15,948 --> 00:04:19,388 Speaker 7: option and Jordan Love goes out there and just absolutely balls, 102 00:04:19,548 --> 00:04:21,268 Speaker 7: they're not going to let him leave town. So then 103 00:04:21,268 --> 00:04:23,948 Speaker 7: you're forced to franchise tag them, which now pays him 104 00:04:23,948 --> 00:04:26,948 Speaker 7: over thirty million dollars in that year instead of the twenty. 105 00:04:26,988 --> 00:04:29,508 Speaker 7: So if I'm Jordan Love, this is a great opportunity 106 00:04:29,548 --> 00:04:31,788 Speaker 7: for me to go out there and showcase what I 107 00:04:31,828 --> 00:04:34,228 Speaker 7: can do on the football field. Because gunakuz is right, 108 00:04:34,268 --> 00:04:36,948 Speaker 7: he hasn't played yet, but that really isn't his fault. 109 00:04:36,948 --> 00:04:39,548 Speaker 7: He was drafted to a team that had a quarterback 110 00:04:39,548 --> 00:04:42,108 Speaker 7: that had just won the MVP two times while he 111 00:04:42,148 --> 00:04:44,068 Speaker 7: got there, so it wasn't the opportunity for him to 112 00:04:44,108 --> 00:04:45,988 Speaker 7: get out there on the field and show what he 113 00:04:46,028 --> 00:04:47,748 Speaker 7: can do. So I think he's in a very unique 114 00:04:47,788 --> 00:04:50,908 Speaker 7: situation where now he has an opportunity to go out there, 115 00:04:51,268 --> 00:04:53,748 Speaker 7: play well and get paid. I say it on this 116 00:04:53,828 --> 00:04:55,988 Speaker 7: show all the time. As a rookie, you're in no 117 00:04:56,108 --> 00:04:58,908 Speaker 7: rush to hit the field and play. You're under contract, 118 00:04:58,948 --> 00:05:00,828 Speaker 7: like Mike said, for at least those four years as 119 00:05:00,828 --> 00:05:03,988 Speaker 7: a first rounder, the option of the fifth year. So 120 00:05:04,428 --> 00:05:05,828 Speaker 7: you get out there and you play well in your 121 00:05:05,868 --> 00:05:07,908 Speaker 7: first year, you go all Pro, you go Pro Bowl. 122 00:05:08,348 --> 00:05:11,588 Speaker 4: You're not getting paid yet. So for Jordan Love, now going. 123 00:05:11,388 --> 00:05:13,628 Speaker 7: Into your fourth year, have the best year of your 124 00:05:13,668 --> 00:05:15,228 Speaker 7: career and make the most of. 125 00:05:15,188 --> 00:05:18,108 Speaker 1: It unless it doesn't have it. And if he doesn't 126 00:05:18,108 --> 00:05:20,628 Speaker 1: have it, then he will wish he had the fifty option. Listen, 127 00:05:20,708 --> 00:05:23,308 Speaker 1: in the post Daniel Jones world, the fiftie option feels 128 00:05:23,348 --> 00:05:24,188 Speaker 1: like this cool. 129 00:05:23,908 --> 00:05:24,668 Speaker 4: Glamorous thing. 130 00:05:25,148 --> 00:05:27,988 Speaker 1: The list of quarterbacks to not get it is a 131 00:05:28,108 --> 00:05:30,028 Speaker 1: rough list, and I'm not going to name the guys 132 00:05:30,028 --> 00:05:31,588 Speaker 1: on that list, but Johnny Manzela's on it is that 133 00:05:31,668 --> 00:05:33,228 Speaker 1: kind of thing. The guys who did not get the 134 00:05:33,228 --> 00:05:35,148 Speaker 1: fiftie option, they don't not up staying with the team. 135 00:05:35,228 --> 00:05:36,508 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is an anomaly. 136 00:05:37,388 --> 00:05:39,428 Speaker 1: So listen, it'd be big for Daniel Jones to get it, 137 00:05:39,468 --> 00:05:40,388 Speaker 1: but he's not getting it. 138 00:05:40,428 --> 00:05:41,268 Speaker 4: You can't give that. 139 00:05:41,188 --> 00:05:43,868 Speaker 1: To him, The reporter asked, goodokuns, why wouldn't you give 140 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:47,108 Speaker 1: it to him? Well, because he's completed fifty passes the NFL, 141 00:05:47,148 --> 00:05:49,548 Speaker 1: you want to get him twenty million dollars. The mass says, 142 00:05:49,588 --> 00:05:51,388 Speaker 1: that's four hundred grand per completion. 143 00:05:51,668 --> 00:05:54,748 Speaker 4: Like, what do you mean, d No, they can't do that. 144 00:05:54,948 --> 00:05:57,948 Speaker 1: The message to him might be like, sorry, we drafted 145 00:05:57,988 --> 00:05:59,948 Speaker 1: you into a really difficult situation, but we need to 146 00:05:59,988 --> 00:06:02,948 Speaker 1: see a little more of you. This is like you 147 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:06,348 Speaker 1: go to the big box store, okay, and you want 148 00:06:06,388 --> 00:06:09,188 Speaker 1: to buy the giant thing of cheeseballs. 149 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:11,348 Speaker 4: It's like the fifty gallon cheeseball thing. 150 00:06:11,828 --> 00:06:13,868 Speaker 1: I'd like to try it. It's kind of a big investment. 151 00:06:14,188 --> 00:06:16,348 Speaker 1: So there's this sweet little grandmother with a shower cap 152 00:06:16,388 --> 00:06:18,628 Speaker 1: and she's given out the samples. She cuts one of 153 00:06:18,668 --> 00:06:20,468 Speaker 1: the cheeseballs in half and gives it you in a 154 00:06:20,468 --> 00:06:21,468 Speaker 1: Dixie cup and you eat it. 155 00:06:21,548 --> 00:06:23,508 Speaker 4: You're like, I think I want to buy it. Can 156 00:06:23,588 --> 00:06:25,268 Speaker 4: I have more? You can't have more. That's all you get. 157 00:06:25,348 --> 00:06:27,228 Speaker 1: Do You have to decide now if you want to 158 00:06:27,228 --> 00:06:29,668 Speaker 1: invest in fifty thousand cheese balls. I think I'm good. 159 00:06:29,748 --> 00:06:31,788 Speaker 1: I think I'll come back, and so that's where the 160 00:06:31,828 --> 00:06:34,148 Speaker 1: Packers are. It's very simple, Jordan Love, I hope he 161 00:06:34,188 --> 00:06:36,228 Speaker 1: becomes a Hall of Famer. Seems like a great guy. 162 00:06:36,468 --> 00:06:39,028 Speaker 1: But good because he's like, no, I'm not paying twenty 163 00:06:39,068 --> 00:06:39,588 Speaker 1: million dollars. 164 00:06:39,708 --> 00:06:42,188 Speaker 4: He might not have it. We have very little to 165 00:06:42,228 --> 00:06:42,548 Speaker 4: go on. 166 00:06:42,908 --> 00:06:45,948 Speaker 1: Most guys who don't get the fifth year Jordan Love aside, 167 00:06:46,028 --> 00:06:46,668 Speaker 1: don't have it. 168 00:06:47,428 --> 00:06:50,548 Speaker 5: Two things well, first of all, to highlight the difference 169 00:06:50,548 --> 00:06:53,348 Speaker 5: between Daniel Jones' fifth year option, which would have been 170 00:06:53,348 --> 00:06:55,628 Speaker 5: twenty two million dollars, and then wound up getting the 171 00:06:55,668 --> 00:06:58,308 Speaker 5: franchise tag which was thirty two, which then nudged it 172 00:06:58,348 --> 00:07:00,748 Speaker 5: into a contract negotiation which got the number up to 173 00:07:00,828 --> 00:07:04,508 Speaker 5: forty potentially over Ford. I mean, it's not a bad thing, 174 00:07:04,708 --> 00:07:07,828 Speaker 5: Jordan Love, for this thing to potentially be declined for you. 175 00:07:07,908 --> 00:07:10,108 Speaker 5: But that's the message that the Packers are sending him, 176 00:07:10,108 --> 00:07:12,308 Speaker 5: the same one the Giants sent Daniel Jones, which is 177 00:07:12,868 --> 00:07:15,828 Speaker 5: make us tag. You make us then go into an 178 00:07:15,828 --> 00:07:18,588 Speaker 5: extension negotiations with you. 179 00:07:18,588 --> 00:07:20,628 Speaker 4: You know, it's a good problem to have. 180 00:07:20,908 --> 00:07:23,028 Speaker 5: It's a problem afterward and you go, oh geez, that's 181 00:07:23,108 --> 00:07:25,468 Speaker 5: that's ten million dollars. We just pretty much gave away. 182 00:07:25,548 --> 00:07:29,428 Speaker 5: But you know what, maybe not giving him the fifth 183 00:07:29,508 --> 00:07:32,188 Speaker 5: year option motivated him a little bit. I wonder how 184 00:07:32,228 --> 00:07:34,668 Speaker 5: much of that is at play here. You know, let's 185 00:07:34,708 --> 00:07:37,708 Speaker 5: not guarantee this for him, Let's make him understand he's 186 00:07:37,708 --> 00:07:39,428 Speaker 5: got to work for this, and potentially that could be 187 00:07:39,468 --> 00:07:41,948 Speaker 5: a good thing. Sometimes that's how general managers think. The 188 00:07:41,948 --> 00:07:44,348 Speaker 5: other thing is then when there's no owner really at 189 00:07:44,348 --> 00:07:46,588 Speaker 5: play here. Sometimes I think about that when it comes 190 00:07:46,588 --> 00:07:48,108 Speaker 5: to the packers, like, would it be different if the 191 00:07:48,148 --> 00:07:51,028 Speaker 5: owner said no, we need to commit to him. For listen, 192 00:07:51,028 --> 00:07:53,788 Speaker 5: there's people in Green Bay that handle mur murphya, that 193 00:07:53,868 --> 00:07:56,788 Speaker 5: handle business like and owner. But it's a little different 194 00:07:56,828 --> 00:07:58,948 Speaker 5: when you are the owner and you are the one 195 00:07:58,988 --> 00:08:01,108 Speaker 5: person that can have a say over these things, and 196 00:08:01,148 --> 00:08:03,108 Speaker 5: you want to send a message both to your fan base, 197 00:08:03,268 --> 00:08:05,908 Speaker 5: the players, the locker, all that stuff. So let's see 198 00:08:05,908 --> 00:08:07,748 Speaker 5: how it plays out here. But again, Jordan Love not 199 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:08,908 Speaker 5: a bad thing if they don't pick it up. 200 00:08:08,908 --> 00:08:10,868 Speaker 7: The one thing for Green Bato they trade it up 201 00:08:11,028 --> 00:08:13,108 Speaker 7: to get Jordan Love. If you're going to draft this 202 00:08:13,228 --> 00:08:16,268 Speaker 7: quarterback in the first round, isn't this the reason you 203 00:08:16,348 --> 00:08:18,148 Speaker 7: do it? You get them in the first round because 204 00:08:18,148 --> 00:08:20,588 Speaker 7: it allows you that fifth year options. So it was 205 00:08:20,628 --> 00:08:22,668 Speaker 7: just like, if you're not going to do that and 206 00:08:22,668 --> 00:08:24,708 Speaker 7: then you just allow him a year earlier to get 207 00:08:24,748 --> 00:08:27,228 Speaker 7: to free agency, why go up in the first round 208 00:08:27,268 --> 00:08:27,668 Speaker 7: to get them? 209 00:08:27,708 --> 00:08:29,628 Speaker 2: Well, maybe because they thought that they were going to 210 00:08:29,708 --> 00:08:31,988 Speaker 2: be able to make this decision about Jordan Love a 211 00:08:31,988 --> 00:08:34,308 Speaker 2: little bit sooner than what they're being handled right now. 212 00:08:34,428 --> 00:08:36,828 Speaker 2: To me, this question isn't as much about Jordan Love 213 00:08:36,868 --> 00:08:39,668 Speaker 2: and his efficacy or this path of his success as 214 00:08:39,708 --> 00:08:42,268 Speaker 2: much as it is about the PTSD that Brian Kodokunz 215 00:08:42,348 --> 00:08:45,508 Speaker 2: is probably experiencing after the last three years. 216 00:08:45,548 --> 00:08:47,548 Speaker 3: Because for as much as we are sick of. 217 00:08:47,468 --> 00:08:49,788 Speaker 2: Following the left and the right and the U turns 218 00:08:49,788 --> 00:08:52,068 Speaker 2: and the darkness and the not with Aaron Rodgers, I 219 00:08:52,068 --> 00:08:55,308 Speaker 2: cannot imagine what Brian Koutakounz is feeling right now. So 220 00:08:55,428 --> 00:08:57,668 Speaker 2: he's probably like, you know what, we were all in 221 00:08:57,748 --> 00:08:59,988 Speaker 2: on a guy that absolutely took us on one of 222 00:09:00,068 --> 00:09:03,588 Speaker 2: the wildest professional lives of our life, and while it 223 00:09:03,788 --> 00:09:07,068 Speaker 2: brought the paths great success over the last eighteen years 224 00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:11,148 Speaker 2: for Guda Kouns in particular, he's probably thinking, like, listen, 225 00:09:11,188 --> 00:09:13,788 Speaker 2: I'm not committing to anybody right now, I'm just coming 226 00:09:13,788 --> 00:09:16,068 Speaker 2: off of being in a very committed relationship with this 227 00:09:16,148 --> 00:09:18,068 Speaker 2: quarterback that really jerked my chain at the end of 228 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:18,748 Speaker 2: my time with him. 229 00:09:19,028 --> 00:09:21,028 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna I'm gonna take my time. 230 00:09:21,668 --> 00:09:25,348 Speaker 2: I asked our wonderful research team, a Rich Goldberg at 231 00:09:25,348 --> 00:09:29,468 Speaker 2: the lead specific parameters of listen, are there a lot 232 00:09:29,548 --> 00:09:32,988 Speaker 2: of fourth year guys quarterbacks to take over the starting 233 00:09:33,068 --> 00:09:35,748 Speaker 2: job with little to no experience before and what panned out? 234 00:09:35,988 --> 00:09:39,148 Speaker 3: Two names came up, they got Aaron Rodgers and. 235 00:09:39,108 --> 00:09:41,828 Speaker 2: Matt schab Right, that's it, that's all you got. And 236 00:09:41,868 --> 00:09:44,108 Speaker 2: we know how those two careers panned out after that. 237 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:46,948 Speaker 2: So I don't blame Brian Gudukuns for handling it this way, 238 00:09:47,228 --> 00:09:49,908 Speaker 2: just throwing this money around because they think we all 239 00:09:49,948 --> 00:09:51,908 Speaker 2: know what the quarterback. But there are plenty of teams 240 00:09:51,908 --> 00:09:54,668 Speaker 2: that go a few years of just being TBD on 241 00:09:54,708 --> 00:09:57,348 Speaker 2: their quarterback situation and that's all he's handling it here. 242 00:09:57,468 --> 00:09:59,548 Speaker 2: I don't blame him whatsoever for doing it this way. 243 00:09:59,868 --> 00:10:00,908 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel for him. 244 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,588 Speaker 7: I mean, you feel like you got Roger's of the 245 00:10:03,668 --> 00:10:05,828 Speaker 7: Jets and now all of a sudden, your back at 246 00:10:05,868 --> 00:10:08,788 Speaker 7: to Poldium. And there's another question about a quarterback, it's 247 00:10:08,828 --> 00:10:12,948 Speaker 7: just like, my goodness. But if they don't tag them, man, 248 00:10:13,268 --> 00:10:16,708 Speaker 7: you're looking at a situation where you just said, Daniel Jones, 249 00:10:16,748 --> 00:10:19,828 Speaker 7: twenty million now compared to forty million is a huge difference. 250 00:10:19,828 --> 00:10:22,228 Speaker 1: It's ironic too, because you get out of that terrible relationship. 251 00:10:22,268 --> 00:10:24,668 Speaker 1: Why because you're chasing love, like you think, like the 252 00:10:24,668 --> 00:10:25,828 Speaker 1: guy's name is literally love. 253 00:10:26,468 --> 00:10:27,068 Speaker 4: I love it. 254 00:10:27,148 --> 00:10:29,228 Speaker 1: To answer your question about why wouldn't they want to 255 00:10:29,308 --> 00:10:31,028 Speaker 1: use the fifth round, I don't know, because it was 256 00:10:31,028 --> 00:10:32,868 Speaker 1: the strangest worst draft pick of all time and it's 257 00:10:32,868 --> 00:10:35,228 Speaker 1: still aging terribly, like still to this day, it was. 258 00:10:35,188 --> 00:10:37,308 Speaker 4: The strangest draft pick of all time. I don't know. 259 00:10:37,388 --> 00:10:40,068 Speaker 1: Listen, if he gets out there and the problem is, 260 00:10:40,108 --> 00:10:42,348 Speaker 1: like what does he have to do this year for 261 00:10:42,428 --> 00:10:44,308 Speaker 1: them to like the no fifth year? What does he 262 00:10:44,388 --> 00:10:46,948 Speaker 1: have to do to get like the extension to have 263 00:10:47,028 --> 00:10:48,748 Speaker 1: a future with them, Like you got to get to 264 00:10:48,788 --> 00:10:50,548 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I think, like you have to be really 265 00:10:50,588 --> 00:10:53,548 Speaker 1: good otherwise it's like, well, sorry, Jordan, was a tough 266 00:10:53,588 --> 00:10:54,588 Speaker 1: run for you, but we'll see them. 267 00:10:54,628 --> 00:10:56,108 Speaker 4: We're going to go to the draft. I think there's 268 00:10:56,148 --> 00:10:58,068 Speaker 4: a big standard for him. We've had. It's funny we 269 00:10:58,108 --> 00:11:02,108 Speaker 4: had the same kind what is Daniel Jones? And I 270 00:11:02,108 --> 00:11:03,588 Speaker 4: think now Daniels just did it. 271 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:05,868 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's actually makes it tough for Love because 272 00:11:05,908 --> 00:11:08,228 Speaker 1: it's like, well, Daniel Jones got them to the playoffs 273 00:11:08,268 --> 00:11:09,388 Speaker 1: and one, what did you do? 274 00:11:09,428 --> 00:11:11,428 Speaker 4: You won nine and eight? Like it's I feel like 275 00:11:11,428 --> 00:11:12,348 Speaker 4: there's a standard little bit. 276 00:11:12,388 --> 00:11:14,708 Speaker 5: Well, the other difference I would highlight here is Daniel 277 00:11:14,788 --> 00:11:17,628 Speaker 5: Jones was not Joe Shane's draft pick, right, so he 278 00:11:17,668 --> 00:11:20,268 Speaker 5: had to win over a new regime that didn't draft him. 279 00:11:20,308 --> 00:11:22,548 Speaker 5: Jordan Love, this was Brian good Accun's draft back. So 280 00:11:22,628 --> 00:11:25,148 Speaker 5: you know he wants it to succeed. So maybe the 281 00:11:25,148 --> 00:11:27,628 Speaker 5: bars just slightly lower than if it was that new 282 00:11:27,668 --> 00:11:28,628 Speaker 5: regime that he needs I wants. 283 00:11:28,748 --> 00:11:30,468 Speaker 1: I think he wants it to succeed for personal reasons 284 00:11:30,508 --> 00:11:32,868 Speaker 1: to yeah, I think, yeah, this is great. 285 00:11:32,988 --> 00:11:35,228 Speaker 4: Yes, and we made it work and it was the 286 00:11:35,308 --> 00:11:35,828 Speaker 4: right pick. 287 00:11:36,108 --> 00:11:38,668 Speaker 1: We don't need Aaron, But if he goes out there 288 00:11:38,708 --> 00:11:40,268 Speaker 1: and he just doesn't have it, there's nothing in the 289 00:11:40,268 --> 00:11:42,628 Speaker 1: front office can do. That's why we said over and 290 00:11:42,668 --> 00:11:44,868 Speaker 1: over he is the most mysterious player in the NFL. 291 00:11:44,908 --> 00:11:46,708 Speaker 1: Tim and Trey Lance are the mystery brothers and we 292 00:11:46,748 --> 00:11:48,268 Speaker 1: don't know if they're good or not, we're gonna find 293 00:11:48,268 --> 00:11:50,068 Speaker 1: out plastic and. 294 00:11:50,108 --> 00:11:51,108 Speaker 3: Like they're being themselves. 295 00:11:51,228 --> 00:11:54,308 Speaker 2: This is uh, it's time for others to buyer keep trying. 296 00:11:54,308 --> 00:11:57,028 Speaker 2: As I'm trying to walk Kyle Brand through the Mets. 297 00:11:57,148 --> 00:12:00,748 Speaker 4: Gala, I said, Gala, galla, gala. 298 00:12:00,908 --> 00:12:02,948 Speaker 2: But that's not what we're want to talk about right now. Oh, 299 00:12:02,948 --> 00:12:06,148 Speaker 2: we're gonna play buying trying. If you disagree with something, 300 00:12:06,468 --> 00:12:08,708 Speaker 2: he keep trying. If you're buying it, that's what you 301 00:12:08,748 --> 00:12:11,108 Speaker 2: bark out. And we have two topics. Let's start with 302 00:12:11,188 --> 00:12:14,348 Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins and his future. It's been a topic of discussion, 303 00:12:14,468 --> 00:12:16,988 Speaker 2: feels like for a long time, but specifically this offseason. 304 00:12:17,188 --> 00:12:19,148 Speaker 2: The Cardinals let receiver made it clear yesterday he has 305 00:12:19,188 --> 00:12:22,028 Speaker 2: no plans on changing teams. In a video on Instagram, 306 00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:24,788 Speaker 2: Hopkins said, who said I was gonna go? Who said 307 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:26,708 Speaker 2: I want to leave? I'm out here trying to work. 308 00:12:26,788 --> 00:12:27,068 Speaker 1: Baby. 309 00:12:27,108 --> 00:12:29,508 Speaker 2: Here's a statement the DeAndre Hopkins will still be on 310 00:12:29,548 --> 00:12:30,388 Speaker 2: the Cardinals Week one. 311 00:12:30,428 --> 00:12:32,468 Speaker 3: Guys, are you buying this or are you going to 312 00:12:32,588 --> 00:12:32,988 Speaker 3: keep trying? 313 00:12:33,148 --> 00:12:36,068 Speaker 7: I am keep trying. I think this has been a discussion. 314 00:12:36,348 --> 00:12:38,188 Speaker 7: I think John Ganna has come out and said, hey, 315 00:12:38,228 --> 00:12:39,668 Speaker 7: we want to figure out what's the best thing to 316 00:12:39,708 --> 00:12:42,628 Speaker 7: do for both sides. I can remember DeAndre Hopkins doing 317 00:12:42,668 --> 00:12:45,668 Speaker 7: an interview with McFadden and he's talking about the teams 318 00:12:45,668 --> 00:12:47,908 Speaker 7: that he might want to go to, making faces. It 319 00:12:48,068 --> 00:12:50,068 Speaker 7: was New England Patriots, it was a Jets. 320 00:12:49,828 --> 00:12:50,548 Speaker 4: It was the Bills. 321 00:12:50,668 --> 00:12:53,028 Speaker 7: So I think this is something that's kind of continuing 322 00:12:53,068 --> 00:12:55,148 Speaker 7: to happen. I guess the only way it doesn't if 323 00:12:55,188 --> 00:12:57,548 Speaker 7: his contract doesn't allow him to be traded. But I 324 00:12:57,588 --> 00:13:00,468 Speaker 7: do not see him being on the roster. Falcons trying 325 00:13:00,508 --> 00:13:03,228 Speaker 7: to I mean, Cardinal's trying to rebuild and start over. 326 00:13:03,508 --> 00:13:06,308 Speaker 7: I think for somebody like him, similar to Steffan Gilmore 327 00:13:06,388 --> 00:13:08,588 Speaker 7: leaving the Colts to join the Cowboys, you join the 328 00:13:08,588 --> 00:13:09,988 Speaker 7: team that maybe can win. 329 00:13:10,108 --> 00:13:13,788 Speaker 5: Right now, I'm buying Listen, we're about to talk about 330 00:13:13,828 --> 00:13:16,708 Speaker 5: the met Now you're in my head the met Galla, Yes, 331 00:13:17,548 --> 00:13:20,468 Speaker 5: and you know the celebrities that are involved. Who's getting together, 332 00:13:20,828 --> 00:13:24,308 Speaker 5: who's breaking up, who's reconciling. Right I'm in the reconcile 333 00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:26,788 Speaker 5: stage here with DeAndre Hopkins and the Cardinals, and we've 334 00:13:26,788 --> 00:13:29,148 Speaker 5: been talking about everything the Cardinals have done to generate 335 00:13:29,188 --> 00:13:31,428 Speaker 5: some good vibes for Kyler Murray to make him feel 336 00:13:31,428 --> 00:13:32,068 Speaker 5: good about. 337 00:13:31,828 --> 00:13:33,628 Speaker 4: The new regime. What's the best way to do it? 338 00:13:33,828 --> 00:13:36,188 Speaker 5: Keep one of the top wide receivers that this team 339 00:13:36,228 --> 00:13:38,308 Speaker 5: has had, and a guy that's he's doing a ton 340 00:13:38,348 --> 00:13:40,508 Speaker 5: of money this year by the way, Yeah, nineteen million 341 00:13:40,628 --> 00:13:43,228 Speaker 5: or something like that, which was because of his previous 342 00:13:43,268 --> 00:13:45,308 Speaker 5: trade and was able to roll that into a new deal, 343 00:13:46,188 --> 00:13:49,108 Speaker 5: so it could potentially be lowered if he wants to 344 00:13:49,108 --> 00:13:51,468 Speaker 5: facilitate a trade. But they've been at this for a 345 00:13:51,468 --> 00:13:54,868 Speaker 5: while and really couldn't find a suitor, and so what's 346 00:13:54,908 --> 00:13:55,588 Speaker 5: the best thing to do? 347 00:13:55,748 --> 00:13:57,308 Speaker 4: Reconcile, get back together. I'm buying. 348 00:13:57,468 --> 00:13:59,388 Speaker 1: I'm keep trying, and I would say that to DeAndre, 349 00:13:59,548 --> 00:14:01,388 Speaker 1: keep trying to convince us that you want to be there. 350 00:14:01,948 --> 00:14:05,228 Speaker 4: Who said this? You said it talking about what is 351 00:14:05,228 --> 00:14:07,628 Speaker 4: this hypothetical? I'm talking about the stuff Jason's that I 352 00:14:07,628 --> 00:14:08,148 Speaker 4: feel like you've. 353 00:14:08,068 --> 00:14:10,428 Speaker 1: Gone on every podcast in the world and like vamped 354 00:14:10,428 --> 00:14:12,668 Speaker 1: about this team would be fun, and von Miller's out 355 00:14:12,668 --> 00:14:14,108 Speaker 1: there talking about you. 356 00:14:14,108 --> 00:14:15,988 Speaker 4: You said it, so listen. 357 00:14:16,108 --> 00:14:18,588 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is some like I respectable 358 00:14:18,588 --> 00:14:21,668 Speaker 1: but sort of flimsy negotiating tactic where he's like, oh, 359 00:14:21,708 --> 00:14:22,828 Speaker 1: I want to be here, I want to be here, 360 00:14:22,828 --> 00:14:24,348 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are like, yeah, he definitely wants to 361 00:14:24,388 --> 00:14:24,628 Speaker 1: be here. 362 00:14:24,668 --> 00:14:25,148 Speaker 4: It's gonna be. 363 00:14:25,148 --> 00:14:26,428 Speaker 1: Very expensive if you want to get him out of 364 00:14:26,428 --> 00:14:27,788 Speaker 1: here because he wants to be here and he's working. 365 00:14:28,148 --> 00:14:30,028 Speaker 1: I think it's to keep trying, which is probably what 366 00:14:30,028 --> 00:14:31,388 Speaker 1: they're doing on the phones right now. 367 00:14:31,508 --> 00:14:33,308 Speaker 2: I am ditto on the keep trying, but also in 368 00:14:33,308 --> 00:14:35,148 Speaker 2: the capacity of I'm gonna keep trying to figure out 369 00:14:35,148 --> 00:14:37,708 Speaker 2: what the best scenario it is to watch DeAndre Hopkins 370 00:14:37,788 --> 00:14:40,548 Speaker 2: really become this wide receiver extraordinary that we all wanted 371 00:14:40,628 --> 00:14:44,188 Speaker 2: him to be. I know he's had these time spectacular 372 00:14:44,268 --> 00:14:46,228 Speaker 2: runs like wow, look at his talent skill. 373 00:14:46,428 --> 00:14:47,748 Speaker 3: I want him to put together. 374 00:14:47,468 --> 00:14:50,028 Speaker 2: This just like ball or season that we just like 375 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:51,388 Speaker 2: is non negotiable. 376 00:14:51,468 --> 00:14:52,708 Speaker 3: You were awesome this year. 377 00:14:52,788 --> 00:14:56,308 Speaker 2: There's no missing games, there's no injuries, there's no nothing like. 378 00:14:56,348 --> 00:14:58,308 Speaker 3: I want you to tell me and show me. Don't 379 00:14:58,348 --> 00:14:58,708 Speaker 3: make me. 380 00:14:58,708 --> 00:15:00,908 Speaker 2: Buy into the fact that we should be discussing you 381 00:15:01,228 --> 00:15:02,148 Speaker 2: on May second. 382 00:15:01,948 --> 00:15:03,308 Speaker 1: Jay, let me tell let me shore now, who'd you 383 00:15:03,348 --> 00:15:05,308 Speaker 1: rather have on your team this fallow see for DeAndre Hopkins, 384 00:15:05,308 --> 00:15:08,468 Speaker 1: wrote o'beckham, DeAndre Hopkins, how come DeAndre Hopkins? 385 00:15:08,468 --> 00:15:11,028 Speaker 7: We watched him last year he has this suspension. He 386 00:15:11,068 --> 00:15:14,908 Speaker 7: comes in first game, ten second game over one hundred yards. 387 00:15:14,908 --> 00:15:17,668 Speaker 7: Good Oldell Beckham is really good. He didn't play last year. 388 00:15:17,828 --> 00:15:20,708 Speaker 7: I watched DeAndre Hopkins last year go out there in Western. 389 00:15:20,548 --> 00:15:23,668 Speaker 3: So we had a Mechala questioned teed up. But I 390 00:15:23,748 --> 00:15:25,308 Speaker 3: just decided I'll hijack the whole thing. 391 00:15:25,188 --> 00:15:27,748 Speaker 2: And I'm whoa, Yeah, I'm going team themes for what 392 00:15:27,788 --> 00:15:28,948 Speaker 2: we saw at the Mechcal last night. 393 00:15:28,988 --> 00:15:31,188 Speaker 3: So please buying or keep trying over to that side of. 394 00:15:31,148 --> 00:15:33,268 Speaker 2: The stage, and I'm gonna tee you guys up, and 395 00:15:33,308 --> 00:15:36,068 Speaker 2: you must tell me if you are buying these concepts or. 396 00:15:36,028 --> 00:15:36,788 Speaker 3: You're gonna keep trying. 397 00:15:36,908 --> 00:15:37,028 Speaker 1: Right. 398 00:15:37,188 --> 00:15:40,268 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're starting with Anne Hathaway. She was away from 399 00:15:40,268 --> 00:15:43,268 Speaker 2: the Mecals for five years. This is her return to 400 00:15:43,308 --> 00:15:45,468 Speaker 2: the Mecala over five years. Kind of like the New 401 00:15:45,468 --> 00:15:47,988 Speaker 2: England Patriots and how we've been trying to figure them out. 402 00:15:47,868 --> 00:15:48,988 Speaker 3: For five years and what they're doing. 403 00:15:49,308 --> 00:15:49,428 Speaker 1: Uh. 404 00:15:49,508 --> 00:15:50,828 Speaker 3: This is a first Sachi. 405 00:15:50,628 --> 00:15:53,548 Speaker 2: Dress, which is a classic beauty uh. And Hathaway of 406 00:15:53,548 --> 00:15:56,348 Speaker 2: course notorious for having like a lot of movies that 407 00:15:56,388 --> 00:15:58,268 Speaker 2: did a really great in the two thousands, kind of 408 00:15:58,308 --> 00:16:01,828 Speaker 2: like three Super Bowls worth but these pins in particular, 409 00:16:01,988 --> 00:16:04,108 Speaker 2: is this Bill O'Brien not trying to keep the seams 410 00:16:04,108 --> 00:16:05,148 Speaker 2: of this team together? 411 00:16:05,348 --> 00:16:07,188 Speaker 3: Are you guys buying this or you're gonna keep trying? 412 00:16:07,468 --> 00:16:09,468 Speaker 7: I'm buying it. I like the outfit. The dress looks 413 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:12,068 Speaker 7: good on, and so I am saying I am buying. Okay, 414 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:15,868 Speaker 7: I'm picturing the Meryl Streep. That's all. 415 00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:16,588 Speaker 4: I'll go keep. 416 00:16:16,428 --> 00:16:18,348 Speaker 5: Trying to keep trying, right, I don't remember what the 417 00:16:18,428 --> 00:16:19,308 Speaker 5: question was, but I'm buying. 418 00:16:19,508 --> 00:16:23,348 Speaker 2: You're buying this? Sorry, Sachi, all right, Jared Leto, this 419 00:16:23,428 --> 00:16:25,388 Speaker 2: is a Carl lager in stea. 420 00:16:26,548 --> 00:16:28,228 Speaker 3: Jared Letto showed up in this past. 421 00:16:28,388 --> 00:16:30,668 Speaker 2: Now this Carl Lagerfeld, of course, was in charge of 422 00:16:30,668 --> 00:16:32,428 Speaker 2: the House of Shedelle for a long time. This is 423 00:16:32,468 --> 00:16:36,908 Speaker 2: an homage to Carl Lagerfeld's pet cat Pet. Okay, this 424 00:16:36,988 --> 00:16:40,108 Speaker 2: to me is the Detroit Lions. You are so confused 425 00:16:40,148 --> 00:16:42,108 Speaker 2: as to what the Lions were doing in the first round. 426 00:16:42,148 --> 00:16:43,908 Speaker 2: Jared Leto showed up on this red carpet. You were like, 427 00:16:44,028 --> 00:16:44,628 Speaker 2: what is happening? 428 00:16:44,668 --> 00:16:45,508 Speaker 3: Why is and making me so. 429 00:16:45,508 --> 00:16:48,388 Speaker 2: Uncomfortable for twenty minutes, and then he took the hat off, 430 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,988 Speaker 2: the head off, and you're like, I guess it's starting 431 00:16:50,988 --> 00:16:53,108 Speaker 2: to make more sense, but I'm still uncomfortable about it, 432 00:16:53,508 --> 00:16:55,228 Speaker 2: buying or keep trying the fact that this would be 433 00:16:55,268 --> 00:16:57,748 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions draft experience that they went. 434 00:16:57,628 --> 00:16:58,388 Speaker 3: To last weekend. 435 00:16:58,748 --> 00:17:00,428 Speaker 7: I see what you're doing now. You want us to 436 00:17:00,468 --> 00:17:04,028 Speaker 7: focus on the Detroit Lion and I am very distracted 437 00:17:04,108 --> 00:17:06,188 Speaker 7: by this and no way keep trying. 438 00:17:06,348 --> 00:17:08,268 Speaker 1: I feel like it's keep trying because didn't they steal 439 00:17:08,308 --> 00:17:10,948 Speaker 1: this from the masked singer Ken Jong is. 440 00:17:10,948 --> 00:17:13,908 Speaker 2: Furious figure sole it from Schupette. 441 00:17:15,228 --> 00:17:18,228 Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna steal a page from Doja cat here. 442 00:17:18,308 --> 00:17:20,868 Speaker 4: My answer is just gonna be very good. 443 00:17:20,988 --> 00:17:21,348 Speaker 3: Here you go. 444 00:17:21,428 --> 00:17:23,068 Speaker 2: That's a way to get out of it, all right. 445 00:17:23,708 --> 00:17:26,788 Speaker 2: The bridal theme was of heavy providence. Last night, Penelope, 446 00:17:26,868 --> 00:17:30,348 Speaker 2: cruz Ava, Max and l Fanning all showed up looking 447 00:17:30,388 --> 00:17:32,628 Speaker 2: like they were ready to walk in down the aisle 448 00:17:32,708 --> 00:17:34,708 Speaker 2: to whoever was willing to be standing at the end. 449 00:17:35,068 --> 00:17:38,588 Speaker 2: I'm picturing a Aaron Rodgers and the Jets like here 450 00:17:38,628 --> 00:17:41,028 Speaker 2: I am on our second date in the bridle gown. Hintints, 451 00:17:41,068 --> 00:17:42,708 Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you that we must win a 452 00:17:42,748 --> 00:17:46,028 Speaker 2: Lombardi hintints. What you're upon your first season? Here are 453 00:17:46,028 --> 00:17:47,828 Speaker 2: you buying or keep trying the fact that if somebody 454 00:17:47,868 --> 00:17:50,188 Speaker 2: showed up on a date with you wearing a bridle gown, 455 00:17:50,228 --> 00:17:52,908 Speaker 2: they're like, hey, let's have a commitment early on, let's go. 456 00:17:53,468 --> 00:17:56,308 Speaker 7: I'm like this, I'm out to door, gone trying. 457 00:17:57,988 --> 00:18:00,028 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Aaron Rodgers just standing here with a bridle 458 00:18:00,068 --> 00:18:03,028 Speaker 2: gown in New Jersey saying yes, I commit I do 459 00:18:03,268 --> 00:18:04,028 Speaker 2: to bring you a. 460 00:18:04,028 --> 00:18:05,668 Speaker 4: Super I agree to that. 461 00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:07,148 Speaker 1: But I heard you say if someone shows up in 462 00:18:07,188 --> 00:18:09,988 Speaker 1: a date, I'm calling the police. 463 00:18:10,788 --> 00:18:13,148 Speaker 4: No way, no way. 464 00:18:13,628 --> 00:18:15,988 Speaker 7: But if it's an Aaron Rodgers caliber date, you may 465 00:18:16,068 --> 00:18:17,908 Speaker 7: be willing to sit down for a little longer. 466 00:18:18,508 --> 00:18:18,828 Speaker 4: Yeah. 467 00:18:18,868 --> 00:18:21,828 Speaker 5: Maybe, well, yeah, sometimes you get well, this whole Rodgers 468 00:18:22,028 --> 00:18:24,108 Speaker 5: next thing does feel sort of like a reality show, 469 00:18:24,148 --> 00:18:26,388 Speaker 5: like they were there and you have to get married 470 00:18:26,468 --> 00:18:27,468 Speaker 5: if somebody picks you. 471 00:18:27,628 --> 00:18:30,268 Speaker 4: Uh, Darva Conger, What was that, Darva Conger? 472 00:18:30,348 --> 00:18:30,508 Speaker 1: Yeah? 473 00:18:31,908 --> 00:18:37,988 Speaker 2: Type Will Levis or Hendon Hooker, Jason, Who do you 474 00:18:38,028 --> 00:18:39,788 Speaker 2: think ended up in a better situation? 475 00:18:40,228 --> 00:18:45,548 Speaker 7: Better situation may second after the draft fortune telling. I'm 476 00:18:45,668 --> 00:18:48,708 Speaker 7: gonna say, uh, Hendon Hooker, And I think the Detroit lines. 477 00:18:48,748 --> 00:18:51,668 Speaker 7: I think Ben Johnson being there as an offensive coordinator. 478 00:18:51,708 --> 00:18:53,588 Speaker 7: Some of the weapons that they were able to get obviously, 479 00:18:53,868 --> 00:18:57,668 Speaker 7: Jamiir Gibs being added to that, Jameson Williamson. Jameson Williams 480 00:18:57,708 --> 00:19:00,468 Speaker 7: as a wide receiver, young guy only his second year, 481 00:19:00,468 --> 00:19:02,948 Speaker 7: to'll be able to grow together. Detroit is a young 482 00:19:02,988 --> 00:19:05,828 Speaker 7: team who's up and coming. So I think Hooker obviously rehabbing, 483 00:19:06,148 --> 00:19:08,748 Speaker 7: getting right, having a veteran like Jared Goff to learn from, 484 00:19:08,828 --> 00:19:10,268 Speaker 7: I think he's in a pretty good situation. 485 00:19:10,748 --> 00:19:13,988 Speaker 5: Yeah, both quarterbacks that are currently on these teams, you're 486 00:19:13,988 --> 00:19:16,148 Speaker 5: not looking at it. It's not like you get drafted 487 00:19:16,148 --> 00:19:18,028 Speaker 5: by the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes and there's just no 488 00:19:18,108 --> 00:19:20,388 Speaker 5: path to the starting quarterback you have for fifteen years. 489 00:19:20,188 --> 00:19:23,668 Speaker 4: It's both having angled to that. I kind of agree 490 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:24,308 Speaker 4: with Rhett. 491 00:19:24,348 --> 00:19:27,268 Speaker 5: I think Kendon Hooker is probably in the better situation. 492 00:19:27,388 --> 00:19:29,428 Speaker 5: Also when it comes to Ben Johnson, what if Ben 493 00:19:29,508 --> 00:19:31,788 Speaker 5: Johnson winds up somewhere else in a year or two 494 00:19:31,868 --> 00:19:33,988 Speaker 5: and wants to bring Hendon Hooker with him, Right, So 495 00:19:34,468 --> 00:19:36,708 Speaker 5: you got that potential because he's already on the doorstep. 496 00:19:36,748 --> 00:19:39,068 Speaker 5: No offense to Tim Kelly with the with the Titans, 497 00:19:39,068 --> 00:19:40,828 Speaker 5: but Ben Johnson already on the doorstep of being a 498 00:19:40,868 --> 00:19:41,268 Speaker 5: head coach. 499 00:19:41,268 --> 00:19:42,948 Speaker 4: So I'll go I'll lean Hooker on this one. 500 00:19:43,268 --> 00:19:45,868 Speaker 2: I just think the narrative behind what will love us 501 00:19:45,948 --> 00:19:47,908 Speaker 2: just went through over the last week, he's gonna it's 502 00:19:47,908 --> 00:19:49,708 Speaker 2: gonna take a while for him to shake that unless 503 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:51,948 Speaker 2: he comes out and just is an absolute star and 504 00:19:52,028 --> 00:19:55,428 Speaker 2: makes us forget the unfortunate. 505 00:19:54,948 --> 00:19:56,468 Speaker 3: Fall that went with his draft stock. 506 00:19:56,868 --> 00:19:58,588 Speaker 2: I think Hendon Hooker just has a bit more of 507 00:19:58,628 --> 00:20:01,068 Speaker 2: a clean slate, if you will, coming into his first year. 508 00:20:06,988 --> 00:20:10,788 Speaker 4: Talking about the NFL oh No. 509 00:20:10,988 --> 00:20:14,988 Speaker 2: On Thursday night, defensive tackle Matter Smith is selected twenty sixth. 510 00:20:14,668 --> 00:20:17,188 Speaker 3: Overall by the Dallas Cowboys. 511 00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:19,668 Speaker 2: A Michigan man, and on Friday he was touring their facility. 512 00:20:19,988 --> 00:20:22,348 Speaker 2: Here's a behind the scenes look inside the Cowboys draft 513 00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:25,348 Speaker 2: room though, to see how that decision went down to 514 00:20:25,348 --> 00:20:26,108 Speaker 2: get Smith there. 515 00:20:28,308 --> 00:20:29,468 Speaker 4: We had to take the nose guard. 516 00:20:29,708 --> 00:20:32,188 Speaker 8: When we have them one and two together, you got 517 00:20:32,228 --> 00:20:34,468 Speaker 8: two minutes just give more bump. 518 00:20:36,828 --> 00:20:37,788 Speaker 4: Well, who would you take? 519 00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:40,508 Speaker 8: Personally? I would go to the Mazi because I know 520 00:20:40,748 --> 00:20:44,228 Speaker 8: that he helps us now with the guard. I love 521 00:20:44,308 --> 00:20:47,388 Speaker 8: the guard too. My question is you're adding something to 522 00:20:47,428 --> 00:20:50,188 Speaker 8: it where we have depth. I think the defensive line 523 00:20:50,228 --> 00:20:53,868 Speaker 8: that gets you an immediate starter and something for the future. 524 00:20:53,948 --> 00:20:55,028 Speaker 5: Here, I am cut. 525 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:57,988 Speaker 8: We've missed one of those two guys after having them 526 00:20:57,988 --> 00:20:59,948 Speaker 8: both here in our hands, and we're better on a 527 00:20:59,988 --> 00:21:01,748 Speaker 8: lot of scrimmers. What are either one of these guys? 528 00:21:02,388 --> 00:21:05,268 Speaker 8: We've had offensive linemen there is had the opportunity to 529 00:21:05,268 --> 00:21:07,828 Speaker 8: pick them. We've not had a defensive lineman into your 530 00:21:07,868 --> 00:21:10,788 Speaker 8: defensive lineman that high in quite some time. 531 00:21:12,668 --> 00:21:13,228 Speaker 4: We're good. 532 00:21:18,908 --> 00:21:23,428 Speaker 7: The Mozzie, Hello, Yo, what's happening baby? 533 00:21:25,188 --> 00:21:27,228 Speaker 8: I got somebody that wants to talk to you, my 534 00:21:27,308 --> 00:21:29,548 Speaker 8: man for one second? 535 00:21:30,068 --> 00:21:34,788 Speaker 4: Yes, is this Mazie? Is that cowboy? 536 00:21:35,908 --> 00:21:36,108 Speaker 8: Yeah? 537 00:21:36,508 --> 00:21:39,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we're waking to have it, Mazzie. 538 00:21:39,348 --> 00:21:42,348 Speaker 6: I'm telling you it's our thrill to be able to 539 00:21:42,388 --> 00:21:45,988 Speaker 6: call you this Jerry Jones and okay, we just turned 540 00:21:45,988 --> 00:21:46,508 Speaker 6: your car down. 541 00:21:46,548 --> 00:21:47,428 Speaker 4: We're drafting you. 542 00:21:50,748 --> 00:21:51,508 Speaker 3: That's really cool. 543 00:21:51,948 --> 00:21:54,388 Speaker 2: The clapping we could have done without the clapping, perhaps, 544 00:21:54,388 --> 00:21:56,828 Speaker 2: but then the phone calls are always awesome. Players are 545 00:21:56,908 --> 00:21:58,548 Speaker 2: just like that guy's gonna go be adelas cowboy. 546 00:21:58,548 --> 00:21:59,148 Speaker 3: That's really cool. 547 00:21:59,388 --> 00:22:01,548 Speaker 2: Mazie Smith now drafted a new division that had three 548 00:22:01,588 --> 00:22:04,028 Speaker 2: teams in the twenty twenty two Divisional Round. Cowboys, he 549 00:22:04,028 --> 00:22:07,428 Speaker 2: goes into That's only the third time in NFL history 550 00:22:07,468 --> 00:22:09,748 Speaker 2: the three teams from the same division reached the divisional 551 00:22:09,828 --> 00:22:12,508 Speaker 2: round all together. So the NFC East was a gift 552 00:22:12,548 --> 00:22:14,068 Speaker 2: they kept on giving. They gave us a glimpse of 553 00:22:14,108 --> 00:22:18,148 Speaker 2: the old NFC Beast last year. So does the NFC 554 00:22:18,268 --> 00:22:20,388 Speaker 2: road to the Super Bowl next year run through the East? 555 00:22:20,468 --> 00:22:22,988 Speaker 4: Kyle truerfuls, I do process elimination. 556 00:22:23,348 --> 00:22:25,708 Speaker 1: If we're gonna look around the NFC, I can't see 557 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:27,508 Speaker 1: it in the North. You know, the Vikings at another 558 00:22:27,508 --> 00:22:28,988 Speaker 1: receiver in the first night at the Super Bowl. 559 00:22:29,028 --> 00:22:30,788 Speaker 4: I don't know. The South definitely not. 560 00:22:30,908 --> 00:22:32,948 Speaker 1: I feel like the whole division is rebuilding, although the 561 00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:34,908 Speaker 1: Saints are kind of interesting. And then the West is 562 00:22:34,908 --> 00:22:38,788 Speaker 1: always fascinating. You know, the Stafford's back, the Niners quarterback thing. 563 00:22:39,428 --> 00:22:40,628 Speaker 4: I just can't get there. 564 00:22:40,628 --> 00:22:42,588 Speaker 1: So I think the answer is yes, I like the 565 00:22:42,588 --> 00:22:44,548 Speaker 1: Eagles as much as everybody else does. And then we're 566 00:22:44,628 --> 00:22:47,428 Speaker 1: kind of hyping the Eagles all month. I think the 567 00:22:47,428 --> 00:22:48,788 Speaker 1: Cowboys is gonna be really good next year. 568 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:49,108 Speaker 4: I do. 569 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:51,628 Speaker 1: I get accused of being a Cowboys hater, but that's 570 00:22:51,628 --> 00:22:53,548 Speaker 1: not true. I think the Cowboys are going to be 571 00:22:53,588 --> 00:22:55,828 Speaker 1: really good. They won a playoff game last year. There's 572 00:22:55,868 --> 00:22:58,388 Speaker 1: a huge deal. It doesn't happen much in Dallas. They 573 00:22:58,428 --> 00:23:01,428 Speaker 1: did Philadelphia. It was one dumb penalty and winning the 574 00:23:01,428 --> 00:23:03,468 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I have two of those teams. The second 575 00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:05,188 Speaker 1: year in Dable, I think if you just build the 576 00:23:05,188 --> 00:23:07,748 Speaker 1: case for the division, I think it's stronger than any 577 00:23:07,788 --> 00:23:12,628 Speaker 1: other division. The North south West very interesting. The East 578 00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,388 Speaker 1: is just like it's just so robust. Am I seeing 579 00:23:14,388 --> 00:23:14,708 Speaker 1: this wrong? 580 00:23:14,748 --> 00:23:15,588 Speaker 4: Now? Well? 581 00:23:15,828 --> 00:23:17,668 Speaker 5: I mean the Eagles kind of sort of got better 582 00:23:17,708 --> 00:23:18,748 Speaker 5: in their strengths. 583 00:23:19,148 --> 00:23:20,508 Speaker 4: I know it's awesome, and. 584 00:23:20,508 --> 00:23:22,988 Speaker 5: Jalen hurts, you expect he's only going to continue to ascend. 585 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:26,348 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones he got that contract extension, and the message 586 00:23:26,348 --> 00:23:28,348 Speaker 5: from the Giants as he got that contract extension is 587 00:23:28,388 --> 00:23:30,228 Speaker 5: we're paying you for what's to come, like you're going 588 00:23:30,308 --> 00:23:31,228 Speaker 5: to get even better. 589 00:23:31,508 --> 00:23:34,108 Speaker 4: And they kind of seem like they just managed the season. 590 00:23:33,828 --> 00:23:36,948 Speaker 5: Last year with him, Whereas now you get another year 591 00:23:36,948 --> 00:23:39,308 Speaker 5: in that system, You get another year to work with 592 00:23:40,068 --> 00:23:43,628 Speaker 5: Brian Dable, you get another year to work with Shay Tierney, 593 00:23:43,708 --> 00:23:47,468 Speaker 5: your quarterbacks coach, and Mike Cafur your offensive coordinator. So 594 00:23:47,508 --> 00:23:49,668 Speaker 5: things are only going to ascend with the weapons around 595 00:23:49,708 --> 00:23:52,188 Speaker 5: you getting better. Right, And then I agree with you. 596 00:23:52,228 --> 00:23:54,548 Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys are still legitimate threatning to go. 597 00:23:54,628 --> 00:23:56,428 Speaker 5: What I do is I look around. I'm saying, Okay, 598 00:23:56,508 --> 00:23:58,988 Speaker 5: what other division am I looking at? Really that's going 599 00:23:59,028 --> 00:24:00,948 Speaker 5: to step up? And really I see a bunch of 600 00:24:01,308 --> 00:24:03,908 Speaker 5: divisions with question marks and steps steps back. Now, look, 601 00:24:03,948 --> 00:24:06,548 Speaker 5: I I like the Lions, right, I still think the 602 00:24:06,588 --> 00:24:09,628 Speaker 5: Lions are on the ascent. I like potentially what is 603 00:24:09,668 --> 00:24:11,748 Speaker 5: happening out there in the West with the forty nine ers. 604 00:24:11,788 --> 00:24:14,348 Speaker 5: But I look at who are the favorites in these divisions? 605 00:24:14,468 --> 00:24:15,388 Speaker 4: Last pops for you? 606 00:24:15,508 --> 00:24:15,668 Speaker 2: Right? 607 00:24:15,748 --> 00:24:16,068 Speaker 4: Okay? 608 00:24:16,148 --> 00:24:18,708 Speaker 5: The Green Bay Packers were the favorite in the NFC 609 00:24:18,748 --> 00:24:19,388 Speaker 5: North last year. 610 00:24:19,508 --> 00:24:20,988 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is gone. 611 00:24:21,068 --> 00:24:24,308 Speaker 5: Okay, The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were the favorite in the 612 00:24:24,388 --> 00:24:25,548 Speaker 5: NFC South last year. 613 00:24:25,828 --> 00:24:27,188 Speaker 4: Tom Brady is gone. 614 00:24:27,468 --> 00:24:29,868 Speaker 5: Maybe a year or too late, but whatever, regardless, And 615 00:24:30,348 --> 00:24:33,708 Speaker 5: even the Niners, who I just mentioned Jimmy g is gone, 616 00:24:34,428 --> 00:24:38,748 Speaker 5: Rock Party is injured. Right, So as a whole, you're 617 00:24:38,788 --> 00:24:41,108 Speaker 5: only as good as the strength of the top team. 618 00:24:40,948 --> 00:24:43,588 Speaker 4: In your division. And those those are quarterbacks we're talking. 619 00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:44,388 Speaker 4: Can I say I. 620 00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:46,428 Speaker 1: Saw this fun fact? Just say it blew my mind. 621 00:24:46,708 --> 00:24:50,068 Speaker 1: Now that Rogers has left the Packers, who is the 622 00:24:50,268 --> 00:24:54,148 Speaker 1: longest tenured quarterback in the NFC, meaning that same team 623 00:24:54,508 --> 00:24:55,748 Speaker 1: with the same player. 624 00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:58,668 Speaker 4: Who is the longest Kirk Cousins. It's not Kirk Cousins. 625 00:24:58,708 --> 00:24:59,548 Speaker 4: It blew my mind. 626 00:25:00,468 --> 00:25:03,188 Speaker 1: It's dak Oh eight years with the Cowboys is the 627 00:25:03,228 --> 00:25:05,148 Speaker 1: longest tenured in the end conference. 628 00:25:05,308 --> 00:25:06,108 Speaker 4: Eight years. 629 00:25:06,388 --> 00:25:08,148 Speaker 1: So I kind of picking up what you're putting out. 630 00:25:08,228 --> 00:25:10,108 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it was true. It is, though everybody 631 00:25:10,148 --> 00:25:11,188 Speaker 1: else has been in transition. 632 00:25:11,388 --> 00:25:11,548 Speaker 6: Yeah. 633 00:25:11,628 --> 00:25:15,668 Speaker 7: Yeah. If we're looking at overall conferences, I mean overall divisions, yes, 634 00:25:15,708 --> 00:25:17,988 Speaker 7: the NFC East is the team, and I think a 635 00:25:17,988 --> 00:25:20,388 Speaker 7: lot of that is because of the Philadelphia Eagles. I'm 636 00:25:20,428 --> 00:25:22,628 Speaker 7: not gonna sit there and say, all right, the role 637 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:25,188 Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl goes through the Dallas Cowboys, although 638 00:25:25,188 --> 00:25:27,788 Speaker 7: they've made improvements. I'm not gonna say it goes through 639 00:25:27,828 --> 00:25:30,668 Speaker 7: the New York Giants. The Eagles are the team in 640 00:25:30,748 --> 00:25:33,548 Speaker 7: the NFC East. But as you guys said, you're starting 641 00:25:33,548 --> 00:25:36,548 Speaker 7: to look at other conferences, other divisions. I'm looking at 642 00:25:36,588 --> 00:25:39,428 Speaker 7: other teams, and I think a team like the Detroit Lions, 643 00:25:39,468 --> 00:25:42,468 Speaker 7: like the Seattle Seahawks, made a lot of improved. 644 00:25:42,628 --> 00:25:44,108 Speaker 4: We always said it last season. 645 00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:46,628 Speaker 7: Towards the end, the Detroit Lions might have been one 646 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:49,268 Speaker 7: of the best teams in the NFL. They just got 647 00:25:49,308 --> 00:25:52,148 Speaker 7: hot too late and ran out of time. And in Seattle, 648 00:25:52,228 --> 00:25:54,308 Speaker 7: the run that they had with Geno and everything that 649 00:25:54,348 --> 00:25:56,468 Speaker 7: they did, and you look at them through the draft, 650 00:25:56,468 --> 00:25:58,268 Speaker 7: I feel like they got better as well. So I 651 00:25:58,308 --> 00:26:00,588 Speaker 7: think there are some teams that are going to challenge. 652 00:26:00,588 --> 00:26:03,148 Speaker 7: You mentioned the forty nine ers. Even with everything they 653 00:26:03,188 --> 00:26:06,068 Speaker 7: went through last year with the quarterback position, they still 654 00:26:06,108 --> 00:26:09,548 Speaker 7: were right there in the NFC Championship game. So Brock 655 00:26:09,588 --> 00:26:11,908 Speaker 7: Party has an opportunity to get healthy. We got it. 656 00:26:11,908 --> 00:26:14,188 Speaker 7: We don't know what trade lance is, but the fact 657 00:26:14,228 --> 00:26:17,148 Speaker 7: that Rock Party was thrown in there, Jimmy Garoppolo came 658 00:26:17,148 --> 00:26:20,068 Speaker 7: back without doing anything the entire training camp and was 659 00:26:20,068 --> 00:26:22,388 Speaker 7: still able to go out there and produce. I still 660 00:26:22,388 --> 00:26:23,988 Speaker 7: have to believe the forty nine ers are going to 661 00:26:24,108 --> 00:26:26,388 Speaker 7: challenge as well. So I do think a lot of 662 00:26:26,428 --> 00:26:29,268 Speaker 7: what happens in the NFC is going to go through Philadelphia. 663 00:26:29,348 --> 00:26:30,988 Speaker 4: I do not think it's the entire. 664 00:26:30,788 --> 00:26:33,868 Speaker 7: Division that it has to go through, although that division 665 00:26:33,948 --> 00:26:34,908 Speaker 7: is the best in the NFC. 666 00:26:35,108 --> 00:26:36,908 Speaker 3: I couldn't get there either on just the East. 667 00:26:37,028 --> 00:26:38,828 Speaker 2: If yes, if you wanted me to pick a team, 668 00:26:38,948 --> 00:26:42,428 Speaker 2: most likely I would pick one from that division today, 669 00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:45,628 Speaker 2: but looking back at preseason favorites from like yesteryear is 670 00:26:45,788 --> 00:26:48,268 Speaker 2: one of my least favorite things to do in the 671 00:26:48,388 --> 00:26:51,268 Speaker 2: In the I hate like when the NCAA tournament ends like, oh, 672 00:26:51,468 --> 00:26:53,828 Speaker 2: number one team, it's March relax. 673 00:26:54,828 --> 00:26:55,748 Speaker 3: I can't get a board with that. 674 00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:58,388 Speaker 2: I'm more of a quality over quantity person as well 675 00:26:58,428 --> 00:27:00,508 Speaker 2: when it comes to trying to assess the division, and 676 00:27:00,548 --> 00:27:03,148 Speaker 2: I still land on the NFC West after watching how 677 00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:05,828 Speaker 2: it ended last year because really, but in the playoffs specifically, 678 00:27:05,988 --> 00:27:08,828 Speaker 2: the NFC West kind of cannibalized itself because the Seahawks 679 00:27:08,868 --> 00:27:10,428 Speaker 2: had to play the forty nine Ers. If they had 680 00:27:10,428 --> 00:27:11,908 Speaker 2: had to play somebody else, I think they would have 681 00:27:11,908 --> 00:27:14,668 Speaker 2: beat them. Forty nine Ers took out the Cowboys and 682 00:27:14,708 --> 00:27:15,668 Speaker 2: then the Giants again. 683 00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:16,428 Speaker 3: The East, they. 684 00:27:16,308 --> 00:27:18,708 Speaker 2: Took care of each other in Philadelphia, so I still 685 00:27:18,748 --> 00:27:20,948 Speaker 2: think I do think it's the West. I think that 686 00:27:21,428 --> 00:27:23,868 Speaker 2: wonky NFC Championship game between the forty nine Ers and 687 00:27:23,908 --> 00:27:26,388 Speaker 2: the Eagles, which all of us wish could be replayed 688 00:27:26,948 --> 00:27:29,748 Speaker 2: with the third series where the quarterback got taken out 689 00:27:30,588 --> 00:27:32,508 Speaker 2: was a race from all of our memories. But I 690 00:27:32,588 --> 00:27:35,028 Speaker 2: really cannot get on board with the entirety of the division, 691 00:27:35,268 --> 00:27:37,628 Speaker 2: because the West is a shiny object to me that 692 00:27:37,708 --> 00:27:38,548 Speaker 2: keeps distracting me. 693 00:27:38,788 --> 00:27:40,308 Speaker 1: Well, I think the part of the hype of Philly 694 00:27:40,428 --> 00:27:42,828 Speaker 1: is that you get all these draft players and you say, oh, 695 00:27:42,868 --> 00:27:43,988 Speaker 1: it's on paper, it's on paper. 696 00:27:44,028 --> 00:27:46,668 Speaker 4: It's not on paper, it's already running it back. 697 00:27:46,668 --> 00:27:49,348 Speaker 1: This additional my take is that if the Eagles had shown 698 00:27:49,388 --> 00:27:51,628 Speaker 1: up to the draft and literally not drafted a single player, 699 00:27:51,748 --> 00:27:54,348 Speaker 1: just abstained every single I still think they're the NFC favorites, 700 00:27:54,388 --> 00:27:57,388 Speaker 1: not East, the favorites in the entire conference. And yet 701 00:27:57,388 --> 00:28:00,748 Speaker 1: what they did is they drafted monsters. Anyway, So I 702 00:28:00,828 --> 00:28:02,468 Speaker 1: like Simpster as much as the next guy. But when 703 00:28:02,468 --> 00:28:04,908 Speaker 1: I closed my eyes and picture San Francisco being in 704 00:28:04,948 --> 00:28:06,428 Speaker 1: the NFC title game, I still don't even know who 705 00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:06,988 Speaker 1: the quarterback is. 706 00:28:07,028 --> 00:28:07,548 Speaker 4: So it's hard. 707 00:28:07,588 --> 00:28:09,828 Speaker 2: Okay, here's a fun exercise. If we go, if we 708 00:28:09,868 --> 00:28:11,988 Speaker 2: go forty nine Ers Eagles at the top of those 709 00:28:12,028 --> 00:28:16,308 Speaker 2: respective divisions, Are the Seahawks better than the second best 710 00:28:16,308 --> 00:28:17,468 Speaker 2: team in the NFC East? 711 00:28:17,548 --> 00:28:19,348 Speaker 3: Who is the second best team in the NFC. 712 00:28:19,148 --> 00:28:20,708 Speaker 4: East gotta be the Cowboys Dallas? 713 00:28:21,228 --> 00:28:22,228 Speaker 3: And are they better than them? 714 00:28:22,468 --> 00:28:24,548 Speaker 1: The Dallas and the Giants are both really good. Like, 715 00:28:24,588 --> 00:28:26,708 Speaker 1: that's the only team we don't talk about is the 716 00:28:26,708 --> 00:28:28,428 Speaker 1: Commanders and then the mystery team. But I think all 717 00:28:28,468 --> 00:28:30,668 Speaker 1: three of those teams are playoff teams. You know, they 718 00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:32,668 Speaker 1: look really good one playoff games. 719 00:28:32,748 --> 00:28:34,668 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a tough thing in the West because we 720 00:28:34,708 --> 00:28:36,948 Speaker 7: don't really know what the Rams are going to be. 721 00:28:37,028 --> 00:28:39,668 Speaker 7: Like you said, Stafford, if he's back healthy, could they 722 00:28:39,708 --> 00:28:41,908 Speaker 7: get back to where they were before the Rams kind 723 00:28:41,908 --> 00:28:44,668 Speaker 7: of fell from grace last year. Arizona's kind of in 724 00:28:44,668 --> 00:28:46,388 Speaker 7: a rebuild most so that's a tough thing if you 725 00:28:46,428 --> 00:28:49,708 Speaker 7: compare the entire division. The fact that you just said 726 00:28:49,748 --> 00:28:52,628 Speaker 7: the Cowboys and the Giants are really good is what's tough. 727 00:28:52,668 --> 00:28:54,428 Speaker 7: I think Seattle has a chance to be really good. 728 00:28:54,828 --> 00:28:57,588 Speaker 1: Rams and Cardinals is just like I think what's fascinating 729 00:28:57,628 --> 00:29:00,348 Speaker 1: is we don't say the V word. We don't say 730 00:29:00,388 --> 00:29:02,708 Speaker 1: the Vikings. They won a lot of games last year, 731 00:29:02,788 --> 00:29:05,548 Speaker 1: a ton of games. They add more talent, and we're 732 00:29:05,588 --> 00:29:07,588 Speaker 1: still like, we gotta kind of see more that the 733 00:29:07,588 --> 00:29:10,148 Speaker 1: play game was a very underwhelming, so wonderful. 734 00:29:10,188 --> 00:29:13,028 Speaker 2: I like Jami, I do have lots of thoughts and 735 00:29:13,068 --> 00:29:15,188 Speaker 2: I've shared them before about what the Vikings can and 736 00:29:15,228 --> 00:29:17,708 Speaker 2: cannot accomplish in January, and until you do it, I 737 00:29:17,708 --> 00:29:20,228 Speaker 2: think we are still left with that same kind of 738 00:29:20,308 --> 00:29:23,748 Speaker 2: like h question mark, because even even for an unknown 739 00:29:23,788 --> 00:29:26,268 Speaker 2: Packers quarterback, you still kind of look at the Vikings 740 00:29:26,268 --> 00:29:28,748 Speaker 2: and you're like, show me something, show me something beyond 741 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:31,548 Speaker 2: fourteen ridiculous wins that impress you so much in the 742 00:29:31,548 --> 00:29:32,268 Speaker 2: regular season. 743 00:29:32,588 --> 00:29:33,388 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what? 744 00:29:33,628 --> 00:29:35,348 Speaker 1: And the Bears might be nice too, Like the Bears 745 00:29:35,588 --> 00:29:37,988 Speaker 1: totally changed things around, Like then the North will be cool. 746 00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:38,268 Speaker 4: Yep. 747 00:29:38,308 --> 00:29:38,828 Speaker 3: Absolutely