WEBVTT - S3E2: Ready, Willing, and Mabel

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, it's your host ed helms.

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, on with the chaos. This is Snaffoo Season

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<v Speaker 1>three Formula six previously on Snaffoo. In the nineteen twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>New York City was facing a record number of unsolved murders.

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<v Speaker 3>There are death certificates that literally say, could be diabetes

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<v Speaker 3>or possibly an auto accident.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just going seriously until unlikely. Duo Charles Norris and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Getler teamed up to investigate.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like a buddy cop movie of like these two

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<v Speaker 3>scientists in the trenches together.

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<v Speaker 1>And while America braced itself for the new normal of prohibition.

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia becomes the thirteenth state to ratify the Eighteenth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>Norris and Getler issued a warning to the public as

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies kept stacking up at Bellevue Hospital. The winter

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen oh one in Topeka, Kansas was a cold one.

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<v Speaker 1>Temperatures hovered in the single digits. I imagine the wind

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<v Speaker 1>howling down the streets. Too much snow for a car,

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<v Speaker 1>although someone might bust out a horse drawn slay or two.

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<v Speaker 1>But inside one saloon, the Senate Bar, the regulars got cozy.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a favorite haunt for elected officials, situated not

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<v Speaker 1>far from the state capitol, equipped with enough booze for

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<v Speaker 1>the local elite to forget all about the cold weather,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the fact that many of them had recently

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<v Speaker 1>voted to ban the sale of alcohol statewide. At least

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it was on most nights, but one freezing

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<v Speaker 1>called dawn. Before the place opened up, a silhouette fills

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<v Speaker 1>the doorway. It's a woman six feet tall and easily

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<v Speaker 1>able to stand eye to eye with any corn fed

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<v Speaker 1>man in Topeka. She wears a black dress and black

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<v Speaker 1>ribbons in her hair, like she's attending a funeral, and

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<v Speaker 1>she peers into the darkened saloon her little oval shaped glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's highly unusual for any woman to enter a saloon

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<v Speaker 1>in this day and age, let alone at five point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the morning. But this is a highly unusual woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Carrie Nation. There's one employee inside the

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<v Speaker 1>closed bar as Carrie forces the door open. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know her, by the look of righteous fury

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<v Speaker 1>in her eyes, he can probably guess her intentions from

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<v Speaker 1>the hatchet she's wielding in her hand. Carrie Nation didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come here to crack open a cold one with the boys,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least not the way you'd think. This hatchet

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<v Speaker 1>is her signature accessory, and before the barman can stop her,

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<v Speaker 1>she starts putting it to use. Carrie jumps behind the

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<v Speaker 1>bar and smashes the liquor bottles. Carrie, no, she smashes

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<v Speaker 1>the glasses. She smashes the faucets, the cash register, the

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<v Speaker 1>slot machine.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, my peavies.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, at least I'm still looking down.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the mirror on the wall.

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<v Speaker 6>My reflection.

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<v Speaker 1>But all of this is prelude, because finally Carrie Nation

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<v Speaker 1>lays into her number one target, the kegs.

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<v Speaker 7>It was beer o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>She drives her hatchet into the beer kegs, flooding the

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<v Speaker 1>bar floor with the devil's elixir. By the time the

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<v Speaker 1>sheriff arrives, Carrie is soaked to the bone. Her behavior

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<v Speaker 1>was extreme, but Carrie Nation was nothing if not a zealot.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen oh one, she had become the axe wielding

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<v Speaker 1>face of the Temperance movement. The Senate Bar is just

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<v Speaker 1>the latest stop in her crusade to destroy every last

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<v Speaker 1>keg in America, and in that crusade, Carrie is far

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<v Speaker 1>from alone. Before she started smashing stuff up, Carrie was

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<v Speaker 1>a devout Christian and felt compelled by God to do

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<v Speaker 1>things like making clothes for the poor or opening a

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<v Speaker 1>shelter for the families of violent alcoholics. Her first husband

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<v Speaker 1>had been a severe alcoholic himself, dying of drink in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen sixty nine and leaving Carrie with their infant daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Influenced by her own experience and that of others around her,

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<v Speaker 1>Carrie would later say that she felt personally called by

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<v Speaker 1>God to rid the country of alcohol. Her devoted service

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<v Speaker 1>to the poor earned her the nickname Mother Nation. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, her manic attacks on saloons earned her

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname hatchet Granny. Carrie referred to herself as.

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<v Speaker 5>A bull dog running along at the feet of Jesus,

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<v Speaker 5>miking it way.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Call her a bulldog, Call her hatchet Granny, call her

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you like. Carrie Nation was an impassioned anti alcohol activist.

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<v Speaker 1>She and people like her were determined to remake America

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<v Speaker 1>by any means necessary. I'm at Helms and this is Snaffo,

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<v Speaker 1>a show about history's greatest screw ups. This is season three,

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Formula six. How prohibitions wore on alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>went so off the rails the government wound up poisoning

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<v Speaker 1>its own people. Today we're taking a look at the

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<v Speaker 1>people responsible for prohibition. See, before the government set about

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<v Speaker 1>watching the enforcement of dry laws, lone wolves like Carrie

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<v Speaker 1>Nation had already been taking matters into their own hands

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<v Speaker 1>for decades.

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<v Speaker 8>Even in the years leading up to Prohibition. I think

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<v Speaker 8>half the states were already going dry. It was already starting.

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<v Speaker 8>It was this ground swell.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Terence Winter, legendary TV writer and creator of Boardwalk Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>His show like Ours, takes place in the twenties, but

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<v Speaker 1>the full story of Prohibition begins a lot earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>I got where it came from. Alcoholism was devastating. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>if you had the cliche as the data got paid

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<v Speaker 8>on Friday and then you didn't see him and spent

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<v Speaker 8>all his money at the bar, and your family went

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<v Speaker 8>destined to This is been days before social programs or

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<v Speaker 8>even before AA was a thing.

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<v Speaker 9>It was a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Terry made himself an expert on this stuff for Boardwalk Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>digging into the research.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, at the time we created National Prohibition, sixty

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<v Speaker 10>five percent of America already lived in a dry town.

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<v Speaker 10>Sixty five percent of Americans already couldn't buy liquor in town.

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<v Speaker 1>That's historian Paul Thompson anti alcohol sentiment, also called temperance,

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<v Speaker 1>was a social movement. It eventually led to prohibition, the

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<v Speaker 1>outright banning of alcohol, but it didn't start out that way.

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<v Speaker 10>What is called the temperance movement lasted over a century.

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<v Speaker 10>It started by meaning simply, individuals should avoid drunkenness, and

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<v Speaker 10>so it was temperate use of alcoholic beverages, with a

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<v Speaker 10>particular focus on distilled beverages, so you're whiskey and your

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<v Speaker 10>gins and your brandies.

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<v Speaker 1>Early temperance supporters urged people to abstain from drink, starting

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<v Speaker 1>with liquor, but eventually also beer and wine. For them,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a personal choice you could make to improve

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<v Speaker 1>both yourself and society. Here's Tom Pegram, author of Battling

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<v Speaker 1>demon Rum the Struggle for a Dry America.

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<v Speaker 11>Temperance is a self control movement not tied to legal restrictions.

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<v Speaker 1>Self control was all the rage in the early eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>and not just when it came to booze. Case in point,

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<v Speaker 1>New England Presbyterian minister Sylvester Graham.

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<v Speaker 11>Sylvester Graham was a diet and health reformer in the

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<v Speaker 11>early nineteenth centuries.

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<v Speaker 12>Also a temperance guy so Lester.

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<v Speaker 11>Graham believed that meat was sexually stimulating, and in fact

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<v Speaker 11>he led an attack I think.

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<v Speaker 12>In somewhere in Massachusetts on Butcher's.

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<v Speaker 1>Graham loved temperance in all its forms, you name it,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want you to enjoy it. He encouraged a

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<v Speaker 1>diet of vegetables and whole wheat in order to best

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<v Speaker 1>suppress those bodily urges. Today, he's most famous for his

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<v Speaker 1>cracker recipe. Yep, that's right, Graham. Crackers were designed to

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<v Speaker 1>stop people from masturbating. But it wasn't all about self denial.

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<v Speaker 1>Temperance advocates tended to believe in other types of social change,

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<v Speaker 1>things which, even if they sound like basic human rights today,

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<v Speaker 1>were actually quite radical in eighteen hundreds of America.

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<v Speaker 10>Guess what else they wanted. The people that wanted a

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<v Speaker 10>prohibition party wanted to give women the right to vote.

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<v Speaker 10>This is eighteen sixty nine, and that should tell you

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<v Speaker 10>how radical these people were. Because women didn't get the

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<v Speaker 10>right to vote nineteen nineteen, so these people are decades

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<v Speaker 10>ahead of the nation on women. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of temperance people that were not abolitionists, but every abolitionist

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<v Speaker 10>was a teetotal.

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<v Speaker 1>Temperance could easily go hand in hand with blatant racism.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, put a pin in that for later. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen hundreds, the likes of Frederick Douglass and

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<v Speaker 1>sojourn her Truth were prominent figures in the temperance movement.

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<v Speaker 1>The people fighting hardest for causes like racial equality and

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<v Speaker 1>women's rights were often supporters of temperance as well.

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<v Speaker 10>It's very hard for people in the late twentieth and

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<v Speaker 10>twenty first century to understand that temperance and prohibition advocates

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<v Speaker 10>were progressives.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's author Dan Okrant on what it meant to be

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<v Speaker 1>a progressive back in the eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 9>You believe in the betterment of society through government action

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<v Speaker 9>and an expertise and turning things over to the people

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<v Speaker 9>who really knew what they were doing. It was kind

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<v Speaker 9>of an anti democratic impulse. It's not related really to

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<v Speaker 9>the progressivism that we know today.

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<v Speaker 1>But the dries, as the temperance advocates came to be known,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't arise in a vacuum. In fact, Temperance started to

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<v Speaker 1>gain steam at precisely the same time as immigrants from

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<v Speaker 1>Europe streamed into American cities. In record numbers, packed into

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<v Speaker 1>unsafe tenement buildings. Compelled to work exhausting and often dangerous jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>these newcomers were in desperate need of a place to

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<v Speaker 1>unwind and throw back a few beers.

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<v Speaker 11>There were public houses, there were taverns, and colonial and

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<v Speaker 11>Revolutionary America in the early part of the nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 11>in rural areas, often servingo's hotels as well. But the

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<v Speaker 11>saloon was tied to urbanization and also tied to beer

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<v Speaker 11>culture and the Germans, you know, as the Germans came in,

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<v Speaker 11>they brought in lager beer. Americans had English type ales,

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<v Speaker 11>but the lager beer revolution really switched American drinking practices.

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<v Speaker 6>Who wanted to improve society that they had their ideas

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<v Speaker 6>of how to improve it, tended to associate the evils

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<v Speaker 6>of urbanization, the evils of industrialization, with immigration, because all

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<v Speaker 6>of those things come together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Annie polland the president of the Tenement Museum. In

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of New York City's Lower East Side.

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<v Speaker 6>There were five hundred and twenty six lagger beer saloons

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<v Speaker 6>in the neighborhood then known as kleindoutsch Lund. Now we

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<v Speaker 6>think of the Lower east Side and the East Village

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<v Speaker 6>and so saloons were everywhere, and saloons were the living

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<v Speaker 6>rooms of the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Take us inside, Annie.

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<v Speaker 6>You would take a few steps down from the street

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<v Speaker 6>into a lower level opening an all wooden door. It

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<v Speaker 6>would probably be lit very well, with beautiful lanterns and lamps,

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<v Speaker 6>wooden tables filled with different foods, pretzels, hard biled eggs, cheeses,

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<v Speaker 6>sauer kraut, different kinds of meat. Do you'd have musicians

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<v Speaker 6>there because it was a place for musicians together.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to yummytown. That almost makes all the turn of

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<v Speaker 1>the century typhoid and dysentery worth it.

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<v Speaker 6>It would be noisy, lots of the sounds of people

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<v Speaker 6>singing or talking. Maybe there'd be newspapers out, maybe there'd

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<v Speaker 6>be different games out. You'd probably see children coming downstairs

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<v Speaker 6>with a growler to fill to bring back upstairs to

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<v Speaker 6>the family.

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<v Speaker 1>Our man Alexander Gettler, chief toxicologist at Bellevue Hospital, and

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<v Speaker 1>himself an immigrant, would have been quite familiar with places

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<v Speaker 1>like this. His family actually brewed their own beer in

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<v Speaker 1>their bathroom, and their social lives would have been intimately

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<v Speaker 1>tied to the saloons around them.

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<v Speaker 6>Of Course, the smell of beer but also the smell

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<v Speaker 6>of cooking and the smell of tobacco. You might also

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<v Speaker 6>have people conducting business in a saloon. One of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that the Germans and the Germans speaking immigrants did

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<v Speaker 6>a lot was form associations, mutual aid associations, political associations,

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<v Speaker 6>associations for singing, for dancing, for gymnastics, like you name it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hitler was more workaholic than an alcoholic, and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>record of him joining any associations for singing, dancing, or gymnastics.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was his world. People like Getler worked their

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<v Speaker 1>asses off to make a life for themselves and their

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<v Speaker 1>families in the US, but as they did, they faced

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<v Speaker 1>discrimination from the blue blooded Protestants of this country. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>people quite similar to Getler's partner Charles Norris, who were

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<v Speaker 1>fed up with immigrants, their foreign cultures, and their pernicious booze.

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<v Speaker 10>The native born white middle class by late eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 10>that's already bought into abstinence sees these what they called

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<v Speaker 10>hordes state of Jews and Catholics coming in, who are

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<v Speaker 10>also a lot of times halfway literate in English, and

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<v Speaker 10>living conditions aren't great. And somebody called it the working

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<v Speaker 10>man's palace, and these places are elaborate. By the turn

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<v Speaker 10>of the century, saloons.

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<v Speaker 1>Became the primary targets for the carry nations of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>as did the immigrants who frequented them. Even though prohibition

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<v Speaker 1>was not technically an anti immigrant policy.

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<v Speaker 11>Prohibition developed as a movement to change laws to prevent

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<v Speaker 11>access to alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>As its proponents began trying to force it on the country,

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<v Speaker 1>the battle lines became clear. On the dry side was

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<v Speaker 1>the Temperance movement, zealous and all too willing to throw

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<v Speaker 1>in their lot with outright racists. On the other side

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of German, Italian, Irish and Jewish immigrants.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's historian David Goldberg Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Prohibition played a huge role in what you might call

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<v Speaker 2>the culture the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>We can only get in touch with David over the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it kind of sounds like he's calling.

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<v Speaker 1>From the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Prohibition had been favored by those who were Protestants, and

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<v Speaker 2>the major organization that had pushed the Prohibition Amendment, the

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Saloon League, was tied to the Protestant churches, and

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<v Speaker 2>prohibitions had been motivated by a great deal of anti

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<v Speaker 2>immigrant sentiment because many of those who were members of

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<v Speaker 2>this organization, the Anti Saloon League, were specially hostile the immigrants,

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<v Speaker 2>specially immigrants from Catholic backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 1>David's not exaggerating in the slightest. Before long, Catholics across

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<v Speaker 1>America were being smeared as not only drunkards, but traders

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Alexander Getler was born Jewish but married an

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<v Speaker 1>Irish Catholic girl and then converted. That means he left

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<v Speaker 1>one faith targeted by the dry movement, only to join another.

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<v Speaker 1>The Anti Saloon League's efforts were one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>instances of single issue lobbying to dramatically influence American politics.

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<v Speaker 10>They drafted model legislation and said, you support what we do,

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<v Speaker 10>here's a sample law. Maybe you could write a law

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<v Speaker 10>like this that still goes on With interest groups. They

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<v Speaker 10>created me bill lists of people they knew who would

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<v Speaker 10>vote for dry candidates. People do that today, Every interest

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<v Speaker 10>group does that today.

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<v Speaker 9>Your position, if you were a politician on other issues

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<v Speaker 9>was meaningless to them if you were okay on the

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<v Speaker 9>prohibition issue.

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<v Speaker 1>The Women's Christian Temperance Union and the Anti Saloon League

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<v Speaker 1>were the two main organizations carrying the torch and or

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally hatchet for prohibition. They were the definition of single

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<v Speaker 1>issue voters, and when they found a candidate willing to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for prohibition, they would go all in to get

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<v Speaker 1>their guy elected.

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<v Speaker 9>I think one of the key things that one has

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<v Speaker 9>to know about prohibition there was never any education that

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<v Speaker 9>a majority of Americans believed in it.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, when dry candidate's won, it didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean they'd won a majority of voters' hearts and minds.

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<v Speaker 1>It just meant that the WCTU had an influential group

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<v Speaker 1>of voters who could swing elections, and it worked time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again. State after state went dry.

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<v Speaker 7>The Anti Saloon League, the main lobbyist organization for temperance,

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<v Speaker 7>use this moment really to the emptyent degree.

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<v Speaker 1>That's historian Garrett Peck.

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<v Speaker 7>They stigmatize alcohol, they turn beer drinking into treason, and

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<v Speaker 7>they basically question the patriotism of every German American.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are a few actual lines from the Anti Saloon

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<v Speaker 1>League's propaganda.

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<v Speaker 4>The breweries and the saloons of the country continue to

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<v Speaker 4>waste foodstuffs, fuel.

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<v Speaker 12>And manpower to impair.

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<v Speaker 4>The efficiency of labors and the maniance factories and even

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<v Speaker 4>immunitions plants near which saloons are located. German brewers in

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<v Speaker 4>this country have rendered thousands of men inefficient and thus

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<v Speaker 4>crippling the Republic in its war on the Prussian militarism.

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<v Speaker 4>How can any loyal citizens vote for a trade that

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<v Speaker 4>is aidy a pro German alliance. Everything that is pro

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<v Speaker 4>German is anti American. Everything that is pro German.

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<v Speaker 12>Must go.

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<v Speaker 1>To me. This is starting to sound like just good

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<v Speaker 1>old fashioned prejudice and alcohol just the latest convenient issue

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<v Speaker 1>to inflame people's fears. The war unleashed a tidal wave

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<v Speaker 1>of immigrant and ethnic hatred, all dauled up in red,

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<v Speaker 1>white and blue. As one Wisconsin politician put it, we

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<v Speaker 1>have German enemies across the water.

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<v Speaker 4>We have German enemies in this country too, and worst

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<v Speaker 4>of all, our German enemies, the most treacherous, the most menacing.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps Schlitz Blats and Miller turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>Fear mongering beer boycotts are as American as hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>which incidentally got their name around this time too, because

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<v Speaker 1>Frankfurter sounded a little too German. I'm assuming sauerkrowd also

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<v Speaker 1>became liberty cabbage and German breweries became targets.

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<v Speaker 11>Caps, twits, blats, and killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch your glass.

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<v Speaker 4>The ug killer, don't eat that brat, don't drink those

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<v Speaker 4>such or don't check.

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<v Speaker 12>You out in fu Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventeen, the US entered the war. That year,

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<v Speaker 1>Congress passed the Eighteenth Amendment, which gave the government the

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<v Speaker 1>power to ban alcohol sales. All that was left was

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress to actually use its new power. Finally, after

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<v Speaker 1>almost a century of organizing, sloganeering, and hectoring, the dryes

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<v Speaker 1>got their way. Prohibition became law with the Volstead Act.

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<v Speaker 1>But that raises a very critical question. Who the hell's

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<v Speaker 1>going to enforce it? Will meet them after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>In a nondescript office building somewhere in the nation's capital,

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<v Speaker 1>a man stands over a beaker of liquid. He's white,

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged hair starting to thin, heavy circular glasses peering

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<v Speaker 1>over his experiment like the eyes of doctor tj Eckelberg.

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<v Speaker 1>And not to get all middle school English teacher on

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<v Speaker 1>you here, but just like those famous eyes from The

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<v Speaker 1>Great Gatsby, James Duran was looking down on nineteen twenties

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<v Speaker 1>America with more than a little bit of judgment. Duran

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<v Speaker 1>is a chemist and an avid supporter of the dry movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Mild mannered, methodical, a hard worker with a keen scientific mind.

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<v Speaker 1>He busies himself with government work, while his wife dedicates

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<v Speaker 1>her time to the Women's Christian Temperance Union. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll go on to author a book of non alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>cocktail recipes. There are even substitutes for baking recipes that

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<v Speaker 1>happen to involve alcohol.

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<v Speaker 4>Mince pie is delicious without brandy if made properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to nitpick here, missus Duran, but the alcohol bakes away.

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<v Speaker 1>People aren't out here getting drunk off pie. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the Duran's defense, people in nineteen twenty can find a

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<v Speaker 1>way to get drunk off just about anything. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that's precisely James Durant's problem. See James is a chemist

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bureau of Internal Revenue, the predecessor to the IRS.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're wondering why the IRS needs chemists, you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Thomas Pegram says, it's something that still happens today.

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<v Speaker 1>You see evidence of it. Anytime you walk into a

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<v Speaker 1>liquor store.

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<v Speaker 11>You go get your rum or risky, and it's got

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<v Speaker 11>that tape on it at the top that that's a

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<v Speaker 11>sign that the Federal Excise Text has been passed. So

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<v Speaker 11>there's a tradition of internal revenue regulating alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, alcohol has a lot of different uses.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to being a wonderful social lubricant, it's commonly

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<v Speaker 1>used as a solvent in industrial chemistry, a medical disinfectant,

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<v Speaker 1>and as fuel. But I bet you've never been offered

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<v Speaker 1>a medical alcohol swab as an apparitive, at least I

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<v Speaker 1>hope not. And there's a really good reason for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the same stuff. Alcohol you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>drink gets denatured. In other words, it's made unnatural by

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<v Speaker 1>adding a lot of really bad chemtmicals. These chemicals don't

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<v Speaker 1>diminish the alcohol's industrial value, but they make it really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to drink, which is the whole point you're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to drink it. All of this allows the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>to draw a chemical distinction between industrial alcohol and all

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<v Speaker 1>that other yummy stuff you're supposed to drink. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason all this matters to the IRS is because different

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<v Speaker 1>types of alcohol get taxed differently, and Uncle Sam needs

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<v Speaker 1>a way to ensure nobody skirts the tax code by

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<v Speaker 1>making drinking alcohol out of the stuff you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be using to sterilize needles. Since nineteen oh seven, James

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<v Speaker 1>duran has been proudly polluting, sorry, denaturing, industrial alcohol in

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<v Speaker 1>service of our nation's tax code. But with the passage

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<v Speaker 1>of the Volstead Act, James job suddenly becomes crucial not

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<v Speaker 1>only to tax enforcement, but to enforcement of the new

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<v Speaker 1>nationwide dry law.

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<v Speaker 12>And so you had this prohibition unit.

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<v Speaker 11>It was originally called tied to the Internal Revenue Service

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<v Speaker 11>in the Treasury Department, you know, not Justice, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>which usually enforces the laws.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, and its infinite wisdom, Congress has decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol illegal and to make the Irs enforce it. James

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<v Speaker 1>Durant's job is about to get a whole lot more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not the only one you ever see. Mister

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<v Speaker 1>Smith goes to Washington. It's an old Hollywood classic, A

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<v Speaker 1>Scout troop leader from the American West, played by a

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<v Speaker 1>yet again Jimmy Stewart. What's with this guy? Hi, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Stewart, and basically I just play every American archetype

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<v Speaker 1>under the sun. You see. Anyway, he gets hand picked

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<v Speaker 1>for a Senate seat by a bunch of fat cats.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes into Congress still brushing the Oregon trail dust

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<v Speaker 1>off his necktie. The political bosses think he's such a rube.

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<v Speaker 1>They can pull his strings and he'll be none the wiser.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they get him all wrong. Why well, they

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<v Speaker 1>think loving the founding fathers and reciting their speeches by

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<v Speaker 1>heart makes him a naive bumpkin. But that turns out

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<v Speaker 1>to be exactly what lets him see right through their

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<v Speaker 1>greedy schemes. He's got principles. God damn it. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean nag nabbitt, And that means something. In America,

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<v Speaker 1>all you people don't.

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<v Speaker 12>Know about loss causes. The only cause is worth fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>But two decades before mister Smith, another plucky Westerner arrives

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<v Speaker 1>in DC for real. Her name is Mabel Walker Willebrandt.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a rising legal star, the first woman in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles to serve as a public defender, and the parliamentarian

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<v Speaker 1>of the city's Women Lawyers Club. She made a name

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<v Speaker 1>for herself providing free counsel to sex workers, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>already proven that she can captivate a courtroom. Mabel is

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<v Speaker 1>a trail blo, a crusading attorney who never hesitates to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up for women, definitely not easy in nineteen twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>she has a well earned reputation for defying men's expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>So when President Warren G. Harding begins searching for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to lead the charge for federal prohibition, a host of

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<v Speaker 1>California lawyers and judges tell him we want Walker wille Brandt.

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<v Speaker 1>Harding offers an interview. Mabel says farewell to her parents

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<v Speaker 1>in Cali and rides the rails across the country full

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence she'll be hired as Assistant Attorney General of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. And when I think of her stepping

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<v Speaker 1>off the train with her big canvas bag and her

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<v Speaker 1>hair and tight braids over her ears, I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that mister Smith's story. I mean, Jimmy may

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<v Speaker 1>not have had the braids. But as Mabel catches a

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<v Speaker 1>trolley through the busy streets of DC, she's also riding

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<v Speaker 1>into a world she doesn't know. At just thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel has a resume that would make more most lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington green with envy, But enforcing prohibition remains an

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<v Speaker 1>unenviable and largely untested task, because by nineteen twenty, the

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<v Speaker 1>national experiment in prohibition is going pretty much exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>Getler and Norris had predicted. Enterprising Americans find all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of ways to skirt the law, from making moonshine out

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<v Speaker 1>in the boonies to smuggling in the good stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>across the Canadian border, to going full mad scientist and

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<v Speaker 1>making Franken cocktails out of industrial alcohols. If this thing's

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<v Speaker 1>going to actually last, the Feds are going to need

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<v Speaker 1>a steady hand at the helm of the brand new

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition unit.

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<v Speaker 9>She didn't particularly believe in prohibition, but she believed in

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<v Speaker 9>the law, and she believed in her assignment. And if

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<v Speaker 9>this is what you want me to do, damn it all,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So despite her reservations, Mabel aces her interview with the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. Then, with his stamp of approval, she catches

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<v Speaker 1>a cab to the White House for a face to

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<v Speaker 1>face meeting with President Warren Harding. Harding and his Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General had a long history together. They were something of

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<v Speaker 1>an old boys club, backroom deals, etc. Mabel was a

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<v Speaker 1>buy the book's West Coast lady trying to break in.

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<v Speaker 1>All that is to say that whatever her principles. She

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<v Speaker 1>needed to know how to play ball if she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>this job.

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<v Speaker 5>Give me the authority and let me have my pick

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<v Speaker 5>of three hundred men, and I'll make this country as

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<v Speaker 5>dry as is humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 1>As the story goes, President Harding told Mabel, there's only

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<v Speaker 1>one thing against you. You're too young. Mabel takes what

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<v Speaker 1>Harding gives her and sends it right back at him.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll outgrow it.

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<v Speaker 1>She knocks the interview out of the park. She gets

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<v Speaker 1>the job. It's a huge moment for Mabel and for

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Mabel Walker Willebrandt is now the highest ranking

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<v Speaker 1>woman in government. She's young and ambitious, and in all

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood she's thinking that if she plays is her cards right,

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<v Speaker 1>she could get herself a federal judge ship or even

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<v Speaker 1>become America's first female Attorney general. But the reaction in

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<v Speaker 1>the press is sadly predictable. These are actual headlines from

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

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<v Speaker 4>LA Woman to fight wetts Man's job is given to

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<v Speaker 4>missus Willibrandt by Harding, California. Woman gets federal plumb may

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<v Speaker 4>want to primp up extra extra woman swayed by logic.

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<v Speaker 4>New Assistant Attorney General is not emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>The media was already on Harding's case for handing out

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<v Speaker 1>jobs to his friends and political allies, and now they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to turn that anger on Mabel with an

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<v Speaker 1>extra layer of misogyny just for kicks. When she announces

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<v Speaker 1>to the papers that she's not giving interviews until she's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten her feet under her, one paper proclaims.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman who was not ready and willing to talk

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<v Speaker 4>or be photographed has been found.

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<v Speaker 1>Mabel probably saw this coming. There's no question she's hit

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<v Speaker 1>with snide remarks every time she steps into the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 1>But what she can't have prepared for is the resistance

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<v Speaker 1>she'll meet from her colleagues and the corruption she'll find

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<v Speaker 1>around every corner. All Right, Prohibition's the law of the land,

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<v Speaker 1>and President Harding has hired Mabel Walker Willebrandt to come

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<v Speaker 1>to DC and get to work enforcing it. Just one problem,

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<v Speaker 1>the apparatus that's supposed to enforce this law is less

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<v Speaker 1>a finely tuned machine and more like, well, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties equivalent of a shit show? I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>also a shit show for starters. There's her boss, the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 9>He was a a drunk and be corrupt. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>make it easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Dan Akrant. Then there's her staff. You'd think the

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<v Speaker 1>newly created Prohibition Unit would be designed to resist the

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<v Speaker 1>corrupting influences of the booze business. After all, most civil

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<v Speaker 1>servants at the time had to pass a series of

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<v Speaker 1>tests confirming their aptitude and integrity. But this new unit

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<v Speaker 1>was made exempt from those tests, which.

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<v Speaker 9>Is another way of saying we're going to use it

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<v Speaker 9>for political payoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Which means Mabel is essentially the meat in a corruption sandwich.

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<v Speaker 1>She's more or less the only person anywhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>chain of command who isn't interested in taking bribes to

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<v Speaker 1>look the other way. The guys enforcing this law, and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys overseeing the whole enterprise, they're all in somebody's pocket.

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<v Speaker 9>The Secretary of Treasury who was directly in charge of enforcement,

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<v Speaker 9>Andrew Mellon. He owned Old Overhoult.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Old Overholt, the bourbon. Yeah, it's bad enough for

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<v Speaker 1>any member of the cabinet to own a liquor company.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Secretary of the Treasury, Melon has a major

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<v Speaker 1>role to play in prohibition enforcement. He's supposed to work

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<v Speaker 1>closely with Mabel's office and he's James Durant's bought drunks, bribetakers,

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<v Speaker 1>liquor magnates. These are the people Mabel's supposed to work

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<v Speaker 1>hand in glove with in the fight to enforce prohibition.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the IRS gets wind of some alcohol related skull duggery,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to investigate, gather evidence, and package it all

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<v Speaker 1>up so the Assistant Attorney General, Mabel Walker Willebrandt can

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<v Speaker 1>swoop in and make the arrests. Mabel then wins the case.

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<v Speaker 1>The bootleggers get tossed in the clink, rinse, and repeat

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<v Speaker 1>until the country goes drier than an anti masturbatory cracker. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it's supposed to work, but in practice, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the people around her are either uninterested in enforcing

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<v Speaker 1>dry laws or actively breaking them.

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<v Speaker 5>There's one way it can be done, get at the

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<v Speaker 5>source of supply. I know them, and I know how

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<v Speaker 5>they could be cut off. I have no patience with

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<v Speaker 5>this policy of going after the hip pocket and speak

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<v Speaker 5>easy cases. That's like trying to dry up the Atlantic

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<v Speaker 5>Ocean with a blotter.

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<v Speaker 1>Come as a huge relief to Mabel when she finally

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<v Speaker 1>finds someone in the IRS bureaucracy who takes the law

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<v Speaker 1>as seriously as she does James Dran. She's an ambitious

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer in the Department of Justice. He's a behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes chemist in the Department of Treasury. Fate has brought

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<v Speaker 1>them together. Mabel Walker Willebrandt and James Duran will enforce

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition despite the corruption all around them. As such, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>both quickly realize enforcement is going to require some new approaches,

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<v Speaker 1>a new formula, if you will. But they're determined, they're idealistic,

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<v Speaker 1>and together these two dedicated bureaucrats are about to unleash

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<v Speaker 1>hell on American drinkers. Next time on Snafu, we meet

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<v Speaker 1>the defiant bootleggers who were already making life a nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>for the prohibition bureau.

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<v Speaker 10>He didn't give a shit who you were, where you

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<v Speaker 10>were from, what you did, or any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on up, have a drink with me. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>our pal Alexander Getler was back on the case in

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<v Speaker 1>New York and making some shocking discoveries.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless you're rich, you're drinking whatever you can get your

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<v Speaker 3>hands on. So one of the cocktails of the Bowery,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a really poor neighborhood in New York was

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<v Speaker 3>called Smoke and That was Fuel, Alcohol and Water.

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